The "I don't like other women" Argument

[IamPixie]

So I saw this quote by Mischa Barton online today:

"I hang out with a lot of guy friends. Men are more straightforward than women. There is no bullshit.

Whenever a female complains about not being able to get along with other women it's a huge red flag to me. Some many times in my life I've heard " I only hang with dudes cause girls are so bitchy, mean etc..."

Don't get me wrong, women can be bitchy,mean and cruel- but so can men. Ladies who have this mentality (from my experience) tend to need to be the center of attention and are genuinely threatened by another female presence. I may be biased because I grew up predominately female household (1 males 5 female) but I put a lot of value in the female relationships I have made throughout my life.

Just my 2 cents.

[britneypablo]

So I saw this quote by Mischa Barton online today:



Whenever a female complains about not being able to get along with other women it's a huge red flag to me. Some many times in my life I've heard " I only hang with dudes cause girls are so bitchy, mean etc..."

Don't get me wrong, women can be bitchy,mean and cruel- but so can men. Ladies who have this mentality (from my experience) tend to need to be the center of attention and are genuinely threatened by another female presence. I may be biased because I grew up predominately female household (1 males 5 female) but I put a lot of value in the female relationships I have made throughout my life.

Just my 2 cents.

<font color="deeppink"> I totally agree with you one this one....and im a walkin example of it....i dont tend to get along with other girls bc i get bored by them too fast, why because they dont make me center of attention....and im probably one of the biggest attention whores i know...so i always like to try to have female friends, but i find myself making less effort towards them bc i feel very shallow in the relationship....the only way for me to get along with a girl is for me to truely truely care about them and have them seem like they do towards me also...but as i am gettin older i have been realizing ive ignored all my friends and im sad about it so i am makin an effort to reconnect and connect with new girlie friends

but yea your so right on that

[RoseBlood]

So I saw this quote by Mischa Barton online today:



Whenever a female complains about not being able to get along with other women it's a huge red flag to me. Some many times in my life I've heard " I only hang with dudes cause girls are so bitchy, mean etc..."

Don't get me wrong, women can be bitchy,mean and cruel- but so can men. Ladies who have this mentality (from my experience) tend to need to be the center of attention and are genuinely threatened by another female presence. I may be biased because I grew up predominately female household (1 males 5 female) but I put a lot of value in the female relationships I have made throughout my life.

Just my 2 cents.

I'm sooo glad you posted this as you have a great point and i completely agree. While most of what Mischa says may be true, I think it's a cop out to use the bitchiness arguement as a way of not being able to keep any female friends. Women may play games and have agendas, but men are no angels either in terms of keeping a platonic relationship with them.

It is a red flag when a girl has zero female friends, there is usually a reason for that. Sure we've all lost a couple of friends, whether male or female over jealousy and insecurity, but if you are a decent person with something to offer both sexes and not giving other females reasons to feel threatened by them (outside of things beyond your control) then there is no reason why you can't have female friends.

I think it's unhealthy to exclusively have friends of only one gender.

[hammersavage]

Well there are some chicks who hang out with men because they are tomboys and feel more comfortable in that environment.

But most of them just want to feel wanted and when you are constantly surrounded by horny guys, they feel better about themselves.

[zildjian361]

Brit how do you type in pink

[Tenbatsuzen]

Um, isn't Mischa Barton totally out of her fucking mind? She threw away her career doing drugs and shit.

I have a lot of female and male friends. My wife doesn't have a lot of female friends. I haven't explored that, but she basically implied the same thing that Mischa did.

[RoseBlood]

How can she say with men there is no bullshit?
She means there is none of a very specific type of bullshit.
When a guy acts like he cares about how your relationship with your current boyfriend is going when he really is only an opportunistic fuck waiting for you to see the light and dump said b.f.. BULLSHIT metere.. high!

[paulisded]

Well, for the most part I don't like hanging out with guys. Big surprise, I know.

[IamPixie]

I have a lot of female and male friends. My wife doesn't have a lot of female friends. I haven't explored that, but she basically implied the same thing that Mischa did.

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[britneypablo]

Brit how do you type in pink

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i just type font color="deeppink" and i put that inside a < and a >
if i type it out to tell u it will just be invisible but thats how i do it but if u want a color u just can click on the A at the top of ur post area but i dont do that bc i type in codes alot faster than i click on things just bc i know so many different ones

no hijack...sooooo

i think a year ago you could have put a red flag over my head...but its not that other females dont wanna hang with me, i just dont put forth an effort bc they are boring to me they rarely share the same kind of humor...which is why i like rfnet girls alot too bad none live close..........but right now i admit i dont hang with many girls....but i also dont hang with much of anyone....and i think i end up hanging out with mostly guys now bc my brothers are the only ones who come over anymore and they bring mostly guys with them.....

[Tenbatsuzen]

me


Let's see.

You ask a question, saying people like Mischa throw up red flags.

I provide a counterpoint, saying that my wife agrees with Mischa, and is certainly not the center of attention.

Now, act like a mature fucking adult and we can have a conversation.

[RoseBlood]

This all comes back to Mischa just being sore that some papparazzi photographed her showing cellulite.

[hammersavage]

How can she be anorexic and have cellulite? She's an enigma wrapped in a drug riddled, no talent whore.

[IamPixie]

Let's see.

You ask a question, saying people like Mischa throw up red flags.

I provide a counterpoint, saying that my wife agrees with Mischa, and is certainly not the center of attention.

Now, act like a mature fucking adult and we can have a conversation.

You don't have a pussy=I don't give a shit what you have to say. If Liz has an opinion she can post here as soon as she's good and ready. And there is no question in my original post whatsoever.

[hammersavage]

You don't have a pussy=I don't give shit what you have to say.

Ignore my posts then too cuz I've been vagina free for years.

[IamPixie]

Ignore my posts then too cuz I've been vagina free for years.

I care about your POV, hammer.

[britneypablo]

<font color="deeppink"> i think i want to have a Pablo,Pixie,Rose,Aggie outting....i think it would be the best girl pal fun ever .... :)

[RoseBlood]

You don't have a pussy=I don't give a shit what you have to say.

:glurps:

[RoseBlood]

<font color="deeppink"> i think i want to have a Pablo,Pixie,Rose,Aggie outting....i think it would be the best girl pal fun ever .... :)

Lemon Party Part Deux!!!!

[JerseyRich]

This thread is fun.

[IamPixie]

:glurps:

lemme correct myself:you are matty=I don't give a shit what you have to say

[Gvac]

I had an ex-girlfriend that would do nothing but trash every woman we hung out with when we were alone, but when the whole gang was together she was all smiles and doled out hugs and kisses like she missed them every second they were away.

It really does say a lot about a woman and her insecurities when she acts like that.

[britneypablo]

Lemon Party Part Deux!!!!

<font color="deeppink">
i was thinkin something more like 4 girls one cup

[MacVittie]

in effect, posting on RonFez.net makes you a lot like Mischa: you're socializing in an environment that is predominantly male. I don't know that I would go so far to say that this is a straightforward, "no bullshit" environment, though.

[Foster]

This thread is fun.

and insightful

[RoseBlood]

<font color="deeppink">
i was thinkin something more like 4 girls one cup
I'm starting my high-fiber diet tomorrow, might want to make that cup a bowl.

[JerseyRich]

I'm gassy as hell.

[Tenbatsuzen]

edit: never mind. thread is worthless.

[britneypablo]

It's amazing how you started off this thread with a blanket analysis of women who don't want to be friendly with other women, and then you go off when I counter that my wife - who goes against you theory that they want to be the center of attention - doesn't want to be friends with other women.

And then you tell me that when Liz will post, you'll accept her argument?

What part of "Liz doesn't like talking to other women" is hard to fucking understand?

My point, what I was trying to say originally, is that Liz isn't friends with a lot of women. And the female friends I have are the only ones she really accepts outside of her post-college circle of friends.


<font color="deeppink"> slow down a little....this aggression is making me not able to follow the point here :)

[IamPixie]

It's amazing how you started off this thread with a blanket analysis of women who don't want to be friendly with other women, and then you go off when I counter that my wife - who goes against you theory that they want to be the center of attention - doesn't want to be friends with other women.

And then you tell me that when Liz will post, you'll accept her argument?

What part of "Liz doesn't like talking to other women" is hard to fucking understand?

My point, what I was trying to say originally, is that Liz isn't friends with a lot of women. And the female friends I have are the only ones she really accepts outside of her post-college circle of friends.

What's so hard to understand about that? She's a grown woman and she can speak on her own behalf. Now stop following me from thread to thread and quoting me like some message board stalker.

[RoseBlood]

I'm gassy as hell.

underachiever

[instrument]

An attractive girl surrounding herself with men is a great way to escape reality.

[~Katja~]

<font color="deeppink"> i think i want to have a Pablo,Pixie,Rose,Aggie outting....i think it would be the best girl pal fun ever .... :)
:(

Lemon Party Part Deux!!!!

they are not old enough to fall into that category.



I think it is a matter of age and your situation and personal confidence.
I used to hang out mostly with guys but I was always insecure about myself and felt like I did not fit with the other girls and their interests.

As I got older I have found a bunch of good female friends, and what makes them great is that they have a similar sense of humor, don't take themselves too serious and will tell me to shut up when I cross a line as much as I will be completely honest with them... at this stage in my life (and theirs) is no more room or need for jealousy of any kind and that makes it a lot easier.
When you are younger it is much more of a competition to be the prettiest, hippest, bets dressed... and the list goes on... it's a shallow world.
Hope she grows out of it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm gassy as hell.

I had white castle. My brother and I were joys to be around about an hour ago.

[britneypablo]

:(




<font color="deeppink"> I LITERALLY YELLED OH NO I FORGOT GOT KATJA and i forgot Misteriosa AHHHHHHHHHHHHH im a shit head <3

[spoon]

Well my girlfriend.....jk

It truly is a bs argument in my mind. If you can't get along with a whole sex, something is truly wrong in your own corner if you ask me. Surely there are differences between the sexes in general in all different areas, but there are also those that don't follow the norms.

I've had relationships with women in the past like Gvac described in his post. Safe to say those relationships didn't last, bc I truly can't stand someone not being true. I'm not saying be a straight up asshole in public to those you don't see eye to eye with, but surely don't act as if you're as close as can be. It's simply catty and playing both sides of the fence. If she/he is willing to do this with one type of relationship, who's to say it isn't happening in all of them (including yours). Sorry, that's an easy red flag and get out moment for me.

Overall, it's a bs cover to hide an issue with that person's ability to have solid relationships within their own sex.

On the other side of the coin, (and I'm not trying to change the topic here, just add to it) if a guy says the equivalent about other guys, does it usually means they're gay? Comments like that really aren't common with guys are they?

[~Katja~]

I'm gassy as hell.

I had white castle. My brother and I were joys to be around about an hour ago.

this is why as you grow older you start appreciating female friends again.

[mikeyboy]

I've had relationships with women in the past like Gvac

:tongue:

[spoon]

:tongue:

Ha! If only, if only...... hhhmmmmmmmmm

[britneypablo]

Well my girlfriend.....jk

It truly is a bs argument in my mind. If you can't get along with a whole sex, something is truly wrong in your own corner if you ask me. Surely there are differences between the sexes in general in all different areas, but there are also those that don't follow the norms.

I've had relationships with women in the past like Gvac described in his post. Safe to say those relationships didn't last, bc I truly can't stand someone not being true. I'm not saying be a straight up asshole in public to those you don't see eye to eye with, but surely don't act as if you're as close as can be. It's simply catty and playing both sides of the fence. If she/he is willing to do this with one type of relationship, who's to say it isn't happening in all of them (including yours). Sorry, that's an easy red flag and get out moment for me.

Overall, it's a bs cover to hide an issue with that person's ability to have solid relationships within their own sex.

On the other side of the coin, (and I'm not trying to change the topic here, just add to it) if a guy says the equivalent about other guys, does it usually means they're gay? Comments like that really aren't common with guys are they?


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oh Θεός you are so insightful

[Thebazile78]

What's so hard to understand about that? She's a grown woman and she can speak on her own behalf.

Thanks for reminding him, exactly the same way I did, that I am a big girl, have my own login and can respond in this thread when and or if I feel like it.

I willingly admit that I haven't got a lot of patience for some types of girls, like the ones who'll back-stab you every chance they get because they're not confident, so I don't have a lot of close female friends because of those experiences making me a great deal more cautious around women. (One of those fucktwats has been cyber-stalking me through that shit-service Reunion.com, by the way. I haven't talked to her in over 15 years because she was a self-centered doucherag at the time I stopped talking to her ... and she hasn't changed a bit since.)

What I have found with women is, if they perceive you as a threat to their standing, they'll trust you about as far as they can throw you. Fuck, my best female friend from college and I became friends after (1) we started hanging out at work and (2) she realized I wasn't out to steal her boyfriend.

But, being a "Daddy's Girl", and having females-to-males in our household outnumbered 3:2 after my mother moved out, I simply found it easier to relate to males because we cracked the same kinds of sick jokes and I didn't glare at my guy-friends when they stared at other girls' asses. I've encouraged several of my guy friends to pursue romantic relationships that they kept psyching themselves out of because I just want them to be happy.

I think a number of my platonic guy-friendships may have actually started because one or the other of us had a crush on the other one ... but we couldn't think of the other one in a romantic way, so we just started a friendship because we had so much else in common.

(Oh, and I think that it really helps that I like comic books. It's a very rare guy who will want to fuck a girl who reads comics, and rarer still is the guy who reads comics who's fuckable, so it worked out.)

[Tenbatsuzen]

(Oh, and I think that it really helps that I like comic books. It's a very rare guy who will want to fuck a girl who reads comics, and rarer still is the guy who reads comics who's fuckable, so it worked out.)



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[Ritalin]

This thread is so high school.

[drusilla]

i never really had many chick friends. growing up i really wasn't that happy with the people i got stuck growing up around, but they were my circle of friends. as i got older i was just always more comfortable around dudes. my mom was a tomboy, as was my aunt. & i was raised with brothers & all male cousins. just the way my sense of humor & interests developed as i got older, i always bonded a lot easier with guys. in high school i had like one really close friend that was female & more that were male. same for college. i actually never really had close female friends until i got older. until i found the o&a/r&f boards really. they brought me some of the closest female friends i've ever had. i guess it has a lot to do with personal interests.

[silera]

I'm with dru on this. The best female friends I've made have been through the boards. I don't know if it was age, or humor or just common interests. I always had good female friends though.

One thing that has ALWAYS grated my nerves is the chick that makes guy friends and then tells their girlfriends "I thought you'd hate me". This happened to me once, with some chick on alkey's pool league. I wouldn't have hated her except for that moment because she basically outed herself.

[IamPixie]

Liz, Drusilla, Silera...I have a question. When your friend pool is predominately male have you ever found that guys that were supposedly your friends had ulterior motives? I would worry about having to keep my guard up constantly.

[silera]

Actually, I don't think I had more male friends really. I think I just really had a lot of friends but best friends were all but two female. Alkey was (still is) my best friend, and one in high school. All other guy friends I hung out with I knew wanted to fuck me and actually, Alkey did (hopefully still does) want to fuck me too obviously.

That was an odd sentence.

[drusilla]

it's always their girlfriend who had the problem with me because they weren't secure in their own relationships. i've always had a boyfriend of my own & never had any interest in theirs. i never really cared if someone had ulterior motives or not, because it didn't mean i had to do anything anyway. & i hung out with a lot of good people who would never try anything, but i'm sure me having a boyfriend put a stop to that. they knew i was off limits.

[IamPixie]

it's always their girlfriend who had the problem with me because they weren't secure in their own relationships. i've always had a boyfriend of my own & never had any interest in theirs. i never really cared if someone had ulterior motives or not, because it didn't mean i had to do anything anyway. & i hung out with a lot of good people who would never try anything, but i'm sure me having a boyfriend put a stop to that. they knew i was off limits.

It wouldn't bother if you someone you genuinely considered your friend really just wanted to fuck you the whole time?

[drusilla]

these thoughts may seem mixed up but, not really. i'm sure a lot of times it may have started that way, but what do i care. they aren't pretending to be nice, we developed actual friendships.

with a lot of men (i'm not saying all, but a lot), you sort of can just assume they'll bang whoever gives them a shot. but you can't let it like get in the way of other things.

[IamPixie]

these thoughts may seem mixed up but, not really. i'm sure a lot of times it may have started that way, but what do i care. they aren't pretending to be nice, we developed actual friendships.

with a lot of men (i'm not saying all, but a lot), you sort of can just assume they'll bang whoever gives them a shot. but you can't let it like get in the way of other things.

or maybe they're waiting patiently in the bushes for the perfect time to strike. Like a cobra.

[drusilla]

let them wait. & who says we can't do the same?

[IamPixie]

let them wait. & who says we can't do the same?

touche.

[Gvac]

with a lot of men (i'm not saying all, but a lot), you sort of can just assume they'll bang whoever gives them a shot. but you can't let it like get in the way of other things.

So wise.

[grlNIN]

I have 2 or 3 close female friends and a handful of girls that when i run into have great conversations and jokes with but those two groups don't usually overlap and i don't go out of my way to hang with the run ins.

I think it's because i would either end up hating them for some reason-thereby ruining the chemistry of the relationship or i would just get bored.

My close lady friends are very laid back, in the sense that they get what life has to offer and don't take shit personal when say-i have to cancel on them way last minute or im being OCD or just a fucking asshole for any reason and these relationships work vice versa.

I would not say i prefer male over female friends because i have both but at times i find it easier, as in more low key and less exhausting to be out with my boyfriend and his (our) friend than i do girls i know.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I made the greatest friends of my life only after we beat the fucking shit out of each other during recess. Is it any wonder the friendships you make in childhood are the best ones?

[Coach]

Most of the women I am friends with, I have known since college and they were tomboys..In college, they hung out with my house, never any sex, just friends. We were all members of the same athletic team..They were into guys, and hung out in our house like it was theirs..no big. They were really catty to some of our girlfriends..and deservedly so..the gf's usually turned out to be really controlling psyco bitches..I always looked a my female friends like dogs with a terminator..early warning.
But it was kinda a two way street..we were the same way with some of their boyfriends.
I always considered them my sisters and brothers. This was confirmed after one of my female friends died of Ovarian cancer, and they read a letter she had written to her "family" at her funeral. She basically outlined how each of us were in her eyes..we were all brothers or sisters looking out for each another with our respective abilities.

[joethebartender]

I had an ex-girlfriend that would do nothing but trash every woman we hung out with when we were alone, but when the whole gang was together she was all smiles and doled out hugs and kisses like she missed them every second they were away.

It really does say a lot about a woman and her insecurities when she acts like that.

I hope that's one of the reasons she's an "ex".

[Gvac]

I hope that's one of the reasons she's an "ex".

Among other things.

The biggest phony on the planet.

[boosterp]

I have always gotten along better with women than men. And, very rarely did I ever think it could lead to more with one of those friends. Of those who I am still talk to (from my past); two are lesbian, three married, and one I am very close to, we were HS sweethearts, she is married and has a child. I have no hopes with any of them, but they are great to hang with when in town. Half I maintain contact with on facebook, the other half were through work so those are diminishing since I retired.

My best friend is male, my brother is also like a best friend and both are married to great ladies so I am friends with them too.

[Thebazile78]

It wouldn't bother if you someone you genuinely considered your friend really just wanted to fuck you the whole time?

To paraphrase Chris Rock, all men consider their chick-friends girls they haven't fucked ... yet.

I don't know if my high school pals wanted to fuck me ... in high school, I kind of gave off the "weird kid sister" type of a vibe, so I never got any impression that the guys I considered friends wanted anything more to do with me than just being friends. I may have had crushes on them initially, but we just weren't each other's type. I didn't realize how much I missed them until this past weekend when I saw almost all of them again for a very sad reason. Still nothing but brother-sister feeling there, though, and we picked up like the intervening 13 years away from seeing each other day-in-day-out at rehearsals and classes had never happened. We're Family.

In college, I was 100% sure they wanted to fuck me, but I didn't let it bother me if I didn't want to fuck them as well. The few times my closer guy friends tried to make moves on me, I ended up laughing in their faces and just telling them exactly what I felt - I didn't think of them in that way. And, you know what? That didn't kill off the friendships ... I'm still in touch with those guys to this very day, thanks to Facebook, MySpace and Twitter.

[~Katja~]

Liz, Drusilla, Silera...I have a question. When your friend pool is predominately male have you ever found that guys that were supposedly your friends had ulterior motives? I would worry about having to keep my guard up constantly.

I know I am not one of the three addressed but while reading I wanted to comment on this and then saw your question asking just the same...
I think that most of the chicks that have a lot of guy friends don't automatically dated a lot or had a lot of boyfriends... I know from my past it never occurred to me that they could have been interested, but later found out that a few were and just never said anything... so I think the males often have more motives than plain friendship in mind.



Also, like Silera I always had one very close best female friend, still do but we just are too far apart to be in touch much these days. We went through thick and thin growing up but then in the teenage years wet different ways cause of different schools and friends, but stayed in touch...
Most of the female friends I have made over the past 8 years here in the US were women I met on message boards and we became friends because of common interests (kids) or same sense of humor. It's hard to find same kind of friendships at work for me, I am not the most social gossip whore who chats anybody up who walks in the building and unless we happen to work in close projects together I would never get to know them.

[A.J.]

To paraphrase Chris Rock, all men consider their chick-friends girls they haven't fucked ... yet.

And there are some men who know they never will.

[IamPixie]

In college, I was 100% sure they wanted to fuck me, but I didn't let it bother me if I didn't want to fuck them as well. The few times my closer guy friends tried to make moves on me, I ended up laughing in their faces and just telling them exactly what I felt - I didn't think of them in that way. And, you know what? That didn't kill off the friendships ... I'm still in touch with those guys to this very day, thanks to Facebook, MySpace and Twitter.

I'm talking about a really close friend. To me, there's something inherently flawed in a friendship based on someone looking to (eventually) gain from it sexually. I also think that if you're surrounding yourself with "friends" who want to fuck you, you're setting yourself to miss out. I personally rather hang out with a girlfriend and not have to worry about her trying to claw at my sweater cause her boyfriend dumped her and she had too much to drink. It really doesn't happen that often.

I still tend to think that women who declare that they don't like other women and surround themselves with only men are threatened by other females.

[IamPixie]

Most of the women I am friends with, I have known since college and they were tomboys..In college, they hung out with my house, never any sex, just friends. We were all members of the same athletic team..They were into guys, and hung out in our house like it was theirs..no big. They were really catty to some of our girlfriends..and deservedly so..the gf's usually turned out to be really controlling psyco bitches..I always looked a my female friends like dogs with a terminator..early warning.
But it was kinda a two way street..we were the same way with some of their boyfriends.
I always considered them my sisters and brothers. This was confirmed after one of my female friends died of Ovarian cancer, and they read a letter she had written to her "family" at her funeral. She basically outlined how each of us were in her eyes..we were all brothers or sisters looking out for each another with our respective abilities.

I'm really sorry for your loss coach, and I hate to be insensitive. But i'm not talking about having male friends, I'm talking about not having ANY female friends.

[Thebazile78]

I'm talking about a really close friend. To me, there's something inherently flawed in a friendship based on someone looking to (eventually) gain from it sexually. I also think that if you're surrounding yourself with "friends" who want to fuck you, you're setting yourself to miss out. I personally rather hang out with a girlfriend and not have to worry about her trying to claw at my sweater cause her boyfriend dumped her and she had too much to drink. It really doesn't happen that often.

I still tend to think that women who declare that they don't like other women and surround themselves with only men are threatened by other females.

Some of my closest friendships started because we were sexually attracted to each other (usually a one-sided attraction), but, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. I had a boyfriend at the time, he wasn't my type, whatever. There's been at least one of my guy friends who's told me after years of being friends that they only started talking to me because they thought I was cute ... and then they realized I could hold my own in a conversation, say interesting things, and joke un-self-consciously with them no matter what the subject. And I appreciated dick and fart jokes. (During my parents' divorce, my dad told some doozies!)

I'm smart enough to excise the dead weight, so there were a couple of guys who had to go by the wayside because they were ALWAYS waiting for the other shoe to drop, so, yeah, those things got weird.

And it's not true that I don't have any female friends; I just have two.

[sr71blackbird]

I have a female friend who says she prefers male friends over female friends and I see that she does have trouble in her relationships with other women. I think you are right about women needing to be the center of attention and when my friend gets into disagreements with women, it seems to have a lot to do with the attention aspect. My friends sister is quite attractive and whenever I am in a situatuion with both of them and I or any other guy starts giving her sister attention, she starts to have a loud argument with her sister and needs to leave, thereby getting away from the competition. in my situation, we are just friends, and this happens constantly with her, regardless of her rekationship.

[IamPixie]

Some of my closest friendships started because we were sexually attracted to each other (usually a one-sided attraction), but, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. I had a boyfriend at the time, he wasn't my type, whatever. There's been at least one of my guy friends who's told me after years of being friends that they only started talking to me because they thought I was cute ... and then they realized I could hold my own in a conversation, say interesting things, and joke un-self-consciously with them no matter what the subject. And I appreciated dick and fart jokes. (During my parents' divorce, my dad told some doozies!)

I'm smart enough to excise the dead weight, so there were a couple of guys who had to go by the wayside because they were ALWAYS waiting for the other shoe to drop, so, yeah, those things got weird.

Fair enough, but I think there's something to be said about having at least one close female friend or sister w/o sexual residue.

[RoseBlood]

Fair enough, but I think there's something to be said about having at least one close female friend or sister w/o sexual residue.
Assuming they're not a lesbian and hot for you.

[utriculus!]

Ladies who have this mentality (from my experience) tend to need to be the center of attention and are genuinely threatened by another female presence.

There are exceptions to every rule, but I 100% agree with you. I have never yet found an exception. I have a friend or two that is like this to a fault.

They tend to want to pass themselves off as the "cool no-bullshit" girl but in actuality they are the exact opposite. Just in a different way.

[SP1!]

We like it when women want to be together as well, preferably naked.




And I dont buy the argument about the women wanting to be the center of attention, my gf never wants attention but she hates the pettiness and shitty attitudes from women, there are a lot of women who are high maintenance in relationships and in friendships.

[Thebazile78]

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And I dont buy the argument about the women wanting to be the center of attention, my gf never wants attention but she hates the pettiness and shitty attitudes from women, there are a lot of women who are high maintenance in relationships and in friendships.

Those are the ones who I don't have the patience for. The ones who always take-take-take but the instant you need them, they're nowhere to be found. The ones who always tease you and when you get upset they're just kidding ... but when you tease them back, you're treating them like a doormat. The ones who bring the dramarama everywhere.

Those are toxic relationships and whether they're females or males (and I had a couple of male friends who were total drama queens) nobody needs to associate with toxic people. Life's too short for that bullshit.

[Mullenax]

I have always had mostly male friends. I had some really close girl friends in high school but it went sour, and I haven't been able to make a good "girl friend" since. I have steady female acquaintances that invite me to go drinking with them but never to talk or hang out- they think I'm "fun" but they don't consider me one of them.
I like attention ok, but I hate when people try too hard, and I feel like the phenomenon that's been brought up a lot (the girl who wants to be the only girl) applies to most of the girls I would want to be friends with.

[Coach]

I'm really sorry for your loss coach, and I hate to be insensitive. But i'm not talking about having male friends, I'm talking about not having ANY female friends.
I get ya..I guess I was kinda inferring that outside of our group..none of the girls had friends that were female..hell, they even ostracized the other drama queen girls on our team. They HATED the sorority girls..loved the fights they got into with them..one sorority girl that was dating one of my roommates called one of my female friends a skank then slapped her at a party in our house. Big mistake..my friend curled up her fist and laid out the sorority girl..much to the amusement of us all.

[drusilla]

Assuming they're not a lesbian and hot for you.

that's actually where i ran into some problems

[CountryBob]

Amazing that women normally only have a couple of close female friends. I have a group of friends that is about 25 strong. But, all of my friend's chicks have their little groups out of the whole group. So, at big functions, you have all of us guys hanging and then the small groups of chicks all over the joint - most of them hating each other and the other groups. Sad thing the way females act to most other females - you'all miss out on some funtimes.

BTW.. I would definetly bang most all of my female friends. I am just waiting for my chance to get what I want. I already have too many friends and really dont care about your bullshit. They know it and some might use it to their advantage.

[silera]

I think, right now I have at least 2 dozen female friends that I consider close. All but 1 I've met through this messageboard or paltalk.

I'm an internet creep.

[drusilla]

my friends are all your fault

[boosterp]

I have so few people I consider a real friend, but there is quite the handful of y'all that I would like to meet.

[RoseBlood]

I have a couple close female friends and large handful of acquaintances. Then I have the women whom I don't care for, have little use for, but find myself in their presence a couple times a year. I don't act like they are my best friends, but I also don't spit in their faces. I am cordial because at said events, starting a scene would prove nothing.

We women are also our own worst enemies and provide this double edged sword to ourselves. We tend to be more emotional in nature and alot of us will overanalyze something as simple as a glance or smirk. Alot of it comes back to how we internalize words and looks. Basically, I think alot of the drama women find themselves in amongst other women are provided on both ends without the other realizing it.

[DolaMight]

Fair enough, but I think there's something to be said about having at least one close female friend or sister w/o sexual residue.

I've copyrighted that term for a new energy drink and I'm currently in talks with coca-cola to bring it into production.

[grlNIN]

Can you guys stick to analyzing your own personal behavior and not cast your psychological net over the entire female species.

Thanks.

[DolaMight]

Can you guys stick to analyzing your own personal behavior and not cast your psychological net over the entire female species.

Thanks.

females are their own species now? how will we make babies? I ain't gonna Devito/Schwarzenegger no sumbitch.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I have a couple close female friends and large handful of acquaintances. Then I have the women whom I don't care for, have little use for, but find myself in their presence a couple times a year. I don't act like they are my best friends, but I also don't spit in their faces. I am cordial because at said events, starting a scene would prove nothing.

We women are also our own worst enemies and provide this double edged sword to ourselves. We tend to be more emotional in nature and alot of us will overanalyze something as simple as a glance or smirk. Alot of it comes back to how we internalize words and looks. Basically, I think alot of the drama women find themselves in amongst other women are provided on both ends without the other realizing it.

Preach the truth, sister! Just because I returned a text doesn't mean I think you're the bee's knees.

I am going to sound like a eunich or traitor for saying this, but I tend to talk to and make female friends based on an attraction that is more emotional than sexual. Is there attraction, yes, I believe that every single relationship between a man and a woman is based upon some degree of attraction, but not necessarily sexual. I do not like being assumed to "want a piece" every time I talk to someone- I'm not always thinking with my cock, I'm thinking with my heart. Goddamn it, there's a difference.

So there, I get overanalyzed by my female friends alot, I don't like it, and that's why I can see why girls want to stay away from other girls. Who likes being under a microscope of double standards, as Bazile pointed out? Sorry NIN, but we're gonna cast our psychological nets over the species because it's what we do. These patterns exist and in a general sense, are completely reinforced by multitudes of experiences. Group mentalities like what some of the ladies here are raging against exist and are promulgated daily via life interaction.

So there, I'm an exception to the rule except when I really do only want to just fuck a girl. :devil2:

[jennysmurf]

I have a small group of close girlfriends and only a few guy friends. I've found that many of the guys I've been friends with tend to get skittish after a while. I think they're afraid I'll want to marry them or something, so I eventually have to back way off with them. I feel like I have to reassure them every time I see them that I don't want to marry them. Just relax and have fun.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I have a small group of close girlfriends and only a few guy friends. I've found that many of the guys I've been friends with tend to get skittish after a while. I think they're afraid I'll want to marry them or something, so I eventually have to back way off with them. I feel like I have to reassure them every time I see them that I don't want to marry them. Just relax and have fun.

Do you cry during sex?

[jennysmurf]

Do you cry during sex?

Not usually. Do you want me to?

[Contra]

Hot

[jennysmurf]

Hot

Right? I wasn't sure where he was going with it, but I decide to just play along. :happy:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Right? I wasn't sure where he was going with it, but I decide to just play along. :happy:

I came as soon as I hit 'submit reply' and went to bed.

[jennysmurf]

I came as soon as I hit 'submit reply' and went to bed.

Awesome.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Awesome.

Si.

[Aggie]

I totally missed this thread. I agree with Pixie in that it's a red flag if you can't get along with other females. I've been burned by several girls (as in my "best friend" in college screwed my boyfriend) but I didn't give up on all girls. Just that whore.

I went to an all girls high school and I loved it. Of course there was drama cuz we're girls but I still consider 5 girls from my high school my best friends. That being said we may not even see each other once a year and don't even "talk" that much but we keep up with each other enough and there is never guilt about how long it's been since we've talked, etc. I LOVE that, we just appreciate each other when we actually get to talk or hang out.

In college I'd say I had an equal amount of male and female friends. Being a huge sports fan I got along great with guys but I recognized some of them just wanted to hook up if the chance arose. Sometimes it made me too uncomfortable to want to be with them alone but in general I had some deep, fulfilling frienships with guys. But it can never be the same as bonding with another female.

I don't make new friends very easily because I feel like a dork if I'm the one saying, 'you know let's get together sometime for dinner'. I guess I'm afraid of being rejected or them just saying yes because they feel they have to. I have a few female friends here in Texas but mostly hang out with my husband and his family.

I would really love to hang out with the ladies of rf.net because I think we would have the best time together. I wish we weren't so spread out.