Who would you rather have on the mound?

[Snoogans]

I was arguing last night with an idiot friend of mine. This isnt an open question, just between these 2 guys.

If you had to win 1 game for everything, who would you rather have on the mound starting the game. This douche friend of mine said Josh Beckett. Seriously. Out of anyone ever. Now I got so annoyed I completely discounted his opinion, but I made the statement "the correct answer is, and ONLY is Bob Gibson. Over anyone, including Korfax, anyone. Bob Gibson. Of course he argued this (after sayin oh yea i forgot about koufax, id take him over beckett. NO FUCKIN SHIT).

Anyway, be smart and vote correctly.

[RhinoinMN]

What about Bert Blyleven?

[TheMojoPin]

Gibson, but why can't I pick Pedro in his prime?

[Snoogans]

Gibson, but why can't I pick Pedro in his prime?

cause that wasnt who the arguement was about. Its just between these 2 pitchers. DONT COMPLICATE SHIT

[Hottub]

Steve Carlton.

[Snoogans]

based on rhino and hottub's posts, can this thread be moved to the special education forum

[Marc with a c]

I don't know about koufax or gibson, but of the guys I've seen it is probably pedro.

[Friday]

this thread is not about what i thought it was going to be about.

:innocent:

[Fezticle98]

Sandy Koufax. I'm not saying why.

Oh wait...neither.

[Snoogans]

I don't know about koufax or gibson, but of the guys I've seen it is probably pedro.

THATS NOT THE QUESTION

[Don Stugots]

Jesus.

[Marc with a c]

THATS NOT THE QUESTION

I DON'T KNOW, I NEVER SAW THEM PITCH, AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO GIVE A PROPER ANSWER I WOULD NEED TO DO SO.

[Snoogans]

Jesus.

ahhh Jesus. I like him very much. But he no help with curve ball

[Snoogans]

I DON'T KNOW, I NEVER SAW THEM PITCH, AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO GIVE A PROPER ANSWER I WOULD NEED TO DO SO.

I hate you for tryin to cheat at darts

[OGC]

this thread is not about what i thought it was going to be about.

:innocent:


:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Don Stugots]

ahhh Jesus. I like him very much. But he no help with curve ball

Wait, this is about baseball? I thought the thread said MOUNT.

I gotta go with the brooklyn boy.

[K.C.]

In order:

1) Joe Blanton
2) Steve Carlton
3) Cole Hamels

[EddieMoscone]

Mickey Lolich. He beat Bob Gibson in game 7 of the '68 World Series.

[Snoogans]

In order:

1) Joe Blanton
2) Steve Carlton
3) Cole Hamels

can you throw Lidge at the end so I can trade for Pujols and make sure you dont win that game?

[RhinoinMN]

Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax....


http://www.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/the-boys-go-bowling_250x187.jpg

[Snoogans]

Mickey Lolich. He beat Bob Gibson in game 7 of the '68 World Series.

every yankee pitcher beat pedro in the playoffs in his prime. It happens

[Fezticle98]

They're both pretty old. I guess Bob Gibson is in a bit better shape nowadays, so I'll take him.

But Josh Beckett would definitely be a better option than either of those two at this point in their lives.

[IMSlacker]

Jack Morris

[RhinoinMN]

ahhh Jesus. I like him very much. But he no help with curve ball

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/mr_mets_daily/images/2008/06/28/serrano.jpg

[Snoogans]

They're both pretty old. I guess Bob Gibson is in a bit better shape nowadays, so I'll take him.

But Josh Beckett would definitely be a better option than either of those two at this point in their lives.

did you see the costas special with mays and aaron? When Gibson stood up to ask his question, he still looked like he would put a motherfucker on his back high and tight. With how fat beckett is probably by now, based on his past trends, I think Gibson, today could take him.

[JPMNICK]

i can tell from the CAPS and the small print who Snoogans subliminally is trying to get me to vote for

[Snoogans]

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/mr_mets_daily/images/2008/06/28/serrano.jpg

I wouldnt leave that rum sittin around out here with this bunch

[Snoogans]

i can tell from the CAPS and the small print who Snoogans subliminally is trying to get me to vote for

LIES AND PROPAGANDA FROM THE FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE DEAD BEAT OWNER

Are we gonna listen, my friends, to a man who cant even SET HIS FUCKIN LINE UP ONCE A WEEK FOR A FANTASY KEEPER LEAGUE


I didnt think so

[K.C.]

The proper answer to this question

1) Bob Gibson
2) Jim Palmer
3) Catfish Hunter
4) Steve Carlton
5) Tommy John
6) Lefty Grove
7) Tom Seaver
8) Sandy Koufax
9) Curt Schilling
10) Pedro Martinez

[Fezticle98]

did you see the costas special with mays and aaron? When Gibson stood up to ask his question, he still looked like he would put a motherfucker on his back high and tight. With how fat beckett is probably by now, based on his past trends, I think Gibson, today could take him.

I did. And he’s still a mean looking mofo. However, pitchers on 12,045 days rest usually don’t perform well.

[Snoogans]

The proper answer to this question

1) Bob Gibson
2) Pedro Martinez


fixed that

[Snoogans]

I did. And he’s still a mean looking mofo. However, pitchers on 12,045 days rest usually don’t perform well.

or pitchers on 12,000 hotdogs

[K.C.]

fixed that

Nope.

You can make a strong case for Jim Palmer OVER Bob Gibson in that situation.

Palmer is arguably the greatest postseason pitcher of all time.

[Snoogans]

Nope.

You can make a strong case for Jim Palmer OVER Bob Gibson in that situation.

Palmer is arguably the greatest postseason pitcher of all time.

If i needed like 30,000 in home equity loans, Id go to Jim Palmer. Thats about it

[Fezticle98]

Ruth. Babe Ruth.

Whitey Ford would be up there.

[Snoogans]

Ruth. Babe Ruth.

Whitey Ford would be up there.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Feroz626/sandlot_04.jpg

the great B A M B I N O

[NYHCmikeX]

I wouldnt leave that rum sittin around out here with this bunch



Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum.....Is very bad.

Gibson all the way. Unless it's a heavy left-handed lineup your facing, then you gotta consider Koufax, but not if it's Saturday...

They had to make the mound lower and bring fences in after Gibson '68 when his ERA was like 1.10.

[Snoogans]

Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum.....Is very bad.

Gibson all the way. Unless it's a heavy left-handed lineup your facing, then you gotta consider Koufax, but not if it's Saturday...

They had to make the mound lower and bring fences in after Gibson '68 when his ERA was like 1.10.

Jobu, i come to you, stand up for you. I offer you cigar, and rum.....you no help me now, i say FUCK YOU JOBU. I DO IT MYSELF

[epo]

Gimme Len Barker. But only on May 15, 1981.

[Snoogans]

Gimme Len Barker. But only on May 15, 1981.

stop livin in the past.

Ill take Zambrano but only in Miller Park

[Fezticle98]

stop livin in the past.

Ill take Zambrano but only in Miller Park

Doc Ellis. You know the deal. More entertaining.

[NYHCmikeX]

Don Larsen. not the greatest, but he did pitch the best game ever in the history of the sport.


I still stick with Gibson...even if he wasnt an option in the poll, he'd have been my pick.

[Snoogans]

Doc Ellis. You know the deal. More entertaining.

oh man, i didnt even think of that. Doc Ellis is the best ever. For more reasons then one might think:

However, Ellis is better-known for several incidents:

* Beaning Reggie Jackson in the face in apparent retaliation for Reggie's monstrous home run off Ellis in the 1971 All-Star game in Detroit.
* No-hitting the San Diego Padres on June 12, 1970 despite being, as he would claim in 1984, under the influence of LSD throughout the course of the game.[1] Ellis had been visiting friends in Los Angeles under the impression he had the day off and was still high when his girlfriend told him he had to pitch a game against the Padres that night. Ellis boarded a shuttle flight to the ballpark and threw a no-hitter despite not being able to feel the ball or clearly see the batter or catcher. Ellis claims catcher Jerry May wore reflective tape on his fingers which helped Ellis to see his target. Ellis walked eight, struck out six, and was aided by excellent fielding plays by second baseman Bill Mazeroski and centerfielder Matty Alou.[2] During the game, Ellis is reported to have commented to his teammates on the bench between innings that he was pitching a no-hitter-- in spite of the superstition that discourages mentioning a no-hitter while it is in progress. Because the no-hitter was the first game of a double header, Ellis was forced to keep track of the pitch count for the night game.[3]

According to Ellis:

I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria. I was zeroed in on the (catcher's) glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times. The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me.[4]

* Attempting to hit every batter in the Cincinnati Reds lineup on May 1, 1974. In an effort to prove a point to teammates, Ellis hit Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Dan Driessen in the top of the first. The clean-up batter Tony Perez avoided Ellis' attempts, instead drawing a walk, and after two pitches aimed at the head of Johnny Bench, Ellis was removed from the game by manager Danny Murtaugh. Ellis' box score for the game reads: 0 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K.[5]

* Arguing with and being maced by a Riverfront Stadium security guard on May 5, 1972. The guard claimed Ellis did not identify himself and "made threatening gestures with a closed fist"; Ellis countered that he was showing his World Series ring as evidence of his affiliation with the Pirates.[5]



How can you beat Doc Ellis

[epo]

stop livin in the past.

Ill take Zambrano but only in Miller Park

If I wanted imperfection, I'd gladly take Juan Nieves on April 15, 1987.

[Fezticle98]

If I wanted imperfection, I'd gladly take Juan Nieves on April 15, 1987.

You want imperfection? I'll take Andy Hawkins, July 1, 1990.

[Snoogans]

If I wanted imperfection, I'd gladly take Juan Nieves on April 15, 1987.

what do you know about winning important games, brewers fan



I know if i had to win one game, I would definately take the crafty veteran Eddie Harris, that way I could keep Vaughn in the pen for when Clue Haywood comes up.

[NYHCmikeX]

when Clue Haywood comes up.

But...he led the league in most offensive categories, including nose hairs.

http://geisen.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/cluehaywood1.jpg

[Snoogans]

But...he led the league in most offensive categories, including nose hairs.

http://geisen.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/cluehaywood1.jpg

bahhh, he isnt half the man Jack Parkman is.



Makes the women here in Cleveland PUKE


serious note: FUCKIN AWESOME. Maybe my favorite post ever. A PICTURE OF CLUE HAYWOOD



Dynamite drop in Monty, that broadcast school is really payin off

[NYHCmikeX]

Makes the women here in Cleveland PUKE

Only when he does his little shimmy.

Jack the Ripper! Jumpin' Jack Flash! New Jack City!

At least Dorn didnt trade him outright. He got Lou an outfielder. He used to play for the Giants.

Dynamite drop in Monty, that broadcast school is really payin off

I use Monty's line, "I heard that" all the time, waiting for ONE day when someone catches it and follows it up with this appropriate line.

[epo]

But...he led the league in most offensive categories, including nose hairs.

http://geisen.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/cluehaywood1.jpg

Any photo of 1982 CY Young Award Winner Pete Vuckovich is a good picture.

[Snoogans]

Only when he does his little shimmy.

Jack the Ripper! Jumpin' Jack Flash! New Jack City!

At least Dorn didnt trade him outright. He got Lou an outfielder. He used to play for the Giants.

in japan, knocking yourself unconscious is better then actually catching the ball



Anyone wanna go to the movies this weekend?
I wanna go see Black Hammer/White Lightning

[Snoogans]

I use Monty's line, "I heard that" all the time, waiting for ONE day when someone catches it and follows it up with this appropriate line.

that day is here, my friend.

Now why dont we go out and give them all a nice big shit burger to eat

[NYHCmikeX]

I wanna go see Black Hammer/White Lightning

Mine fell the hardest!

Mine are the deadest!

I could do this all day, but it's time to punch out now.

[Snoogans]

Mine fell the hardest!

Mine are the deadest!

I could do this all day, but it's time to punch out now.

i went to see his movie, but it was only out for 2 hours

[NYHCmikeX]

i went to see his movie, but it was only out for 2 hours

I was told however it was in focus.

[MacVittie]

Rapid Robert Feller.

[Snoogans]

I was told however it was in focus.

at least i dont have some covergirl draggin me around by my johnson

[NYHCmikeX]

at least i dont have some covergirl draggin me around by my johnson

Good news fans, the Tribe seems to be showing life for the first time in weeks! They seem to be beating the crap out of each other. Hayes is trying to hit Rick Vaughn, and why not? Everyone else in the league does. I dunno Monty, Vaughn seems to be carrying his left a little low, this could hurt him in the later rounds.

[spot]

Gibson by a mile. Sandy was great, but he only had 5 great years..plus Gibby was mean as a snake. Drysdale did all the dirty work brushing back batters.

[underdog]

I'm only picking Gibson if he gets to pitch off that 30 foot high plateau they used to call a pitchers mound.

[Snoogans]

I'm only picking Gibson if he gets to pitch off that 30 foot high plateau they used to call a pitchers mound.

15 inches. Its 10 inches now. Its not that much different

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oye gotta go with the Jew Koufax


Gibson was one hell of a schvartze pitcher though

[underdog]

15 inches. Its 10 inches now. Its not that much different

It's the equivalent of moving a basketball hoop to 6 and half feet.

[TheMojoPin]

can you throw Lidge at the end so I can trade for Pujols and make sure you dont win that game?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/username690/Lidge_Owned.jpg

As much as I fucking loathe the Cardinals, that definitely makes my top 10 of badass baseball moments I have witnessed in my lifetime.

[Snoogans]

It's the equivalent of moving a basketball hoop to 6 and half feet.

eddy curry still wouldnt block a shot

[scottinnj]

Steve Carlton.

QFT

[underdog]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/username690/Lidge_Owned.jpg

As much as I fucking loathe the Cardinals, that definitely makes my top 10 of badass baseball moments I have witnessed in my lifetime.

It really was fucking badass. It's one of those sports moments I don't think I'll ever forget.

[Snoogans]

It really was fucking badass. It's one of those sports moments I don't think I'll ever forget.

how can you forget it. The balls still hasnt fuckin landed

[underdog]

how can you forget it. The balls still hasnt fuckin landed

Has any single person ever been so certainly destroyed at once? Oh yeah, this guy :

http://i34.tinypic.com/jtayxk.jpg

[Snoogans]

Has any single person ever been so certainly destroyed at once? Oh yeah, this guy :

http://i34.tinypic.com/jtayxk.jpg

i saw this little kid in another video askin for his mothafuckin change

[underdog]

i saw this little kid in another video askin for his mothafuckin change

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[A.J.]

"Carl Hubbell."

http://www.thesweetscience.com/images/9634/p1_plimp_240x230_20061204.jpg

[cougarjake13]

koufax

[Snoogans]

koufax

fuck sandy koufax. If it wasnt for Johnny Drama buying his signed jersey cause Koufax's dog was sick, Koufax never did anything good

[El Mudo]

Gibson (career)

ERA+ : 127

WHIP: 1.18

Koufax (career)

ERA+ : 131

WHIP: 1.10, (including 4 straight seasons UNDER 1!!)


I'm taking Koufax, but the real answer is (as always), Pedro

Pete (career)

ERA+ : 154, includes a 291 in 2000, which is just OBSCENE

WHIP: 1.05!!!, including SIX.......SIX years of sub 1....Dear God!!

And just for poops n' giggles, look at Pete's 2000 season

1.74 (reg ERA)

291 (ERA+)

0.73 (WHIP)

Those are VIDEO GAME numbers when you create a pitcher and jack up his skillz to 99 on every thing