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JustJon
05-09-2009, 06:56 PM
Since jab and I started having this discussion in the Free Comic Book Day thread, and it really didn't belong there, here we are...

So I'm not a big Jeph Loeb fan, but I find myself regularly reading his stuff anyway.

I've read his Batman books (Hush, Long Halloween and Dark Victory and others) and all those stories let me down. It's Jeph meandering thru the Batman rogues gallery to an unsatisfying conclusion that is either broadcast from the beginning (Hush) or an unsatisfying ending that after a long story is unsatisfying (Long Halloween).

His Batman/Superman book was decent, but didn't go along with continuity (not necessarily a bad thing), and ultimately was just a fanboyish way of doing the World's Finest stories of the Silver Age.

I read Catwoman: When in Rome this week on someone's recommendation, and I thought it was ok. A decent story between Long Halloween and Dark Victory, but it may be the best Jeph Loeb story I've read since I read his Age of Apocalypse X-Man story.

I feel like Jeph's best stories are when he is locked into other people's frameworks (like X-Man), and he doesn't have the freedom to meander thru to an unsatisfying conclusion.

TheMojoPin
05-09-2009, 07:02 PM
I like LH and DV, but they're nothing special. I've enjoyed his "color" titles for Marvel.

Pretty much the only thing he's done that I've really liked is Superman for all Seasons. Everything else is hacky as hell.

weekapaugjz
05-09-2009, 07:04 PM
i enjoyed his batman stuff with long halloween and dark victory when i first read them. but that could also be because they were some of the first graphic novels i had read when starting my collection. since then i have read much better stuff, so my opinion very well may have changed if i went back and re-read them.

his first few issues during his Hulk run were absolute shit. i think i gave up after issue #4 or 5. this disappointed me a lot because my interest in the hulk was at an all time high after reading world war hulk.

i will be very weary about picking up future loeb stuff. the one story i may pick up is the captain america: white, but who knows when that is coming out. #0 was out last summer. i think the only reason i somewhat enjoyed it was tim sale's art.

jab
05-09-2009, 07:08 PM
awesome jon!

i hate that i hate jeph loeb. same here, i usually feel let down. but yeah hulk ANGERED me (rar smash) with that defenders issue. but, also i did find myself enjoying that cap white #0 that came out, and parts of ultimatum i like as well, but im wondering if those are bendis bits. sry, rambling.

DolaMight
05-09-2009, 08:01 PM
you say... something about comic books
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zxsbVMrOUNw/SDr1KUX8SrI/AAAAAAAAAOc/l_5xt6oUZpQ/s400/lisa_loeb3.jpg

jab
05-09-2009, 08:03 PM
im going to have fantasies about her as batgirl now.



no, i am not the joker in those fantasies.


if you got that im pointing and laughing at you and feeling bad about myself. and then alan moore rolls his eyes and smokes magic things.