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lleeder
01-18-2009, 02:33 PM
Kurt Warner just got his second team to a Superbowl. Brett Farve couldn't get the Jets to the playoffs. They've both won one a piece. This will be Warner's third trip to the Superbowl and Farve's been there twice. They both have been MVP's.

epo
01-18-2009, 02:33 PM
Shut up.

Knowledged_one
01-18-2009, 02:37 PM
Both are hof'ers

underdog
01-18-2009, 02:58 PM
But Brett Favre always looks like he's having so much fun out there!

K.C.
01-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Kurt Warner just got his second team to a Superbowl. Brett Farve couldn't get the Jets to the playoffs. They've both won one a piece. This will be Warner's third trip to the Superbowl and Farve's been there twice. They both have been MVP's.

The sheer 'in-your-face Epo'-ness of this thread redeems you, after the 'LeBron as football' player thread from earlier.

Well done.

Heather 8
01-18-2009, 03:01 PM
But Brett Favre always looks like he's having so much fun out there!

Well, yeah, being a gunslinger and all.

underdog
01-18-2009, 03:01 PM
Favre is such a gun slinger.

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:01 PM
well theyre both 1-1 in super bowls


i guess you can say how super bowl 43 turns out decides it



but even before that i'd say warner

underdog
01-18-2009, 03:02 PM
Well, yeah, being a gunslinger and all.

Favre is such a gun slinger.

Haha.

King Hippos Bandaid
01-18-2009, 03:02 PM
I bet Warner retires with some class


but Favre was better

razorboy
01-18-2009, 03:03 PM
Somewhere in heaven Brett Favre's Dad is watching him being a pussy attention whore.

spoon
01-18-2009, 03:04 PM
So what's the question Lleeder? Who's better at throwing picks or all around turnovers!? For the first I'd go Farve, the latter Warner.

disneyspy
01-18-2009, 03:04 PM
just cuz favre is almost as old as warners wife doesnt really make this thread fair

spoon
01-18-2009, 03:04 PM
I bet Warner retires with some class


but Favre was better

But it isn't fair, Teebow and Warner have GOD on their side you know.

vjr97
01-18-2009, 03:04 PM
warner had the benefit of playing indoors but he is and will never be the i-n-t miester that favre is.kurt is also going to his 3rd superbowl.close call.good question.

spoon
01-18-2009, 03:05 PM
just cuz favre is almost as old as warners wife doesnt really make this thread fair

And Marc wants to fuck them both!

epo
01-18-2009, 03:06 PM
well theyre both 1-1 in super bowls


i guess you can say how super bowl 43 turns out decides it



but even before that i'd say warner

Mouth-breather

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:06 PM
But it isn't fair, Teebow and Warner have GOD on their side you know.

warner had the benefit of playing indoors but he is and will never be the i-n-t miester that favre is.kurt is also going to his 3rd superbowl.close call.good question.

yeh both the rams and cards were dome teams


guess that afl experience came in handy

KojiClutch
01-18-2009, 03:45 PM
It's Favre, hands down. His performance in There's Something About Mary was brilliant, while Warner has never been in a movie.

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:48 PM
It's Favre, hands down. His performance in There's Something About Mary was brilliant, while Warner has never been in a movie.

but he was on wheel of fortune

Sinestro
01-18-2009, 03:49 PM
Neil Lomax

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:51 PM
don majikowski

KojiClutch
01-18-2009, 03:52 PM
but he was on wheel of fortuneYeah, but he didn't land Vanna White because he's married to a man-looking woman. Doesn't count.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 03:52 PM
Warner. Simply because he's led two different teams to Super Bowls. Bringing your own team back to one is hard enough - but different teams? The only person who comes close in the modern era to that is probably Elway, whose SB-winning Broncos teams were radically different than the Reeves-era teams.

The other thing is that Warner has shown leadership qualities that Favre seems to be lacking, especially with the backlash he's been dealing with. You never heard about these personality issues with Warner that you hear with Favre.

The final piece - Warner worked his ASS off to get where he was. Think about this. Warner has played in the AFL, the NFLE, and then the NFL and led two different teams to the Super Bowl. No other QB can claim that.

Knowledged_one
01-18-2009, 03:53 PM
don majikowski

i know this guy

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 03:56 PM
Excuse me - the other QB to lead two different teams to the Super Bowl was... Craig Morton?

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:56 PM
Warner. Simply because he's led two different teams to Super Bowls. Bringing your own team back to one is hard enough - but different teams? The only person who comes close in the modern era to that is probably Elway, whose SB-winning Broncos teams were radically different than the Reeves-era teams.

The other thing is that Warner has shown leadership qualities that Favre seems to be lacking, especially with the backlash he's been dealing with. You never heard about these personality issues with Warner that you hear with Favre.

The final piece - Warner worked his ASS off to get where he was. Think about this. Warner has played in the AFL, the NFLE, and then the NFL and led two different teams to the Super Bowl. No other QB can claim that.


yeh not unless the panthers ever release delhomme and he does it

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 03:57 PM
Excuse me - the other QB to lead two different teams to the Super Bowl was... Craig Morton?

yep the one and only


til kurt

Knowledged_one
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
Warner. Simply because he's led two different teams to Super Bowls. Bringing your own team back to one is hard enough - but different teams? The only person who comes close in the modern era to that is probably Elway, whose SB-winning Broncos teams were radically different than the Reeves-era teams.

The other thing is that Warner has shown leadership qualities that Favre seems to be lacking, especially with the backlash he's been dealing with. You never heard about these personality issues with Warner that you hear with Favre.

The final piece - Warner worked his ASS off to get where he was. Think about this. Warner has played in the AFL, the NFLE, and then the NFL and led two different teams to the Super Bowl. No other QB can claim that.

the only exception i would say is that all nfl qb's work their ass off to get where they are at, it just took warner more time and places to prove he belonged. Its not like favre came from some big school and was handed a starting job

disneyspy
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
trent dilfer took 3,so please end this line of illogical smartness

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 04:01 PM
trent dilfer took 3,so please end this line of illogical smartness

it was only one there budday

disneyspy
01-18-2009, 04:03 PM
well he shouda gone with 3,seattle and tb confuse me

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:05 PM
trent dilfer took 3,so please end this line of illogical smartness

...wha? Ravens in 2000-2001. When else?

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:08 PM
the only exception i would say is that all nfl qb's work their ass off to get where they are at, it just took warner more time and places to prove he belonged. Its not like favre came from some big school and was handed a starting job

Yes, but Warner had to work his ass off just to get into the League itself.

Francesa was talking about HOF qualifications... he said Faulk is a lock to get in, but Warner needed to get into the Super Bowl this year to lock. That I don't get... Two MVPs, one ring and two SB appearances isn't good enough to get you in?

Knowledged_one
01-18-2009, 04:08 PM
And couldnt you argue that tom brady has won superbowls with different styles of offense (similar to what you said about elway)

K.C.
01-18-2009, 04:08 PM
Warner. Simply because he's led two different teams to Super Bowls. Bringing your own team back to one is hard enough - but different teams? The only person who comes close in the modern era to that is probably Elway, whose SB-winning Broncos teams were radically different than the Reeves-era teams.

The other thing is that Warner has shown leadership qualities that Favre seems to be lacking, especially with the backlash he's been dealing with. You never heard about these personality issues with Warner that you hear with Favre.

The final piece - Warner worked his ASS off to get where he was. Think about this. Warner has played in the AFL, the NFLE, and then the NFL and led two different teams to the Super Bowl. No other QB can claim that.


See, I would say Warner because Favre is an overrated piece of garbage.

But that's just me.

:sleep:


Warner is maybe the most underrated player of this generation of football players, though. When you really get down to his numbers and accomplishments, there's no question about him being a Hall of Famer.

And he's single-handedly revived two of the WORST franchises in professional football (The Rams were a joke before 1999).

epo
01-18-2009, 04:09 PM
Warner. Simply because he's led two different teams to Super Bowls. Bringing your own team back to one is hard enough - but different teams?

By that logic, Craig Morton is also better than Favre. That's just crazy talk.

KojiClutch
01-18-2009, 04:09 PM
Yes, but Warner had to work his ass off just to get into the League itself.

Francesa was talking about HOF qualifications... he said Faulk is a lock to get in, but Warner needed to get into the Super Bowl this year to lock. That I don't get... Two MVPs, one ring and two SB appearances isn't good enough to get you in?Sad, isn't it?

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 04:12 PM
well he shouda gone with 3,seattle and tb confuse me

yeh he wasnt on those teams anymore when they went

although he was close with seattle, leaving the year they went but he wasnt the starter anyway

Knowledged_one
01-18-2009, 04:13 PM
Yes, but Warner had to work his ass off just to get into the League itself.

Francesa was talking about HOF qualifications... he said Faulk is a lock to get in, but Warner needed to get into the Super Bowl this year to lock. That I don't get... Two MVPs, one ring and two SB appearances isn't good enough to get you in?

your first mistake is listening to anything that fat turd francesa says.

and i understood what you meant about warner just how it was worded struck me as awkward. I take it back matty you do know things about sports and i was wrong

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Sad, isn't it?

It's also Francesa. He was comparing Warner to fucking Plunkett.

If Warner has 2 more seasons of 3000 yards, his stats would be on par with Jim Kelly's, a first-ballot inductee.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:16 PM
By that logic, Craig Morton is also better than Favre. That's just crazy talk.

Shit, Craig Mack is better than Favre. Flava in ya ear, holla.

disneyspy
01-18-2009, 04:18 PM
fuck i yahoo'd superbowl+qb+2 different teams and it sent me to a rf.net thread that i backed up aikman in,i forgot we already discussed this,heres my sign,some one google image search STUPID

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 04:19 PM
hell morton salt is better than favre

Sinestro
01-18-2009, 04:21 PM
It's not Farve's fault his WRs run the wrong routes on his INTs.

epo
01-18-2009, 04:22 PM
Shit, Craig Mack is better than Favre. Flava in ya ear, holla.

You are just bitter that the Jets were dumb enough to trade for a retired 39-year old QB who didn't know the playbook or workout all off-season.

If he had stayed retired, this thread wouldn't exist. This might be Lleeder's worst thread ever.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:22 PM
And couldnt you argue that tom brady has won superbowls with different styles of offense (similar to what you said about elway)

As Cassel has shown this season, I'm beginning to think Brady is a product of the Belichick system rather than Brady being a gift from Football Heaven. There's no denying he's a good QB. But it would be interesting to see how Brady would react on a non-Belichick team, although that's not going to happen.

Only reason Patriots didn't make the playoffs is the Jets beating them in OT and they were fucking decimated by injuries.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:24 PM
You are just bitter that the Jets were dumb enough to trade for a retired 39-year old QB who didn't know the playbook or workout all off-season.

If he had stayed retired, this thread wouldn't exist. This might be Lleeder's worst thread ever.

I'm more bitter about saying that the Jets should have drafted Flacco. But does anybody listen to me? No. Instead, they get the old man and a shitty selection of QB's in the draft this year.

The only redeeming thing is going to be if they get Gruden. If they get Gruden, I'll feel a lot better.

epo
01-18-2009, 04:27 PM
I'm more bitter about saying that the Jets should have drafted Flacco. But does anybody listen to me? No. Instead, they get the old man and a shitty selection of QB's in the draft this year.

The only redeeming thing is going to be if they get Gruden. If they get Gruden, I'll feel a lot better.

If they get Gruden, they mine as well keep Favre for a year to ease the transition for a young QB.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:29 PM
If they get Gruden, they mine as well keep Favre for a year to ease the transition for a young QB.

I seriously wouldn't mind Gruden and Favre for a year to see what happens. My biggest issue with the Jets HC picks has been constantly hiring guys with no HC experience.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 04:30 PM
BTW, Ben R. has got to be the fattest fucking QB I've ever seen. he makes Lorezen look skinny. When you're wearing black and still look fat, you're fat.

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 05:00 PM
BTW, Ben R. has got to be the fattest fucking QB I've ever seen. he makes Lorezen look skinny. When you're wearing black and still look fat, you're fat.

my wife just said he same thing

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 05:03 PM
my wife just said he same thing

You allow your wife to talk during football?

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 05:05 PM
You allow your wife to talk during football?

now that she's a football fan and knowledgeable about the game



yes

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 05:07 PM
If you mean today, its Warner hands down. Career? It's still Favre

Judge Smails
01-18-2009, 05:12 PM
I don't give Warner one iota of credit for anything that he's ever accomplished. Did anyone see the on-field interview as soon as the game was over? He said it himself - he owes everything to Jesus. I guess Jesus had some cash on the Cards today and the Rams back in 2000. Now, if you want to add Jesus to your little poll then I'd vote for him.

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 05:13 PM
http://multimedia.premierespeakers.com/speaker/web/10823.jpg

Damn. Wow.

K.C.
01-18-2009, 05:14 PM
I don't give Warner one iota of credit for anything that he's ever accomplished. Did anyone see the on-field interview as soon as the game was over? He said it himself - he owes everything to Jesus. I guess Jesus had some cash on the Cards today and the Rams back in 2000. Now, if you want to add Jesus to your little poll then I'd vote for him.

Damn, Jesus must be awesome against the spread this year.

What's his 900 number?

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 05:14 PM
I don't give Warner one iota of credit for anything that he's ever accomplished. Did anyone see the on-field interview as soon as the game was over? He said it himself - he owes everything to Jesus. I guess Jesus had some cash on the Cards today and the Rams back in 2000. Now, if you want to add Jesus to your little poll then I'd vote for him.

He owes alot of it to Larry Fitzgerald and Bruce/Holt also

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 05:15 PM
BTW, Ben R. has got to be the fattest fucking QB I've ever seen. he makes Lorezen look skinny. When you're wearing black and still look fat, you're fat.

You have obviously never watched a Raiders game

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 05:17 PM
You have obviously never watched a Raiders game

Guilty. But... can you blame me?

epo
01-18-2009, 05:18 PM
He owes alot of it to Larry Fitzgerald and Bruce/Holt also

Fitz could make Rex Grossman look awesome.

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Guilty. But... can you blame me?

hahaha no, but Jamarcus Russel is a fuckin tank

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 05:29 PM
Fitz could make Rex Grossman look awesome.

Fitz could make Rex MANNING look awesome.

Friday
01-18-2009, 05:33 PM
Fitz could make Rex MANNING look awesome.

rex manning IS awesome!

http://bp1.blogger.com/_8bmR4tAmQ4A/Rcf4SI7giRI/AAAAAAAAAIM/iH_8ls7dup0/s320/rex+manning.jpg

Snoogans
01-18-2009, 05:34 PM
uh oh, someone let the woman into a sports discussion.

cougarjake13
01-18-2009, 05:35 PM
uh oh, someone let the woman into a sports discussion.

what else would you expect from a packers fan

Tenbatsuzen
01-18-2009, 08:19 PM
rex manning IS awesome!

http://bp1.blogger.com/_8bmR4tAmQ4A/Rcf4SI7giRI/AAAAAAAAAIM/iH_8ls7dup0/s320/rex+manning.jpg

http://splatterblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/women_internet.jpg

TripleSkeet
01-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Warner. Definitely.