View Full Version : Was James Harrison's return the greatest play in SB history?
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 04:12 PM
It's certainly an idea making the rounds today. I think it obviously has a very strong case and very well could be the greatest play the SB has ever hosted.
What say you?
Giants fans, try and contain yourselves and look at this realistically.
Marcus Allen, 74 yard TD run during Super Bowl XVIII.
Probably the last time Al Davis was happy.
It's certainly the most impressive.
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 04:18 PM
Marcus Allen, 74 yard TD run during Super Bowl XVIII.
Probably the last time Al Davis was happy.
Seriously, how is that better than this?
Unless it's just an excuse to make fun of Al.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 04:22 PM
John Riggins run on fourth down against the dolphins
TheGameHHH
02-02-2009, 04:23 PM
The second he fell into the end zone i said out loud, 'wow, thats the most impressive SB play I've ever seen.' I think it may just be the greatest SB play in history. I mean, we're only talking 43 games here (and anything to take the spotlight off Eli Manning, the 6 holds and miracle Tyree catch)
hedges
02-02-2009, 04:24 PM
What else do we have to compare it too? What was the greatest play in Superbowl history before this? John Riggins running down the sidelines, dragging a man with him?
What else do we have to compare it too? What was the greatest play in Superbowl history before this?
Realistically? The first offensive play of Super Bowl 43.
Favre to Rison for a 54 Yard TD pass on an audible.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Realistically? The first offensive play of Super Bowl 43.
Favre to Rison for a 54 Yard TD pass on an audible.
Stop it. Not even the best play in the game.
It was unquestionably the single biggest momentum/game swinging play in SuperBowl history so for that it has to be in the discussion. No chance Steelers win without that play, it was a minimum 10 point swing. But it might not have even been the best play of the game for an iconic standpoint.
I'll still take the Tyree catch. It's the snapshot moment in the greatest SuperBowl of all time. Makes no sense on any level, was a 10 on difficulty scale and capped the biggest upset in SB history (there was no way they were gonna lose after it).
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Jets over colts was the greatest upset and the riggins run was greater then the tyree catch and epo thanks for the good laugh
FezsAssistant
02-02-2009, 04:51 PM
Was it ever revealed why Harrison was punching some dude who was already down? Or are we just chalking it up to 'he's black and it's to be expected?'.
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Was it ever revealed why Harrison was punching some dude who was already down? Or are we just chalking it up to 'he's black and it's to be expected?'.
Classy. Do you ever knock this shit off?
Donnie Iris
02-02-2009, 05:00 PM
I think it has to be considered the greatest play. Also, I'm from Pittsburgh.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:00 PM
Classy. Do you ever knock this shit off?
why not just ban him for this behavior then maybe then he will get the point it isnt acceptable
El Mudo
02-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Seriously, how is that better than this?
Unless it's just an excuse to make fun of Al.
Are you kidding me?? He pretty much ran AROUND the entire field
Mike Jones stopping Kevin Dyson at the one yard line?
Earl Morrall not seeing a wide open Jimmy Orr?
Jim O'Brien winning the Super Bowl V as a ROOKIE KICKER?
Joe Theisman saving the Redskins' bacon by knocking the ball out of Miami DE Kim Bokamper's hands in the end zone?
The Riggins play (in that same game)?
I think all those are more impressive (or at least on the same level)
Kevin
02-02-2009, 05:02 PM
I have to say Manning Tyree.
The Harrison play although great, was a product of very poor execution on Zona's part.
From the Warner pass to the run back.
Still a great play.
Manning To Tyree was just an amazing play.
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Are you kidding me?? He pretty much ran AROUND the entire field
Still, 54 yards vs. the whole field run by the last guy you want doing that all while trying to stay inbounds and on his feet because the clock has run out?
Hottub
02-02-2009, 05:08 PM
Suck it, Mojo.
You are not the boss of me.
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TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 05:09 PM
Suck it, Mojo.
You are not the boss of me.
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I was more impressed with the final TD cach last night.
Plus Ben ducks and weaves like that multiple times a game.
Hottub
02-02-2009, 05:10 PM
The coup de gras.
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hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:10 PM
I played football my whole life. I did shit like Harrison did on the punt every time. That's what I was taught actually. If a guy goes down on a punt, do not let him get up, stomp him.
Hottub
02-02-2009, 05:13 PM
I was more impressed with the final TD cach last night.
Plus Ben ducks and weaves like that multiple times a game.
That much? Really?
Maybe he needs an offensive line.:wink:
sailor
02-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Still, 54 yards vs. the whole field run by the last guy you want doing that all while trying to stay inbounds and on his feet because the clock has run out?
74
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 05:41 PM
74
Sorry, I was going by epo's post.
I stand by my points.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Casey Hampton is the last guy I would have wanted attempting that play.
STC-Dub
02-02-2009, 05:47 PM
No, and that was not the best Super Bowl ever either.
underdog
02-02-2009, 06:18 PM
If Arizona wins the game, would Fitzgerald blowing away the field be considered one of the greatest plays?
TheGameHHH
02-02-2009, 06:36 PM
If Arizona wins the game, would Fitzgerald blowing away the field be considered one of the greatest plays?
no.....but it makes Fitz the MVP
Dude!
02-02-2009, 06:37 PM
The coup de gras.
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that was not the greatest play in history
but it may have been the most exciting moment
made even more exciting by the fact that the
lowly giants had beat the lofty pats - THE team of the 2000's
yesterday was a great great game no doubt
but the steelers only beat the cards for C'sake
underdog
02-02-2009, 06:38 PM
that was not the greatest play in history
but it may have been the most exciting moment
made even more exciting by the fact that the
lowly giants had beat the lofty pats - THE team of the 2000's
yesterday was a great great game no doubt
but the steelers only beat the cards for C'sake
That's what I don't get about Best Super Bowl ever talk. The Giants beat a team that was 18-0 in an amazing Super Bowl. That was a great Super Bowl.
It's certainly an idea making the rounds today. I think it obviously has a very strong case and very well could be the greatest play the SB has ever hosted.
What say you?
Giants fans, try and contain yourselves and look at this realistically.
YES!
King Hippos Bandaid
02-02-2009, 06:57 PM
top 3 for sure,
probably 1, but need to research the plays from 1966-1984 (when i was too young to remember)
TheMojoPin
02-02-2009, 06:59 PM
That's what I don't get about Best Super Bowl ever talk. The Giants beat a team that was 18-0 in an amazing Super Bowl. That was a great Super Bowl.
Yeah, screw the "greatest game" talk. Now, Harrison's play being on the greatest? OK, I can buy that. One of the best endings? Of course. But THE best game? No way. Outside of Harrison, the first 3 quarters were like a coma.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 07:14 PM
Yeah, screw the "greaest game" talk. Now, Harrison's play ebing on the greatest? OK, I can buy that. One of the best endings? Of course. But THE best game? No way.
shit its not even the best giants sb the one against the bills was a better game, sf v cincy with montana to taylor war the best game
IMSlacker
02-02-2009, 07:18 PM
Yeah, screw the "greaest game" talk. Now, Harrison's play ebing on the greatest? OK, I can buy that. One of the best endings? Of course. But THE best game? No way.
Everyone knows Super Bowl XX was the greatest game ever played.
Yeah, screw the "greatest game" talk. Now, Harrison's play being on the greatest? OK, I can buy that. One of the best endings? Of course. But THE best game? No way. Outside of Harrison, the first 3 quarters were like a coma.
Thats why I love hearing the giants people talk about how great last year was, that game sucked until the 4th quarter, it was below coma inducing levels, 10 pts the whole game then they finally start to score. If it wasnt for that catch nobody would even mention it at all and I give more credit to nancy boy manning for staying up then for the actual catch, maybe it should be called the scramble instead of the giants catch?
As far as james play, it was great and ranks up there in the debate of all time greatest plays because it definitely swung the game at the least 10 and most likely 14 points.
El Mudo
02-03-2009, 03:26 AM
Still, 54 yards vs. the whole field run by the last guy you want doing that all while trying to stay inbounds and on his feet because the clock has run out?
The Fitzgerald play (considering when and how it happened, and the fact that it was against a defence DESIGNED to prevent it) was much more impressive. Besides, anytime you generate a turnover when youre on the goalline, there's a HUGE chance its going to be taken to the house the other way because everyone's so bunched up (thats why Ed Reed has like a thousand 100+ yard INT returns).
What about Kenny King's 80 yard screen and run in Super Bowl XV?
Garo Yepremian/Mike Bass?
Bob Lilly sacking Bob Griese for a 29 yard loss in Super Bowl VI?
Lynn Swann's catches?
Don Beebe knocking the ball away from Leon Lett?
Devin Hester taking back the opening kick a couple years ago?
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 07:41 AM
Thats why I love hearing the giants people talk about how great last year was, that game sucked until the 4th quarter, it was below coma inducing levels, 10 pts the whole game then they finally start to score. If it wasnt for that catch nobody would even mention it at all and I give more credit to nancy boy manning for staying up then for the actual catch, maybe it should be called the scramble instead of the giants catch?
As far as james play, it was great and ranks up there in the debate of all time greatest plays because it definitely swung the game at the least 10 and most likely 14 points.
Last year was unquestionably the best SB and I'm not a Giants fan.
A game doesn't have to be high scoring for it to be great, unless you are a woman who knows nothing about football and just wants to get to commercials.
Knowing a team who was 14 point underdogs against the greatest team ever to play was sticking with them play for play was drama on its highest level. Every 5 minutes I would say 'Wow, I can't believe they are hanging with them' and it would go on and on and the pressure would build and build and build while they had the lead. Confidence and drama would grow every play they hung with them.
Then late in the 4th quarter, the huge letdown after the Moss TD. It looked like it finally slipped away. Then the drive back down built all that tension back up again in a couple minutes. Until the Tyree catch, which I couldn't believe happened, at which time I knew they would score.
It was the biggest play in the best game and was acrobatic to boot.
kdubya
02-03-2009, 07:57 AM
I am partial to Mike Jones stopping Dyson at the 1 yard line as time ran out.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/kdubya8/dyson300.jpg
El Mudo
02-03-2009, 08:11 AM
I am partial to Mike Jones stopping Dyson at the 1 yard line as time ran out.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/kdubya8/dyson300.jpg
That's my choice...you CAN'T make a bigger play than that...AND it was a solo tackle
kdubya
02-03-2009, 08:13 AM
That's my choice...you CAN'T make a bigger play than that...AND it was a solo tackle
It also may be the best Super Bowl image as well.
El Mudo
02-03-2009, 08:45 AM
It also may be the best Super Bowl image as well.
I like this one
http://sportslifer.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/joe1.jpg
followed closely by
http://fonytontana.com/johnriggins.jpg
El Mudo
02-03-2009, 08:48 AM
Even though these are technically from an NFL Championship game and not the Super Bowl, theyre still amazing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/in_pictures_enl_1201867125/img/1.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0712/nfl.longest.drives.end.zone/images/1958.cut.jpg
spadanko
02-03-2009, 09:32 AM
The coup de gras.
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BONER!!!!
JimBeam
02-03-2009, 09:34 AM
Without giving it much thought I'd go with the Rams/Titans play as well.
I didn't catch a clip/block in the back on Harrison's runback but apparently it was discussed on a few sports shows the last 2 days.
I'm also not giving it it's due because of that nonsense he pulled later in the game.
I love how he's the feel good story of this and that but nobody wants to mention the fact that he was hitting a guy that was on his knees.
F him.
TheMojoPin
02-03-2009, 11:46 AM
I love how he's the feel good story of this and that but nobody wants to mention the fact that he was hitting a guy that was on his knees.
F him.
That just makes it even more awesome.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j268/eXcella/Gifs/whbja8jpg.gif
SUBMIT.
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 11:54 AM
That just makes it even more awesome.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j268/eXcella/Gifs/whbja8jpg.gif
SUBMIT.
Again, that is how you are taught to play football. If that guy tries to get to his feet, you knock him down. You aren't allowed to hit him while he is down, thus the penalty.
Snoogans
02-03-2009, 11:55 AM
I think Holmes' catch was a better play
TheMojoPin
02-03-2009, 12:02 PM
Again, that is how you are taught to play football. If that guy tries to get to his feet, you knock him down. You aren't allowed to hit him while he is down, thus the penalty.
It looks like he's shoving around a timid little deer.
Knowledged_one
02-03-2009, 12:09 PM
Again, that is how you are taught to play football. If that guy tries to get to his feet, you knock him down. You aren't allowed to hit him while he is down, thus the penalty.
The penalty didnt come till he shoved him not for the punches, the guy getting up like that is considered a defenseless player - thus the penalty
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 12:12 PM
Oh, it's a penalty, no doubt. But for anyone to call it 'dirty' just doesn't know football. That's what you do to a player. He got flagged cuz the AZ player wasn't on his feet when he dropped him again.
Knowledged_one
02-03-2009, 12:18 PM
the problem was he did it in full view of the officials had it been done in the interior of the line it would never have been called
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 12:22 PM
Yea. Harrison was truly a beast that game though. He could have gotten 5 more holding penalties called against him cuz Gandy literally held him every play.
meanmrbill
02-03-2009, 12:29 PM
No, and that was not the best Super Bowl ever either.
Insightful.
TonyStark
02-03-2009, 01:13 PM
It's the best one I can remember seeing for sure.
Brudep
02-03-2009, 02:25 PM
I bet it gets some comparison to Willie Brown's 75 yd. Int return against the Vikings in Super Bowl XI.
STC-Dub
02-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Insightful.
Sorry, just tired of hearing how this was the best Super Bowl ever when it was not a great game for 3 quarters, and the 3rd quarter was ugly as hell.
meanmrbill
02-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Sorry, just tired of hearing how this was the best Super Bowl ever when it was not a great game for 3 quarters, and the 3rd quarter was ugly as hell.
I don't have a problem with you thinking that this wasn't the greatest Super Bowl ever. My problem is that the question was if Harrison's play was the greatest play in SB history and your response was a non-thought-provoking "no". I just would have liked to have heard your reasons.
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 05:06 PM
It is certainly up there on the list of greatest ever. I like seeing the "D" getting the attention. Seeing a behemoth like that run that field is great. And, he was not good enough for the NFL for awhile. It makes a good story.
If it was at the end of the game instead of at the half, it would be the undisputed greatest play.
cougarjake13
02-03-2009, 05:46 PM
that was not the greatest play in history
but it may have been the most exciting moment
made even more exciting by the fact that the
lowly giants had beat the lofty pats - THE team of the 2000's
yesterday was a great great game no doubt
but the steelers only beat the cards for C'sake
and their other recent sb win was against the seahawks , a pretty decent team but obviously still played in the shitty nfc west
STC-Dub
02-03-2009, 08:11 PM
It was a good play, but it was just too slow to be the best ever. Holmes' catch -- and Roethlisberger's throw were more impressive in this game as was Fitzgerald's catch and run through the Steelers D. The Helmet catch last season was better, Elway's helicopter run was pretty impressive though not a huge play. The Marcus Allen run was huge as was the Lynn Swan catch they always show.
meanmrbill
02-03-2009, 08:14 PM
It was a good play, but it was just too slow to be the best ever.
This is the silliest critique of anything in recorded history.
TheMojoPin
02-04-2009, 05:04 AM
"Too slow?!?" That's key to why it's so great! A guy THAT slow took it endzone to endzone with the clock having run out and needing to stay inbounds and avoid the tackle.
Last year was unquestionably the best SB and I'm not a Giants fan.
A game doesn't have to be high scoring for it to be great, unless you are a woman who knows nothing about football and just wants to get to commercials.
Knowing a team who was 14 point underdogs against the greatest team ever to play was sticking with them play for play was drama on its highest level. Every 5 minutes I would say 'Wow, I can't believe they are hanging with them' and it would go on and on and the pressure would build and build and build while they had the lead. Confidence and drama would grow every play they hung with them.
Then late in the 4th quarter, the huge letdown after the Moss TD. It looked like it finally slipped away. Then the drive back down built all that tension back up again in a couple minutes. Until the Tyree catch, which I couldn't believe happened, at which time I knew they would score.
It was the biggest play in the best game and was acrobatic to boot.
No it wasnt the best SB ever, the way the giants defense played at the end of last year made them look like a different team just like the cardinals this year, without those defenses neither team would have been close.
Then in the end when both defenses started playing not to lose did they start to score, it was an average game with nothing really happening until the 4th, it was dull and not even in the top 10 of SB games.
I am partial to Mike Jones stopping Dyson at the 1 yard line as time ran out.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/kdubya8/dyson300.jpg
Yeah I think that may get my vote for single greatest play, I just knew he was going to score and if he doesnt make that tackle he could have crawled into the end zone since there was no one near him.
"Too slow?!?" That's key to why it's so great! A guy THAT slow took it endzone to endzone with the clock having run out and needing to stay inbounds and avoid the tackle.
Yeah its like people completely ignore how huge that guy is and that hes not that fast once he has to run more than 10 yards, whats great is that he appeared to be looking for someone to lateral the ball to around the 50 yard line.
underdog
02-04-2009, 01:48 PM
Then in the end when both defenses started playing not to lose did they start to score, it was an average game with nothing really happening until the 4th, it was dull and not even in the top 10 of SB games.
This could be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
A 14 point underdog defeats a team that is 18-0 in a close super bowl, and it's not even in the top 10? That's retarded.
hammersavage
02-04-2009, 01:52 PM
This could be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
A 14 point underdog defeats a team that is 18-0 in a close super bowl, and it's not even in the top 10? That's retarded.
You haven't read many of his posts then
underdog
02-04-2009, 01:54 PM
You haven't read many of his posts then
The thing is, I have. That's how astonishingly stupid saying last year's Super Bowl isn't in the top 10 is.
This could be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
A 14 point underdog defeats a team that is 18-0 in a close super bowl, and it's not even in the top 10? That's retarded.
It was a 14 point dog just to get people to bet on them, the same reason the steelers started out as a 7+ favorite until people started to bet on them. I am going by overall quality of the game not by what the fucking betting line was though, the game sucked and when the defenses started feeling pressure they broke and gave up a couple of plays. People think the first 3 quarters of this game were dull, last years game was terrible.
Was I the only one who paid attention?
You haven't read many of his posts then
Yes cause Im the irrational one here, all I have to say is 10 points total in the first half with sloppy play, dropped passes, and barely over 200 yds combined. The game sucked a fat one, you could have skipped the entire game and only watched the 4th to get the feel for the game.
Im not saying this was one of the best but to say last years was so fucking great is giving it way to much credit, most of the SBs in the 90s were better.
hammersavage
02-04-2009, 08:39 PM
It was a 14 point dog just to get people to bet on them, the same reason the steelers started out as a 7+ favorite until people started to bet on them. I am going by overall quality of the game not by what the fucking betting line was though, the game sucked and when the defenses started feeling pressure they broke and gave up a couple of plays. People think the first 3 quarters of this game were dull, last years game was terrible.
Was I the only one who paid attention?
It ended the same way so that makes no sense. The betting line is what made it a great game. You could also look at record if you can't follow that. 18-0, highest scoring team ever, largest margin of victory ever. They make sense to you? You were the only one who paid attention, not the 100 million other people.
Yes cause Im the irrational one here, all I have to say is 10 points total in the first half with sloppy play, dropped passes, and barely over 200 yds combined. The game sucked a fat one, you could have skipped the entire game and only watched the 4th to get the feel for the game.
Im not saying this was one of the best but to say last years was so fucking great is giving it way to much credit, most of the SBs in the 90s were better.
It's called defense!!! Go watch the Arena Bowl you hack sports fan. You watch football like a housewife. Tell us how the commercials were, I'm sure you'd make more sense then.
It ended the same way so that makes no sense. The betting line is what made it a great game. You could also look at record if you can't follow that. 18-0, highest scoring team ever, largest margin of victory ever. They make sense to you? You were the only one who paid attention, not the 100 million other people.
It's called defense!!! Go watch the Arena Bowl you hack sports fan. You watch football like a housewife. Tell us how the commercials were, I'm sure you'd make more sense then.Every close game with one decent play is called the greatest shortly after the fact, give it a couple more years then you will maybe admit its barely an average game.
Defense? The pats D was average at best all season in their crappy conference, the game was sloppy with a lot of dropped passes and blown assignments.
I have to watch games by myself on my own dvr because I piss people off rewinding it to find blown blocks and converages.
Oh and the AFL sucks.
cougarjake13
02-05-2009, 02:35 PM
It was a 14 point dog just to get people to bet on them, the same reason the steelers started out as a 7+ favorite until people started to bet on them. I am going by overall quality of the game not by what the fucking betting line was though, the game sucked and when the defenses started feeling pressure they broke and gave up a couple of plays. People think the first 3 quarters of this game were dull, last years game was terrible.
Was I the only one who paid attention?
Yes cause Im the irrational one here, all I have to say is 10 points total in the first half with sloppy play, dropped passes, and barely over 200 yds combined. The game sucked a fat one, you could have skipped the entire game and only watched the 4th to get the feel for the game.
Im not saying this was one of the best but to say last years was so fucking great is giving it way to much credit, most of the SBs in the 90s were better.
better ??? except for the giants bills they were all blowouts
TripleSkeet
02-05-2009, 07:47 PM
For me personally Harrisons TD wasnt even the most impressive play of the game. Holmes catch at the end was probably as perfect a catch as you can make under those circumstances.
If I had to say most impressive play it would go to the Rams Jones on his last second tackle of Dyson at the one. To me that play epitomizes football. Gladiators going head to head in a battle of wills with one coming up JUST short at the last second.
TripleSkeet
02-05-2009, 07:55 PM
Oh for the record, it wasnt a great game. But you cant criticize this game and defend last years. Both were boring as hell for 3 quarters with an exciting 4th quarter.
Last year expectations were higher for the Pats, and everyone was shocked by them losing, so people give it more credit, while the favored team won this one. It shouldnt matter. 2 teams play, the plays should speak for themselves. Either way neither this year nor last deserve a top ten spot in greatest Super Bowls list.
RAAMONE
02-06-2009, 09:11 PM
yes...i'm not just being a bias fan either it was a huge turnaround before the half and the way the defense reacted to get him that 100 yards was great
Oh for the record, it wasnt a great game. But you cant criticize this game and defend last years. Both were boring as hell for 3 quarters with an exciting 4th quarter.
Last year expectations were higher for the Pats, and everyone was shocked by them losing, so people give it more credit, while the favored team won this one. It shouldnt matter. 2 teams play, the plays should speak for themselves. Either way neither this year nor last deserve a top ten spot in greatest Super Bowls list.
Exactly, this one had at least one exciting play before the 4th quarter but both were close to being dull, with this years getting a slight edge.....barely.
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