was Jesus of Nazareth a real person

[patsopinion]

was the person "jesus of nazareth" a real being
did he walk the earth from (7–2 BC/BCE—26–36 AD/CE)
was he a real person

or is the entire thing a fable

this does not take into account the teachings or the "miracles"
just the person himself and his existence

whattya think?
pure bull shit


arg i cant edit poll results
should read nihilist

but that a nailist is a person who tends to nails, and Jesus was a huge fan of nails, it almost works in a weird way

[Friday]

yes.

[lleeder]

Jesus of suburbia was my favorite

[donnie_darko]

you throw david blaine and a pack of cards back in those days, and he'd be jesus.

fuckit.

[Chimee]

I think there was a carney named Jesus and a bunch of rubes that wrote about him.

[donnie_darko]

and they waited 30-50 years to write about him.....

must've been really busy.

[ecobag2]

Yeah I think Jesus was real. He was superior in compassion, understanding and communication and appeared to his followers to be divinely inspired. He has a great message.

He was killed by Roman ATF.

[Friday]

and they waited 30-50 years to write about him.....

must've been really busy.

the first folio of the plays of William Shakespeare were only compiled and bound some 25-30 years after being performed on stage.

some might say Willy Shakes was just as brilliant a storyteller as Christ himself.

the works of a great mind are seldom revered and documented at the time of inception.

[cougarjake13]

yes


he was some dude named jesus who was a carpenter at the time


everything after that is made up

[DarkHippie]

yeah, there was probably a guy named jesus who became a wandering preacher and people followed him. He inspired many people, but after vandalizing the Temple of Jerusalem, he was executed by Roman officials.

The stuff about miracles are tall tales that surround any hero. Davy Crockett did not 'kill him a barr when he was only three.' George washington did not cut down his father's cherry tree. Chuck Norris does not have a third fist under his beard.

edit: this does not mean that his teachings werent valid. If we all took what he said to heart, we'd all be better people.

[scottinnj]

the first folio of the plays of William Shakespeare were only compiled and bound some 25-30 years after being performed on stage.

some might say Willy Shakes was just as brilliant a storyteller as Christ himself.

the works of a great mind are seldom revered and documented at the time of inception.

Exactly. Most of the New Testament were letters written by the apostles to various churches around Rome and the Middle East. The Gospels were written by some of Jesus' disciples after His crucifixion as a record of His life for following generations.

The Bible as we know it didn't exist until the Middle Ages, but the text used for the Bible were written in His day.

[Death Metal Moe]

http://www.emoboyfriend.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/emo_jesus_lol.jpg

[bobrobot]

http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/small_cross_elvis.gif

[badorties]

Exactly. Most of the New Testament were letters written by the apostles to various churches around Rome and the Middle East. The Gospels were written by some of Jesus' disciples after His crucifixion as a record of His life for following generations.

The Bible as we know it didn't exist until the Middle Ages, but the text used for the Bible were written in His day.

there seems to be conflicting reports of a notice or quick blurb in some roman/jewish documentation:

we may look to Jewish historian Flavius Josephus and to Roman historian Carius Cornelius Tacitus - both well known and accepted.

Josephus, in the book Jewish Antiquities" wrote:

"At that time lived Jesus, a wise man, if he may be called a man; for he performed many wonderful works. He was a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. . . .And when Pilate, at the instigation of the chief men among us, had condemned him to the cross, they who before had conceived an affection for him did not cease to adhere to him. For on the third day he appeared to them alive again, the divine prophets having foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him. And the sect of the Christians, so called from him, subsists at this time" (Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 3, Section 1).

Tacitus, in writing about accusations that Nero burned the city of Rome and blamed it on Christians, said the following:

". . .Nero procured others to be accused, and inflicted exquisite punishment upon those people, who were in abhorrence for their crimes, and were commonly known by the name of Christians. They had their denomination from Christus (Christ, dm.), who in the reign of Tibertius was put to death as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate. . . .At first they were only apprehended who confessed themselves of that sect; afterwards a vast multitude discovered by them, all of which were condemned, not so much for the crime of burning the city, as for their enmity to mankind. . . ." (Tacitus, Annals, 15, 44).


but there was this amazing, brilliant PBS nova special: The Bible's Buried Secrets, An archeological detective story traces the origins of the Hebrew Bible (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bible/)

it placed the birth of judiasm, the old testament and the foundation of monotheism against historical and archeological data -- yahweh, king david, the exodus, the flood, and creation of isreal all put in a historical context

one of the more imformative, eye opening things i've ever watched ... a must see

[MacVittie]

no, but Jesus of Venice is real.

http://www.zudfunck.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/14/john_turturro.jpg

[Devo37]

we may look to Jewish historian Flavius Josephus and to Roman historian Carius Cornelius Tacitus - both well known and accepted.

Josephus, in the book Jewish Antiquities" wrote:

"At that time lived Jesus, a wise man, if he may be called a man; for he performed many wonderful works. He was a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. . . .And when Pilate, at the instigation of the chief men among us, had condemned him to the cross, they who before had conceived an affection for him did not cease to adhere to him. For on the third day he appeared to them alive again, the divine prophets having foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him. And the sect of the Christians, so called from him, subsists at this time" (Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 3, Section 1).


The bold part above is a pretty well-documented forgery by Eusebius, an early Christian historian (4th century), who added it into Josephus' writings. The original text (written in ~97AD) simply says that there was some guy named Jesus, and a sect of Christians exists. Of course, since this was written 60+ years after the supposed Jesus lived, it's hardly proof of anything (other than the fact that Christianity existed by 97AD).

Jesus is just one of dozens of similar man-gods who share similar storylines. they're all equally mythological.

[patsopinion]

the hole religious aspect is supposto be more palatable to those not in power
that's how it spread, through the peasant class because he was a peasant and would advocate a good after life if you worked hard as a peasant here

instead of education or economic success its okay to be a broke nothing with no economic aspirations and little education as long as your christian because then you get into heaven



which is why pilot has to be the bad guy because he is the establishment
instead the bad guys were the existing religious leaders whose authority and morals jesus questions
because questioning religion as a religious teaching makes it tough to brain wash and steal from the masses



im considering creating the first church of Nostisism, focusing on anarchy

like Christianity for punk Buddhists

[jennysmurf]

Not only was Jesus real, he kept it real. Word.

[Rob roccoli]

I know he's real. I buy tamales from his mom. What an odd question.

[Bunny™]

I'm both a nailist AND a nihilist.

If Jesus were alive today, he'd vote against Prop 8.