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Wow, how much did stern pay this reporter for him to run this ad for him?
Howard Stern has proven irreplaceable on radio (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_howard_stern_has_proven_irreplaceable_on-1.html)
Howie jumped out of a sinking ship that was already 3/4ths sunk, but this guy acts like howie leaving bankrupted the entire industry.
drjoek
03-28-2009, 10:15 AM
Who the Fuck is Howard Stern?
Hottub
03-28-2009, 10:17 AM
Who the Fuck is Howard Stern?
http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/howardk_stern.jpg
WampusCrandle
03-28-2009, 10:17 AM
Who the Fuck is Howard Stern?
correct
Freakshow
03-28-2009, 11:15 AM
the Junkies on WJFK are the last of the Stern replacements, not Carolla.
GreatAmericanZero
03-28-2009, 11:20 AM
Wow, how much did stern pay this reporter for him to run this ad for him?
Howard Stern has proven irreplaceable on radio (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_howard_stern_has_proven_irreplaceable_on-1.html)
Howie jumped out of a sinking ship that was already 3/4ths sunk, but this guy acts like howie leaving bankrupted the entire industry.
either way, it was waaaaaaaaaay smart of howard to jump out of that sinking ship
a lot smarter than the radio show who thinks they can go on the sinking ship and bring it back up
spoon
03-28-2009, 11:35 AM
Do I think KRock would have fallen totally if Stern stayed? No
Do I think it would have taken a hit in this new market? Sure
The bottom line is Hinckley is just ass licking any old time radio host, again.
Foster
03-28-2009, 12:01 PM
either way, it was waaaaaaaaaay smart of howard to jump out of that sinking ship
a lot smarter than the radio show who thinks they can go on the sinking ship and bring it back up
so the radio show you're mentioning should have just past on the CBS job all together or should they have just said " yeah we're trying the terrestrial radio thing, but we expect to fail"?
whether you liked the CBS show or not you can't knock O&A or R&F for giving it a shot.
It's is true to a point.
That article completely neglects in mentioning that 'no one could replace what Stern did for 20 years' that most of what Stern used to do in the 80s and 90s, he just couldn't do today on radio.
But I do think there's validity to the point that his audience just disappeared overnight.
The funny thing about this, though, is this article will show up again in another two years, when Stern leaves Sirius, saying the same thing about him and satellite radio.
...never mind the fact that satellite radio is pretty much bankrupt right now.
whether you liked the CBS show or not you can't knock O&A or R&F for giving it a shot.
Ron & Fez? No.
But O&A did go on, and on, and on, and on about terrestrial radio sucking and how no one would succeed in that job, and then took the job.
Do I think KRock would have fallen totally if Stern stayed? No
Do I think it would have taken a hit in this new market? Sure
The bottom line is Hinckley is just ass licking any old time radio host, again.
It probably would have since it was dying while he was there, his ratings were in decline and syndication wasnt getting the money it previously was, I think he had people tune into him more out of habit than out of entertainment in the later years so if he comes back he would be about where OnA were in the ratings.
Krock is trying to change to match what is selling now just like they changed while stern was there to play alternative, its a desperation move for a station who cant hold an audience after their morning show. He acts like he has millions of rabid fans and thought 20 million would sign up to hear him but that didnt happen, just like most of his video shit hasnt made money.
pennington
03-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Howard Stern has proven irrelevant on radio
Fixed it for you.
I don't wish the guy harm, but can't he just quietly go away and not bother us anymore?
Phild
03-28-2009, 02:06 PM
Who?
FezsAssistant
03-28-2009, 02:13 PM
either way, it was waaaaaaaaaay smart of howard to jump out of that sinking ship
a lot smarter than the radio show who thinks they can go on the sinking ship and bring it back up
(looking for brownie points from R&F)
Contra
03-28-2009, 02:35 PM
They couldn't replace him? I didn't realize 92.3 stopped broadcasting in the morning.
spoon
03-28-2009, 03:00 PM
They couldn't replace him? I didn't realize 92.3 stopped broadcasting in the morning.
Come on though, u can't say it wasn't perfect to get Stern in the morning (his true fitting slot), O/A in the afternoon and R/F late nights. I fucking loved it, all without any need for subs or anything else. Thank God for the XL channel my ass, I miss that lineup and all the fights to be honest. FM is dead though bc of stupid formats of repetition and no variety due to corporate control of multiple channels since the fall of the antitrust laws involving media outlets. It's that simple.
led37zep
03-28-2009, 03:03 PM
Lets ignore how the radio landscape and market has totally changed and just take this article at face value.
Its easier to live life without facts and background.
Contra
03-28-2009, 05:27 PM
That was the dream lineup spoon, no denying that
torker
03-28-2009, 05:42 PM
His leaving FM was a clear mark of delineation. His success could neither be replicated or sustained. Howard wins.:sad:
NewYorkDragons80
03-28-2009, 06:00 PM
whether you liked the CBS show or not you can't knock O&A or R&F for giving it a shot.
I don't know about anybody else, but I thought the CBS R&F show was excellent. Not to mention the fact that they were second after one book.
TripleSkeet
03-28-2009, 09:12 PM
Come on though, u can't say it wasn't perfect to get Stern in the morning (his true fitting slot), O/A in the afternoon and R/F late nights. I fucking loved it, all without any need for subs or anything else. Thank God for the XL channel my ass, I miss that lineup and all the fights to be honest. FM is dead though bc of stupid formats of repetition and no variety due to corporate control of multiple channels since the fall of the antitrust laws involving media outlets. It's that simple.
Yea that was a great lineup......in 2002.
Out of those 3 shows Ron & Fez are the only ones that could do the same show they did then without getting kicked off the radio.
Howard Stern leaving didnt kill FM talk radio. The ridiculously "stricter then the FCC" guidelines put together by the companies corporate lawyers combined with alternatives like Ipods and the internet killed FM talk radio.
And I dont fault O & A one bit for taking the money CBS was offering. Even though it didnt work they still made a boatload. Youd have to be a dumb fuck to turn that money down.
DolaMight
03-28-2009, 09:21 PM
I just farted in a can, sealed it, and mailed it to david hinkley.
NickyL0885
03-28-2009, 09:31 PM
Howard is still good IMO. Lets be honest if he retired and never went to Sirius, satillite radio would be dead, not on life support like it is now. He brought people along, which you cant deny. He may not have the same audience he had on regular radio but its still good. Hes been worth all the money. He not only does a good show, but he promotes it, as does his crew. Meanwhile, Oprah got what? $55 million and has not once mentioned XM-Sirius.
Devo37
03-28-2009, 09:36 PM
CBS (and most stations) seems to be way too far into instant results. they only gave David Lee Roth a few months before they panicked and brought back O&A. they only gave a few months after that before they scrapped the "FreeFM" thing. Now they've switched to a terrible Top-40 format that is un-listenable.
how can any station develop a following when it's constantly flipping formats?!?
p.s. the amount of money that CBS has paid (and is still paying) for people to NOT be on the air must be staggering!
p.p.s. f#ck corporate radio!!! let's get some mom & pop stations back on the air where the dj's who know music actually choose their playlists!
TripleSkeet
03-28-2009, 09:38 PM
Howard is still good IMO. Lets be honest if he retired and never went to Sirius, satillite radio would be dead, not on life support like it is now. He brought people along, which you cant deny. He may not have the same audience he had on regular radio but its still good. Hes been worth all the money. He not only does a good show, but he promotes it, as does his crew. Meanwhile, Oprah got what? $55 million and has not once mentioned XM-Sirius.
He has not brought Sirius $500 million. Thats a fact. They overpaid. They overpaid Oprah too. Along with alot of other satellite talent.
TooLowBrow
03-28-2009, 09:42 PM
He has not brought Sirius $500 million. Thats a fact. They overpaid. They overpaid Oprah too. Along with alot of other satellite talent.
but stern and oprah's names DID bring the name sirius into the limelight. sirius now means satellite radio and not the dog star. even if they fail, they'll have that
Devo37
03-28-2009, 09:54 PM
He has not brought Sirius $500 million.
the Hoo-Hoo Howie contract was ridiculous, and they'll be paying for it for dozens of years to come. grabbing a major name to get subscribers was a good idea, but the amount they paid him was out of control. trying to pay off that single contract could have been the end of satellite radio if DirectTV didn't step in.
Howard is still good IMO. Lets be honest if he retired and never went to Sirius, satillite radio would be dead, not on life support like it is now. He brought people along, which you cant deny. He may not have the same audience he had on regular radio but its still good. Hes been worth all the money. He not only does a good show, but he promotes it, as does his crew. Meanwhile, Oprah got what? $55 million and has not once mentioned XM-Sirius.
No satellite wouldnt be dead, if you remember XM has always led in the subs department and that was even with sirius cheating and counting unsold cars as subs, he didnt bring in nearly as many people as he or his fans think, hell his cable show has zero people watching it and they paid a lot of money for that shit.
And did you really compare oprah to howie? Please, one can make or break a book, TV series, or movie and the other works 4 days a week then flies out to the hamptons. You can bet once his contract is up he will be gone and there will barely be a blip on the subscriber numbers.
but stern and oprah's names DID bring the name sirius into the limelight. sirius now means satellite radio and not the dog star. even if they fail, they'll have that
XM signed oprah, not sirius.
CBS (and most stations) seems to be way too far into instant results. they only gave David Lee Roth a few months before they panicked and brought back O&A. they only gave a few months after that before they scrapped the "FreeFM" thing. Now they've switched to a terrible Top-40 format that is un-listenable.
how can any station develop a following when it's constantly flipping formats?!?
p.s. the amount of money that CBS has paid (and is still paying) for people to NOT be on the air must be staggering!
p.p.s. f#ck corporate radio!!! let's get some mom & pop stations back on the air where the dj's who know music actually choose their playlists!
Yeah they want results and they want them now, its fucking stupid. If I remember wasnt free fm doing better in the ratings than their music flip? And I thought ron and fez was killing in the ratings during that time when fez had some of his best shows.
I really would love to see them repeal the rule that allows corporations to own multiple stations so we could quit seeing these generic shit stations with zero culture to them anymore.
Devo37
03-28-2009, 10:35 PM
And I thought ron and fez was killing in the ratings during that time when fez had some of his best shows..
if i remember right, R&F got some major ratings during their first ratings-period on FreeFM.
Fez was great on the FreeFM shows. even on days where he had 'issues' on the XM side, he was always on fire on the FreeFM shows!
TooLowBrow
03-28-2009, 11:28 PM
XM signed oprah, not sirius.
anyway oprah only really pimps skype
Bob Impact
03-29-2009, 05:48 AM
And did you really compare oprah to howie? Please, one can make or break a book, TV series, or movie and the other works 4 days a week then flies out to the hamptons. You can bet once his contract is up he will be gone and there will barely be a blip on the subscriber numbers.
You're right, you can't compare the effect they had on subscriber numbers, Howard had an effect, Oprah had zero effect.
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-xm_subscribers.gif
denko
03-29-2009, 06:21 AM
that chart would mean something if it had ANY information besides the years on it, however, things are looking good for 4007!
Doctor Z
03-29-2009, 06:43 AM
"Irreplaceable" or not, I think the REAL news story here is that Howard apparently has AIDS.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/26/asm_stern.jpg
Contra
03-29-2009, 07:11 AM
That's not AIDS, that's Beth sucking the life out of him.
STC-Dub
03-29-2009, 08:07 AM
I don't know about anybody else, but I thought the CBS R&F show was excellent. Not to mention the fact that they were second after one book.
The FM show was very good. Different than the XM show, but still a good show.
You're right, you can't compare the effect they had on subscriber numbers, Howard had an effect, Oprah had zero effect.
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-xm_subscribers.gif
Thats about when sirius started counted all those unsold vehicles as sold sirius units to make people think stern had millions of subs added just for him, it still fell way short of the 20 million that he said would sign up. He had very little effect on the sales of sirius units in the overall picture and even when he leaves there will be no dramatic downturn in subs.
The FM show was very good. Better than the XM show.
Fixed, less ESD made it a greater show, imagine that.
pennington
03-29-2009, 10:46 AM
"Irreplaceable" or not, I think the REAL news story here is that Howard apparently has AIDS.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/26/asm_stern.jpg
It's that curly wig Howard has been wearing for a few years that really makes him look sick. Either that or he has a hero:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4QoQlJtLSfM/RdlW4JbErkI/AAAAAAAAARA/j5R-xMwKKlQ/s400/Sideshowbob.jpg
Bob Impact
03-29-2009, 11:00 AM
Thats about when sirius started counted all those unsold vehicles as sold sirius units to make people think stern had millions of subs added just for him, it still fell way short of the 20 million that he said would sign up. He had very little effect on the sales of sirius units in the overall picture and even when he leaves there will be no dramatic downturn in subs.
Fixed, less ESD made it a greater show, imagine that.
Let's get this completely straight: I HATE Stern, but I also worked retail in a place that sold XM and Sirius units. I NEVER once had someone come in and ask for the service "With O & A or Oprah" I had many many people come in and ask for Howard Stern. Did he add nearly as many as they credit him for? No, but as far as I know Sirius always counted unsold cars as subscribers, well before Stern. There would also be very obvious single point spike if that was the case. I would love to see some proof of this car theory.
ONCE AGAIN - as Freakshow pointed out, WJFK's replacement show, The Junkies, are still on the air, unlike the rest of CBS' replacements shows. WJFK is one of the first "guy talk" stations on FM, and they are one of the last. They may not be burning up the ratings by any stretch of the imagination, but they have a solid audience and seem to be a good fit for the morning.
And with regards to Howard on sat-rad, when I had my XM car unit at least once, sometimes twice a week, I would encounter interference from people with Sirius, and it didn't matter what time of the day it was, they were listening to Stern.
The guy that killed Anna Nicole Smith?
tanless1
03-30-2009, 10:22 AM
yep, 500 million is a huge reason they are bankrupt. if comapanies wldnt agree to these contracts, the talent wld work for less. got to be willing to walk away from the table.
Gerald
03-30-2009, 10:29 AM
I don't know why his fans still have this sense of entitlement about how he's the center of the broadcast universe. His show just isn't that funny anymore, despite the freedom with content. He's still recycling bits from the early 90's and wallowing in self congratulation for being so brilliant. And the drama among the staff feels strangely contrived. Even though I'm obviously biased I still firmly believe they're not nearly as funny as O&A and not nearly as compelling as R&F. I got the best of Sirius with the intention of maybe getting back into him since I was a fan in the late 90's when he a had a brief stint in my market but I haven't been able to do it - I can only handle a small dose of it before I punch out. I think he's living on borrowed time and coasting by on reputation fumes.
TripleSkeet
03-30-2009, 01:21 PM
but stern and oprah's names DID bring the name sirius into the limelight. sirius now means satellite radio and not the dog star. even if they fail, they'll have that
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NewYorkDragons80
03-30-2009, 02:08 PM
The FM show was very good. Different than the XM show, but still a good show.
It just proves that if things don't work out, they wouldn't have a problem resurfacing at another station (other than the whole pesky radio implosion getting in the way)
torker
03-30-2009, 02:15 PM
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Drunky McBetidont
03-30-2009, 02:31 PM
My morning drive to work:
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THERE IS A VOID!!!
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