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boosterp
05-10-2009, 03:43 PM
Anyone looking to play with the RC (release candidate) of the new Windows 7 can look here (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx) for the free download. This "version" is valid for a year with the license key they give you.

I will likely post what I think of it in the coming weeks. I am installing another HD (had a spare) for this. Now I'll have a triple boot machine, oh my.

Death Metal Moe
05-10-2009, 03:48 PM
Eh, I'll wait to hear people like you talk about it here and around the net on forums.

boosterp
05-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Eh, I'll wait to hear people like you talk about it here and around the net on forums.

I did this with Vista and got a coupon to have my copy of Vista shipped the day it was released because I submitted a bug report to MS. I still have that copy and hate Vista though, it was nice that MS did that.

Death Metal Moe
05-10-2009, 04:05 PM
I did this with Vista and got a coupon to have my copy of Vista shipped the day it was released because I submitted a bug report to MS. I still have that copy and hate Vista though, it was nice that MS did that.

It's against my religion to pay for an OS.

Sorry.:devil2:

boosterp
05-10-2009, 04:12 PM
It's against my religion to pay for an OS.

Sorry.:devil2:

Shhhhhhhhh.... We can not mention that here.

styckx
05-10-2009, 04:25 PM
Been using it since beta

It's nice.

Your hard drive doesn't churn relentlessly for no reason. The indexing is top notch

New interface is great

Snappy, responsive.

It works..

ToiletCrusher
05-10-2009, 04:36 PM
me download it now to use via bootcamp me thinks.

styckx
05-10-2009, 05:37 PM
TIP!

If you are running a cracked copy of Vista, and install this on another partition to dual boot Windows 7 and Vista.

Your Vista activation will be reset and need to be re-cracked..

LordJezo
05-11-2009, 03:21 PM
I put a fresh install of 7 RC 64 bit on my laptop.

Worked flawlessly and the install was the fastest I have ever seen. So far I am really liking this OS. Everything has been working that I have put on it and it boots up and shuts down very quickly.

Anti virus by Panda works fine as does Firefox and everything else.

Death Metal Moe
05-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Wow, don't tell me Windows is actually going to fully develop an OS and put it out without the need of major fixes and service packs! That may break my fucking heart!

ScottFromGA
05-11-2009, 03:25 PM
question....what happens if you wanna go back to Vista. Perish the thought, I know....


do you just uninstall it like any other program?

styckx
05-11-2009, 03:27 PM
question....what happens if you wanna go back to Vista. Perish the thought, I know....


do you just uninstall it like any other program?

No. Dual boot.

http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista

boosterp
05-11-2009, 03:29 PM
Scott,
It depends on how you install it. You can install it where you have to choose which one (7 or Vista) you want to load up at that time or you can install it over your existing Vista install. The later is a complete format, reinstall process. The first is a lil tweaking and then normal not loose any info.

Death Metal Moe
05-11-2009, 03:30 PM
How does dual boot work? Are all programs and files you loaded under one OS available on the other OS or do I have to waste disk space and reinstall programs and files while in the other OS?

boosterp
05-11-2009, 03:35 PM
How does dual boot work? Are all programs and files you loaded under one OS available on the other OS or do I have to waste disk space and reinstall programs and files while in the other OS?

Yea, like on my computer Windows has it's own environment and files, Ubuntu has it's own space and files. Neither conflicts with the other.

ScottFromGA
05-11-2009, 03:49 PM
so in other words....leave it alone and get the new OS when it comes out.


I have no fucking clue what you guys just said.

styckx
05-11-2009, 03:50 PM
Wow, don't tell me Windows is actually going to fully develop an OS and put it out without the need of major fixes and service packs! That may break my fucking heart!

Every Windows OS starting with Windows 3.1 has had service packs(techically Windows 3.1 wasn't a service pack but a OS update to 3.11. Still a service pack by todays standards). Ubuntu has updates, and fixes for it's OS also. MAC OSX has updates and fixes for it's OS also. Hell Windows NT4, which is still used today by some companies actually got up to SP6.

Windows in general has been fine. They slip up now and then, fix a problem and learn from it.

Windows bashing is fine, if you're gonna make fun if WindowsME or the initial release of Vista. The thing is though, when XP was released, initial reviews went along the lines of "All these new visuals suck, this thing runs slow as shit and is a resource hog". They applied some fixes, people upgraded their PC's to accommodate XP. Now look, people are holding on to it like it's a prized possession. Vista.. Was claimed a resource hog, new visuals were awful, blah blah blah. People upgraded their PC's MS applied fixes accordiningly and now Vista is solid and enjoyed by many. I personally think Vista64 is one of the best OS's Microsoft has released since Windows 2000.

boosterp
05-11-2009, 04:04 PM
so in other words....leave it alone and get the new OS when it comes out.


I have no fucking clue what you guys just said.

There is a way to make your computer think that there is 2 versions of Windows that act independently of each other and you choose which one you would like to use when your computer starts up. If you know how to install Windows on a computer then you could learn to in 15 minutes safely install a separate Windows onto your computer.

Both versions of Windows would act and appear independent of each other.

styckx
05-11-2009, 04:08 PM
so in other words....leave it alone and get the new OS when it comes out.


I have no fucking clue what you guys just said.

You got it. Beta's and RC's aren't really geared towards consumers, it's more of giving software developers an early preview of what they will be working with so they can test their software and and rework it accordingly. If it indeed needs it. Some Vista software will not work on Windows 7, this gives them a chance to make sure it does when it goes gold.

Anyone else, like us, just nerds who want to poke around and see what's new and different from an end user stand point.

Take your own advice :)

boosterp
05-11-2009, 04:16 PM
You got it. Beta's and RC's aren't really geared towards consumers, it's more of giving software developers an early preview of what they will be working with so they can test their software and and rework it accordingly. If it indeed needs it. Some Vista software will not work on Windows 7, this gives them a chance to make sure it does when it goes gold.

Anyone else, like us, just nerds who want to poke around and see what's new and different from an end user stand point.

Take your own advice :)

Styckx is right. Plus, for me it is a decent way for me to determine whether I want to make the switch to 7 or not.

Vista for me was a big fuck up on MS's part but I also misjudged the product and at first thought that the RC of Vista looked good and worked well but had some difficulties with the video drivers. Myself and thousands of other RC users were complaining to MS and Nvidia hoping this would get fixed before final release. That RC period was also shorter, and although I had found a bug in IE, reported it, and got a little credit among the other 100s that submitted the same report (which they fixed in an immediate patch) I misjudged in a sense that I thought Nvidia and MS would have everything fixed.

underdog
05-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Vista.. Was claimed a resource hog, new visuals were awful, blah blah blah. People upgraded their PC's MS applied fixes accordiningly and now Vista is solid and enjoyed by many. I personally think Vista64 is one of the best OS's Microsoft has released since Windows 2000.

Really? I still hear people bitching about Vista. You can still "downgrade" new computers to XP because so many people don't want Vista.

styckx
05-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Styckx is right. Plus, for me it is a decent way for me to determine whether I want to make the switch to 7 or not.

Vista for me was a big fuck up on MS's part but I also misjudged the product and at first thought that the RC of Vista looked good and worked well but had some difficulties with the video drivers. Myself and thousands of other RC users were complaining to MS and Nvidia hoping this would get fixed before final release. That RC period was also shorter, and although I had found a bug in IE, reported it, and got a little credit among the other 100s that submitted the same report (which they fixed in an immediate patch) I misjudged in a sense that I thought Nvidia and MS would have everything fixed.

DX10 fucked up a lot of shit with Vista and ati/Nvidia requiring "DX10 Ready Cards" to run Vista's visuals correctly. They were also horrible at working with hardware developers at the time. Then some, like Creative just SUCK BIG BALLS at writing drivers. (never buying a creative product again)

The beauty of Windows 7 and DirectX 11 is that you will get the same experience on a DX9 or DX10 graphics card. There will be DX11 cards but they won't be a requirement this time to "enjoy the full Windows 7 experience". Of course if you want to experience DX11 gaming when it arrives, you will need a DX11 card.

boosterp
05-11-2009, 04:43 PM
It was not just the DX thing, the driver for Nvidia cards had to be completely rewritten to work with Vista. And, ATI's Catalyst faired only slightly better having waited less time for them to come out with a driver release but it was still after the public release of Vista.

Creative just shot themselves in the foot, hence why Asus and a few others are now taking market shares away in the sound card market. My next sound card for my other gaming PC will be Asus.

styckx
05-11-2009, 04:51 PM
My next sound card for my other gaming PC will be Asus.

Same here nigga. Sonar all the way.

Creative AMAZES me with their business model. I have a X-FI gamer. Creative didn't release working Vista drivers till the later 1/2 of last year.

Google for "X-FI vista crackle" be amazed

http://www.google.com/search?q=x-fi+vista+crackle&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

So.. You'd think since they FINALLY made this POS work right on Vista.. The Beta Windows 7 drivers, which are based off the same code as the Vista shit would work right?????

NO. I get all kinds of crackles, pops, blurps and bullshit again.

Google for "X-FI windows 7 crackle"

http://www.google.com/search?q=x-fi+windows+7+crackle&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Then they have some shit little kid rewriting their own drivers and releasing "Creative Support Packs" to make shit work. Unreal how awful that company is.

boosterp
05-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Same here nigga. Sonar all the way.

Creative AMAZES me with their business model. I have a X-FI gamer. Creative didn't release working Vista drivers till the later 1/2 of last year.



We have the same sound card.

The funny thing is I do not remember it fucking up during the RC.

styckx
05-11-2009, 05:53 PM
We have the same sound card.

The funny thing is I do not remember it fucking up during the RC.

It has to do with nforce conflicts. It's all over the creative forum

KnoxHarrington
05-12-2009, 06:33 PM
I'm having a bizarre problem with my mouse after loading the 64-bit version of the RC. I can't click on anything. The pointer moves, but the left-click is not recognized.

But here's where it gets strange: if I hit our good friend, Ctrl-Alt-Delete, and bring up the task manager, it starts fucking working. Right there.

Plus, it keeps dropping my Internet connection for whatever reason.

Christ, this is accelerating my transformation into full-on Apple snob dramatically.

biggestmexi
05-12-2009, 06:39 PM
I'm having a bizarre problem with my mouse after loading the 64-bit version of the RC. I can't click on anything. The pointer moves, but the left-click is not recognized.

But here's where it gets strange: if I hit our good friend, Ctrl-Alt-Delete, and bring up the task manager, it starts fucking working. Right there.

Plus, it keeps dropping my Internet connection for whatever reason.

Christ, this is accelerating my transformation into full-on Apple snob dramatically.

becuase of an product that still being tested.

Im really unsure here. Does mac pre-release their OS's?

LordJezo
05-13-2009, 09:37 AM
Do you even need sound cards anymore? I haven't had a dedicated one in years, my motherboard has surround sound and an optical out built right onto it.

styckx
05-13-2009, 01:38 PM
I'm having a bizarre problem with my mouse after loading the 64-bit version of the RC. I can't click on anything. The pointer moves, but the left-click is not recognized.

But here's where it gets strange: if I hit our good friend, Ctrl-Alt-Delete, and bring up the task manager, it starts fucking working. Right there.

Plus, it keeps dropping my Internet connection for whatever reason.

Christ, this is accelerating my transformation into full-on Apple snob dramatically.

Load your bios menu on boot up, set factory defaults and save. See if that fixes it

styckx
05-13-2009, 01:40 PM
becuase of an product that still being tested.

Im really unsure here. Does mac pre-release their OS's?

They did actually. It cost 29.99 for a preview of the first release of Mac OSX and you got a t-shirt too

KnoxHarrington
05-13-2009, 04:59 PM
I'm probably going to fall back to the 32 bit version of Win 7 soon, because I think I'm getting big time driver problems. I do need to try resetting the BIOS too.

boosterp
05-20-2009, 01:17 PM
Well, I installed Win 7 Monday and have been playing with it since. I have XP Pro and Ubuntu x64 also installed on this computer and Vista x64 on my laptop so I can compare it to those OSs.

-I like the fast loading clean interface better than XP and Vista but not quite as clean and quick as Ubuntu.

-Fewer reboots, even fewer than Ubuntu

-Less of a hit on performance than XP Pro, similar to Ubuntu in this category

-For a release candidate it's driver support already smokes Vista when it was released. The 3rd party groups must have worked hard with MS this time. Similar to Ubuntu, better than XP Pro

-Fewer confusing menus in comparison to Vista, UI less intrusive

Just on 3 days of tinkering with it I can recommend anyone with an extra drive or partition give it a try. This may finally be the replacement to XP Pro that I was looking for. I really like Ubuntu but for gaming it is not the primary OS for me.

I still have more exploring to do within Windows 7 so I'll post more later. I know Styckx can give a more in depth review as he has worked with it since beta.

styckx
05-20-2009, 02:18 PM
It hasn't changed a lot since beta. Lots of under the hood stuff, UI clean up etc.

I'm having some UI issues w/ it on my laptop, the taskbar and the top part of the current window will start flickering. It has something to do w/ flash embedded into some webpages etc. Sure it'll be fixed by final and might be specific to the driver it's using for my video card. It's random.

You can mess around w/ the taskbar settings and make it act just like Vista/XP for the most part, athough I'm a big fan of the new style of launching programs.

boosterp
05-20-2009, 02:48 PM
It hasn't changed a lot since beta. Lots of under the hood stuff, UI clean up etc.

I'm having some UI issues w/ it on my laptop, the taskbar and the top part of the current window will start flickering. It has something to do w/ flash embedded into some webpages etc. Sure it'll be fixed by final and might be specific to the driver it's using for my video card. It's random.

You can mess around w/ the taskbar settings and make it act just like Vista/XP for the most part, athough I'm a big fan of the new style of launching programs.

I have not seen the problem with the flashing thing and I do really like the way it launches programs. I also like how programs are displayed on the task bar and how it groups programs. I know this is built on Vista code but this feels like the rewrite that Vista should have been.

styckx
05-20-2009, 06:05 PM
I have not seen the problem with the flashing thing and I do really like the way it launches programs. I also like how programs are displayed on the task bar and how it groups programs. I know this is built on Vista code but this feels like the rewrite that Vista should have been.

The biggest improvement is the indexing actually works flawlessly this time. No more hard drive light blinking away for hours for no apparent reason.

Minor, but a improvement I like is they did away with the "sidebar" and they are now just free floating gadgets.

styckx
05-21-2009, 06:33 AM
I have not seen the problem with the flashing thing.

Just checked Windows Update @ work and Intel pushed out a new video driver for their mobile graphics card. So it seems the issue is being addressed.

I must say I'm very impressed with the hardware vendors stepping up with drivers so soon. I remember Vista at this point it was still a complete train wreck as far as getting video/sound drivers to work (among others).

ihaveabadmonkey
05-21-2009, 06:46 AM
I have been having a problem of my mouse arrow just disappearing all of a sudden and won't come back until i restart.

styckx
05-29-2009, 07:14 AM
My first real Windows 7 RC bug popped up yesterday. Also looks like it's a known random issue also.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/GettingReadyforWindows7/thread/a855d146-5c15-4d24-af7c-dab5c287c81f

Power unplugged
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/battery2.jpg

Plugged in
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/battery.jpg

boosterp
05-30-2009, 10:42 PM
I had a small issue with Trend Micro (AV suite) crashing but they pushed an update that fixed the issue so I did not have to send a report.

PapaBear
05-31-2009, 07:30 PM
I installed it last night, but it won't let me install my mobo drivers, so I can't get online yet. Any ideas? I have an Asus K8U-X

boosterp
05-31-2009, 09:06 PM
Mine updated through Windows Update without a problem. I would try that, otherwise can you connect to the net, video and sound ok?

PapaBear
05-31-2009, 09:14 PM
Mine updated through Windows Update without a problem. I would try that, otherwise can you connect to the net, video and sound ok?
That's the problem. I have an integrated Ethernet port. I'm going to try a separate one in a little while. I did some checking and Asus does have beta drivers for RC 7 for some motherboards. They have them for my main comp, but not for the one I'm using for RC 7.

TooLowBrow
05-31-2009, 09:26 PM
i dont have a dvd burner.

im gonna try a usb install.

any advice before i go for it?

PapaBear
05-31-2009, 09:41 PM
I installed a spare PCI Ethernet adapter, and it's online now. Whew!:clap:

styckx
06-01-2009, 06:04 AM
I installed a spare PCI Ethernet adapter, and it's online now. Whew!:clap:

Weird that it didn't detect an onboard card. What you can try is grabbing the Vista 64/32 (whatever version of Windows 7 you are running) drivers and try installing it anyway.

styckx
06-01-2009, 06:05 AM
My first real Windows 7 RC bug popped up yesterday. Also looks like it's a known random issue also.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/GettingReadyforWindows7/thread/a855d146-5c15-4d24-af7c-dab5c287c81f

Power unplugged
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/battery2.jpg

Plugged in
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/battery.jpg

^ Confirmed a Windows 7 problem. Tossed Vista back on the laptop. No battery warnings at all.

BeefJerkyJerry
06-01-2009, 08:48 AM
Anyone looking to play with the RC (release candidate) of the new Windows 7 can look here (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx) for the free download. This "version" is valid for a year with the license key they give you.

I will likely post what I think of it in the coming weeks. I am installing another HD (had a spare) for this. Now I'll have a triple boot machine, oh my.



WTF?!? I DL the file and all there is in the zip archive is a Txt file... I am not happy...

styckx
06-01-2009, 08:51 AM
What?

BeefJerkyJerry
06-01-2009, 08:59 AM
I downloaded the so called Windows 7 Zip file but when I open to burn it to a DvD there is nothing in the directory but a TxT file.. I have downloaded it like 4 times now.. Uugh

BeefJerkyJerry
06-01-2009, 09:33 AM
Ooops.. Its official.. I am a dummy... I was trying to Unzip the .ISO file... UUGH sorry for the stupid rant..

Keep WareZ Free!

PapaBear
06-01-2009, 11:58 PM
I can't get youtube videos and such to play when I'm using Firefox. It works in Explorer. Any ideas?

styckx
06-02-2009, 05:58 AM
I can't get youtube videos and such to play when I'm using Firefox. It works in Explorer. Any ideas?

install flash.

PapaBear
06-02-2009, 07:31 PM
install flash.
It won't let me for some reason.

ShowerBench
06-03-2009, 03:28 PM
I beta-tested 7 and now have RC. Love it, and was on the brink of swearing off PC's. Everything is compatible and runs faster. Formerly glitchy programs run flawlessly.

I also have a Mac, and would now say it's no better or worse than the PC.

I admit I was thrilled by 7 at first, but when I thought about it realized it was nothing special, except that my PC's finally work.

Evidently 7 is coming out in October:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/02/technology/microsoft_windows.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009060215

boosterp
06-04-2009, 09:01 PM
It won't let me for some reason.

That is weird. I don't think I had problems and I think that version of FF may still be beta. Go to Help on the tool bar, click help and check the version. If it has a "B" behind the numbers it is a beta. I'll check mine when I log on tomorrow and see if I can repeat the issue.

I beta-tested 7 and now have RC. Love it, and was on the brink of swearing off PC's. Everything is compatible and runs faster. Formerly glitchy programs run flawlessly.

I also have a Mac, and would now say it's no better or worse than the PC.

I admit I was thrilled by 7 at first, but when I thought about it realized it was nothing special, except that my PC's finally work.

Evidently 7 is coming out in October:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/02/technology/microsoft_windows.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009060215

Yea, that's what's on the RC site.

styckx
06-04-2009, 09:06 PM
Im going to actually buy Windows 7.

boosterp
06-04-2009, 09:41 PM
Im going to actually buy Windows 7.

Ditto.

PapaBear
06-04-2009, 09:48 PM
That is weird. I don't think I had problems and I think that version of FF may still be beta. Go to Help on the tool bar, click help and check the version. If it has a "B" behind the numbers it is a beta. I'll check mine when I log on tomorrow and see if I can repeat the issue.
Version 3.0.10

boosterp
06-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Version 3.0.10

Well shit my britches. I'll look it up now and see if others have the same problem.

BeefJerkyJerry
06-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Hey are any of you part of the MICROSOFT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM?

boosterp
06-06-2009, 02:55 PM
Hey are any of you part of the MICROSOFT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM?

I think that's what it was called during Vista beta 2 that I participated in during Vista. I was but I was so disappointed in the product I selected their email updates to go to my spam box.

styckx
06-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Unless it gets me doughnuts, coffee, and a free copy of Windows 7 I ain't joining that shit

boosterp
06-07-2009, 03:46 PM
I can't get youtube videos and such to play when I'm using Firefox. It works in Explorer. Any ideas?

Papa, install it separately from Adobe Flash website using the Vista drivers. There are two: one for Windows and one for FF and the others. You'll see a box that you have to close FF and install it the using the "Try again" button.

boosterp
06-26-2009, 02:44 AM
Well, I just received an email to save $100 off Win 7 if I pre-order it. I think I may just take the offer. What about y'all? I've been rather happy with Win 7.

Edit: Just in case: Linky (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order-email.aspx)

LordJezo
06-26-2009, 03:29 AM
Well, I just received an email to save $100 off Win 7 if I pre-order it. I think I may just take the offer. What about y'all? I've been rather happy with Win 7.

Edit: Just in case: Linky (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order-email.aspx)

I went in for the $50 Home Premium this morning from Amazon, $49.99. I have no use for anything in the Pro version.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-Premium-Upgrade/dp/B002DHLUWK/ref=sr_tr_1?ie=UTF8&s=aps&qid=1246015660&sr=8-1

50% offer is only good for the next couple weeks so if anyone wants it they need to get in on it soon. Upgrade key is good for anyone with a legal XP or Vista key. XP needs to do a clean install (which I always do anyway), Vista can upgrade with everything in place.

styckx
06-26-2009, 04:46 AM
bah, upgrade only. Which sucks because every time you want to format and do a fresh install, or if you get a new HD or PC you need to install Vista first.

LordJezo
06-26-2009, 05:44 AM
bah, upgrade only. Which sucks because every time you want to format and do a fresh install, or if you get a new HD or PC you need to install Vista first.

I think it just checks your old key to see if it's valid, not a full install first. You could do that with the Vista upgrade dvd so they should do that with 7 as well.

boosterp
07-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Another reason I will be buying Win 7 is game performance. Over the past 2 days I have pushed XP, Vista Home Premium, and Win 7 using Crysis with all the latest patches as a bench mark.


Some of you know the system I have, but as a refresher it is a dual Opteron 2212 (dual core each) with 3 gig of mem per processor, I am running all WD drives, my games such as Crysis is installed on on of 2 WD Raptors. I had dual XFX 8800 GT factory OCd with 640 of memory, PCI express 2.0 in SLI. I disabled SLI and pulled one card because it did not act right in Win 7.

At 1640 x 1050, AA at 8Q, AT at 4x, and texture filtering set to performance here were the results:

XP Pro: 32 FPS
Vista: 27 FPS
Win 7: 35 FPS

For each OS the latest Nvidia drivers were installed and tweaked in the NVIDIA control panel.

Win 7 did better even with the SLI issue (which in XP my FPS is only in the 40s). I am impressed.

DolaMight
07-16-2009, 01:14 PM
Another reason I will be buying Win 7 is game performance. Over the past 2 days I have pushed XP, Vista Home Premium, and Win 7 using Crysis with all the latest patches as a bench mark.


Some of you know the system I have, but as a refresher it is a dual Opteron 2212 (dual core each) with 3 gig of mem per processor, I am running all WD drives, my games such as Crysis is installed on on of 2 WD Raptors. I had dual XFX 8800 GT factory OCd with 640 of memory, PCI express 2.0 in SLI. I disabled SLI and pulled one card because it did not act right in Win 7.

At 1640 x 1050, AA at 8Q, AT at 4x, and texture filtering set to performance here were the results:

XP Pro: 32 FPS
Vista: 27 FPS
Win 7: 35 FPS

For each OS the latest Nvidia drivers were installed and tweaked in the NVIDIA control panel.

Win 7 did better even with the SLI issue (which in XP my FPS is only in the 40s). I am impressed.

40 FPS SLI vs 35FPS solo, are you really happy you paid 100% more for a 13.5% performance boost? Why not just buy a faster card.

boosterp
07-16-2009, 01:41 PM
40 FPS SLI vs 35FPS solo, are you really happy you paid 100% more for a 13.5% performance boost? Why not just buy a faster card.

I get about 10 fps better in SLI and at the time the 8800 was tops. I am saving for a 260 or 295.

Plus, Crysis is still the benchmark for torture.

styckx
07-16-2009, 01:54 PM
While purchasing just a new graphics card will only improve his gaming experience. Buying a new OS will not only improve his gaming experience but will also improve his whole computing experience in general. That 13% increase just upgrading to Windows 7 is worth it as it's not the sole purpose of an OS upgrade anyway. Just kind of a extra bonus.

boosterp
07-16-2009, 02:05 PM
While purchasing just a new graphics card will only improve his gaming experience. Buying a new OS will not only improve his gaming experience but will also improve his whole computing experience in general. That 13% increase just upgrading to Windows 7 is worth it as it's not the sole purpose of an OS upgrade anyway. Just kind of a extra bonus.

The 13% is in XP alone. Vista is fucked up, and in all 3 OSs for this test I did not run the SLI set up. Those frame rates are still very impressive considering the ssettings when compared to other video cards, even the newest ones.

PC Gamer April 2009 issue page 92 the GForce GTX 295 with 1.7 mem got 59 FPS in Crysis with similar settings.

My 2 year old cards in SLI get 12 under that and in single card mode get a respectable 32 FPS. Sounds like I made a good investment figuring the 295 is a $500 card.

boosterp
07-16-2009, 02:08 PM
40 FPS SLI vs 35FPS solo, are you really happy you paid 100% more for a 13.5% performance boost? Why not just buy a faster card.

Oh, and I said 40s in SLI under XP. I get 42-46 depending on the AA, AT, and texture settings in Crysis. Reread my post.

styckx
08-05-2009, 09:21 PM
Windows 7 RTM installed, cracked, and running flawlessly as my main OS now. No problems, and actually used the "upgrade" option. Took FOR-FUCKING-EVER but it worked and kept me from having to back up over 100 gigs of shit. So all in all it probably would've taken the same amount of time.

Solid OS, as Vista64 was, just more optimized. (by a lot)

PapaBear
08-05-2009, 09:25 PM
Windows 7 RTM installed, cracked, and running flawlessly as my main OS now. No problems, and actually used the "upgrade" option. Took FOR-FUCKING-EVER but it worked and kept me from having to back up over 100 gigs of shit. So all in all it probably would've taken the same amount of time.

Solid OS, as Vista64 was, just more optimized. (by a lot)
I've been loving it on my back up comp. I kind of wish I had put it on my main comp, but no biggie. I'm glad it's going to be fairly cheap when it's finally released. BTW... I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but any new comp with at least Vista Home Pro comes with a certificate for free upgrade to 7 when it's released. I've seen decent laptops at Best Buy for $399 that have it.

boosterp
08-06-2009, 12:27 AM
Well, I do like it, I have also been using Norton 10 beta, FF3.5 beta, and Shiretoko (64) all on my Win 7 drive with satisfaction.

I am not a big fan of Vista, but the Ultimate 64 bit version woks fairly well. I like the cleaner Win 7 and how it optimizes memory in my server. At 3 gigs per die for a total of 6 gig, I have tried to hit the ugly 85% (or more) memory used mark and have not been able to.

PapaBear
08-06-2009, 01:50 AM
I like the cleaner Win 7
What is this? I did a few searches and found too much to figure out exactly which one you are talking about.

boosterp
08-06-2009, 02:30 AM
What is this? I did a few searches and found too much to figure out exactly which one you are talking about.

Windows 7 RTM, I hate typing Windows some times.

PapaBear
09-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Did anyone else get an email about hosting a release party? I'm going for it. If you get chosen, they send you shit for the party, and you get a free Signature copy of Windows 7 Ultimate.

LordJezo
09-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Just upgraded to RTM on my laptop tonight. Work has a subscription to MSDN so I took advantage of that.

I did the upgrade and it worked well, it moved my old windows stuff to windows.old, I copied the desktop folder over to the current install, ran the updates, and everything worked without issue.

I look forward to upgrading my desktop with the final retail release next month.

LordJezo
09-11-2009, 04:19 AM
Fuck yeah!

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furie
09-13-2009, 01:54 PM
Microsoft admits critical Windows 7 bug (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterprise/351487/microsoft-admits-critical-windows-7-bug)



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Now playing: Bloodhound Gang - Screwing You On the Beach At Night (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/bloodhound+gang/track/screwing+you+on+the+beach+at+night)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

boosterp
09-13-2009, 03:32 PM
Did anyone else get an email about hosting a release party? I'm going for it. If you get chosen, they send you shit for the party, and you get a free Signature copy of Windows 7 Ultimate.

Got that email too.

Microsoft admits critical Windows 7 bug (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterprise/351487/microsoft-admits-critical-windows-7-bug)


I have had sharing disabled since install since it is on my big computer with 2 other OSs.

PapaBear
09-13-2009, 06:43 PM
Got that email too.
They say I find out if I get to do it, on or near Sept 18th.

PapaBear
09-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Woo Hoo!!! I just got an email...

Congratulations... You are a Windows® 7 Launch Party host!!



Free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition for me!!!:clap:

TooLowBrow
09-21-2009, 08:44 PM
Woo Hoo!!! I just got an email...



Free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition for me!!!:clap:

ill be expecting pie and punch

PapaBear
09-21-2009, 08:45 PM
ill be expecting pie and punch
You're outa luck. It's going to be pizza and beer.

TooLowBrow
09-21-2009, 08:54 PM
You're outa luck. It's going to be pizza and beer.

...and free windows for my house?!!?..ill take it!

boosterp
09-21-2009, 09:00 PM
Woo Hoo!!! I just got an email...



Free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition for me!!!:clap:

Congrats budday! :clap:

PapaBear
09-21-2009, 09:03 PM
They decided to send out all of the confirmation emails at 12:01AM. I can't do shit on the website, because it's overloaded with people saying "why is the website so slow".:wallbash:

LordJezo
09-25-2009, 05:52 AM
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PapaBear
10-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Got the email today. My Windows 7 Ultimate comes tomorrow! It come with both 64 bit and 32 bit. I'm gonna go for the 64.

TooLowBrow
10-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Got the email today. My Windows 7 Ultimate comes tomorrow! It come with both 64 bit and 32 bit. I'm gonna go for the 64.

good choice. its 32 better

PapaBear
10-06-2009, 06:46 PM
good choice. its 32 better
That's twice as good.

PapaBear
10-14-2009, 08:39 PM
I downloaded the Windows XP Mode last night. It works easily. Now I can use my 8 year old scanner that isn't Windows 7 compatible.

boosterp
10-15-2009, 09:10 AM
I downloaded the Windows XP Mode last night. It works easily. Now I can use my 8 year old scanner that isn't Windows 7 compatible.

XP mode is likely one of the best features of 7 over Vista in that you can use older hardware and software.

Fallon
10-22-2009, 08:57 AM
Just installed 7 upgrade to my PC. Liking it so far, my computer was originally XP, then upgraded to Vista and now 7. Love updates.

KnoxHarrington
10-22-2009, 09:43 AM
XP mode is likely one of the best features of 7 over Vista in that you can use older hardware and software.

I like that they're moving towards handling backwards compatibility with virtualization rather than trying to keep all those old-ass system files in there.

That's been a big cause of Windows instability...having to keep things working for someone still running 16 bit software, or some old-ass printer that originally was designed for 3.1. They need to prune a lot of that stuff out of there.

Space Edge
10-22-2009, 10:54 AM
If you have a .edu email address you can get it for $30
http://www.win741.com/

sr71blackbird
10-23-2009, 04:53 AM
If my old Windows version is corrupted, will the installation of this over it automatically format the computer and correct the corruption as this installs?

biggestmexi
10-23-2009, 04:55 AM
I would like to know if i have cracked Vista, which ive DL'ed updates for and not killed, will I be able to install a true REAL copy of 7 over it?

boosterp
10-23-2009, 07:59 AM
If my old Windows version is corrupted, will the installation of this over it automatically format the computer and correct the corruption as this installs?

I would like to know if i have cracked Vista, which ive DL'ed updates for and not killed, will I be able to install a true REAL copy of 7 over it?

Yes and yes.

sr71blackbird
10-24-2009, 02:37 AM
Thank you sir!

If anyone knows how I can get a cheap copy of windows 7, pm me ;)

boosterp
10-24-2009, 06:25 AM
Thank you sir!

If anyone knows how I can get a cheap copy of windows 7, pm me ;)

But legal right? Do you have anyone in your friends or family who is a student or works at an educational facility?

biggestmexi
10-24-2009, 07:29 AM
But legal right? Do you have anyone in your friends or family who is a student or works at an educational facility?

excatly or better yet part of the MSDNAA? HAHAHAH

all you need is a .edu email addy and you can pick it up for $30

sr71blackbird
10-25-2009, 01:03 PM
excatly or better yet part of the MSDNAA? HAHAHAH

all you need is a .edu email addy and you can pick it up for $30

I dont have it, since Im not a student. But if anyone wants to hook a brother up.... :wink:

furie
03-29-2010, 02:19 PM
well, i've just upgraded my father's laptop from vista to 7 and i must say that it appears to be a huge improvement

whatever the problems plaguing his vista computer seem to have been solved

zentraed
03-29-2010, 05:50 PM
well, i've just upgraded my father's laptop from vista to 7 and i must say that it appears to be a huge improvement

whatever the problems plaguing his vista computer seem to have been solved

I bought a Microsoft TechNet subscription and have installed Win7 on 3 computers and Server 2008 R2 on one. I love both of them. More responsive, no hardware issues out of the box (it took Vista drivers a while to mature), and I like the new Aero Peek.

Fuzz Whatley
04-06-2010, 05:42 AM
just got a Geforce gts 250, and if i want to get the best out of it i need 7 damnit. :drunk: