2011 NASCAR Discussion

[Jughead]

get in a pool and pick a guy every week. I always have a new favorite


My heart still lies with BORIS SAID

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/duckerd/borisjustin.jpg Snoog is a Said Head cool...

[Jughead]

get in a pool and pick a guy every week. I always have a new favorite


My heart still lies with BORIS SAID

By the way I won the league here last year..I'm in a pool..It does help.....I really like John Andretti ..But it sucks also:smile:

[Tenbatsuzen]

I nearly had a heart attack watching that crash.

[The_Showstopper]

I nearly had a heart attack watching that crash.

Agreed I thought for a min they were gona be pulling fans out of the stands on boards. Damn good fence work.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

i cant believe how much that fence was bending before it threw him back onto the track.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Agreed I thought for a min they were gona be pulling fans out of the stands on boards. Damn good fence work.

They are. There's injuries. Not a shock. Just hope it's all recoverable and nobody lost an eye or something.

Carl was about 2 seconds from clearing that fence, and no one give a shit about Kesolowski.

[ScottFromGA]

that wreck reminded me of Bobby Allison's career ending wreck....also Neil Bonnent's as well. not to mention Ricky Craven's...

Yes, I seen these races live....

NASCAR needs to get rid of the wings.

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[Tenbatsuzen]

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[Tenbatsuzen]

NASCAR needs to get rid of the wings.


This just in, Bill France has suspended Scott Speed and AJ Allmendinger for the rest of the season.

[disneyspy]

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i woulda crapped myself if i was in the front row,i'm in row 40 at MIS

[led37zep]

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Holy shit...I missed the race but was watching the Nationwide replay on the flight over.

'dega wasn't nice to cars this weekend.

[Snoogans]

Just imagine they had no fence above the wall.

[denko]

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[ScottFromGA]

This just in, Bill France has suspended Scott Speed and AJ Allmendinger for the rest of the season.

ehh....forgot Hornish if your going with a joke.


but still, watch Jimmie Johnson during the wreck on the backstretch, his car attempted to lift in the back and then Carl's lifted when it was sliding backwards.

something like this is going to happen again but I fear its going to be worse.

[Snoogans]

ehh....forgot Hornish if your going with a joke.


but still, watch Jimmie Johnson during the wreck on the backstretch, his car attempted to lift in the back and then Carl's lifted when it was sliding backwards.

something like this is going to happen again but I fear its going to be worse.

In fairness, Edwards car looked like it was about to get back down before he got hit while still half in the air by Newman. And the old cars used to get some serious lift in accidents, especially the roll over shit. This car is pretty fuckin safe, and the fact that Edwards was able to run to the finish should be a great advertisement for this thing.

Even week to week, they beat the fuck out of the cars and they just keep driving.

[ScottFromGA]

In fairness, Edwards car looked like it was about to get back down before he got hit while still half in the air by Newman. And the old cars used to get some serious lift in accidents, especially the roll over shit. This car is pretty fuckin safe, and the fact that Edwards was able to run to the finish should be a great advertisement for this thing.

Even week to week, they beat the fuck out of the cars and they just keep driving.

his car was actually turning back to the forward direction before the contact with Newman....therefore, his tailend probably would have sat back down or he still would have gotten into the wall without tearing up as much as he did.....

but worse case, if his car was turned "more backwards", that car would have gotten lift JUST like the rest. I've predicted this since the first race with the wing....someone is going to get turned around at max speed, the wing is going to be caught with the air and its going to throw the car into the air.....the roof flaps showed they will not work with this car like it did with the older version. I've said its going to happen at Daytona or Talladega more so cause of the environment, but its going to happen. This was just a taste of it.

watch the wreck on the backstretch and keep notice on how Jimmie Johnson's back tires start to lift....

[Snoogans]

his car was actually turning back to the forward direction before the contact with Newman....therefore, his tailend probably would have sat back down or he still would have gotten into the wall without tearing up as much as he did.....

but worse case, if his car was turned "more backwards", that car would have gotten lift JUST like the rest. I've predicted this since the first race with the wing....someone is going to get turned around at max speed, the wing is going to be caught with the air and its going to throw the car into the air.....the roof flaps showed they will not work with this car like it did with the older version. I've said its going to happen at Daytona or Talladega more so cause of the environment, but its going to happen. This was just a taste of it.

Probably. And based on what Ive seen with the new car and what happened today, when it does happen, I bet you the driver walks away relatively unscathed.

[FatassTitePants]

that wreck reminded me of Bobby Allison's career ending wreck....also Neil Bonnent's as well. not to mention Ricky Craven's...

Yes, I seen these races live....

NASCAR needs to get rid of the wings.



No question that the Allison crash changed superspeedway racing forever in NASCAR, but that did not end Allison's career.

Allison was involved in an accident at Alabama International Motor Speedway (now Talladega Superspeedway) in May, 1987 that saw his car cut down a tire, turn sideways and go airborne into the protective catch fence that separates the speedway from the grandstands. The impact with the fence with the rear of the car at over 200 miles per hour (320 km/h) caused nearly 100 yards of fencing to be torn down. Parts and pieces of the car went flying into the grandstand injuring several spectators. This is the same race that Bill Elliott set the all-time qualifying record at 212 mph (341 km/h). In response, NASCAR mandated smaller carburetors for the remaining 1987 events at Talladega and its sister track, Daytona International Speedway. The following year, NASCAR mandated restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega to keep speeds under 200 miles per hour (320 km/h). Allison would win the first Daytona 500 run with restrictor plates in February 1988 by beating his son Davey Allison. He is the oldest driver (50 years) ever to win the Daytona 500 and the first one-two father/son finish in the Daytona 500.
Later that season, on June 19, 1988, Bobby Allison nearly died in a crash at Pocono Raceway, but was left with injuries that forced his retirement from NASCAR.

[cougarjake13]

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sadly all the non nascar fans or fringe nascar fans will love this clip

[Snoogans]

sadly all the non nascar fans or fringe nascar fans will love this clip

the hardcores love it too. It helps the guy walked away, too. Shit I bet you 99 will even think it looks pretty cool when he sees it back. He wont be happy with Kewish;guidhsa;fguhdsl;ak though

[cougarjake13]

the hardcores love it too. It helps the guy walked away, too. Shit I bet you 99 will even think it looks pretty cool when he sees it back. He wont be happy with Kewish;guidhsa;fguhdsl;ak though

true


but this wreck prob guarantees a slight jump in viewers for the next few races

[scottinnj]

I nearly had a heart attack watching that crash.

It seems one of the spectators did:
Lewis added that an eighth patient, also a female, was air-lifted to nearby Brookwood Hospital after suffering chest pains that occurred during or shortly after she witnessed the incident while sitting in the same grandstand section as the others who were injured.

Linkey Linkey (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/04/26/post.race.fans.injured.talladega.cedwards/index.html)

[scottinnj]

I've been to the track while testing was going on. It's one of those places where I'd rather watch the race at home, or be up in the nosebleeds to see the back stretch.
I'd love to go to Talladega to see a Cup race live, but I'd never want to have one of those seats at the start/finish line.
But as an Earnhardt fan, I love watching year in, year out.

[led37zep]

I've been to the track while testing was going on. It's one of those places where I'd rather watch the race at home, or be up in the nosebleeds to see the back stretch.
I'd love to go to Talladega to see a Cup race live, but I'd never want to have one of those seats at the start/finish line.
But as an Earnhardt fan, I love watching year in, year out.

Talladga and Bristol are the two tracks that started up my love for NASCAR. I was lucky enough to go to a race last year and its still one of the best experiences I've had at a sporting event. You're right about wanting to sit up high there. You can't see shit on the back half of the track unless you're up on the 2nd level.

[ScottFromGA]

Probably. And based on what Ive seen with the new car and what happened today, when it does happen, I bet you the driver walks away relatively unscathed.

you hope. Just cause theres been 2 bad wrecks in this COT version and the drivers have walked away unscathed, doesn't mean they will in the third one....remember Dale Earnhardt and his Daytona crash. You can watch so many wrecks where you'd go, "Oh MAN, he's gotta be DEAD!" and they'd come appearing from the car but a simple looking wreck like Sr's killed him, and yes I know why it killed him but the fact is a broken seatbeat doesn't kill....the car slamming into the wall breaking the belt does.

Just like Richard Petty has said for years, "You can never be too safe in a race car. You can always make this thing safe and something else will become unsafe...."

the wing is shit....worse case, that car could have caught much more air and went into the crowd making it a tragedy, not an exciting moment.

[ScottFromGA]

No question that the Allison crash changed superspeedway racing forever in NASCAR, but that did not end Allison's career.

Allison was involved in an accident at Alabama International Motor Speedway (now Talladega Superspeedway) in May, 1987 that saw his car cut down a tire, turn sideways and go airborne into the protective catch fence that separates the speedway from the grandstands. The impact with the fence with the rear of the car at over 200 miles per hour (320 km/h) caused nearly 100 yards of fencing to be torn down. Parts and pieces of the car went flying into the grandstand injuring several spectators. This is the same race that Bill Elliott set the all-time qualifying record at 212 mph (341 km/h). In response, NASCAR mandated smaller carburetors for the remaining 1987 events at Talladega and its sister track, Daytona International Speedway. The following year, NASCAR mandated restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega to keep speeds under 200 miles per hour (320 km/h). Allison would win the first Daytona 500 run with restrictor plates in February 1988 by beating his son Davey Allison. He is the oldest driver (50 years) ever to win the Daytona 500 and the first one-two father/son finish in the Daytona 500.
Later that season, on June 19, 1988, Bobby Allison nearly died in a crash at Pocono Raceway, but was left with injuries that forced his retirement from NASCAR.

I like how you used the big bold letters to prove a point....a simple PM or "hey man, you aren't quite correct" might have been sufficient.

[FatassTitePants]

I like how you used the big bold letters to prove a point....a simple PM or "hey man, you aren't quite correct" might have been sufficient.

Maybe, but where would I get an inflated sense of self worth?

Sorry...I didn't mean to make it so big and boldy. I was just trying to highlight the relevent part and things got out of hand..It wasn't so much a shot at you as it was a demonstration of my poor computer skills.

[9mileskid]

i think the gov't should look into regulating nascar.children could see this footage and who knows what will happen then.the children are our future and should be protected from scenes like this.this could effect a childs future driving.as i am not a parent i still feel a childs right to protection trumps all other rights.please write your local politicians to regulate or ban these dangerous images from our childrens future
















:bye:

[Freitag]

ehh....forgot Hornish if your going with a joke.




What does Hornish have to do with my joke? He's not Team Red Bull, he's Mobil.

[ScottFromGA]

What does Hornish have to do with my joke? He's not Team Red Bull, he's Mobil.

ohhh....see, I thought you meant they are ex-Indy car drivers.....


that one went right over my head. Sorry bout that.:blink::blink:

[ScottFromGA]

sad to hear about David Poole. He was an ass but he made valid points about the well being of the sport and how the fans viewed it.


RIP.

[FatassTitePants]

I didn't realize that Poole had died until I read it here. I assume he didnt have any symptoms since he already wrote about Talladega. I was reading his columns last night at thatsracin and by looking at his picture, I was thinking that he really needed to make some life changes or he could die young. I enjoyed his writing. Through all of NASCAR's expansion over the last decade, he refused to be a lapdog and was critical at many times...a voice of reason that only recently others in NASCAR-related media have spoken, too.

[scottinnj]

RIP.

QFT

[cougarjake13]

sad to hear about David Poole. He was an ass but he made valid points about the well being of the sport and how the fans viewed it.


RIP.



who ??

[led37zep]

"Racing Perfection" at Richmond tonight.

Who's watching?

[ScottFromGA]

who ??

David Poole was a columnist for the Charlotte Observer.....google the name, fella. :happy:

[cougarjake13]

David Poole was a columnist for the Charlotte Observer.....google the name, fella. :happy:

its so much easier for someone else to just tell me

[cougarjake13]

Ex-NASCAR driver Kevin Grubb found dead in Va. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/9547286/Ex-NASCAR-driver-Kevin-Grubb-found-dead-in-Va.)

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ex-NASCAR driver Kevin Grubb found dead in Va. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/9547286/Ex-NASCAR-driver-Kevin-Grubb-found-dead-in-Va.)

No big loss. I know that's cold, but the guy had drug issues, wouldn't play by NASCAR's rules, and committed suicide. Boo hoo hoo.

[ScottFromGA]

No big loss. I know that's cold, but the guy had drug issues, wouldn't play by NASCAR's rules, and committed suicide. Boo hoo hoo.

totally agree....he was a sub-par driver that just couldn't lay the drugs down.


I'd feel the same if Shane Hmiel did the same thing...that cocknozzle deserved to be booted after failing the tests twice.....dumbass.

[ScottFromGA]

decent Darlington race so far...

always wanted to see a race there before NASCAR forgets their roots again....

[Snoogans]

Zep will be happy, I took Biffle in my pool

[cougarjake13]

No big loss. I know that's cold, but the guy had drug issues, wouldn't play by NASCAR's rules, and committed suicide. Boo hoo hoo.

totally agree....he was a sub-par driver that just couldn't lay the drugs down.


I'd feel the same if Shane Hmiel did the same thing...that cocknozzle deserved to be booted after failing the tests twice.....dumbass.



NASCAR driver Jeremy Mayfield fails drug test (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-positivetest&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[Snoogans]

NASCAR driver Jeremy Mayfield fails drug test (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-positivetest&prov=ap&type=lgns)

my favorite driver ever now

[Jughead]

Mark Martin might do it again Oh relax its just one post!!!!!!!!. It's Darlington if you were wondering...:innocent:

[denko]

top five cars made in the hendrick garage... junior the only one that didn't do well.

[brettmojo]

top five cars made in the hendrick garage... junior the only one that didn't do well.
He's officially nuked the fridge.

[Jughead]

top five cars made in the hendrick garage... junior the only one that didn't do well.

Gordon was down 1 early also..that freaking Jimmy is sick!!!..nite Buddys

[vamessenger]

Yay for Mark Martin. I love that he is racing full time again.

[Tenbatsuzen]

top five cars made in the hendrick garage... junior the only one that didn't do well.

It's official. Junior just isn't a very good driver.

[ScottFromGA]

It's official. Junior just isn't a very good driver.

you beat me to it....


It's awesome as hell to see Martin win....He's the last link to the old days of NASCAR, him winning reminds me of how it felt watching it back in 1999 or earlier with him in the 6 car and how he was basically unstoppable.


Darlington was a great crashfest and a decent race....NASCAR fans shouldn't be too disappointed in the past 2 weeks of racing, its been pretty good!

[Snoogans]

i said that last year. Jr sucks

[ScottFromGA]

i said that last year. Jr sucks

ive said since 1999 that Junior sucks....

ive said since he got in the 8 car that he will never win a championship with famiy.

i said when he got in the 88 with Tony Jr coming along that he will never amount to anything and it will show even more now....

wheres junior nation now?:devil2:

[Snoogans]

they should can his ass and get Boris Said to drive the 4th car

[Snoogans]

http://www.borissaidfan.com/images/boris-said-with-jimmie-johnson.jpg

[spoon]

you beat me to it....


It's awesome as hell to see Martin win....He's the last link to the old days of NASCAR, him winning reminds me of how it felt watching it back in 1999 or earlier with him in the 6 car and how he was basically unstoppable.


Darlington was a great crashfest and a decent race....NASCAR fans shouldn't be too disappointed in the past 2 weeks of racing, its been pretty good!

Eh, this week didn't hold up to me. It was WAY too long, WAY too delayed and just all over the place. The prior week was a little better, but both did set caution records or at least tie them. There has to be something done with destroyed cars going back out and causing 3 cautions themselves and then finally leaving the track. It gets fucking old seeing destroyed multi-lapped cars not only getting in the way racing hard when they couldn't when ON THE LEAD LAP. Yet it's even worse when they keep taking racers in the hunt out and the constant cautions bc of them. Isn't there some set of standards out there for going back out outside of forward motion?

[cougarjake13]

It's official. Junior just isn't a very good driver.

the further he gets away from being with dei its showing that whatever they were doing there at dei contributed to his success

[FatassTitePants]

the further he gets away from being with dei its showing that whatever they were doing there at dei contributed to his success

Seriously, how does someone at this level of racing miss his pit box as many times as Jr. has this season? Is he not working on it? If it was the crew making this many mistakes, major changes would be happening.
And, why doesn't Said get a real shot? He's a great personality and pitchman and talented and would bust his ass for a full time ride.

[Tenbatsuzen]

the further he gets away from being with dei its showing that whatever they were doing there at dei contributed to his success

I wouldn't go that far.

I think the problem is, quite simply, that Junior isn't focused on racing. You don't have the success Jr. had earlier in his career and just fall apart like he has, especially with the better equipment. Having Tony Jr. around doesn't help things either.

Maybe it's unfair to kill Jr. because he rubbed the wall and took himself out of the race - after all, it IS Darlington, and Kyle Busch, who is a supremely talented driver, did the same exact thing.

I'd like to think, in a perfect world, that changing out the Crew Chief would be the first step in getting Jr. "back".

But Junior needs to focus on racing.

[burrben]

jrs just in it for the bitches. i dont blame him.

[Jughead]

No I'm not part of Jr nation.... But he is the real deal and he has the talent...He need's a new crew chief and a win to get momentum ..Look at Mark all of the sudden is he a better driver???? It is the equipment and adjustments his new crew chief Alan Gustafson has made during runs.....Jr is embarrassed by not getting the results everyone has expected....The chemistry was not good at the end of the DEI run with Tony....And better equipment Tony can not seem to get a handle on..

[cougarjake13]

I wouldn't go that far.

I think the problem is, quite simply, that Junior isn't focused on racing. You don't have the success Jr. had earlier in his career and just fall apart like he has, especially with the better equipment. Having Tony Jr. around doesn't help things either.

Maybe it's unfair to kill Jr. because he rubbed the wall and took himself out of the race - after all, it IS Darlington, and Kyle Busch, who is a supremely talented driver, did the same exact thing.

I'd like to think, in a perfect world, that changing out the Crew Chief would be the first step in getting Jr. "back".

But Junior needs to focus on racing.



well what the hell else is he focusing on ?


its not like he won the war with teresa and has to run DEI

[burrben]

well what the hell else is he focusing on ?




chicks. i already said that. no one listens to me.

[Tenbatsuzen]

well what the hell else is he focusing on ?


its not like he won the war with teresa and has to run DEI

Ever stop to think he has lingering daddy issues? Perhaps his heart isn't into racing anymore.

[vamessenger]

Eh, this week didn't hold up to me. It was WAY too long, WAY too delayed and just all over the place. The prior week was a little better, but both did set caution records or at least tie them. There has to be something done with destroyed cars going back out and causing 3 cautions themselves and then finally leaving the track. It gets fucking old seeing destroyed multi-lapped cars not only getting in the way racing hard when they couldn't when ON THE LEAD LAP. Yet it's even worse when they keep taking racers in the hunt out and the constant cautions bc of them. Isn't there some set of standards out there for going back out outside of forward motion?

You can't avoid cautions at Richmond. It's one of the wonderful things about living here. I can't wait until the fall race.

[cougarjake13]

Ever stop to think he has lingering daddy issues? Perhaps his heart isn't into racing anymore.

it entered my mind

[Jughead]

Right Now WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Tenbatsuzen]

Right Now WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I just marked out bigtime.

[Jughead]

I just marked out bigtime.

Understand...... its like a soap with death possible..Can Hornish stay up???

[Jughead]

Another shitty set up by Tony Jr....:thumbdown:

[led37zep]

I'm diggin the All Star Race, I don't think I've watched one before.

[Jughead]

It was fantastic!!! All out!!! Smoke does it!! What a story!!!!

[Jughead]

Thank you Rick for the engine...

[Jughead]

Tony In a Chevy Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Tenbatsuzen]

He won? Nice. Didn't watch the end because Liz is sick and I didn't want the tv on..

[FatassTitePants]

I am watching Indy bump day...This is depressing watching a collaboration of two of the greatest families in racing, Petty and Andretti, hanging on by a thread to make the 500. The 43 is 2 or 3 full mph off the pace. The Pettys severely lack forsight in their management.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Another shitty set up by Tony Jr....:thumbdown:

Another race, another shitty set up. FIRE HIM RICK.

[ScottFromGA]

I was looking at the rundown and seen Jr was 38th...I assumed her crashed or a blown engine.


congrats to Roo't N and Too't N.....sad that the only way MWR can get a win is by fooling the field, but hey...get it how you can, huh?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I was looking at the rundown and seen Jr was 38th...I assumed her crashed or a blown engine.




Nope. Quite simply, a shitty set up from Tony Jr. He dropped like a rock, the car was junk all day.

[Freitag]

Tony Jr....


YOU'RRRRRRRRRE FIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD DDDDD!

[Jughead]

Eury Jr. out as crew chief???..I will go look..shit Fre is on it...Hoped for it but did not see coming....WOW

[cougarjake13]

Tony Jr....


YOU'RRRRRRRRRE FIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD DDDDD!




bout time

[led37zep]

One of these days I'll stop laughing everything they say "pole sitter"

[led37zep]

Does Dover have a smaller Pit Row than most other tracks? Seems like they are in pretty tight down there.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Does Dover have a smaller Pit Row than most other tracks? Seems like they are in pretty tight down there.

Yes. It's a short track.

BTW, what is this green car running close to the front? I've never seen this car before. Can anyone identify who it is?

[brettmojo]

Yes. It's a short track.

BTW, what is this green car running close to the front? I've never seen this car before. Can anyone identify who it is?
Ain't it Dale Jarret? #88? He must have switched sponsors from UPS.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ain't it Dale Jarret? #88? He must have switched sponsors from UPS.

I think I may have spoke too soon. Ugh.

[led37zep]

Damn, that pit changed up everything.

Biffles car hasn't been that great today, we'll have to see if he can hold off smoke.


And then the 12 goes into the wall.

[led37zep]

I have a feeling this trophy doesn't go over the fireplace. I'd probably donate it to my Jr. High if I was a driver.

http://www.doverspeedway.com/images/dover/200501/3.f.jpg

[cougarjake13]

jr's crew chief isnt gonna be his perm one right ??

[brettmojo]

Where'd Jr. version 2.0 finish?

[cougarjake13]

Where'd Jr. version 2.0 finish?



12

[brettmojo]

12
Baby steps... Baby steps.

[cougarjake13]

Baby steps... Baby steps.





better than his last 5 finishes

[FatassTitePants]

I have a feeling this trophy doesn't go over the fireplace. I'd probably donate it to my Jr. High if I was a driver.

http://www.doverspeedway.com/images/dover/200501/3.f.jpg

+1

[scottinnj]

I have a feeling this trophy doesn't go over the fireplace. I'd probably donate it to my Jr. High if I was a driver.

http://www.doverspeedway.com/images/dover/200501/3.f.jpg

Where do the batteries go, what color do the eyes glow, and what "catch phrases" does it say?
"Reagan Smash!" "Reagan Smash"

[scottinnj]

Baby steps... Baby steps.

Did you see the improvement from last week? Also Tony brought a lousy car to Dover, Dale got it qualified at 22nd-crew chief change days before the race.....I say 12th place ain't that bad.

Better win off the pole next week is all I'll say.

[ScottFromGA]

well...TNT finally got it right with the theme songs. That horrible piece of shit they use to play in the past seasons with Hinder has been replaced with a remake of Highway Star by Buckcherry.


I like it.

[cougarjake13]

congrats to smoke on his first points win

[FatassTitePants]

well...TNT finally got it right with the theme songs. That horrible piece of shit they use to play in the past seasons with Hinder has been replaced with a remake of Highway Star by Buckcherry.


I like it.

I think TNT does the best production work and their analysis is the best too. Wally and Kyle don't get caught up in their own personas and don't try to be the main attraction. I will say, though, I think ABC or ESPN..whoever does the IRL races, are head and shoulders above any of the networks that do NASCAR. Their placement and use of cameras is phenominal IMO

[Tenbatsuzen]

congrats to smoke on his first points win

GODFUCKINGDAMNIT, I MISSED IT?!

I hate Pocono. SO fucking boring.

[silks]

GODFUCKINGDAMNIT, I MISSED IT?!

I hate Pocono. SO fucking boring.

Not only is it boring, but that place is hell on earth. Went there years ago, and I'll never go there again.

[cougarjake13]

GODFUCKINGDAMNIT, I MISSED IT?!

I hate Pocono. SO fucking boring.

it was

til the end when no one knew who had enough gas to get to the finish line

[led37zep]

Danica to NASCAR? (http://www.independentmail.com/news/2009/jun/03/will-danica-patrick-take-nascar-spin/)

Is this NASCARS jump the shark moment, bringing in a good looking chick with only one IRL win just to boost the sport?

If Greg Biffle can't sexy this sport up, then I don't know what can.

[lleeder]

I think they''ll jump the shark now that the budgets are getting slashed do to all the bankrupt sponsors.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think they''ll jump the shark now that the budgets are getting slashed do to all the bankrupt sponsors.

Sponsors aren't bankrupt, it's two of the four carmakers. Ford and Toyota are OK, it's the Dodge and Chevy programs that have issues.

I can see Dodge withdrawing from NASCAR, but Chevy will find a way to stay.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What a finish at Michigan. Sucks for JJ though. Annoying that Busch finished ahead of Jr.

[FatassTitePants]

it was

til the end when no one knew who had enough gas to get to the finish line

Dang! Prophetic!

[styckx]

Nascar Mexico. 6/14/09

Perhaps the worst accident I've ever seen. Driver died 45 minutes later. Shocking he lived at all after this.

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[ScottFromGA]

jesus christ...i seen this video 3 days ago and it still shocks me....

I've seen and been apart of some horrible crashes...but that has got to be the worst I've ever seen a racecar completely come apart.....

sad for Carlos and his family. NASCAR - We don't care for the Mexican safety.

[styckx]

Same. I don't follow Nascar at all anymore but, in the internet age, if there is an awful auto racing crash, you've probably seen it. Yup, this ranks up there as the worst accident I've ever seen. It's almost a blessing the water was there to shield what was probably a head turner of an impact.

[ScottFromGA]

man the double file restarts made the road course exciting!

great job number 9!

[led37zep]

I know a lot of people really like the road races but I just can't get into them that much.


Congrats To Kasey, I was hoping smoke was going to find a way to get around him but there really was no opp for him to do so either before or after the yellow.

[brettmojo]

Can these fucking tools in the booth suck any harder on Kyle Bush's dick?

[brettmojo]

Holy freakin' cautions Batman.

[denko]

i'm diggin the gordon kurt busch batte thats been going on all day.

[cougarjake13]

cheap way to get your first victory but it counts


congrats logano

[denko]

cheap way to get your first victory but it counts


congrats logano

ryan newman scored his the EXACT same way. rain shortened NH race, but ryan was actually in that one, can't say as much for logano. i went to the one newman won and it was rain, race, rain, race. i wanted to shoot myself. and to top it off you didn't even get to see the victory celebration as it was held in the garage area. i opted out of this race. going just isn't as fun as it once was... to me anyway.

[Jughead]

What a great race...Tony was right!!! Kyle blocked and got the wall!!!!!!!!!!1

[Jughead]

I never would have thought he could be so strong as an owner..What a great story for Tony!!!..He is Indiana!!!

[FatassTitePants]

TNT did a good job with the "wide open" coverage, a version of side-by-side commercials that I think was a good way to show all the green flag racing, although those Viagra commercials are aweful.
How in the hell did Hamlin get to pass under the yellow line in the middle of the race and not have to give back the position? Freaking NASCAR and their inconsistency.

[cougarjake13]

was that a one time deal with tnt or are they doing it for all theyre coverage

[scottinnj]

TNT did a good job with the "wide open" coverage, a version of side-by-side commercials that I think was a good way to show all the green flag racing, although those Viagra commercials are aweful.
How in the hell did Hamlin get to pass under the yellow line in the middle of the race and not have to give back the position? Freaking NASCAR and their inconsistency.

Gotta tell ya, TNT is doing a better job this year then FOX is. DW, you and "Digger" better come up with something or you guys will be the ones only doing 6 weeks of the season.

[beachbum]

Evidently Jeremy Mayfield hasn't risen too far from his hillbilly roots.He's a meth head.

http://http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/news/story?id=4330367&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/news/story?id=4330367&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

[led37zep]

Does Montoya have any recourse if its proven he wasn't speeding on pit row?

[led37zep]

I need to look into NASCAR events and commercial programming. During Jr's oil spill yellow flag they must have taken 3-4 commercial breaks, now after 2-3 laps on the restart they went directly to another break.

The only thing I can think of is they're setting it up to show the final 15 laps commercial free. It seems they should be up to speed by now with how long that Caution was.

[cougarjake13]

I need to look into NASCAR events and commercial programming. During Jr's oil spill yellow flag they must have taken 3-4 commercial breaks, now after 2-3 laps on the restart they went directly to another break.

The only thing I can think of is they're setting it up to show the final 15 laps commercial free. It seems they should be up to speed by now with how long that Caution was.


you'd hope theyd be smart to do it like that


unles theres another caution

[ScottFromGA]

im a huge nascar fan, but Indy just blows....160 laps of just single file racing......


Montoya screwing up in the pits is awesome....I was so happy to see him not win this one.

[led37zep]

come on Mark.

[Freakshow]

Montoya screwing up in the pits is awesome....I was so happy to see him not win this one.

yeah. bust up those NASCAR fan stereotypes!

[denko]

i think it sucks for juan, he's a clean racer and he's paid his dues. nobody was touching him yesterday, nobody on the track anyway. fucking racist nascar.

[edit] yea, scott, it was so refreshing to see johnson win again. i love when the same 4 guys win every week... yawn. nascar sucks and its on its way down... another empty racetrak this week.

[denko]

historically, guys that run well at indy run well at pocono. lets see if juan can make up for last week.

[disneyspy]

harvick gained 8 spots that last pit,theres still hope,NASCAR is back baby!

[cougarjake13]

congrats to hamlin after his loss

[Freakshow]

jpm is up to 8th in the chase, and with a road course coming up it's looking good. Although Watkins Glen is not as kind to him as Infineon is...

and for the record, I only watch Nascar because of Juan Pablo.


If you want a shitty open wheel racer to bag on, might I suggest Scott Speed?

[ScottFromGA]

welp...2 rain outs in 2 weeks.


God is not a racefan.

[cougarjake13]

welp...2 rain outs in 2 weeks.


God is not a racefan.

they should make indoor race tracks

[FatassTitePants]

welp...2 rain outs in 2 weeks.


God is not a racefan.

On the plus side, somebody told me that if a race is rained out and starts on Monday, you can just walk in without a ticket. I drove to Pocono last Monday since I had nothing better to do to test the theory. Sure nuff, even though they were selling tickets at the window, there were no staff to take them. I just walked in, found myself a seat, and enjoyed a free show. Not a bad way to spend a sunny Monday afternoon.

[denko]

jpm is up to 8th in the chase, and with a road course coming up it's looking good. Although Watkins Glen is not as kind to him as Infineon is...

and for the record, I only watch Nascar because of Juan Pablo.


If you want a shitty open wheel racer to bag on, might I suggest Scott Speed?


juan rules, all he needed was a chevy under him.

[led37zep]

Jr's leading

I don't think I've said that all year.

[led37zep]

Alright...I actually hope Jr. can pull this out now.

[ScottFromGA]

ehh......congrats to Vickers.


:dry:

[SHANEFROMGA]

i'm so f'n syked for sunday, going to the race wif cold passes. friggin sweet!!!:thumbup:

[ScottFromGA]

yeah. bust up those NASCAR fan stereotypes!

its been awhile and I totally overlooked this....but I'm confused, where in my post did I say I was happy to see Juan not win because of a stereotypical reason?


I don't like the guy....I could care less about what race he is or where he's from.

[FatassTitePants]

its been awhile and I totally overlooked this....but I'm confused, where in my post did I say I was happy to see Juan not win because of a stereotypical reason?


I don't like the guy....I could care less about what race he is or where he's from.

He probably just looked at your handle. Because stereotypes are bad...Really bad, unless directed towards the white south. Cause you all deserve it. Everyone else deserves understanding and benefit of the doubt.

[spoon]

That's a funny topic since I thought he was going to go nuts in Richmond (after my first pick Hamlin on home turf to finally take it home) with his practice times here and last race's finish. Yet in the end, he played it safe like a pussy, and fucked me with a 19th place finish. I was in 12th out of like 150 people with a lot a good guys left. Dammit. I won't lose places, but I won't move up like I thought.

[ScottFromGA]

He probably just looked at your handle. Because stereotypes are bad...Really bad, unless directed towards the white south. Cause you all deserve it. Everyone else deserves understanding and benefit of the doubt.

you know, if I had a tree and a noose, I'd hang you.



wait, what?:blink:

[Freakshow]

its been awhile and I totally overlooked this....but I'm confused, where in my post did I say I was happy to see Juan not win because of a stereotypical reason?


I don't like the guy....I could care less about what race he is or where he's from.

yeah, I don't buy it. why don't you like him? It's not like he wins too much. He drives hard and except for spinning Kyle Busch I don't remember him intentionally messing with anyone (and i've yet to meet a NASCAR fan who didn't say Busch deserves it).

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://www.chippewa.com/content/articles/2009/10/04/ap/sports/car_nascar_kansas.jpg

If Tony can't catch him, I want Mark to win.

[cougarjake13]

http://www.chippewa.com/content/articles/2009/10/04/ap/sports/car_nascar_kansas.jpg

If Tony can't catch him, I want Mark to win.




i second that emotion


im tired of double j

[led37zep]

Southern California just can't get behind NASCAR. Those stands seem emptier than usual.

[cougarjake13]

Southern California just can't get behind NASCAR. Those stands seem emptier than usual.

i remember hearing something about a 2nd cali race not gonna do well b/c of economy and such

[led37zep]

Where the track is located is one of the hardest hit areas due to the housing slump but I think the bigger issue is that Southern California just doesn't seem like a Nascar loving area. At least not enough to fill that track.



Oh well.

[cougarjake13]

Where the track is located is one of the hardest hit areas due to the housing slump but I think the bigger issue is that Southern California just doesn't seem like a Nascar loving area. At least not enough to fill that track.



Oh well.



how long has the track been in cali

[brettmojo]

Dale Jr. is looking awesome today...

How's he gonna' blow it?

[cougarjake13]

Dale Jr. is looking awesome today...

How's he gonna' blow it?



blown tire, crashes into wall in turn 3

[led37zep]

how long has the track been in cali

That track was built in 1997.

[led37zep]

Jimmy Johnson is just too damn good.

He had a massive lead after 1 lap on the restart.

[denko]

go juan.

[Jughead]

A lot of movement tonight in the points......:surrender:

[FatassTitePants]

Going to Dega this weeked for the first time ever. Never even been to Alabama. Can't wait to see what a boiled peanut tastes like.

[disneyspy]

horrible games on up here-det/st lou and chi/clev,gonna put on my harvick gear, watch talledega, turn the sound system up LOUD AND WAIT FOR THE BIG ONE,well you know what i mean

[led37zep]

With this NASCAR rule of "space between the cars on the corners" you may not see the big one you're waiting for.

[led37zep]

http://yaflamingalah.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/yawn.jpg

[SHANEFROMGA]

Dale Jr. is looking awesome today...

How's he gonna' blow it?

continue to be his overhyped no real driving talent to speak of self, and crash into the wall or another driver, who he'll say "lost all their talent" and ran into him.

[Farmer Dave]

ABC's feed has fuckin sucked today, cutting out all the time. Just missed that wreck live because the pic was all fucked up.:furious::wallbash:

[disneyspy]

ABC's feed has fuckin sucked today, cutting out all the time. Just missed that wreck live because the pic was all fucked up.:furious::wallbash:

i bet harvick dropped a load when he saw the car about to land on him

[Farmer Dave]

Ya suppose Newman just closed his eyes,or was he still driving while it was upside down?

[SHANEFROMGA]

newman is probably gonna be fined for speaking the truth about the race and nascar. I
love it when drivers go shoot style.

[disneyspy]

well that didnt take long

[led37zep]

Boring for 95% of the race and then the last 10 laps were pretty insane.

[Farmer Dave]

Boring for 95% of the race and then the last 10 laps were pretty insane.

par for the coarse.

[ScottFromGA]

I wish NASCAR would just lose about 50% of the race on Sunday.....I'm getting sick of seeing 490 laps of just "being content" and 10 laps of "Shootout Saturday Night Style Racing" as the idiots put it.


the truck series has the best idea, they run a 1/4 of the race length of the CUP series and put on 10x's the show.

[SHANEFROMGA]

I wish NASCAR would just lose about 50% of the race on Sunday.....I'm getting sick of seeing 490 laps of just "being content" and 10 laps of "Shootout Saturday Night Style Racing" as the idiots put it.


the truck series has the best idea, they run a 1/4 of the race length of the CUP series and put on 10x's the show.

yeah, at one point rusty wallace even said "don't change the channel, it's gonna get exciting at about 30 to go". paraphrasing of course, but hell i'll watch something good til the last 30 then i'll come back if thats when the good racing starts. if you feed them crap long enough they will learn to love it. or so mikie helton thinks.

[Farmer Dave]

I wish NASCAR would just lose about 50% of the race on Sunday.....I'm getting sick of seeing 490 laps of just "being content" and 10 laps of "Shootout Saturday Night Style Racing" as the idiots put it.


the truck series has the best idea, they run a 1/4 of the race length of the CUP series and put on 10x's the show.

Can't sell advertising that way. How about big money for lap leader at quarter, half, three quarter way of the race.

[disneyspy]

they should give extra points to whoever wrecks the points leaders

[SHANEFROMGA]

Can't sell advertising that way. How about big money for lap leader at quarter, half, three quarter way of the race.

back in the day they had things like that, back when it was wiston cup.

[TheInfamousBayne]

Jimmie Johsnon.........four in a row. It's pretty much over now. He's been building towards these last ten races all year. I wouldn't be the least bit surpised that he'll come back and win it again next year as well.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jimmie Johsnon.........four in a row. It's pretty much over now. He's been building towards these last ten races all year. I wouldn't be the least bit surpised that he'll come back and win it again next year as well.

Not so fast. It just got really interesting.

[ScottFromGA]

http://www.thatsracin.com/140/story/24777.html

the Wing is GONE!


so....isn't it time for a new 2010 thread?

[hanso]

http://www.10pix.ru/img1/2657/686947.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

To summarize ESPN's coverage of this race:

"Danica! Danica Danica Danica Danica! Danica Patrick! Danica!"

I hope she ends up in the wall on the first lap, and the other woman in this race, who no one is saying shit about, actually does win.

[Snoogans]

To summarize ESPN's coverage of this race:

"Danica! Danica Danica Danica Danica! Danica Patrick! Danica!"

I hope she ends up in the wall on the first lap, and the other woman in this race, who no one is saying shit about, actually does win.

HA. so that other chick hits the wall first lap. Does this mean Danica is gonna win?

[KnoxHarrington]

HA. so that other chick hits the wall first lap. Does this mean Danica is gonna win?

Could be.

I love how they made that last crash all about how brave Danica escaped narrowly

[Snoogans]

Could be.

I love how they made that last crash all about how brave Danica escaped narrowly

yea but driving straight and gettin lucky. She probably had her fuckin eyes closed

[Snoogans]

danica sucks

[disneyspy]

never was the term "lucky dog" more appropriate

[Snoogans]

never was the term "lucky dog" more appropriate

did she crash yet?

[disneyspy]

did she crash yet?

na, she got lapped but got it back from a spin out

[disneyspy]

did she crash yet?

now shes crashed

[disneyspy]

Come On Harvick!!!

[led37zep]

I hope I can be home at least one sunday this season to watch a race.

I missed both the Daytona and Auto Club and I'll be traveling this Sunday too.

I'm also officially looking for a new driver to support. I've always liked Smoke...I think I may just move over to him for the season.

[ScottFromGA]

there is a 2010 NASCAR thread now guys...unless you just love this one, which is fine.


just sayin.

[cougarjake13]

I hope I can be home at least one sunday this season to watch a race.

I missed both the Daytona and Auto Club and I'll be traveling this Sunday too.

I'm also officially looking for a new driver to support. I've always liked Smoke...I think I may just move over to him for the season.

who was your old one ??

[Snoogans]

im in 5th place in my pool overall now out of 165 people. I had JJ last race

[disneyspy]

dale jr took the pole but bush wont have none of it

heeheehee

[Snoogans]

i have jr in my pool. Somehow im in 3rd by not giving a fuck

[disneyspy]

i have jr in my pool. Somehow im in 3rd by not giving a fuck

is your pool where you can only pick the same driver once?

[Snoogans]

is your pool where you can only pick the same driver once?

yea. So far ive used ruetiman, Jimmie Johnson, and then Bowyer last week.

[disneyspy]

yea. So far ive used ruetiman, Jimmie Johnson, and then Bowyer last week.

thats what i thought,reutiman was an awesome pick for daytona,save harvick for lowes

[Snoogans]

thats what i thought,reutiman was an awesome pick for daytona,save harvick for lowes

Jr is gonna fuck me though.

[disneyspy]

Jr is gonna fuck me though.

ya he'd be a good pick for talladega,stewart for indy is a lock (oh shit i hope i didnt just hippo him)

[Snoogans]

ya he'd be a good pick for talladega,stewart for indy is a lock (oh shit i hope i didnt just hippo him)

i half assed it. I always do. I know Jr sucks and so i figured id try to steal something decent where he ran well early so that he cant fuck me later in the year

[Snoogans]

is boris said a full time driver now?

[Snoogans]

i hope dale jr doesnt get too said when someone switches to Fios

[disneyspy]

is boris said a full time driver now?

not sure but that fucker is great at road races

[Snoogans]

not sure but that fucker is great at road races

his hair rules

[Snoogans]

jr is a fuckin fag

[disneyspy]

holy fuck im loving this edwards/keslowski fued,the best wrecks invovle these two but it was pretty cheap on edwards part since he was down by 150 laps

[Tenbatsuzen]

"Carl, did you intentionally wreck Brad?"

"Well, Brad knows the deal between him and me..."

Me: "That's a yes."

[disneyspy]

"Carl, did you intentionally wreck Brad?"

"Well, Brad knows the deal between him and me..."

Me: "That's a yes."

i cant wait til keslowski is out of it and carl has a chance to win and then he goes flying

[Jughead]

Can't wait to see what they do to Carl...But Brad is a snake also..not so bad as to be killed...

[led37zep]

holy fuck im loving this edwards/keslowski fued,the best wrecks invovle these two but it was pretty cheap on edwards part since he was down by 150 laps

Exactly, but I'm loving it either way. Just wish the car didn't get airborne. Thats going to screw the "let the drivers handle it" theory NASCAR is testing out.


Congrats to Kurt Busch!

[disneyspy]

HARVICK!

[disneyspy]

hey non #29 fans,hows my ass taste?

[disneyspy]

holy shit!! his engine came flyin out of his car,ive never seen anything like that before

go harvick

[scottinnj]

He finally has a finish in the top 5 after eight races in a row outside the top ten & six of those outside the top twenty.

Great finish at Loudon budday! Too bad you couldn't do this to be able to be in the Chase.
You Suck, and I have thrown out all my Dale Jr. garbage. You better win the CHAMPIONSHIP next year to get me back into your corral of fanboys.

You Suck. Turn right & die.

[cougarjake13]

He finally has a finish in the top 5 after eight races in a row outside the top ten & six of those outside the top twenty.

Great finish at Loudon budday! Too bad you couldn't do this to be able to be in the Chase.
You Suck, and I have thrown out all my Dale Jr. garbage. You better win the CHAMPIONSHIP next year to get me back into your corral of fanboys.

You Suck. Turn right & die.




wow thats some serious hatred there

[scottinnj]

wow thats some serious hatred there

That was merely the sound of disillusionment.

[ScottFromGA]

Statement from RPM: Kasey Kahne released effective immediately. Aric Almirola to drive the No. 9 Ford at Martinsville Speedway.

I will not pull for Kahne in a Toyota...screw that.

[cougarjake13]

Statement from RPM: Kasey Kahne released effective immediately. Aric Almirola to drive the No. 9 Ford at Martinsville Speedway.

I will not pull for Kahne in a Toyota...screw that.

wheres he going to ??

[Dan 'Hampton]

Kahne driving an American car finally.
By the way NASCAR and bill france looked really bad on 30 for 30 last night with the Tim Richmomd story. Stupid hicks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

wheres he going to ??

Team Red Bull for the next year and change, then Hendrick when Martin retires in 2012

[ScottFromGA]

Kahne driving an American car finally.
By the way NASCAR and bill france looked really bad on 30 for 30 last night with the Tim Richmomd story. Stupid hicks.

i didnt see it that way....it was explained that that's how the attitude was in the 80's about AIDS in the South and pretty much everywhere in the US.

and of course Bill France looked bad...the guy was a year from death! lol.

[disneyspy]

finally we have a close chase race with only 3 races to go,damn my fantasy football i'll be watchin harvick beat that johnson,wait

[cougarjake13]

finally we have a close chase race with only 3 races to go,damn my fantasy football i'll be watchin harvick beat that johnson,wait

now you just jinxed him

[disneyspy]

now you just jinxed him

na i have faith that harvick will have johnson in his rear

[cougarjake13]

na i have faith that harvick will have johnson in his rear

thats so gay its gotta be a mod quote

[Freitag]

I really need to see what the fallout will be from Hendrick basically firing the 48 crew mid-race. That's not demoralizing. Not at all!

/sarcasm

[disneyspy]

I am against this rule has imposed four cars of NASCAR. Otherwise, it might be aboard the HMS drive your vehicle fifth. You can wait until Mark Martin retires or gets tired of his interpreter Hedrick, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Penske cars and only 3 could be another team. Petty has not worked well and I hear they are changing manufacturers next year.

first time ive heard of this but all i can say is its about f'n time

im looking forward to the new daytona track,sounds like this will be a great race with 4 lanes

now RCR has to get a 4th team so harvick can lick johnson

[cougarjake13]

first time ive heard of this but all i can say is its about f'n time

im looking forward to the new daytona track,sounds like this will be a great race with 4 lanes

now RCR has to get a 4th team so harvick can lick johnson

been a few years now that theyve had the 4 car rule

[Jughead]

been a few years now that theyve had the 4 car rule

Why Jeff Gordon Kinda owns Jimmys car Right???

[cougarjake13]

Why Jeff Gordon Kinda owns Jimmys car Right???

no he actually owned that before the rule

[cougarjake13]

nascar changes point system






http://www.nascar.com/news/110127/nascar-changes-points-clarification-explained/index.html

[FatassTitePants]

The new system might be better, but not changed enough for me.
I don't mind a change, but I don't want them changing it year after year so even though I think there are flaws, I also hope they just stick to it for legitimacy.
The winner gets 46 points, not 43. Not sure why they award the winner's points and the winner's bonus points seperately.
But at least now the winner gets about 9% more points than 2nd place. It used to be only about 3% more.

[cougarjake13]

The new system might be better, but not changed enough for me.
I don't mind a change, but I don't want them changing it year after year so even though I think there are flaws, I also hope they just stick to it for legitimacy.
The winner gets 46 points, not 43. Not sure why they award the winner's points and the winner's bonus points seperately.
But at least now the winner gets about 9% more points than 2nd place. It used to be only about 3% more.

even still winner gets 46 2nd place has 42 not enough incentive for me



winner should get 10 more or 25 more thatll make races more exciting and make them push extra hard to get that win rather than just stay where they are and get a top five or top ten

[FatassTitePants]

I just looked into it again, and you get a bonus point for leading a lap. So the winner gets 47 points.
I don't like the point for leading a lap. Maybe it could be a point for leading 5 laps or something, but how many times do you see somebody in 31st stay out on a caution, lead a lap, pit, then come back out in basically in the same position.

[cougarjake13]

I just looked into it again, and you get a bonus point for leading a lap. So the winner gets 47 points.
I don't like the point for leading a lap. Maybe it could be a point for leading 5 laps or something, but how many times do you see somebody in 31st stay out on a caution, lead a lap, pit, then come back out in basically in the same position.



agreed the need to emphasize winners and strength


so i say the driver who gets the most laps gets the point

not everyone who leads a lap

[cougarjake13]

2011 yahoo fantasy nascar


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group id 4975


password cowhead

[disneyspy]

2011 yahoo fantasy nascar


http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto


group id 4975


password cowhead

in

[disneyspy]

I just looked into it again, and you get a bonus point for leading a lap. So the winner gets 47 points.
I don't like the point for leading a lap. Maybe it could be a point for leading 5 laps or something, but how many times do you see somebody in 31st stay out on a caution, lead a lap, pit, then come back out in basically in the same position.

agreed the need to emphasize winners and strength


so i say the driver who gets the most laps gets the point

not everyone who leads a lap

you guys arent recognizing that 1 point out of 43 is alot less of an impact as 5 out of 165,i think its a good rule

[FatassTitePants]

you guys arent recognizing that 1 point out of 43 is alot less of an impact as 5 out of 165,i think its a good rule

1/43 =2.3%
5/165=3.0%

I wouldn't call that a lot less. And especially if you look at one lap in a 200 lap race being 0.5% of the race, the reward for leading a single lap is still way more out of proportion than the actual value of that lap during the race (considering that most races are more than 200 laps, any single lap is even less more significant)

So, while it may be a step in the right direction, it still is a far cry from a 'good rule' in my opinion.

[disneyspy]

1/43 new points

1/33 old points

if you look at it that way its alot more and some drivers that are on the edge wont stay out to lead that lap because they wont be gaining that much. pit time will make more of a difference

[FatassTitePants]

1/43 new points

1/33 old points

if you look at it that way its alot more and some drivers that are on the edge wont stay out to lead that lap because they wont be gaining that much. pit time will make more of a difference

I hope you're right Mr. Spy. I just don't think the new points system will force any major changes in strategy than what we've seen in recent years. But I really hope you're right.

[cougarjake13]

F.T.P.

you gonna join the yahoo fantasy league ??

[cougarjake13]

2011 yahoo fantasy nascar


http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto


group id 4975


password cowhead




still time to get in

[FatassTitePants]

F.T.P.

you gonna join the yahoo fantasy league ??

Despite the fact that I am certain that each fantasy season subtracts 3 years off of my life, I am in.

[cougarjake13]

Despite the fact that I am certain that each fantasy season subtracts 3 years off of my life, I am in.



hahaha nice



nascar isnt that bad


baseball, basketball, and hockey are the worst, esp guys who change their lineup every day

[cougarjake13]

still time left to join

[jonyrotn]

I'm sorry, but I can't take it anymore..
Listen uncledaddy... Just cuz brothergrandpa ran moonshine doesn't make driving fast a SPORT...
NASCAR, is most definitly not a sport..
It's trailer park birth control at best...
Watching a vehicle go around in a circle for six hours only appeals to people who actually, live in a vehicle..
Cars are about as exciting to me as the dentist is to you..And,
you will NEVER catch me spending my days off watching buildings settle..But even if I did, I wouldn't have the sack to try and pass it off as a sport..;-)