Pope under fire for Yad Vashem speech

[conman823]

The link below is about the Pope's visit to the Holy Land:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242029498309&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Pope under fire for Yad Vashem speech

In short, the Jews expected the pope to apologize for The Holocaust and for being German.

Besides the fact that I am completely ignorant to the reasons why the Catholic Church should Apologize for the actions of some Mad Man over 50 years ago, I am also shocked that the man is suppose to be sorry........for being German.

Tell me if I wrong, but why does it seem that Jewish people are always looking for "apologizes" or playing the victim?

What would it take to make them happy once and for all?

[PapaBear]

Are you sure they aren't asking for the apology because he was a member of the Hitler Youth, and not just for being German? Not that he had any choice in the matter, but it still probably has more to do with it than "just being German".

[A.J.]

Tell me if I wrong, but why does it seem that Jewish people are always looking for "apologizes" or playing the victim?

It's a competition between them and African-Americans as to who had it worse.

[instrument]

It's a competition between them and African-Americans as to who had it worse.

i've never personally heard a jew ask for an apology

or a black mention slavery.

but i always hear white people complain about both.

f'n assholes.

[A.J.]

i've never personally heard a jew ask for an apology

or a black mention slavery.

but i always hear white people complain about both.

f'n assholes.

There was a formal apology for slavery a while back. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/29/house.slavery/index.html)

We have also apologized for...

It is not the first time lawmakers have apologized to an ethnic group for injustices.

In April, the Senate passed a resolution sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas, that apologized to Native Americans for "the many instances of violence, maltreatment and neglect."

In 1993 the Senate also passed a resolution apologizing for the "illegal overthrow" of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893.

In 1988, Congress passed and President Reagan signed an act apologizing to the 120,000 Japanese-Americans who were held in detention camps during World War II. The 60,000 detainees who were alive at the time each received $20,000 from the government.

[~Katja~]

seems they feel he should personally ask for forgiveness being that he was a member of the Hitler Youth. (even if involuntarily)

I did not see anything wrong with his speech and feel as the public figure he is and what he represents, especially in the scope if his visit... he should not have to apologize for his personal history and heritage.
He was not there as German who grew up and was part of the war, he was there as the pope representing the church and honoring and remembering they victims of the holocaust.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Interesting thread title, considering what today is the 28th anniversary of.

[Furtherman]

Ahhh the pope... you mean that guy who lives in a huge castle in his own city surrounded by gold and priceless treasures who, as a human, is infallible and has a job that isn't even mentioned in the bible but was created by man? The guy who is living as jesus would?


Meh. Who cares.

[burrben]

the old pope was better

[AKA]

the old pope was better

Damn straight.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/boboPapalSalute.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Damn straight.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/boboPapalSalute.jpg

He needs a Turkish assassin too.

[TheMojoPin]

Bobo is beloved.

You are scum.

Deal with it.

[Jujubees2]

I think part of it was the Catholic Church's lack of taking a stance condemning the Holocaust when it was happening. (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html)

Pope Pius XII's (1876-1958) actions during the Holocaust remain controversial. For much of the war, he maintained a public front of indifference and remained silent while German atrocities were committed. He refused pleas for help on the grounds of neutrality, while making statements condemning injustices in general. Privately, he sheltered a small number of Jews and spoke to a few select officials, encouraging them to help the Jews.

[A.J.]

the old pope was better

They're all old.

[Tenbatsuzen]

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