30 Rock vs. The Office [Archive] - RonFez.net Messageboard

hammersavage

04-12-2009, 05:43 PM

Yea, British Office first but if we're talking the American, how can you not say 30 Rock?

The Office was at its best when it was just basically covering the original version. When it went past 30 or so episodes, it went downhill. I still find it funny and enjoy watching it but its not nearly as funny as 30 rock.

WampusCrandle

04-12-2009, 05:43 PM

Right now, i prefer the 30 Rock.

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 05:44 PM

Love both, but 30R is just so insane. I never want it to end wheras I want the Office to realize how finite it is, even though this season has been real strong.

Drunky McBetidont

04-12-2009, 05:45 PM

i thought this was going to be a "who would you rather bang?" thread

MacVittie

04-12-2009, 05:45 PM

The British Office

that pretty much goes without saying. i'm talking about NBC shows that are on right now.

hammersavage

04-12-2009, 05:47 PM

i thought this was going to be a "who would you rather bang?" thread

Kenneth or Creed?

WampusCrandle

04-12-2009, 06:04 PM

Kenneth or Creed?

Creed - you gotta watch your back with him; he's the best!

GreatAmericanZero

04-12-2009, 06:06 PM

Chimee

04-12-2009, 06:08 PM

I see The Office as the perfect lead-in to 30 Rock. The Office is a decent show and it's quite watchable, but if you're watching Thursday nights on NBC you're watching it for 30 Rock or at least you should be.

King Hippos Bandaid

04-12-2009, 06:08 PM

30 Rock just barely

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 06:21 PM

Drunky McBetidont

04-12-2009, 06:23 PM

how is the amy poeller show? i didn't see it, i might go to nbc.com and check it out now while i am thinking about it.

GreatAmericanZero

04-12-2009, 06:28 PM

That's because you're an anus.

am I?

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 06:29 PM

how is the amy poeller show? i didn't see it, i might go to nbc.com and check it out now while i am thinking about it.

I thought it was OK. Not the best out of the gates, but it was solid and the show has such a good cast that I can't imagine it wouldn't get better. Aziz is already hysterical.

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 06:30 PM

am I?

Only an anus would ever want to watch anything on CBS.

Shit, I don't even know what's on CBS Monday nights, but I know it sucks.

grlNIN

04-12-2009, 06:31 PM

how is the amy poeller show? i didn't see it, i might go to nbc.com and check it out now while i am thinking about it.

I watched 5 minutes of it, wasn't impressed.

spoon

04-12-2009, 06:31 PM

am I?

Yes.

Oh and thanks for repeating Mr. Bennington's view on the shows. You and Hammer are pretty good at following. Good for you.

GreatAmericanZero

04-12-2009, 06:32 PM

Only an anus would ever want to watch anything on CBS.

Shit, I don't even know what's on CBS Monday nights, but I know it sucks.

i didnt say i want to watch anything on CBS. I said i would RATHER watch cbs than the american "office" because i find that show to be so unfunny that the only comedy comparable is cbs monday night shitfest

GreatAmericanZero

04-12-2009, 06:33 PM

Yes.

Oh and thanks for repeating Mr. Bennington's view on the shows. You and Hammer are pretty good at following. Good for you.

i thought Ron said he liked "the office"

spoon

04-12-2009, 06:33 PM

30 Rock just barely

I can't believe I agree with Hippo, but they are pretty damn close. I'd have to say it swings in favor of different shows season to season so far.

K.C.

04-12-2009, 06:34 PM

30 Rock is good, although I'm about five or six episodes behind right now, because I just haven't had time to catch up.

I pretty much gave up on The Office (U.S.) at the beginning of Season 4. It's pretty unwatchable at this point. But it did have three solid seasons...that's more than you can say for most shows these days.

Office (U.K.) is a masterpiece.

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 06:35 PM

i didnt say i want to watch anything on CBS. I said i would RATHER watch cbs than the american "office" because i find that show to be so unfunny that the only comedy comparable is cbs monday night shitfest

Anus.

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 06:36 PM

I pretty much gave up on The Office (U.S.) at the beginning of Season 4. It's pretty unwatchable at this point.

Seriously, you should give it shot again. The first part of the season was definitely weaker, but the current storyline is really strong.

King Hippos Bandaid

04-12-2009, 06:54 PM

I can't believe I agree with Hippo, but they are pretty damn close. I'd have to say it swings in favor of different shows season to season so far.

we agree that the Yankees suck and Kevin is gay

also I picked up Snider, figured id let you know, I dropped Jacoby Ellsbury, so he better step up

K.C.

04-12-2009, 06:57 PM

Seriously, you should give it shot again. The first part of the season was definitely weaker, but the current storyline is really strong.

I'm sure I'll be looking for something to watch this summer after Lost's season ends. I'll probably check out a couple episodes from this season then.

Slumbag

04-12-2009, 07:07 PM

I pretty much gave up on The Office (U.S.) at the beginning of Season 4. It's pretty unwatchable at this point. But it did have three solid seasons...that's more than you can say for most shows these days.

Office (U.K.) is a masterpiece.
I agree with you totally.
The main problem with US Office is it has simply been on for too long. They don't have anything else to talk about, so now the storyline's are completely ridiculous. They generally have one GREAT joke an episode, and the rest of the shoe is zany hijinks.

I'm gonna give it to 30 Rock easily.

Drunky McBetidont

04-12-2009, 07:07 PM

i just watched parks and recreation pilot on nbc.com. it was ok, her boss (i think the director) is the best character. "Bobbie Knight!!" aziz is funny too.

the thing is, with this show and the office, it just reminds me of those "special" episodes of mash, where the camera crew was there and they kinda acted like they were being taped so it seemed real.

spoon

04-12-2009, 07:11 PM

we agree that the Yankees suck and Kevin is gay

also I picked up Snider, figured id let you know, I dropped Jacoby Ellsbury, so he better step up

To beat Ellsbury, he'll just have to play....it's not even a question. He'll get a decent amount of starts early, but look for him to get tons of time by May. Wait it out, it'll be worth it.

K.C.

04-12-2009, 07:12 PM

I agree with you totally.
The main problem with US Office is it has simply been on for too long. They don't have anything else to talk about, so now the storyline's are completely ridiculous. They generally have one GREAT joke an episode, and the rest of the shoe is zany hijinks.

My biggest problem was that Michael went from functionally retarded (like David Brent) to retarded retarded.

It went from the original premise that he was a guy who was so desperate to be liked and awkward about it, to him just being completely stupid.

FezsAssistant

04-12-2009, 07:16 PM

I'll have to go with The Office considering...

1. I've never laughed at 30 Rock

2. Tina Fey looks like a mosquito and makes my dick go up inside my body.

TheMojoPin

04-12-2009, 07:19 PM

My biggest problem was that Michael went from functionally retarded (like David Brent) to retarded retarded.

It went from the original premise that he was a guy who was so desperate to be liked and awkward about it, to him just being completely stupid.

See, I don't think Brent ever seemed functional on any level when it came to his job. To me, that was always the biggest flaw of the UK version. The US version has always done a very good job of showing Michael to be someone who was and is an excellent salesman but is just all wrong for management. I don't buy that Brent could have ever been good as a salesman because he's so smarmy and so unlikable. Michael is stupid and awkward but there are still times where he is personable and you can see how he was so good at his old job. I love the UK version, but Brent never got anything out of me besides dislike and pity.

WampusCrandle

04-12-2009, 07:21 PM

See, I don't think Brent ever seemed functional on any level when it came to his job. To me, that was always the biggest flaw of the UK version. The US version has always done a very good job of showing Michael to be someone who was and is an excellent salesman but is just all wrong for management. I don't buy that Brent could have ever been good as a salesman because he's so smarmy and so unlikable. Michael is stupid and awkward but there are still times where he is personable and you can see how he was so good at his old job. I love the UK version, but to be Brent never got anything out of me besides dislike and pity.

i have to agree with you - plus, if you had to choose one of them to be friends with, I doubt anyone would choose David over Michael.

underdog

04-12-2009, 07:23 PM

how is the amy poeller show? i didn't see it, i might go to nbc.com and check it out now while i am thinking about it.

It was a decent pilot. You learned about the characters, but that was basically it. It has a chance to be a very strong show.

Yes.

Oh and thanks for repeating Mr. Bennington's view on the shows. You and Hammer are pretty good at following. Good for you.

Mr. Bennington likes CBS shows? I don't think that's correct at all. You're just attacking for the sake of attacking at this point.

I'll have to go with The Office considering...

1. I've never laughed at 30 Rock

2. Tina Fey looks like a mosquito and makes my dick go up inside my body.

Shocking.

FezsAssistant

04-12-2009, 07:29 PM

I wanted to like the Amy Poehler show.
Unfortunately, it was unwatchable. I kept fast forwarding on my DVR.

I'll give it one more shot, but it's hard to watch another show where all men are dumb assholes and the women have hearts of gold, are harder workers and are always a little smarter in the end.

Quincy Jones' daughter should have her own show.

Kevin

04-12-2009, 07:47 PM

Its a tough choice.

I picked 30 by a very slim margin.

underdog

04-12-2009, 07:52 PM

I'll give it one more shot, but it's hard to watch another show where all men are dumb assholes and the women have hearts of gold, are harder workers and are always a little smarter in the end.

I'm pretty sure you skipped over the entire show.

Although, you also don't think 30 Rock is funny, so your ability to grasp anything is in serious question.

WampusCrandle

04-12-2009, 07:58 PM

I'm pretty sure you skipped over the entire show.

Although, you also don't think 30 Rock is funny, so your ability to grasp anything is in serious question.

QFT?

Fallon

04-12-2009, 08:26 PM

30 Rock, so many obscure jokes that they float by.

MacVittie

04-12-2009, 08:33 PM

30 Rock, so many obscure jokes that they float by.

Agreed. To me, 30 Rock is the closest thing to Arrested Development on network television right now.

Slumbag

04-12-2009, 08:37 PM

Agreed. To me, 30 Rock is the closest thing to Arrested Development on network television right now.

There's no need to blaspheme.

30 Rock is good, but it's not great.

Drunky McBetidont

04-12-2009, 08:39 PM

There's no need to blaspheme.

30 Rock is good, but it's not great.

god damn right!

CruelCircus

04-12-2009, 08:47 PM

"Better Off Ted" had me laughing out loud a couple of times this week.

Does that help?

underdog

04-12-2009, 08:51 PM

Agreed. To me, 30 Rock is the closest thing to Arrested Development on network television right now.

I seem to agree :

This has to be the most intelligent show on tv right now, right?

The finale was perfect.

This show constantly reminds me of Arrested Development. From the stupid to intelligent humor, the constant shots at the republicans in charge, and the ever existing fear of being canceled at any time.

TheGameHHH

04-12-2009, 09:06 PM

30 Rock, so many obscure jokes that they float by.

yes, and the people that dont get or dont laugh at 30 Rock simply don't pay attention.

i gotta go with 30 Rock, even though The Office is actually funny again.

MacVittie

04-12-2009, 09:13 PM

There's no need to blaspheme.

30 Rock is good, but it's not great.

I didn't say they were in the same league, just that 30 Rock is the closest.

spoon

04-12-2009, 10:00 PM

Mr. Bennington likes CBS shows? I don't think that's correct at all. You're just attacking for the sake of attacking at this point.

Yes, bc that's the point I was talking about. The useless diatribe over the overall theme of his/their message, of course. I know THAT'S not correct one bit. You knew exactly what I meant, just as he did.

drusilla

04-12-2009, 10:07 PM

i haven't been able to watch any of the office. i really love steve carrell too, but for some reason i just couldn't ever get into it. 30 rock all the way.

Pestz4Evah

04-12-2009, 11:22 PM

30 Rock by a large margin.

Season 2 of The Office was AMAZING, but I stopped watching part way thru season 3.

GreatAmericanZero

04-13-2009, 03:56 AM

I agree with you totally.
The main problem with US Office is it has simply been on for too long. They don't have anything else to talk about, so now the storyline's are completely ridiculous. They generally have one GREAT joke an episode, and the rest of the shoe is zany hijinks.

i think thats a big part of it. Early on it was trying to be like real people at a workplace, but the longer it goes on the more they have to give everyone personalities and expand on them and they are just annoying now. Every character on that show annoys me and they all feel so unrealistic. It was so much better when the background characters were just that, people to react to stuff.

drjoek

04-13-2009, 04:18 AM

i'll probably take any show on CBS Monday night over "The Office" these days. I think "30 Rock" is slightly missing a step by focusing more on Liz's personal life over working on the show but "30 Rock" is still a good show, i can't watch 5 mins of American "Office" anymore

Big Bang Theory,
How I Met Your Mother
Two and a Half Men
Rules Of Engagement
CSI: Miami

That's because you're an anus.

Only an anus would ever want to watch anything on CBS.

Shit, I don't even know what's on CBS Monday nights, but I know it sucks.

Advantage Mojo

As for the poll right now 30 Rock over Office
It would be ALOT closer for me if the poll was 30 Rock vs the Office the first two seasons

A.J.

04-13-2009, 04:24 AM

Only an anus would ever want to watch anything on CBS.

It's people like you who drove Jay Mohr away!

disneyspy

04-13-2009, 04:59 AM

anybody that says the american office or office-uk is an anus,we know what show we're talkin about and tina fey is the third hottest chick on tv,the elishas arrrrrrrrr

underdog

04-13-2009, 05:59 AM

Yes, bc that's the point I was talking about. The useless diatribe over the overall theme of his/their message, of course. I know THAT'S not correct one bit. You knew exactly what I meant, just as he did.

I really had no idea what you were referring to.