There's a new Neckbeard in town (Bears get Cutler!)

[hammersavage]

Bears acquire Jay Cutler.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373)

[Disaster]

Espn is reporting that Cutler had been traded to the Bears story isnt on there website yet so dont know what it cost the Bears yet.

[TheMojoPin]

No fucking way.

Wow.

Did not expect that to happen.

QB taken care of...now only about haf a dozen other spots need to be pulled from disaster.

*Sigh*

[razorboy]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article

First and third this year, first next year and neckbeard.

Edit: The merge made that redundant.

[TheMojoPin]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

The Bears acquired quarterback Jay Cutler today for No. 1 draft picks in 2009 and 2010, a No. 3 pick this year and Kyle Orton, the Sun-Times has learned. The Bears receive the Broncos' fifth-round draft pick this year.

WHY GOD, WHY?!?!

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[HBox]

There's a new neckbeard in town

I don't want to hear it!

[HBox]

The Bears acquired quarterback Jay Cutler today for No. 1 draft picks in 2009 and 2010, a No. 3 pick this year and Kyle Orton, the Sun-Times has learned. The Bears receive the Broncos' fifth-round draft pick this year.

At least they didn't overpay.

[hammersavage]

That's a ton to give up. But its the best arm in the league. Maybe not the best all around QB, but one of the best arms I've ever seen.


Solid defense, awesome special teams, great running back, Hester has some value, good pass catching TE.



They need to draft a WR and sure up the defense. Hard to do with fewer picks.

[IMSlacker]

At least they didn't overpay.

It's Rick Mirer, part 2. I hate Jerry Angelos.

edit: ok, it's not that bad. I just hate giving up so many draft picks.

[Snoogans]

I understand Orton is garbage. But 2 1's, a 3 plus Orton? That seems a bit too much

[TheMojoPin]

Pretty much all the sports talk here was saying it would take Orton, 2 1st's and at least a 3rd to get him, and that's exactly how it went down. It's a lot to give up, but they still have their 2nd and 3rd picks in a draft that's deep in several of the key spots they need.

I'm just stunned the Bears have a real franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime. Holy crap.

Besides, Angelos almost always fucks up his 1st round picks.

[hammersavage]

I understand Orton is garbage. But 2 1's, a 3 plus Orton? That seems a bit too much

Changed it up.

To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, a source said.

To complete the trade, the Broncos had to give back a third-round pick in 2009.

[Snoogans]

Pretty much all the sports talk here was saying it would take Orton, 2 1st's and at least a 3rd to get him, and that's exactly how it went down. It's a lot to give up, but they still have their 2nd and 3rd picks in a draft that's deep in several of the key spots they need.

I'm just stunned the Bears have a real franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime. Holy crap.

Dont get too excited about it. He is now a Bear. Doesnt that mean he kinda has to start to blow?

[Snoogans]

ok cutler and a 3 for orton and 2 1's isnt that bad

[HBox]

Pretty much all the sports talk here was saying it would take Orton, 2 1st's and at least a 3rd to get him, and that's exactly how it went down. It's a lot to give up, but they still have their 2nd and 3rd picks in a draft that's deep in several of the key spots they need.

I'm just stunned the Bears have a real franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime. Holy crap.

And he worked out so well for Denver!

[hammersavage]

And now they have the 49th pick, 3 third round picks (84, 99) and what they acquired.

You can get value there. Not the same but someone like Underwood or another comparable WR.

[hammersavage]

ok cutler and a 3 for orton and 2 1's isnt that bad

I think that's very fair and like I said, they have multiple 3rd round picks. They can get bodies.

[Snoogans]

And now they have the 49th pick, 3 third round picks (84, 99) and what they acquired.

You can get value there. Not the same but someone like Underwood or another comparable WR.

Underwood was projected undrafted before the combine. He might last as late as the 4th round. You can get a very solid receiver at 49 or trade the 49 and one of the 3rd round picks to move up to the front of round 2. Alot of options now, they could even trade back into the 1st

[epo]

I understand Orton is garbage. But 2 1's, a 3 plus Orton? That seems a bit too much

I'll miss Orton.

[Snoogans]

I'll miss Orton.

you guys should sign him for the 3rd QB role behind Brohm

[hammersavage]

Denver's 3rd round pick was 79. So they have 49, 79, 84 and 99. 4 in the top 100. They can make up for the loss of the 1's if they are smart.

[epo]

you guys should sign him for the 3rd QB role behind Brohm

I'm fine with Matt Flynn as the 3rd stringer.

[TheMojoPin]

And he worked out so well for Denver!

Eh, the defense he had there was horrible. He's got the talent ad the Bears have him for 3 years. I'm VERY happy.

[Snoogans]

Denver's 3rd round pick was 79. So they have 49, 79, 84 and 99. 4 in the top 100. They can make up for the loss of the 1's if they are smart.

you can prob turn the 49 and 99 into like the 33rd-40th pick or turn the 49 79 and a later pick into a late first rounder

[epo]

Mark it down: When the Bears miss the playoffs this next year, Lovie Smith will be fired.

[epo]

you can prob turn the 49 and 99 into like the 33rd-40th pick or turn the 49 79 and a later pick into a late first rounder

Work the NFL Draft Pick Value Chart (http://pit.scout.com/a.z?s=68&p=3&blipid=14689)!

[TheMojoPin]

Mark it down: When the Bears miss the playoffs this next year, Lovie Smith will be fired.

Maybe he'll just be demoted to the defensive coordinator where he belongs and they'll get a real head coach.

[Snoogans]

Work the NFL Draft Pick Value Chart (http://pit.scout.com/a.z?s=68&p=3&blipid=14689)!

thats from 06, that could be different based on talent

[epo]

thats from 06, that could be different based on talent

I've never seen the chart change....just the perception of the player value.

[razorboy]

Eh, the defense he had there was horrible. He's got the talent ad the Bears have him for 3 years. I'm VERY happy.

Don't kid yourself into thinking Bus Cook hadn't already told the Bears a new contract is highly advised to be part of the deal.

[Snoogans]

I've never seen the chart change....just the perception of the player value.

the talent overall in the draft and where its waited changes the value of the picks

[SP1!]

Pretty much all the sports talk here was saying it would take Orton, 2 1st's and at least a 3rd to get him, and that's exactly how it went down. It's a lot to give up, but they still have their 2nd and 3rd picks in a draft that's deep in several of the key spots they need.

I'm just stunned the Bears have a real franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime. Holy crap.

Besides, Angelos almost always fucks up his 1st round picks.

I love how some denver fans were talking just the other day about how they are glad to get rid of him, after they see orton in action they will be begging to have cutler back. Chicago fans should be excited to have someone like cutler being able to throw to hester down the field, now if he can just catch the ball.

And for everyone bitching about giving up number ones, I think most of the pats dynasty teams the past few years was built by stockpiling a ton of 2nd and 3rd round picks.

[hammersavage]

Now this no neck nerd John Clayton says its back to what was originally reported. Cutler and a 5th for Orton, 2 1's and a 3. So not as good a deal but still.

[Aaron Rodgers]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

WHY GOD, WHY?!?!



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So long retard.

[hammersavage]

Now they got Orlando Pace to protect him. Good move even though he is getting up there in age.

[TheMojoPin]

Don't kid yourself into thinking Bus Cook hadn't already told the Bears a new contract is highly advised to be part of the deal.

Works for me.

[SP1!]

Wow and did the bears also get orlando pace? Another receiver or a running back that can catch coming out of the backfield and the bears will be vastly improved next year, viking fans are probably really nervous now.

Dammit hammer!

[Snoogans]

Wow and did the bears also get orlando pace? Another receiver or a running back that can catch coming out of the backfield and the bears will be vastly improved next year, viking fans are probably really nervous now.

Dammit hammer!

Viking fans are nervous for what? They have Tavaras Jackson. They aint winnin shit anyway

[underdog]

I think most of the pats dynasty teams the past few years was built by stockpiling a ton of 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Richard Seymour
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Brandon Meriweather
Jerod Mayo

The Patriots have built their defense in the 1st round.

But they also draft REALLY well in other places. But a 1st rounder is pretty important (or early 2nd rounder). Giving up 1st rounders will put you in the class of the Redskins.

[Snoogans]

Giants have done quite well with 2nd through 4th round picks the past few years too

[Kevin]

I hope HTG puts him into a diabetic coma with her Cupcakes

[KidNothing]

im not sure how i feel....on one hand Bears get a solid QB in Cutler but who the hell is gonna throw it to? Or who is gonna protect him? However, the bears do usually draft shitty in the first round....As a Bears fan, i like the trade but im still nervous...hopefully they draft well.

[TheMojoPin]

im not sure how i feel....on one hand Bears get a solid QB in Cutler but who the hell is gonna throw it to? Or who is gonna protect him? However, the bears do usually draft shitty in the first round....As a Bears fan, i like the trade but im still nervous...hopefully they draft well.

They just got Pace, too.

It's not like they need everything fixed now. The Bears will likely still be crappy in 2009. The plus of this is that Cutler is only 25 and will be around for a long time as they rebuild.

[TheMojoPin]

I willllll rememmmmmberrr yoooooooooou....

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/ortonrock.jpg

[SP1!]

Viking fans are nervous for what? They have Tavaras Jackson. They aint winnin shit anyway

Thats racist sir, you should embrace your black QB. I know a few viking fans and they think he will help them, its amazing since hes terrible at reads only they refuse to see that fact.

[PigShitIrish]

I willllll rememmmmmberrr yoooooooooou....

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/ortonrock.jpg

He looks a little like Clegg in that pic. All he needs is spray paint stains around his mouth.

[Ritalin]

No fucking way.

Wow.

Did not expect that to happen.

QB taken care of...now only about haf a dozen other spots need to be pulled from disaster.

*Sigh*

C'mon, Little Miss Sunshine! We finally got ourselves a real, legit, proven in the NFL QB and you're moaning about 6 other positions?

Buck the fuck up.

Edit: you pulled it around.

[sailor]

I'm just stunned the Bears have a real franchise QB for the first time in my lifetime. Holy crap.

did you start posting here when you were 13?

http://www.nomansblog.com/wp-content/themes/3ColumnK2/images/mcmahon.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Come on, get serious. Jim was the man, but he was typical of what the Bears have settled for in a QB for decades: a guy that's decent but not a plus QB. Jim was not a guy you build a team around like Cutler is. He's a guy you settle for when you have Payton and a defense that amazing.

[underdog]

did you start posting here when you were 13?

Didn't you read his old posts today?

[TheMojoPin]

Didn't you read his old posts today?

Et tu, Underdog?

[Jughead]

Mark it down: When the Bears miss the playoffs this next year, Lovie Smith will be fired.

Hater:thumbdown::bye:

[SP1!]

Come on, get serious. Jim was the man, but he was typical of what the Bears have settled for in a QB for decades: a guy that's decent but not a plus QB. Jim was not a guy you build a team around like Cutler is. He's a guy you settle for when you have Payton and a defense that amazing.

Wow, I have agreed with mojo twice in under two weeks, the world may end soon.

McMahon was decent but he was in no way a franchise QB.

[Jughead]

Christ he is from Santa Claus, Indiana...Bears Win

[KnoxHarrington]

Wow, I have agreed with mojo twice in under two weeks, the world may end soon.

McMahon was decent but he was in no way a franchise QB.

Yeah, he was the archetypal "game manager" at QB: just go out there and don't fuck up, because it's the defense that's going to win this for us, not the offense.

The forerunner to Trent Dilfer, in other words.

[hammersavage]

Insulin sales through the roof in the Second City already.

[sailor]

Come on, get serious. Jim was the man, but he was typical of what the Bears have settled for in a QB for decades: a guy that's decent but not a plus QB. Jim was not a guy you build a team around like Cutler is. He's a guy you settle for when you have Payton and a defense that amazing.

hey, a career 78.2 qb rating is nothing to sneeze at!

[burrben]

as a denver fan, im not too unhappy with getting orton. he played decent in the shitty bears offense last year.

and bears fans, cutler's good between the 20's but he stinks in the redzone. and that was with a half dozen good targets. hes jake plummer with a stronger arm and less success.

i miss jake plummer. he won games.

[SP1!]

as a denver fan, im not too unhappy with getting orton. he played decent in the shitty bears offense last year.
Yeah say that after the first 6-7 games, orton is terrible. Imagine vicks head but having zero accuracy, that is orton, not can he not throw very deep, he cant hit target that are wide open.

By mid season bronco fans will be dying to have cutler back.

[Freitag]

I'm still trying to figure out why people are mocking the Jets because they didn't get Cutler. This is the year of the great Ratliff/Clemens/Pat White* experiment. If the Jets gave up that much to get Cutler, there would be blood in the streets.

Good job by the Jets, IMHO. Especially since Cutler would be torn to shreds by the media here.





*please God, Please.

[Snoogans]

I'm still trying to figure out why people are mocking the Jets because they didn't get Cutler. This is the year of the great Ratliff/Clemens/Pat White* experiment. If the Jets gave up that much to get Cutler, there would be blood in the streets.

Good job by the Jets, IMHO. Especially since Cutler would be torn to shreds by the media here.





*please God, Please.

You are probably gonna draft that kid from K State

[burrben]

Yeah say that after the first 6-7 games, orton is terrible. Imagine vicks head but having zero accuracy, that is orton, not can he not throw very deep, he cant hit target that are wide open.

By mid season bronco fans will be dying to have cutler back.

youre probs right, but mcdaniels says he has a system and he seems high on orton (until they turn around and draft dirty shanchez) so i'll give orton a shot. orton IS tied for most passing yards in a game for purdue. he can air it out, and denver has receivers and a solid o-line

[Ritalin]

I always felt that Orton got a bum rap in Chicago, frankly. He's a coach's kid, has a great attitude and works hard. He doesn't have a cannon, but I thought he got the job done until he got hurt. He had no great receiver last year, and the line is average at best.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did pretty well in Denver. He doesn't have Cutler's physical upside, but I think if he was given a chance with a decent offensive package he could be in the top half of QBs in the league.

[TheMojoPin]

I always felt that Orton got a bum rap in Chicago, frankly. He's a coach's kid, has a great attitude and works hard. He doesn't have a cannon, but I thought he got the job done until he got hurt. He had no great receiver last year, and the line is average at best.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did pretty well in Denver. He doesn't have Cutler's physical upside, but I think if he was given a chance with a decent offensive package he could be in the top half of QBs in the league.

I don't think he got a bum rap here at all. People made fun of how goofy he looked and his post-game activities, but his press was mostly positive and the fans, for the most part, really liked him. Every realized what he was: a solid QB and a good team leader but not a gamechanger. He was an ideal version of the typical Bears QB.

[TheMojoPin]

Damn, signing Burress would have been nice to compliment this. No way that happens after they released Tank, plus Plax is probably not playing in 2009.

[cougarjake13]

Damn, signing Burress would have been nice to compliment this. No way that happens after they released Tank, plus Plax is probably not playing in 2009.

all reports show that similar charges plead down still got the offender one yr in jail

so unless in the next few months burress and the lawyers can get that changed he wont play til the 2010 season

[TheMojoPin]

all reports show that similar charges plead down still got the offender one yr in jail

so unless in the next few months burress and the lawyers can get that changed he wont play til the 2010 season

Even if he somehow escaped jail time, there's no way he wouldn't face anything less than an 8-game suspension at the very least.

[TheMojoPin]

I mentioned earlier how giving up the two #1 picks doesn't bug me at all because Angelos has been so shitty with his 1st round picks. I finally spotted an editorial that sums up exactly why I feel that way:

The Bears finally have the quarterback they've longed for. If anyone thinks the Bears paid too much, let me show you the 14 men who have been first-round picks for the Bears in the last 15 drafts: John Thierry, Rashaan Salaam, Walt Harris, Curtis Enis, Cade McNown, Brian Urlacher, David Terrell, Marc Colombo, Michael Haynes, Rex Grossman, Tommie Harris, Cedric Benson, Greg Olsen, Chris Williams. Let's eliminate judging the last two, from 2007 and 2008, because they don't have enough on their résumés yet. Let's look at the other 12.

Stars: 1 (Urlacher).

Very good NFL starters: 1 (Tommie Harris).

NFL starters: 2 (Walt Harris, Marc Colombo).

Had some moments, but ultimately failed: 3 (Grossman, Thierry, Haynes).

Busts: 5 (Salaam, Enis, McNown, Terrell, Benson).

Four of the 12 became consistent NFL starters, or better. An awful, awful track record. That is why Angelo, a career scout who has too often loved draft picks more than A-Rod loves himself, wasn't very emotional talking to me about what he gave up.

Granted, both Olsen and Williams could easily fall into the starters or even very good starters categories, but even then that's a pretty horrid track record with that many 1st round picks.

[razorboy]

Insulin sales through the roof in the Second City already.

Tequila sales as well.

[burrben]

i might be a drunk, but i like kyle orton more and more every day

[SP1!]

i might be a drunk, but i like kyle orton more and more every day

You havent seen him play very much, have you? The worst starting QB in the NFL last year.

[Ritalin]

i might be a drunk, but i like kyle orton more and more every day

You havent seen him play very much, have you? The worst starting QB in the NFL last year.

Crazy talk.

[hammersavage]

You havent seen him play very much, have you? The worst starting QB in the NFL last year.

That's just uninformed nonsense.

[epo]

You havent seen him play very much, have you? The worst starting QB in the NFL last year.

That's crazytalk. He was the 2nd best QB in his division behind Rodgers.

[underdog]

That's just uninformed nonsense.

that statement has been used after a SP1! post so often.

[TheMojoPin]

Cutler and Greg Olsen already bonding in Chicago:

http://notqualifiedtocomment.com/wp-content/uploads/jay-greg.jpg

I'll bet the sex was amazing.

PS - Cutler needs a neckbeard to hide his fat neck.

[razorboy]

Diabetes and heavy drinking. Always a VEEERRRRRY healthy combination.

[cougarjake13]

Cutler and Greg Olsen already bonding in Chicago:

http://notqualifiedtocomment.com/wp-content/uploads/jay-greg.jpg

I'll bet the sex was amazing.

PS - Cutler needs a neckbeard to hide his fat neck.




omg thats seriously fucking gay

[Ritalin]

There are too many cameras in the world.

You don't think there could have been the same exact picture with Billy Martin and Mickey Mantle if there were picture phones back then?

[TheMojoPin]

There are too many cameras in the world.

You don't think there could have been the same exact picture with Billy Martin and Mickey Mantle if there were picture phones back then?

And I'm sure Billy slobbered Mick's knob like a pro, too.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh God.

I just messed my pants.

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[Ritalin]

Hey, look Mojo!

We got us a quarterback!

(now if we could only find someone for him to throw it to, then we'd really be in business)

[cougarjake13]

was your cutler 6 jersey on back order mojo ?? or did you get it already ??

[TheMojoPin]

was your cutler 6 jersey on back order mojo ?? or did you get it already ??

I've already got it, but my Neckbeard jersey will aways be first in my heart.

[TheMojoPin]

Hey, look Mojo!

We got us a quarterback!

(now if we could only find someone for him to throw it to, then we'd really be in business)

Yeah, ideally they need to get a lockdown #1 receiver, but I can live with what they have in the meantime. It's not the best situation, but he's got several decent options.

[burrben]

I've already got it, but my Neckbeard jersey will aways be first in my heart.

i saw a guy at a bar with a cutler bears jersey and as a broncos fan it broke my heart

[burrben]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090419/capt.b96f99ab53fc408f87978cfa11bfecd9.broncos_mini camp_football_codz104.jpg
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[TheMojoPin]

Holy shit, he looks awkward to be alive without the beard.

KYLE, GROW IT BACK!

[Ritalin]

I realize as I'm watching this exhibition game that I've never seen cutler play before. Holy shit is this going
to be fun.

And if I can give a sleeper fantasy pick? Earl Bennett. He may not be great, but he's going get a good chance
to catch passes.