2009 New York Mets Discussion

[brettmojo]

There are currently 12 teams in baseball with losing records. People still show up at their games. If you only cheer for your team when they are winning then you are a bad fan.
There's a difference between supporting your team no matter their record and supporting the Mets.

[foodcourtdruide]

There's a difference between supporting your team no matter their record and supporting the Mets.

Hmm, why's that?

[cougarjake13]

who in the fuck is cory sullivan ??

[foodcourtdruide]

who in the fuck is cory sullivan ??

My favorite part, is this completely obscure career minor leaguer bats SIXTH in our line-up!

[cougarjake13]

My favorite part, is this completely obscure career minor leaguer bats SIXTH in our line-up!

if not for wright and francoer he might be batting cleanup




i hope they get no hit tonight

[lleeder]

francoeur ducking miht be the greatest thing ever

[MC Pee Pants]

who in the fuck is cory sullivan ??

He's in MLB 09 The Show....and he blows. Bernazard for manager, lets get this shit going.

[foodcourtdruide]

francoeur ducking miht be the greatest thing ever

That was the 8th most embarrassing defensice play this year for the Mets

[MC Pee Pants]

That was the 8th most embarrassing defensice play this year for the Mets

That made me smile, then punch the desk.

[hammersavage]

Game times this series: 2:15, 2:20, 2:20.


I appreciate them losing fast

[cougarjake13]

can we just simulate the rest of the year and get it over already

[PD]

Jim Breuer, Met fan (http://huggingharoldreynolds.blogspot.com/2009/07/jim-breuer-puts-being-mets-fan-into.html)

Comedian and well-known Mets fan Jim Breuer had the following to say about being a Mets fan this morning, while appearing as a guest on WMMR in Philadelphia:

“They suck. It’s like being in love with an alcoholic. It’s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, ‘Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,’ and you’re like, ‘Nah, you don’t know her like I do.’”

[sailor]

That was the 8th most embarrassing defensice play this year for the Mets

i don't normally check this thread, so this may have been mentioned already, but espn did a top 10 worst plays of the year during the all-star break...and 3 were by mets players.

[foodcourtdruide]

i don't normally check this thread, so this may have been mentioned already, but espn did a top 10 worst plays of the year during the all-star break...and 3 were by mets players.

I was listing them at work:

- Castillo dropped fly.
- Church missing 3B.
- F-Mart falling in outfield.
- Pelfrey falling off mound.
- Daniel Murphey in the outfield.

Wasn't there a balking incident this year too?

[MC Pee Pants]

Pelfrey, Balkfest 09'.

[cougarjake13]

i don't normally check this thread, so this may have been mentioned already, but espn did a top 10 worst plays of the year during the all-star break...and 3 were by mets players.

they also did a mets worst not so top ten

[NickyL0885]

Seriously, just blow the team up. Trade whatever at the deadline. In the off-season, trade either Reyes or Beltran. I'd love to do Reyes to Texas for Elvis Andrus(SS), Jarrod Saltalamacchia(C) and a pitcher like Scott Feldman(SP) or Brandon McCarthy(SP) or I'd take Chris Davis(1B). Now, If Beltran is traded, Boston would be a good fit. Get back Ellsbury, Lowrie and maybe Bowden or Masterson. I know this is real life and not MLB The Show, but even Fox Sports said Texas would be a good partner for unloading Reyes.

[hammersavage]

10 runs and this doesn't get bumped? For shame...

[MC Pee Pants]

10 runs and this doesn't get bumped? For shame...

Speechless...This means they score 3 runs in the next 5 games.

[cougarjake13]

10 runs and this doesn't get bumped? For shame...

no one cares anymore

[NickyL0885]

back to back wins. I bet the team spins this, as to mean they are back in the hunt for a playoff spot. Colorado, Arizona and St. Louis come into town coming up. If there is anything positive to take, its that Jeff Francoeur has played well. 14 RBIs in 12 games played, including 2 HRs.

[hammersavage]

Frenchy has been nice so far. I bet he leads the team in RBI, just counting the ones as a Met.

They will play well before the deadline to convince themselves that they are contenders, stupidly.

[foodcourtdruide]

Frenchy has been nice so far. I bet he leads the team in RBI, just counting the ones as a Met.

They will play well before the deadline to convince themselves that they are contenders, stupidly.

I don't think so. I bet they have already internally made the decision that they're going to use the trade deadline for next season. I think that's what was behind the Church/Francouer deal. I'm pretty sure Feliciano/Green and possibly Livan and Schneider will not be on this team after the deadline.

[SP1!]

Seriously, just blow the team up. Trade whatever at the deadline. In the off-season, trade either Reyes or Beltran. I'd love to do Reyes to Texas for Elvis Andrus(SS), Jarrod Saltalamacchia(C) and a pitcher like Scott Feldman(SP) or Brandon McCarthy(SP) or I'd take Chris Davis(1B). Now, If Beltran is traded, Boston would be a good fit. Get back Ellsbury, Lowrie and maybe Bowden or Masterson. I know this is real life and not MLB The Show, but even Fox Sports said Texas would be a good partner for unloading Reyes.
Do you really think texas would trade 3 guys for reyes? And they are not going to trade a potential superstar SS and a great catcher for reyes.

God everytime I think about that trade it makes me sick, worst trade the braves ever made, if you are going to trade for someone like Mark Teixeira then at least have him signed to a long term deal before trading that much for him.

And the only way the mets will get better is to start at the top and fire every one from wilpon on down

[joeyballsack]

No way would Boston give up that much for Beltran.

[SP1!]

back to back wins. I bet the team spins this, as to mean they are back in the hunt for a playoff spot. Colorado, Arizona and St. Louis come into town coming up. If there is anything positive to take, its that Jeff Francoeur has played well. 14 RBIs in 12 games played, including 2 HRs.

Yeah dont get spoiled on francoeur, he has cycles and soon you will be telling them to bench him just like we did in atlanta, imagine that, without the rally killer the braves have went on a nice winning stretch. We couldnt buy a series win while he was here, now hes gone and I dont think we have lost a series.

[Servo]

SPY REPORT... SPY REPORT... Bernazard got the boot. Minaya press conference at 3:30.

[hammersavage]

Thank god. They finally did a classy move. Now dfa Tatis and I can live

[PD]

Thank god. They finally did a classy move. Now dfa Tatis and I can live

exactly,

I was beginning to believe Bernazzard would remain due to Jeff; that is almost more embarrassing than the team play (last 2 games not withstanding)

[Servo]

Interesting comment by Minaya... claims Adam Rubin, the Daily News reporter who broke the Bernazard story, had previously "lobbied" for a position in player development in the Mets organization.

Rubin's at the press conference and is now calling Minaya out on it.

[PD]

Interesting comment by Minaya... claims Adam Rubin, the Daily News reporter who broke the Bernazard story, had previously "lobbied" for a position in player development in the Mets organization.

Rubin's at the press conference and is now calling Minaya out on it.

yeah, i thought that was pretty amazing.

I like Minaya, but he has no filter. He is the opposite of Steve Phillips, who was very cautious over his words

[NickyL0885]

Omar just made this worse. He clearly was mad that he had to fire Bernazard and he blams Rubin for his story, which basically forced Omar to fire Barnazard since too much stuff was out there. I wonder how the Wilpons will react. Rubin will probably tear the team a new one and im sure the other reporters will follow suit. Omar better have proof that Rubin lobbied for a job.

[foodcourtdruide]

Interesting comment by Minaya... claims Adam Rubin, the Daily News reporter who broke the Bernazard story, had previously "lobbied" for a position in player development in the Mets organization.

Rubin's at the press conference and is now calling Minaya out on it.

What's his point? If the story is untrue, why are they firing Bernazard to begin with? What the fuck is Minaya doing?

[K.C.]

What the fuck is Minaya doing?

This question could have been posed at any point during the last three years.

[foodcourtdruide]

This question could have been posed at any point during the last three years.

I don't think that's fair. He's made some decent moves (and some bad ones). I don't understand what he gets out of fighting with Rubin though. Even if Omar is 100x right, who cares? What happened already happened, Rubin having alterior motives proves nothing.

[NickyL0885]

I think Omar gets fired over this. He has too. What was supposed to be a simple new conference turned into another show. This was supposed to put an end to the Bernazard story. Instead, Omar created another story. Put out one fire, set another.

[K.C.]

I think Omar gets fired over this. He has too. What was supposed to be a simple new conference turned into another show. This was supposed to put an end to the Bernazard story. Instead, Omar created another story. Put out one fire, set another.

Beningo's accusing the Wilpons of giving Omar the marching orders to go after Rubin.

WFAN will ratchet this up to a whole new level in the next couple days with the hysteria they can drum up.

[foodcourtdruide]

Beningo's accusing the Wilpons of giving Omar the marching orders to go after Rubin.

WFAN will ratchet this up to a whole new level in the next couple days with the hysteria they can drum up.

They do that with anything that happens with the Mets. Remember a few years ago when Willie Randolph got fired, and they made a big deal over him having made the trip to play the Angels? What on Earth was the big deal with that? All he had to do was take an extra flight. They made it look like they fired him like Eric Bischoff fired the referee with cancer on Nitro.

WFAN sucks.

[PD]

Beningo's accusing the Wilpons of giving Omar the marching orders to go after Rubin.

WFAN will ratchet this up to a whole new level in the next couple days with the hysteria they can drum up.

Michael Kay on 1050 ESPN saying same.

and going back to KC on Omar, as a GM Omar is a "C+".
he's not been good but he hasn't been bad.

this nonsense accusing Rubin is so unnecessary and makes them look like buffoons.

this is 1980's Yankees (of the George Costanza era)

[lleeder]

Michael K basically said this is worst thing that any GM has ever done.

[foodcourtdruide]

Michael K basically said this is worst thing that any GM has ever done.

Lol. That's not surprising. Michael K is terrible.

[PD]

Seth Everett later on 1050 played the "press briefing" with Jeff Wilpon and Omar.
Omar kept saying that he regretted talking about Rubin "in that forum". Awful.

Jeff basically said Rubin asking about general questions about jobs in MLB and was not unusual.

Omar's attempt to diffuse obviously was at Jeff's behest and he didn't say he was wrong- just wrong time.

[hammersavage]

Always said stick with Tatis. Love that guy!

[BeerBandit]

Tatis!!!

[MC Pee Pants]

My little brother and I were shitting all over Tatis when Jerry put him in...Then we embraced for the first time since his birth.

Also Fuck ESPN...they are covering this Mets firing all wrong. Saying the firing wasn't warranted and that Bernazard is a great guy who did nothing wrong. I hate ESPN, they need to just show me highlights.

[K.C.]

My little brother and I were shitting all over Tatis when Jerry put him in...Then we embraced for the first time since his birth.

Also Fuck ESPN...they are covering this Mets firing all wrong. Saying the firing wasn't warranted and that Bernazard is a great guy who did nothing wrong. I hate ESPN, they need to just show me highlights.

I saw what they did on Baseball Tonight last night.

It was pretty obvious Eduardo Perez had no clue what he was talking about and was trying to defend his friend.

I think Phillips actually blasted the Mets organization pretty well, although in a covert kind of way. If you read between his words, he was basically saying the Wilpons encourage this kind of behavior by how they run their organization.

[PD]

My little brother and I were shitting all over Tatis when Jerry put him in...Then we embraced for the first time since his birth.

Also Fuck ESPN...they are covering this Mets firing all wrong. Saying the firing wasn't warranted and that Bernazard is a great guy who did nothing wrong. I hate ESPN, they need to just show me highlights.

I saw what they did on Baseball Tonight last night.

It was pretty obvious Eduardo Perez had no clue what he was talking about and was trying to defend his friend.

I think Phillips actually blasted the Mets organization pretty well, although in a covert kind of way. If you read between his words, he was basically saying the Wilpons encourage this kind of behavior by how they run their organization.

all they needed to do was speak to their NY radio affiliate.

[PD]

Team is actually playing well.
I'm going tomorrow, and of course I'm anticipating a bad outing

[hammersavage]

I'll be there tonight. Probably in the rain.

[PD]

I'll be there tonight. Probably in the rain.

the one good thing about my seats in Promenade 515 row 15- its somewhat covered.

So now Cliff Lee is a Philly? at least not Doc Halladay.

[NickyL0885]

Rays looking to trade Kazmir, Crawford and Pena. They want to get Martinez from the Indians and willing to trade Kazmir and a bat to another team to free up money. Should the Mets jump in? Kazmir and Crawford to the Mets? Sure, it prob wont happen but it would be awesome if it did. Kazmir as the 1-A behind Santana and Crawford with his speed and great D at the top of the line up and in left field..........wow...

[joeyballsack]

Who would the Mets send to get Crawford/Kazmir ?

[Marc with a c]

ollie for kazmir would bring this thing full circle.

[NickyL0885]

Who would the Mets send to get Crawford/Kazmir ?

Maybe the Mets should make it a 3-Team trade. Martinez to TB, Indians get prospects and Mets get Kazmir/Crawford. Hell, id even just take Crawford.

[foodcourtdruide]

Crawford is currently signed thru 2010. So you're basically getting one year of Carl Crawford for our best prospect. I don't think I'd do it.

[PD]

7-0 mfers.......


(I know we aren't as good as phils yet but its better than its been)

[NickyL0885]

Metsblog saying Indians offered Victor Martinez to the Mets but Omar turned it down. Oy vey. Why does the man still have a job.

[hammersavage]

Metsblog saying Indians offered Victor Martinez to the Mets but Omar turned it down. Oy vey. Why does the man still have a job.

Well for what. I wanted VMart but not for Halladay type prospects.

[foodcourtdruide]

Metsblog saying Indians offered Victor Martinez to the Mets but Omar turned it down. Oy vey. Why does the man still have a job.

How on Earth does Victor Martinez make sense for this team right now? He is a good player, but he's a catcher who won't play everyday and missed a lot of time last year. He is not the difference between a playoff team and a mediocare team. Why trade our future (Niese, F-Mart) for him?

[NickyL0885]

How on Earth does Victor Martinez make sense for this team right now? He is a good player, but he's a catcher who won't play everyday and missed a lot of time last year. He is not the difference between a playoff team and a mediocare team. Why trade our future (Niese, F-Mart) for him?

He plays 1st and catches. So, he could play everyday. Hes going to Boston anyways so its moot at this point. Im just tired of hearing "we are in a way making a trade with getting Reyes, Delgado, Beltran and the rest back". Who says those guys will do great right away, let alone at all?

[foodcourtdruide]

He plays 1st and catches. So, he could play everyday. Hes going to Boston anyways so its moot at this point. Im just tired of hearing "we are in a way making a trade with getting Reyes, Delgado, Beltran and the rest back". Who says those guys will do great right away, let alone at all?

I agree, which is why I think getting Martinez is a mistake.

[BeerBandit]

And to that, getting Adam Laroche would be a mistake too.

I wouldn't mind James Loney, however.

[foodcourtdruide]

And to that, getting Adam Laroche would be a mistake too.

I wouldn't mind James Loney, however.

If they give up absolutely nothing for LaRoche I wouldn't mind it. Wouldn't him signing elsewhere get us some draft picks? It would actually be pretty smart if it does.

[PD]

Adam LaRoche back to the Braves (according to WFAN)

oh and Victor Martinez went to Red Sox (if you didnt see)

[hammersavage]

Adam LaRoche back to the Braves (according to WFAN)

oh and Victor Martinez went to Red Sox (if you didnt see)

Good. I didn't want LaRoche when I think we have a decent rhythm lately.

But I did want VMart. For the right price but I wanted him.

[PD]

Good. I didn't want LaRoche when I think we have a decent rhythm lately.

But I did want VMart. For the right price but I wanted him.

I love VMart, but 30 yr old catchers always make me nervous.
At least he can also play 1b, but yeah, high price.
Cleveland has agreed to trade C/1B Victor Martinez to the Red Sox, SI.com has learned.

The deal is believed to include right-hander Justin Masterson. MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo reports that another player involved is lefty prospect Nick Hagadone. And SI.com's Tom Verducci says minor league right-hander Bryan Price could also be headed to Cleveland. Coveted Red Sox pitcher Clay Buchholz is not included in the deal, SI.com has learned. Hard-throwing reliever Daniel Bard won't be involved either, as Cleveland only wants starters.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think the Mets are making a mistake not being sellers at the deadline. I think Feliciano/Green could probably land you something decent that we could use for next season.

[PD]

I think the Mets are making a mistake not being sellers at the deadline. I think Feliciano/Green could probably land you something decent that we could use for next season.

maybe, but Feliciano will be needed next year.

[cougarjake13]

He plays 1st and catches. So, he could play everyday. Hes going to Boston anyways so its moot at this point. Im just tired of hearing "we are in a way making a trade with getting Reyes, Delgado, Beltran and the rest back". Who says those guys will do great right away, let alone at all?



even if thats true its too late for it too matter

[Servo]

A little late, but -

PAGAN!!

[PD]

even if thats true its too late for it too matter

that's the point. This far in, it's all about 2010- and seeing if they can figure out who should stay and who should leave. Anything else, like tonight's Pagan GS is a bonus.

[NickyL0885]

If anything, in the offseason, the team needs a starting pitcher. I don't expect Livan back. Who knows if Maine will be healthy, let alone with the team still. Locks are Santana, Pelf, Perez(sadly) and i'll add Niese in there unless hes traded. Whos available? Isn't John Lackey a free agent? Id make a run for him.

[cougarjake13]

If anything, in the offseason, the team needs a starting pitcher. I don't expect Livan back. Who knows if Maine will be healthy, let alone with the team still. Locks are Santana, Pelf, Perez(sadly) and i'll add Niese in there unless hes traded. Whos available? Isn't John Lackey a free agent? Id make a run for him.

lackeys a free agent after this year ends

[lleeder]

lackeys a yankee after this year ends

fixed it for you

[cougarjake13]

fixed it for you

quite possible

[PD]

fixed it for you

maybe yes, maybe no.
Rumor has it that one reason Washburn (and other starting pitchers moved) aren't Yankees are Hank has tightened the purse strings after the Texiera signing.

[hammersavage]

I get to see 22 ground ball outs and Pujols tonight. At least its nice out.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I get to see 22 ground ball outs and Pujols tonight. At least its nice out.


best chance for a win, Mamas of Corona on the promenade level, Italian Cut Cut Hero with fresh Mozzarella Marinated Mushrooms and Roasted Peppers, please eat so I can live vicariously through u


I will not pay 20- 50 bucks for a seat just get that sammich

[hammersavage]

best chance for a win, Mamas of Corona on the promenade level, Italian Cut Cut Hero with fresh Mozzarella Marinated Mushrooms and Roasted Peppers, please eat so I can live vicariously through u

I had that my first trip. Last week I finally got Shake Shack cuz of the rain. Today, I think I'm gonna rock a taco or eat in the Promenade Club like a fancy person.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I had that my first trip. Last week I finally got Shake Shack cuz of the rain. Today, I think I'm gonna rock a taco or eat in the Promenade Club like a fancy person.


Promenade Club, nice, feed $$ into Angel Berroas salary


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im jealous

[MC Pee Pants]

Last nights game was like the last 3 years of Mets baseball rolled into one.

[hammersavage]

Last nights game was like the last 3 years of Mets baseball rolled into one.

HOW BOUT BEING THERE IN PERSON?!?!?!??!

[Kevin]

Promenade Club, nice, feed $$ into Angel Berroas salary


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im jealous

You're welcome for Berroa btw.

[BeerBandit]

Da-vid Wriiiiight!

[hammersavage]

Niese is out for the year.

[hammersavage]

There is some hex going on here.


Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Friday]

There is some hex going on here.


Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

you have noone but yourself to blame.

[PD]

There is some hex going on here.


Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Did KC visit citifield before it opened and buried a Mr Met voodoo doll?



:down:

[Servo]

Niese is out for the year.

What the fuck happened to Niese?

[PD]

What the fuck happened to Niese?

injured in 2nd inning-

[Servo]

Just switched on the FAN... he blew out his knee?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

why is raining salt on the wound that is the NY Mets

[PD]

OK, report is better.

right hamstring strain for niese

[Snoogans]

Does it really matter? If you guys got everybody back today you wouldnt make the playoffs

[foodcourtdruide]

I really blame Minaya for not going out and replacing Delgado and Reyes immediately. If we could have gotten Nick Johnson and some depth up the middle I'd bet this team would be competing for a wildcard right now.

[hammersavage]

you have noone but yourself to blame.

I'm the last person to blame ever for anything

[PD]

Does it really matter? If you guys got everybody back today you wouldnt make the playoffs

yes it does, cause we were hoping to give young Niese a chance to show what he has- its not about this season anymore.

if anyone missed HOW it happened,
Jon Niese left today’s game in the second inning with an injury to his right leg after stretching to receive an attempted double-play relay at first base.

Niese threw one warm up pitch after the play and collapsed in pain. He was helped off the field by trainers and appeared unable to put any weight on the leg.

[PD]

I really blame Minaya for not going out and replacing Delgado and Reyes immediately. If we could have gotten Nick Johnson and some depth up the middle I'd bet this team would be competing for a wildcard right now.

I dont;

I can deal with this season being lost; I don't want NEXT to be lost too.

[foodcourtdruide]

I dont;

I can deal with this season being lost; I don't want NEXT to be lost too.

Before Beltran got hurt I didn't think the season was lost. They put NO ONE around Wright and Beltran in the lineup. After Cora got hurt too, SS was basically a rotating door of minor leaguers. Why not go out and get someone?

[PD]

Before Beltran got hurt I didn't think the season was lost. They put NO ONE around Wright and Beltran in the lineup. After Cora got hurt too, SS was basically a rotating door of minor leaguers. Why not go out and get someone?

remember that Reyes was supposed to come back in early July- no reason to give up too much then.

I blame Minaya more for not having SS depth in the minor leagues.

hell, they might as well bring up Wilmer Flores, or let Rey Ordonez Jr. (Ruben Tejada) as play awful Berroa (how he has come down from his ROY year)

edit:

Now Sheff is re-injured?

[hammersavage]

The lack of organizational depth is to blame. Bernazard was part of that. Omar is part. But that's to blame.

And that stemmed from panic moves and bad scouting.

[hammersavage]

AND GOODBYE SHEFFIELD!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT THE FUCKJKLIO:EF*OP WEFFVVGDRBVU(_J(_WRJVG JWRGJOWVG

[disneyspy]

AND GOODBYE SHEFFIELD!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT THE FUCKJKLIO:EF*OP WEFFVVGDRBVU(_J(_WRJVG JWRGJOWVG

told ya so

[foodcourtdruide]

remember that Reyes was supposed to come back in early July- no reason to give up too much then.

I blame Minaya more for not having SS depth in the minor leagues.

hell, they might as well bring up Wilmer Flores, or let Rey Ordonez Jr. (Ruben Tejada) as play awful Berroa (how he has come down from his ROY year)

Maybe I just don't believe they ever really believed he'd have a chance to come back so soon. I wouldn't have rushed the kids up. I'm especially upset because Cabrera and Johnson could have both been had for seemingly little in return.

[PD]

Maybe I just don't believe they ever really believed he'd have a chance to come back so soon. I wouldn't have rushed the kids up. I'm especially upset because Cabrera and Johnson could have both been had for seemingly little in return.

but at this stage, why give up ANYTHING for this year?
I agree those 2 would be useful, and I've said I'd like Johnson for next year.

I dont think the Nats were moving him cheaply in June.

[foodcourtdruide]

but at this stage, why give up ANYTHING for this year?
I agree those 2 would be useful, and I've said I'd like Johnson for next year.

I dont think the Nats were moving him cheaply in June.

At the deadline I agree that it was too late. I'd be interested to know what the Nats were asking in June.

[hammersavage]

Jon Niese has a complete tear of the right upper hamstring tendon from the bone.

:furious::sad::flush::surrender::glurps: :thumbdown: :down::help:

[PD]

no need to worry now.

The Mets have traded minor-league infielder Greg Veloz to the Nationals for infielder Anderson Hernandez.

Hernandez is expected to join the Mets tomorrow in San Diego.

Hernandez, 26, hit .251 with 12 extra base hits and 23 RBI in 77 games with the Nationals this season.

…anderson has already been on the disabled list this season, so at least he got it out of the way…

The 21–year-old Veloz had been hitting .232 with 18 stolen bases in 91 games in Single-A for the Mets.

[hammersavage]

A-HERN's back!

[cougarjake13]

A-HERN's back!

well whoop dee damn do

[MC Pee Pants]

Put David Wright in a bubble, enough with the fucking injuries. Lets go Mets. They're still in this.

[TripleSkeet]

They still playing?

[razorboy]

They still playing?

Who?

[cougarjake13]

wouldnt surprise me at all if the mets signed jason giambi



he may not be hispanic but his italian last name is close enough for minaya to pull the trigger

[PD]

wouldnt surprise me at all if the mets signed jason giambi



he may not be hispanic but his italian last name is close enough for minaya to pull the trigger

that would be a very silly move.

At this stage you don't sign anyone over 30 for the rest of the year.

at this stage as well, Mets might as well finish in the bottom 15, although the FA market isn't very strong this year.

(which is one reason why the Yankees went balls out for FA's last year)

[cougarjake13]

that would be a very silly move.

At this stage you don't sign anyone over 30 for the rest of the year.

at this stage as well, Mets might as well finish in the bottom 15, although the FA market isn't very strong this year.

(which is one reason why the Yankees went balls out for FA's last year)

im not saying they should just that it wouldnt surprise me

[NickyL0885]

I hope the Mets finish in the bottom ten. Its would mean a top 10 draft pick, which is protected. So, they could sign a Type A free agent and not lose the pick.

[newport king]

we've got philly right where we want them.

[cougarjake13]

we've got philly right where we want them.

it would be sweet revenge but it'll never happen

[hammersavage]

Feliciano and Sheffield were claimed by someone off waivers. And for some reason, the Mets pulled them back.


You know, for the stretch run. :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:



Everyone with value must go. Especially Wagner.

[cougarjake13]

Feliciano and Sheffield were claimed by someone off waivers. And for some reason, the Mets pulled them back.


You know, for the stretch run. :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:



Everyone with value must go. Especially Wagner.




feliciano maybe i can understand but sheff ??

cmon i know we aint paying him much but he aint gonna help us do anything so let him go and let some of the younger guys play

[foodcourtdruide]

Feliciano and Sheffield were claimed by someone off waivers. And for some reason, the Mets pulled them back.


You know, for the stretch run. :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:



Everyone with value must go. Especially Wagner.

They probably put them on waivers hoping they'd pass so they could make a deal. Them pulling back may mean they'll make a deal. Why wouldn't they pull back? There's no point in them losing those guys for absolutely nothing.

[cougarjake13]

They probably put them on waivers hoping they'd pass so they could make a deal. Them pulling back may mean they'll make a deal. Why wouldn't they pull back? There's no point in them losing those guys for absolutely nothing.




hopefully thats true

[hammersavage]

hopefully thats true

its not true. when a player is claimed, you can make a deal. if you pull them back after someone claims them, you can no longer trade them.

[MC Pee Pants]

The Mets are silly. If Feliciano left who would replace him, hes a good left arm out of the bullpen. I miss Guillermo Mota...

[hammersavage]

The Mets are silly. If Feliciano left who would replace him, hes a good left arm out of the bullpen. I miss Guillermo Mota...

He signed a one year deal going into this year. He'll be a good left arm out of the bullpen, for a team at least 10 games out and 10 games under .500.


Who cares? Get rid of anything with value that doesn't have a spot next year. And get a catcher for fucks sake

[foodcourtdruide]

its not true. when a player is claimed, you can make a deal. if you pull them back after someone claims them, you can no longer trade them.

Ah, got'cha, I thought you could pull them back and work out a deal with the team that claimed them. Still, what would the point be of losing them for nothing?

[hammersavage]

Ah, got'cha, I thought you could pull them back and work out a deal with the team that claimed them. Still, what would the point be of losing them for nothing?

when a player is claimed, a trade is worked out. its not for nothing. you pull them back if they will not be traded

[PD]

when a player is claimed, a trade is worked out. its not for nothing. you pull them back if they will not be traded

what hammer said- that's how you trade them.

I think (but may be wrong) that Feliciano is still under Met control next year, so I can understand that. It is possible too that the teams that made the claim didn't make a trade/offer and just wanted to block it. There is no reason to just give those 2 away if you don't get some prospect back - Mets don't need to dump their money.

as for wagner, if you can't trade him, do you gamble and offer him arbitration? if you do that
a) if someone else signs him you get picks
b) if he accepts arbitration (if its not crazy money) you get him to do what you wanted Putz to do.

I'm not so sure how they his injury would affect an arbitration offer.

[PD]

Well nice to see Bobby Parnell with a MUCH better start tonight
(even though he's wearing those hideous throwbacks)

[foodcourtdruide]

At the game right now. Parnell looks good.

[led37zep]

How about that Bengie Molina!!!

[led37zep]

These fucking PIX11 announcers are trying to stir up some shit with Cain tipping his cap when he was boo'd in the 8th. Ugh.


Guess you don't need to mention how Cain called Wright last night. Just stir your shit assholes.

[foodcourtdruide]

So, should they start the "rebuilding" or the "retooling" process next season?

Whatever the case, I hope they go all out on one or the other. If they do rebuild, I think you have to think about moving EVERYONE.

[cougarjake13]

So, should they start the "rebuilding" or the "retooling" process next season?

Whatever the case, I hope they go all out on one or the other. If they do rebuild, I think you have to think about moving EVERYONE.

start it now fuck next season


keep johan and d wright

[hammersavage]

I can't believe the Castillo contract looks totally justified after the way things went down last year. Amazing.

Hopefully the Ollie contract could do the same.

[Doogie]

That Oliver Perez makes Anthony Young look like a pitching genius. Great move by Omar Minaya not signing an effective pitcher like Derek Lowe for a total mental case like Oliver Perez. How is it all of us Mets fans are not storming the CitiField offices demanding Omar's head?

[Snoogans]

That Oliver Perez makes Anthony Young look like a pitching genius. Great move by Omar Minaya not signing an effective pitcher like Derek Lowe for a total mental case like Oliver Perez. How is it all of us Mets fans are not storming the CitiField offices demanding Omar's head?

dont worry, no matter what, Omar will be back next year

[Doogie]

dont worry, no matter what, Omar will be back next year

Maybe next year instead of "Los Mets" he will be bringing in the "Fanta" girls.

[hammersavage]

I'd say I can't believe that just happened but I then I remember what team I root for.



That's just an amazing way to lose a game.

[K.C.]

I'd say I can't believe that just happened but I then I remember what team I root for.



That's just an amazing way to lose a game.

That fucker Bruntlett owed Lidge.

I grant him a reprieve after that.

[KingGeno]

That fucker Bruntlett owed Lidge.

I grant him a reprieve after that.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w126/ragunax/emperorfdamets.jpg

[Doogie]

I dont care that I am a Met fan, that was an awesome play. And considering this season is a loss I say appreciate any little piece of history we can be part of. Even if we are on the receiving side of being punished for such history. Nice fucking play.

Also, hobo cum is worth more than Oliver Perez at this point.

[KingGeno]

You have a very nice ballpark too.

[SP1!]

The mets owners now give all their support to their GM, mets seem to be screwed for years to come....

[lleeder]

Santana to miss his next start with elbow soreness.

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[hammersavage]

shut 'em down, open up shop

[lleeder]

Johan likely to dl. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCifwJDn-ck)

[lleeder]

He'll be ok.

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[PD]

I'd say I can't believe that just happened but I then I remember what team I root for.



That's just an amazing way to lose a game.

I was there and stayed to the end.

yes, it somehow seemed appropriate.

as for Santana injury, Franceour injury and that triple play, can we add a witch doctor to our medical staff?

[NickyL0885]

Rosenthal reporting on MLB Network that Wagner has invoked his No Trade clause. He will remain with the Mets. Most likely, Mets wont pick up his option BUT will offer his arbitration. So, if he signs elsewhere, which he will do, the Mets will land draft picks. Wagner didn't go to Boston b/c A) did not want to be a setup man and B) Although Boston was willing to not pick up his option, they were not willing to not offer him arbitration.

Wagner projects to be a a Type A free agent. So, that would net the Mets two high picks. They could potentially have 2 first round picks and a 1st round compensation round pick. I think the bottom 15 teams first round picks are protected, which the Mets will certainly fall into. So, even if they get a Type A free agent, they cant lose that pick.

[PD]

Rosenthal reporting on MLB Network that Wagner has invoked his No Trade clause. He will remain with the Mets. Most likely, Mets wont pick up his option BUT will offer his arbitration. So, if he signs elsewhere, which he will do, the Mets will land draft picks. Wagner didn't go to Boston b/c A) did not want to be a setup man and B) Although Boston was willing to not pick up his option, they were not willing to not offer him arbitration.

Wagner projects to be a a Type A free agent. So, that would net the Mets two high picks. They could potentially have 2 first round picks and a 1st round compensation round pick. I think the bottom 15 teams first round picks are protected, which the Mets will certainly fall into. So, even if they get a Type A free agent, they cant lose that pick.

As I posted in the other thread, it seems Wagner changed his mind.

(http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9982144/%27Change-of-heart%27:-Wagner-OKs-trade-to-Red-Sox) <!-- BEGIN: [MAIN CONTENT] -->
<!-- Edgeinclude not created for non-existing logical name: /public/story/promoHdr/3498 --> <!-- // Story Title// -->'Change of heart': Wagner OKs trade to Red Sox (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9982144/%27Change-of-heart%27:-Wagner-OKs-trade-to-Red-Sox)

[foodcourtdruide]

As I posted in the other thread, it seems Wagner changed his mind.

(http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9982144/%27Change-of-heart%27:-Wagner-OKs-trade-to-Red-Sox) <!-- BEGIN: [MAIN CONTENT] -->
<!-- Edgeinclude not created for non-existing logical name: /public/story/promoHdr/3498 --> <!-- // Story Title// -->'Change of heart': Wagner OKs trade to Red Sox (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9982144/%27Change-of-heart%27:-Wagner-OKs-trade-to-Red-Sox)

I felt like this was a win-win situation for the Mets. If the trade happened they'd get some prospects and shed 3.5 million, if the trade didn't happen Wagner would likely decline arbitration and the Mets would get 2 draft picks. I heard from a very unreliable source that the prospects were mid-tier. I'm fine with that.

[PD]

I felt like this was a win-win situation for the Mets. If the trade happened they'd get some prospects and shed 3.5 million, if the trade didn't happen Wagner would likely decline arbitration and the Mets would get 2 draft picks. I heard from a very unreliable source that the prospects were mid-tier. I'm fine with that.

I think there was a decent chance (30%?) that he would have accepted arbitration.
Adam Rubin says "The Mets will receive a pair of lower-tier minor-leaguers to be named as part of the deal." which hopefully means Single A, not non-prospects.

I don't know if the 2 draft pics would have been better, but this is safer, and Mets can move on.

[PD]

its official
Santana's season over, should be okay for 2010 (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/08/report-santanas-season-over-sh.html)

[lleeder]

I think there was a decent chance (30%?) that he would have accepted arbitration.
Adam Rubin says "The Mets will receive a pair of lower-tier minor-leaguers to be named as part of the deal." which hopefully means Single A, not non-prospects.

I don't know if the 2 draft pics would have been better, but this is safer, and Mets can move on.

How can you trust what he says? Its obvious he just wants a job with them. Fucking stalker.

[PD]

Putz rehab shelved, Ollie Perez going back to NY for knee examinations,
but don't worry, Pat Misch and Nick Evans are back.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think there was a decent chance (30%?) that he would have accepted arbitration.
Adam Rubin says "The Mets will receive a pair of lower-tier minor-leaguers to be named as part of the deal." which hopefully means Single A, not non-prospects.

I don't know if the 2 draft pics would have been better, but this is safer, and Mets can move on.

I agree. On the mets.com messageboard they're acting like this was the worst move in the history of organized sports, as the two draft picks the Mets were not even guarenteed to get were probably going to be the next Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle.

[PD]

according to WFAN one of the 2 players for Wagner is
Chris Carter (http://www.soxprospects.com/players/carter-chris.htm)

who isn't young for a prospect (26), with good minor leagues numbers.
probably a AAAA type, but we'll see.

[foodcourtdruide]

according to WFAN one of the 2 players for Wagner is
Chris Carter (http://www.soxprospects.com/players/carter-chris.htm)

who isn't young for a prospect (26), with good minor leagues numbers.
probably a AAAA type, but we'll see.

Lefty bat off the bench. Eh. I really hope he's not the better half.

[SP1!]

its official
Santana's season over, should be okay for 2010 (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/08/report-santanas-season-over-sh.html)



He will be ready for next years collapse, congrats.

[K.C.]

Stupid trade.

The Mets desperately need to rebuild their farm system. They traded Wagner to the Red Sox for two, at-best, mediocre prospects, and to save a couple million at the expense of getting two 1st round picks when Wagner walks after the season.

Even if Wagner accepted arbitration, you'd be able to flip him during spring training for a real prospect, because a team would be getting him for the entire year as opposed to a month rental.

[SP1!]

You act like omar has a track record of making good deals, he can spend money thats about it but whats sad is that they are stuck with him as long as they have that crappy owner calling the shots.

[foodcourtdruide]

Stupid trade.

The Mets desperately need to rebuild their farm system. They traded Wagner to the Red Sox for two, at-best, mediocre prospects, and to save a couple million at the expense of getting two 1st round picks when Wagner walks after the season.

Even if Wagner accepted arbitration, you'd be able to flip him during spring training for a real prospect, because a team would be getting him for the entire year as opposed to a month rental.

Do you have to wait a certain amount of time to trade someone after they accept arbitration? I know you do with free agents.

[K.C.]

Not that I'm aware of.

If you don't offer a player arbitration, I don't think you can sign him until May 1st or something, but if you offer it and he accepts, I think he's your property and you can do what you want.

In Wagner's case, it's 99% he wouldn't accept. He has a very limited list of teams he would want to play for next year (or so it's been rumored), and wouldn't expose himself to the league without no-trade protection.

I think that's part of the reason part of the agreement with the Red Sox is that they decline his option for next year.

Rumor has it he wants to pitch for the Nats because he lives in Virginia.

Other than saving a couple bucks, I just don't get the move to trade him.

[PD]

I would have rather held him, but I don't think it's awful.

Keeping him, offering him arbitration was the ballsy, (possibly) big upside move, but this isn't awful. there were a lot of "ifs" to holding him - including the idea that there would be no market for him.

We'll see if chris carter turns out to be anything.

as for SP1 - I've said it before, Omar is a B-/C+ GM. unfortunately the Mets play in the same division as teams (except for the Nats) whose GMs have been better than that.

[foodcourtdruide]

Not that I'm aware of.

If you don't offer a player arbitration, I don't think you can sign him until May 1st or something, but if you offer it and he accepts, I think he's your property and you can do what you want.

In Wagner's case, it's 99% he wouldn't accept. He has a very limited list of teams he would want to play for next year (or so it's been rumored), and wouldn't expose himself to the league without no-trade protection.

I think that's part of the reason part of the agreement with the Red Sox is that they decline his option for next year.

Rumor has it he wants to pitch for the Nats because he lives in Virginia.

Other than saving a couple bucks, I just don't get the move to trade him.

I've been thinking about this and I think its pretty likely he would accept arbitration. He's 38, right? What team would sign a 38 yo closer that just got Tommy John surgery to a deal that would result in the loss of 2 high draft picks?

[NickyL0885]

If Omar is not fired, someone will be. Someone has to be a sacrificed.

[Sinestro]

If Omar is not fired, someone will be. Someone has to be a sacrificed.

The sacrifice has been here and that. The fans that payed full price to still go out to the games to watch a team full of minor league prospects paying full price for concessions, parking and whatever. When you could go to watch the Cyclones or the equivalent for under $50.

[PD]

I've been thinking about this and I think its pretty likely he would accept arbitration. He's 38, right? What team would sign a 38 yo closer that just got Tommy John surgery to a deal that would result in the loss of 2 high draft picks?

add to that, as I said before, the team offering arbitration has to offer 80% of current deal.
His current deal is 10.5 Mil, so they would have to offer at least 8.4M

I can't see him getting 8.4M plus the a team giving up picks so he would have to take less from another team - not a given.

He may do it- Boston thinks its worth the gamble - but it's no slam dunk.

[foodcourtdruide]

add to that, as I said before, the team offering arbitration has to offer 80% of current deal.
His current deal is 10.5 Mil, so they would have to offer at least 8.4M

I can't see him getting 8.4M plus the a team giving up picks so he would have to take less from another team - not a given.

He may do it- Boston thinks its worth the gamble - but it's no slam dunk.

Right. I think people just like to crap on moves made by the Mets. I don't blame them for dumping the $3.5mil and getting some potential 1B/OF depth. There was no guarentee of 2prospects. None at all.

[hammersavage]

Right. I think people just like to crap on moves made by the Mets. I don't blame them for dumping the $3.5mil and getting some potential 1B/OF depth. There was no guarentee of 2prospects. None at all.

Shit, at this point, I trust another organizations scouts to be potentially major league talent way more than the Mets organzation.

[foodcourtdruide]

Cory Sullivan is batting cleanup for tonights game vs. the Marlins. You may ask, "who is Cory Sullivan?" My answer is, "I don't know."

[cougarjake13]

Cory Sullivan is batting cleanup for tonights game vs. the Marlins. You may ask, "who is Cory Sullivan?" My answer is, "I don't know."



do the mets even play anymore ?? i hadnt noticed

[brettmojo]

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[PD]

Buster Olney with not bad post.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster

(I'll post for those who dont get insider)
even possibilities for a Mets front man Thursday, August 27, 2009 | Feedback (http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/mailbagESPN?event_id=6999) | Print Entry (http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=4425744&type=blogEntry)
Ordinary news briefings have become public-relations disasters for the New York Mets (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym), writes Ben Shpigel (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/sports/baseball/27mets.html?_r=1&ref=sports), and members of the team's ownership have endorsed Omar Minaya's return for 2010 but are still evaluating him.
Simply put, Minaya -- who is one of the best-liked people in the game -- will remain as the Mets' general manager. But whether he retains actual power is probably another question altogether. If the Mets don't allow Minaya to represent the organization in public -- and the recent semi-muzzling suggests they have been moving in that direction -- he could have the titles of The President and Prime Minister and Super Chief and the Big Guy Who Runs the Mets and it wouldn't mean a thing. Fred and Jeff Wilpon should ask themselves the hard question of whether they want Minaya to be the face of their franchise, and if the answer is no, well … they should be making phone calls to find the next guy who is.
It remains to be seen whether the Wilpons -- Jeff, in particular, after his slow ascent to power -- will be willing to bring in a big name and hand over the reins of the organization. But there is no doubt about this point: They need a Bill Parcells type, because of their internal dynamics, because of their current quandary, because they are in New York.
They need someone to take control and make their fan base believe that a team with an incredible potential for growth is going to take advantage of its financial might and start building a dynamic farm system while competing at the major league level, as the Boston Red Sox (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos) and, more recently, the New York Yankees (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy) have done.
If the Wilpons decide they want somebody other than Minaya representing the organization, they need someone who is going to be a symbol of dynamic change merely by walking to the podium the first day on the job.
Here are seven candidates -- in no particular order -- some not necessarily available, some not as realistic as others, but all should be considered by the Mets:
To see Buster's list of possible Mets front-man candidates, as well 37 other items on MLB news, notes, injuries and the possible ChiSox debut of Jake Peavy, you must be an ESPN Insider. http://assets.espn.go.com/i/in.gif 1. Billy Beane: He has a contract with Oakland through 2014 and is part owner of the Athletics, and he turned down a chance to go to the Red Sox before Boston turned to Theo Epstein. But Oakland's stadium situation is not close to being resolved; if Beane wants to have a chance to win consistently, he'll have to go elsewhere. His relationship with Athletics owner Lew Wolff seems to be excellent, and if he went to Wolff and asked him for permission to leave, it's hard to imagine Wolff would stand in his way, given the team's stadium problems.
2. Doug Melvin: He has a contract that runs through 2012 to remain with the Brewers as general manager, which makes sense, because he is among the elite GMs in the game -- and he would be perfect for the Mets. He is excellent at organization-building, he is greatly experienced at dealing with the media, he had a taste of New York while working with the Yankees, and his ego (or lack thereof) would suit the Mets well. He would put the organization first. If the Mets wanted to find a new front man, they should at least make the phone call and ask the Brewers for permission, just in case Milwaukee is willing to listen.
3. Bobby Valentine: First and foremost, there is the advantage of familiarity that Valentine has with the organization and the Wilpons have with him. He is a great baseball mind who would serve the organization well, and if the Mets brought him in to be the team's Mike Scioscia -- someone who has the most practical power and dictates a lot of the decisions within the organization -- he'd be a great fit. He and Minaya know each other well, and the hiring of Valentine would allow the Mets to keep Minaya as the GM while assigning the true power to somebody else, because Valentine and Minaya would work well together. Valentine will be available this fall.
4. Tony La Russa: There would be questions about how La Russa would deal with the New York media, but he obviously has all the credentials in player personnel and in managing, and presumably he would bring pitching coach Dave Duncan with him. La Russa's contract is up after this season ends.
5. Buck Showalter: He and Gene Michael built the Yankees dynasty of the '90s, and he would be comfortable running a team in New York -- and maybe he would be well-suited to do this out of the front office, where he could dictate how the minor league system is run and how young players are trained. He is one of the game's best teachers.
6. Pat Gillick: Wherever he goes, he wins, from Toronto to Baltimore to Seattle to Philadelphia, and now that Gillick has indicated he is retired (and he has stunned longtime colleagues by actually taking a European vacation in recent days), he probably won't be interested in taking over the Mets. And even if he did want to come back, he might not want to go with a rival of the Phillies, for whom he works as a special assistant. But again: The Mets should at least ask the question.
7. Mark Shapiro: The Indians' general manager has drawn criticism in Cleveland in the aftermath of a couple of frustrating years for the team, but know this: He is regarded within the industry as one of the game's best general managers. If the Indians were to ever let him go, he would have a job with another team in about 0.4 seconds. The Indians probably wouldn't let him go, and Shapiro is under contract through 2012, but it's worth a phone call.
Oliver Perez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5192) is the latest Mets pitcher to go down (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/sports/baseball/27perez.html?_r=1). Jason McCallum of ESPN Research compiled numbers bearing out the crazy injury situation the Mets have had this year: They've lost 18 All-Star appearances to the DL, in addition to 1,066 HR, 4,091 RBIs and a combined 2009 salary of $94.8 million, which is greater than the Opening Day payroll of 18 teams.

[PD]

according to WFAN one of the 2 players for Wagner is
Chris Carter (http://www.soxprospects.com/players/carter-chris.htm)

who isn't young for a prospect (26), with good minor leagues numbers.
probably a AAAA type, but we'll see.

well, Yankees put a waiver claim for for Chris Carter, meaning that the Mets can't get him until after the season.

He may not be a big deal, but the idea was to give him a chance to play for them for the last month. So in a small way, Yankees stick it to the Mets.

[disneyspy]

hammer,the magic # is 22

[NickyL0885]

I keep hoping the Mets lose every game they play the rest of the way. For two reasons. 1. better draft pick. 2. maybe it would get Omar fired, despite what Wilpon said about him staying.

[razorboy]

I keep hoping the Mets lose every game they play the rest of the way. For two reasons. 1. better draft pick. 2. maybe it would get Omar fired, despite what Wilpon said about him staying.

Don't worry. I'm sure you'll sign an eighty-five year old free agent next year.

[cougarjake13]

Don't worry. I'm sure you'll sign an eighty-five year old free agent next year.

is minioso still alive ??

[lleeder]

Just sell the team you cheap pricks. Mets cancel fall instructional league to save money (http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2009/08/former_ny_mets_gm_jim_duquette.html) There are also rumors they won't be calling up alot of players when rosters expand. It costs 70,000 per player to do so and they want to save the cash.

[asayresk]

Next time you visit Citifield, it will be 25 cents to use the stall in the restroom.

[foodcourtdruide]

Just sell the team you cheap pricks. Mets cancel fall instructional league to save money (http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2009/08/former_ny_mets_gm_jim_duquette.html) There are also rumors they won't be calling up alot of players when rosters expand. It costs 70,000 per player to do so and they want to save the cash.

I'll never trust someone that traded Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.

[foodcourtdruide]

Parnell looked good tonight. Is this teams young players as terrible as everyone says they are?

[cougarjake13]

Parnell looked good tonight. Is this teams young players as terrible as everyone says they are?

worse

[Marc with a c]

there is a chance the mets leader in home runs this season will have 10.

[Cranky Guy]

Lets all talk about complete failures. I'm gonna start a thread about Geraldo finding nothing in Al Capone's vault :annoyed:

[cougarjake13]

Lets all talk about complete failures. I'm gonna start a thread about Geraldo finding nothing in Al Capone's vault :annoyed:




hindsight is great isnt it

[cougarjake13]

there is a chance the mets leader in home runs this season will have 10.

that is so sad

[zildjian361]

Yankees Magic # 9 too early now:wink:

[EddieMoscone]

Going to see another Cyclones game Monday...their pitching is really good. Maybe we have a shot in 2013.

[zildjian361]

Going to see another Cyclones game Monday...their pitching is really good. Maybe we have a shot in 2013.

damn do i miss that Coney Island Boardwalk:down::sad::wub:

[newport king]

just went to citi field for the first time. someone gave the wife tickets and figured it be a nice day. without having an interest in this collection of assholes other than wright and francoeur, i went there as a building/food inspector. here are my complaints..

1. that fucking jackie robinson rotunda is the dumbest thing i've ever seen. i get that the mets aren't a storied franchise but come on. (i realize that has been beaten to death by this point but it was my first time.)

2. i dont know, if i spent 700 million on a building, i'd be pretty pissed that some of the brick work looked like something i'd do over the weekend with supplies from home depot.

3. who are these fucking zombies that can waste 3 innings on line at the shake shack....better yet, who would wait on a line at box frites for a 1/2 hour....for french fries????

4. i was told the tacos are no joke....if wet tortillas and 1 salsa that hints of vomit are no joke...yeah i agree.

5. seats are ugly. green?

Im sure there would be more, but i left after the 3rd inning. in 3 innings i ate the following: 3 tacos sampler, 1 corndog, buffalo bites, a sausage pepper and onion sandwich, 2 pepsis....gotta be honest, wasnt blown away by any of it.

maybe if the team was in it id have had a better time, but i went there expecting to be floored by how good the food is (after hearing about it for months.) and to be wow'd by the new park...fuck them, i wasnt impressed.

[foodcourtdruide]

just went to citi field for the first time. someone gave the wife tickets and figured it be a nice day. without having an interest in this collection of assholes other than wright and francoeur, i went there as a building/food inspector. here are my complaints..

1. that fucking jackie robinson rotunda is the dumbest thing i've ever seen. i get that the mets aren't a storied franchise but come on. (i realize that has been beaten to death by this point but it was my first time.)

2. i dont know, if i spent 700 million on a building, i'd be pretty pissed that some of the brick work looked like something i'd do over the weekend with supplies from home depot.

3. who are these fucking zombies that can waste 3 innings on line at the shake shack....better yet, who would wait on a line at box frites for a 1/2 hour....for french fries????

4. i was told the tacos are no joke....if wet tortillas and 1 salsa that hints of vomit are no joke...yeah i agree.

5. seats are ugly. green?

Im sure there would be more, but i left after the 3rd inning. in 3 innings i ate the following: 3 tacos sampler, 1 corndog, buffalo bites, a sausage pepper and onion sandwich, 2 pepsis....gotta be honest, wasnt blown away by any of it.

maybe if the team was in it id have had a better time, but i went there expecting to be floored by how good the food is (after hearing about it for months.) and to be wow'd by the new park...fuck them, i wasnt impressed.

I'm not overly impressed with the jrr either, it looks like it should be in LA to be honest. I don't like the colors of the seats, but the brick is nice.

You are way way off on the food. I've gone twice and WAS blown away by it. I also really like the pepsi area and all the nice indoor bars.

[newport king]

You are way way off on the food. I've gone twice and WAS blown away by it. I also really like the pepsi area and all the nice indoor bars.

not a drinker so i didnt hit those. it might have been a case of everyone talking the food up so much over the last few months. and not being able to live up to it...i really dont understand the wait for a box of french fries...they're fries!! i dont care how fancy u want to make them. and shake shack was out of the question, as the line looked as if itd take a good hr. and from what ive heard its wendys quality at best.

just disappointed. i can take a shitty team, im used to that, now im not a fan of the building they play in. hopefully improvements will be made. :thumbdown:

[foodcourtdruide]

not a drinker so i didnt hit those. it might have been a case of everyone talking the food up so much over the last few months. and not being able to live up to it...i really dont understand the wait for a box of french fries...they're fries!! i dont care how fancy u want to make them. and shake shack was out of the question, as the line looked as if itd take a good hr. and from what ive heard its wendys quality at best.

just disappointed. i can take a shitty team, im used to that, now im not a fan of the building they play in. hopefully improvements will be made. :thumbdown:

I would just like it to have a bit more of its own identity. I also hate the high walls.

I am really happy with the food though and the common areas, also there are lots of bathrooms. Also, I think its pretty from the outside, its not the best park I've been to, but its not tropicana field.

[EddieMoscone]

Im sure there would be more, but i left after the 3rd inning. in 3 innings i ate the following: 3 tacos sampler, 1 corndog, buffalo bites, a sausage pepper and onion sandwich, 2 pepsis....gotta be honest, wasnt blown away by any of it.

Dude, most of what you ate is the Aramark Food. That stuff is the same as it's always been (in every stadium on the planet) and of course is going to stuck. Nathan's corn dog? Premio Sausage? That's supermarket stuff and not exactly what people have been raving about.

I am in agreement that the tacos are overrated, but if you didn't eat Shake Shack, Blue Smoke, The Seafood Place (love the old bay fries there) or Box Frites, I don't think you can make the statement that the food sucks.

[newport king]

if you didn't eat Shake Shack, Blue Smoke, The Seafood Place (love the old bay fries there) or Box Frites, I don't think you can make the statement that the food sucks.

lines were ridiculously long. i dont care if theyre giving away surf and turf, screw that. im going to have to go in a rainy thursday night in may. how good can box frites be? they're french fries.

[foodcourtdruide]

lines were ridiculously long. i dont care if theyre giving away surf and turf, screw that. im going to have to go in a rainy thursday night in may. how good can box frites be? they're french fries.

I don't mean to go off topic, but is there anything more overrated than sausage and peppers?

[MC Pee Pants]

I don't mean to go off topic, but is there anything more overrated than sausage and peppers?

Makes me shit alot. Not worth it.

[TheGameHHH]

I don't mean to go off topic, but is there anything more overrated than sausage and peppers?

how can a delicious food be overrated?

[cougarjake13]

I don't mean to go off topic, but is there anything more overrated than sausage and peppers?

gives me unruly heartburn

cant eat it anymore

[MC Pee Pants]

I remember this thread. Im glad the last entry had nothing to do with the Mets.

[NickyL0885]

Hey, look on the bright side. The Mets currently would have the 6th overall pick on the draft.

[hammersavage]

Going tonight for some reason (free tickets, parking and caesar's club).

Here's to one last kick in the pants in the cold no less.

[JerseyRich]

Going tonight for some reason (free tickets, parking and caesar's club).

Here's to one last kick in the pants in the cold no less.

There's always the Hall of Science up the street.

[vjr97]

so much for reyes being better than jeter so much for wright being better than a/rod
mets suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 90+ loses ha!!

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm so happy the season will be over soon. I can't imagine what this team will do next year. I don't even know where to begin. I just hope they either go all-in or rebuild. The "re-tool, instead of re-build" mantra rarely works. Please don't turn into baseball's version of the Knicks.

[GregoryJoseph]

I can't believe my Reds are 8 games ahead of the Mets.

I will welcome all bandwagon jumpers.

[Spagett]

I can't believe my Reds are 8 games ahead of the Mets.

I will welcome all bandwagon jumpers.

My Dodgers are doing even better

[PD]

so much for reyes being better than jeter so much for wright being better than a/rod!
this is why I can't listen to sports talk radio.

[foodcourtdruide]

this is why I can't listen to sports talk radio.

Why not??? Sportstalk radio is where I get all my inside sports info. Maine,Parnell and Castillo for Lincecum!

[K.C.]

Why not??? Sportstalk radio is where I get all my inside sports info. Maine,Parnell and Castillo for Lincecum!

Not quite as good as 'player to be named later for Adrian Gonzalez.'

[TheMojoPin]

My Dodgers are doing even better

You're Snoogans?!?

[Spagett]

You're Snoogans?!?

Snoogans?

[TheMojoPin]

Snoogans!

[TheMojoPin]

so much for reyes being better than jeter so much for wright being better than a/rod
mets suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 90+ loses ha!!

You're really gloating over this as if the two teams were stacked up against each other at equal strength?

[Spagett]

Snoogans!

Snoogans?!?

[BlackKen]

You're really gloating over this as if the two teams were stacked up against each other at equal strength?

I would take Reyes over Jeter right now hands down. Arod will always shit on Wright.

And why hasn't anyone questioned Wright not juicing? Is it because he is a wholesome white boy? He is not hitting anything deep, and aany others have hit homers in that ball park

[cougarjake13]

so much for reyes being better than jeter so much for wright being better than a/rod
mets suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 90+ loses ha!!



we had 8/9 ths of our starting lineup out due to injuries for a huge amount of the early season with some continuing for longer

lets see how the yanks woulda done had the same happened to them




the jeter/reyes debate i remember but i dont recall anyone throwing out wright is better than a-rod

[vjr97]

the yanks didnt have a/rod,matsui,damon for long streches and they still came out on top.the yankees are better run than the mets. 15 playoffs in 16 years-the mets cant even make it once+reyes has a drug/alcohol problem.he isnt "injured".remember how gooden,strawberry where "injured" as well.

[foodcourtdruide]

the yanks didnt have a/rod,matsui,damon for long streches and they still came out on top.the yankees are better run than the mets. 15 playoffs in 16 years-the mets cant even make it once+reyes has a drug/alcohol problem.he isnt "injured".remember how gooden,strawberry where "injured" as well.

Lol what?

[TheMojoPin]

the yanks didnt have a/rod,matsui,damon for long streches and they still came out on top.the yankees are better run than the mets.

Are you dense? Do you really not realize how the Yanks' injuries came nowhere near what the Mets had to deal with? Picture constructing a Yankees lineup with nobody but Jeter in there out of all the starters and then talk.

[foodcourtdruide]

Are you dense? Do you really not realize how the Yanks' injuries came nowhere near what the Mets had to deal with? Picture constructing a Yankees lineup with nobody but Jeter in there out of all the starters and then talk.

He just wants to feel his team is better. I blame the Mets for not having the depth to cope with injuries to players that were injury risks (and some that weren't). However, to say the Yankees and the Mets had a similar injury picture this year is wayyyyyyy off. For over a month our line-up was 6 minor leaguers and Castillo/Wright.

[vjr97]

Are you dense? Do you really not realize how the Yanks' injuries came nowhere near what the Mets had to deal with? Picture constructing a Yankees lineup with nobody but Jeter in there out of all the starters and then talk.


yeah yeah yeah.its been nothing but excuses since 1986.

[foodcourtdruide]

yeah yeah yeah.its been nothing but excuses since 1986.

what excuses!? they had a lot of injuries and don't have the depth to recover!

[cougarjake13]

this guy is worse than BDC

hell for all we know it is BDC

[newport king]

Reyes needs surgery. I'm leaving it at that. He got hurt in what seems like may. It's october. He needs surgery.

[tbagnu]

He just wants to feel his team is better. I blame the Mets for not having the depth to cope with injuries to players that were injury risks (and some that weren't). However, to say the Yankees and the Mets had a similar injury picture this year is wayyyyyyy off. For over a month our line-up was 6 minor leaguers and Castillo/Wright.

perhaps they should fire their conditioning staff??.....

[cougarjake13]

perhaps they should fire their conditioning staff??.....

they should fire everyone not named david wright

[Snoogans]

why isnt this thread locked?

[hammersavage]

23 years ago today baby!!!

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