View Full Version : The Impact of Cursing on the Show
mrnealcassady
02-19-2009, 09:31 PM
I'm curious as what others think on how cursing impacts the show. Although I've been a fan since '01, only recently have I listened to the XM shows. Obviously the show is different in many ways, which is completely understandable. Love many things about it.
Still, I found the Feb. 18 show nearly unlistenable. The segment on the Obama/cartoon veered to a place where Ron was saying "f-ing" so often that it was grating. Seemed unecessary....
Love Ron and Fez and realize many will totally rip on me for this comment. However, I wonder if the freedom to curse is sometimes taken too far. That something is lost... maybe the tone has changed.
WampusCrandle
02-19-2009, 09:33 PM
i would rather they be able curse if they want to, because in the end, it can bring something important to a conversation.
Marc with a c
02-19-2009, 09:33 PM
i really don't notice when ron does it at this point, but it feels like hearing my mom curse when fez says 'fuck'
midwestjeff
02-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Great board name, shitty fuck fuck fuck fuck post.
I can't imagine letting the word "fucking" bother me.
You must be a gimp.
Does your pussy hurt when you hear that word or how does it all work?
Then again, I am a hayseed XMer, so what do I know?
weekapaugjz
02-19-2009, 09:46 PM
more swearing = more gooder.
KC2OSO
02-19-2009, 10:24 PM
more swearing = more gooder.
Agreed. Maximizes appeal. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Ronie needs a harness. All words have their place I guess but Ronnie is so bright and so are Fez. I miss WNEW circa 2001/02 when Fez were still alive and they couldn't swear at all. They (and OnA) had something to push against even if it was just fake.
They need to leave this shit and get back to their roots.
midwestjeff
02-19-2009, 10:40 PM
I miss WNEW circa 2001/02 when Fez were still alive and they couldn't swear at all.
Yeah, and I miss being able to jerk off to a small magazine cut out of Cindy Crawford.
Things change.
Marc with a c
02-19-2009, 10:55 PM
why did you cut it out? just leave the page in the magazine for fuck sake.
GreatAmericanZero
02-20-2009, 03:56 AM
the only other person i ever heard complain about Ron using "the f-word" was my grandmother when my dad was listening to the show with her in the car
instrument
02-20-2009, 04:34 AM
I've never understood "cursing" and the fact that you let a word bother you means you were well endoctrinated by your parents.
Good job!
the only other person i ever heard complain about Ron using "the f-word" was my grandmother when my dad was listening to the show with her in the car
Bob Hope never had to work blue. Think about that for a minute.
ToiletCrusher
02-20-2009, 04:51 AM
If you take that away, there would be more "ummm"s to fill the gap between thoughts.
beachbum
02-20-2009, 05:20 AM
I had never really paid attention to it until I had my daughter with me one day and she said"wow,Ron really likes the f-word doesn't he?"She was 9 at the time so it was a big deal to hear it on the radio.You don't get much of it on radio Disney.
When Ron says fuck it just seems conversational to me,like sitting around the bar talking with the boys.(Now I'm going to say some shit that will allow some of you to berate and attack me).The O&A show,however,seems quite gratuitous at times.It's almost like since they can't curse from 6-9 they HAVE to curse as much as possible from 9-11.Don't get me wrong,I love the show,it just seems like on some days they try to say cunt,fucking cunt,or fucking bloody cunt as often as possible.Especially if Louis CK,a comedian that I love,is on.Even Louis gets carried away.He doesn't curse nearly as much in his stand up as he does on the show.
patrick187
02-20-2009, 05:22 AM
I'm curious as what others think on how cursing impacts the show. Although I've been a fan since '01, only recently have I listened to the XM shows. Obviously the show is different in many ways, which is completely understandable. Love many things about it.
Still, I found the Feb. 18 show nearly unlistenable. The segment on the Obama/cartoon veered to a place where Ron was saying "f-ing" so often that it was grating. Seemed unecessary....
Love Ron and Fez and realize many will totally rip on me for this comment. However, I wonder if the freedom to curse is sometimes taken too far. That something is lost... maybe the tone has changed.
fuckyouyoufuckingfuck
patrick187
02-20-2009, 05:23 AM
I've never understood "cursing" and the fact that you let a word bother you means you were well endoctrinated by your parents.
Good job!
yes!
foodcourtdruide
02-20-2009, 05:55 AM
The other day I was listening to the show on a crowded bus. I listen on a blackberry using earphones. When the earphones come out audio goes out over the blackberry speaker. So, my earphones accidentally were unplugged and a bus full of people heard Ron say something like, "sweet pussy lips"
underdog
02-20-2009, 06:05 AM
The other day I was listening to the show on a crowded bus. I listen on a blackberry using earphones. When the earphones come out audio goes out over the blackberry speaker. So, my earphones accidentally were unplugged and a bus full of people heard Ron say something like, "sweet pussy lips"
I hope HTG was on that bus.
drjoek
02-20-2009, 06:07 AM
Listening to the after show where Pepper has more time on mic, literally every third word out of his mouth is fuckin. Its a verbal crutch at this point not even for emphasis.
On the show the cursing doesnt bother me. In fact when Ron gets to use it to smack down some asshole who insults Fez I'm glad the opportunity is there for it.
NewYorkDragons80
02-20-2009, 06:11 AM
Yeah, and I miss being able to jerk off to a small magazine cut out of Cindy Crawford.
Things change.
THANK YOU. The show has moved on, act accordingly. Look, I'd love if they were on at night and Fez did Fezatorials, and Joe Poo was a regular caller, BUT THIS IS NOT THE YEAR 2001!!! You may or may not agree, but the show is far more mature than the WNEW days and I feel that brings more positives than negatives. And as much as I'd like it if they were on at night, if that were to happen, it wouldn't be the WNEW show, and it wouldn't be the current XM show; it'd be a brand new show starting from scratch in a new era with a separate pool of callers and characters. Nostalgia is a wonderful thing, but just like everything, the show is constantly changing. To look backwards sometimes has its merits and there are elements of the show I'd like to see them check back in on from time to time, but there are many more parts that they've moved on from.
Without it, we never would have experienced the glory of Fucktwat the Clown.
West.Coast.Skippy
02-20-2009, 07:55 AM
i don't know what the old shows were like, but i think there is too much 'fuck' on the show. it's a lazy habit. just imagine replacing that word with another, and i think it would be clear how inundated the conversation becomes. if anyone's argument is juvenile, it might be the 'pro fucks', because they still get a rise hearing taboo language.
Hepcat22
02-20-2009, 08:34 AM
I hit the mute button or listen on the little earphone when the wife is around.
KC2OSO
02-20-2009, 10:16 AM
THANK YOU. The show has moved on, ....To look backwards sometimes has its merits and there are elements of the show I'd like to see them check back in on from time to time, but there are many more parts that they've moved on from.
You and Midwest are right. It was just my opinion and it sucked. The show has to move on and change. I was just thinking back to a time when my son and I could both listen and laugh at the same things.
kdubya
02-20-2009, 10:28 AM
I hate when people say F-ing or fricking instead or fucking. A words power is in the intent, not the word itself. If you are using frick instead of fuck, with the same meaning then you may as wll just say fuck.
patrick187
02-20-2009, 10:29 AM
I hit the mute button or listen on the little earphone when the wife is around.
Is that befor or after your wife puts your balls in her purse?
STC-Dub
02-20-2009, 10:34 AM
I actually think that cursing makes the show flow better and makes it more like listening in on a conversation. The boys do not have to worry about the words they choose so he conversations flow more naturally.
JackieJokeMan
02-20-2009, 02:01 PM
I've never understood "cursing" and the fact that you let a word bother you means you were well endoctrinated by your parents.
Good job!
Well considering that it isn't even a word, yes it bothers me.
Listening to the after show where Pepper has more time on mic, literally every third word out of his mouth is fuckin. Its a verbal crutch at this point not even for emphasis.
On the show the cursing doesnt bother me. In fact when Ron gets to use it to smack down some asshole who insults Fez I'm glad the opportunity is there for it.
My thoughts exactly.
Pepper isn't the only one guilty of it, though. I know I do it sometimes when I'm aggravated and searching for the best way to organize my thoughts and present my argument, and even Ron and Dave do it on the air as well.
If someone is genuinely angry as says "I cant FUCKING believe this!" it has power.
When someone says "Fuckin' this fuckin' shit is fuckin' pissin' me the fuck off" it literally makes me wince; not because I'm offended by the language, but rather the almost stuttering quality of the delivery is painful.
tiny e
02-20-2009, 03:07 PM
"Still, I found the Feb. 18 show nearly unlistenable. The segment on the Obama/cartoon veered to a place where Ron was saying "f-ing" so often that it was grating. Seemed unecessary...."
I completely understand your position. There are two distinct camps in this thread. Check out the spelling and grammar in the "for" camp. Also, notice that one listens to the show with a 9 year old daughter and another listens with his child's grandmother. Hmmm...Please Serpico, make sense of all this for poor, ignorant me..
Fez4PrezN2008
02-20-2009, 03:49 PM
meh,
It doesn't bother me in the least. It's just the way some people talk. If they held back it wouldn't be as genuine. There are a lot more important things to worry about.
GreatAmericanZero
02-20-2009, 04:22 PM
does the word "Fuck" really bother people in 2009?
i recently started a thread how i think the word "shit" should be retired as a bad word cuz i say it in front of family and children without second thought. No one is offended by the word "shit" cuz it just means poop which isn't an offensive concept
so now we get to "Fuck". I say "fuck" in front of my parents, but just as an expletive. Like "..i dont fuckin' care". but i don't say "mom, i fucked her!" (then again i dont talk about sex iwth my parents anyway). But i can't imagine the word "fuckin'" as a place holder in a sentence offending anyone in 2009
so the word "fuck" could only be offensive in sex terms.."i fucked her, she fucked me, i fucked her ass". but when u say it, is it not the same thing as "i humped her, she had sex with me, i penetrated her ass"? both sentences have the same effect on me. its just no big deal
as far as offensive words, i think "Nigger" is an offensive word, yet you can say it on TV. Its an FCC acceptable word. There was a "Family Matters" episode where they wrote it on Urkels locker (and lets not forget about the famous Chevy Chase/Richard Pryor SNL skit). I think "cunt" and "cock" are pretty harsh so those words i can see not saying on tv.
but after "Nigger" "Cunt" and "Cock", what else is there? i think those are the only words that would really give the "dirty word" effect to the listener, no?
biozombie
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
...
but after "Nigger" "Cunt" and "Cock", what else is there? ...
"Gay"
jlehane3
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
It wakes people up like when the audience dozes off,or they might hit a road barrier.And it snaps back Fez into the world of radio and out of Broadway Musicals,modern Tap,Liza Minelli,wrestling,public showers etc. so he can stiffen up and get thru those live read commercials so blazingly in a blaze of glory on his blazing saddle. "Which END of this thing do I sit ON?"
Enabler
02-20-2009, 05:01 PM
I'm curious as what others think on how cursing impacts the show. Although I've been a fan since '01, only recently have I listened to the XM shows. Obviously the show is different in many ways, which is completely understandable. Love many things about it.
Being a fan who hasnt been able to listen for a long time and then suddenly gets xm for the first time its pretty mindblowing. And the language is pretty much the first thing that shocks you. But you get used to that quick and come to realize that EVERYONE on the show has gone mental. And then you laugh and laugh all over again. Just be glad you missed the Earl Douglas years.
lleeder
02-20-2009, 05:23 PM
I had the show blasting next to some trucker the day Ron yelled about how bad the callers are now after Drjoek pissed him off. He went on a cursing tirade for like 20 minutes saying how this wasn't WNEW and thats why the show was different. The trucker called me over and said "These guys were on the radio and never would curse now all this guy is doing is cursing. The show was better then." I had to explain that he didn't really curse that much but the callers deserved it that particular day. Truckers are douches.
jlehane3
02-20-2009, 11:03 PM
I've heard that WNEW days were brilliant,and I missed them...sure I could go back in time and hear replays.I like XM better because I hate censorshit and some church women determining what I can't be allowed to listen to.I fought hard in the trenches for anti-censorship in various ways,most notably supporting Stern in the 90's.He was targeted and given a buyout in my opinion that was too hard to say no to. Who could blame him ? The domino theory worked in that case when the rest of the wimps caved in on radio stations nationwide. Look at the PUSSY mainstream TV markets bowing down. I can sympathize with a guy who doesn't want foul language to turn the channel just like I have a choice to turn off televangelists.I just want the choice for myself and not some gizbag pulling the plug on my fave shows for "indecency" issues.That's like burning books,shutting down free speech.Free speech offers new discoveries of thought and not the same old shit.This is why I created the Borg for Star Trek,to show the close-mindedness of a corrupt robotic populace as drones,mindless puppets. I learned to swear from my uncles and kids at school,and it's part of my everyday identity,not for my customers.....but they are paying for me to keep it clean.Professional courtesy. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/j3lehane/Safety_BigDragonSol1366_69RT2.jpg The best thing the NUNS taught me was how to sing.I outgrew them and "CHRISTENED" them PENGUINS when they lied and shoved bad religion down my throat.:furious: then unleashed Punkrock,Grunge,Classic Rock,Borg,Life on Mars,Stern. Why go backwards?
jauble
02-21-2009, 12:25 AM
You and Midwest are right. It was just my opinion and it sucked. The show has to move on and change. I was just thinking back to a time when my son and I could both listen and laugh at the same things.
I hope the boy enjoys his participation ribbon and grows up in Pleasantville. Would you be comfortable if your son heard someone on the radio say I F-ed a girl last night and you had to explain to him what that means? What if the show curbed the language but still had live reads for porn.com? You can laugh at things with your kid, but I don't want sponge bob radio its not what I pay for. Be a parent and turn it off (hopefully you have an inno).
DiabloSammich
02-21-2009, 04:47 AM
The language doesn't bother me, but verbal crutches do bug me. And Pepper isn't the only one, dr. joe. Our beloved Ronnie is guilty of it too often, and he's better than that. He'll be on a point, and then we he feels a pause to move to the next point (or when he's looking at the Paltalk cameras) he'll sit on a long, drawn out "fuccckkinnnnnn...." Other than that, hit me with all the language you got.
Thank God this is an XL channel.
GreatAmericanZero
02-21-2009, 07:09 AM
i tend to think that people who get annoyed with the verbal crutches have too much time on their hands
nothing worse than a "How many times a show does someone say the same thing" type thread
DiabloSammich
02-21-2009, 07:59 AM
i tend to think that people who get annoyed with the verbal crutches have too much time on their hands
nothing worse than a "How many times a show does someone say the same thing" type thread
I tend to think that people who start 15 threads a day have too much time on their hands.
Bossanova
02-21-2009, 08:01 AM
I tend to think that people who start 15 threads a day have too much time on their hands.
FACE
KC2OSO
02-21-2009, 10:16 AM
I hope the boy enjoys his participation ribbon and grows up in Pleasantville. Would you be comfortable if your son heard someone on the radio say I F-ed a girl last night and you had to explain to him what that means? What if the show curbed the language but still had live reads for porn.com? You can laugh at things with your kid, but I don't want sponge bob radio its not what I pay for. Be a parent and turn it off (hopefully you have an inno).
You fucking missed the motherfucking point but what fucking ever. Like I fucking said, I was just fucking thinking back to a motherfucking time (maybe before you were a fucking listener) when we could fucking laugh at the motherfucking show to-fucking-gether. It was a com-fucking-pletely different fucking show back then and I'm well a-fucking-ware that you can never fucking go the fuck back.
I don't fucking give a fucking cock-shocking shit what the fuck they do on the fucking show now - that's their motherfucking business. It's fucking obvi-fucking-ously fucking grown to be a motherfucking different fucking show and so fucking be it.
I couldn't fucking care fucking less a-fucking-bout it. It's just a fucking word.
You fucking missed the motherfucking point but what fucking ever. Like I fucking said, I was just fucking thinking back to a motherfucking time (maybe before you were a fucking listener) when we could fucking laugh at the motherfucking show to-fucking-gether. It was a com-fucking-pletely different fucking show back then and I'm well a-fucking-ware that you can never fucking go the fuck back.
I don't fucking give a fucking cock-shocking shit what the fuck they do on the fucking show now - that's their motherfucking business. It's fucking obvi-fucking-ously fucking grown to be a motherfucking different fucking show and so fucking be it.
I couldn't fucking care fucking less a-fucking-bout it. It's just a fucking word.
Fuck you!
I dunno, I've heard the FreeFM, WNEW, XM and WJFK shows, and the XM shows are my favorite. Censorship sucks, Ron's freedom is awesome
GreatAmericanZero
02-21-2009, 04:40 PM
I tend to think that people who start 15 threads a day have too much time on their hands.
i have been on this board longer than you and you have over 1,000 more posts than me
so um..yeah, point made.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-21-2009, 04:44 PM
i have been on this board longer than you and you have over 1,000 more posts than me
so um..yeah, point made.
Yeah, but you made like 3000 of those posts in one year's time.
instrument
02-21-2009, 04:48 PM
This isn't an xl channel, a mod emailed me for using the word co(k in a thread.
A warning
So all of you watch out!
DiabloSammich
02-21-2009, 04:51 PM
i have been on this board longer than you and you have over 1,000 more posts than me
so um..yeah, point made.
Yeah, but you made like 3000 of those posts in one year's time.
Cofy made my point for me. And I don't know if I've ever seen anybody microanalyze a radio show like you do O and A, and you're going to insinuate that I have too much free time on my hands? Because of an observation I make? Really?
CofyCrakCocaine
02-21-2009, 04:53 PM
I just want to point out however before everyone thinks I'm today's big winner...
I haven't taken a shower yet today.
underdog
02-21-2009, 04:54 PM
This isn't an xl channel, a mod emailed me for using the word co(k in a thread.
A warning
So all of you watch out!
Was it in the thread title? There's certain words you cannot use in the titles.
EddieMoscone
02-21-2009, 05:04 PM
I've got to say, I was kind of taken aback by the cursing when I listened to the XM show for the first time. The more I listened though I realized that this wasn't a constant thing, only depended on Ron's mood and the situation.
Also, to me, using "fuck" every few words is not necessarily a verbal crutch. Growing up in Queens, I would say most everyone I know used it heavily in regular conversation. Considering where those who get mic time on the show are from the use of the word is not surprising to me.
styckx
02-21-2009, 05:55 PM
I can sorta understand where the OP was coming from. Sometimes an over abundance of cursing takes away from the heart behind the initial message or opinion. Not in this case, (for me at least) but if someone is trying to make a point, or get their opinion across it doesn't carry as well when it's riddled with fucks, cunts, shits wtc, no matter how great the opinion or point actually is.
DrexlSpivey
02-22-2009, 09:10 AM
i work in public, and set up my xm in my portable player.. but its real hard to listen like that sometimes, with rons cursing.. sometimes he really goes overboard.. i think it does have a lot to do with his mood or the topic.. it seems the deeper he gets into something, the more f bombs he drops... but everytime someone new listens to them with me, they all get hooked pretty quick
It means I listen with my earbuds in at work.
That's about it.
Death Metal Moe
02-22-2009, 01:39 PM
They never said anything I'd be offended by. As far as others hearing the show, I listen to BOTH 202 shows either where others can't hear it or with fellow fans. It's not just Ron and Fez, O&A have a lot of content that you wouldn't want someone to walk in on in the middle of a bit either.
I don't see the problem with either show cursing.
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