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paulisded
01-24-2009, 12:01 PM
I agree with everything this guy says.

http://www.slate.com/id/2209526/

The Worst Pop Singer Ever
Why, exactly, is Billy Joel so bad?
By Ron Rosenbaum
Posted Friday, Jan. 23, 2009, at 7:23 PM ET

This may seem an odd moment to bring up the subject of Billy Joel. But
the recent death of the painter Andrew Wyeth revived a long-standing
debate over whether his art is respectable or merely sentimental
schlock. (Say it: good or bad?) It got me to thinking about the
question of value in art and whether there are any absolute standards
for judging it. It indicates the question is still alive, not
relegated to irrelevance by relativism.

And then I picked up The Art Instinct, a new book by Denis Dutton, the
curator of the Arts & Letters Daily Web site. The book strives
valiantly to find a basis for judging the value of art from the
perspective of evolutionary psychology; in it, Dutton argues that a
certain kind of artistic talent offered a competitive advantage in the
Darwinian struggle for survival.

Which brings me to Billy Joel the Andrew Wyeth of contemporary pop
music and the continuing irritation I feel whenever I hear his tunes,
whether in the original or in the multitude of elevator-Muzak
versions. It is a kind of mystery: Why does his music make my skin
crawl in a way that other bad music doesn't? Why is it that so many of
us feel it is possible to say Billy Joel is well just bad, a blight
upon pop music, a plague upon the airwaves more contagious than West
Nile virus, a dire threat to the peacefulness of any given elevator
ride, not rock 'n' roll but schlock 'n' roll?

I'm reluctant to pick on Billy Joel. He's been subject to withering
contempt from hipster types for so long that it no longer seems worth
the time. Still, the mystery persists: How can he be so bad and yet so
popular for so long? He's still there. You can't defend yourself with
anti-B.J. shields around your brain. He still takes up the space,
takes up A&R advances that would otherwise support a score of
unrecognized but genuinely talented artists, singers, and songwriters,
with his loathsomely insipid simulacrum of rock.

Besides, some people still take Billy seriously. Just the other day I
was reading my old friend Jeff Jarvis' BuzzMachine blog, and Jarvis
(the Billy Joel of blog theorists) was attacking the Times' David
Carr. (Talk about an uneven fight.) Carr was speculating about whether
newspapers could survive if they adopted the economic model of iTunes.
Attempting a snotty put-down of this idea, Jarvis let slip that he's a
Joel fan: As an example somehow of his iTunes counter-theory, he
wrote: "If I can't get Allentown, the original, I'm not likely to
settle for a cover." Only the hard-core B.J. for Jeff! ("Allentown" is
a particularly shameless selection on Jarvis' part, since it's one of
B.J.'s "concern" songs, featuring the plight of laid-off workers, and
Jarvis virtually does a sack dance of self-congratulatory joy every
time he reports on print-media workers getting the ax.)

Plus, there's always the chance we'll see another of those "career
re-evaluation" essays that places like the New York Times Sunday "Arts
& Leisure" section are fond of running about the Barry Manilows of the
world. The kind of piece in which we'd discover that Billy's actually
"gritty," "unfairly marginalized" by hipsters; that his work is
profoundly expressive of late-20th-century alienation ("Captain
Jack"); that his hackneyed, misogynist hymns to love are actually
filled with sophisticated erotic angst; that his "distillations of
disillusion," to use the patois of such pieces, over the artist's role
("Piano Man," "The Entertainer," "Say Goodbye to Hollywood," etc.) are
in fact "preternaturally self-conscious," not just shallow, Holden
Caulfield-esque denunciations of "phonies," but mentionable in the
same breath as works by great artists.

This must be prevented! No career re-evaluations please! No false
contrarian rehabilitations! He was terrible, he is terrible, he always
will be terrible. Anodyne, sappy, superficial, derivative,
fraudulently rebellious. Joel's famous song "It's Still Rock and Roll
to Me"? Please. It never was rock 'n' roll. Billy Joel's music
elevates self-aggrandizing self-pity and contempt for others into its
own new and awful genre: "Mock-Rock."

And the badness of really bad art is, I believe, always worth
affirming, since it allows us to praise and to examine why we
praise "good" or "great" art.

Therefore, I decided to make a serious effort to identify the
consistent qualities across Joel's "body of work" (it almost hurts to
write that) that make it so meretricious, so fraudulent, so pitifully
bad. And so, risking humiliation and embarrassment, I ventured to the
Barnes & Noble music section and bought a four-disc set of B.J.'s
"Greatest Hits," one of which was a full disc of his musings about art
and music. I must admit that I also bought a copy of an album I
already had Return of the Grievous Angel, covers of Gram Parsons songs
by the likes of the Cowboy Junkies and Gillian Welch, whose "Hickory
Wind" is just ravishing so the cashier might think the B.J. box was
merely a gift, maybe for someone with no musical taste. Yes, reader. I
couldn't bear the sneer, even for your benefit.

And I think I've done it! I think I've identified the qualities in
B.J.'s work that distinguish his badness from other kinds of badness:
It exhibits unearned contempt. Both a self-righteous contempt for
others and the self-approbation and self-congratulation that is
contempt's backside, so to speak. Most frequently a contempt for the
supposed phoniness or inauthenticity of other people as opposed to the
rock-solid authenticity of our B.J.

I'm not saying, by the way, that contempt can't make for great art.
Dylan's "Positively 4th Street," for example, is one of the most
contemptuous songs ever written, but it redeems itself through the
joyfulness of its black-humored eloquence and wit. And Springsteen
lost something when he lost his contempt and became a
love-for-the-common-people would-be Woody Guthrie.

But let's go through the "greatest hits" chronologically and see how
this "contempt thesis" works out.

First let's take "Piano Man." You can hear Joel's contempt, both for
the losers at the bar he's left behind in his stellar schlock stardom
and for the "entertainer-loser" (the proto-B.J.) who plays for them.
Even the self-contempt he imputes to the "piano man" rings false.

"Captain Jack": Loser dresses up in poseur clothes and masturbates and
shoots up heroin and is an all-around phony in the eyes of the
songwriter who is so, so superior to him.

"The Entertainer": Entertainers are phonies! Except exquisitely
self-aware entertainers like B.J., who let you in on this secret.

(Compare The Band's beautiful, subtle tribute to Dylan's entertainer
insecurities in "Stage Fright." I love the line in that song, "he got
caught in the spotlight": such a haunting image of a shy entertainer.)

"Say Goodbye to Hollywood." Hollywood is phony! Who knew? God, doesn't
B.J. ever get tired of showing us how phony the phonies of this phony
world are? Could someone let B.J. know he's phoning it in with all
this phoniness at this point? Isn't there something, well, a bit phony
about his hysteria over phoniness?

He can't even celebrate his "New York State of Mind" without
displaying his oh-so-rebellious contempt for "the movie stars in their
fancy cars and their limousines." You think Billy Joel has really
never ridden in a limo?

"The Stranger": This is B.J. lifting that great Beatles line about
Eleanor Rigby putting on "the face that she keeps by the door." You
should see the heavy-handed mask featured on the expensive two-disc
"legacy" reissue of "The Stranger" album. So deep! Yes, B.J., you've
nailed it: We're all phonies hiding our true faces! Everyone wears a
mask! Who woulda known it without B.J. to tell us?

"Scenes From an Italian Restaurant": I can't stand it, but at least
this is one of B.J.'s tributes to "the little people" that although
it's annoying and clichid to the max doesn't completely hold its
characters in contempt.

"Anthony's Song" straight up contempt for lower-middle-class
aspirations. B.J.'s down with the authentic shit in life. This is the
one with the line about the "heart attack-ack-ack" where he
attack-ack-acks people who work two jobs so they can "trade in their
Chevy for a Cadillac"-ack-ack, something B.J. would never do. No phony
"movin' up" for him!

"Only the Good Die Young": Contempt for the Catholic religion. I know:
It's spirited if anti-spiritual, but, still ... I've heard some
Catholic girls opine on its most famous line ("Catholic girls start
much too late"), and they ain't buyin' it. B.J. is no James Joyce.

"She's Always a Woman": First, has there ever been a more blatant or
blatantly inept case of attempted artistic theft than "She's Always a
Woman"? It's such a lame imitation of Bob Dylan's "Just Like a Woman."
(B.J.'s woman "hides like a child" where Dylan's "breaks just like a
little girl.") B.J.'s woman also: is prone to "casual lies," "steals
like a thief," "takes care of herself," and "carelessly cuts you and
laughs ..." Poor B.J., recycling every misogynist clichi in the book.

At this point, reader, perhaps you have some questions for me about
this tirade? Fair enough.

What right do you have to criticize such a popular artist? Aren't you
just being elitist?

No, you don't understand: Billy's from my 'hood, mid-Long
Island Hicksville, to be precise (I'm from Bay Shore) so I'm sensitive
to his abuse of our common roots. Once I wrote something about the
curse of being from the Guyland. In it I said something heartfelt: New
Jersey may have a rep as a toxic dump for mob victims to fester in,
but at least it brought forth Bruce Springsteen. The ultimate Guyland
humiliation is to be repped to the world by Billy Joel. So I feel
entitled to be cruel may I continue?

OK. But isn't there anything you like?

Fair question. I've always liked "The Longest Time" and "An Innocent
Man." May I get back to the contemptible crap?

OK, but focus.

Well, I really can't stand the "man of the people" stuff. Like
"Allentown" and "The Downeaster 'Alexa.' " Yeah, he's a real working
man, that B.J. Sure, other artists strike that pose, but somehow with
B.J. the strain of his pretension is just too much to bear.

What else? What if you had to choose one song as the epitome of B.J. badness?

OK, I think it would have to be "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me."

Why?

It shows how completely, totally clueless Billy Joel is. It suggests
he wrote it because he thought people regarded him as an outmoded
relic because he doesn't wear the right hip-signifier clothes. That
it's a matter of his wide ties vs. New Wave skinny ties, that it's
because his car doesn't have white-wall tires or because he doesn't
dress "like a Beau Brummell" or hang out with the right crowd or look
like Elvis Costello.

He thinks people can't stand him because he dresses wrong or doesn't look
right.

Billy Joel, they can't stand you because of your music; because of
your stupid, smug attitude; because of the way you ripped off your
betters to produce music that rarely reaches the level even of
mediocrity. You could dress completely au courant and people would
still loathe your lame lyrics.

It's not that they dislike anything exterior about you. They dislike
you because of who you really are inside. They dislike you for being
you. At a certain point, consistent, aggressive badness justifies
profound hostility. They hate you just the way you are.
Ron Rosenbaum is the author of The Shakespeare Wars and Explaining Hitler.

TheMojoPin
01-24-2009, 12:08 PM
Oh my God, I love this thread.

Paulisded just proves again and again how much he rules.

Joel's music is such pandering, bland, yuppie bullshit garbage to me. There's just no soul or spirit or emotion to his music...there's zero irony in a song like "Piano Man" because his songs are shitty piano bar currios at best.

Gvac
01-24-2009, 12:09 PM
The only thing I can ever listen to by Billy Joel is the outro saxophone solo on "Scenes From An Italian Restaurant."

Too bad the rest of the song blows.

drjoek
01-24-2009, 12:18 PM
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drjoek
01-24-2009, 12:19 PM
I'm sure this article appeared. Oh So Hip and Trendy Monthly, the copy thats sitting on the beat up couch in the oh so cool,smoke filled coffehouse.

GreatAmericanZero
01-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Billy Joel can't be the worst..he's from Long Island!

pennington
01-24-2009, 12:32 PM
Wow, this guy is bitter. I bet he met Billy Joel somewhere and got snubbed.

MacVittie
01-24-2009, 12:35 PM
Chuck Klosterman has a chapter in his book Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs about how fantastic Billy Joel is. I should reread that after reading this thread.

instrument
01-24-2009, 12:40 PM
I couldn't imagine reading an article of that length about billy joel nor writing one.

underdog
01-24-2009, 12:49 PM
I get Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen and dog shit confused all the time.

TheMojoPin
01-24-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm sure this article appeared. Oh So Hip and Trendy Monthly, the copy thats sitting on the beat up couch in the oh so cool,smoke filled coffehouse.

Or the Slate, you blind maroon.

TheMojoPin
01-24-2009, 12:50 PM
Wow, this guy is bitter. I bet he met Billy Joel somewhere and got snubbed.

Maybe. In addition to making shitty music, Billy Joel is a notorious douchebg.

underdog
01-24-2009, 12:50 PM
I'm sure this article appeared. Oh So Hip and Trendy Monthly, the copy thats sitting on the beat up couch in the oh so cool,smoke filled coffehouse.

Did you just refer to slate.com as a hipster magazine?

Marc with a c
01-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I'm sure this article appeared. Oh So Hip and Trendy Monthly, the copy thats sitting on the beat up couch in the oh so cool,smoke filled coffehouse.

dr joe is christie brinkley.

paulisded
01-24-2009, 01:05 PM
dr joe is christie brinkley.

I bet Christie would agree with this article.

Marc with a c
01-24-2009, 01:08 PM
I bet Christie would agree with this article.

so would a lot of trees.

drjoek
01-24-2009, 01:29 PM
dr joe is christie brinkley.



I've finally been unmasked, time to start using my board character. Alexa Rae.

GreatAmericanZero
01-24-2009, 01:36 PM
see, the reason billy joel sucks is cuz when he says "JFK..blown away..what else do i have to say?" a really good lyricist would come up with more to say

Sue_Bender
01-24-2009, 01:40 PM
I get Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen and dog shit confused all the time.

Yay, you! :clap:

KC2OSO
01-25-2009, 10:51 AM
see, the reason billy joel sucks is cuz when he says "JFK..blown away..what else do i have to say?" a really good lyricist would come up with more to say
"JFK..blown away, half of Ron and Fez is gay."

"AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz." All time favorite B.J. lyric. Hey, it rhymes.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 10:59 AM
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GreatAmericanZero
01-25-2009, 11:04 AM
"JFK..blown away, half of Ron and Fez is gay."

"AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz." All time favorite B.J. lyric. Hey, it rhymes.

for real, if you just think about it, "we didn't start the fire" is one of the stupidest songs ever. It just rhymes things that happened every decade

i don't know if this is just cuz i went to high school in Long Island (where BJ is royalty) but in every yearbook for our school we would have our own lyrics for "we didn't start the fire" for the year we graduated

so since i graduated in the summer of 01 it would be like "hanging chad, gore is mad, "battlefield earth" was really realy bad"

paulisded
01-25-2009, 11:11 AM
for real, if you just think about it, "we didn't start the fire" is one of the stupidest songs ever. It just rhymes things that happened every decade

i don't know if this is just cuz i went to high school in Long Island (where BJ is royalty) but in every yearbook for our school we would have our own lyrics for "we didn't start the fire" for the year we graduated

so since i graduated in the summer of 01 it would be like "hanging chad, gore is mad, "battlefield earth" was really realy bad"

Oh god, I hate that song.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 11:12 AM
for real, if you just think about it, "we didn't start the fire" is one of the stupidest songs ever. It just rhymes things that happened every decade

It's so fucking bad, especially since he so obviously picks out meaningless bullshit just so he can rhyme.

"Cola Wars/I just can't take it anymore?!?" YOU ASS.

It would be one thing if the whole thing was a joke, but he so obviously wants it to seem epic and serious, especially with that super douche-y video.

Still not as painful as goddamn "Matter of Trust." The opening count-off is like a countdown to deep hurting...ugh, and then the video, where he's playing with the dorkiest band of all time singing the dorkiest song of all time and, of course, everyone on the streets of NYC just finds it AWESOME and has to stop everything and start dancing to their nerdy, overproduced, stilted yuppie horseshit.

Judge Smails
01-25-2009, 11:12 AM
What a bunch of elitist snobs posting in this fucking thread.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 11:13 AM
And what's the one about the fishermen?

God, please die, Billy Joel.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 11:15 AM
What a bunch of elitist snobs posting in this fucking thread.

So stating we don't like something makes us elitist? God, I hate the argument.

Judge Smails
01-25-2009, 11:17 AM
So stating we don't like something makes us elitist? God, I hate the argument.

Easy Francis, it was a call-back.

That being said - how can you beat this poetry?

Working too hard can give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack
You ought-a know by now - who needs a house out in Hackensack?


I defy anyone to find another artist with the balls to work Hackensack, NJ into a song.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Shit, even just in terms of 70's piano pop-rock singers or whatever the fuck they are, Elton John pisses all over Billy Joel.

GreatAmericanZero
01-25-2009, 11:20 AM
So stating we don't like something makes us elitist? God, I hate the argument.

"Paulisded, elitist thread, people now wish him dead

we didn't start the messageboard, it was always posting since ron's been boasting"

paulisded
01-25-2009, 11:21 AM
Easy Francis, it was a call-back.



Ok, but I'm used to people throwing out that word whenever you state an opinion against somebody famous.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 11:22 AM
"Paulisded, elitist thread, people now wish him dead

we didn't start the messageboard, it was always posting since ron's been boasting"

Gaz > Billy Fucking Joel.

I think the moment I decided I hated him was in '78 or so when I read an article where he tried to portray himself as a tough guy because he once took boxing lessons. Yeah, right.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 11:23 AM
"Paulisded, elitist thread, people now wish him dead

we didn't start the messageboard, it was always posting since ron's been boasting"

Holy shit, you just killed me.

SatCam
01-25-2009, 11:28 AM
A lot of hate here for a man who is a good pianist, an ok songwriter and a good performer. I used to not like him but that was because I listened to the songs mentioned above. I hear a ton of billy joel songs at work and they are all terrible--
piano man, just the way you are, she's always a woman, honesty (ugh), the longest time, etc. etc.

he has a few bearable "hits" - big shot, allentown, baby grand w/ ray charles, only the good die young


But some of his less popular stuff is a lot better....... worst comes to worst, zanzibar, aint no crime, somewhere along the line, ny state of mind



All Im saying is don't judge the man entirely by his hits. he's not the best but he has some good songs. good day.

biozombie
01-25-2009, 11:37 AM
I never thought I'd publicly bash the rather enjoyable Mr. Joel, but he ain't got shit on the true keepers of the throne of Long Island rock:
Blue Oyster Cult

They're livin' for givin' the devil his due.
They're burnin', they're burnin', they're burnin', they're burnin' for you.

IamFogHat
01-25-2009, 11:39 AM
What a bunch of elitist snobs posting in this fucking thread.

He stinks. Deal with it.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 11:42 AM
This thread has inspired me to pull out my copy of Joe Queenan's Red Lobster, White Trash, and the Blue Lagoon. Besides chapters on American mediocrities such as the Olive Garden and John Tesh, he has an entire chapter where he compares the careers of Joel and Phil Collins to determine the worst rock star ever. His conclusions:

"Collins has written many, many bad songs. But they tend to be bland and overproduced rather than catchy. Phil Collins has one annoying trick that he uses over and over again: those irksome Miami Sound Machine horns wailing away in the background, creating a pseudo-Carnival atmosphere of Cockney salsa. But Phil Collins doesn't lay it on the line the way Billy Joel does. You've never heard anyone quote a line from a Phil Collins song. Sure, "Take Me Home" is a useless tune, as are "In the Air Tonight" and "One More Night". But once they end, you can barely remember what they sounded like. You can only remember that they didn't sound very good.

In summation, Phil Collins is a bald, bland Englishman who writes masses of interchangeably uninteresting songs. Like Joel, Phil Collins reached an impressive leve of suckiness at an early point in his career, but unlike Joel he just stayed there. Joel moved heaven and earth to keep getting worse. Moreove, at no time in his career has Collins ever written anything as hynotically abhorrent as "Captain Jack" or "She's Always a Woman". If I were asked to write down the names of ten Phil Collins songs that suck, I would be incapable of doing so. But I could spit out fifty Billy Joel songs right off the top of my head. In the competition for top honors between the two, I see no contest here."

GreatAmericanZero
01-25-2009, 11:45 AM
I never thought I'd publicly bash the rather enjoyable Mr. Joel, but he ain't got shit on the true keepers of the throne of Long Island rock:
Blue Oyster Cult

They're livin' for givin' the devil his due.
They're burnin', they're burnin', they're burnin', they're burnin' for you.

im from long island, never even knew that Blue Oyster Cult was long islanders. i thought they were british!

but its more than a stereotype, billy joel is really loyalty to us folk

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 11:57 AM
All Im saying is don't judge the man entirely by his hits. he's not the best but he has some good songs. good day.

I was raised on the catalog.

Pass.

drjoek
01-25-2009, 12:06 PM
im from long island, never even knew that Blue Oyster Cult was long islanders. i thought they were british!

but its more than a stereotype, billy joel is really loyalty to us folk

Originally known as Soft White Underbelly
from Wantagh I believe

GreatAmericanZero
01-25-2009, 12:07 PM
from Wantagh I believe

wow, and thats where my parents live. My mom grew up in Seaford and i never heard my parents once talk about "Blue Oyster Cult" (except to quote the SNL skit)

paulisded
01-25-2009, 12:16 PM
Originally known as Soft White Underbelly
from Wantagh I believe

And Patti Smith wrote some of their early lyrics (she was dating one of the members).

ChrisBrown
01-25-2009, 12:18 PM
I like to listen to billy joel while I eat my olive garden takeout, right before I watch Mencia

Westley
01-25-2009, 12:21 PM
I like to listen to billy joel while I eat my olive garden takeout, right before I watch Mencia

u have bad tastes

GreatAmericanZero
01-25-2009, 12:25 PM
u have bad tastes

you are so obviously a bit

KojiClutch
01-25-2009, 12:57 PM
Dr. Suess > Billy Joel

biozombie
01-25-2009, 02:10 PM
And Patti Smith wrote some of their early lyrics (she was dating one of the members).

How weird is it that she married Fred "Sonic" Smith & BOC did the pussiest cover of "Kick Out The Jams" ever recorded?

KnoxHarrington
01-25-2009, 02:14 PM
Ever listen to his attempts at "classical" piano?
He's one of those guys, like Sting, who occasionally decides to suck in a whole different genre.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 02:16 PM
He's one of those guys, like Sting, who occasionally decides to suck in a whole different genre.

Hahahahahahahaaah! Great point!

And man, Sting is annoying. He made some snappy post-punk songs with the Police for a few years and apparently somehow decided he's some kind of New Age/World Music guru because of it.

GET OVER YOURSELF, GORDON. The next time Sting decides to "revive" Medieval music, this should be the response. (http://gimmethelute.ytmnd.com/)

Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-25-2009, 02:16 PM
I'm going out on a limb here and explaining why I don't necessarily think Billy Joel sucks as bad as you all say.

GRANTED, he lived in the town I grew up in (Oyster Bay) and he'd often be seen in town and was always very friendly. A lot of people in Oyster Bay were fans of Billy Joel. I was one of them. I even used to eat at Christiano's-- the restaurant that Scene's from an Italian Restaurant was based on.

For an 11 or 12-year-old kid, his music rocked; given what it was. It was my first foray into music (I mean other than seeing The Ramones on Sha Na Na). I did move on to much different tastes. I had a slew of Billy Joel albums in junior high. Do I own them now? No. As a matter of fact, I sold them in college when I needed cash and got made fun of by the idiot clerk in the Whitesnake shirt.

ANYHOO-- I was actually thinking of downloading a few of his songs for old time's sake. It's part of my youth (as is the local roller skating rink) and there's a certain amount of LI pride that I still have. I'm not trying to justify my taste in music. I really don't give a shit what anyone thinks of it. Sometimes, certain things "sing" to us (sorry for the pun). That is why they are called Guilty Pleasures.

I know Billy Joel has a gazillion fans, but if you think about it, there's a guy, somewhere right now, playing air guitar to Night Ranger or Toto set to 11.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 02:37 PM
I'm shredding to Stryper as we speak.
































Nah, just kidding. I'm not Hottub.

DiabloSammich
01-25-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm shredding to Stryper as we speak.
































Nah, just kidding. I'm not Hottub.


Really?

Hard to tell sometimes.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 02:39 PM
Really?

Hard to tell sometimes.

Sir, you forget yourself. THAT IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH.

We duel at dawn.

DiabloSammich
01-25-2009, 02:41 PM
Sir, you forget yourself. THAT IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH.

We duel at dawn.


Yeah, I know. I've been way too full of myself lately.


Please accept this application to the Billy Joel fan club in your name as my way of saying...meh.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 02:45 PM
Yeah, I know. I've been way too full of myself lately.


Please accept this application to the Billy Joel fan club in your name as my way of saying...meh.

Why, you-!!!

I'm shaking my fist SO hard at you right now.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-25-2009, 02:56 PM
Why, you-!!!

I'm shaking my fist SO hard at you right now.

If you're meeting for a duel, I'm hiding on the grassy knoll.

Back and to the left. Back and too the left.








I just haven't decided who's getting it.

TheMojoPin
01-25-2009, 03:19 PM
I'll work my moustache into a Greg Norton masterpiece!

Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-25-2009, 03:27 PM
http://modernserf.com/images/beard/greg%20norton%2080s.jpg

It's cute, but WAAAAAAY too many people want you out.




Sorry.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 03:27 PM
I'll work my moustache into a Greg Norton masterpiece!

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-25-2009, 03:34 PM
Thanks for posting that Paul!


And, truth me know, I would have so done Grant Hart.

I'm sorry-- homosexuality was SO MUCH MORE up in the air than it is today!

paulisded
01-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Thanks for posting that Paul!


And, truth me know, I would have so done Grant Hart.

I'm sorry-- homosexuality was SO MUCH MORE up in the air than it is today!

What I love so much about Husker Du videos is the constant shots of downtown Minneapolis. I spent so much time there during this period, so watching these vids brings up so many memories. The 'mats may be my ultimate band, but the Huskers are really the quintessential mid-80's Minneapolis band.

meanmrbill
01-25-2009, 03:56 PM
I'm sure this article appeared. Oh So Hip and Trendy Monthly, the copy thats sitting on the beat up couch in the oh so cool,smoke filled coffehouse.
Another place where you don't get laid?

Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-25-2009, 03:58 PM
What I love so much about Husker Du videos is the constant shots of downtown Minneapolis. I spent so much time there during this period, so watching these vids brings up so many memories. The 'mats may be my ultimate band, but the Huskers are really the quintessential mid-80's Minneapolis band.

I agree. There was always this bit of rivalry b/w the bands and Twin Tone.

I'm a girl so I went with the band Tommy was in. :-) (I know, I lose points! But Mojo can vouch for me. If he isn't dead manana).

I DO remember the first time I heard Sugar's Copper Blue. My best friend and then roomate got tix to see Conan O'Brien. We saw C O'B in 1993 so it had been well out by then. JUST GOES to show, you can find awesome music at anytime.

Copper Blue-- still one my fave albums.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 04:10 PM
I agree. There was always this bit of rivalry b/w the bands and Twin Tone.

I'm a girl so I went with the band Tommy was in. :-) (I know, I lose points! But Mojo can vouch for me. If he isn't dead manana).

I DO remember the first time I heard Sugar's Copper Blue. My best friend and then roomate got tix to see Conan O'Brien. We saw C O'B in 1993 so it had been well out by then. JUST GOES to show, you can find awesome music at anytime.

Copper Blue-- still one my fave albums.

Nobody who chooses the 'mats can ever lose points with me!!!

IamFogHat
01-25-2009, 04:18 PM
I should probably post this in the celebrity connection thread but whatever. My mom had the same piano teacher as Billy Joel, they both hail from that awful part of NY. Also, the girl Virginia in the song "Only the Good Die Young" is about my mom's best friend growing up that he apparently tried unsuccessfully to bang.
BTW that song is great, but only when Anthony doodily-doodily doo's it.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 04:23 PM
BTW that song is great, but only when Anthony doodily-doodily doo's it.

I hope you're being sarcastic, cuz I always turn down the sound when Ant goes into that doodily doo garbage.

IamFogHat
01-25-2009, 04:43 PM
I hope you're being sarcastic, cuz I always turn down the sound when Ant goes into that doodily doo garbage.

To each his own, but there's an innocent silliness to that bit that kills me every time, but particularly that song, mostly cause I annoy my chick with it constantly.

paulisded
01-25-2009, 04:45 PM
To each his own, but there's an innocent silliness to that bit that kills me every time, but particularly that song, mostly cause I annoy my chick with it constantly.

Fair enough.

Stankfoot
01-25-2009, 05:32 PM
Billy Joel should die for "Its Still Rock and Roll To Me" alone -

"Hot funk, cool punk, even if it's old junk
It's still rock and roll to me"

biozombie
01-25-2009, 05:40 PM
Billy Joel & Kenny Loggins made some of the best music to tap my toes to while standing in the checkout line in the supermarket. I wouldn't put any of that dogshit on my already dogshit filled ipod, but I'll enjoy it while perusing the aftershaves and vitamins at Walgreens.

MC Pee Pants
01-25-2009, 05:52 PM
I can't listen to Elton John or Billy Joel. Someone also mentioned Bruce Springsteen as garbage so Im throwing Bonjovi in there too. Its all trash that makes me angry when i hear it.

realmenhatelife
01-25-2009, 06:24 PM
The only good thing about Billy Joel is when Avail covers You may be Right

extracheese
01-25-2009, 07:00 PM
I love Billy Joels music. Perhaps its because i grew up when he was putting out hits during the 70s 80s and 90s. He sold 150 Million records so i know im not alone on this. Turnstiles is one of my all time favorite albums. I have a bootleg cassette tape of his live performance at The Bottom Line from 1976 that was broadcast one time on WNEW 102.7 back in 1976.
I am trying to find a way to get it transferred to CD.

LONG LIVE THE PIANO MAN!!