2009 Boston Red Sox Discussion :(

[A.J.]

Ponder the changes to be made in the offseason.

[K.C.]

Ponder the changes to be made in the offseason.

Well, Hippo banning should be at the top of the list...

[Nobody's Hero]

Obviously a tough loss, but this was not a Red Sox team playing at 100%. Not to make excuses, but clearly Papi hasn't been right since his wrist injury. Beckett was absolutely pitching through pain, the guy was stretching his right side after every pitch. No Mike Lowell, which hurts the team in so many ways; defensively You lose a FANTASTIC Gold Glove 3rd baseman, forcing your excellent 1st baseman to play the hot corner. No disrespect to Youk (the guy is unbelievable and did a great job at 3rd) or Kotsay (who also did a great job at 1st) but a healthy Lowell at 3rd and Youk at 1st is the clear situation of choice. That said, you can't keep letting a series go to 3-1 or 3-0 without it catching up at some point. And when injuries occur, others have to step up, I'm looking at you Jed Lowrie.

Hopefully, they work everything out with Tek in the offseason, and the core of this club can come back strong in '09.

[A.J.]

Well, Hippo banning should be at the top of the list...

I should. I really should since he was warned well in advance.

[K.C.]

I should. I really should since he was warned well in advance.

Give him the Tenbats treatment!!

[Kevin]

I should. I really should since he was warned well in advance.

I sat a good week.. And ban King Hippos crown too.

[patsopinion]

let the texeria sweepstakes begin

oh and dont bring back "tek" oooold and bats gone
its time to getta new captn

maybe see if kotsay or yoooooooouk can call a game

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'd love to see tex here, but that would mean lowell would need to go. Would be sad to see. I also think wake's gotta go another sad thing but having him on the team is hampering our ability to groom Tek's replacement. Tek 2 yrs 10 mil?

[DOHO@HOME]

Wak has to be done and another starter needs to be in place.
Papi is not been the bat of past and they should take real hard look at a replacement for next season.
Tek should be signed for a two year deal and give Cash more work.
They are always my team of choice.

[A.J.]

I also think wake's gotta go another sad thing but having him on the team is hampering our ability to groom Tek's replacement. Tek 2 yrs 10 mil?

Nah, Wake (healthy) is cheap and good for 15-17 wins. I want Tek mostly for his smarts behind the plate, not his bat.

Timlin, Byrd, Casey, Kotsay, Lugo = thank you and goodbye.

[OGC]

Nah, Wake (healthy) is cheap and good for 15-17 wins. I want Tek mostly for his smarts behind the plate, not his bat.

Timlin, Byrd, Casey, Kotsay, Lugo = thank you and goodbye.

I agree with everything but Byrd. He is a servicable 5th starter/long reliever. You can never have enough pitching.

[joeyballsack]

Pitching


Byrd - gone.

Timlin - gone.

Wakefield - Resign him to the 4 million option in a heartbeat.



Fielders

Casey - he may as well be gone since they didnt use him anyways.

Cora - not really needed with Lowrie emerging.

Crisp - I think they should trade him now while his value is up. Ellsbury struggled a bit in the postseason, but it was his first full season and he may have run out of gas a bit.

Kotsay - the only way I can see him coming back is if Crisp is traded. Then he becomes the super utility guy, spelling Ellsbury and Drew in the outfield.

Lugo - as much as I would like to see him gone, I dont know how they get rid of him without eating pretty much all of his contract.

Varitek - Do they really have any other option than to resign him ? Who is out on the market that is any better ?

Free Agent Additions I Would Love To See

Derek Lowe - He has said Boston is at the top of his wish list and I would love to see him back again. He is probably going to want more money than a guy who would be a #4 should warrant though.

Mark Texiera - I know its a long shot, but he would be a perfect guy to put behind Ortiz. The price is probably going to be way too high to get him though, then you also have to figure out what to do with Youk or Lowell.

[Fallon]

Tek is staying for his handling of the pitchers, they need to build up their bench though for late innings. No way Tek or Kotsay should be hitting in do or die at bats.

[K.C.]

Tek is staying for his handling of the pitchers, they need to build up their bench though for late innings. No way Tek or Kotsay should be hitting in do or die at bats.

Varitek is staying in Boston, because the catching market sucks.

Short of trading for Gerald Laird, who will be available for a trade from the Rangers, there's nothing else out there worth their attention.



I was looking at the Red Sox organization today. They're in pretty good shape, in terms of payroll, even for a high budget team.

The way I see it, they have the following issues/priorities:

1) Sign Varitek.

2) Decide what they want to do between Lugo and Lowrie. Lugo has a lot of contract left, which is probably unmovable, unless the Red Sox eat the majority of it and basically dump him. Can they platoon the two? Would Lowrie benefit from starting '09 in AAA?

3) Restructure their reserves. Casey, Cora, and Kotsay are gone. Cash may get non-tendered.

4) Crisp or Ellsbury? Crisp played better down the stretch, but Ellsbury has more upside. Yet, Ellsbury also has more trade value.

5) Figure out the back end of their rotation. Beckett, Lester, Dice-K will be the first three. Do they fill from within with Buchholz, Masterson, or Bowden? Do they dump a ton of money on C.C., or a little bit less to get a guy like Lowe back.


All in all, though, not too much to worry about. I'd be surprised if they went after Teixiera.

[A.J.]

Varitek is staying in Boston, because the catching market sucks.

Short of trading for Gerald Laird, who will be available for a trade from the Rangers, there's nothing else out there worth their attention.

The rumor was that the Sox trade for Jarrod Saltalamacchia.

[Dan 'Hampton]

The rumor was that the Sox trade for Jarrod Saltalamacchia.
I love when Remy tries to pronounce that name.
"Batting 8th we got Salty".

[K.C.]

The rumor was that the Sox trade for Jarrod Saltalamacchia.

Unless they gave up Ellsbury, Masterson, or Bowden, I'm not sure why the Rangers would do that

One guy that may become available through trade for them, that hasn't been talked about yet on the Hot Stove because the team is still playing, is Carlos Ruiz from the Phillies.

The Phillies have another starting catcher ready to take over next season. Ruiz isn't great offensively, but he's very good defensively and calls a good game, and he's significantly younger and cheaper than Varitek.

Plus they wouldn't have to give up a lot to get him.

[A.J.]

Wake (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081031&content_id=3656821&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) and Theo (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081104&content_id=3662860&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) are coming back.

[A.J.]

Congrats to Dustin Pedroia on his first Gold Glove! (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081106&content_id=3667292&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

Youk should have won his second consecutive at first had he not had to take over third in Mike Lowell's absence.

[cougarjake13]

Congrats to Dustin Pedroia on his first Gold Glove! (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081106&content_id=3667292&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

Youk should have won his second consecutive at first had he not had to take over third in Mike Lowell's absence.

carlos pena would still have won


















jus kidding i have no idea

[joeyballsack]

• The Boston Red Sox are among the clubs who have done some background work on Detroit left-hander Dontrelle Willis, indicating the Tigers' preference for trading part of what last winter had been such a promising deal with Florida. Detroit needs a shortstop after cutting ties with Edgar Renteria, and a Willis-for-Julio Lugo swap would help each club unload a bad contract and help fill a need. Willis is due $22 million over the next two seasons; Lugo is owed $18 million over the next two seasons, plus he has a $9 million option for 2011 that vests with 2,400 plate appearances between 2007 and 2010 and 600 plate appearances in 2010.

I wouldn't mind seeing this deal go down. Lugo needs to go elsewhere and Willis is still young enough to be able to turn things around.

[joeyballsack]

The second page is for losers, time to bump this bitch back up to the top.

Administrative Assistant to the Traveling Secretary and Baseball Operations - Boston Red Sox (Boston, MA)

We are seeking a highly organized and self motivated individual who will assist the Traveling Secretary in all areas of Club travel. This role requires strong administrative skills as well as the ability to multi-task. Responsibilities include:

Assist the Traveling Secretary and Director of Baseball Operations with the development and implementation of the travel-related departmental budget

Ensure all air, car and hotel reservations are done on a timely basis for all parties traveling

Manage and track all travel expenses and ensure all charges are allocated to the appropriate departmental budgets

Assist with negotiating contracts for hotel, car rental and airline rates as well as other travel related contracts

Act as the liaison between the Club and travel providers, i.e. airlines, travel agents, movers, etc.

Assist the Traveling Secretary with the timely execution and coordination of road trips for the Major League team

Coordinate and maintain employee schedules, billing and booking for spring training, winter meetings, GM meetings, post season activities and other special events and meetings

The ideal candidate will have 3-5 years experience in the travel industry or related travel experience in a corporate setting. Prior experience in managing vendor relationships and negotiating contracts preferred. This individual should possess excellent written and verbal communications skills as well as the ability to interact with all levels of the organization. Superior organizational skills, the ability to multi-task competing priorities while meeting strict deadlines and the capacity to work independently will be the key to this individual's success. Strong technical experitse in Excel, Word and Outlook are required.



Note: When you apply for this job online, you will be required to answer the following questions:

1. Yes/No: I have administrative assistant experience

2. Yes/No: I have travel industry related experience

3. Yes/No: I live in the greater Boston area

Apply here:http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/jobs/apply.cfm?jobid=21816


If you get this job and saw the opening here first, I expect a hookup on tickets.

That is all.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Costanza!

[cougarjake13]

The second page is for losers, time to bump this bitch back up to the top.

Administrative Assistant to the Traveling Secretary and Baseball Operations - Boston Red Sox (Boston, MA)

We are seeking a highly organized and self motivated individual who will assist the Traveling Secretary in all areas of Club travel. This role requires strong administrative skills as well as the ability to multi-task. Responsibilities include:

Assist the Traveling Secretary and Director of Baseball Operations with the development and implementation of the travel-related departmental budget

Ensure all air, car and hotel reservations are done on a timely basis for all parties traveling

Manage and track all travel expenses and ensure all charges are allocated to the appropriate departmental budgets

Assist with negotiating contracts for hotel, car rental and airline rates as well as other travel related contracts

Act as the liaison between the Club and travel providers, i.e. airlines, travel agents, movers, etc.

Assist the Traveling Secretary with the timely execution and coordination of road trips for the Major League team

Coordinate and maintain employee schedules, billing and booking for spring training, winter meetings, GM meetings, post season activities and other special events and meetings

The ideal candidate will have 3-5 years experience in the travel industry or related travel experience in a corporate setting. Prior experience in managing vendor relationships and negotiating contracts preferred. This individual should possess excellent written and verbal communications skills as well as the ability to interact with all levels of the organization. Superior organizational skills, the ability to multi-task competing priorities while meeting strict deadlines and the capacity to work independently will be the key to this individual's success. Strong technical experitse in Excel, Word and Outlook are required.



Note: When you apply for this job online, you will be required to answer the following questions:

1. Yes/No: I have administrative assistant experience

2. Yes/No: I have travel industry related experience

3. Yes/No: I live in the greater Boston area

Apply here:http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/jobs/apply.cfm?jobid=21816


If you get this job and saw the opening here first, I expect a hookup on tickets.

That is all.


dont forget #4

4. be able to take a punch from an overpaid athlete

[A.J.]

Congratulations 2008 AL MVP Dustin Pedroia! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3710856)

[JimmieHats]

Yay Pedey!! :clap:

[Fallon]

Way to go Dusty! Hell of a season.

Sox trade Crisp to KC (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/11/report_crisp_he.html)

[JimmieHats]

Coco to the Royals for relief pitcher Ramon Ramirez. Anyone know about this guy?

[OGC]

Coco to the Royals for relief pitcher Ramon Ramirez. Anyone know about this guy?

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/11/the_ramon_ramir.html

last year 70 strike outs and 31 walks in 71 innings pitched with an era of 2.64.

Looks like the Sox have helped their bullpen and maybe now Masterson can return to the starting rotation.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Ok so I really want us to land Tex.
I'll be sad to see Lowell go but from what you hear on the free agent front, and common sense this is the guy they want and will probably break the bank for.
Discuss...

[joeyballsack]

I could see Lowell being sent to the Rangers as part of a package for one of their catchers, along with maybe Bucholtz or Pauley.

That would allow Youk to go back over to third and Texeira plugs right in.

[JimmieHats]

Rocco Baldelli was in town talking with the Sox. Possibility for the fourth infielder role.

[drjoek]

Rocco Baldelli was in town talking with the Sox. Possibility for the fourth infielder role.



Isn't Rocco a centerfielder?

[Dan 'Hampton]

Get ready for Tazawa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junichi_Tazawa

[OGC]

Rocco Baldelli was in town talking with the Sox. Possibility for the fourth infielder role.

Isn't Rocco a centerfielder?

I think he meant "4th outfielder", since there are already 4 infielders.

[cougarjake13]

Rocco Baldelli was in town talking with the Sox. Possibility for the fourth infielder role.

Isn't Rocco a centerfielder?

I think he meant "4th outfielder", since there are already 4 infielders.



yeh but he played mainly right this past year

[JimmieHats]

Dustin Pedroia has signed a new 6-year deal with the Sox, reportedly worth $40.5 mil. Included is a club option in 2015. :clap:

[OGC]

Dustin Pedroia has signed a new 6-year deal with the Sox, reportedly worth $40.5 mil. Included is a club option in 2015. :clap:

I thought there was a recession going on.

[cougarjake13]

I thought there was a recession going on.

apparently not in sports

[A.J.]

Dustin Pedroia has signed a new 6-year deal with the Sox, reportedly worth $40.5 mil. Included is a club option in 2015. :clap:

He earned every cent of it.

[JimmieHats]

Sox add 22 yr old Japanese RHP Junicki Tazawa to the roster. 3 years, $3.3 mil. Major league contract, but will start development in Minors. Should help sell a few tickets at McCoy...

[Fallon]

Sox add 22 yr old Japanese RHP Junicki Tazawa to the roster. 3 years, $3.3 mil. Major league contract, but will start development in Minors. Should help sell a few tickets at McCoy...

I saw Colon pitch at McCoy.

That signing worked out well.

[Fallon]

New road uniforms.
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/12/11/8_mdc__1229042588_2520.jpg
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/12/11/7_rice__1229042499_3049.jpg

Kinda what they used to have in the 80's.

[A.J.]

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/12/11/7_rice__1229042499_3049.jpg

For the love of God, PLEASE market the Jim Rice jersey!

[cougarjake13]

you can go to mlb.com and personalize the jersey to have rice's name and number


woops i guess you cant they wont let you use old players names and numbers but with a lil teaking i was able to


http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[J+RICE]&set=key[number],value[14]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p1838624_customback.chain]

[A.J.]

Sox pick up Brad Penny and Josh Bard. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3797047)

You might recall Bard is the catcher they got in the Coco trade with Cleveland and then traded to the Padres to get back Doug Mirabelli.

[JimmieHats]

I'll buy that for a dollar...

[OGC]

Baldelli Heading To Beantown (http://http://www.thebostonchannel.com/redsox/18439466/detail.html)


and it looks like John Smoltz is close too (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/sports/18438376/detail.html)

[joeyballsack]

Any chance Smoltz might be used in the reliever/setup role instead of a starter and move Masterston into the rotation ?

I like the Baldelli signing.

[cougarjake13]

Any chance Smoltz might be used in the reliever/setup role instead of a starter and move Masterston into the rotation ?

I like the Baldelli signing.

good question



not sure if he can start anymore or even get to 5 and im not sure if he'd want to be just a bullpen guy and he was pretty awesome as a closer but ya already got paps

[A.J.]

I would have liked D-Lowe back but having Smoltz in the rotation isn't bad.

[OGC]

I would have liked D-Lowe back but having Smoltz in the rotation isn't bad.

If Lowe wasn't asking for such a big payday, I'd bet they would have loved to have him back.

Let him have his money and play for some losing team again.

Mark Kotsay set to re-sign (http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?&articleid=1144153&format=&page=1&listingType=sox#articleFull/)

[El Mudo]

Any chance Smoltz might be used in the reliever/setup role instead of a starter and move Masterston into the rotation ?

I like the Baldelli signing.

Can Baldelli even play to a high level regularly due to his mitochondrial/channelopathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channelopathy) issues? I think its a decent low risk, high reward signing.






Obviously a tough loss, but this was not a Red Sox team playing at 100%. Not to make excuses, but clearly Papi hasn't been right since his wrist injury. Beckett was absolutely pitching through pain, the guy was stretching his right side after every pitch. No Mike Lowell, which hurts the team in so many ways; defensively You lose a FANTASTIC Gold Glove 3rd baseman, forcing your excellent 1st baseman to play the hot corner. No disrespect to Youk (the guy is unbelievable and did a great job at 3rd) or Kotsay (who also did a great job at 1st) but a healthy Lowell at 3rd and Youk at 1st is the clear situation of choice. That said, you can't keep letting a series go to 3-1 or 3-0 without it catching up at some point. And when injuries occur, others have to step up, I'm looking at you Jed Lowrie.

Hopefully, they work everything out with Tek in the offseason, and the core of this club can come back strong in '09.


Why does everyone keep insisting they need to re sign Varitek? Doesn't he pretty much become expendable with the reaquisition of Bard and Mirabelli (who's pretty much only there to handle Wakefield)?

I understand the love for Varitek, but at this point, he's a rotting corpse

(using Bard's 07 stats because I don't have a subscription to use PECOTA and he was injured much of 08)

Varitek OPS+: 73 (and If you want to be fair and use Varitek's 07 stat's too, his OPS + in 07 was 103)
Bard OPS+: 107



Varitek EqA: .237 (from .272 in 07)
Bard EqA: .275 (and in 06 it was .328, better than any EqA Varitek has EVER put up)



Varitek VORP: -2.0 (dead last on the Sox, down from 07 when it was 22.3)
Bard VORP: 23.5


Varitek is also 36 years old, and Bard is 30

[A.J.]

Why does everyone keep insisting they need to re sign Varitek? Doesn't he pretty much become expendable with the reaquisition of Bard and Mirabelli (who's pretty much only there to handle Wakefield)?

Mirabelli was cut loose last year when they had Kevin Cash.

[El Mudo]

Gotcha....I was under the impression they had gotten him back at some point. My mistake.

That whole Bard/Mirabelli switch thing a few years ago with San Diego and Boston still confuses me sometimes.


But George Kottaras seems promising no (http://www.soxprospects.com/players/kottaras-george.htm)?

And he catches knuckleballers!

[Snoogans]

Can Baldelli even play to a high level regularly due to his mitochondrial/channelopathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channelopathy) issues? I think its a decent low risk, high reward signing.









Why does everyone keep insisting they need to re sign Varitek? Doesn't he pretty much become expendable with the reaquisition of Bard and Mirabelli (who's pretty much only there to handle Wakefield)?



apparently Tek is amazing handling pitchers, defense, calling games, shit like that. So alot of people want to keep him around. FUCK THAT. He is an auto out and we need to move on

[Snoogans]

Gotcha....I was under the impression they had gotten him back at some point. My mistake.

That whole Bard/Mirabelli switch thing a few years ago with San Diego and Boston still confuses me sometimes.


But George Kottaras seems promising no (http://www.soxprospects.com/players/kottaras-george.htm)?

And he catches knuckleballers!

Scouting Report: Offensive-minded catcher with 20-25 home run power potential and good plate discipline. However, his patience at the plate has led to leaving his bat on his shoulder a bit too much. Takes advantage of mistake pitches. Doesn't make contact on a consistent-enough basis. Has been somewhat pull-happy historically. Behind the plate, Kottaras' glove skills have been called into question in the past, including his ability to throw out runners, his game calling ability, and his basic fundamentals. However, he's a very hard worker and takes to developmental coaching well, and as such his skills have improved during his time in the Sox system. His game calling ability has certainly improved, as the PawSox staff has grown very comfortable with Kottaras behind the dish. On the other hand, while his arm is strong, his throwing motion still lacks quickness, and he only throws about 20% of runners out. Good at blocking balls in the dirt, and gets to bunts and fly balls well. Has extended experience catching knuckleballers.



I dont know how much I like this kid. A lot of things to fix for someone who is already gonna be 26

[PerryWinkle]

Scouting Report: Offensive-minded catcher with 20-25 home run power potential and good plate discipline. However, his patience at the plate has led to leaving his bat on his shoulder a bit too much. Takes advantage of mistake pitches. Doesn't make contact on a consistent-enough basis. Has been somewhat pull-happy historically. Behind the plate, Kottaras' glove skills have been called into question in the past, including his ability to throw out runners, his game calling ability, and his basic fundamentals. However, he's a very hard worker and takes to developmental coaching well, and as such his skills have improved during his time in the Sox system. His game calling ability has certainly improved, as the PawSox staff has grown very comfortable with Kottaras behind the dish. On the other hand, while his arm is strong, his throwing motion still lacks quickness, and he only throws about 20% of runners out. Good at blocking balls in the dirt, and gets to bunts and fly balls well. Has extended experience catching knuckleballers.



I dont know how much I like this kid. A lot of things to fix for someone who is already gonna be 26

could he be a piazza type catcher for a few years? or not good enough for that

[Snoogans]

could he be a piazza type catcher for a few years? or not good enough for that

from what I hear, he will never hit well enough to be like that. And piazza had big time power. I dont think this kid would have that power, and would never hit 300.

Although, at this point, how is this guy different from Tek, prob still better

[El Mudo]

His numbers in OBP, SLG and OPS all went up from 07 to 08, so thats kinda promising.

Bard's got a risk of injury, but I think it all depends on whether you want Kottaras playing in Pawtucket every day or in Boston playing every once in a while...I think Boston can afford the latter (especially since he catches knuckleballers), and I think I would rather take a chance on what Kottaras can potentially offer you since Varitek is getting close to the end. Its like when the Canadiens used to sell off their older veterans to struggling teams for really high draft picks while they still had some value.

[Fallon]

apparently Tek is amazing handling pitchers, defense, calling games, shit like that. So alot of people want to keep him around. FUCK THAT. He is an auto out and we need to move on

He's caught four no-hitters, but his bat sucks.

[OGC]

He's caught four no-hitters, but his bat sucks.

Anyone the Sox are able to get as a catcher for this year probably isn't gonna hit much more than Varitek. Hopefully they will have enough offense from the rest of the lineup to makeup for the lack of hitting from the catcher's spot.

If Tek can be signed to a reasonable contract (not too much $, not too many years) and the Sox can trade for a good catching prospect to bring along in the next couple of years. I'd be happy.

[cougarjake13]

sawx signed fromer dodger closer taki saito

[jonyrotn]

RICE GETS IN!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p:

[Snoogans]

ABOUT FUCKIN TIME


Congrats, JIM RICE

[El Mudo]

ABOUT FUCKIN TIME


Congrats, JIM RICE



Ugh


No way Rice should be in the HOF

But good for him....stupid writers

[JimmieHats]

RICE GETS IN!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p:

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! Finally.

[Jujubees2]

Way to go JIM ED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OGC]

Red Sox pursue trade for Colorado catcher Montero (http://http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090112&content_id=3740087&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

[A.J.]

Ugh


No way Rice should be in the HOF

But good for him....stupid writers

I know your thoughts and the arguments against him getting. They're valid.

But the man has always been my hero and I couldn't be more thrilled. I want #14 retired like Johnny Pesky's number was this year and I WANT MY DAMN #14 JERSEY AT THE YAWKEY WAY STORE!!!!!!

[The Jays]

If I see the word Tek one more time, I am going to kill someone.

[Fallon]

If I see the word Tek one more time, I am going to kill someone.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8454/teck281x211lh7.jpg

[El Mudo]

I know your thoughts and the arguments against him getting. They're valid.

But the man has always been my hero and I couldn't be more thrilled. I want #14 retired like Johnny Pesky's number was this year and I WANT MY DAMN #14 JERSEY AT THE YAWKEY WAY STORE!!!!!!

Couldn't be happier for the man....its the writers who get my wrath

They are the most pretentious bunch of people in the entire world. They think stats guys are people who "don't watch the game", yet they use pseudo stats like "MVP awards" and "all star game appearances" to back up their "arguments" about how great a player is. They elevate "scrappy" (aka white) players like Erstad and Eckstein to mythical status and talk about guys like Manny Ramirez and Vlad Guererro like theyre basically "children" incapable of hard work and playing the game "the right way".

I despise them all.

[OGC]

Red Sox - Yankees game 4 of the 2004 ALCS is on from 8 to 10pm on espn classic tonight.

[OGC]

:clap::clap: Red Sox sign Kevin Youkilis to a 4 year, $41 million contract (club option for 5th year) :clap::clap:
(http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090116&content_id=3747748&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

[A.J.]

Paps: 1-year, $6.25M. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3846966)

[JimmieHats]

Tickets for remaining home games on sale at 10am tomorrow. Opening Day and Yankees series excluded. Good luck, buddays. It's always a madhouse. Go Sox!

[OGC]

Tickets for remaining home games on sale at 10am tomorrow. Opening Day and Yankees series excluded. Good luck, buddays. It's always a madhouse. Go Sox!


I'll be trying. I don't hold out much hope though. I'd like to think that I'll get my sons to Fenway to see the Red Sox sometime before they graduate from high school.

[OGC]

Has anyone ever had success buying tickets online at redsox.com ?

[Jujubees2]

Has anyone ever had success buying tickets online at redsox.com ?

Nope. I keep hitting the "T" button but nothing happens.

[Jujubees2]

I finally got into the virtual waiting room by trying to buy tickets through the Orioles for a Red Sox home game. I'm not very optimistic that I'll get through.

[OGC]

I finally got into the virtual waiting room by trying to buy tickets through the Orioles for a Red Sox home game. I'm not very optimistic that I'll get through.


Does anyone know if the actual box office is open ? I may actually drive in to Boston tomorrow and try that.

I haven't had any trouble getting into the virtual waiting room but once there it just counts down from 30 and resets. Been doing that since 10am. :furious: Assholes.


Well at least I should be able to take my boys to a Sox game this summer since we are planning to travel down the east coast. Hopefully we can catch a game in Baltimore and I am guessing I will have little trouble getting tickets to a Washington Nationals/Red Sox game.

[OGC]

Well my wife finally got past the virtual waiting room, we picked the game we wanted, chose "best seats available", requested 4 tickets and put in the silly code number to prove I was a real person......... it came back with "sorry due to high demand we can't process your order right now, press continue to resubmit your request. We did that about 50 times and it finally came back with 4 of the best seats available "general admission - no seats" fucking standing room only.

I tried about a half dozen games and got the same result with all of them, yet the website still says that there are no sold out games yet, and I have no doubt that as I am watching the games on tv this summer, I'll be seeing commercials telling me that there are still tickets available to most games.

[spadanko]

Jason Varitek has reached a two-year agreement with the Red Sox, SI.com has learned. The captain decided to return after many twists and turns in negotiations.

The 36-year-old catcher, who has served as Boston's official team captain since 2005, is coming off of the worst offensive season of his career, hitting just .220 with 43 RBIs in 131 games.

[cougarjake13]

all i heard is 1 yr deals


and a 2 yr deal pops outta nowhere

[A.J.]

Sox add El Mudo's former hero Brad Wilkerson. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090203&content_id=3795764&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

[A.J.]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/BDD_TD_morning_2.6.09_sds.jpg

[badorties]

all i heard is 1 yr deals

and a 2 yr deal pops outta nowhere


mutual option

[Snoogans]

mutual option

its not a mutal option. That would mean they both have to pick it up for it to go. This is the team can pick up an option at 5 mill. If they dont, then Tek can pick up his own option at 3 mill.

[DOHO@HOME]

It's moving day to SPRING training:thumbup:

[Lividspiral]

as a yankees fan it pains me to say that i think i like boston's offseason more than the yankees. i'm a fan of sabathia but he's got an opt-out in year 3 so its basically a three year contract because no-one who's had an opt-out has ever not used it. texiera is great but not 180 mill great and im figuring burnett to be a more expensive second coming of carl pavano and likely will have more years on his contract than games started.

the sox however snagged penny and smoltz and saito and baldelli, the tazawa signing, the ramon ramirez trade, heck even bringing tek back and the minor league deals to me look more impressive and potentially more successful than the yankees dumping the 400 million on three players.

ive been counting down the days until spring training round valentines day since october and cant wait to get back at it regardless. xm really is the best giving both every baseball game as well as opie and anthony and ron and fez.

[Snoogans]

Hopefully that truck "accidentally" runs over Mike Timlin on the way to Florida

[Snoogans]

as a yankees fan it pains me to say that i think i like boston's offseason more than the yankees. i'm a fan of sabathia but he's got an opt-out in year 3 so its basically a three year contract because no-one who's had an opt-out has ever not used it. texiera is great but not 180 mill great and im figuring burnett to be a more expensive second coming of carl pavano and likely will have more years on his contract than games started.

the sox however snagged penny and smoltz and saito and baldelli, the tazawa signing, the ramon ramirez trade, heck even bringing tek back and the minor league deals to me look more impressive and potentially more successful than the yankees dumping the 400 million on three players.

ive been counting down the days until spring training round valentines day since october and cant wait to get back at it regardless. xm really is the best giving both every baseball game as well as opie and anthony and ron and fez.

you can't seriously be a Yankee fan, as you appear to actually watch baseball

[A.J.]

Hopefully that truck "accidentally" runs over Mike Timlin on the way to Florida

You mean Jesus didn't tell him to retire already?

[foodcourtdruide]

you can't seriously be a Yankee fan, as you appear to actually watch baseball

He objectively stated his points. He's the anti-sports fan.

[Snoogans]

You mean Jesus didn't tell him to retire already?

Even if Timlin is retired, still. Make up for the past

[A.J.]

Even if Timlin is retired, still. Make up for the past

Let's be fair. He had some very good years in Boston.

[Snoogans]

Let's be fair. He had some very good years in Boston.

So. The last few were TERRIBLE

[El Mudo]

Sox add El Mudo's former hero Brad Wilkerson. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090203&content_id=3795764&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)



I liked him when he played here, even though he put up a sparkling OPS+ of 103 and EqA of .267. We had the man hitting LEADOFF

That was easily the WORST season of his career (and the last year he was really a line up regular).

[Snoogans]

These moves really make me feel like they are gonna trade Elsbury

[OGC]

Even if Timlin is retired, still. Make up for the past

Let's be fair. He had some very good years in Boston.

So. The last few were TERRIBLE

true. part of being remembered as a good player is knowing when to stop playing.

[Kevin]

I say just make Timlin the closer and get it over with. It would be a nice sendoff to a great Redsox champion.

[A.J.]

true. part of being remembered as a good player is knowing when to stop playing.

Oh I agree believe me. But I don't wish death on the guy.

Well, after a couple of blown performances last year....MAYBE.

[TheMojoPin]

Hey, clowns! Get in here and vote for your team! (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75852&page=5)

[joeyballsack]

The Sox took their first step to an undefeated season today, beating Boston College 7-1.

Tazawa got the win and at this pace he will be 42-0 by the time they win the Series.

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK, now I'm perturbed.

Here is RF.net's favorite Yankee Beat Reporter:


http://www.lohud.com/blogs/profiles/pabraham.jpg


and here is RF.net's favorite Red Sox Beat Reporter:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ARibVKVt6sc/SLhk-Fy1OII/AAAAAAAAASI/Lt-zSEfkmUg/s320/Amalie+Benjamin.jpg

Damn you, Amalie Benjamin. DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!

[OGC]

And you guys don't have anything close to the Red Sox 'sideline' reporter...

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/images/heidi_watney.jpg

[A.J.]

and here is RF.net's favorite Red Sox Beat Reporter:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ARibVKVt6sc/SLhk-Fy1OII/AAAAAAAAASI/Lt-zSEfkmUg/s320/Amalie+Benjamin.jpg

Damn you, Amalie Benjamin. DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!

Enchantress.

And Jon Lester signs for a 5-year deal. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20090315&content_id=3991104&vkey=pr_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

[A.J.]

Oh good: Lugo is hurt again and will need surgery. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3981897)

[Snoogans]

Oh good: Lugo is hurt again and will need surgery. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3981897)

probably better off. Fuck him.

It was funny that the Sox starting SS makes like 400K and their backup like 11 million

[cougarjake13]

Oh good: Lugo is hurt again and will need surgery. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3981897)

and the rays look good again for not re signing him and trading him instead

[Snoogans]

and the rays look good again for not re signing him and trading him instead

the sox have looked dumb since they let Cabrera walk. At least Lowry looks solid

[cougarjake13]

the sox have looked dumb since they let Cabrera walk. At least Lowry looks solid

yeh i never understood that and signing renteria

[OGC]

the sox have looked dumb since they let Cabrera walk. At least Lowry looks solid

yeh i never understood that and signing renteria

I've always wondered what the problem was with Cabrera that the Sox didn't resign him, but since then he hasn't really stuck too well anywhere else.

[Notorious_JC]

I really wasn't surprised that they didn't make big moves, considering they did not have a lot of holes in the team. Adding Smoltz and Penny gives them pitching depth, which they are banking on.

I really like the Baldelli signing, since Drew cannot play everyday, and Bay will need a day of here and there. He should be good to pinch hit and be backup.

They are obviously depending on their pitching depth and gloves to keep them in it all year. This is going to be a team that relies on pitching and defense more than sheer offense.

[ChrisTheCop]

Schilling officially announces retirement.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090323&content_id=4052274&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

[Dan 'Hampton]

Schilling officially announces retirement.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090323&content_id=4052274&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Great player. If he was on your team you'd have loved him.

[drjoek]

Great player. If he was on your team you'd have loved him.

If he was on my team I'd change allegiances
Hes an insufferable prick

[cougarjake13]

Schilling officially announces retirement.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090323&content_id=4052274&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Great player. If he was on your team you'd have loved him.



he was never a met but i loved the guy as a pitcher and as a personality


will he ever be a pitching coach or mgr or will he just fade away or maybe do tv or radio ??

[Dan 'Hampton]

The fact that he would talk and give his honest opinion when we have guys like Arod who is so concerned with how people perceive him makes him a great personality. His postseason stats make him a great player.

[joeyballsack]

he was never a met but i loved the guy as a pitcher and as a personality


will he ever be a pitching coach or mgr or will he just fade away or maybe do tv or radio ??

My money would be on TV instead of coaching.

He could be the MLB Channel equivalent to Charles Barkley for TNT. The guy who isn't afraid to say outrageous shit to keep people tuning in.

[cougarjake13]

My money would be on TV instead of coaching.

He could be the MLB Channel equivalent to Charles Barkley for TNT. The guy who isn't afraid to say outrageous shit to keep people tuning in.

exactly what i was thinking

[ChrisTheCop]

If he was on my team I'd change allegiances
Hes an insufferable prick

You change your allegiances every other game.

[A.J.]

Schilling officially announces retirement.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090323&content_id=4052274&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

2004 put him in the Boston Pantheon. Thank you Curt.

[A.J.]

Shit, it looks like rain for Opening Day. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/04/rain_in_the_for.html)

[ChrisTheCop]

Shit, it looks like rain for Opening Day. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/04/rain_in_the_for.html)

Yeah, but it's only a 90% chance.

Anywho...it was great watching the Sox playing those exhibition games at mets field.
Everyone's looking sharp, and ready for the season.
JD Drew has the historical honor of being the first player to cross home plate in a major league game at the new stadium, Jed Lowrie hit not only the first homerun there, but the first grand slam, and look at this--even Tek hit a homah!

and Alex Cora is a met. :thumbdown:

Let's get this season started!!!

[A.J.]

Opening Day...at Fenway...with a win. Oh happy day!

[TjM]

and Alex Cora is a met. :thumbdown:


So?

[A.J.]

That wasn't pleasant.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, but it's only a 90% chance.

Anywho...it was great watching the Sox playing those exhibition games at mets field.
Everyone's looking sharp, and ready for the season.
JD Drew has the historical honor of being the first player to cross home plate in a major league game at the new stadium, Jed Lowrie hit not only the first homerun there, but the first grand slam, and look at this--even Tek hit a homah!

and Alex Cora is a met. :thumbdown:

Let's get this season started!!!



although it did happen first


the only that will count will be next week against the fathers

[A.J.]

Almost a comeback yesterday afternoon. The Rays' bats are rocking the starters again

Of to California to take on the Halos. One wonders how Adenhart's death will affect their play.

[ChrisTheCop]

Of to California to take on the Halos. One wonders how Adenhart's death will affect their play.

It's gonna have a very "win one for the gipper" feel, as it's the angel's first one since the tragic death of Adenhart. I'm sure some of the younger Sox knew him too... could be emotional for all.

[ChrisTheCop]

From David Ortiz' Facebook page:

Got into Anaheim late last night.....just wanted to say my thoughts and prayers are with Nick Adenhart's family. We are all thinking about you.

[A.J.]

4 losses in a row. Should I be concerned?

[drjoek]

4 losses in a row. Should I be concerned?


Yes. Its over.

[TjM]

3 losses in a row. Should I be concerned?

Fixeded

[A.J.]

Curse my jinxing!

[Snoogans]

Trade Pedroia. Trade Ortiz. Lester Blows. We Gotta Trade Lowry. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[drjoek]

Trade Pedroia. Trade Ortiz. Lester Blows. We Gotta Trade Lowry. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



A bag of balls for the lot of em

[ChrisTheCop]

Trade Pedroia. Trade Ortiz. Lester Blows. We Gotta Trade Lowry. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

lol. Is that an imitation of the yanker thread after a loss?

Ok, the angels won one for Adednhart... now feel the wrath of The Saux!!!!

Really tough schedule thus far, but we'll get thru it.

[Snoogans]

lol. Is that an imitation of the yanker thread after a loss?

Ok, the angels won one for Adednhart... now feel the wrath of The Saux!!!!

Really tough schedule thus far, but we'll get thru it.

more the callers to WFAN

[A.J.]

Really tough schedule thus far, but we'll get thru it.

No kidding. Opening against the defending AL Champs and then right into a West Coast Swing...yeesh.

[cougarjake13]

4 losses in a row. Should I be concerned?

only if it was the patriots or late sept for the sawx


4 losses in a 162 game season is nothing to worry about

[Kevin]

Trade Pedroia. Trade Ortiz. Lester Blows. We Gotta Trade Lowry. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Lester sucks. Trade him for Igawa.

[A.J.]

I must have gone through a pack during the bottom of that 9th inning yesterday. Jesus.

[cougarjake13]

Lester sucks. Trade him for Igawa.

nah


make it for pavano and you got a deal

[ChrisTheCop]

Another rough, close loss.

But how cool was it that after all the cry-babying about an obvious mistake (Beckett's throw at Abreu's head when a late time out was called), and the 4 ejections, and continued crying...
The Sox, who didnt satisfy the angels attempts to turn it into a melee, just settled right down and hit consecutive home runs to take the early lead!

Now, I'm no fan of throwing at heads, even when it's only POSSIBLE that it was a mistake, people can get seriously hurt of course. But when it's an obvious mistake, basically caused by a late call, and no malice intended... all of those antics were damn entertaining, but unnecessary.

Okay...things should start getting a little easier now.

[Fallon]

Another rough, close loss.

But how cool was it that after all the cry-babying about an obvious mistake (Beckett's throw at Abreu's head when a late time out was called), and the 4 ejections, and continued crying...
The Sox, who didnt satisfy the angels attempts to turn it into a melee, just settled right down and hit consecutive home runs to take the early lead!

Now, I'm no fan of throwing at heads, even when it's only POSSIBLE that it was a mistake, people can get seriously hurt of course. But when it's an obvious mistake, basically caused by a late call, and no malice intended... all of those antics were damn entertaining, but unnecessary.

Okay...things should start getting a little easier now.

Torri Hunter is a lunatic.

[ChrisTheCop]

Torri Hunter is a lunatic.

dont forget Justin Speier. wtf?

[A.J.]

It's nice to see the Sox picking up from last year in leaving guys on base in scoring position.

And what the hell is wrong with Okajima this year?

[razorboy]

Dude, that was a two-seam fastball. For a pitcher with Beckett's control it's pretty hard to lose the handle on that pitch "by mistake".

[drjoek]

Another rough, close loss.

But how cool was it that after all the cry-babying about an obvious mistake (Beckett's throw at Abreu's head when a late time out was called), and the 4 ejections, and continued crying...
The Sox, who didnt satisfy the angels attempts to turn it into a melee, just settled right down and hit consecutive home runs to take the early lead!

Now, I'm no fan of throwing at heads, even when it's only POSSIBLE that it was a mistake, people can get seriously hurt of course. But when it's an obvious mistake, basically caused by a late call, and no malice intended... all of those antics were damn entertaining, but unnecessary.

Okay...things should start getting a little easier now.

Dude, that was a two-seam fastball. For a pitcher with Beckett's control it's pretty hard to lose the handle on that pitch "by mistake".

Come on Chris you cant be serious, that Becketts pitch was a mistake are you?
Beckett is a punk with pinpoint control and always has been. That pitch was deliberate meant to hit him, whether it was meant to be at his head is up for deliberation but he meant to throw at him.
Red Sox fans used to use this same arguement to defend Clemens and Pedro back in the day.

[A.J.]

And The Curse of the ManRamino continues....

[ChrisTheCop]

And The Curse of the ManRamino continues....

Eww. Dont give that fuck too much credit.

Funny you talk about superstitions though; I specifically didnt watch last night, in the hopes my absence would help them win.

Guess I can watch tonight.

[razorboy]

Baseball tells Boston's Beckett to sit six. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-beckett15-2009apr15,0,5242752.story)

[cougarjake13]

Baseball tells Boston's Beckett to sit six. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-beckett15-2009apr15,0,5242752.story)



but he'll only miss one start which is bullshit cause a position player would miss 5 games


they should adjust it to pitchers missing 5 starts


those other 4 games he was never getting into them anyway

[OGC]

but he'll only miss one start which is bullshit cause a position player would miss 5 games


they should adjust it to pitchers missing 5 starts


those other 4 games he was never getting into them anyway


If it was a position player, he would have been suspended for 1 or 2 games.

[Fallon]

Dice K sucked a dick tonight, but at least Masterson came in and righted the ship. Sox are scoring too.

[ChrisTheCop]

We should see Okajima sometime tonight, just to keep things interesting.

[underdog]

Dice K has "arm fatigue".

Strange that someone who pitched 170 pitches a game, and pitched through the entire WBC would have "arm fatigue".

And it's Dice K; he lets up 5 runs in the first, but probably would have thrown 6 no-hit inning (but 17 walks) after that.

[ChrisTheCop]

I'm watching extra innings on Extra Innings!

[ChrisTheCop]

Bases loaded for David Ortiz!


edit: ugh.

[ChrisTheCop]

Good game. Good come back. But a loss. Oh well.

Lopez sucked, but ya gotta put the blame squarely on DiceK.

Our aces have yet to find their groove. But it's early.

[A.J.]

Let's just write off this West Coast swing and try to regroup in Boston.

[MacVittie]

... and he's six outs away from a no-hitter. I got the Yankees game on YES on right now but I'm sure they'll cut in to at leas the 9th inning to see if this happens.

[FezsAssistant]

... and he's six outs away from a no-hitter. I got the Yankees game on YES on right now but I'm sure they'll cut in to at leas the 9th inning to see if this happens.

he's totally gonna do it!

[NickyL0885]

MLB Network is showing the game right now.

[underdog]

You Jinxed It!

[joeyballsack]

It would have been nice, but I will settle for a win to end this slide.

[MacVittie]

You Jinxed It!

Are we men of science, or are we men of superstition?

[FezsAssistant]

You Jinxed It!

i certainly did. enjoy.

[MacVittie]

It would have been nice, but I will settle for a win to end this slide.

Don't rule out a comeback; this A's team is going to be in the World Series this fall.

[TheGameHHH]

why couldnt this go in the red sox thread?

[drjoek]

why couldnt this go in the red sox thread?

Does seem pretty silly in retrospect huh?

[ChrisTheCop]

cause it wouldve been historical due to his age.

[drjoek]

cause it wouldve been historical due to his age.

Hyperbole

[ChrisTheCop]

And he wanted to give baseball fans that otherwise don't read the red sox thread a chance to catch it.

I for one thank him.

[drjoek]

And he wanted to give baseball fans that otherwise don't read the red sox thread a chance to catch it.

I for one thank him.

now thats legit
historical not so much

i listened

XM radio baseball channels rule

[ihaveabadmonkey]

RonFez.net only cares about promoting the Red Sox, Yankees, and Mets and nobody else.

[ChrisTheCop]

Historical due to his age. Only a handful of 40 somethings have accomplished a no no.

Of course. Now that it's over and he didn't make history, I see no problem with a mod throwing it into the red sox thread.
But had he made it, the thread would stand alone.

[TheGameHHH]

Historical due to his age. Only a handful of 40 somethings have accomplished a no no.

Of course. Now that it's over and he didn't make history, I see no problem with a mod throwing it into the red sox thread.
But had he made it, the thread would stand alone.

Had he done it? fine, make the thread. but theres no reason to start a thread about a guy thats throwing a no-no into the 8th innning if theres already a team thread. and all no hitters are historical, doesnt matter if youre 22 or 42

[ChrisTheCop]

again. I appreciated the heads up on this more than I do another person is dead thread.
Would I have found it in the red sox discussion? Yes. But again maybe Yankee or cubs fans might also like to know something exciting is going on as it happens.

[Chimee]

I don't follow the sports discussions on the board so if this wound up in the Red Sox discussion, I never would have read about it, but seeing it as a standalone thread was enough for me to watch the game, something I wouldn't have ended up doing if I hadn't seen this.

[drjoek]

There are ALOT worse threads here

[OGC]

maybe now that it is over it can be merged into the regular Red Sox thread

[cougarjake13]

... and he's six outs away from a no-hitter. I got the Yankees game on YES on right now but I'm sure they'll cut in to at leas the 9th inning to see if this happens.

way to go jinxie

[TheGameHHH]

way to go jinxie

MacHippo?

[MacVittie]

way to go jinxie

I think that 23-minute top of the 8th inning had something to do with it as well.

And, only children and old Italian ladies believe in jinxes.

[cougarjake13]

I think that 23-minute top of the 8th inning had something to do with it as well.

And, only children and old Italian ladies believe in jinxes.




hey alls i know is prior to posting that he was 6 outs away he had a no hitter going

[MacVittie]

hey alls i know is prior to posting that he was 6 outs away he had a no hitter going

correlation does not imply causation

[FezsAssistant]

again. I appreciated the heads up on this more than I do another person is dead thread.
Would I have found it in the red sox discussion? Yes. But again maybe Yankee or cubs fans might also like to know something exciting is going on as it happens.

you must not be much of a fan.

[underdog]

you must not be much of a fan.

I think the same thing every time I see your posts.

[A.J.]

2 years ago Schilling had a no-no going at Oakland into the 9th. They broke that one up too. I had hoped for a reversal of fortune for Wake. I was pulling a Ronnie B when I turned the game on in the 7th by saying "Come on. Let him have this. He's come close so many times and he's been nothing but a class act."

I didn't hear his comments after the game but I'm sure Wake said something to the effect that he was glad to give his team a much-needed win and his bullpen a much-needed rest. That's why Wake is one of my favorites.

[ChrisTheCop]

Actually, Wakefield is quoted as saying, "Take that bitches! I'm on the worst team in baseball and I muthafuckin rule Oaktown!!!" Further stating, "Fuck you Mike Lowell, " referring to the third baseman's error which ended the no hitter for Wakefield. When asked by reporters if it was fundamentals that got him through 7 innings unscathed, he said "Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless." Manager Terry Francona had asked the knuckleballer to sit out the 9th inning. Wakefield replied, "You're fucking out. I'm fucking in!"

Also, DiceK has been placed on the 15 day DL.

[cougarjake13]

2 years ago Schilling had a no-no going at Oakland into the 9th. They broke that one up too. I had hoped for a reversal of fortune for Wake. I was pulling a Ronnie B when I turned the game on in the 7th by saying "Come on. Let him have this. He's come close so many times and he's been nothing but a class act."

I didn't hear his comments after the game but I'm sure Wake said something to the effect that he was glad to give his team a much-needed win and his bullpen a much-needed rest. That's why Wake is one of my favorites.

and to think all those wasted years in pitt

[joeyballsack]

He was only with them for three years and went to the playoffs and won Rookie Pitcher of the Year his first year, so it wasn't all bad in his time there.

[Fallon]

This made me feel good.

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[ChrisTheCop]

I woke up to 1010 wins (nyc) mentioning the red sox over n over. I thought I was dreamin.

1st, the 12 year old in nj who threw a perfect game said he wants to play fo rthe red sox and be like papelbon.

then the captain that was terrorized by the pirates (:dry:) is coming home to a sign that says welcome home, and go red sox!

nice way to start the day. Go SAUX!!

[A.J.]

Holy shit....what a comeback!

And I repeat my earlier point....we took Brad Penny over Derek Lowe because?????

[ChrisTheCop]

A Penny saved is a Penny earned.
And man, did the bats save a Penny last night!

Josh (The Evil) Beckett is back tonight!

Can Clay Buchholz be far behind?

[A.J.]

Youk is on FIRE.

[A.J.]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/rob8598/broom_big.jpg

[ChrisTheCop]

There's a homerun derby going at Fenway.

Green, Youk, Lowell....who's next???

[drjoek]

There's a homerun derby going at Fenway.

Green, Youk, Lowell....who's next???

Why didnt you start a new thread
:innocent:

[ChrisTheCop]

Why didnt you start a new thread
:innocent:

'cuz it's nothin new!

FACE!!

[drjoek]

'cuz it's nothin new!

It would be something new if Big Papi hit a homerun
FACE:tongue:

[ChrisTheCop]

It would be something new if Big Papi hit a homerun
FACE:tongue:

whatsa matter? nothin to talk about in your thread?

oh yeah...I see the score....sorreeeeeee.:lol:

[drjoek]

whatsa matter? nothin to talk about in your thread?

oh yeah...I see the score....sorreeeeeee.:lol:

0-0 is better than 22-4

So I'll take it

edit
ooops spoke too soon

[ChrisTheCop]

0-0 is better than 22-4

So I'll take it

edit
ooops spoke too soon

do NOT look at your tv screen.... I repeat. DO NOT look.

edit: you looked.

[drjoek]

do NOT look at your tv screen.... I repeat. DO NOT look.

edit: you looked.

listening at my desk waiting for the next patient
:sad:

[drjoek]

do NOT look at your tv screen.... I repeat. DO NOT look.

edit: you looked.

ahem:wink:

[ChrisTheCop]

ahem:wink:

Fine, but similar to how many World Series have you won this century,
may I as how many games you won on wednesday? The Sox won TWO!

Wakefield may as well get another complete game credit, as he was the only one to pitch.
He couldve gone 2 more.

2 sweeps in a row, 7 games in a row,

Bring on the artists formerly known as the evil empire!

[A.J.]

Jeff Bailey!

Nice Twin Win!

[ChrisTheCop]

Due to a busy night, I had to listen to this one on the car radio, and only intermittently.

But I saw Youk's homer in the 11th, surrounded by yankee fans in my office.
It was a good night.

I'm not a stat guy, but I always worry when we have extra innings.
My guess would be that we lose most extra inning games we play... any know the stat, say for this century.

What with joba and Youk's history, I thought it was a fitting end.

4 o'clock today bitches!

[ChrisTheCop]

Hmmm... Julio Lugo may join the Sox as early as Monday...

Not sure how I feel about this...what'll happen to Nick Green? He's on fire.

[A.J.]

I'm pissed that I missed that ending. Bay has been solid and Youk has been thriving in the cleanup spot. Manny who?

Looks like Jonathan Van Every is coming back up to cover for Rocco Baldelli.

[Snoogans]

I'm pissed that I missed that ending. Bay has been solid and Youk has been thriving in the cleanup spot. Manny who?

Looks like Jonathan Van Every is coming back up to cover for Rocco Baldelli.

it was great. Especially since I got to mock Kevin during the comeback

[OGC]

Hmmm... Julio Lugo may join the Sox as early as Monday...

Not sure how I feel about this...what'll happen to Nick Green? He's on fire.


I would think that if Green stays hot, they'll just "not rush" Lugo back. As soon as he cools down, Lugo will take over.

[Fallon]

Beckett is not sharp at all today.

[TheGameHHH]

Beckett is not sharp at all today.

cause he's gay......

and probably cause he's starting for me in fantasy today

[Fallon]

Grand Slam from The Captain!!!

[Marc with a c]

super fucking sexy ellsbury

[Snoogans]

Man can he fuckin FLY.

[ChrisTheCop]

Obviously, there were a couple to choose from, this thing is all over the net and espn,
But I picked this one because of the little father-son type moment at the end.

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[hammersavage]

I don't believe it, the jet stole home, the jet stole home!

[A.J.]

That steal of home was amazing. Even John Miller couldn't believe it.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o46/rob8598/broom_big.jpg

[OGC]

That steal of home was amazing. Even John Miller couldn't believe it.




It sounded like his head went into vapor lock. He had no idea what to say.

[A.J.]

Forgot to compliment the excellent job by the rookie relievers. Their work looks promising.

[drjoek]

It sounded like his head went into vapor lock. He had no idea what to say.

Thats not the first time Pettitte has had it happen to him I can't remember the last time but it happened before. maybe a playoff game I think

[TheMojoPin]

Thats not the first time Pettitte has had it happen to him I can't remember the last time but it happened before. maybe a playoff game I think

The last time a steal of home happened in all of baseball it happened on Jeff Goldblum, back in 2007.

[ChrisTheCop]

Another good one going on in Cleveland.

No score after 6. Cliff Lee vs Wakefield.

And the Indians manager got tossed.

[OGC]

Another good one going on in Cleveland.

No score after 6. Cliff Lee vs Wakefield.

And the Indians manager got tossed.


Thanks for ruining it for me, I'm watching it on a DVR delay :glurps: :laugh:

[ChrisTheCop]

Thanks for ruining it for me, I'm watching it on a DVR delay :glurps: :laugh:

and you're checking the thread...why?

well, might as well fast forward. still no change after 7.

Update: 8th inning, both starting pitchers are gone. Great job by both (1 hitter by Wake, I think)...now maybe we'll see some scoring.

[OGC]

and you're checking the thread...why?

well, might as well fast forward. still no change after 7.

Of course you are right. I mistakenly clicked on the thread.

I have caught up now and am watching the top of the 9th.

[ChrisTheCop]

Of course you are right.

Dont let anyone know. I have a reputation to uphold around here.

[ChrisTheCop]

I'd like to see Mike Lowell steal home.

[ChrisTheCop]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEELevennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[A.J.]

Wake shines again. JayBay goes yard!

[jessicaduh]

Dear Boston,

You're welcome for Jason Bay. Now send me some Sam Adams. i've had enough Yuengling.

Signed,
Pittsburgh.

[OGC]

It's not hard to see who has the early lead for being the whipping boy for the Red Sox this year. Brad Penny hasn't done much to impress.

edit: although I think Lugo is going to be close.

[Fallon]

Nice catch dick!!!

:flush:

[A.J.]

And I repeat my earlier point....we took Brad Penny over Derek Lowe because?????

This bears repeating. Penny got lucky the first 2 games because he was saved by the bats and the bullpen. This time they just missed out again.

He's like Gagne all over again. Bring up Smoltz or Buchholz.

[drjoek]

So I clicked over to NESN while the Yankees were between innings. Do they have to mention every time that John Lester had cancer? Christ STOP milking this already. He beat cancer he DIDN'T cure cancer.

[TheMojoPin]

That steal of home was amazing. Even John Miller couldn't believe it.

I'm sorry, I know this is old, but I keep seeing it at the top of the page.

The steal was amazing, but is it really impressive that it amazed "even John Miller?"

John Miller is a old idiot.

He's probably amazed when Joe Morgan doesn't strangle himself with his mic cord.

[drjoek]

I'm sorry, I know this is old, but I keep seeing it at the top of the page.

The steal was amazing, but is it really impressive that it amazed "even John Miller?"

John Miller is a old idiot.

He's probably amazed when Joe Morgan doesn't strangle himself with his mic cord.



John takes a paycheck from the world wide leader.Boston Red Sox central. I know I'm a NYY homer but ESPN loves the Sox

[TheMojoPin]

John takes a paycheck from the world wide leader.Boston Red Sox central. I know I'm a NYY homer but ESPN loves the Sox

I don't even care about that. He's awful regardless of who he roots for.

[Snoogans]

John takes a paycheck from the world wide leader.Boston Red Sox central. I know I'm a NYY homer but ESPN loves the Sox

I don't even care about that. He's awful regardless of who he roots for.

as a sox fan, Dr Joe is completely correct.

And as a human, Mojo is completely correct.

I would love to see Joe Morgan and Jon Miller in a tag match to the death with Tim McCarver and Joe Buck. Whoever wins has to fight each other to the death. Whoever wins that gets shot in the throat

[underdog]

So I clicked over to NESN while the Yankees were between innings. Do they have to mention every time that John Lester had cancer? Christ STOP milking this already. He beat cancer he DIDN'T cure cancer.

You have no idea how sick Red Sox fans are hearing about it.

Every pitch last year mentioned cancer.

John takes a paycheck from the world wide leader.Boston Red Sox central. I know I'm a NYY homer but ESPN loves the Sox

ESPN loves the Red Sox and Yankees pretty evenly. If anything minuscule happens to either team, it's lead the hour off news.

[ChrisTheCop]

So I clicked over to NESN while the Yankees were between innings. Do they have to mention every time that John Lester had cancer? Christ STOP milking this already. He beat cancer he DIDN'T cure cancer.

It's NOT just nesn, my friend. This is from last year, I cant recall if it's Fox, espn or tbs:

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg39/rfcop/th_mail.jpg

I had asked the question then, how does that help a batter?

Anywhoo...nice win in extree innings tonight...a new streak begins...

[ChrisTheCop]

Last place Tampa Bay Devils tonight!

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