Best Wilco song of all time?

[GreatAmericanZero]

what do u think is the best Wilco song of all time?

I don't think it gets any better than "heavy metal drummer"

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[west milly Tom]

"Handshake Drugs" is my favorite.

[keithy_19]

I personally love Wishful Thinking.

[paulisded]

"California Stars" - ok, I know that's technically a Woody Guthrie song that Wilco added music, but I can hear this song on an endless loop and never get tired of it.

[hammersavage]

Man, oh man, GAZ. Make a thread that goes right to my heartstrings. This is a tough one so I'll break it down by album.

A.M.- I'll go with Casino Queen. Not a huge fan of the album overall because they were still finding their sound as Wilco.

Being There- This is tough one. Disc one has Monday which I love. Disc two has Sunken Treasure. But I'll go with Forget the Flowers. It's pretty much their last country song and its just short but beautiful and catchy.

Summerteeth- How to fight loneliness and ELT might be their best written songs. But I'd probably go with I'm always in love. It's the best song on the album and musically really showed how their sound had changed since A.M.

YHF- This is murderers row here. An album of brilliance. I'll go with Jesus Etc. (even though my fav is Pot Kettle Black) because its the song that most people who don't know Wilco fall in love with immediately. It's such a gorgeous, easy melody and one of the songs on the album that kinda took on a different meaning after 9/11.

A Ghost is Born- Theologians is the easy choice for me on this album. The lyrics and the guitar riff is classic Wilco.

Sky Blue Sky- I've listened to Impossible Germany probably 1,000 times. The guitar is just absurdly good.


Now having said all that, I think if there was one song I would want someone to hear of theirs, it would be California Stars off Mermaid Avenue Vol. 1. I don't know if its disqualified because they didn't write the lyrics but it'd be my pick.

[donnie_darko]

my first wilco was a mixtape in 97 i think, and thanks to carrie outtamind(outtasite) will always be my fave..

[hammersavage]

Good choice paul

[TheMojoPin]

Don't make me pick between the songs on Summer Teeth. My favorites are all on there, but I couldn't possibly choose.

BRING BACK JAY BENNETT.

[paulisded]

Good choice paul

Thank you! I also enjoyed your analysis. I was going to write a similar overview, but...well, I'm too lazy right now. :)

[hammersavage]

Don't make me pick between the songs on Summer Teeth. My favorites are all on there, but I couldn't possibly choose.

BRING BACK JAY BENNETT.

YHF wouldn't have been as strong though. I do love the production on Summerteeth. Great documentary for anyone who hasn't seen it.

[TheMojoPin]

I want Bennett and O'Rourke working together for the forces of good. Those guys are both so amazing.

I sorta wish Jeff was back on the pills, too.

[yojimbo7248]

so hard to pick just one. YHF is my favorite album and all the songs are great.

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[JerseyRich]

I know this isn't necessarily a typical Wilco song...

But it's my fave.

How to fight loneliness

One of the sweetest piano solos I know of...so purdy.

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[lleeder]

I couldn't name one.

[epo]

At this very moment that song is "I'm the Man Who Loves You".

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I may change this response in 15 minutes.

[epo]

I couldn't name one.

Reason #718 that you should stick to polls.

[SinA]

Kingpin - especially live
Hate it Here - also especially good live.
or Ashes of American Flags and Via Chicago

[yojimbo7248]

At this very moment that song is "I'm the Man Who Loves You".

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I may change this response in 15 minutes.

I love this song live with the full horn section. They were so fun to watch this summer.

[JerseyRich]

At this very moment that song is "I'm the Man Who Loves You".

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I may change this response in 15 minutes.

Also my favorite part of IATTBYH...with the spinning camera shot in the mixing board room...

Funny stuff.

[cps]

Misunderstood . Thanks for the Wilco thread.

[JerseyRich]

Jeff solo...pre-Sky Blue Sky release of "The Thanks I Get"

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[cps]

I also like when they cover Big Star.

[CuntagiousChris]

I think im gonna go with "Hell is Chrome" fuckin love that song

[JerseyRich]

Why must we be forced to pick one?!

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[paulisded]

BTW, a Wilco concert DVD is coming out next month.

Here's a couple of interesting new clips.

Jeff Tweedy covering Radiohead, with a little help from Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr and a couple of Radiohead guys.

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Fleet Foxes help Wilco on Dylan's "I Shall Be Released"

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[paulisded]

BTW, my favorite Wilco concert (besides the hometown one where I was in the front row) was a Summerteeth show in Minneapolis where the rest of Golden Smog came onstage for a miniset.

[disgruntledsherpa]

For me its either "Poor Places" or "Hell is Chrome".

Actually, "She's a Jar" is the best. It's really hard to pick a best.

[epo]

"What Light" is winning right now.

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[Sue_Bender]

"Jesus, Etc".

[epo]

Dammit...."Walken" is a fucking great song:

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[paulisded]

My favorite Jeff Tweedy song, though, may be this Uncle Tupelo classic.

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[Stankfoot]

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[disgruntledsherpa]

My favorite Jeff Tweedy song, though, may be this Uncle Tupelo classic.

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"Gun" is fucking killer. Easily the best Uncle Tupelo song.

[TheMojoPin]

They do a kickass version of Gram Parson's "One Hundred Tears From Now":

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Miss country Tweedy.

[epo]

When seeing Wilco live, Spiders is unbelievably good.

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[paulisded]

Tweedy covering himself, as Wilco does Uncle Tupelo's "Long Cut".

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[hammersavage]

I also like when they cover Big Star.

They do a great version of Thirteen

[paulisded]

Thanks to this thread, I have the entire catalog of Wilco (including bootleg outtakes and live shows) on shuffle. My Last.FM stats are going to be way fucked up.

[epo]

Thanks to this thread, I have the entire catalog of Wilco (including bootleg outtakes and live shows) on shuffle. My Last.FM stats are going to be way fucked up.

Is it possible to get a non-Westerberg song in the top 5?

[paulisded]

Is it possible to get a non-Westerberg song in the top 5?

Doubtful. :)

[mikeyboy]

Jesus, etc.

No one asked, but my fave Uncle Tupelo track is New Madrid.

[meanmrbill]

Sorry, can't pick just one.....

1. Ashes of American Flags------For it's "I wonder why we listen to poets" line

2. What Light------For its reference to painting.

3. Dreamer in My Dreams------For the sheer fact that it makes me want to sing it out loud.

[Enabler]

The Late Greats
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[epo]

From their earlier country-ish days, a bit of "Casino Queen"....

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[loucough]

At the moment it's Via Chicago.

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I also can't get enough of Tweedy's "solo" performance of Laminated Cat

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[cps]

For me its either "Poor Places" or "Hell is Chrome".

Actually, "She's a Jar" is the best. It's really hard to pick a best.

"She's a Jar" is a real peach. I am changing my pick.

[paulisded]

Thanks for this thread - two hours of Wilco at loud volume has changed my mood for the evning.

[epo]

I also can't get enough of Tweedy's "solo" performance of Laminated Cat


Nice selections, Loucough. I love that intro to Laminated Cat....as I think many non-fans really miss out on how funny Tweedy can be.

[badorties]

Jesus, etc.

No one asked, but my fave Uncle Tupelo track is New Madrid.

great pick for both babds

"california stars" is a sentimental choice ... always reminds me of great times with old friends ... i made sure it was played during dinner at my wedding

my current favorite tweedy song is his cover of "be not so fearful" (i couldn't find it on youtube)

[disgruntledsherpa]

"She's a Jar" is a real peach. I am changing my pick.

First time I heard it I was stunned. That last fucking line and the abrupt ending is really unsettling the first time you listen to it if you're not expecting it. Incredible song.

[stinkbud]

Via Chicago always kills me.....I'm going to be humming that all night :thumbup:

[hammersavage]

I dreamed about killing you again last night
And it felt alright to me

[hammersavage]

I know some of you who posted here have from the responses but if you like Wilco, you HAVE to watch "Sunken Treasure: Live from the Pacific Northwest" the Jeff Tweedy acoustic doc. Its fantastic. It comes with an audio copy of all the songs so I've listened to it on a loop for the past year or so. Some of the songs he plays are better than the bands version. Here's a couple.

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And the song I fell in love with when I heard this version:

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[epo]

I've always found "Hummingbird" to be a beautiful song:

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[Sue_Bender]

They do a great version of Thirteen


Elliott Smith's version is fantastic as well.

Maybe better, Baby.

[Sue_Bender]

Jesus, etc.



That's what I said, Michael!

We're the same...


you and I!!

[ToiletCrusher]

for me it's one tough between these:

handshake drugs
I am trying to break your heart
airline to heaven


and a little diddy I love seeing live:

kingpin

[TheMojoPin]

Elliott Smith's version is fantastic as well.

Maybe better, Baby.

Evan Dando's version i great, too.

It's pretty hard to fuck up that song.

[KnoxHarrington]

Love "Spiders (Kidsmoke)" just as one of the truly great guitar raveups, a great piece of Krautrock beauty, but check this out:

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[ecobag2]

What's a Wilco?

[epo]

Currently I'm convinced that this wins:

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Although, that will probably change next week......

[hammersavage]

How to Fight Loneliness right now

[RhinoinMN]

Rename this thread "All Songs Wilco"

[epo]

Rename this thread "All Songs Wilco"

I would prefer "Songs by the great Wilco".

[Zipgun]

I would prefer "Songs by the great Wilco".


Seriously, how do you really just pick one? I've literally travelled thousands of miles, in total, just to see this band live. You don't do things like that for a band that has only a few great songs.

Gun to my head, I'd have to pick Theologians, mostly for the lyrical content and my personal attatchment to it. This is subject to change by the time I hit "Submit Reply".

[epo]

I had a weird day...and this has been in my mind:

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I'm guessing that's not healthy?

[TheMojoPin]

I had a weird day...and this has been in my mind:

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I'm guessing that's not healthy?

While that's not their best, that's my personal favorite. Power pop perfection.

[JerseyRich]

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[~Katja~]

not all time best song but one I really love

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[hammersavage]

Can't it just be July now

[JerseyRich]

Can't it just be July now


Poof! It's July.

Who is going to take my other ticket?

[hammersavage]

Who you calling a poof?

[~Katja~]

Poof! It's July.

Who is going to take my other ticket?

bastard! I offered ass and grass and you would not give it to me

[hammersavage]

I've probably listened to Jeff's 'Live in the Pacific Northwest' version of this 1,000 times. I love it.

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[JerseyRich]

bastard! I offered ass and grass and you would not give it to me


Maybe I'll take Lukas with me. I'm sure he wouldn't talk to me like that.

[paulisded]

bastard! I offered ass and grass and you would not give it to me

What I would give to have that offer! :D

[The End]

I imagine the best Wilco song would be the one written as they plummet to their death in a fiery plane crash

[JerseyRich]

I imagine the best Wilco song would be the one written as they plummet to their death in a fiery plane crash


Silly The End. Wilco takes the bus.

[The End]

Silly The End. Wilco takes the bus.

HAHA! I should have known, even too gay to fly

[JerseyRich]

HAHA! I should have known, even too gay to fly


Have you seen Flight Attendants? They are the gayest.

Flying is for fags.

[Zipgun]

Silly The End. Wilco takes the bus.

Not in the Outtasite video they don't.

In fact, we don't know if the plane perhaps crashed in a fiery wreck, thus disproving a previous statement.

[JerseyRich]

Not in the Outtasite video they don't.

In fact, we don't know if the plane perhaps crashed in a fiery wreck, thus disproving a previous statement.

Quiet, old man!

[Zipgun]

Quiet, old man!

Don't sass me just because I remember things called music videos.

[~Katja~]

Don't sass me just because I remember things called music videos.

Video Killed the Radio Star

[mikeyboy]

Gather around children and I'll regale you with tales of Martha Quinn, Alan Hunter, Mark Goodman and J.J. Jackson.

[epo]

Gather around children and I'll regale you with tales of Martha Quinn, Alan Hunter, Mark Goodman and J.J. Jackson.

Unless its Tabitha Soren, I don't wanna hear about it.

[TheMojoPin]

Kevin Seal fan 4 life.

[hammersavage]

Jesse Camp FTW

[TheMojoPin]

Way to go right for the obvious.

[hammersavage]

I liked Gtfoohyfsob better.

Like Kevin Seal gives you obscure cred?

[Zipgun]

Like Kevin Seal gives you obscure cred?

Seriously. I would have went with Dave Kendall if I was working that angle.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i've had "Monday" stuck in my head like a motherfucker

i like the part when he says "now i know i've made a mistaaaaaaaaaaaaake"

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[TheMojoPin]

Seriously. I would have went with Dave Kendall if I was working that angle.

Obscure, nothing. Kevin Seal was a schlub and, unlike fellow schlub Matt Pinield, actually funny. I picked him because he RULES.

[mikeyboy]

All I know is the wrong answer is Bill Bellamy.

[JerseyRich]

All I know is the wrong answer is Bill Bellamy.

No. The incorrect answer is Gary Dell'Abate.

[badorties]

the mighy Yo La Tengo will be schlepping to brooklyn as the opener for the keyspan show

[ToiletCrusher]

Kingpin - live !

[Zipgun]

the mighy Yo La Tengo will be schlepping to brooklyn as the opener for the keyspan show

Dammit!

Now I have to take a vacation day for that Monday so I can get there in time.


Stupid Connor Oberst should have been on that gig.

















(sorry Randi)

[JerseyRich]

(sorry Randi)


She doesn't read this board anymore. Don't worry.

[El Mudo]

"Someday Soon" off of Being There...that song always reminded me of a friend my sister had that I never really had the guts to ask out

My favourite part is the break down...

"You don't know me but I know you...YOU DON'T KNOW MEEE!

You have no idea...what I do...WHAT I DO

Make you mine...and see you swoon...WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Someday....Someday soon...."

[paulisded]

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/wilco-jeff-tweedy-jay-bennett-lawsuit-cook-county-yankee-hotel-foxtrot.html

Former Wilco member Jay Bennett sued lead singer Jeff Tweedy in Cook
County Circuit Court today, claiming Tweedy owes him money from the
band's 2002 documentary and royalties on songs written during
Bennett's seven years with the group.

Bennett was part of the Chicago-based band from 1994 to 2001, the
breach-of-contract suit states, and worked as a sound engineer and
performed instruments on the albums "Being There," "Summerteeth,"
"Mermaid Avenue," "Mermaid Avenue Vol. II" and "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot."

The suit argues that "as a recording musician in Wilco, Bennett is
entitled to compensation for his services rendered in the form of
continuing and perpetual artist royalty payments from" Tweedy.

It concedes that Bennett was paid during his years in the group, but
only in "infrequent partial payments" equivalent to 15 percent of the
band's income from sales and performances.

Bennett claims Tweedy did not compensate him for his appearance in "I
Am Trying to Break Your Heart," which documented the creative process
behind "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" in 2000 and captured a scene of Tweedy
and Bennett bickering over the mixing of "Heavy Metal Drummer."

The suit argues that Bennett was never paid for his role and that
Tweedy "never obtained the necessary releases for the use of Bennett's
performance in the film."

It was unclear if Tweedy was a producer on the project, as the suit claims.

Bennett left Wilco in August 2001.

"It was time for Jay to move on and have a bigger role in making his
own music," Tweedy said at the time. "Jay has been a huge part of the
last three records, but it just became more obvious to us that he
didn't have the same enthusiasm for being a part of the band. It took
a lot of bravery on both parts to make this happen, and we moved past
any hard feelings really fast."

The lawsuit asks for damages of at least $50,000.

[JerseyRich]

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/wilco-jeff-tweedy-jay-bennett-lawsuit-cook-county-yankee-hotel-foxtrot.html

Former Wilco member Jay Bennett sued lead singer Jeff Tweedy in Cook
County Circuit Court today, claiming Tweedy owes him money from the
band's 2002 documentary and royalties on songs written during
Bennett's seven years with the group.

Bennett was part of the Chicago-based band from 1994 to 2001, the
breach-of-contract suit states, and worked as a sound engineer and
performed instruments on the albums "Being There," "Summerteeth,"
"Mermaid Avenue," "Mermaid Avenue Vol. II" and "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot."

The suit argues that "as a recording musician in Wilco, Bennett is
entitled to compensation for his services rendered in the form of
continuing and perpetual artist royalty payments from" Tweedy.

It concedes that Bennett was paid during his years in the group, but
only in "infrequent partial payments" equivalent to 15 percent of the
band's income from sales and performances.

Bennett claims Tweedy did not compensate him for his appearance in "I
Am Trying to Break Your Heart," which documented the creative process
behind "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" in 2000 and captured a scene of Tweedy
and Bennett bickering over the mixing of "Heavy Metal Drummer."

The suit argues that Bennett was never paid for his role and that
Tweedy "never obtained the necessary releases for the use of Bennett's
performance in the film."

It was unclear if Tweedy was a producer on the project, as the suit claims.

Bennett left Wilco in August 2001.

"It was time for Jay to move on and have a bigger role in making his
own music," Tweedy said at the time. "Jay has been a huge part of the
last three records, but it just became more obvious to us that he
didn't have the same enthusiasm for being a part of the band. It took
a lot of bravery on both parts to make this happen, and we moved past
any hard feelings really fast."

The lawsuit asks for damages of at least $50,000.

Pay the man and be done with it.

[epo]

Pay the man and be done with it.

$50K? That's it?

Bennett must be out of money.

[~Katja~]

$50K? That's it?

.

that was my first thought

[TheMojoPin]

That's a shame. I guess that effectively puts the kibosh on him playig with Wilco again for the forseeable future. Too bad.

[JerseyRich]

That's a shame. I guess that effectively puts the kibosh on him playig with Wilco again for the forseeable future. Too bad.


ha! You still had hopes he was coming back?

I think they are way better off without him. Not only are they making great music, but they actually get along.

[TheMojoPin]

ha! You still had hopes he was coming back?

Given that he played on and was major part of my three favorite Wilco albums and that the albums since have been missing a little something to me, yes, I definitely hoped of the outside chance they'd clear the air and he'd guest with them down the line.

Plus I don't think it's fair to blame him for all the major band conflict since a lot of it was going on when Tweedy was still a pill-popping, boozing asshole.

[JerseyRich]

Given that he played on and was major part of my three favorite Wilco albums and that the albums since have been missing a little something to me, yes, I definitely hoped of the outside chance they'd clear the air and he'd guest with them down the line.

Plus I don't think it's fair to blame him for all the major band conflict since a lot of it was going on when Tweedy was still a pill-popping, boozing asshole.


yea, and Jay was completely sober.

I wasn't blaming Jay for anything. It was clear that it was a two way street there...But it was obvious that they didn't get along. And when bandmates don't get along(unless you are the Rolling Stones) then things have to change.

And that stuff with Jay is some of my favorite as well.

[boylestock]

The 50K is not what he is asking for..it is just the minimum of damages he is asking for to allow a certain court have jurisdiction

anyway....Forget Jay Bennett...Nels Cline is incredible...new DVD is great also...his playing on Impossible Germany an Handshake Drugs is amazing. Anyone that has seen them live can appreciate what Nels brings to the group

[JerseyRich]

The 50K is not what he is asking for..it is just the minimum of damages he is asking for to allow a certain court have jurisdiction

anyway....Forget Jay Bennett...Nels Cline is incredible...new DVD is great also...his playing on Impossible Germany an Handshake Drugs is amazing. Anyone that has seen them live can appreciate what Nels brings to the group

x10

[paulisded]

On a similar note, the new Son Volt has leaked and on first listen it's Farrar's best since Straightaways.

[JerseyRich]

On a similar note, the new Son Volt has leaked and on first listen it's Farrar's best since Straightaways.

Cool. Maybe I can go to another one of their shows and sleep through that as well.


Great music but probably the MOST dull band live.

[epo]

Cool. Maybe I can go to another one of their shows and sleep through that as well.

Great music but probably the MOST dull band live.

I've said this before, but god forbid that Jay Farrar play a song with a chorus.

[TheMojoPin]

yea, and Jay was completely sober.

I wasn't blaming Jay for anything. It was clear that it was a two way street there...But it was obvious that they didn't get along. And when bandmates don't get along(unless you are the Rolling Stones) then things have to change.

And that stuff with Jay is some of my favorite as well.

Look how many great bands have fed off of a competitive or confrontational relationship within the band to make amazing music. I think that kind of rivalry challenges the main creative forces to constantly do better. I still love Wilco's music, but to me it just sounds so much more safe and predictable and too downright mellow since Jay left and Jeff took total control. I don't "hear" the same emotions behind the musc that I did on those three albums.

[epo]

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[TheMojoPin]

The only sane, non-creepy thing you've ever posted.