2010 NFL Off-Season Thread

[TripleSkeet]

The Rams could possibly have the worst 2 minute offense I've ever seen.

You need to see more Eagles games.

[K.C.]

Why didn't Andy Reid go for two on that last touchdown?

The extra point means nothing in terms of the scoring formula to win the game. The two point conversion would put you at 11, which is a touch, a two, and field goal.

[TripleSkeet]

Why didn't Andy Reid go for two on that last touchdown?

The extra point means nothing in terms of the scoring formula to win the game. The two point conversion would put you at 11, which is a touch, a two, and field goal.

Because hes an idiot.

[K.C.]

Because hes an idiot.

Correct.

That would also be the answer to "Why have Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick never been on the field at the same time, for a play" and "Why wouldn't you try running a Vick play out of the shotgun in the red zone when San Diego is dropping eight into the end zone"

[keithy_19]

The Giants suck as of late, so the only thing in football I got going for me is the red hot Bengals and watching Romo getting sacked.

[K.C.]

Could be 28-25 right now if Andy could do proper math.

Eagles will lose this game because they have to score a TD in the final seconds instead of kicking a field goal. Book it.

[GregoryJoseph]

How about my Bengals?!?!?!

[Kevin]

Big shocker that Reid has no TO's here.

[Kevin]

How about my Bengals?!?!?!

Don't even try it.

You shamlessy quit on them when they were down.

You have a permanent ban on that badwagon.

In fact, if they see you near it, you will be immeadiatly shot.

[TheMojoPin]

Should I ban Gvac if he attempts to become a Bengals fan again?

[keithy_19]

Romo intercepted!

[Kevin]

Should I ban Gvac if he attempts to become a Bengals fan again?

God Yes.

Banned on site.

[keithy_19]

Should I ban Gvac if he attempts to become a Bengals fan again?

The Bengals are my AFC team. They used to be my loveable losers, the losers in a halfway house, and now the potential AFC North Champs. Only in America.

[TheMojoPin]

The Bengals are my AFC team. They used to be my loveable losers, the losers in a halfway house, and now the potential AFC North Champs. Only in America.

"Your AFC team?" I should ban you, too. One team.

[GregoryJoseph]

Never fear. I was a loyal, diehard Bengals fan for over 30 years.

Then came the bitter divorce.

I'd NEVER go back to that bitch.

[Kevin]

Never fear. I was a loyal, diehard Bengals fan for over 30 years.

Then came the bitter divorce.

I'd NEVER go back to that bitch.

You have no excuse for quiting on your team.

I am a fucking Knick fan.

And continue to watch every game..

WHY?

Because i am a fan, and i am an idiot.

But i will never have another team.

[brettmojo]

This Dal/GB game might be the most awful NFL game I have ever seen parts of.

[keithy_19]

"Your AFC team?" I should ban you, too. One team.

I'm a Giants fan. But out of the AFC teams, I enjoy watching the Bengals the most.

[Kevin]

This Dal/GB game might be the most awful NFL game I have ever seen parts of.

Its painfully bad.

[GregoryJoseph]

You have no excuse for quiting on your team.

I am a fucking Knick fan.

And continue to watch every game..

WHY?

Because i am a fan, and i am an idiot.

But i will never have another team.

Imagine being married for thirty years to a miserable woman who did nothing but lie, cheat, and steal from you.

When you finally had enough, you move on.

Just because she shows up somewhere all dolled up and looking good doesn't mean you'd ever take her back.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm a Giants fan. But out of the AFC teams, I enjoy watching the Bengals the most.

ONE TEAM.

[Kevin]

Imagine being married for thirty years to a miserable woman who did nothing but lie, cheat, and steal from you.

When you finally had enough, you move on.

Just because she shows up somewhere all dolled up and looking good doesn't mean you'd ever take her back.

No.....


But this is football... Not a woman...

[underdog]

Stupid Tony Romo just cost me a win in one of my leagues. Stupid ass.

[TheMojoPin]

Imagine being married for thirty years to a miserable woman who did nothing but lie, cheat, and steal from you.

When you finally had enough, you move on.

Just because she shows up somewhere all dolled up and looking good doesn't mean you'd ever take her back.

Then this means you've given up on the Reds, too.

[Ritalin]

"Your AFC team?" I should ban you, too. One team.

No, I don't agree with that. I think every fan has secondary teams that they like. I've always kind of liked the Jets. Doesn't mean I don't like the Bears any more.

Then you have to pick a team you're going to ride through the season if your team's in the shitter. I think the Saints are pretty likeable, Brees is cool and Sean Payton has paid his dues.

I can't just sit there and watch a game without picking a side. Fucking boring.

[TheMojoPin]

No, I don't agree with that. I think every fan has secondary teams that they like. I've always kind of liked the Jets. Doesn't mean I don't like the Bears any more.

Then you have to pick a team you're going to ride through the season if your team's in the shitter. I think the Saints are pretty likeable, Brees is cool and Sean Payton has paid his dues.

I can't just sit there and watch a game without picking a side. Fucking boring.

You can pick a side in the context of a single game, but having a team you always root for is just having a backup team.

[epo]

This Dal/GB game might be the most awful NFL game I have ever seen parts of.

It was beautiful.

[epo]

Imagine being married for thirty years to a miserable woman who did nothing but lie, cheat, and steal from you.

When you finally had enough, you move on.

Just because she shows up somewhere all dolled up and looking good doesn't mean you'd ever take her back.

You are a weak shell of a human being.

[TripleSkeet]

You can pick a side in the context of a single game, but having a team you always root for is just having a backup team.

I agree. You can like certain teams in certain years, but you cant call them your team. Thats a violation.

Right now I find myself really liking the Dolphins. I have no idea why. I just like the way they are playing. But Id never call them my team of any kind. My teams the Eagles. Thats it.

[foodcourtdruide]

I find exaggerated "team pride" extremely depressing. I understand cheering for a team or an organization, but when people start to judge others or promote themselves based on the extent of feelings they have for a team I find it sad.

[Ritalin]

You can pick a side in the context of a single game, but having a team you always root for is just having a backup team.

What if you move? I live out here in Queens and I'm not dumping the Bears, but I can't help liking the Jets a little.

Don't be so rigid, Mojo.

[foodcourtdruide]

Imagine being married for thirty years to a miserable woman who did nothing but lie, cheat, and steal from you.

When you finally had enough, you move on.

Just because she shows up somewhere all dolled up and looking good doesn't mean you'd ever take her back.

I'm with you. When you look deep down there is absolutely no reason to have an obligation to a team. It's kind of like saying "I WILL BE A KISS FAN NO MATTER WHAT!".... why? What if they start putting out albums you don't like? What is the point?

[TripleSkeet]

What if you move? I live out here in Queens and I'm not dumping the Bears, but I can't help liking the Jets a little.

Don't be so rigid, Mojo.

You can switch teams but not share. Either abandon the Bears or stick with them. Otherwise youre a fraud.

[GregoryJoseph]

Does anyone else think Tony Dungy has a secret?

He looks so...delicate.

[foodcourtdruide]

Does anyone else think Tony Dungy has a secret?

He looks so...delicate.

I love him. I've heard people on here say he's a bit too soft on players, and I agree. However, you can't argue with his analysis most times. He's a brilliant guy.

[Ritalin]

You can switch teams but not share. Either abandon the Bears or stick with them. Otherwise youre a fraud.

Hey, wait. You're right. I'm a fraud because I like a second football team.

(you simpleton)

[underdog]

Does anyone else think Tony Dungy has a secret?

He looks so...delicate.

The people who are hard against gays usually end up with some sort of secret coming out.

[GregoryJoseph]

The people who are hard against gays usually end up with some sort of secret coming out.

Right?

And that creepy John Waters mustache he was sporting for awhile speaks volumes...

[epo]

Right?

And that creepy John Waters mustache he was sporting for awhile speaks volumes...

So what's your excuse?

[RhinoinMN]

What if you move? I live out here in Queens and I'm not dumping the Bears, but I can't help liking the Jets a little.

Don't be so rigid, Mojo.

You can pull for the Jets to beat everyother team but the Bears.

[Ritalin]

You can pull for the Jets to beat everyother team but the Bears.

The voice of reason from the frozen north.

[foodcourtdruide]

It is scary how good Manning is this year, especially considering Harrison leaving and A. Gonzalez getting injured.

[TheMojoPin]

The voice of reason from the frozen north.

All of the teams don't play each other each year. You're more often than not going to have a secondary team that you're rooting for to win all of their games. If that's the case, why stop there? Might as well root for half a dozen teams at any given time.

[Ritalin]

All of the teams don't play each other each year. You're more often than not going to have a secondary team that you're rooting for to win all of their games. If that's the case, why stop there? Might as well root for half a dozen teams at any given time.

No, just the two teams thanks.

I don't get this. Don't you have a team that you like - for
whatever reason - besides the Bears?

[foodcourtdruide]

No, just the two teams thanks.

I don't get this. Don't you have a team that you like - for
whatever reason - besides the Bears?

I'm still trying to understand the point of this allegiance too.

[TheMojoPin]

No, just the two teams thanks.

I don't get this. Don't you have a team that you like - for
whatever reason - besides the Bears?

That I'll root for every game? No. I'll pick sides with each game I want, but there's no other team that I'll always pick game after game.

[Ritalin]

That I'll root for every game? No. I'll pick sides with each game I want, but there's no other team that I'll always pick game after game.

Is there a team that you always root against?

[underdog]

It is scary how good Manning is this year, especially considering Harrison leaving and A. Gonzalez getting injured.

I don't get all the love for only Manning & Brees this year. Brady has the same numbers as Manning, only he's coming off knee surgery. Manning did last year and they gave him the MVP for it.

[TheMojoPin]

Is there a team that you always root against?

Football: Vikings, Cowboys, Redskins and Packers.

Baseball: Cardinals, Mets and White Sox.

Basketball: Knicks, Heat and Pistons.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't get all the love for only Manning & Brees this year. Brady has the same numbers as Manning, only he's coming off knee surgery. Manning did last year and they gave him the MVP for it.

Manning has the handicap of being ugly.

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't get all the love for only Manning & Brees this year. Brady has the same numbers as Manning, only he's coming off knee surgery. Manning did last year and they gave him the MVP for it.

Manning's stats are slightly better and Brady has slightly better WR/TE (or would you say equal? Moss/Welker is awesome, but so is Clark/Wayne), that being said: Brady is incredible and is having an amazing year especially considering he missed almost all of last season. If I had to rank them though, I'd put Manning/Brees ahead of him, but not by much.

[foodcourtdruide]

Manning has the handicap of being ugly.

That's weird. I always thought you were male?

[Snoogans]

Manning's stats are slightly better and Brady has slightly better WR/TE (or would you say equal? Moss/Welker is awesome, but so is Clark/Wayne), that being said: Brady is incredible and is having an amazing year especially considering he missed almost all of last season. If I had to rank them though, I'd put Manning/Brees ahead of him, but not by much.

brees is a fuckin bum

[foodcourtdruide]

brees is a fuckin bum

I agree. By the end of the season this conversation will only be about Brady and Manning.

[keithy_19]

You can pull for the Jets to beat everyother team but the Bears.

That's how I am with the Giants and the Bengals. If the Giants are playing the Bengals, fuck the Bengals. Let's go Giants.

If the Bengals are playing any other team, let's go Bengals.

[TheMojoPin]

That's how I am with the Giants and the Bengals. If the Giants are playing the Bengals, fuck the Bengals. Let's go Giants.

If the Bengals are playing any other team, let's go Bengals.

So you're a fan of two teams.

[TheMojoPin]

That's weird. I always thought you were male?

What's weird? I have eyes. There's not a Manning alive that doesn't look like some kind of horrible bumpkin accident.

[foodcourtdruide]

What's weird? I have eyes. There's not a Manning alive that doesn't look like some kind of horrible bumpkin accident.

Lol. My wife wants to fistfight you.

[underdog]

Lol. My wife wants to fistfight you.

Peyton Manning looks like a horse.

And not one of those good looking horses, either.

The Patriots are killing the Colts so far.

[underdog]

I think this Patriots team is a little better than I thought they were.

[Ritalin]

Lol. My wife wants to fistfight you.

your wife would win.

[TheMojoPin]

your wife would win.

Because I don't hit women like the rest of you animals do.

[Ritalin]

Because I don't hit women like the rest of you animals do.

the gimp never hits back.

[TripleSkeet]

The voice of reason from the frozen north.

I said the same thing dumbass. The point is though, you cant refer to them as your "2nd team". You only get one team. So when people ask who your team is, you cant answer "the Bears and the Jets". Its either the Bears or the Jets.

I dont care who you root for week to week. As a gambler my weekly allegiances change depending on who my money is on. But my team is still the Eagles.

[epo]

I cannot believe the Pats went for that.

Just stupid.

[PapaBear]

I'm loving it.

[underdog]

I cannot believe the Pats went for that.

Just stupid.

The Colts needed a TD no matter what. Belichick figured their defense would have given it up no matter what, so he probably felt he had no choice.

[Kevin]

The Colts needed a TD no matter what. Belichick figured their defense would have given it up no matter what, so he probably felt he had no choice.

No fucking excuse for that.

YOU CAN'T GIVE PEYTON MANNING THE BALL AT YOUR FUCKING 29.

This is the worst call i have seen.

Just pure idiocy.

[epo]

The Colts needed a TD no matter what. Belichick figured their defense would have given it up no matter what, so he probably felt he had no choice.

Well, that call guaranteed they'd score a TD. That drive they pissed away 2 timeouts AND gave that hillbilly Manning the ball on the 30.

I've never seen the hoodie do something that dumb before.

[Kevin]

Well, that call guaranteed they'd score a TD. That drive they pissed away 2 timeouts AND gave that hillbilly Manning the ball on the 30.

I've never seen the hoodie do something that dumb before.

Not since Snoogans at a board event at least.

[Enabler]

This is the worst call i have seen.



Hey!
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[jauble]

Wow...thats all I've got.

Also did anyone see that cameraman get tossed as Bellichek was trying to get to the loker room?

[hammersavage]

I can't believe Belichek of all people would make that call. On the opponents 40, I like the call. From your own 30, even with the best offense in the league, you absolutely don't make that call. Terrible

[Fallon]

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[jauble]

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:24 seconds... ladies and gentlemen... THE TOM BRADY FACE!

[Ritalin]

I thought it was the right call.

This is from the Times this morning:

(Brian Burke, a former Navy pilot who has taken up the less dangerous hobby of N.F.L. statistical analysis, operates Advanced NFL Stats, a blog about football, math and human behavior.)

New England Coach Bill Belichick is taking a lot of heat for his decision to attempt a 4th-down conversion from his own 28 with a late 6-point lead against the Colts. Indianapolis came back to win in dramatic fashion, 35-34. Was the decision a good one?

With 2:08 left and the Colts with only one timeout, a successful 4th-and-2 conversion wins the game for all practical purposes. A conversion on 4th-and-2 would be successful 60 percent of the time. Historically, in a situation with 2:00 left and needing a TD to either win or tie, teams get the TD 53 percent of the time from that field position. The total win probability for the 4th-down conversion attempt would therefore be:

(0.60 * 1) + (0.40 * (1-0.53)) = 0.79 WP (WP stands for win probability)

A punt from the 28 typically nets 38 yards, starting the Colts at their 34. Teams historically get the TD 30 percent of the time in that situation. So the punt gives the Pats about a 0.70 WP.

Statistically, the better decision would be to go for it, and by a good amount. However, these numbers are baselines for the league as a whole. You'd have to expect the Colts had a better than 30 percent chance of scoring from their 34, and an accordingly higher chance to score from the Pats' 28. But any adjustment in their likelihood of scoring from either field position increases the advantage of going for it. You can play with the numbers any way you like, but it's pretty hard to come up with a realistic combination of numbers that makes punting the better option. At best, you could make it a wash.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm soooo far behind on Ron and Fez. Right now I'm listening to the show before the Miami/Indie Monday Night game and its hilarious to hear how wrong they are about the season so far. They're talking about the Giants being the best team in the NFC and the Colts not having it this year. Dave also picked Chicago to go to the Superbowl.

[underdog]

I thought it was the right call.

This is from the Times this morning:

(Brian Burke, a former Navy pilot who has taken up the less dangerous hobby of N.F.L. statistical analysis, operates Advanced NFL Stats, a blog about football, math and human behavior.)

New England Coach Bill Belichick is taking a lot of heat for his decision to attempt a 4th-down conversion from his own 28 with a late 6-point lead against the Colts. Indianapolis came back to win in dramatic fashion, 35-34. Was the decision a good one?

With 2:08 left and the Colts with only one timeout, a successful 4th-and-2 conversion wins the game for all practical purposes. A conversion on 4th-and-2 would be successful 60 percent of the time. Historically, in a situation with 2:00 left and needing a TD to either win or tie, teams get the TD 53 percent of the time from that field position. The total win probability for the 4th-down conversion attempt would therefore be:

(0.60 * 1) + (0.40 * (1-0.53)) = 0.79 WP (WP stands for win probability)

A punt from the 28 typically nets 38 yards, starting the Colts at their 34. Teams historically get the TD 30 percent of the time in that situation. So the punt gives the Pats about a 0.70 WP.

Statistically, the better decision would be to go for it, and by a good amount. However, these numbers are baselines for the league as a whole. You'd have to expect the Colts had a better than 30 percent chance of scoring from their 34, and an accordingly higher chance to score from the Pats' 28. But any adjustment in their likelihood of scoring from either field position increases the advantage of going for it. You can play with the numbers any way you like, but it's pretty hard to come up with a realistic combination of numbers that makes punting the better option. At best, you could make it a wash.

The Patriots go for it on 4th down a lot, so the decision wasn't too surprising. And I'm totally ok with the decision. If the Colts got the ball, they were going to score, no matter where it was.

[foodcourtdruide]

The Patriots go for it on 4th down a lot, so the decision wasn't too surprising. And I'm totally ok with the decision. If the Colts got the ball, they were going to score, no matter where it was.

The more I think about it, it wasn't a terrible call. No one gets down the field faster in late game situations than the Colts.

[underdog]

The more I think about it, it wasn't a terrible call. No one gets down the field faster in late game situations than the Colts.

They had a timeout and had already torched the Pats secondary.

The two picks that Manning threw were his own fault, he just threw ducks. It wasn't because of good coverage or anything. Manning just threw two bad passes. The chances of it happening again were slim.

[foodcourtdruide]

They had a timeout and had already torched the Pats secondary.

The two picks that Manning threw were his own fault, he just threw ducks. It wasn't because of good coverage or anything. Manning just threw two bad passes. The chances of it happening again were slim.

The Wayne interception was clear miscommunication and Manning took blame. I can't imagine Manning making those types of mistakes 3 times in one game. Also, you have to give a ton of credit to the Colts D for the turnovers and stopping the Pats late. They've had many injuries in their pass coverage, so there was no way they were going to be able to handle Brady/Moss, but give them credit for how they finished that game.

[Snoogans]

I thought it was the right call.

This is from the Times this morning:

(Brian Burke, a former Navy pilot who has taken up the less dangerous hobby of N.F.L. statistical analysis, operates Advanced NFL Stats, a blog about football, math and human behavior.)

New England Coach Bill Belichick is taking a lot of heat for his decision to attempt a 4th-down conversion from his own 28 with a late 6-point lead against the Colts. Indianapolis came back to win in dramatic fashion, 35-34. Was the decision a good one?

With 2:08 left and the Colts with only one timeout, a successful 4th-and-2 conversion wins the game for all practical purposes. A conversion on 4th-and-2 would be successful 60 percent of the time. Historically, in a situation with 2:00 left and needing a TD to either win or tie, teams get the TD 53 percent of the time from that field position. The total win probability for the 4th-down conversion attempt would therefore be:

(0.60 * 1) + (0.40 * (1-0.53)) = 0.79 WP (WP stands for win probability)

A punt from the 28 typically nets 38 yards, starting the Colts at their 34. Teams historically get the TD 30 percent of the time in that situation. So the punt gives the Pats about a 0.70 WP.

Statistically, the better decision would be to go for it, and by a good amount. However, these numbers are baselines for the league as a whole. You'd have to expect the Colts had a better than 30 percent chance of scoring from their 34, and an accordingly higher chance to score from the Pats' 28. But any adjustment in their likelihood of scoring from either field position increases the advantage of going for it. You can play with the numbers any way you like, but it's pretty hard to come up with a realistic combination of numbers that makes punting the better option. At best, you could make it a wash.

as soon as this shit starts to come into play, its nonsense. Here is a foolproof way you dont go for it there:

YOU ARE INSIDE YOUR OWN FUCKIN 30. The only time goin for it is a good option is if it sneakable inches. 4th and 2 at your own 30 with 2 min left in the game doesnt show faith in your offense, it shows lack of confidence in your defense. It was a stupid move, PERIOD

[Snoogans]

you all know everyone is tryin to rationalize this move because of who did it. If it was Jim Zorn who did this, he would be gettin UNIVERSALLY KILLED. You all know that.

Because Bellechik is known as such a good coach is why people are tryin to convince themselves that this was a good idea.

[TripleSkeet]

as soon as this shit starts to come into play, its nonsense. Here is a foolproof way you dont go for it there:

YOU ARE INSIDE YOUR OWN FUCKIN 30. The only time goin for it is a good option is if it sneakable inches. 4th and 2 at your own 30 with 2 min left in the game doesnt show faith in your offense, it shows lack of confidence in your defense. It was a stupid move, PERIOD

He had every right to have lack of faith in his defense. They were getting lit the fuck up. Hes got a tremendous offense. They shouldve been able to get 2 yards to win the game.

Im not going to fault Belichick for having some balls and playing to win instead of playing not to lose.

[Snoogans]

He had every right to have lack of faith in his defense. They were getting lit the fuck up. Hes got a tremendous offense. They shouldve been able to get 2 yards to win the game.

Im not going to fault Belichick for having some balls and playing to win instead of playing not to lose.

yea you should always be able to get 2 yards on offense. But you dont always, and thats why the spot on the field changes that decision.

im not gonna roast bellechik or say he should be fired for having some balls. I like the ballsy aspect, it was just a stupid risk. And again, keep in mind if this was almost any other coach, he would be gettin CRUCIFIED for it. Thats the main point. It wsant smart, it was stupid. You can debate whether you liked it or not, but it wasnt that smart

[underdog]

as soon as this shit starts to come into play, its nonsense. Here is a foolproof way you dont go for it there:

YOU ARE INSIDE YOUR OWN FUCKIN 30. The only time goin for it is a good option is if it sneakable inches. 4th and 2 at your own 30 with 2 min left in the game doesnt show faith in your offense, it shows lack of confidence in your defense. It was a stupid move, PERIOD

The bolded point is the only relevant thing in there. The defense was going to get torched no matter what. He had more faith in his offense picking up 2 yards than his defense stopping Peyton Manning.

What if Hanson shanks the kick (which he has done a lot this year)? What if the Pats get burnt on the punt return?

Teams punt way too much anyway. It's usually completely useless. I love watching a team with 1 win on the season punting from the opposing team's 45.

you all know everyone is tryin to rationalize this move because of who did it. If it was Jim Zorn who did this, he would be gettin UNIVERSALLY KILLED. You all know that.

Because Bellechik is known as such a good coach is why people are tryin to convince themselves that this was a good idea.

I loved when Kiffin tried kicking a 73 yard FG. I loved when Gruden went for 2 for the win instead of kicking the extra point. I love it when coaches take chances.

STOP BEING PUSSIES.

[underdog]

im not gonna roast bellechik or say he should be fired for having some balls. I like the ballsy aspect, it was just a stupid risk. And again, keep in mind if this was almost any other coach, he would be gettin CRUCIFIED for it. Thats the main point. It wsant smart, it was stupid. You can debate whether you liked it or not, but it wasnt that smart

If it had worked, all you'd be hearing today is what a great, courageous choice it was to go for it.

[Snoogans]

The bolded point is the only relevant thing in there. The defense was going to get torched no matter what. He had more faith in his offense picking up 2 yards than his defense stopping Peyton Manning.

What if Hanson shanks the kick (which he has done a lot this year)? What if the Pats get burnt on the punt return?

Teams punt way too much anyway. It's usually completely useless. I love watching a team with 1 win on the season punting from the opposing team's 45.



I loved when Kiffin tried kicking a 73 yard FG. I loved when Gruden went for 2 for the win instead of kicking the extra point. I love it when coaches take chances.

STOP BEING PUSSIES.

i loved that shit too. Again, I like the ballsy ness of it. but lets not be blind and try to act like it was smart.

it wasnt smart for Kiffin to try that. Awesome and hilarious, yes, smart, come on

[Snoogans]

If it had worked, all you'd be hearing today is what a great, courageous choice it was to go for it.

yea of course cause these guys are douches who suck anyone's cock they can. If zorn did it and was successful, they would still call him stupid and just say he got lucky.

[Bowlofcheesesteaks]

Looks like one coach was thinking about me when he went for it on 4th and 2. EAT ME.

[underdog]

i loved that shit too. Again, I like the ballsy ness of it. but lets not be blind and try to act like it was smart.

it wasnt smart for Kiffin to try that. Awesome and hilarious, yes, smart, come on

I didn't say Kiffin was smart, just that I liked seeing it.

I don't understand why shitty teams don't go for it more. What do you have to lose? Like the Titans sticking with Kerry Collins for so long this year. WHY?!

yea of course cause these guys are douches who suck anyone's cock they can. If zorn did it and was successful, they would still call him stupid and just say he got lucky.

Well, Zorn sucks.

[Snoogans]

I didn't say Kiffin was smart, just that I liked seeing it.

I don't understand why shitty teams don't go for it more. What do you have to lose? Like the Titans sticking with Kerry Collins for so long this year. WHY?!



Well, Zorn sucks.

EXACTLY.
On both counts. I have always been with the shitty teams need to take chances mode. Anyone who ever reads TMQ on espn.com, he rips shitty teams every week for the times they were pussies even though they are done anyway.

And to the last thing, right. Because Bill is known as a HOF coach, people are tryin to rationalize this being a smart move. Any other coach there isnt even people arguing that it was a good move. its not the decision you guys are arguing for, its the person

[Snoogans]

Reggie Bush, Jay Feeley and Keith Bullock were all killing Bill on twitter last night and today

[underdog]

Reggie Bush, Jay Feeley and Keith Bullock were all killing Bill on twitter last night and today

Belichick had no faith in his defense.

It's like when Grady stuck with Pedro because he thought his bullpen sucked. He had to pick his poison.

[Snoogans]

Belichick had no faith in his defense.

It's like when Grady stuck with Pedro because he thought his bullpen sucked. He had to pick his poison.

i know i just find it funny that a Kicker killed bill for a coaching move

[TripleSkeet]

. I like the ballsy aspect, it was just a stupid risk. And again, keep in mind if this was almost any other coach, he would be gettin CRUCIFIED for it. Thats the main point. It wsant smart, it was stupid. You can debate whether you liked it or not, but it wasnt that smart

I look at it a different way. If they were playing almost any other team, he would be gettiong torched for this decision. But with the Colts offense, and their history of driving down the field in no time, and considering what theyd been doing to the defense all game, it turns out to be a very justified move.

[Snoogans]

a kicker who gets to go to NE to play next weekend too

[Snoogans]

I look at it a different way. If they were playing almost any other team, he would be gettiong torched for this decision. But with the Colts offense, and their history of driving down the field in no time, and considering what theyd been doing to the defense all game, it turns out to be a very justified move.

no it wasnt. the colts woulda had just under 2 min with 1 time out to go lets say 65 yards. Instead they had 2 minutes to go 30 yards. They didnt even have to hurry. 40 seconds left they were taking their time, huddling. At least make them have to rush some, have to get it done, maybe you force manning into a bad throw instead of him handing off a couple times to kill clock. It wasnt justified, making the 4th down is all that would have done that.

[foodcourtdruide]

I agree with Snoogans that if this was Zorn he would have gotten universally destroyed, however, the Colts offense has one of the best late 2-minute drives I've ever seen. I don't agree with the decision, but I understand it.

[Snoogans]

I agree with Snoogans that if this was Zorn he would have gotten universally destroyed, however, the Colts offense has one of the best late 2-minute drives I've ever seen. I don't agree with the decision, but I understand it.

again i never said i didnt understand it. I never said i even didnt like it. It just wasnt smart or the right move.

[TripleSkeet]

no it wasnt. the colts woulda had just under 2 min with 1 time out to go lets say 65 yards. Instead they had 2 minutes to go 30 yards. They didnt even have to hurry. 40 seconds left they were taking their time, huddling. At least make them have to rush some, have to get it done, maybe you force manning into a bad throw instead of him handing off a couple times to kill clock. It wasnt justified, making the 4th down is all that would have done that.

2 minutes with 1 timeout is way more then enough time for the Colts to go 65 yards. Theyve proved that time and time again. When your playing a steamroller offense youve got to take risks to get the win.

Would it have made it harder for them to score? Sure. But everyone, including New Englands coach, felt that they were going to score either way. The only way to beat them was to make sure they didnt get the ball back. And thats what he tried to do.

Personally I wouldve tried a punt fake with a direct snap to Faulk.

[foodcourtdruide]

2 minutes with 1 timeout is way more then enough time for the Colts to go 65 yards. Theyve proved that time and time again. When your playing a steamroller offense youve got to take risks to get the win.

Would it have made it harder for them to score? Sure. But everyone, including New Englands coach, felt that they were going to score either way. The only way to beat them was to make sure they didnt get the ball back. And thats what he tried to do.

Personally I wouldve tried a punt fake with a direct snap to Faulk.

I would have just punted. The NE special teams is superior to the IND special teams. Maybe they could have forced something on the punt? Maybe they could have put the Colts behind the 30? I just could imagine quick throws to Garcon/Wayne and the Colts at the 28 in 30 seconds.

[Snoogans]

2 minutes with 1 timeout is way more then enough time for the Colts to go 65 yards. Theyve proved that time and time again. When your playing a steamroller offense youve got to take risks to get the win.

Would it have made it harder for them to score? Sure. But everyone, including New Englands coach, felt that they were going to score either way. The only way to beat them was to make sure they didnt get the ball back. And thats what he tried to do.

Personally I wouldve tried a punt fake with a direct snap to Faulk.

AGAIN I DIDNT SAY I DIDNT LIKE IT.

IT JUST WASNT THE RIGHT, OR SMART, PLAY. JESUS, READ SHIT

And no matter what, its not justified if you dont make it. Thats with any sport/coach

[TripleSkeet]

AGAIN I DIDNT SAY I DIDNT LIKE IT.

IT JUST WASNT THE RIGHT, OR SMART, PLAY. JESUS, READ SHIT

And no matter what, its not justified if you dont make it. Thats with any sport/coach

I read what you said, and I understand it. But its an opinion. You say it wasnt a smart move, or the right move. I personally disagree.

Safe doesnt mean smart.

Punting wouldve been the safe move. That doesnt make it the smart move.

[Snoogans]

I read what you said, and I understand it. But its an opinion. You say it wasnt a smart move, or the right move. I personally disagree.

Safe doesnt mean smart.

Punting wouldve been the safe move. That doesnt make it the smart move.

not going for it at your own 28 more than 4th and a foot is always smart

[TripleSkeet]

not going for it at your own 28 more than 4th and a foot is always smart

So if it was 4th and a foot and they went for it and didnt get it, that would make it a smart move?

Dude not every situation is the same! Thats the thing about football. There isnt a concrete way on how to do things. You dont play a team like the Colts the same way you play a team like the Raiders.

The team you play dictates how you play the game. Teams that dont adapt to their competition can usually be found at the bottom of the standings.

[Snoogans]

So if it was 4th and a foot and they went for it and didnt get it, that would make it a smart move?

Dude not every situation is the same! Thats the thing about football. There isnt a concrete way on how to do things. You dont play a team like the Colts the same way you play a team like the Raiders.

The team you play dictates how you play the game. Teams that dont adapt to their competition can usually be found at the bottom of the standings.

if you get stopped on a QB sneak on 4th and a foot the entire offense should be released

[TripleSkeet]

if you get stopped on a QB sneak on 4th and a foot the entire offense should be released

But weve seen that happen plenty of times.

[Snoogans]

But weve seen that happen plenty of times.

yea i didnt say smart moves always work and wrong ones never do. anyway my points are made

[Snoogans]

I guess ol Bill told me, didnt he:

“A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You should see the look on all of your faces right now,” said Bill Belichick in the Patriots post-game locker room. “Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. ‘Oh, whoa is us. We lost. We were up 17 points in the fourth quarter to our rivals. Boo-hoo. Boo-hoo’ Ha! Losers. Outstanding. Here’s what you learned tonight: I made you. I f—king made you pathetic pieces of crap. And I can destroy you, too. And that’s exactly what I did tonight. Suck it. Suck. It.”

And with that post-game debriefing, every Patriots player learned the stunning truth: Bill Belichick had purposely sabotaged the end of the Patriots-Colts game in order to crush the spirit of his team for his own personal amusement.

“I have to get a picture of this. It’s just too sweet,” said Belichick, taking out a camera. “Come on. Everyone gather together for a team photo. Anyone who is crying get in the middle. Brady? Tommy Brady? Get in there. Someone get Brady up from in front of his locker and get him in the picture. I want that dandy to be front and center. Maybe I can sell it for the cover of a fashion magazine for losers. Oh, man. Yeah. This is great. I’m blowing this up and putting it on the wall in my office. Fourth-and-two on the 28 and we go for it! So awesome.”

After the team photo, several shocked players asked Belichick if he was just kidding. If the whole thing was an attempt, perhaps misguided, to lighten the mood in the crushed Patriots locker room.

“Kidding? Ha! Absolutely not,” he said. “No way. I made you guys lose. You were like puppets on a string out there. You really think that up by six with two minutes to go in the game I'd risk just giving the other team the ball on the 28? Only a moron would do that. Or an insane person. Or an insane moron. I mean, jeez – none of you retards got a little suspicious when I sent the play in? Really? After all this time, you really think I’m that stupid? It seemed so obvious to me. You losers are more gullible than that the ginger balls Roger Goodell.”

With those players who weren’t already crying now wailing over the betrayal by their own coach, Belichick gleefully turned the knife.

“Oh, and enjoy those three Super Bowl rings from earlier this decade while you can,” he cackled, holding his sides in laughter. “Because you won’t have them much longer. I cheated in those Super Bowls. Big time. And it’s all going to come out. Because I'm going to spill the beans on everything. That’s right – everything you have all accomplished in your careers is a sham. Everything you have worked for, sweated for, bled for … is a lie. Isn’t it hilarious?! A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh, man. I’m laughing so hard I just spit up in my mouth. I mean, Brady – did you really think you were good enough to win three Super Bowls? Really? Come on, guy. You were a sixth round draft pick, you homo. You weren't even good at Michigan. Yet all of a sudden you’re unstoppable? Nothing seemed suspicious to you? What kind of fantasy world do you live in, goat boy?”

Belichick then warned his team that none of his words were to leave the locker room.

"If anyone speaks of this, you're cut and I'll trash your name all around the league so you never get another job," he said, laughing uproariously. "Oh, man. I love my job, you stupid idiots."

[KnoxHarrington]

Ronnie used this line on today's show, and I guess it's pretty true: do you have any more of a chance to stop Manning on a 60 or 70 yard drive than on a 30 yard drive?

My answer would be yes. At least make Manning fucking work for it. Fuck, JaMarcus Russell might have been able to get the TD from there.

[underdog]

Ronnie used this line on today's show, and I guess it's pretty true: do you have any more of a chance to stop Manning on a 60 or 70 yard drive than on a 30 yard drive?

My answer would be yes. At least make Manning fucking work for it. Fuck, JaMarcus Russell might have been able to get the TD from there.

At least at 30 yards, you don't have to worry so much about one of the Colts receivers getting behind your secondary like they ALWAYS DO. It's nuts.

I think the real problem with the game is that the Patriots took their foot off the gas. Brady was torching them, and then they went back to running the ball to run out the clock and they couldn't do shit.

After 2007's playoffs, no lead is safe against the Colts. You need to blow them out.

[hammersavage]

Ronnie used this line on today's show, and I guess it's pretty true: do you have any more of a chance to stop Manning on a 60 or 70 yard drive than on a 30 yard drive?

My answer would be yes. At least make Manning fucking work for it. Fuck, JaMarcus Russell might have been able to get the TD from there.

Absolutely yes. I'd say double the chance.

The play call isn't the terrible part, the field location is.

[underdog]

Here's the last 2 TD drives for Indy before the game ender :

02:04 IND 21 5 79 Touchdown
01:49 IND 21 6 79 Touchdown

That's all you need to know for why Belichick went for it.

[cougarjake13]

Here's the last 2 TD drives for Indy before the game ender :

02:04 IND 21 5 79 Touchdown
01:49 IND 21 6 79 Touchdown

That's all you need to know for why Belichick went for it.



even still whats the chance he does it a 3rd time in a row

plus you have to play the percentages and kick it away

[weekapaugjz]

who's READY!!!

[disneyspy]

who's READY!!!

im ready! but i bet i'm not as ready as snoogans

that sumbitch is READY!

[weekapaugjz]

it's the CHOMPIONSHIP!

[weekapaugjz]

i could have had club level seats for this game tonight for free. my chick and i both decided it would be better that we both work instead of seeing this dogshit game in person.

[GregoryJoseph]

I can't remember the last time I've cared less about a game.

[weekapaugjz]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5863/snoogansmnf.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5863/snoogansmnf.jpg

best one so far, ill give you that

[underdog]

even still whats the chance he does it a 3rd time in a row

It's Peyton Manning. It's probably close to 90%.

plus you have to play the percentages and kick it away

If you had read one of the previous posts, you'd see that the percentages show that he should have gone for it. And by a rather large percentage, too.

[weekapaugjz]

Fuck jauron. I'm so glad he's out.

[KnoxHarrington]

Games on the NFL Network just seem so low-rent compared to the way they look on other networks. The graphics look thrown together, the video looks off somehow, and the announcers aren't nearly as good.

If the NFL ever wants this to be taken seriously, they've got to step up their game.

[underdog]

Games on the NFL Network just seem so low-rent compared to the way they look on other networks. The graphics look thrown together, the video looks off somehow, and the announcers aren't nearly as good.

If the NFL ever wants this to be taken seriously, they've got to step up their game.

It's the Dolphins and the Panthers. It should look low rent.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's the Dolphins and the Panthers. It should look low rent.

Very true.

Not a terrible game, though.

[hanso]

Catch Ricky catch.

[hanso]

http://i.fhqhosting.com/G%20beck%20big.jpg
The Jets new coach?



Go Jets this game to help Dolphins.

[Snoogans]

who the fuck is aaron Rouse?

[foodcourtdruide]

Snelling just walked into the endzone, literally untouched. The Giants have the worst "best defense" I have ever seen.

[Snoogans]

I know Kenny Phillips is good but jesus, could he really have been THAT good?

Pierce is out too but he is old and sucks now

[foodcourtdruide]

I know Kenny Phillips is good but jesus, could he really have been THAT good?

Pierce is out too but he is old and sucks now

They won 4 games against bad teams, and played above their heads offensively against the Cowboys. I'd be completely shocked if they made the playoffs.

[underdog]

who the fuck is aaron Rouse?


I don't know who he is but he's on my keeper team.

[Snoogans]

They won 4 games against bad teams, and played above their heads offensively against the Cowboys. I'd be completely shocked if they made the playoffs.

lookin at the sched im seriously thinkin 8-8

[Snoogans]

i can hit a 31 yard FG




Seriously

[foodcourtdruide]

omg, missed fieldgoal. I'm getting the football package next season. I can't watch anymore Jets/Giants games.

[spoon]

Brady Quinn's coming out party? Oh wait, it's Detroit. Still, a better game than most of you are watching.

[epo]

who the fuck is aaron Rouse?

A safety out of Virginia Tech, taken by Green Bay as a 3rd rounder a few years ago. Has all the physical tools, but apparently is dumb as mud. Fits the old "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" line.

[Snoogans]

A safety out of Virginia Tech, taken by Green Bay as a 3rd rounder a few years ago. Has all the physical tools, but apparently is dumb as mud. Fits the old "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" line.

thank you

[Snoogans]

the giants might actually be worse than Rutgers

[spoon]

This Detroit/Cleveland Toilet Bowl game is crazy! I'm loving it. Here comes Gvac's (HA) Lions.

[meanmrbill]

Christ, Pittsburgh FINALLY scores a touchdown.

[spoon]

Christ, Pittsburgh FINALLY scores a touchdown.

Tell their Mendenhall and their D to get me some fucking points now too!

[meanmrbill]

Tell their Mendenhall and their D to get me some fucking points now too!
Seems they've been spreading out the carries so you'll be lucky to get many points from Mendenhall today.

[spoon]

Alright, I can't believe how crazy this Detroit game has been.

[IamFogHat]

No good!

[epo]

Its the revenge of the 2005 NFL Draft! Today's numbers...

Alex Smith, 3-7 for 5 yds
Aaron Rodgers, 22-31, 274 yds, 2 TD

Obviously San Francisco made the right pick.

[spoon]

Its the revenge of the 2005 NFL Draft! Today's numbers...

Alex Smith, 3-7 for 5 yds
Aaron Rodgers, 22-31, 274 yds, 2 TD

Obviously San Francisco made the right pick.

At least San Francisco natives make good choices.....mojo style.

http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/img_8527-copy.jpg

[meanmrbill]

Alright, I can't believe how crazy this Detroit game has been.
Damn, last time I checked Cleveland was up big.....now Detroit is on top??? Wow. Battle of the shit teams turns out to be a good one.

[RhinoinMN]

Sidney Rice is good.

[meanmrbill]

Pittsburgh is trying their best to lose this game.

[epo]

Alex Smith has been great since the 49ers opened up their offense. Singletary has to get over himself & his conservative running approach and let that offense play.

[foodcourtdruide]

Alex Smith has been great since the 49ers opened up their offense. Singletary has to get over himself & his conservative running approach and let that offense play.

I agree and Crabtree looks REALLY good. He may be the real deal.

[brettmojo]

Rothlisberger is such a fucking idiot.

[epo]

I agree and Crabtree looks REALLY good. He may be the real deal.

I have no doubt that Crabtree is the real deal. With him, Vernon Davis & Frank Gore...that's a nice set of players to run an open offense.

[brettmojo]

Looks like the Giants are gonna' eek this one out.

[spoon]

That's the second STRAIGHT game Tuck cost his team late in a game (inside 2 minutes) by not getting to the sidelines. Against SD, he laid down bc of a cramp and was right back out there in a play. This time, not exactly sure what it was (seemed very similar), but again was back out there soon after.

Get to the fucking sideline you pussy. Not only did you give the other team a to on their tying/winning drives, you also nixed one of your own time outs killing any thoughts of a game-winning fg late yourself.

[foodcourtdruide]

Colts beat NE, then BAL. They are really freakin' good.

[disneyspy]

watched the cowboy game thanx to a site kevin hooked me up to,kevin fuckin rules

[KnoxHarrington]

The NFL can suck my sweaty ballsack. I got to watch maybe 20 seconds of the OT in the Steelers/Cheifs game, then they had to pull away to start the Bengals/Raiders game. So I flip over to the Giants/Falcons OT, and Fox is then forced to pull away from that game due to NFL rules...even though I don't actually have a second game on Fox today.

FUCK YOU NFL

[brettmojo]

The icing the kicker shit is really fucking gay.

And I'm not liking that Jay-Z song being played at Giants Stadium. That's a Yankees song. Be original assholes.

[disneyspy]

holy shit pass interference call against cleveland on the last play of the game

[brettmojo]

watched the cowboy game thanx to a site kevin hooked me up to,kevin fuckin rules
Lucky ass.

I was watching the score updates on CBS and kept waiting for them to just score a TD. Holy shit they win 7-6. Redskins are fucking awful, Zorn is gonna' get canned ASAFP. They deserve it, fucking racist named fucks.

[meanmrbill]

Colts beat NE, then BAL. They are really freakin' good.
Wow, Fuck-O, do ya think so????

[disneyspy]

Lucky ass.

I was watching the score updates on CBS and kept waiting for them to just score a TD. Holy shit they win 7-6. Redskins are fucking awful, Zorn is gonna' get canned ASAFP. They deserve it, fucking racist named fucks.

sending you the most awesome link in the history of awesome links

[disneyspy]

unbelievable/the lions win with no time left

[epo]

watched the cowboy game thanx to a site kevin hooked me up to,kevin fuckin rules

He may be nice, but he hardly rules.

[disneyspy]

He may be nice, but he hardly rules.

i dont know,he also hooked me up to a site that pays me a DIME TO GAMBLE!

[spoon]

Colts beat NE, then BAL. They are really freakin' good.

Suspect at best, sorry. They are a playoff team and decent, but by no means even my favorite in the AFC even being undefeated. They have a weak running game and for some reason people aren't going after Manning. In the playoffs, that's where every team will start.

Now the week can belong to the Bengals if they win (VERY LIKELY), as both Pitt (somehow) and Baltimore lost. Cincy with a win will have a 2 and game lead on both respectively, along with going 2-0 head to head versus both.

On a personal note, if SD wins (they fucking better), they erase a huge lead in the AFC West and take control. Fuck Denver and their bullshit wins vs. Cincy and NE.

[spoon]

watched the cowboy game thanx to a site kevin hooked me up to,kevin fuckin rules

Hey fuck you too! And Epo is right.

[brettmojo]

Colts beat NE, then BAL. They are really freakin' good.
If Dallas blows it before the Superbowl I'd love to watch Indy run the table just so New England can watch them do what they couldn't.

[foodcourtdruide]

Wow, Fuck-O, do ya think so????

Read spoon's comments, not everyone thinks this way.

[epo]

If Dallas blows it before the Superbowl I'd love to watch Indy run the table just so New England can watch them do what they couldn't.

IF?

[spoon]

The icing the kicker shit is really fucking gay.

And I'm not liking that Jay-Z song being played at Giants Stadium. That's a Yankees song. Be original assholes.

Yah, too easy.

[disneyspy]

Hey fuck you too! And Epo is right.

justintv is for justjons if you know what im sayin

[KnoxHarrington]

I'd be stunned if that shithouse they play in in Oakland is half full. The upper deck, in particular, is almost completely empty.

[spoon]

Sd Td

[disneyspy]

IF?

i agree,no way dallas blows it this year

[foodcourtdruide]

Suspect at best, sorry. They are a playoff team and decent, but by no means even my favorite in the AFC even being undefeated. They have a weak running game and for some reason people aren't going after Manning. In the playoffs, that's where every team will start.

Now the week can belong to the Bengals if they win (VERY LIKELY), as both Pitt (somehow) and Baltimore lost. Cincy with a win will have a 2 and game lead on both respectively, along with going 2-0 head to head versus both.

On a personal note, if SD wins (they fucking better), they erase a huge lead in the AFC West and take control. Fuck Denver and their bullshit wins vs. Cincy and NE.

I disagree. You can't accidentally beat the Patriots then the Ravens. Also, look at how they destroyed the Cardinals earlier in the year. They've played some good teams and played them well. I don't know if they'll run the table, as that just seems so hard, but they are the best team in the AFC right now.

Their defense is forcing HUGE turnovers and they have one of the top 5 QB's of all-time playing some of the best football of his career.

[epo]

i agree,no way dallas blows it this year

Gimme a break. This version of the Cowboys are a classic first round & out team.

[spoon]

justintv is for justjons if you know what im sayin

Yah, that was one of two dickbag (atdhe.net).

And why doesn't he focus on this instead of internet games and cranky attitudes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_T8MMSPiE

[foodcourtdruide]

Gimme a break. This version of the Cowboys are a classic first round & out team.

If I was a Cowboys fan every nightmare I had would involve Tony Romo.

[epo]

Yah, that was one of two dickbag (atdhe.net).

And why doesn't he focus on this instead of internet games and cranky attitudes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_T8MMSPiE

Damn you...now I'm thinking about Wampus!

[disneyspy]

If I was a Cowboys fan every nightmare I had would involve Tony Romo.

nightmare or wet dream?

[spoon]

nightmare or wet dream?

if you have to ask, ur a bdc type fan

[disneyspy]

if you have to ask, ur a bdc type fan

you take that back

[spoon]

you take that back

Come on. Liking Romo is like me loving Norv Turner as an SD fan. Sorry

[jauble]

watched the cowboy game thanx to a site kevin hooked me up to,kevin fuckin rules

Anything that has Kevin, cowboys and website in it makes me assume gay porn.


As an aside, fuck you spoony, fuck you in your powder blue asshole. LT is playing good ball again, but there is no way Marmalard is going to deliver.

[spoon]

I actually like Manning, P these days, I just don't believe they have the line play needed. Funny, it's the same reason I think the Chargers won't either. I can dream we had a GM that was smart enough to draft a good DT replacement/understudy for Jamal Williams who is now old and worn down. I love the guy, but the writing has been on the wall for the last 3 years. Hell, his injury list is tacked up there too.

[spoon]

On a side note of my own, you should give Kevin "a call".

[foodcourtdruide]

nightmare or wet dream?

I wouldn't call awkwardly losing key football games a sexual fantasy of mine.

[jauble]

I actually like Manning, P these days, I just don't believe they have the line play needed. Funny, it's the same reason I think the Chargers won't either. I can dream we had a GM that was smart enough to draft a good DT replacement/understudy for Jamal Williams who is now old and worn down. I love the guy, but the writing has been on the wall for the last 3 years. Hell, his injury list is tacked up there too.

The bottom line is they are winning games and not just on Manning's back. Our defense is so young because of injuries but they are making plays. I hated watching in previous years when the Colts would win by 20-30 points because I knew they never saw challenges. This is a tough new team overall.

[spoon]

The bottom line is they are winning games and not just on Manning's back. Our defense is so young because of injuries but they are making plays. I hated watching in previous years when the Colts would win by 20-30 points because I knew they never saw challenges. This is a tough new team overall.

The Chargers are winning too, but I highly doubt they'll go too deep on a passing game alone. I do however like the more aggressive D they've employed of late, but we'll see if they stick with it against good qbs like they need too. It's the NFL, you can't just let qbs have all day back there.

[Kevin]

The Chargers are winning too, but I highly doubt they'll go too deep on a passing game alone. I do however like the more aggressive D they've employed of late, but we'll see if they stick with it against good qbs like they need too. It's the NFL, you can't just let qbs have all day back there.



You never thanked Tom Coughlin for being dumb as dog shit and not looking to ice the game two weeks ago.

[spoon]

You never thanked Tom Coughlin for being dumb as dog shit and not looking to ice the game two weeks ago.

Oh it was a battle of two awesome minds in football.

http://nsaney.com/pics/cripple_fight.jpg

[spoon]

fuck you kyle orton

[jauble]

fuck you kyle orton

and fuck you whale.

[schmizzbo]

fuck you Buffalo Bills.

[spoon]

Hahahahahahaha!!

Nice work Denver!

Moreno fumbled it INTO the end zone. Touchback SD! (pending long review, but it's going to be tough to change the call on the field)

[spoon]

Yeahhhhhhhh!

SD's ball on the 20. 1st and 10 less than 2 to play in the 2nd qtr.

[spoon]

ANOTHER turnover for SD!

Fuck you Denver...unless it's hockey of course.

[Kevin]

Oh it was a battle of two awesome minds in football.

http://nsaney.com/pics/cripple_fight.jpg



Genius Tenbats said it was the right call because the Giants were playing good D.

Ummm no.. i counted at least 4 wide open drops SD had with acres to to run

[spoon]

Genius Tenbats said it was the right call because the Giants were playing good D.

Ummm no.. i counted at least 4 wide open drops SD had with acres to to run

Does Matty ever make sense?

[foodcourtdruide]

Does Matty ever make sense?

I'm really impressed by Sanchez, he makes some great throws. Those picks will go away with exp.

Edit: sorry didn't mean to quote you spoon

[spoon]

I'm really impressed by Sanchez, he makes some great throws. Those picks will go away with exp.

Edit: sorry didn't mean to quote you spoon

No problem. I'll just assume ur post implies the answer is no.

[spoon]

Raiders with 2 TD passes. Guess who isn't at QB!


HOLY FUCK!

And guess what, they just fumbled the kickoff. Oakland is going to win. Guess who else is going to win his survival pool!!

[GregoryJoseph]

Raiders with 2 TD passes. Guess who isn't at QB!


HOLY FUCK!

And guess what, they just fumbled the kickoff. Oakland is going to win. Guess who else is going to win his survival pool!!

GO RAIDERS!!! :thumbup: :clap:

[TheGameHHH]

15 catches for 192 yards.....Wes Welker sucks a bag of dicks

[Kevin]

15 catches for 192 yards.....Wes Welker sucks a bag of dicks

He only had like 60yds 2nd half.

What a bum.

[Tenbatsuzen]

ugh.

[Kevin]

Raiders with 2 TD passes. Guess who isn't at QB!


HOLY FUCK!

And guess what, they just fumbled the kickoff. Oakland is going to win. Guess who else is going to win his survival pool!!

Both Cinci and Pitt had major let down games against 2 awful teams.

[GregoryJoseph]

10-4 in my picks thus far...

[walking joint]

15 catches for 192 yards.....Wes Welker sucks a bag of dicks

exact reason i even checked this thread

[disneyspy]

who's ready?

[epo]

It appears that Green Bay lost 2 pro-bowlers on defense, with injuries to DE/LB Aaron Kampman and CB Al Harris that will keep them out for the rest of the season.

[spoon]

exact reason i even checked this thread

fag

[spoon]

It appears that Green Bay lost 2 pro-bowlers on defense, with injuries to DE/LB Aaron Kampman and CB Al Harris that will keep them out for the rest of the season.

As long as Rodgers keeps putting up good points (and me likey all those rushing tds) I'm a happy mofo.

[K.C.]

Cutler sucks balls...why, oh why did the Bears ever give up on the glory of Neckbeard for this overrated hack?

They should be winning this game by 30.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

can the Bears change their name to the Fighting Field Goals

[RhinoinMN]

Cutler is having major issues.

[Jughead]

Cutler is having major issues.


Mother fuck!! This was going to happen sooner or later Damn bears!!!!!!!!1

[Jughead]

Can we come back!!!!.Please dear George!!! Im staying up

[K.C.]

Can we come back!!!!.Please dear George!!! Im staying up

Unless you're praying for the return of Jeff George, not gonna happen.

[K.C.]

Why do the Eagles even waste a body covering the tight end?

Just blitz an extra guy...the linebackers can't cover anyway.

[Jughead]

Unless you're praying for the return of Jeff George, not gonna happen.

George ..you know the one that started this whole thing???

[Jughead]

Im telling ya I want them to win so bad But this team is one of the worst bear team's in the last few years!!!:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::w allbash::wallbash:

[Ritalin]

Kanye West is from Chicago, yet NBC goes
to commercial playing 25 or 6 to 4.

Fucksticks.

[K.C.]

Man, these young Eagles are incredible frustrating with some of the stupid mistakes they make (hold on to the ball!!!!), but when they play to their talent level, this team is great to watch.

Gotta give Andy some credit..Jackson, Maclin, McCoy....that's the foundation of an explosive offense for years to come. And even if McNabb leaves in a couple years, Kolb quieted some of his naysayers earlier this year.

They've drafted a lot better in recent years than they used to.

EDIT: Can't forget Avant and Celek...two more good young players. Celek should be a pro-bowler.

[K.C.]

Now, Bears fans have pretty much booed Cutler every time he's walked off the field tonight, and they uproariously cheered the ref getting smashed in a play.

If this was in Philadelphia, and they booed McNabb every time he walked off the field, and cheered the ref getting hit, ESPN would run panel discussions on the hour about how awful the fans.

You will not hear a peep about the Bears fans tonight in the media.

[underdog]

Now, Bears fans have pretty much booed Cutler every time he's walked off the field tonight, and they uproariously cheered the ref getting smashed in a play.

If this was in Philadelphia, and they booed McNabb every time he walked off the field, and cheered the ref getting hit, ESPN would run panel discussions on the hour about how awful the fans.

You will not hear a peep about the Bears fans tonight in the media.

That's because the only place that matters is the northeast.

[K.C.]

Annnnd....Cutler continues to prove he's garbage.

Good game.

Love Al Michaels comment about it being Cutler's first INT of the night, too....yeah, when you're throwing passes 40 yards over the coverage AND your receiver, you're not going to throw too many INTs.

[epo]

Its nice to see Jay Cutler come through.

[RhinoinMN]

Aren't all games "must win" games?

[spoon]

I couldn't be happening to a better qb! Suck it Cutler. Not that ur old team is doing much better tonight!

Ha!

[spoon]

Aren't all games "must win" games?

Not with pin the tail on the donkey.

[Judge Smails]

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9161/hesterbutt.jpg

[PapaBear]

Please tell me that's not real.:lol:

[RhinoinMN]

Please tell me that's not real.:lol:

Oh its real. I remember seeing it live tonight.

[PapaBear]

Oh its real. I remember seeing it live tonight.
Yeah. I just saw the youtube clip. Slow motion, too.

[keithy_19]

Yeah. I just saw the youtube clip. Slow motion, too.

That would never happen if Madden was still doing color. I blame Collinsworth.

[underdog]

I was watching the redzone channel yesterday, and they showed a play where an offensive lineman was hurt. It was bad enough that Mike Carey looked freaked out and was yelling at the bench to send someone in right away. Then about 3 minutes later, the voice over guy said that CBS said the clip was so gruesome that they wouldn't play the replay. I don't even remember what game it was (Carey was reffing).

Did anyone see this happen?

[hammersavage]

I think Matt Birk broke his dick and it filled up with dead blood.


Could be wrong

[Suspect Chin]

I think it's pretty obvious Matthew Stafford was faking the shoulder injury yesterday just so he could run back out on the field and look like a hero.

[underdog]

I think it's pretty obvious Matthew Stafford was faking the shoulder injury yesterday just so he could run back out on the field and look like a hero.

That's sarcasm, right?

[Suspect Chin]

That's sarcasm, right?

Not at all. The results came back negative today and he just looked like a drama queen yesterday after the play he got injured on and the ensuing touchdown. He threw the pass then went immediately back to clutching his arm and grimacing like a bitch.

[underdog]

Not at all. The results came back negative today and he just looked like a drama queen yesterday after the play he got injured on and the ensuing touchdown. He threw the pass then went immediately back to clutching his arm and grimacing like a bitch.

If Cleveland doesn't call a timeout, he doesn't get to come back in the game to throw the winning TD.

[Judge Smails]

I was watching the redzone channel yesterday, and they showed a play where an offensive lineman was hurt. It was bad enough that Mike Carey looked freaked out and was yelling at the bench to send someone in right away. Then about 3 minutes later, the voice over guy said that CBS said the clip was so gruesome that they wouldn't play the replay. I don't even remember what game it was (Carey was reffing).

Did anyone see this happen?


Here you go, you fucking jackal:


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[underdog]

Here you go, you fucking jackal:


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Holy shit.

They weren't kidding.

Also, you're the best.