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AKA
01-26-2009, 08:57 AM
Which Oscar winner from the previous ten year stretch (1980s - 1990s) do you think is the worst... follow up to last week's poll... (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76813)

This one may be a runaway.

IMSlacker
01-26-2009, 09:03 AM
I voted Gump. I've never seen Titanic, so it could be worse.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 09:14 AM
Wow, much tougher list.

Far more slam dunk great films in this one, but also several really mediocre or average ones to try and pick between.

I was really torn between Rain Man and Driving Miss Daisy and ended up going with the former.

RoseBlood
01-26-2009, 09:24 AM
By default, I voted "Dances With Wolves" based on the simple fact I couldn't even watch 20 minutes of it and my father loves that movie and has subjected me to it countless times. Oh, and I can't stand Costner. Boooooring.

Titanic and Gump were ok.

I haven't seen nor have any desire to see The English Patient or Driving Miss. Daisy.

I enjoyed Braveheart, Schlindler's List, Unforgiven, Silence of the Lambs and Rainman.

drusilla
01-26-2009, 09:33 AM
the english patient was boring as shit.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 09:35 AM
the english patient was boring as shit.

What else was the TEP up against that year? I'm not a fan, but I couldn't remember it beating out something I really wanted instead.

Gump always bugs me since it beat out both Shawshak Redemption AND Pulp Fiction, and Titanic beat out LA Confidential.

Kevin
01-26-2009, 09:35 AM
Dancing with Wolves, in a landslide.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 09:38 AM
OK, TEP beat out Fargo. That's fucked up.

The English Patient - Miramax - Saul Zaentz
Fargo - Gramercy Pictures - Ethan Coen
Jerry Maguire - TriStar- James L. Brooks, Laurence Mark, Richard Sakai, Cameron Crowe
Secrets & Lies - October Films - Simon Channing-Williams
Shine - Fine Line Features - Jane Scott

Very weak year otherwise.

I actually think Dances With Wolves is an excellent film, but it beat out Goodfellas and that's just insane.

underdog
01-26-2009, 09:38 AM
How did Braveheart win best picture? I love the movie, but I also like shitty action movies with awful dialogue.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 09:40 AM
How did Braveheart win best picture? I love the movie, but I also like shitty action movies with awful dialogue.

VERY weak year:

Braveheart - Paramount - Mel Gibson, Alan Ladd, Jr., Bruce Davey
Apollo 13 - Imagine Entertainment, Universal - Brian Grazer
Babe - Universal - Bill Miller, George Miller, Doug Mitchell
Il Postino (The Postman) - Miramax - Mario Cecchi Gori (posthumous nomination), Vittorio Cecchi Gori, Gaetano Daniele
Sense and Sensibility - Columbia - Lindsay Doran

BeerBandit
01-26-2009, 10:30 AM
Am I the only person besides the 1990 Academy the actually really likes Dances with Wolves?

underdog
01-26-2009, 10:31 AM
VERY weak year:

Braveheart - Paramount - Mel Gibson, Alan Ladd, Jr., Bruce Davey
Apollo 13 - Imagine Entertainment, Universal - Brian Grazer
Babe - Universal - Bill Miller, George Miller, Doug Mitchell
Il Postino (The Postman) - Miramax - Mario Cecchi Gori (posthumous nomination), Vittorio Cecchi Gori, Gaetano Daniele
Sense and Sensibility - Columbia - Lindsay Doran

Isn't Il Postino a good movie? I've never actually watched it.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 10:39 AM
Isn't Il Postino a good movie? I've never actually watched it.

It's alright. Not bad, but pretty unremarkable. I think it got most of its heat from the dude dying after it came out.

GreatAmericanZero
01-26-2009, 10:47 AM
as horrible of a movie "Forrest Gump" is, and i know in my heart it is terrible...i have been known to leave it on everytime its on tv

epo
01-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Forrest Gump is embarrassingly bad.

TheMojoPin
01-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Forrest Gump is embarrassingly bad.

And lucky for us it basically might repeat with a Best Picture Oscar if ...Benjamin Button wins.

Blech.

Yerdaddy
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Braveheart

Slumbag
01-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Braveheart

I actually didn't like Braveheart much, either. But as bad as it was, at least there was battle scenes.

But it can't be worse than Driving Miss Daisy, Dances With Wolves, or the English Patient.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-26-2009, 10:59 PM
Forrest Gump, hands down. I don't see how anyone will vote against Unforgiven.

TEP might be worse, but I haven't had the good fortune to watch it so I couldn't say.

Edit: I WANT PUBLIC POLLS!!! roar.

KnoxHarrington
01-27-2009, 06:06 AM
I don't believe that we should hold what other movies one of these beat for BP against it, but I would point out one of the biggest embarassments in Oscar history here: the year that "Driving Miss Daisy", one of the prime examples of the "magic Negro" genre of movies in which exposure to the naive wisdom of a black person changes the life of a white person, won, "Do The Right Thing", a far smarter and truer movie about race relations, was not even nominated.

But my pick is "Forrest Gump". The movie is a fraud. It's designed to make you feel good, with a lovable main character spouting all kinds of folksy aphorisms, but it's a really vile movie with a terrible message: be a dumbass who does what everyone tells you to, and you'll be fine, do what you want with your life and follow your own dreams, die of AIDS. It's like preparation for the Dubya era in the middle of the Clinton era.

KnoxHarrington
01-27-2009, 06:09 AM
By the way, it's too early for Part III (1978-1987), I know, but I've already got my vote picked out for that one.

TheMojoPin
01-27-2009, 06:11 AM
I don't believe that we should hold what other movies one of these beat for BP against it, but I would point out one of the biggest embarassments in Oscar history here: the year that "Driving Miss Daisy", one of the prime examples of the "magic Negro" genre of movies in which exposure to the naive wisdom of a black person changes the life of a white person, won, "Do The Right Thing", a far smarter and truer movie about race relations, was not even nominated.

But my pick is "Forrest Gump". The movie is a fraud. It's designed to make you feel good, with a lovable main character spouting all kinds of folksy aphorisms, but it's a really vile movie with a terrible message: be a dumbass who does what everyone tells you to, and you'll be fine, do what you want with your life and follow your own dreams, die of AIDS. It's like preparation for the Dubya era in the middle of the Clinton era.

Yeah, I was about to pick DMD but I had to go with Rain Man since it follows the other hoary cliche of a respected actor playing retarded = Oscar gold. That, and it's basically just a really mundane boddy/road flick.

El Mudo
02-02-2009, 09:11 AM
Didn't Gump beat out Shawshank AND Pulp Fiction?

EDIT: Yes it did, and it also beat out Quiz Show, which was an excellent picture...wow.


Gump has to be worst/best by default (I guess karma beat Hanks when Private Ryan lost out to Shakespeare in Love).

I liked Dances with Wolves, even though I disliked how they portrayed much of the Federal Cavalry. Good stuff.

Thebazile78
02-02-2009, 09:27 AM
I have seen all of these films except Schindler's List and Driving Miss Daisy.

I enjoyed both Forrest Gump and Rain Man. I enjoyed Gump because it gave my dad and I something to talk about (he'd seen the movie before I had and wanted to discuss thematic elements, special effects and the story, which I couldn't do until I'd actually seen it. Plus, I thought Gary Sinise was a lot of fun in it.

I enjoyed Rain Man because I finally understood all of the stupid, random comments that other kids who HAD seen it (when it was originally out, I guess, or maybe on cable) were making in order to make fun of it.

I HATE TITANIC. So, Titanic gets my vote as the worst of this group.

Clunky dialogue and not even Colm Meaney could save it. That hurt. So did my butt going numb while watching it in the theater (someone else paid; they'd also gotten super-advance-opening-night tickets during the initial run.) I also find the score, especially the song My Heart Will Go On, to be beyond irritating ... and I can't listen to a note of it anymore. (Thanks so much to my Sophomore college roommate. I now despise Celine Dion and James Horner.)