The 2009 PGA Tour thread

[Snoogans]

I know there is at least ummmm, like, 5 golf fans at least on this board. So we need a thread. Mercedes Championship tees off January 8th to kick off the PGA season.

[lleeder]

I think Henk Alberts is gonna have a strong showing this year.

[Snoogans]

I think Henk Alberts is gonna have a strong showing this year.

He doesnt play on the PGA Tour. He plays on the European tour. And he eared 8,000 dollars last year.

[A.J.]

I might check out some of the Qatar Masters which will be held 21-25 JAN in Doha.

[lleeder]

Well then Taigen Tsumagari is my pick to really shock the world.

[Snoogans]

Tiger Woods is gonna win the US Open this year.

[lleeder]

Tiger Woods is gonna win the US Open this year.

Not if Artemio Murakami has anything to say about it.

[Snoogans]

how the fuck are you even finding these names?

[lleeder]

how the fuck are you even finding these names?

My cousin is good friends with Johan Edfors.

[Snoogans]

I hate you

[lleeder]

I hate you

You know, Peter Tomasulo said the same thing to me. He's really a douche in person.

[razorboy]

This will be the year of Anthony Kim.

[Snoogans]

whenever he comes back it'll be tiger tiger tiger and thats it. But watch out for Paddie at the Masters.

[lleeder]

This will be the year of Anthony Kim.

You might be right about that but you can't ignore the skills of Alastair Forsyth .

[lleeder]

Snoogans is such a frontrunner. I'd take Dean Wilson, Jeff Wilson, and Oliver Wilson over Tiger everyday of the week. He couldn't clean Derek Fathauer's cleats this year.

[mendyweiss]

I predict John Daly will have the loudest fart in the locker room

[TheGameHHH]

This will be the year of Anthony Kim.

easily my second favorite golfer behind Tiger. I'll be rooting for both of them this year.

[lleeder]

easily my second favorite golfer behind Tiger. I'll be rooting for both of them this year.

Don't forget Paul Goydos. He ain't too shabby either.

[Snoogans]

Don't forget Paul Goydos. He ain't too shabby either.

Goydos has actually won a PGA event.

[lleeder]

Goydos has actually won a PGA event.

I know he talks about it all the time. I think its only to make Jason Allred cry.

[Snoogans]

as nonsensical as this has been all day its been KILLIN me

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I'm gonna keep my eyes on the PGA Mini Golf tour

[Snoogans]

I'm gonna keep my eyes on the PGA Mini Golf tour

boooooo

[King Hippos Bandaid]

boooooo

exactly the response I wanted

you seemed to be laughing at funny stuff all day




more like the PGA Bore



I have tons of them that will make you crigne

[lleeder]

I wish Jeff Sluman was back there on the regular tour. He'd give Tiger a run for the money.

[cougarjake13]

http://golf.fantasysports.yahoo.com/golf

group id 1101
password hey
group name caddyshack gophernutz



first week of play starts in 2 weeks

[EliSnow]

Tiger to return for the Accenture tournament. (http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1880810,00.html)

[Snoogans]

Im surprised he came back for Match Play. He must feel great cause he could end up basically playing 6 rounds this week if he makes the final

[EliSnow]

Im surprised he came back for Match Play. He must feel great cause he could end up basically playing 6 rounds this week if he makes the final

I was initially suprised as well, but he's does really well with Match Play usually right? Maybe even better than regular?

[Snoogans]

I was initially suprised as well, but he's does really well with Match Play usually right? Maybe even better than regular?

Its hard to do better than regular when you win 75% of your tournies, but yes he is a very good match play player. But if you make the final, you have already played 4 rounds and the final is 36 holes. Im thinkin less of his success in the tourney and more about how he chose the longest walk and amount of golf to come back on.

Alot of people think he chose this to come back because its the first BIG tourney of the year for World Rankings and Im sure he is gettin close to having those guys catch him. So he probably wants to get the points and keep his number 1

[EliSnow]

Its hard to do better than regular when you win 75% of your tournies, but yes he is a very good match play player. But if you make the final, you have already played 4 rounds and the final is 36 holes. Im thinkin less of his success in the tourney and more about how he chose the longest walk and amount of golf to come back on.

Alot of people think he chose this to come back because its the first BIG tourney of the year for World Rankings and Im sure he is gettin close to having those guys catch him. So he probably wants to get the points and keep his number 1

i agree. I was just thinking that, if you were playing against him, he would get in your head moreso in match play than in regular play if you weren't in his group.

[Snoogans]

i agree. I was just thinking that, if you were playing against him, he would get in your head moreso in match play than in regular play if you weren't in his group.

Match play is a whole different thing though. He gets in your head, you put up a 10 on that hole, you lose 1 hole. Its not a big deal. He gets in your head and you put up that 10 on a stroke play hole, you are chasing back those strokes all tourney.


And try having a lead in a tourney, checkin the board, and seeing Tiger just moved into second place behind you. Its all a mind fuck. Match play probably helps the other guys relax cause they are either just playin tiger or not playing him at all. In a tourney, they are always playin him no matter what

[EliSnow]

Match play is a whole different thing though. He gets in your head, you put up a 10 on that hole, you lose 1 hole. Its not a big deal. He gets in your head and you put up that 10 on a stroke play hole, you are chasing back those strokes all tourney.


And try having a lead in a tourney, checkin the board, and seeing Tiger just moved into second place behind you. Its all a mind fuck. Match play probably helps the other guys relax cause they are either just playin tiger or not playing him at all. In a tourney, they are always playin him no matter what

Good points.

[Freitag]

Where in AZ is this tourney? Tucson, Phoenix, or Flagstaff?

EDIT: Never mind, it's Tucson. I'm wondering if my Dad might go.

[TigerWoods]

To be honest, I wasn't gonna come back til Doral. But after the second kid, Elin wont shut the fuck up. Nag Nag Nag Nag Nag, I almost had Steve Williams eat her face. I'm fuckin Tiger Woods, I don't have to listen to this bitch complain. Ohhhhh it's so hard to carry a child for 9 months. How bout you try carrying around my sack of 1 billion dollars for a few years. See if I fuckin feel bad for you bitch.


I can't wait to get back out there and rip one 350+ and make Phil Mickelson shit hisself

[TigerWoods]

Where in AZ is this tourney? Tucson, Phoenix, or Flagstaff?

Just outside Tucson

[EliSnow]

To be honest, I wasn't gonna come back til Doral. But after the second kid, Elin wont shut the fuck up. Nag Nag Nag Nag Nag, I almost had Steve Williams eat her face. I'm fuckin Tiger Woods, I don't have to listen to this bitch complain. Ohhhhh it's so hard to carry a child for 9 months. How bout you try carrying around my sack of 1 billion dollars for a few years. See if I fuckin feel bad for you bitch.


I can't wait to get back out there and rip one 350+ and make Phil Mickelson shit hisself

I think your first drive is going to slice right and hit a bystander. Make sure you have two watches with you.

[Snoogans]

I think your first drive is going to slice right and hit a bystander. Make sure you have two watches with you.

I dont think Tiger Woods would be back if he was still afraid to transfer his weight to his front leg. And if he does transfer but is tentative, he will hook it. I predict his first tee shot is right down the middle cause he relaxes on it and hits it like 90%.

I think if he had taken just a little off his drive, he would be murdering everyone and shooting occasional 59's

[Snoogans]

just under 90 minutes bitches.

[Snoogans]

Five Minutes Bitches

[Snoogans]

Tiger Woods just stepped on the first tee.

[Snoogans]

and sticks his first tee shot, a 3 wood, up the right side of the fairway. Swing looks alot smoother, alot more controlled off the tee

[Snoogans]

so Tiger goes 1 up after 1. Perfect tee shot was followed by a nice draw from 166 that he wasnt really happy with and stopped about 5 feet from the hole

[Snoogans]

and now he is like 6 feet left for eagle on the second, just a PERFECT iron.


Im tellin you if he can just find the fairway more he will be better

[EliSnow]

and sticks his first tee shot, a 3 wood, up the right side of the fairway. Swing looks alot smoother, alot more controlled off the tee

So he didn't hit anyone? Darnit. There's goes my prediction.

What channel is it on?

[Snoogans]

golf channel. He just caught a bunker on the par 3 third but the guy he is playin is off also, 2 up thru 2 and so far 2 drives, one driver one 3 wood, both perfect fairway

[Snoogans]

Bitch Tits was 3 up with 4 to play, he is now 1 up with 2 to play. Details to follow

[drjoek]

Fuck Tiger Woods:thumbdown:

[Snoogans]

Tiger is about to go 3 up thru 4

More importantly, Angel Cabrera just made birdie on 17. Phil was 3 up 4 to play its now ALL SQUARE goin to 18

[TheGameHHH]

Tiger is 4 up with 5 to play after just sinking a nice little eagle just off the first cut, man i love this guy!

[Snoogans]

5 minutes to tee off of round 2, bitches

[Snoogans]

Tiger Tiger Tiger Woods 1 up thru 2

[epo]

Tiger Tiger Tiger Woods 1 up thru 2

Tim Clark bitch.

[Snoogans]

they actually both kinda played like shit. From what Ive watched, not many guys arent

[epo]

they actually both kinda played like shit. From what Ive watched, not many guys arent

Behold the red-shirted master!

http://img.timeinc.net/golf/i/tours/2007/05/may29_clarkbackspin_299x299.jpg

[Snoogans]

he was in blue today

[bigredd]

I'm actually one the few people tracking the Mayakoba Classic this weekend but only cause of fantasy golf. Bo Van Pelt freaked out for eight birdies and only 1 bogey. Nice round.

[Snoogans]

I'm actually one the few people tracking the Mayakoba ZClassic this weekend but only cause of fantasy golf. Bo Van Pelt freaked out for eight birdies and only 1 bogey. Nice round.

fuck him



i didnt have him in this week

[bigredd]

fuck him



i didnt have him in this week

I didn't either...I'm just sayin. Iad a good lil group that landed my -11 for the day. Brian Gay, Stephen Marino, Vaugh Taylor and Matt Jones.

[cougarjake13]

i was thinking of picking him up this week but went with someone else

[bigredd]

Kevin Na freaked out today and a guy I have a steak dinner bet got three strokes on me today. Sumbitch.

[Snoogans]

Tiger will be in the CA Championship next week. Can't wait for that

[Kevin]

Tiger will be in the CA Championship next week. Can't wait for that



Now that he is off the Roids.. 250+ YARDS EVERY TIME BITCH.

[Snoogans]

Now that he is off the Roids.. 250+ YARDS EVERY TIME BITCH.

yea as evidenced by the 335 yard 3 wood he hit on way to eagleing number 2 in his first round back

[Kevin]

yea as evidenced by the 335 yard 3 wood he hit on way to eagleing number 2 in his first round back

Well, its obviously not out of his system totally yet...

[Snoogans]

Tiger's swing looks great. Smoother and much more accurate off the tees. His irons have been ok, a little off and he has just missed a couple puts. He could be like -8 right now aside from the putts and his one tee into the water. I think he is gonna win the Masters, but probably not before.

Bitch Tits is in the lead alone at the moment. I cant wait to see how he fucks it up.

Otherwise its actually been pretty sick. It almost seems like Tiger being back fired guys up finally instead of making them play scared. Guys are shootin scores all over

[Snoogans]

one week. CAN WE JUST GO ONE WEEK, PLEASE, WITHOUT HAVING TO HEAR JOHNNY MILLER MENTION OAKMONT AND HIS FUCKIN 63

[TheGameHHH]

I'm starting to get really excited for The Masters. It's far and away my favorite tournament, only like 3 weeks away.

[TigerWoods]

What the fuck you bitches sayin now? Everyone talkin is Tiger Woods done? I just showed that sissy ass bitch Sean O'Hair how fuckin done I am.

You better be real excited for the fuckin Masters now Game. Snoogans and spoon tell me you are a front runnin bitch. Thats good for you, cause I'm the best ever at anything.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to give some people my new jacket size. Green looks good on me.




I'm comin for yo ass, Jack

[Snoogans]

70-66-65-69--270

Thats the line from the 97 Masters where Tiger Woods won by 12. You know why no one will win by 12 again? CAUSE THEY CHANGED THE COURSE EPO. Because of that weekend, they completely redid the course and made it longer. They didnt Jack proof courses. They Tiger proof them

[TheGameHHH]

What the fuck you bitches sayin now? Everyone talkin is Tiger Woods done? I just showed that sissy ass bitch Sean O'Hair how fuckin done I am.

You better be real excited for the fuckin Masters now Game. Snoogans and spoon tell me you are a front runnin bitch. Thats good for you, cause I'm the best ever at anything.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to give some people my new jacket size. Green looks good on me.




I'm comin for yo ass, Jack

thats why youre my favorite golfer Tiger, cause youre the best!

[cougarjake13]

tiger kicks ass, the only reason why i'll watch golf


i cant believe he finds time to post on our board

[Snoogans]

tiger kicks ass, the only reason why i'll watch golf


i cant believe he finds time to post on our board

Yea I met him last year during the barclay's and found out he was a RF fan. So I told him about the board and he signed up. Rteally cool guy, that Tiger Woods. Hates Phil Mickelson, though

[cougarjake13]

Yea I met him last year during the barclay's and found out he was a RF fan. So I told him about the board and he signed up. Rteally cool guy, that Tiger Woods. Hates Phil Mickelson, though

who doesnt ??

i hate that fat bastard

[Snoogans]

who doesnt ??

i hate that fat bastard

he is Hippos favorite golfer. Explains all the meltdowns

[Snoogans]

What a shock.

The current leader today is Tiger Woods at -6. if he pars number 9 (started on 10), he will play the front, his final 9, in -5

[Snoogans]

instead he made birdie. HOLY FUCK. -7 on the day, and played his back nine in fuckin 30

[TheGameHHH]

I just learned that Ver Plank has hit the 17th green 23 consecutive times at the Players. I think if I was given 23 shots at that green i might hit it once. thats fucking impressive.

[bigredd]

I just learned that Ver Plank has hit the 17th green 23 consecutive times at the Players. I think if I was given 23 shots at that green i might hit it once. thats fucking impressive.

No shit. Tomorrow should be interesting with Cejka leading by 5 playing with Tiger. Does he shit the bed? My money's on yes, he wilts like a flower. There's a few guys at -6 that could make a run though. Goosen and Poulter both have majors under their belts if I'm not mistaken. My ass will be hard to get off the couch tomorrow.

[cougarjake13]

I just learned that Ver Plank has hit the 17th green 23 consecutive times at the Players. I think if I was given 23 shots at that green i might hit it once. thats fucking impressive.



i just learned that theres someone else on the tour besides tiger and phil

[TheGameHHH]

i just learned that theres someone else on the tour besides tiger and phil

oh man, youd be in total shock.....theres at least like, 7 other guys

[cougarjake13]

oh man, youd be in total shock.....theres at least like, 7 other guys

no fuckin way ??


do they show them on tv ??

[Snoogans]

no fuckin way ??


do they show them on tv ??

yes. and some of them are just as, if not MORE entertaining. Like how Angel Cabrera shoots a 65 with 9 birdies, and eagle and like 3 bogeys

[cougarjake13]

yes. and some of them are just as, if not MORE entertaining. Like how Angel Cabrera shoots a 65 with 9 birdies, and eagle and like 3 bogeys



he doesnt play shortstop anymore ??

[Snoogans]

he doesnt play shortstop anymore ??

these are the kinda posts that make Stewark Cink twitter

[Snoogans]

Somehow Tiger ended up in the final group today. 5 back of Alex Cejka.....exactly. LETS GO TIGER

[TheGameHHH]

It looks like Crane is feelin it today, he might win this thing

[bigredd]

It looks like Crane is feelin it today, he might win this thing

Yes he is. Poulter could make a lil run too if he isn't careful. Cejka in the water. He won't finish this thing.

[Snoogans]

Stenson has a shot too. He plays well here. And somehow Tiger really does have a shot here

[TheGameHHH]

Cejka just pooped himself

[TheGameHHH]

Stenson has a shot too. He plays well here. And somehow Tiger really does have a shot here

he'll be 4 back with 14 to play, totally doabe for Tiger

[bigredd]

Tiger and Cejkahad both better ge their shit together if they want a look at it. I think Ben Crane's the man today.

[Snoogans]

Look at big Snoogs makin the call on Henrik Stenson.

[TheGameHHH]

"big Snoogs"?!?! seriously?

[Snoogans]

"big Snoogs"?!?! seriously?

its gonna be when hippos loses his fantasy golf bet with me and has to pay for an entire night of drinking

[hammersavage]

I guess you can't be surprised when Tiger does something like this. But holy shit, what an incredible comeback. Shot a 65, unreal

[cougarjake13]

and it was the only reason why i was watching golf today

[CruelCircus]

Hey golf fans,

I have extra passes for US Open practice rounds at Bethpage if anyone wants to go.
There's 4 for Monday, and 2 for Tuesday.

PM me if you're interested.

Is anyone else going next week?

[NickyL0885]

Hey golf fans,

I have extra passes for US Open practice rounds at Bethpage if anyone wants to go.
There's 4 for Monday, and 2 for Tuesday.

PM me if you're interested.

Is anyone else going next week?

I have something similar. 2 tix for Tuesday Practice day. They are for the Trophy Area/Lounge. I was going to go, but can't find anyone to go with. Figure I try to get something for them. I know its last minute. So, I guess let me know.

[hammersavage]

What score wins the Open this weekend? The course is even longer than last time it was at Bethpage and Tiger was the only one under par that time.

[Snoogans]

What score wins the Open this weekend? The course is even longer than last time it was at Bethpage and Tiger was the only one under par that time.

It also didnt have near as much rain and graduated rough like it does this year.

I'll guess -4, and there are 4-6 guys under par.

[TheGameHHH]

I say -7

[Snoogans]

I wouldnt go that far. The rain will also make the course play longer, and at 7450 yards, thats not gonna be good for alot of guys. Most of them, actually

[TheGameHHH]

im sure itll be tough to reach, but i think somebody might go -2 a day or so.

[Snoogans]

im sure itll be tough to reach, but i think somebody might go -2 a day or so.

and how would that get someone 7 under?

[TheGameHHH]

and how would that get someone 7 under?

going -2 each day for 4 days would make you -8 after the fourth round. am i using wrong math here? i mean this for one person, whomever the winner may be. not like one guy goes -2 on thrusday and some other guy goes -2 on friday.

[Snoogans]

going -2 each day for 4 days would make you -8 after the fourth round. am i using wrong math here? i mean this for one person, whomever the winner may be. not like one guy goes -2 on thrusday and some other guy goes -2 on friday.

if someone goes -2 a "day or so", then that means they didnt go -2 for 4 days. Am I missing something?

[TheGameHHH]

if someone goes -2 a "day or so", then that means they didnt go -2 for 4 days. Am I missing something?

because i chose -7 you cant go -2 each day. that would make the winner at -8. the average round would come close to -2 a day.

[TigerWoods]

BULLSHIT. Im fuckin goin 10 under at least. Mickelson could play 8 rounds and wont have a chance at fuckin touchin me. I AM TIGER FUCKIN WOODS. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

[Snoogans]

because i chose -7 you cant go -2 each day. that would make the winner at -8. the average round would come close to -2 a day.

ok. So a day or so means 3 days to you. And that means they also go -1 the other round. Thats alot to ask to shoot 4 rounds under par in an open for ANYONE. Especially at a place that 1 guy broke par at last time, when it played SHORTER

[TheGameHHH]

ok. So a day or so means 3 days to you. And that means they also go -1 the other round. Thats alot to ask to shoot 4 rounds under par in an open for ANYONE. Especially at a place that 1 guy broke par at last time, when it played SHORTER

yea, its a lot to ask. thats why its a guess. over a four round tourney my prediction is less then a shot a day off yours.

[Snoogans]

yea, its a lot to ask. thats why its a guess. over a four round tourney my prediction is less then a shot a day off yours.

yea but this isnt the Deutsche bank championship where the winner is -22 and less than 1 shot a day is not much.

Look at it more like the US Open, and you are almost more than DOUBLE what i predicted under par. For this week, thats a TON

[Evolved]

I can't see anybody shooting under par in all four rounds.
-5 is the average winning score in this decade.

[Snoogans]

I can't see anybody shooting under par in all four rounds.
-5 is the average winning score in this decade.

and its slightly skewed because woods was -12 at pebble

[hammersavage]

Pretty good article on cbssportsline.com about the '02 Open and how brutal the New York crowd was that year. And the context with 9/11, the rooting for Phil and the public course aspect, good stuff. read it here (http://www.cbssports.com/golf/story/11864894)

[Snoogans]

Pretty good article on cbssportsline.com about the '02 Open and how brutal the New York crowd was that year. And the context with 9/11, the rooting for Phil and the public course aspect, good stuff. read it here (http://www.cbssports.com/golf/story/11864894)

they had something on ESPN's golf page about this. Most of the golfers seem to love it, sans the few the people here hate. Sergio is tryin to kiss everyone's ass this week so they are nicer too him

[hammersavage]

Sergio is tryin to kiss everyone's ass this week so they are nicer too him

That better not fucking happen, no way it will. I think Phil will have the crowd behind him, like the old days a little bit, with what he's had to deal with personally.


I think your score prediction is accurate though. Any dark horses?

[Snoogans]

Craig Stadler played a practice round that Monday and had a local fan outright laugh at him when he failed to clear a fairway bunker with a driver. "Here, you try it," Stadler said.

The fan ducked under the ropes, grabbed Stadler's stick, whaled away without a warm-up and proudly pounded the ball over the bunker

fuckin hilarious. Thats fuckin Tin Cup shit.

Dark horses are tough this week. Usually you would go with accurate guys at the open but most of them, especially with the rain, wont be near long enough.

If you have to watch for 2 guys who I guess would be dark horses after the past couple years, watch goose and Els. They have both looked more solid the last few weeks and both have the skills to get it done.

[lleeder]

Its odd that the best headline for a Tiger win they could never use in this PC world. Bethpage Black practically writes itself.

[Evolved]

fuckin hilarious. Thats fuckin Tin Cup shit.

Dark horses are tough this week. Usually you would go with accurate guys at the open but most of them, especially with the rain, wont be near long enough.

If you have to watch for 2 guys who I guess would be dark horses after the past couple years, watch goose and Els. They have both looked more solid the last few weeks and both have the skills to get it done.

I'd be surprised if Goosen or Els are in contention. I'm pulling for Phil, Garcia and Kim but the last two have not been playing well this year.

[Snoogans]

I'd be surprised if Goosen or Els are in contention. I'm pulling for Phil, Garcia and Kim but the last two have not been playing well this year.

thats why they are dark horses

[Evolved]

thats why they are dark horses

Na, a dark horse is someone lurking on the out side. I'd say those two have zero chance.

[Snoogans]

Na, a dark horse is someone lurking on the out side. I'd say those two have zero chance.

Goose has won this year. he is playin pretty damn well. Els you are probably more right on

[CruelCircus]

It also didnt have near as much rain and graduated rough like it does this year.

I was out on the course today and I can tell you first hand that the setup is going to be a PROBLEM for these guys. The rough is simply out of hand, and you could cartwheel across the fairways. Plus, the ground is already saturated- wet and even muddy in places. They're not getting a lot of roll out there, even on drives.

If today was any indication, the crowd will be even more behind Phil this year. They already all love him, and now the pink t-shirts are out in force. The man earns it though; he signed autographs for everyone (including me!) in front of a literal mob scene for at least a half an hour after he finished his round. Never seen anything like it except for Cal Ripken. Els teed off on the next hole over to almost no fanfare.

And rumors on Kim are that he's partying and slacking on his practice, and that's why he's playing poorly this year.

[Snoogans]

These conditions are fuckin BRUTAL right now. These few guys who are under par are really tearin it up

[Snoogans]

its about time they blew the fuckin horn. Really unfair to the guys on the course right now that they had to play so long in this shit

[Evolved]

And rumors on Kim are that he's partying and slacking on his practice, and that's why he's playing poorly this year.

I thought Kim had been sober for a while now.

[CruelCircus]

I thought Kim had been sober for a while now.

Maybe. You can be sober and still stay out all night and skip practice.

[Snoogans]

Im not liking this as much. Greens are way too soft. Guys are stoppin balls dead from 175 and you shouldnt be able to do that in the Open. Assuming it doesn't rain anymore, they guys playing right now have a huge advantage. Soft greens, no rain, and suprisingly dry for how its been.


I WANT ROCK HARD GREENS

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Im not liking this as much. Greens are way too soft. Guys are stoppin balls dead from 175 and you shouldnt be able to do that in the Open. Assuming it doesn't rain anymore, they guys playing right now have a huge advantage. Soft greens, no rain, and suprisingly dry for how its been.


I WANT ROCK HARD GREENS


you like everything rock hard don't you Goldilocks

[Snoogans]

you like everything rock hard don't you Goldilocks

What did you wife yell at you for being too much of a pussy the last 2 years, so now you have to fight back?

Or are you just THAT bitter that im gonna drink 1000 bucks in patron on your dime?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

What did you wife yell at you for being too much of a pussy the last 2 years, so now you have to fight back?

Or are you just THAT bitter that im gonna drink 1000 bucks in patron on your dime?


you said rock hard and expected nothing, I dont need any reason to abuse your homo post

[Snoogans]

you said rock hard and expected nothing, I dont need any reason to abuse your homo post

i said rock hard and expected nothing cause mentally im old enough to have a discussion about golf without thinkin about cock like some other people, i guess

[King Hippos Bandaid]

i said rock hard and expected nothing cause I guess mentally im old enough to have a discussion about golf without thinkin about cock like some other people, i guess



I like mature snoogans, does he smoke a pipe

[Snoogans]

I like mature snoogans, does he smoke a pipe

bastard.

At least someone gets it, anyway.


And I guess you could call it a pipe. Bowl usually its called.

[Snoogans]

now that the rain is stopped and the sun is out a bit, but the course is still soft, guys are firin at it. And it more get much more firm before the week is done, being tomorrow will be like yesterday. Unless guys have to play IN the rain, this could be a super low scoring US Open


BOO

[hammersavage]

Weir is certainly taking advantage of the conditions. 31 front 9.

[Snoogans]

Weir is certainly taking advantage of the conditions. 31 front 9.

basically they are sayin now they dont expect to get anything much in tomorrow. They will be lucky to even start play. Looks like round 2 wont even be done til Sunday

[KnoxHarrington]

Nice job moderating the posts on your US Open blog, ESPN:

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From http://deadspin.com/5297026/espn-could-really-use-some-comment-ninjas

[Snoogans]

for anyone who remembers:

You guys asked me awhile back why Harrington was assessed a penalty stroke because the wind blew his ball on the green after he had addressed it and stepped back. I just came across this:

Your ball finishes on the green, 15 feet away from the hole. The course is muddy from last night's rain, and so is your ball. You lift and clean, then replace it. As you study your putt, the ball, which is lying on a slope, rolls about five feet closer to the hole.

Do you replace the ball to its original position or play it from where it stopped rolling?

a. Replace the ball to its original position and take a penalty stroke
b. Play the ball from where it stopped rolling, no penalty
c. Play the ball from where it stopped rolling and take a penalty stroke
d. Take a penalty, then re-hit your approach

(B) Play the ball from where it stopped rolling, no penalty

If the ball remained at rest for a few seconds, you play it from where it ended up after rolling closer to the hole. Once it is at rest, the ball is in play. Neither gravity nor wind-the forces that might have moved the ball in this situation-are considered outside agencies, so the ball is not replaced. If you are lucky enough to have the ball roll into the hole, you are considered to have holed out with your previous stroke. However, if the ball didn't start moving until after you addressed it, you are considered to have caused it to move, are penalized one stroke, and must replace the ball.

In the original situation, you must replace the ball if it was not at rest before it started rolling down the slope. Decision 20-3d/1 includes the "few seconds" requirement in order to be certain the ball was not moving. If you are unable to put the ball back on the green so that it stays at rest, you place it at the nearest spot not nearer the hole where it can be placed at rest.

[Evolved]

Nice to see Duval doing well. I wonder if I can get a ticket for monday.

[Snoogans]

Nice to see Duval doing well. I wonder if I can get a ticket for monday.

im sure you could just go there and pa yand they will let you in

[hammersavage]

Wow, Duval played really well. Like its 2000 or something. Hope his vertigo doesn't catch up with him.

[Snoogans]

Wow, Duval played really well. Like its 2000 or something. Hope his vertigo doesn't catch up with him.

he still has the same giant 98 Oakleys

[Snoogans]

13 guys under par right now. Too many for the open but the course is so soft right now these guys almost cant miss.
Hopefully we get at least one day of rocket putts

[KnoxHarrington]

This is why ESPN should have the US Open taken away from them: I turned on the replay, to hear the horror of fat douche Chris Berman handing it off to total asshat Rick Reilly.

Just horrible.

[Snoogans]

This is why ESPN should have the US Open taken away from them: I turned on the replay, to hear the horror of fat douche Chris Berman handing it off to total asshat Rick Reilly.

Just horrible.

You shoulda dealt with it yesterday when boomer and riley did 30 minutes together to fill during the rain delay

[TheGameHHH]

I was so stupid to suggest -7 might win this, now I know for sure nobody is even gonna get close to that. Especially for an Open. Especially.

[Evolved]

I was so stupid to suggest -7 might win this, now I know for sure nobody is even gonna get close to that. Especially for an Open. Especially.

The weather helped out a lot. Without the rain the scores would be no where near this low.

[TheGameHHH]

The weather helped out a lot. Without the rain the scores would be no where near this low.

yea, that rain came out of nowhere. i totally thought it was going to be a crystal clear, dry Open weekend. i screwed up on that too.

[Snoogans]

yea, that rain came out of nowhere. i totally thought it was going to be a crystal clear, dry Open weekend. i screwed up on that too.

it isnt the weather. Its how the USGA handled it, making guys start thursday when they shouldnt have. Those guys are at a huge disadvantage and thats why most of them are around par.

Its also because, since the course was wet, the USGA shortened the course by about 3-500 yards for each round. Had they not done that, you would still be way off. And no one knew they were gonna do that til the tourney started

[TheGameHHH]

it isnt the weather. Its how the USGA handled it, making guys start thursday when they shouldnt have. Those guys are at a huge disadvantage and thats why most of them are around par.

Its also because, since the course was wet, the USGA shortened the course by about 3-500 yards for each round. Had they not done that, you would still be way off. And no one knew they were gonna do that til the tourney started

im just busting chops. and thats why i love you and spoon. you guys can never just say, 'i was wrong'. theres always an excuse as to why things dont work out the way you thought they would. though he usually likes to just blame refs and injuries, im glad you went with something more original.

[Snoogans]

im just busting chops. and thats why i love you and spoon. you guys can never just say, 'i was wrong'. theres always an excuse as to why things dont work out the way you thought they would. though he usually likes to just blame refs and injuries, im glad you went with something more original.

its not an excuse, but when a course goes from 7460 yards to around 7000 thats a big difference. And only 3 guys are better than -3 right now. I dont think the winner will be -7 anyway.

I love how you want someone to say they are wrong when the tourney is barely halfway done.


But this is also NOT the course it was supposed to be. Not even close.

[EliSnow]

This sucks. It's such a great course, and to have this happen really kills it.

[drjoek]

Phil Mickelson really is a very sympathetic figure.

How can you not like the guy?

[Snoogans]

I have a feeling either the 2015 Open will be back to Bethpage to try to get it better, or it will NEVER be back. One of the 2.


I say 2015 cause they Opens are all awarded thru 2014

[EliSnow]

Phil Mickelson really is a very sympathetic figure.

How can you not like the guy?

Apparently, a lot of guys on Tour can give you a bunch of reasons.

[EliSnow]

I have a feeling either the 2015 Open will be back to Bethpage to try to get it better, or it will NEVER be back. One of the 2.


I say 2015 cause they Opens are all awarded thru 2014
I love the warning sign it has about it being an " extremely difficult" course. Guess I will never play it.

[Evolved]

I have a feeling either the 2015 Open will be back to Bethpage to try to get it better, or it will NEVER be back. One of the 2.


I say 2015 cause they Opens are all awarded thru 2014

Chambers Bay in 2015 and Oakmont in 2016.

[Snoogans]

Chambers Bay in 2015 and Oakmont in 2016.

oh shit i only heard the announcement through pinehurst the other day. Damn. 2017 then.

2016 PGA championship is at Baltisrol

[Snoogans]

I love the warning sign it has about it being an " extremely difficult" course. Guess I will never play it.

if you can get a time, play it. Shortest tees are around 6400 yards i think. Mens tees i mean

[EliSnow]

if you can get a time, play it. Shortest tees are around 6400 yards i think. Mens tees i mean

Have you played it? If so, what did you think of it.

[Snoogans]

Have you played it? If so, what did you think of it.

i have not played on it, just in various games. But all courses have a bunch of tees

[TheGameHHH]

its not an excuse, but when a course goes from 7460 yards to around 7000 thats a big difference. And only 3 guys are better than -3 right now. I dont think the winner will be -7 anyway.

I love how you want someone to say they are wrong when the tourney is barely halfway done.


But this is also NOT the course it was supposed to be. Not even close.

again, just busting balls

[disneyspy]

i cant believe how shitty the greens look with all the rain they've had on LI, WTF,you'd think a US OPEN would be held at a better course

[disneyspy]

was that opie high 5n everybody in the bleachers?

[EliSnow]

Damn. Work has blocked both nbcsports.com and the Open website. I can't even get the live leaderboard.

Should have worked from home.

[EliSnow]

Thank god for my Inno.

[EliSnow]

Barne & Glover falling back. Sounds like the course is much tougher today.

[EliSnow]

Tiger is -1 with 4 to play. Glover and Barnes at -5, but not playing well. Plus there's some people in between.

It's still possible for Tiger to win, but I don't think it's likely. Mickelson's at -1 as well, but with more holes to play. He can do it too.

I wish I was watching this.

[Snoogans]

It also didnt have near as much rain and graduated rough like it does this year.

I'll guess -4, and there are 4-6 guys under par.
Current lead is -4, 6 guys under par

I say -7

I was so stupid to suggest -7 might win this, now I know for sure nobody is even gonna get close to that. Especially for an Open. Especially.

yes, you were

im just busting chops. and thats why i love you and spoon. you guys can never just say, 'i was wrong'. theres always an excuse as to why things dont work out the way you thought they would. though he usually likes to just blame refs and injuries, im glad you went with something more original.

MAYBE I would say it if I was actually wrong. Once again this proves why I am just so much better than everyone else.


And on a serious note, Tiger Woods has played pretty fuckin well since the start of the 3rd round. THIS is the bethpage I was hopin to see for 4 days. Shame that the weather kinda messed it up, or I have a feeling this would be Phil and Tiger down to the wire.

Shit its still possible one of them could steal this

[Snoogans]

Tiger missed his birdie on 17. He is even goin to 18. Not lookin good, since Phil just went to -2. Glover and Barnes cant be feeling good right now

[EliSnow]

And on a serious note, Tiger Woods has played pretty fuckin well since the start of the 3rd round. THIS is the bethpage I was hopin to see for 4 days. Shame that the weather kinda messed it up, or I have a feeling this would be Phil and Tiger down to the wire.


Exactly. I think it Tiger had gotten the afternoon later draw in the first round, this thing would be a lot different now.

[EliSnow]

Tiger missed his birdie on 17. He is even goin to 18. Not lookin good, since Phil just went to -2. Glover and Barnes cant be feeling good right now

ESPN just took Tiger off their home page leaderboard.

EDIT: Now he's back.

[Snoogans]

ESPN just took Tiger off their home page leaderboard.

EDIT: Now he's back.

Tiger finished even.

Phil is -2 and lookin at around a 10 footer for eagle on 13. Stay tuned, folks

[Snoogans]

This week has ruined my golf watching, btw. I used to HATE Phil. He seemed to me like one of those phony douches who puts on the good face for the camera and all that. but after this week, it seems like he is just legitimately that type of guy. I can't say ive turned a complete 180 and started rooting for him, but i can't really hate him.

Also, I watch for entertainment, and regardless who it is, if Phil keeps making the run he is making, that's fuckin exciting shit, and I have to cheer for that

[hammersavage]

Uh ohhhh

[Snoogans]

and we have a tie atop the leaderboard.

Phil Mickelson is now -4

[EliSnow]

This week has ruined my golf watching, btw. I used to HATE Phil. He seemed to me like one of those phony douches who puts on the good face for the camera and all that. but after this week, it seems like he is just legitimately that type of guy. I can't say ive turned a complete 180 and started rooting for him, but i can't really hate him.

Also, I watch for entertainment, and regardless who it is, if Phil keeps making the run he is making, that's fuckin exciting shit, and I have to cheer for that

You may have come to where I usually am.

I still think the face he puts on for the camera is different than the real him.

[Dudeman]

I used to HATE Phil. He seemed to me like one of those phony douches who puts on the good face for the camera and all that.

i agree, except he still annoys me, especially because of those way too fucking tight shirts and pants

[Snoogans]

You may have come to where I usually am.

I still think the face he puts on for the camera is different than the real him.

yea thats why i still cant say I like him. But im not rooting for him to choke it like I normally do. It is settin up great for that, though, and nothing is funnier than a good ole phil bomb.

[drjoek]

You may have come to where I usually am.

I still think the face he puts on for the camera is different than the real him.

As noted in the past I root for phil because hes built like me. He tries to make the same shots as I do( Through the trees etc, he makes a few i make NONE )I dont know if his aw shucks goofy smile is legit but he seems like a likeable guy and a real family man. So Im a Phil guy. Plus as stated before his dealing with his wife makes him sympathetic.

[drjoek]

You may have come to where I usually am.

I still think the face he puts on for the camera is different than the real him.

It may not be sincere but at least he presents the appearance of being a person. Tiger offers zero insight into himself. I find that makes im hard to root for in a way.

[Snoogans]

As noted in the past I root for phil because hes built like me. He tries to make the same shots as I do( Through the trees etc, he makes a few i make NONE )I dont know if his aw shucks goofy smile is legit but he seems like a likeable guy and a real family man. So Im a Phil guy. Plus as stated before his dealing with his wife makes him sympathetic.

I think the wife thing is why im not rooting against him, mostly.

From what I hear, when he is off camera and not in front of the paid fans, he is a real stuck up douche and acts like he is better than people. This is what I hear. i never met him.

[EliSnow]

yea thats why i still cant say I like him. But im not rooting for him to choke it like I normally do. It is settin up great for that, though, and nothing is funnier than a good ole phil bomb.

I bet he doesn't stay at -4. I think he falls back to -3, maybe -2, but could still win it.

[Snoogans]

It may not be sincere but at least he presents the appearance of being a person. Tiger offers zero insight into himself. I find that makes im hard to root for in a way.

This i find the opposite. Tiger acts like most people do. They dont want you to know too much about that, its not really any of your business. he isnt a bad guy. he is nice to people off the course, and he doesnt seem to be pretending he is anything he isnt. but he is there for all business, and sometimes you wanna keep shit a bit more private.

Phil doesn't say much more than Tiger does when he talks, he just puts it in a more happy tone.

[EliSnow]

It may not be sincere but at least he presents the appearance of being a person. Tiger offers zero insight into himself. I find that makes im hard to root for in a way.

I disagree that he offers zero insight. First, you know when he's pissed or happy with his game. So it's not like he's a complete robot.

Second, a large part of this is the fact that he's focused on the game and just isn't the player to do the crowd stuff. He's not a crowd person in that way.

But from everything I've read, he's more of a guys' guy and great in the clubhouse than Phil has ever been.

[drjoek]

Is this streaming online anywhere?

[Snoogans]

yes. type US Open in google and i think NBC.com also has it

[EliSnow]

This i find the opposite. Tiger acts like most people do. They dont want you to know too much about that, its not really any of your business. he isnt a bad guy. he is nice to people off the course, and he doesnt seem to be pretending he is anything he isnt. but he is there for all business, and sometimes you wanna keep shit a bit more private.

Phil doesn't say much more than Tiger does when he talks, he just puts it in a more happy tone.

Exactly. Tiger doesn't "play" the camera and crowd when he's playing. He's into the course and his game. He's so focussed, that it's like he doesn't even realize the crowd or cameras are there. And that's why he's as good as he is.

Phil plays the game and the crowd and camera. Meanwhile, he's more likely to choke than Tiger ever could be.

[drjoek]

Exactly. Tiger doesn't "play" the camera and crowd when he's playing. He's into the course and his game. He's so focussed, that it's like he doesn't even realize the crowd or cameras are there. And that's why he's as good as he is.

Phil plays the game and the crowd and camera. Meanwhile, he's more likely to choke than Tiger ever could be.

Arnie vs Jack back in the day

I rooted for Arnie

of course you pricks are so young..... :tongue:

[EliSnow]

As noted in the past I root for phil because hes built like me.

drjoek, the man-boobs of RonFez.net?


On second thought, there's got to be bigger ones on this site.

[Snoogans]

Arnie vs Jack back in the day

I rooted for Arnie

of course you pricks are so young..... :tongue:

I play golf because of Tiger Woods. The first time i picked up a golf club to even go hit at the range was cause I saw this 17 year old Tiger Woods guy playin as an amatuer in all these tournies and playin like he was as good as any of those guys.

Maybe he is like a machine, but thats what I want. An exciting machine who just tears shit up and leaves people broken who tried to play along side of him. Like Jordan did.

Phil leaves himself broken when he hooks balls into the woods

[hammersavage]

What does Duval have to finish to get further exemptions?

[Snoogans]

drjoek, the man-boobs of RonFez.net?


On second thought, there's got to be bigger ones on this site.

Hippo

[KnoxHarrington]

If the 18 hole playoff is necessary (which is a stupid way to break a tie, by the way), will they try to do it today or would they put it off until tomorrow?

[Snoogans]

What does Duval have to finish to get further exemptions?

You have to win to get any exemptions to other majors and to the PGA tour. Top 15 he gets to play in next year's US Open.

He may still have some exemptions from the major he won but I don't know

[hammersavage]

You have to win to get any exemptions to other majors and to the PGA tour. Top 15 he gets to play in next year's US Open.

He may still have some exemptions from the major he won but I don't know

No, this was his last exemption. That's why I was rooting for him, kind of a cool story.

[Snoogans]

If the 18 hole playoff is necessary (which is a stupid way to break a tie, by the way), will they try to do it today or would they put it off until tomorrow?

Why is that stupid? you are gonna decide an entire major on 1 hole so that 1 off shot could cost you the whole thing?

Id much rather see it be more fair. British Open does it the best, 4 hole playoff, but sudden death for a major is a joke

[EliSnow]

Arnie vs Jack back in the day

I rooted for Arnie

of course you pricks are so young..... :tongue:

Who? :tongue:


I've read that it's a similar dynamic. But, according to what I've read, there are a couple of diffrences.

First, Arnie was a much better player and more dominant than Phil was.

Second, Tiger's more charismatic than Jack. I think Tiger gets a lot of people cheering for him because of his passion and the way it comes out (the cursing if he screws up and the fist pumps when he makes a great shot.

[KnoxHarrington]

Why is that stupid? you are gonna decide an entire major on 1 hole so that 1 off shot could cost you the whole thing?

Id much rather see it be more fair. British Open does it the best, 4 hole playoff, but sudden death for a major is a joke

I agree with you -- the 4 hole playoff that the British and the PGA use (it might be 3 holes in the PGA, come to think of it ) -- is the best.

18 holes, though, is just too damn long.

[EliSnow]

If the 18 hole playoff is necessary (which is a stupid way to break a tie, by the way),

After last year's great playoff, I'm not sure how you can call it stupid.

[Snoogans]

I agree with you -- the 4 hole playoff that the British and the PGA use (it might be 3 holes in the PGA, come to think of it ) -- is the best.

18 holes, though, is just too damn long.

thats impossible. Its US Open golf. There is NEVER too much

[Snoogans]

this pin on 14 is the most evil thing ive ever seen, btw

[Snoogans]

Phil marks his ball with a gold dollar. eww. I fuckin hate him again. What a douche

[hammersavage]

The second you hate him, he gives one back. You're powerful

[Snoogans]

http://www.vivisect.org/choke/choke_full.gif

[Snoogans]

The second you hate him, he gives one back. You're powerful

seriously. he deserved that shit for marking his ball with a gold coin. So uppity

[EliSnow]

Can I get an update? I know Phil's back to -3. Where's Glover, Mahan, etc?

[KnoxHarrington]

Quick poll: rank your preference in the majors.

Here's mine:

1. Masters. Augusta, baby. The green fucking jacket. Also, the setup of the course allows for dramatic charges for the title, unlike the sadistic US Open courses, usually.

2. The US Open. I do like this tournament a lot, but, as I noted above, the courses are usually set up to be so brutal that the tournament at the end turns into pure survival; you aren't so much trying to win as you are trying not to blow it. Like Ol' Hefty just did on 15 with an ugly three-put.

3. The British Open. I like this one a lot because it's cool to see those link-style courses (even if some of them are just butt-ass ugly), but the same criticism I have of the US Open applies here: it can turn into just trying to hold on. Plus, the time difference means that if I'm not up first thing in the morning on a weekday morning (which ain't gonna happen), I won't see much of it.

4. The PGA Championship. My least favorite because it seems the least like a major to me. It just kinda seems like any other PGA Tour stop you see the rest of the year, with more cash. It just is kinda...there.

[Snoogans]

Can I get an update? I know Phil's back to -3. Where's Glover, Mahan, etc?

glover just parred 14. -4 goin to the 15th

[hammersavage]

Me and my friend talked about the major rankings yesterday. Same results, hard to argue. You could maybe flip British and US but I like the US better lately.

[EliSnow]

glover just parred 14. -4 goin to the 15th

Thanks. Can't trust ESPN.com's leaderboard.

[EliSnow]

I'd flip the U.S. Open and the Open (yes, I decided to be an elitist douche and call it the open). Masters, Open, U.S. Open, and PGA.

And Ryder Cup would fit in after the Masters in terms of overall events.

[Snoogans]

Quick poll: rank your preference in the majors.

Here's mine:

1. Masters. Augusta, baby. The green fucking jacket. Also, the setup of the course allows for dramatic charges for the title, unlike the sadistic US Open courses, usually.

2. The US Open. I do like this tournament a lot, but, as I noted above, the courses are usually set up to be so brutal that the tournament at the end turns into pure survival; you aren't so much trying to win as you are trying not to blow it. Like Ol' Hefty just did on 15 with an ugly three-put.

3. The British Open. I like this one a lot because it's cool to see those link-style courses (even if some of them are just butt-ass ugly), but the same criticism I have of the US Open applies here: it can turn into just trying to hold on. Plus, the time difference means that if I'm not up first thing in the morning on a weekday morning (which ain't gonna happen), I won't see much of it.

4. The PGA Championship. My least favorite because it seems the least like a major to me. It just kinda seems like any other PGA Tour stop you see the rest of the year, with more cash. It just is kinda...there.

the british depends where it plays, and the weather. They dont try to make the course harder like the USGA does.

1- US Open - Toughest one, takes every shot to win. Every winner had to do everything well to win. Plus it gives you a chance to see guys hit some shots just like you would.

2- the Masters. tough to put it second, especially if the wind is up there. But its always the same course, and no matter how amazing that course is, its not as cool as gettin to see how different the US Open host course plays from what it normally would play.

3 - British Open - Would be higher except its on SUPER fuckin early in the morning.

4- Not a bad one, but sits right after the WGC Bridgestone and right before the playoffs, so there is a huge tourney every week at that point. Kinda takes a bit away from the excitement

[Snoogans]

NICE. Duval is to -2 with a birdie on 15. Glover is in the rough on 15 but seems to have it sittin up

[KnoxHarrington]

Duval looks quite a bit chunkier and less cut than he used to, and he's 2 shots back at the US Open.

I can't imagine those two facts are not related.

[Snoogans]

I love that he still has the SAME OLD FUCKIN GLASSES

[hammersavage]

Duval or Mickelson, I'm happy either way.

[KnoxHarrington]

Damn, I hate Mickelson's pinstripe pants.

It's gotta be obvious playing to the crowd. "Hey, Yankees! Am I right, Long Island?"

[Snoogans]

Damn, I hate Mickelson's pinstripe pants.

It's gotta be obvious playing to the crowd. "Hey, Yankees! Am I right, Long Island?"

hahahahaha


And man Hunter Mahan just got FUCKED. He pissed off the golf gods somehow

[KnoxHarrington]

What just happened to Mahan's approach shot was one of the freakiest things I've ever seen in a golf tournament.

[mendyweiss]

Quick poll: rank your preference in the majors.

Here's mine:

1. Masters. Augusta, baby. The green fucking jacket. Also, the setup of the course allows for dramatic charges for the title, unlike the sadistic US Open courses, usually.

2. The US Open. I do like this tournament a lot, but, as I noted above, the courses are usually set up to be so brutal that the tournament at the end turns into pure survival; you aren't so much trying to win as you are trying not to blow it. Like Ol' Hefty just did on 15 with an ugly three-put.

3. The British Open. I like this one a lot because it's cool to see those link-style courses (even if some of them are just butt-ass ugly), but the same criticism I have of the US Open applies here: it can turn into just trying to hold on. Plus, the time difference means that if I'm not up first thing in the morning on a weekday morning (which ain't gonna happen), I won't see much of it.

4. The PGA Championship. My least favorite because it seems the least like a major to me. It just kinda seems like any other PGA Tour stop you see the rest of the year, with more cash. It just is kinda...there.

The PGA has no amateurs- only PGA pros
I would say it's the toughest field of all the majors

[KnoxHarrington]

Duval has a really makeable birdie putt on 16, which would put him in a tie for the lead.

And Hefty's being hefty. Tee shot on 17 short of the green and into the heavy rough.

[Snoogans]

im pulling for Hunter Mahan now. Because of that bad break he got. If not, i wouldnt mind seeing Duval or glover or barnes

[KnoxHarrington]

David Duval is tied for the lead in the US Open.

Where's my calendar? Have I slipped back through a time warp into 2002?

[Snoogans]

Mahan is done now. Glover, Phil, Duval all -3

[Snoogans]

and Phil choked it. -2 now. 1 back of duval and glover

[KnoxHarrington]

Bogey for Mickelson on 17.

Right now I'm calling it: David Duval will win the 2009 US Open.

[KnoxHarrington]

Mickelson does come back with a nice tee shot on 18. Maybe he's not out of it.

[Snoogans]

Mickelson does come back with a nice tee shot on 18. Maybe he's not out of it.

if he was still tied for the lead, you know that tee shot woulda been 40 yards left

[KnoxHarrington]

Maybe that Duval call was a little premature.

[KnoxHarrington]

My NBC affiliate cut off Duval's second shot because they were showing a shitty commercial for one of those rip-off "buy here pay here" lots.

[Snoogans]

My NBC affiliate cut off Duval's second shot because they were showing a shitty commercial for one of those rip-off "buy here pay here" lots.

rolled it a few feet past. Good shot

[Snoogans]

how did that not go down for Duval. Oh man

[KnoxHarrington]

rolled it a few feet past. Good shot

The same cannot be said for the putt that followed.

This is Glover's tournament to win. He just has to avoid blowing it.

[KnoxHarrington]

OK, unless Glover totally fucks up here, he will win the US Open.

[Snoogans]

congrats lucas glover on your US Open victory.


Who are you?

[EliSnow]

congrats lucas glover on your US Open victory.


Who are you?

How did Phil end up?

[KnoxHarrington]

How did Phil end up?

Looks like he'll be in the tie for 2nd, at -2.

It's not actually over yet. If Barnes makes his birdie putt here, a bogey by Glover sends us into a playoff.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's over now. Lucas Glover, 109th US Open Champion.

[hammersavage]

And the winner was at -4.

[Snoogans]

And the winner was at -4.

how many guys finished under par? Oh yea

[EliSnow]

how many guys finished under par? Oh yea

Was your prediction made before or after it was clear the rain would come?

[Evolved]

I think the wife thing is why im not rooting against him, mostly.

From what I hear, when he is off camera and not in front of the paid fans, he is a real stuck up douche and acts like he is better than people. This is what I hear. i never met him.
Most Golfers who play on a high level are like that. Most people though that about Davis Love III but he's the complete opposite.

And then there's Tom Lehman. He seems like a nice guy and is a very religious man (even has a fish on his bag) but I saw him totally lose his shit and beat the hell out of his golf bag in a parking lot at last years US open qualifier.
This i find the opposite. Tiger acts like most people do. They dont want you to know too much about that, its not really any of your business. he isnt a bad guy. he is nice to people off the course, and he doesnt seem to be pretending he is anything he isnt. but he is there for all business, and sometimes you wanna keep shit a bit more private.

Phil doesn't say much more than Tiger does when he talks, he just puts it in a more happy tone.
Tiger takes pictures of his shits and sends them to Elin so he's ok in my book.
Was your prediction made before or after it was clear the rain would come?

Before I believe

[EliSnow]

Most Golfers who play on a high level are like that. Most people though that about Davis Love III but he's the complete opposite.

And then there's Tom Lehman. He seems like a nice guy and is a very religious man (even has a fish on his bag) but I saw him totally lose his shit and beat the hell out of his golf bag in a parking lot at last years US open qualifier.


The difference is that, according to a number of accounts in golf books, magazines, etc. Phil acts like a real douche with the other PGA players in the clubhouse.

Most of the players, including Tiger, are not like that.

[EliSnow]

BTW, apparently, Mickelson set a record for finishing as US Open runner-up five times.

[Snoogans]

Was your prediction made before or after it was clear the rain would come?

i knew the rain would come, so i figured lower scores. I didnt know the first 2 days they would shorten the course so much. But when it dried out yesterday and today it got tougher and ended up right on target

[EliSnow]

i knew the rain would come, so i figured lower scores. I didnt know the first 2 days they would shorten the course so much. But when it dried out yesterday and today it got tougher and ended up right on target

I'm just thinking that if the later part of the first round didn't get an easier course, you probably would have seen lower scores around -2 to even to win.

[hammersavage]

If Tiger had a later start time on Thursday, he wins right?