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Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 07:36 AM
OK, so my buddy Grim Sanity bought me a bunch of stuff for my computer upgrade for Christmas. Thanks man if you're reading this.

Anyway, we seated the new motherboard, seated the new AMD processor, attached the cooler fan, put in the new power supply, put in the new video card, attached all the proper cables and pushed the power button. Yay, the motherboard info comes up, everything is going well.

Put the Vista DVD into the DVD drive and it comes up with a constant error. It's not recognizing the installer DVD for some reason, but it will install the Windows XP CD everytime.

Went through a million on line forums, called Asus, even went out and got a brand new dual layer DVD burner thinking my current DVD burner had JUST crapped out, but nothing.

Once XP was in, it recognized the Vista DVD and started to do the upgrade, but when it restarted itself and tried to continue installation, the same error came up and we had to reinstall XP again. Worked on this fucking comp for a total of like 8 hours, didn't leave my buddy's house until almost 2 am.

Has ANYONE run into a problem like this before? Before you ask, yes, we put the boot sequence to boot from CD-ROMs 1st. Most of the time we hit Tab on start up to force the boot from the DVD ROM it was in.

I mean the upgrades look awesome. Fucking nice video card, dual core AMD processor, Mobo with PCI-Express port for faster communication than my old PCI connection on my old board. I'm happy, but so frustrated and I feel defeated. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated, because I'm willing to try installs a few more times before I load all my programs on this again and just run with it.

biggestmexi
01-02-2009, 07:39 AM
if you contacted all those people and did all the stuff and still no answer. Stick with XP.

Unless there is a reason why you want Vista so bad with new window coming out.

MisterSmith
01-02-2009, 07:55 AM
I know this issue has popped up many times because it is all over the Microsoft boards. Here is a link to what I found (http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?query=dvd+read+error&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_set up&cat=en_US_9CA88DDB-D18D-FA0E-A366-6E527B0FBA67&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us).

This seemed to be the most promising post I found and seems similar enough to your issue that it might merit trying:

"Great news! I'm posting this in Vista on my Tablet. I finally got it to work.
Here is what I did. 1st I did a complete format and created 2 partitions. I
made the C drive big enough for Vista and the D drive just enough to install
XP. Booted up into XP and copied the install files to the D drive. I ran the
setup and did not do the upgrade option. I select drive C and the install
completed just fine that way. No more disk read error. Hopefully this will
help you as well."

Personally I would stick with XP - I haven't found enough in Vista to make me switch full time. My work computer is setup to dual-boot, but I haven't bothered booting into Vista for months.

instrument
01-02-2009, 08:07 AM
It almost sounds like the dvd drive isn't supported by vista, have tou tried the. Install cd and cd drive with another comp?

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 08:21 AM
It almost sounds like the dvd drive isn't supported by vista, have tou tried the. Install cd and cd drive with another comp?

I had 2 DVD drives on the board, the one I bought and the one I thought was broken but wasn't. The board showed them both, by name and model, in the BIOS.

The VISTA disc had just worked my my friends's comp and a laptop he set up for someone.

furie
01-02-2009, 09:28 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/furie1335/pics/logo_apple.jpg

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 09:34 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/furie1335/pics/logo_apple.jpg

That's OK. I like being able to build my own PC, replace the parts myself and having the entire world of software for it.

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 09:36 AM
I know this issue has popped up many times because it is all over the Microsoft boards. Here is a link to what I found (http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?query=dvd+read+error&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_set up&cat=en_US_9CA88DDB-D18D-FA0E-A366-6E527B0FBA67&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us).
Personally I would stick with XP - I haven't found enough in Vista to make me switch full time. My work computer is setup to dual-boot, but I haven't bothered booting into Vista for months.

I don't mind XP at all. To tell you the truth, my system will run smoother with the 2 gigs of RAM I have running on XP than Vista. I just felt so defeated. The motherboard advertises "Vista Ready" on the box, it should have all run smoothly. Just feel defeated after all the trying, retrying and searching we did.

biggestmexi
01-02-2009, 09:41 AM
The motherboard advertises "Vista Ready" on the box, it should have all run smoothly. Just feel defeated after all the trying, retrying and searching we did.

thats not the only things that needs to be vista ready.

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 10:34 AM
thats not the only things that needs to be vista ready.

Well it was a new AMD Dual Core processor, that's fine. The motheroboard recognized the hard drives and the DVD drives. The RAM is enough to install Vista. The new video card is a new Nvidia pci express x16. I have a 1000 watt power supply, plenty of juice.

Everything is more than capable to take Vista.

patsopinion
01-02-2009, 11:35 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/furie1335/pics/logo_apple.jpg

this is not an answer to his question
this is gloating bullshit!


why the fuck to people keep doing this
its not funny
its frustrating that you have given up and your suggestion is to do the same

furie
01-02-2009, 11:44 AM
this is not an answer to his question
this is gloating bullshit!


why the fuck to people keep doing this
its not funny
its frustrating that you have given up and your suggestion is to do the same

you must not have been paying attention for the past three years

and what do you mean given up? I use both pc and mac. I have been a mac user since '85. it's what i started out useing and what i'm comforatable with. Also i enjoy not having the hardware problems that pc users seem to have.

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 12:05 PM
Mac is fine, but they're expensive and there's little room for upgrade. Mac is what you bought. If it works for you, fine. I'm more about getting a system that can grow with my needs at the time.

Plus the trendy ad campaigns around Apple stuff makes me want to vomit, but I can ignore that and use their products. I have an iPod, even if it is ancient.

JustJon
01-02-2009, 07:30 PM
I had the same issue when I built my system. It's your dvd rom drive. You need to buy a vista compatible one.

Death Metal Moe
01-02-2009, 07:41 PM
I had the same issue when I built my system. It's your dvd rom drive. You need to buy a vista compatible one.

Well to be honest, I didn't check the box at Best Buy, but I bought a brand new Sony dual layer DVD-RW burner for like 70 fucking dollars just to hopefully get this completed. I was really hoping I was 100% in the clear. The mobo was Vista Ready, and the board recognized both DVD drives, I thought I should be in the green. It would not surprise me that you are right though John, Microsoft is just the company to do something like that.

To be honest, at this point, I'm already not willing to try a fresh Vista install. It took me like 8 hours to download all the World of Warcraft patches needed to bring me up to the new WotLK expansion over DSL, and I've started to put all my other stuff back in it.

I think I'm just rolling with XP for a few more years. It's a great operation system and I'm completey updated from Windows Update, so I think that's it.

Just feeling defeated is all.

Fez4PrezN2008
01-02-2009, 09:48 PM
I recently built a home build AMD based machine and loaded Vista 32bit after doing (legal) iso burn from a website, worked fine. Is your Vista disc brand new MS version? In other words where/how did you get it? Also, if it doesn't work out, don't feel too bad because I am not sure Vista is worth much hassle over XP. It is prettier but those MF'ing access dialog messages drive me nuts.

PapaBear
01-02-2009, 10:00 PM
I'm doing a slow build. It sounds like my mobo and cpu are the same or close to Moe's. I'm really debating the whole Vista/XP thing. I'd like to try Vista 64 so I can have the option of using the whole 8GB capacity of the mobo, but I'm still wary of Vista. From what I've been reading, I can still get ALMOST 4GB of ram with XP, so that might be the way to go. Then again, XP is actually more expensive than Vista. Damn.

Reynolds
01-02-2009, 10:39 PM
I'm doing a slow build. It sounds like my mobo and cpu are the same or close to Moe's. I'm really debating the whole Vista/XP thing. I'd like to try Vista 64 so I can have the option of using the whole 8GB capacity of the mobo, but I'm still wary of Vista. From what I've been reading, I can still get ALMOST 4GB of ram with XP, so that might be the way to go. Then again, XP is actually more expensive than Vista. Damn.

If you have the discs for the operating systems you are choosing between, you always have the 30 days to activate. I don't think Vista demands that you enter one during the install, but you have to do it in 30 days. Just in case you wanted to try things out first.

Reynolds
01-02-2009, 10:40 PM
I am not sure Vista is worth much hassle over XP. It is prettier but those MF'ing access dialog messages drive me nuts.

You can always disable them. They drive me nuts too, but I chose to keep them on, I like that it doesnt run new startup programs until your approval.

PapaBear
01-02-2009, 10:42 PM
If you have the discs for the operating systems you are choosing between, you always have the 30 days to activate. I don't think Vista demands that you enter one during the install, but you have to do it in 30 days. Just in case you wanted to try things out first.
I have XP discs, but not Vista. That's a good idea, though. I doubt I'll have much luck, but I'll look around to see if I can find someone with a Vista disc.

PapaBear
01-02-2009, 10:44 PM
You can always disable them. They drive me nuts too, but I chose to keep them on, I like that it doesnt run new startup programs until your approval.
That sounds like the same thing Winpatrol does. I put it on all of my builds.

Reynolds
01-02-2009, 10:44 PM
You could download a torrent image of Vista, and extract the image file to a flash drive, and set up your bios to boot from the flash drive.

Nothing illegal about it, since you're still using your own windows key.

celery
01-04-2009, 12:21 PM
Well to be honest, I didn't check the box at Best Buy, but I bought a brand new Sony dual layer DVD-RW burner for like 70 fucking dollars just to hopefully get this completed. I was really hoping I was 100% in the clear. The mobo was Vista Ready, and the board recognized both DVD drives, I thought I should be in the green. It would not surprise me that you are right though John, Microsoft is just the company to do something like that.

To be honest, at this point, I'm already not willing to try a fresh Vista install. It took me like 8 hours to download all the World of Warcraft patches needed to bring me up to the new WotLK expansion over DSL, and I've started to put all my other stuff back in it.

I think I'm just rolling with XP for a few more years. It's a great operation system and I'm completey updated from Windows Update, so I think that's it.

Just feeling defeated is all.

You're not really missing much with Vista in my opinion. I'm still running XP on both my machines. My new netbook even has it preloaded - XP isn't going anywhere soon.

I really hope Microsoft fixes some of the "Vista Ready" type issues with Windows 7. That's fucking ridiculous that a brand new DVD drive can't install Vista two years after it's been out.

MisterSmith
01-04-2009, 12:31 PM
You can always disable them. They drive me nuts too, but I chose to keep them on, I like that it doesnt run new startup programs until your approval.

The UAC is a good concept, but it was executed really poorly. If it could learn your preferences or you could setup exceptions, the UAC would be a nice tool. But since it is "dumb" and triggers on everything it ended up being a supreme annoyance.