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IkeaBoy
01-04-2002, 12:07 PM
I know lists suck but here's a pretty brief, unordered list of my favorites of 2001 in TV and movies and occasional commentary

Movies (List Edited to Include TOXIC AVENGER 4):
1. Mullholland Drive
2. Ghost World
3. The Royal Tenenbaums
4. Memento
5. Man Who Wasn't There- Tony Shaloub gives stand out performance as Cochran esque performance a bit overlong but pretty damned stylish.
6. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
7. Donnie Darko- hardly got a release but was a great movie of a schizophrenic high schooler awaiting the end of the world. The ending could have been much better but the rest of the movie was intriguing enough for a support.
8. Citizen Toxie: Toxic Avenger 4- Played for one week. Completely offensive but if you want old school gore, retards and an old lady pooping herself. This is the movie for you.
9. The Score- I prefer this thriller to Ocean's 11. Not the best script or best movie over all but exciting and the cast is remarkable.
10. Tailor of Panama- Little recognition. Quirky Spy dark comedy. Pierce Brosnan plays off Bond, doesn't mimic.

Honorable Mention:
*Lord of the Rings- not my favorite, not as good as everyone made it out to be but it was a lame year and it was visually spectacular.

* Ocean's Eleven
* Snatch
* With Friends Like Harry...

Movie that could have been great but was blown:
* AI

Not sure if it should count:
* Apocalypse Now Redux- A lot of the added scenes were worthless (planation scene excised wisely) but seeing the Kilgore attack on the village on the big screen wasn't topped.
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Top 12 Shows of 2001

1. The Daily Show- by far the best show on TV. Props for continuing at full force post 9/11. Best commentators and correspondents on TV.
2. 24- best show of the new season by far.
3. South Park
4. Family Guy- originally I didn't like this show but it's not only grown on me but is the best network cartoon on TV by far
5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer- Hasn't gotten lame yet after six season, constantly rejuvenites self while I'm still ashamed to admit I watch it I The Nerd Trio provides more comedy than 95% of the comedy shows on TV and it remains the most spanakable show on TV.
6. Dennis Miller Live
7. Conan O'Brien
8. Titus- as far as sitcoms go, this one is by far the best on TV. It's funny, smart and the fact that Stacy Keach hasn't gotten an Emmy nomination shows how useless awards are.
9. Oz- it last appeared on TV in February but still remains THE most powerful of the HBO shows. Intense, gripping, well written and just well plain well made. Lee Teregsen's one of the most underrated actors on television and the rest of the cast does phenomenol work.
10. Alias- well done and Jennifer Garner is really, really hot.
11. CSI
12. The Sopranos- fine, it was a lame season . But be honest, who didn't enjoy Ralphie or Furio and stay tuned week after week hoping for the best that never came.

Honorable Mention:
* The Job- haven't seen it for awhile (lack of repeats) but it was definitely a great fucking show. Maybe it was the time factor that's why it's not in my top 12. Returning the 16th.
* The Man Show
* Six Feet Under- better than Sopranos in writing and plot. Realistic, genuinely well done. Why Sopranos is ranked higher? maybe it's the hype and the fact that it's more appealing and intense than SFU but SFU is a genius show with great characters.
* The Tick- best sitcom of the new season.
* That 70s Show- another great FOX sitcom. Not as good as Titus but any show that gives Kevin McDonald a recurring role gets mad ups in my book.
* Angel- though a bit lacking in the last season finale and the current season it's still a great show.
* Futurama- far better than Simpsons but not as good as FAmily Guy. Still great for some laughs though.



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Sabotage
01-04-2002, 05:47 PM
Top 3 TV comedy shows in 2001--Family Guy, Simpsons, Futurama...Wow, all three are Fox animated shows...FOX RULES

Hooray, We can say "Stuff your Ass" now! Damn, now I'm starving!

IkeaBoy
01-04-2002, 05:59 PM
You still think Simpsons is one of the best comedy shows on TV? Damn, watch more shows man.

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Arienette
01-04-2002, 06:02 PM
i'm on board with most of this, but how could you put buffy as #5? it is far and away the best show on tv, and has been for the past 6 years. i won't list its merits here, since i realize that your putting it on your list is evidence that you appreciate them already. but #5... it's just not right

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TooCute
01-04-2002, 06:49 PM
What about Days of our
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Se7en
01-04-2002, 07:22 PM
Wow, I know you don't consider LOTR to be one of the best films of the year, but not even in the Top TEN??? I can't say I agree with that. I find it very difficult to believe that a Toxic Avenger flick (even if they are fun) is better than Jackson's masterpiece (that's right! I called it a masterpiece! Blah! :p )

I'd also flip Buffy and Angel. I've thought that Angel was pretty solid this season, while Buffy just sort of dragged on without much direction or purpose.

Quick mini-question: Which is the hotter Buffy - the Buffy of today, or the Buffy of the first couple seasons, where she was packing an extra 10 or 15 lbs? My vote's for retro Buffy. I'm watching old reruns on FX, and she looks just sooooo damn good. Now....eh, she's too skinny. I usually like the anorexic look, but not with her.

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42nd-delay
01-04-2002, 07:44 PM
Damn, you watch a lot of TV!

Simpsons took a permanent nosedive around season 8.

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Gvac
01-05-2002, 05:20 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how IkeaBoy has the time to watch so much TV and see all these movies. Between going to school and listening to O&A and R&F and posting like a madman, it hardly seems possible. You really don't sleep, do you, Ikea?

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erinmoran
01-05-2002, 05:32 AM
He really doesnt date either..lol

I loved Planet Of the Apes

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Arienette
01-05-2002, 08:33 AM
I'd also flip Buffy and Angel. I've thought that Angel was pretty solid this season, while Buffy just sort of dragged on without much direction or purpose.
i personally couldn't agree with this less. while, i like angel (and watch it religiously), it is no competition for buffy. and although the angel story line this season is intreguing, the show in general is just not quite of the same caliber as buffy.

and i also disagree with the "buffy dragging on without direction" thing. i think the plot line this season is just ridiculously compelling, and honestly some of the best stuff i've seen on this show (which is saying a lot, seeing as i'm so obsessed). and if anything seems random or as though it's not going anywhere, i can pretty much guarantee you that it's not. everything in buffy has some kind of purpose and will tie in eventually. it's really a beautiful thing.

Which is the hotter Buffy - the Buffy of today, or the Buffy of the first couple seasons, where she was packing an extra 10 or 15 lbs?
i agree that she looked better when she wasn't quite so skeletal. although, she had some very weird things going on with her hair starting around the third season which, in conjunction with the weight loss, made her just a little scary. i think this season, she looks much better - nearly rivaling retro buffy.

anyone noticing that i pay way too much attention to this show?

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the moon it leaves silver but never sleep
and then the silver turns to grey
oh, stay with me, arienette, until the wolves are away

This message was edited by Arienette on 1-5-02 @ 12:46 PM

Sheeplovr
01-06-2002, 03:49 PM
did that AFI show get to ya?


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IkeaBoy
01-06-2002, 09:46 PM
Yes, LotR is a bettermade, better acted, better effects, etc. movie than Toxic Avenger 4. But Troma is Troma.

And no Sheep, I didn't watch the AFI awards. AWards stink

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IkeaBoy
01-06-2002, 11:24 PM
gvac also think of homework and the shows/movies I didn't put on the list.

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