Food establishment ethics

[sr71blackbird]

I did something tonight that I think someone else might have done different and I wonder if other people do things like me or the opposite.
I went into a Dunkin Donuts and ordered a muffin and a sandwich, and as the guy was making it I saw something on the countertop, and looked closely and saw it was a baby roach. It turned my stomach, but I paid for the food and left the store and just threw the food right in the garbage. I suspect some people would have made a stink about it, but I didn't have the heart to, plus the guy behind the counter didn't have a strong grasp of the language anyway and I doubts he would understand. I also didn't want to upset the other patrons. Would you have handeled it different? How would you have done it? Would you have paid and eaten itn or throw it away the way I did?

[weekapaugjz]

you really don't like confrontation do you?

[hammersavage]

I would have either said kindly "nah, forget it" and if he pressed I'd explain about the roach.

But I probably would have just eaten it because I'm sure there are worse disgusting things that's happened to the food I eat than I know. The world is a disgusting place.

[PilotJeff]

Oh hell no. I once raised hell at the Raleigh/Durham airport because the girl at the BBQ place dropped my piece of chicken on the counter top, then placed it on the bun and handed it to me. I refused to accept it and she couldn't understand why, so there I was, the crazy pilot yelling about chicken. But that's just my OCD... :)

[sr71blackbird]

Remember, the guy behind the counter had a minimal understanding of english.

[hammersavage]

I would said in my best country accent 'Listen here Mo-hammed. I no pay. Dead cockroach. Throw in some free munchkins and we got a deal'

[sr71blackbird]

And its not that I have an issue with confrontation, it is because I think about how the other patrons will react and figured the guy was not going to understand even if I explained it.

[PapaBear]

By limited grasp of English, do you mean Hispanic? Because EVERYONE knows how to say cockroach in Spanish. I would have tried to say "Never mind. I changed my mind when I saw the roach." But I'd say it without being loud, then I'd just walk away, whether he understood me or not.

[hammersavage]

I would have also said "Speak American god dammit. Love it or leave it!"


But we can all agree that paying for it and throwing it out would be the worst option, yes?

[PilotJeff]

And its not that I have an issue with confrontation, it is because I think about how the other patrons will react.

Do you mean you were afraid that you would cause Dunkin Donuts to lose business?

Maybe they should keep a cleaner store.

[Coach]

Meh, its a bug..take the food and eat it. Bugs are high in protein.
Now if the guy was wiping his nose with his hands..then I might be grossed out

[joethebartender]

You shouldn't have paid. Pointed to the roach and left. (Who gets a sandwich at a dunkin donuts?)

[ChrisTheCop]

If the plan was to throw it out, I would definitely not have paid. Whether I tell them why or not...and I lean toward telling.

But... I probably wouldve eaten it anyway. I eat ice cream that my cat has licked.

[TooLowBrow]

Which d+d? because i think i live near you.

[ChrisTheCop]

pet peeve; it's not d AND d. Thats a fantasy game, Man!
youre dreaming bout gorganzola when it's clearly brie time, baby!

[TooLowBrow]

how do cops refer to d+d when they radio each other?

[joethebartender]

how do cops refer to d+d when they radio each other?

Headquarters.

[ChrisTheCop]

how do cops refer to d+d when they radio each other?

"goin to da club"
"headin home"
"gettin some"
"fillin it with cream"
"black n white to the black n sweet"

[TooLowBrow]

what do they call it if there's a robbery?

like

'head to the "fillin it with cream" down on sixth, theres a man with a gun!'

doesn't make much sense

[ChrisTheCop]

what do they call it if there's a robbery?

like

'head to the "fillin it with cream" down on sixth, theres a man with a gun!'

doesn't make much sense

why would one head somewhere at which they already are?

[TooLowBrow]

why would one head somewhere at which they already are?

what does the guy stuck at dispatch call it?

[marcpsych]

I would have yelled, "Fuckin' A!!! There's a cockroach on the counter!!! AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!"

Then I would have hopped up on the counter, attempted to do one of those breakdancing belly snake moves, and then hopped off the counter and run out of the store.

[sr71blackbird]

It was the Dunkin Donuts on Glen Cove Rd in Carle Place at the corner of Voice Rd.
My intention was to eat the sandwich and the muffin, but when I saw the baby roach, while the guy was preparing it, I started imagining that another roach could be in the bag, and if I tool home the food, I might cause an infestation in my home, so I opted to throw it out. There were a few people behind me at that point, and I did make a show of looking carefully at the roach to confirm it, and I said out loud "what is that?" and there was another guy next to me at. The counter and he didn't seem to care. I figured if I said something to the counter guy, he wouldn't get it, and I also didn't want to make a scene in front of the other people behind me. I know it was a waste of money, but my post was about this quandry.

[sr71blackbird]

Oh, and they have a few sandwiches that are actually pretty good, like the flat bread ones, and the one I was going to get was this new one with an egg and cheese and bacon on two small waffles. It looked good. Ill have to try it at another Dunkin 5onuts.

[sailor]

By limited grasp of English, do you mean Hispanic? Because EVERYONE knows how to say cockroach in Spanish. I would have tried to say "Never mind. I changed my mind when I saw the roach." But I'd say it without being loud, then I'd just walk away, whether he understood me or not.

you'd have to assume he was indian. just playing the odds.

[~Katja~]

well if you feel you don't want to say anything to upset the other customers there then at least do them a favor and call health services to have the place inspected.

Personally I already get upset when a blueberry bagel is crusted in Everything bagel remainders cause the pricks won't clean up after they make one and use the same knife.

[PerryWinkle]

I'm hungry. now i feel like going to DD, thanks

[sr71blackbird]

you'd have to assume he was indian. just playing the odds.

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[~Katja~]

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then you should have made a scene and end it with some bollywood type of dance to make it end well

[KatPw]

It was the Dunkin Donuts on Glen Cove Rd in Carle Place at the corner of Voice Rd.
My intention was to eat the sandwich and the muffin, but when I saw the baby roach, while the guy was preparing it, I started imagining that another roach could be in the bag, and if I tool home the food, I might cause an infestation in my home, so I opted to throw it out. There were a few people behind me at that point, and I did make a show of looking carefully at the roach to confirm it, and I said out loud "what is that?" and there was another guy next to me at. The counter and he didn't seem to care. I figured if I said something to the counter guy, he wouldn't get it, and I also didn't want to make a scene in front of the other people behind me. I know it was a waste of money, but my post was about this quandry.

Call the store, ask to speak to the manager and explain what happened. Roaches are a part of the food industry, but places need to know when there is a problem so they can call in the exterminators.
And is that D&D new? I never noticed one over there before.

[joethebartender]

Personally I already get upset when a blueberry bagel is crusted in Everything bagel remainders cause the pricks won't clean up after they make one and use the same knife.

Blueberry bagels?! WTF? You got what you deserved if you're ordering bagels at dunkin' donuts.
Doesn't anyone else run in get coffee and leave? eggs & steak out of a microwave! They don't even make the fucking donuts in those stores anymore! You have no right to complain unless you are mentally handicapped.:wallbash:

[~Katja~]

Blueberry bagels?! WTF? You got what you deserved if you're ordering bagels at dunkin' donuts.
Doesn't anyone else run in get coffee and leave? eggs & steak out of a microwave! They don't even make the fucking donuts in those stores anymore! You have no right to complain unless you are mentally handicapped.:wallbash:

I prefer bagels from other places but as crazy as it sounds they still do not accept credit cards.
I never have cash on me.

[KatPw]

Blueberry bagels?! WTF? You got what you deserved if you're ordering bagels at dunkin' donuts.
Doesn't anyone else run in get coffee and leave? eggs & steak out of a microwave! They don't even make the fucking donuts in those stores anymore! You have no right to complain unless you are mentally handicapped.:wallbash:

Blueberry bagels are delicious with cream cheese.

[instrument]

I miss bagels and muffins....ugh.

Really miss my favorite bagelshop in sparta N.J. If anyones ever on 15 in sparta, do yourself a favor and stop at the bagel shop and try their frenchtoast bagel...ugh.sogoooood

I can understand that you pay for the food prepared for you, but I wouldv'e told him to keep the muffin....

[sr71blackbird]

Call the store, ask to speak to the manager and explain what happened. Roaches are a part of the food industry, but places need to know when there is a problem so they can call in the exterminators.
And is that D&D new? I never noticed one over there before.

Its pretty new, its just north of Voice Rd, you can get into the lot from Voice Rd. I think they opened 2 years ago. Maybe I will call the store. All night long my skin was crawling.

[sr71blackbird]

I just called the store and got this Indian girl and she did not seem to know how to react.
I described where I saw them and she seemed indifferent.
I suggested she tell the manager and call an exterminator.
She said she would tell the manager.

Dunkin Donuts:
202 Glen Clove Rd Carle Place, NY 11514
516-741-8351


I am not going there again...

[joethebartender]

I prefer bagels from other places but as crazy as it sounds they still do not accept credit cards.
I never have cash on me.
It doesn't sound crazy to me...
They're not supposed to except credit cards at bagel joints. That's why people open them...to have a CASH business. (especially when the average transaction is around $5).
are you that chick at 7eleven that holds up the line and uses a credit card to buy a pack of gum? My head is going to explode.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[KatPw]

It doesn't sound crazy to me...
They're not supposed to except credit cards at bagel joints. That's why people open them...to have a CASH business. (especially when the average transaction is around $5).
are you that chick at 7eleven that holds up the line and uses a credit card to buy a pack of gum? My head is going to explode.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

Have you not seen those credit card/debit card commercials, the one where everything is moving like a well choreographed dance until one person decides to pay in cash, and they cause everything to get out of whack? We have been slowly brainwashed into believing you have to be retarded to use cash. I am a cash person, and I know I get dirty looks from people in line regardless if I am buying something for $1 or $100.

[Melk]

I am not going there again...
Cockroaches are not the end of the world. When I was in college, I tutored students. My college had a restaurant management program. One of the students showed me a book citing a statistic claiming that roaches are in 95% of urban restaurants in the US. The goal is to keep the numbers small and away from the clients.

I wouldn't've been bothered, unless there were other more obvious visible problems. (Dirty, peeling paint, smelly outside of the usual donut shop, etc)

[~Katja~]

It doesn't sound crazy to me...
They're not supposed to except credit cards at bagel joints. That's why people open them...to have a CASH business. (especially when the average transaction is around $5).
are you that chick at 7eleven that holds up the line and uses a credit card to buy a pack of gum? My head is going to explode.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:
NO cause I have to at least get 20 cash when in fact I only want to spend 5 bucks. What if I only ave 15 left in that associated account?

I don't like cash, I lose it, overspend and have less control. These days almost every place accepts debit.
I also prefer to keep those pennies of change in my account rather than in my pockets just to end up on the bottom of my car... change adds up quickly.

And I don't buy gum at 7/11... I don't shop there at all.



Have you not seen those credit card/debit card commercials, the one where everything is moving like a well choreographed dance until one person decides to pay in cash, and they cause everything to get out of whack? We have been slowly brainwashed into believing you have to be retarded to use cash. I am a cash person, and I know I get dirty looks from people in line regardless if I am buying something for $1 or $100.

I don't care or mind if someone prefers cash, I just don't.
I also don't think it's retarded to use cash, the truth is though that with no signature required for transactions under 25, a person paying with credit/ debit is in and out of the store faster.

[joethebartender]

Have you not seen those credit card/debit card commercials, the one where everything is moving like a well choreographed dance until one person decides to pay in cash, and they cause everything to get out of whack? We have been slowly brainwashed into believing you have to be retarded to use cash. I am a cash person, and I know I get dirty looks from people in line regardless if I am buying something for $1 or $100.

You are absolutely right. Let them think what they want to. I hated those commercials; it's just the opposite that happens!

I swear I get douche chills when I'd be so busy that I'm hanging on by my thumbs and some retard hands me a visa card to buy ONE beer. (not to open a tab)... just one beer.
"Sure, let me stop what I'm doing, run your card, enter the amount, wait for duplicate sales slips to print, and have you sign one. Dollars to dunkin donuts that the tip line will be empty on the signed slip too." this smiley doesn't even come close!--->:wallbash:

[~Katja~]

You are absolutely right. Let them think what they want to. I hated those commercials; it's just the opposite that happens!

I swear I get douche chills when I'd be so busy that I'm hanging on by my thumbs and some retard hands me a visa card to buy ONE beer. (not to open a tab)... just one beer.
"Sure, let me stop what I'm doing, run your card, enter the amount, wait for duplicate sales slips to print, and have you sign one. Dollars to dunkin donuts that the tip line will be empty on the signed slip too." this smiley doesn't even come close!--->:wallbash:

a bar is different. Cause you are likely to get more tip when someone pays cash for every beer and adds the dollar instead of running the card.

Have you seen most stores and registers and who works them? They can't even count your change out right.

Dunkin Donuts is a fast food service. You don't fucking tip for fast food. You don't even get a receipt anymore if you don't want it.
I hand my card, they swipe it I say no receipt, thank you (cause I don't have to sign it anyway) and am on my way, coffee in hand... while the person next to me in line is still counting out her change
There are DD locations where you pour your own coffee, who would you tip there?

[KatPw]

I don't care or mind if someone prefers cash, I just don't.
I also don't think it's retarded to use cash, the truth is though that with no signature required for transactions under 25, a person paying with credit/ debit is in and out of the store faster.

Do whatever works for you. I need to see the cash, so when my wallet starts getting light I stop spending money. I need to trick my brain. I just hate the dirty looks, because I pride myself on being a very efficient person. I'm not one of those women that stands at the cashier rifling through my pocketbook looking for my wallet. When I go food shopping, I'm the crazy lady that walks around punching numbers into a calculator, and writing the total down on my grocery list, so I know exactly how much money I need to take out to pay the cashier.

[sr71blackbird]

It doesn't sound crazy to me...
They're not supposed to except credit cards at bagel joints. That's why people open them...to have a CASH business. (especially when the average transaction is around $5).
are you that chick at 7eleven that holds up the line and uses a credit card to buy a pack of gum? My head is going to explode.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

Not everyone carries cash. I like the idea of paying by card. 7 Elevens machines are pretty damn fast too.

[sr71blackbird]

It doesn't sound crazy to me...
They're not supposed to except credit cards at bagel joints. That's why people open them...to have a CASH business. (especially when the average transaction is around $5).
are you that chick at 7eleven that holds up the line and uses a credit card to buy a pack of gum? My head is going to explode.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

Not everyone carries cash. I like the idea of paying by card. 7 Elevens machines are pretty damn fast too. Plus, I think it may be better when a business has to report income. When they are all cash, they tend to hid their income and keep unreported income that no one else has the option to do.

[joethebartender]

a bar is different. Cause you are likely to get more tip when someone pays cash for every beer and adds the dollar instead of running the card.

Have you seen most stores and registers and who works them? They can't even count your change out right.

Dunkin Donuts is a fast food service. You don't fucking tip for fast food. You don't even get a receipt anymore if you don't want it.
I hand my card, they swipe it I say no receipt, thank you (cause I don't have to sign it anyway) and am on my way, coffee in hand... while the person next to me in line is still counting out her change
There are DD locations where you pour your own coffee, who would you tip there?

The tip is not an issue here. (and I was not talking about tipping at a dunkin donuts) It's the cessation of my service to better customers and the breaking of my balls with a card for one drink.

It would be like you going to a one lane toll bridge and you have to wait for the schmuck in front of you to write a personal check for $4 before you can drive through. (ugh. what a shitty analogy)

[joethebartender]

Not everyone carries cash. I like the idea of paying by card. 7 Elevens machines are pretty damn fast too. Plus, I think it may be better when a business has to report income. When they are all cash, they tend to hid their income and keep unreported income that no one else has the option to do.

Sure you do... open a cash business.

[~Katja~]

Do whatever works for you. I need to see the cash, so when my wallet starts getting light I stop spending money. I need to trick my brain. I just hate the dirty looks, because I pride myself on being a very efficient person. I'm not one of those women that stands at the cashier rifling through my pocketbook looking for my wallet. When I go food shopping, I'm the crazy lady that walks around punching numbers into a calculator, and writing the total down on my grocery list, so I know exactly how much money I need to take out to pay the cashier.

I actually think that the problem when paying cash is not the customer but the cashier.
Unless the register tells them exactly how much to return they often can't do the simple math and even when it tells them they miscount.

[sailor]

credit cards are definitely faster at dd than cash. not even close. like the lady said, they swipe the card, no receipt, nothing to sign. 7-11 was actually the worst example you can use 'cause there they accept blink cards. you hold your card up against the reader wait two seconds and you're off (just like mobil speedpass, same concept as ez-pass with the rfid). you don't hand over the card, don't sign, don't put in a pin. literally takes 2 seconds. as opposed to the guy who goes to the atm, takes out 20 and then has to wait for them to count $19+ for his pack o' gum.

yes, in a bar it would be silly. i'll give you that.

[~Katja~]

The tip is not an issue here. (and I was not talking about tipping at a dunkin donuts) It's the cessation of my service to better customers and the breaking of my balls with a card for one drink.

It would be like you going to a one lane toll bridge and you have to wait for the schmuck in front of you to write a personal check for $4 before you can drive through. (ugh. what a shitty analogy)

that's what ezpass is for... the "credit card" of toll lanes... :P


and I already said that I think it is different at a bar though I often find myself cashless there too... but I try to run a tab

[underdog]

I would have just eaten the food.

You're getting food from Dunkin Donuts. You saw a roach. Big deal. Look closer, you'll probably find a couple rats, too.

[A.J.]

Personally I already get upset when a blueberry bagel is crusted in Everything bagel remainders cause the pricks won't clean up after they make one and use the same knife.

Same for me at Subway when they cut my sub with the knife that still has vile mayo all over it. WIPE IT OFF SAVAGE.

[sr71blackbird]

Ever notice its usually the cash buisnesses that have the pest problems?
Its not my intent to trash the cash industry, I am just saying.
When I was a meter reader and had to go into the basements of these kinds of places, if you saw the insects and rodents, you would freak. I think that the cash industry people just are not as concerned about vermin as credit industries. Maybe the books are such in a credit industry that the pest control is something that can be justified as a tax write off?

[jauble]

And I don't buy gum at 7/11... I don't shop there at all.

But where do you get your string cheese?

[~Katja~]

But where do you get your string cheese?

I buy it at the grocery store like most people would.

[ChrisTheCop]

And is that D&D new?

Okay. lemme explain it in girl terms.

It's like Sex in the City. Some people called it Sex AND the City. They were silly people, remember?
There's no AND in there! Just an IN.

Same with dunkIN donuts. I realize theres also a D, then another D, but theres no need for math when you dont need it.

[KingGeno]

you really don't like confrontation do you?

this

[~Katja~]

Okay. lemme explain it in girl terms.

It's like Sex in the City. Some people called it Sex AND the City. They were silly people, remember?
There's no AND in there! Just an IN.

Same with dunkIN donuts. I realize theres also a D, then another D, but theres no need for math when you dont need it.

this bothers you but you would not be bothered by a roach???

some people.... pft...

there are also 's in there's and don't
:bye: in some cases it pays to do the math...LOL

[ChrisTheCop]

this bothers you but you would not be bothered by a roach???

some people.... pft...

there are also 's in there's and don't
:bye: in some cases it pays to do the math...LOL

My omitting a few apostrophes was in an effort to make things faster; call it the credit card of text, if you will.
My point is, had you missed it due to punctuation translation difficulties;

What is the rationale of ADDING a conjunction that was never there to begin with?

[KatPw]

Okay. lemme explain it in girl terms.

It's like Sex in the City. Some people called it Sex AND the City. They were silly people, remember?
There's no AND in there! Just an IN.

Same with dunkIN donuts. I realize theres also a D, then another D, but theres no need for math when you dont need it.

Awwww, did someone piss in your cheerios this morning?

[ChrisTheCop]

Awwww, did someone piss in your cheerios this morning?

Why am I coming off as the bad guy? I'm just tryin' to help.

[sailor]

damn, that was a lot of typing for one extraneous symbol.

[lleeder]

I would have just eaten the sandwich.

I hate how people expect everything in the world to be pristine. Food attracts bugs. It happens. I'm willing to bet most of the shit we've eaten has been crawled on, dropped, or handled by someone with shitty jizz soaked hands.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

I eat cockroaches. No problem either. I've dipped them in chocolate, eaten them in curry sauce and also found time to shish-kabob the big ones and marinate them.


Whats the problem here lady?

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

I would have just eaten the sandwich.

I hate how people expect everything in the world to be pristine. Food attracts bugs. It happens. I'm willing to bet most of the shit we've eaten has been crawled on, dropped, or handled by someone with shitty jizz soaked hands.
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[~Katja~]

Awwww, did someone piss in your cheerios this morning?

no, I think his donuts had roaches in it... :)

[razorboy]

no, I think his donuts had roaches in it... :)

Fez would eat it.

[underdog]

I would have just eaten the sandwich.

I hate how people expect everything in the world to be pristine. Food attracts bugs. It happens. I'm willing to bet most of the shit we've eaten has been crawled on, dropped, or handled by someone with shitty jizz soaked hands.

I like the cut of your jib, sir.

[foodcourtdruide]

I did something tonight that I think someone else might have done different and I wonder if other people do things like me or the opposite.
I went into a Dunkin Donuts and ordered a muffin and a sandwich, and as the guy was making it I saw something on the countertop, and looked closely and saw it was a baby roach. It turned my stomach, but I paid for the food and left the store and just threw the food right in the garbage. I suspect some people would have made a stink about it, but I didn't have the heart to, plus the guy behind the counter didn't have a strong grasp of the language anyway and I doubts he would understand. I also didn't want to upset the other patrons. Would you have handeled it different? How would you have done it? Would you have paid and eaten itn or throw it away the way I did?

You probably shouldn't have paid. Since the guy didn't speak English well, I would have simply pointed to the roach and walked out. He definitely would have understood. I think it's good that you didn't act like a self-important lunatic and scream bloody murder because you saw a bug, however it's not abnormal to be grossed out by bugs.

[jauble]

All this talk of roaches and DD made me go out and grab one of those flatbreads and a coffee for lunch. Fantastic and roach free.

[joethebartender]

F u and your credit cards...if you eat Subway and Dunkin Donuts...you get what you deserve. Fucking bunch of hayseeds!

[PapaBear]

you'd have to assume he was indian. just playing the odds.
I guess that's a regional difference thing. Around here, people from India are mostly doctors or motel owners.

[Melk]

Okay. lemme explain it in girl terms.

It's like Sex in the City. Some people called it Sex AND the City. They were silly people, remember?
There's no AND in there! Just an IN.

Same with dunkIN donuts. I realize theres also a D, then another D, but theres no need for math when you dont need it.
If you are so against roaches in D&D, smite them with your wizard
magic.

Call it Duncan Donuts like a sensible person.

[sailor]

I guess that's a regional difference thing. Around here, people from India are mostly doctors or motel owners.

odd. from boston all thru ny and into PA, i think indian is the norm. surprised it doesn't extend from there. kinda like most housekeepers (hotels) here are asian, but i believe hispanic would be the norm for the rest of the country.

[ANC]

I would've said "Forget it I don't want it" if he started causing a stink about that, I would've raised hell.

This has happened before...