I don't think Fez really has his own opinions....

[utriculus!]

To preface this claim: I love Fez. A lot. When he's on point he's hilarious, and when he's all thrown off he's still radio gold. One of my favorite entertainment personalities to exist in my lifetime.



To get to the point: I started to notice that Fez doesn't seem to have an opinion based on thoughts he's had regarding the matter being discussed. Rather, his opinions seem to be based on the collective cynicism of popular culture.

He doesn't seem to be aware of pop culture at large, but does seem to have an amazing ability to parrot the talking points of various figureheads. Sometimes they're liberal, sometimes conservative, but in general I've never heard Fez have an opinion that I hadn't heard somewhere else.

Just wondering what anyone else thinks about this.

PS- Seriously, I <3 Todd.

[Gvac]

I miss the old devoutly Lutheran, Log Cabin Republican Fez.

He was the best.

[drjoek]

Fez is the best.
I enjoy everything he says and does.
Please leave the psychoanalysis to the ones Fez already has.

[Gvac]

Fez is the best.
I enjoy everything he says and does.
Please leave the psychoanalysis to the ones Fez already has.

I think you forgot you weren't logged in as Compliment-Guy.

[GreatAmericanZero]

so you would rather have Fez act differently than he does on the show you enjoy (and enjoy him on) and throw off the dynamic of the show? i don't get it

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I could never conjur up enough opinions for 3 hours each and every day. I honestly don't know how Ronny does it, but I don't hold it against Fez. I don't have a lot of stong opinions either. :annoyed:

[Gvac]

so you would rather have Fez act differently than he does on the show you enjoy (and enjoy him on) and throw off the dynamic of the show? i don't get it

No, he never said that. He made an observation (while pointing out multiple times just how much he loves Fez just so people wouldn't shit on him) and asked others what their opinion was.

Have we gotten to the point where if anyone dares raise a question about Ron and/or Fez they're a "hater"?

I hope not.

[GreatAmericanZero]

No, he never said that. He made an observation (while pointing out multiple times just how much he loves Fez just so people wouldn't shit on him) and asked others what their opinion was.

Have we gotten to the point where if anyone dares raise a question about Ron and/or Fez they're a "hater"?

I hope not.

this thread is totally judging and shitting on Fez and his role on the show. its basically calling him a phony. If someone said the same thing about you as he said about Fez you'd be totally insulted

[Gvac]

To preface this claim: I love Fez. A lot. When he's on point he's hilarious, and when he's all thrown off he's still radio gold. One of my favorite entertainment personalities to exist in my lifetime.



To get to the point: I started to notice that Fez doesn't seem to have an opinion based on thoughts he's had regarding the matter being discussed. Rather, his opinions seem to be based on the collective cynicism of popular culture.

He doesn't seem to be aware of pop culture at large, but does seem to have an amazing ability to parrot the talking points of various figureheads. Sometimes they're liberal, sometimes conservative, but in general I've never heard Fez have an opinion that I hadn't heard somewhere else.

Just wondering what anyone else thinks about this.

PS- Seriously, I <3 Todd.


Really?

[Dell]

Why do you less than 3 Fez? I'm not up on the latest... is that a sexual reference?
I think the Fez character basis a lot of his opinion from personal experiences and not so much from pop culture... and I also heart Fez

[Gvac]

I'll also say that anyone who disagrees with uticulus! doesn't listen too closely to the show. Ron makes an almost daily work out of reversing Fez's position on a subject, only to turn him back again, illustrating that Fez doesn't really have a strong opinion on anything, despite what he initially believes.

Oh, and here's some shocking news -

Sometimes I don't agree with everything Ron says!

Sometimes I think Fez has off days!

Sometimes I think Dave swings and misses!

Oh the horror!

I'm not a true fan, I guess.

[Bob Impact]

I'll also say that anyone who disagrees with uticulus! doesn't listen too closely to the show. Ron makes an almost daily work out of reversing Fez's position on a subject, only to turn him back again, illustrating that Fez doesn't really have a strong opinion on anything, despite what he initially believes.

Oh, and here's some shocking news -

Sometimes I don't agree with everything Ron says!

Sometimes I think Fez has off days!

Sometimes I think Dave swings and misses!

Oh the horror!

I'm not a true fan, I guess.
HATER! BLOODY TAMPON!

Wait, wrong show.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I think you forgot you weren't logged in as Compliment-Guy.

FUCKING FACED!! JOEK FUCKING OUTED!! GVAC SEZ: FUCK OFF DOC MY TOOTH HURTS

[WhateverMJ]

I think everyone on the show has their own opinions, but Ron has such a strong personality (not to say he's a bully), he manages to whip everyone to his side with his persuasive view points.

I find myself disagreeing with an angle Ron takes sometimes and hearing Fez's crumbling defenses and I want to call in and yell at them to get spines and try to express themselves more clearly, but unfortunately I can only listen on replays.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I'll also say that anyone who disagrees with uticulus! doesn't listen too closely to the show. Ron makes an almost daily work out of reversing Fez's position on a subject, only to turn him back again, illustrating that Fez doesn't really have a strong opinion on anything, despite what he initially believes.

Oh, and here's some shocking news -

Sometimes I don't agree with everything Ron says!

Sometimes I think Fez has off days!

Sometimes I think Dave swings and misses!

Oh the horror!

I'm not a true fan, I guess.

say it ain't so champ

say - it - aint - so

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I think everyone on the show has their own opinions, but Ron has such a strong personality (not to say he's a bully), he manages to whip everyone to his side with his persuasive view points.

I find myself disagreeing with an angle Ron takes sometimes and hearing Fez's crumbling defenses and I want to call in and yell at them to get spines and try to express themselves more clearly, but unfortunately I can only listen on replays.

if it makes you feel any better, even if you did call, they'd fucking ignore you and it'd be as if you were never born

[Dell]

FUCKING FACED!! JOEK FUCKING OUTED!! GVAC SEZ: FUCK OFF DOC MY TOOTH HURTS

I thought Lenny was Chuckwagoncook, Rube, Complement Guy and Insult Guy. I didn't think he was DrJoeK or that DrJoeK was them... :blink: ... maybe I'm RUBE...

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I thought Lenny was Chuckwagoncook, Rube, Complement Guy and Insult Guy. I didn't think he was DrJoeK or that DrJoeK was them... :blink: ... maybe I'm RUBE...

Bottom line, Greg rolled up his shirt sleeves and gave the dentist a good ol' face-in-the-mud fucking then pissed "Gvac wuz here" on the doc's burning ass

utter poetry

[Knowledged_one]

I'll also say that anyone who disagrees with uticulus! doesn't listen too closely to the show. Ron makes an almost daily work out of reversing Fez's position on a subject, only to turn him back again, illustrating that Fez doesn't really have a strong opinion on anything, despite what he initially believes.

Oh, and here's some shocking news -

Sometimes I don't agree with everything Ron says!

Sometimes I think Fez has off days!

Sometimes I think Dave swings and misses!

Oh the horror!

I'm not a true fan, I guess.

so you dont like kool-aid

[The Nature Boy]

I think Fez probably lost some of his grounding in life when he questioned God. Now, it was probably for his greater long term good, but to go through that sort of change in your late 50's is tough.

By contrast, I think its being rediscovered in his stances on gay issues, which I find to be very defined and positive, at least in terms of his support for gay rights. His adovcacy is clear, defined for him, and purposeful, and you'll see its one of the few issues where Ronnie throws sliders at him that he stays unflappable.

He's in some transition, but the rest will come.

Or not, I love him either way.

[drjoek]

I thought Lenny was Chuckwagoncook, Rube, Complement Guy and Insult Guy. I didn't think he was DrJoeK or that DrJoeK was them... :blink: ... maybe I'm RUBE...



I Am The Lord Thy God.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I Am The Lord Thy God.

if so, then Gvac is Satan and we now know that Evil>Good

[Knowledged_one]

I always heard doctors had a god complex

[utriculus!]

so you would rather have Fez act differently than he does on the show you enjoy (and enjoy him on) and throw off the dynamic of the show? i don't get it

I don't think a discussion needs to result in a change. I'm simply opening up a conversation.

I'm not one of those guys who wants to come onto a forum and bitch about the way the show runs. I think the way Fez works is very beneficial to me entertainment, but I also see a pattern that may create an entertaining peripheral discussion.

I fail to see how the two things need to be mutually exclusive.

[utriculus!]

Why do you less than 3 Fez? I'm not up on the latest... is that a sexual reference?
:lol::lol: I can't deny that this made me laugh

[lleeder]

I hope utriculus! changes his name to Bizzaro Gaz.

[Drunky McBetidont]

oh, here comes fez with his o pin ion. god i miss that drop. sleeves is gold. fez is sweet and nice.

[lleeder]

oh, here comes fez with his o pin ion. god i miss that drop. sleeves is gold. fez is sweet and nice.

They played it yesterday around 1. Fez seems to have an opinion on me.

[underdog]

oh, here comes fez with his o pin ion. god i miss that drop. sleeves is gold. fez is sweet and nice.

It got played a lot on Tuesday.

[Dell]

Bottom line, Greg rolled up his shirt sleeves and gave the dentist a good ol' face-in-the-mud fucking then pissed "Gvac wuz here" on the doc's burning ass

utter poetry

oh... okay...

[Dell]

I Am The Lord Thy God.

so... you are saying you are a Lenny character...

[drjoek]

so... you are saying you are a Lenny character...



I am the lizard king. I can do anything.

[utriculus!]

I hope utriculus! changes his name to Bizzaro Gaz.

Oh lleeder, did you want the spotlight forever on asking fez about the taste of cum you show hater?

[utriculus!]

oh, here comes fez with his o pin ion. god i miss that drop. sleeves is gold. fez is sweet and nice.

Seriously. Whenever I'm bored in life I put an AMATV mp3 on my iPod. My chick wants me to find Sleeves in NH since we're so close so we can hang out with him.



I might just devolve into stalker status and do it!

[hydee]

I think Fez probably lost some of his grounding in life when he questioned God. Now, it was probably for his greater long term good, but to go through that sort of change in your late 50's is tough.

By contrast, I think its being rediscovered in his stances on gay issues, which I find to be very defined and positive, at least in terms of his support for gay rights. His adovcacy is clear, defined for him, and purposeful, and you'll see its one of the few issues where Ronnie throws sliders at him that he stays unflappable.

He's in some transition, but the rest will come.

Or not, I love him either way.

Fez losing his faith should have been the best thing for him. I just think he did it so late in life that the transition has been rough. I was very lucky to shake the abuse of religion early ( at 19 ) so it has been easier for me.

I honestly don't know why other people force religion on children and then wonder why later in life you become lost when you realize it's all phony.

[TjM]

Fez losing his faith should have been the best thing for him. I just think he did it so late in life that the transition has been rough. I was very lucky to shake the abuse of religion early ( at 19 ) so it has been easier for me.

I honestly don't know why other people force religion on children and then wonder why later in life you become lost when you realize it's all phony.

Says the godless French Canadian heathen

[AnnoyedGrunt]

The fact Fez watches wrestling, reads comics and hangs out in a certain area of New York means at least some of his tastes are different from the vast majority of people.

[utriculus!]

The fact Fez watches wrestling, reads comics and hangs out in a certain area of New York means at least some of his tastes are different from the vast majority of people.

Oh he definitely has personal preferences and interests, but I think that's different.

If something doesn't directly involve him he seems to just pull from a reservoir of talking points that he's heard elsewhere. It's usually some sort of cynical rationale.