View Full Version : More Impressive? Favre's Streak or Ripken's
BoarsHeadRob
02-13-2009, 07:21 AM
Now that Favre looks like he will not continue on with his streak.. Nevermind which athlete hurt their team more by continuing their streak when they should have just taken a day or two off, but which do you think is more impressive?
Brett Favre - 291 Consecutive Starts over 18 years of service in NFL
Cal Ripken - 2632 Consecutive Starts over 16 years of service in MLB
Remember, football is a much more grueling sport as far as injuries are concerned, but the shear amount of games that a baseball player must participate needs to be considered..
King Hippos Bandaid
02-13-2009, 07:25 AM
Ripken, more chances to get hurt
I know you take more hits in Football, but Ripken had liners hit str8 at his head, no steroids to help boost his potential
Ripken is the Iron Man
Favre is going out like a punk, should have retired before the Jet Debacle
Fezticle98
02-13-2009, 07:32 AM
Favre.
Incidentally, I was able to pull off about a 20-game streak in Little League, while I could only manage about a 16 gamer in HS football.
KingModem
02-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Doug Jarvis with 964 consecutive NHL games?
A. C. Green with 1,192 consective NBA games?
They are all super impressive.
Tallman388
02-13-2009, 08:04 AM
I go with Ripken, playing 162 games, plus whenever they made the playoffs seems like it would take more endurance. Keep in mind that Favre got himself hooked on the pills trying to cure the pain, so it's close, but Ripken gets it.
mikeyboy
02-13-2009, 08:43 AM
I go with Ripken, playing 162 games, plus whenever they made the playoffs seems like it would take more endurance. Keep in mind that Favre got himself hooked on the pills trying to cure the pain, so it's close, but Ripken gets it.
FYI - That didn't happen that often -- only 1983, 1996 and 1997, I think.
razorboy
02-13-2009, 08:53 AM
Sugar Ray Robinson's 91 fight winning streak.
TripleSkeet
02-13-2009, 09:09 AM
Ripkin.
Kevin
02-13-2009, 09:09 AM
Both suck. Favre threw the ball everytime he even thought anyone was close. Ripken, i am not sure who did and did not do roids anymore. All things being equal, prob Ripken.
weeniewawa
02-13-2009, 09:10 AM
Ripkin is more impressive since the NFL and their ridicules QB protection rules that treat them like queens
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 09:18 AM
Both suck.
you are dead to me
ripken far more impressive
Kevin
02-13-2009, 09:49 AM
you are dead to me
ripken far more impressive
I didn't mean the players, i ment the streaks. For the reasons i gave. Gretzky never got hurt because he was a pussy. So was Favre. And Ripken, i can't trust any baseball player anymore. But if he was clean, def Ripken.
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 09:53 AM
I didn't mean the players, i ment the streaks. For the reasons i gave. Gretzky never got hurt because he was a pussy. So was Favre. And Ripken, i can't trust any baseball player anymore. But if he was clean, def Ripken.
ok still friends?
Kevin
02-13-2009, 09:54 AM
ok still friends?
Always
MacVittie
02-13-2009, 10:01 AM
Nobody remembers who had the streak before Favre, so I'll have to go with Ripken.
ChrisTheCop
02-13-2009, 10:10 AM
I go with Ripken, playing 162 games, plus whenever they made the playoffs seems like it would take more endurance. Keep in mind that Favre got himself hooked on the pills trying to cure the pain, so it's close, but Ripken gets it.
Absolutely Ripken.
TonyStark
02-13-2009, 10:22 AM
Ripkin as well because it's just so many games.
razorboy
02-13-2009, 10:35 AM
Ripkin.
Ripkin
Ripkin
Who is this Ripkin lad I've been hearing so much about?
instrument
02-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Yeah, the pressure of being a infielder is far greater then being a wuartervack in the nfl, how the whole offense rallies around you....yeah...and the collisions and you run play to play.......so grueling......
Are you people serious?
jauble
02-13-2009, 10:43 AM
Yeah, the pressure of being a infielder is far greater then being a wuartervack in the nfl, how the whole offense rallies around you....yeah...and the collisions and you run play to play.......so grueling......
Are you people serious?
The sheer amount of games played day after day in baseball allows the possibility for more injuries. Both are impressive but I gotta go with Ripken.
Nobody remembers who had the streak before Favre, so I'll have to go with Ripken.
Thats mainly because its unheard of to play that many games in a row in the NFL, I have to go with farve simply because even on plays they dont get sacked they are really likely to take a hit. Anyone who has played both sports realize that your body is sore after a football game for days after every game.
TheMojoPin
02-13-2009, 11:05 AM
no steroids to help boost his potential
Yeah, right.
razorboy
02-13-2009, 11:11 AM
Yeah, right.
Possibly not steroids, but almost certainly HGH.
TheMojoPin
02-13-2009, 11:15 AM
Possibly not steroids, but almost certainly HGH.
I would not be surprised at all if he used some kind of PED. The vast majority of players that have did it to avoid injury and DL time.
Even so, I'd still be amazed by his record.
King Hippos Bandaid
02-13-2009, 11:20 AM
Yeah, right.
if hair loss at age 24 is a symptom, then you may be right
mikeyboy
02-13-2009, 11:22 AM
Remember when Ripken was in jail for trying to beat up Kevin Costner because he found out he was having an affair with his wife, and Peter Angelos got that night's game cancelled by claiming the stadium's lights were malfunctioning so it wouldn't break Ripken's streak? I love urban legends.
TheMojoPin
02-13-2009, 11:24 AM
Besides, the real answer is Billy Ripken's "Fuck Face" card.
hammersavage
02-13-2009, 11:24 AM
Dude, I know a guy who says it was real, mikey.
razorboy
02-13-2009, 12:38 PM
I would not be surprised at all if he used some kind of PED. The vast majority of players that have did it to avoid injury and DL time.
Even so, I'd still be amazed by his record.
When you're dealing with long term endurance and longevity, HGH is almost always the drug of choice. I have some older friends who take it by physician's prescription and I am amazed at some of the age reversing effects it can have.
Neither one impresses me because both men insisted on playing when they weren't of any use to their team just to have an individual record.
Playing with broken fingers as a QB isn't "tough" or "brave" it's detrimental to your team. People who applaud these guys are the same assholes who come into work when they're deathly ill with a 103 degree fever, sneezing all over everyone.
STAY THE FUCK HOME!
underdog
02-13-2009, 01:15 PM
There was a kid in my school that didn't miss a single day of school from the 4th grade on.
He sucked.
midwestjeff
02-13-2009, 01:18 PM
There was a kid in my school that didn't miss a single day of school from the 4th grade on.
He sucked.
Ugh. I hated those kids.
lleeder
02-13-2009, 01:36 PM
One took pain killers and the other one did human growth hormone so I say neither.
underdog
02-13-2009, 01:38 PM
Ugh. I hated those kids.
His name was Cal Ripken Jr.
lleeder
02-13-2009, 01:44 PM
His name was Cal Ripken Jr.
His name was Cal Ripken Jr. His name was Cal Ripken Jr. His name was Cal Ripken Jr.
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 02:09 PM
Some other factors that favor ripken:
no bye week, football players get days off during the week before games and ripkens consecutive innings streak
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 03:00 PM
Neither one impresses me because both men insisted on playing when they weren't of any use to their team just to have an individual record.
Playing with broken fingers as a QB isn't "tough" or "brave" it's detrimental to your team. People who applaud these guys are the same assholes who come into work when they're deathly ill with a 103 degree fever, sneezing all over everyone.
STAY THE FUCK HOME!
Ripken played on a team that went wire to wire in '97. He was certainly of use to that team, and that was a couple of years after 2131.
The real answer, though, is Peyton Manning when he breaks Farve's record in 7 short years....
lleeder
02-13-2009, 03:06 PM
Neither one impresses me because both men insisted on playing when they weren't of any use to their team just to have an individual record.
Playing with broken fingers as a QB isn't "tough" or "brave" it's detrimental to your team. People who applaud these guys are the same assholes who come into work when they're deathly ill with a 103 degree fever, sneezing all over everyone.
STAY THE FUCK HOME!
I've never stayed home sick 10+ years.
RhinoinMN
02-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Neither one impresses me because both men insisted on playing when they weren't of any use to their team just to have an individual record.
Playing with broken fingers as a QB isn't "tough" or "brave" it's detrimental to your team. People who applaud these guys are the same assholes who come into work when they're deathly ill with a 103 degree fever, sneezing all over everyone.
STAY THE FUCK HOME!
Not to mention when Favre was really injured he would take 2 snaps and leave the game to keep the streak alive.
I don't know if Ripkin did the same or not.
I say Ripkin either way.
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Not to mention when Favre was really injured he would take 2 snaps and leave the game to keep the streak alive.
And Farve was mainlining painkillers for quite a while, and had to do some time in a substance abuse program because of it.
Not to mention when Favre was really injured he would take 2 snaps and leave the game to keep the streak alive.
And Farve was mainlining painkillers for quite a while, and had to do some time in a substance abuse program because of it.
Umm...Freakshow....Favre never played 2 snaps and left the game. Rhino was being "ironical".
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 03:45 PM
it wasn't really in response to his quote, i'm not sure why I quoted him.
sailor
02-13-2009, 04:03 PM
favre. no contest. nice poll.
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 04:07 PM
favre. no contest. nice poll.
so what you are saying is Manning when he passes Farve? Cause as I said above, I agree...
sailor
02-13-2009, 04:18 PM
Neither one impresses me because both men insisted on playing when they weren't of any use to their team just to have an individual record.
Playing with broken fingers as a QB isn't "tough" or "brave" it's detrimental to your team. People who applaud these guys are the same assholes who come into work when they're deathly ill with a 103 degree fever, sneezing all over everyone.
STAY THE FUCK HOME!
qb's with broken ribs win super bowls.
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 04:20 PM
pitchers with bloody socks win playoff games. Whee, this is fun...
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Now that Favre looks like he will not continue on with his streak.. Nevermind which athlete hurt their team more by continuing their streak when they should have just taken a day or two off, but which do you think is more impressive?
Brett Favre - 291 Consecutive Starts over 18 years of service in NFL
Cal Ripken - 2632 Consecutive Starts over 16 years of service in MLB
Remember, football is a much more grueling sport as far as injuries are concerned, but the shear amount of games that a baseball player must participate needs to be considered..
no question its favre, playing QB in the nfl, all the hits he's took, and not once missing a game
all ripken had to do was show up, he could go 0 for 4 and have no balls hit to him all night and still get credit for playing in the game
yeh ripken played or had to play in more games but he could just DH somes nights to "rest him" and still keep the streak
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:03 PM
Not to mention when Favre was really injured he would take 2 snaps and leave the game to keep the streak alive.
I don't know if Ripkin did the same or not.
I say Ripkin either way.
wasnt there a bunch of times where he'd DH to keep it going ??
and i think there was sometimes where he'd play the field in the first inning , bat third in the bottom half and call it a day
not sure if that was before or after the 2131
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 06:04 PM
But ripken never dhed how many games did favre start then come out of
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Oh and ripken had a consecutive inning streak of 8243 close to 920 straight games
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:12 PM
But ripken never dhed how many games did favre start then come out of
wasnt sure so i checked
according to baseball reference.com he never dh'ed during the streak before or after he broke it
and for the most part he played complete games ( 9 innings ) ... after around the first 1000 games he started to have a sporadic few games where he'd come out early
then around 1500 the coming out early happened a lil more frequently but nothing huge
im not sure on the favre thing, i'll try to google it and see what i find
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 06:14 PM
why isn't this Ripkin versus Jim Marshall, since Marshall started more consecutive football games than Favre?
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:21 PM
Brett Favre's Injuries
Car Accident July 14, 1990
Separated Shoulder Nov. 15, 1992
Hip Pointer Oct. 20, 1994*
Sprained Ankle Nov. 5, 1995*
Seizure Off-season, 1996**
Sprained Thumb Preseason, 1999
Tendonitis Preseason, 2000
Mid-foot Sprain Nov. 12, 2000*
Sprained Knee Oct. 20, 2002*
Broken Thumb Oct. 19, 2003
Concussion Oct. 3, 2004*
Pinched Nerve in Arm Nov. 19, 2006*
Left game due to injury*
Result of his addiction to painkillers**
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:24 PM
why isn't this Ripkin versus Jim Marshall, since Marshall started more consecutive football games than Favre?
b/c jeff feagles broke the record
lleeder
02-13-2009, 06:27 PM
How's car accident an injury? To steal from the great Brian Regan "Hey I have car accident I'm in alot of pain"
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 06:29 PM
b/c jeff feagles broke the record
that was for games played, not starts. Although I see Farve had more playoff starts? I am a little confused, but it says
He played in 282 consecutive games, a record since surpassed by Jeff Feagles. He still holds the record for documented consecutive starts with 270[1] although there is a question as to whether his consecutive starts streak is 270 or 282 due to a lack of documentation of his streak as a member of the Cleveland Browns.[2]
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:32 PM
How's car accident an injury? To steal from the great Brian Regan "Hey I have car accident I'm in alot of pain"
its up there b/c it almost ended his career before it began
On July 14 th, 1990, Favre was involved in a car accident that not only put his future career in jeopardy, but also his life. Doctors treated him for a concussion, lacerations, and cracked vertebrae, along with 30 inches of his small intestines that were removed following complications.
Miraculously, Favre returned to quarterback his Southern Miss team to an 8-4 record during his senior year with the Golden Eagles. Favres first game back was an upset victory over Alabama on September 8 th, just eight weeks after his accident.
cougarjake13
02-13-2009, 06:40 PM
that was for games played, not starts. Although I see Farve had more playoff starts? I am a little confused, but it says
He played in 282 consecutive games, a record since surpassed by Jeff Feagles. He still holds the record for documented consecutive starts with 270[1] although there is a question as to whether his consecutive starts streak is 270 or 282 due to a lack of documentation of his streak as a member of the Cleveland Browns.[2]
yeh favre has 269 reg season
291 overall
marshall has 270 as a viking, played 12 games as a brown in 1960, i guess they cant confirm if he played/started in those
played in 19 playoff games, so if its 270 plus 19 he has 289 and favre has 2 more
if they ever include those other 12 he'll still have both records
Freakshow
02-13-2009, 06:46 PM
I honestly had no clue. I thought he passed whomever ages ago (I thought it was a OL, too).
underdog
02-13-2009, 06:56 PM
But ripken never dhed how many games did favre start then come out of
2.
lleeder
02-13-2009, 06:59 PM
2.
What a slacker.
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 07:11 PM
2.
wrong 6
Ripken's is pretty good but all of you arguing have no clue what football players to through every day, the NFL is a lot more stressing on your body than MLB, its why their careers are so short.
RhinoinMN
02-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Ripken's is pretty good but all of you arguing have no clue what football players to through every day, the NFL is a lot more stressing on your body than MLB, its why their careers are so short.
True, but both games deliver two different types of stress to ones body. There are so many games in baseball that players can afford to take a game off every now and then to recuperate.
In football the players need most of the week to recupe.
The fact that a baseball players career is longer and a player can sustain his streak seems more impressive to me.
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 07:59 PM
Ripken's is pretty good but all of you arguing have no clue what football players to through every day, the NFL is a lot more stressing on your body than MLB, its why their careers are so short.
i think most of us have an idea what football players go through not to mention travel and the stress that puts on a baseball player
btw how is that pitchers mound cheating research going you will be giving proof about that right
The fact that a baseball players career is longer and a player can sustain his streak seems more impressive to me.
Well since you can basically take a night off by playing a little less aggressive and no one will notice, if farve did that they would talk about how shitty he has gotten.
i think most of us have an idea what football players go through not to mention travel and the stress that puts on a baseball player
btw how is that pitchers mound cheating research going you will be giving proof about that right
Unless you have played then you have no idea, I only made it to varsity for a couple of seasons and baseball was a vacation compared to football, hell even basket ball was harder than baseball over a season.
I didnt really give a shit about the pitching mound but its nice to know it bothered you even though its obvious that they changed it to increase offensive out put. Oh well go argue in that thread.
Knowledged_one
02-13-2009, 08:16 PM
Actually i played in college so i think i have a clue. And good comparison hs sports and pro sports
and the pitcher mound thing you made the claim not us you lost credibility not us
Actually i played in college so i think i have a clue. And good comparison hs sports and pro sports
Im sure you did play in college, but just throwing the ball around with your frat brothers doesnt really count as playing in college. And it wasnt a comparison of the two levels, it was a comparison of a personal experience which is valid since they are the same level, I wasnt fucking comparing hs baseball and pro football you fucking moron.
and the pitcher mound thing you made the claim not us you lost credibility not us
Really, that made me lose credibilty? All of you were the ones making assumptions that people were juicing, doctoring the ball, and stealing the signs with zero actual proof. Fact remains that aaron doesnt have 3 positive tests but somehow just because some blogger writes it all of you want to accept it as truth and any other reasons are ignored.
The Jays
02-13-2009, 08:38 PM
I don't think either streak is impressive. To keep a spot on the field on days when you are not 100% is a burden on your team... it's seems so fucking selfish to not take a day off every once in a while just because it's important to set some sort of record, it's like the kid at school who maintains 100% attendance just so he can get his or her name announced at the end of the year.
TheMojoPin
02-13-2009, 09:13 PM
Really, that made me lose credibilty? All of you were the ones making assumptions that people were juicing, doctoring the ball, and stealing the signs with zero actual proof. Fact remains that aaron doesnt have 3 positive tests but somehow just because some blogger writes it all of you want to accept it as truth and any other reasons are ignored.
Nobody is saying Aaron juiced for sure. Some of us simply think it's a possibility. There's really no reason he is totally above suspicion given that use of PED's in baseball can arguably go back 40-45 years.
I'm still curious as to which teams were gettin away with using 15 inch mounds 2-3 years after they were lowered.
Nobody is saying Aaron juiced for sure. Some of us simply think it's a possibility. There's really no reason he is totally above suspicion given that use of PED's in baseball can arguably go back 40-45 years.
I'm still curious as to which teams were gettin away with using 15 inch mounds 2-3 years after they were lowered.
I never said they didnt lower them, I said that they didnt completely enforce regulations but that is still rumor just a little bit stronger than that guys link about aaron using steroids. I could post stats of certain teams or ballparks but it really doesnt mean shit, just like his link, that guy is a moron. Oh and if you read espn it shows bonds is in a whole lot of trouble even if anderson doesnt testify.
Philip
02-21-2009, 10:41 PM
Favre .............baseball players just stand there.
Marc with a c
02-22-2009, 12:41 AM
cal.
because his is absolutely unbreakable.
TheMojoPin
02-22-2009, 09:02 AM
I never said they didnt lower them, I said that they didnt completely enforce regulations but that is still rumor just a little bit stronger than that guys link about aaron using steroids. I could post stats of certain teams or ballparks but it really doesnt mean shit, just like his link, that guy is a moron. Oh and if you read espn it shows bonds is in a whole lot of trouble even if anderson doesnt testify.
It's a ridiculous rumor. For one, it would benefit both teams playing, so it makes no sense for the home team to keep the mound higher since the visiting team could easily benefit from it just as much. And who even talks like the mounds were still 5 inches higher years after the fact? Where was this "rumor" ever discussed?
cougarjake13
02-22-2009, 02:22 PM
It's a ridiculous rumor. For one, it would benefit both teams playing, so it makes no sense for the home team to keep the mound higher since the visiting team could easily benefit from it just as much. And who even talks like the mounds were still 5 inches higher years after the fact? Where was this "rumor" ever discussed?
he's from earth 2 so excuse him if he hasnt caught up on our culture yet
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