2009 Boston Red Sox Discussion :(

[Fallon]

Sox are on fire, if it wasn't for that drop by Lopez this could have been an amazing streak.


Posted these in the HCPG thread earlier in the week, but Heidi deserves to be in this thread.

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[A.J.]

I'm sorry, I know this is old, but I keep seeing it at the top of the page.

The steal was amazing, but is it really impressive that it amazed "even John Miller?"

John Miller is a old idiot.

He's probably amazed when Joe Morgan doesn't strangle himself with his mic cord.

I just meant that his reaction was one of surprise like the rest of us: like, "holy shit did that just happen?".

[A.J.]

Lester's shaky start concerned me but I love the way this team keeps fighting back. It was nice to see them pull it off last night after almost doing so the game before where Penny shit the bed.

[joeyballsack]

I got a chance to see Daniel Bard pitch last night. He was consistently hitting 95-96 and racked up 4 K's in a couple of relief innings and looks like he could be the next big thing out of the Sox minor leagues.

[drjoek]

Rays Garza perfect through 6 vs Sox

[epo]

Rays Garza perfect through 6 vs Sox

You no etiquette having motherfucker!

[razorboy]

Rays Garza perfect through 6 vs Sox

You sonuvabitch!





And when Garza is on, he's fucking filthy. He has five plus pitches.

[A.J.]

Nice job by our "Ace".

It's great to see the tables have turned and the Rays now own the Sox.

[joeyballsack]

Ortiz looks like Big Papi tonight. I hope this is the end of the slump for him.

[joeyballsack]

The deepest bullpen in MLB and Tito is using Papelbon for a 5 out save ?

I don't like it.

[Fallon]

The deepest bullpen in MLB and Tito is using Papelbon for a 5 out save ?

I don't like it.

It worked out.

Wooo!

[A.J.]

I can find a pig roast here easier than I can a baseball score.

[ChrisTheCop]

mmmmBack to back nnnand Belly to Bellyyyyyyyyy!

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[OGC]

Sad news for Red Sox fans. (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090506&content_id=4589044&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos&partnerId=rss_bos) Jerry Remy is taking an indefinite leave of absence so that he can focus on recovering from cancer surgery late last year.

Hurry back RemDawg.

[A.J.]

Sad news for Red Sox fans. (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090506&content_id=4589044&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos&partnerId=rss_bos) Jerry Remy is taking an indefinite leave of absence so that he can focus on recovering from cancer surgery late last year.

Hurry back RemDawg.

So THAT'S why Buck Martinez was on NESN instead of doing O's games.

Poor RemDawg. I hope he makes a fully recovery soonest.

[Fallon]

That sucks. They've been using different guys for the games, former players and newspaper writers. It's really been unwatchable.

Miss Remdog.

[razorboy]

I just thought you guys might like this.

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[Fallon]

I just thought you guys might like this.

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You were mistaken.

[drjoek]

Sad news for Red Sox fans. (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090506&content_id=4589044&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos&partnerId=rss_bos) Jerry Remy is taking an indefinite leave of absence so that he can focus on recovering from cancer surgery late last year.

Hurry back RemDawg.

Remy has always given me a headache when I listen to the Sox but that does suck!

[A.J.]

Remy has always given me a headache when I listen to the Sox

Yeah, he's no Suzyn Waldman.

[drjoek]

Yeah, he's no Suzyn Waldman.

Suzyn Waldman is an atrocity.

[TjM]

That sucks. They've been using different guys for the games, former players and newspaper writers. It's really been unwatchable.

Miss Remdog.

I thought Buck was good and so was Eck

[ChrisTheCop]

He better be back in time for the ALCS and World Series, if not sooner!
Get well RemDawg!!!
http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesplayers/jerry-remy.jpg

Meanwhile... since no one can really replace Remy, unless Jim Rice can be dragged out of The Cask and Flagon, lets promote Heidi for a few lovely months.

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Watney has a posse.

[ChrisTheCop]

R.I.P. Dom DiMaggio. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090508&content_id=4623958&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)

I havent read an actual book in awhile... I think I may pick up Teammates.

[A.J.]

I woke up early this morning delighted to see that there was not only a baseball game but it was the Sox game. My joy turned to anger as I saw Jon Lester get rocked for 8 runs.

[A.J.]

Got to see some of the Sox-Angels early this morning. Nice comeback!

[Fallon]

Got to see some of the Sox-Angels early this morning. Nice comeback!

NESN said something along the lines of the Angels have the best starting pitching ERA and the worst bullpen ERA in the league.

It was proven last night.

Shoulda kept K-Rod.

[ChrisTheCop]

...uhh... I posted something here that really belonged in the manny thread... so I moved it.

Nothing to say here other than nice rbi captain v!!!

[A.J.]

I don't know why Wake keeps sucking in Anaheim.

[A.J.]

It's time to drop Papi to the bottom of the lineup. This is getting embarrassing.

[joeyballsack]

It's time to drop Papi to the bottom of the lineup. This is getting embarrassing.

I dont know..I understand your thinking but its just piling on.

I still think he is going to pull out of this horrible slump at some point. As long as they are still winning consistently I would leave him right where he is in the lineup.

[ChrisTheCop]

I dont know..I understand your thinking but its just piling on.

I still think he is going to pull out of this horrible slump at some point. As long as they are still winning consistently I would leave him right where he is in the lineup.

Agreed. Of course we were all hoping he'd hit a grand slam last night and be back, he didnt. And neither would anyone else in the lineup....maybe. But Francona has a history of allowing players the time they need to snap out of it; Cant think of a better player with whom to continue that tradition.

[A.J.]

God this West Coast trip sucks.

[joeyballsack]

Tim Wakefield is the team pitching MVP so far this year.

So money.

[A.J.]

Tim Wakefield is the team pitching MVP so far this year.

So money.

Wake has been the unspoken MVP for years. He's not always perfect, but he's always reliable.

[joeyballsack]

Big Papi breaks the HR'less streak and the rest of the team piles on in celebration.

[ChrisTheCop]

Big Papi breaks the HR'less streak and the rest of the team piles on in celebration.

Due to work, I was unable to listen or watch, and I didnt tivo the game,
but I was sooo happy to see that. I know one homer means very little, but
thats the one he needed.

And its no wonder Desmond loves Penny.

[ChrisTheCop]

DiceK v Santana tonight.

I know I should be worried, but I'm experiencing an eerie calm.

[Fallon]

First place.

Yeeeeeeeah boooooy!!!

[ChrisTheCop]

Youk actually hit two homers today.

Imagine if that first one was hit by Big Papi; he actually hits his second homerun, but they call it foul! Awful.... luckily we didnt need it.

[drjoek]

A question not meant to incite trouble
What do Red Sox think of Youkilis ? Im sure you love him because he hits all the time but he seems to be an insuferable douche bag to the outside obvoiusly Im biased as a Yankee fan but he seems like he would even drive his own teammates nuts. I know he mixed it up with Manny one time.
Again Im not trying to stir up shit Im just asking out of curiosity

[underdog]

A question not meant to incite trouble
What do Red Sox think of Youkilis ? Im sure you love him because he hits all the time but he seems to be an insuferable douche bag to the outside obvoiusly Im biased as a Yankee fan but he seems like he would even drive his own teammates nuts. I know he mixed it up with Manny one time.
Again Im not trying to stir up shit Im just asking out of curiosity

Youk is really, really hard on himself. He's such a perfectionist that if he doesn't hit 1.000, he's pissed. That's what makes him such a great ball player. But it does look douchy when he's pissed in the dugout all the time. But I don't really care.

[lleeder]

Youk is really, really hard on himself. He's such a perfectionist that if he doesn't hit 1.000, he's pissed. That's what makes him such a great ball player. But it does look douchy when he's pissed in the dugout all the time. But I don't really care.

I disagree, I think its the facial hair that makes him look douchey.

[underdog]

I disagree, I think its the facial hair that makes him look douchey.

That too. And his whiteness.

[joeyballsack]

If he keeps hitting close to .400, he can grow a ZZ Topp beard and beat a child on the field as far as I am concerned.

[Fallon]

Youk is really, really hard on himself. He's such a perfectionist that if he doesn't hit 1.000, he's pissed. That's what makes him such a great ball player. But it does look douchy when he's pissed in the dugout all the time. But I don't really care.

He's a great actor too.

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[A.J.]

A question not meant to incite trouble
What do Red Sox think of Youkilis ? Im sure you love him because he hits all the time but he seems to be an insuferable douche bag to the outside obvoiusly Im biased as a Yankee fan but he seems like he would even drive his own teammates nuts. I know he mixed it up with Manny one time.
Again Im not trying to stir up shit Im just asking out of curiosity

He plays hard and plays to win. You can't fault that.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yep. If beating himself up every time he doesnt get a hit helps him drive in some runs the next time, I'm all for it. And yeah, he was the only one willing to put Manny in his place toward the end there.

He's got one of the best eyes in the game, and of all players, I have the least problem with him questioning the umps.

Especially Sunday afternoon when he returned from the clubhouse to see his foul ball really was a homerun like he thought.

Ortiz on the other hand, has become uncomfortably comical when questioning umps calls.
It's getting really heartbreaking.

[OGC]

What's not to love about him ? He plays the game it is meant to be played.

I think the emotional displays in the dugout are a lot calmer this year but they are just highlighted by the media because it makes for good tv.

By the way, I only saw a couple of the replays but I didn't see anything to be able to say if the ball was fair or foul. Yeah one of the views looked inside the foul pole but that could well have been a matter of the camera angle.

[ChrisTheCop]

wtf is varitek wearing? is he playing operation desert storm?

[OGC]

wtf is varitek wearing? is he playing operation desert storm?


Aren't you listening ? You can OWN that piece of memorabilia once the game is over. :smile:

[ChrisTheCop]

Aren't you listening ? You can OWN that piece of memorabilia once the game is over. :smile:

No...I'm watching on nesn, and they havent mentioned it since the first pitch.
Whats the dilly-o? I would think it's a little distracting to Penny; I hope he had some say.

[ChrisTheCop]

Papi will bat 6th tonight.
I'm guessing after JD Drew.

[BillySolHarg]

It's a shame as to what's happened to big Papi. Maybe he'll lay down some bunts, tonight.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Papi will bat 6th tonight.
I'm guessing after JD Drew.

For what he's given Boston I don't care if he never gets another hit. He's mostlikely done.

[underdog]

For what he's given Boston I don't care if he never gets another hit. He's mostlikely done.

It's not good. He's lost confidence, bat speed, and any timing he once had.

[ChrisTheCop]

Papi went 1 for 3 last night, hitting a double in the 2nd inning, and walking once.
That mustve felt good... but he didnt come home.

Francona is saying he's looking better every day at batting practice and it's only a matter of time until he starts hitting again.

[ChrisTheCop]

Watching the toronto feed today, sadly.
their announcers remind me of the characters @ the beginning of Les Miserables;
so full of hope, promise, but we know how it's gonna end.

Foreshadow: at the end of Boston's first inning: "and there's the third oot, end of the inning with no damage done....except for that one homerun from Youkilis. Boston leads 1-0." :lol:

[ChrisTheCop]

mmmback to back...nnnnbelly to bellyyyy!!!!!!

(youk hits his second homah of the day and bay follows him with anothah.)

[A.J.]

Nice to see Lester return to form.....finally.

[ChrisTheCop]

Nice to see Lester return to form.....finally.

and, a big congrats to the toronto announcers...I didnt notice them even once saying the word cancer.

[A.J.]

and, a big congrats to the toronto announcers...I didnt notice them even once saying the word cancer.

Unless they were talking about Papi being in the lineup. Then it would be justified.

[ChrisTheCop]

Unless they were talking about Papi being in the lineup. Then it would be justified.

He hit a double and saw homeplate thanks to Pedroia.

Must be in remission.

[A.J.]

He hit a double and saw homeplate thanks to Pedroia.

Must be in remission.

Thank you Jimmy Fund.

[ChrisTheCop]

nice 6 game hitting streak by Ortiz.

and he tried to steal 2nd base. lol.

baby steps.

[JimmieHats]

Next Yanks series starts today, kiddies. Burnett vs Beckett, Wang vs Wakefield, Sabathia vs Penny.


I'll be seeing the Sox down in Philly Fridee and Saturdee, Lester and Dice-K starts.

Let's go Sox!!!

[TjM]

What are the odds they even play tonight. It's very shitty out today

[JimmieHats]

Today
6/9/2009

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At 1 PM...showers likely. Temperature around 57. East winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. At 3 PM...cloudy with a chance of showers. Temperature around 55. East winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. At 5 PM...cloudy with a chance of showers with isolated thunderstorms. Temperature around 54. East winds around 10 mph.

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Hi: 59°

Showers likely this morning...then showers with isolated thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 80 percent.

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Lo: 52°

Cloudy. A chance of showers with areas of drizzle. Areas of fog. Near steady temperature in the lower 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.



Wednesday
6/10/2009

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Hi: 59°

Cloudy with a chance of showers with areas of drizzle. Areas of fog in the morning. Highs around 60. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.

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Lo: 58°

Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Near steady temperature in the upper 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.




Thursday
6/11/2009

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Hi: 63°

Showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.

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Lo: 57°

Showers likely. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Chance of rain 70 percent.

[ChrisTheCop]

George Steinbrenner and his amazing weather controlling machine strike again!

[ChrisTheCop]

Thankfully, Jerry Remy's prayers beat Steinbrenner's machine, and we were able to play.

I'd like to see Papi hit a homer every game of this series.

And my childhood friend Abby has told me that Wakefield will kill again.

[ChrisTheCop]

..are we not posting here for fear of jinxing it?

Tonight, I'm worried. Sabathia v Penny.

Were they shouting "you use steroids" at gayrod? hilarious.
It was so loud, the yes announcer had to mention it. lol.

ok, we've won the series...let's go for the sweep...AGAIN!

[ChrisTheCop]

espn also made note of it.
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[drjoek]

espn also made note of it.
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Not exactly a surprise there. ESPN are all RS homers.
Christ Gammons is a season ticket holder.

[ChrisTheCop]

I've noted that twitter and facebook yankee fans are all so silent,,,nice to see YOU Doc!

The only problem with your post is they mentioned it on Yes as well.

[drjoek]

I've noted that twitter and facebook yankee fans are all so silent,,,nice to see YOU Doc!

The only problem with your post is they mentioned it on Yes as well.



Yes I heard that too. A Rod hasn't taken much shit so far. Plus he seems unaffected anyway
Must be all the Kate Hudson pussy he's getting

[ChrisTheCop]

Kate Hudson had a sex change?

[brettmojo]

Not exactly a surprise there. ESPN are all RS homers.
Christ Gammons is a season ticket holder.
It was funny on sportscenter today. They did one of those "Let's get each club's perspective thing" They went to a Yankee beat writer to as him if the pressure was on CC for tonight. It was some guy no one has ever heard of from some Journal no one has ever heard from. They let him say one sentence and that was it. Then they went to a Red Sox beat writer from the Boston Herald, gave him a graphic with his picture and everything and let the guy a dissertation on why the Red Sox are so awesome.

[underdog]

Not exactly a surprise there. ESPN are all RS homers.
Christ Gammons is a season ticket holder.

They're just northeast homers. Yankees and Red Sox. Stop acting like the Red Sox and Yankees are treated any differently on that channel.

[ChrisTheCop]

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http://www.mcnblogs.com/mcindie/archives/images/VS.jpg

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[brettmojo]

They're just northeast homers. Yankees and Red Sox. Stop acting like the Red Sox and Yankees are treated any differently on that channel.
Ok underarockdog.

[underdog]

It was funny on sportscenter today. They did one of those "Let's get each club's perspective thing" They went to a Yankee beat writer to as him if the pressure was on CC for tonight. It was some guy no one has ever heard of from some Journal no one has ever heard from. They let him say one sentence and that was it. Then they went to a Red Sox beat writer from the Boston Herald, gave him a graphic with his picture and everything and let the guy a dissertation on why the Red Sox are so awesome.

You act like The Boston Herald is a good paper.

If they had used The Boston Globe or something, you might have a point.

[underdog]

Ok underarockdog.

You Yankee homers are so bad. You're like a mini-BDC when it comes to the Yankees.

Ask anyone outside of the northeast about ESPN. They'll tell you that its biased towards the northeast.

[drjoek]

They're just northeast homers. Yankees and Red Sox. Stop acting like the Red Sox and Yankees are treated any differently on that channel.



I disagree partly. Yankees and Red Sox get TONS of play on ESPN. RS plenty of positive spin Yankees they go out of their way to point out negativity. Take a listen to anyone of the announcers

[ChrisTheCop]

Please move any bitching about the yankees not getting praised enough anymore into the proper forum. Thank you.

[TjM]

You act like The Boston Herald is a good paper.

If they had used The Boston Globe or something, you might have a point.

They both stink.

[drjoek]

Please move any bitching about the yankees not getting praised enough anymore into the proper forum. Thank you.



:lol:
Were Yankee fans we are the Evil Empire EVERY thread is ours.
(Evil laugh mode on)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(Mode off)

[underdog]

I disagree partly. Yankees and Red Sox get TONS of play on ESPN. RS plenty of positive spin Yankees they go out of their way to point out negativity. Take a listen to anyone of the announcers

I can buy that. The Yankees are the "evil" team and the Red Sox are still viewed as the underdog.

I also think its just easier (and lazier) to point out the negativity of the Yankees. Bigger market, bigger payroll, bigger players.

[Fallon]

Big Papi! He's coming along.

[ChrisTheCop]

Big Papi! He's coming along.

I was kinda hoping that would be the final score. 1-0.

So that Papi could enjoy his contribution that much more, but in the end, we did win by just that one run...so thank you Big Papi!!!

Now onto Philly... Dunno much about them other than theyre doing well.
Should be fun.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I disagree partly. Yankees and Red Sox get TONS of play on ESPN. RS plenty of positive spin Yankees they go out of their way to point out negativity. Take a listen to anyone of the announcers

Thats because you suck. What do you want to hear? Your bullpen is the bees knees? Your best hitter is clutch when it matters? Your new park is a pitchers park? If I want to hear that listen to Kay or Moskowicz.

[A.J.]

I can't wait to watch baseball again next week.

[A.J.]

Yes! They showed the reply of last night's 13 inning win -- and the NESN feed no less! Miss hearing the RemDawg though.

It was also great seeing Bard pitch for the first time. The kid looks promising.

[K.C.]

Yes! They showed the reply of last night's 13 inning win -- and the NESN feed no less! Miss hearing the RemDawg though.

It was also great seeing Bard pitch for the first time. The kid looks promising.

The Red Sox got a colossal break last night, though.

That game was over....Dobbs' ball was a home run.

I don't know how they don't review that.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yes! They showed the reply of last night's 13 inning win -- and the NESN feed no less! Miss hearing the RemDawg though.

.

Very Cool! Was it scheduled, or you just happened across it? What a find! I'm happy for you. I had to listen on my Iphone, and only in parts.

[drjoek]

Nice to see that the Red Sox owner John Henry has taken the asshole mantle away from the Yankees ownership.
A billionaire sports owner that twitters about "The MT Curse" about Mark Texiera.
What a douche bag.

[OGC]

Nice to see that the Red Sox owner John Henry has taken the asshole mantle away from the Yankees ownership.
A billionaire sports owner that twitters about "The MT Curse" about Mark Texiera.
What a douche bag.


I have to agree with you. Why can't these guys keep their mouths shut.

Sit back, open your wallet, and shut up.

[joeyballsack]

Nice to see that the Red Sox owner John Henry has taken the asshole mantle away from the Yankees ownership.
A billionaire sports owner that twitters about "The MT Curse" about Mark Texiera.
What a douche bag.

They are still years and years away from taking that title from the Yankees.

[Dan 'Hampton]

The Red Sox got a colossal break last night, though.

That game was over....Dobbs' ball was a home run.

I don't know how they don't review that.

Looked alot like the one in Fenway earlier this year that Youk hit. That one was reviewed and eventhough it tailed in to the fair area of the monster seats it was ruled foul.

[A.J.]

Very Cool! Was it scheduled, or you just happened across it? What a find! I'm happy for you. I had to listen on my Iphone, and only in parts.

No, I just happened across it. The hotel has a FOX sports channel but they rarely show baseball on there.

Nice to see that the Red Sox owner John Henry has taken the asshole mantle away from the Yankees ownership.
A billionaire sports owner that twitters about "The MT Curse" about Mark Texiera.
What a douche bag.

I liked him better when he was known as the owner who never talked.

He's got a long way to go to reach Steinbrennerian proportions however.

[K.C.]

Looked alot like the one in Fenway earlier this year that Youk hit. That one was reviewed and eventhough it tailed in to the fair area of the monster seats it was ruled foul.

It's hard to imagine, after looking at the replay a bunch of times, the Dobbs ball hitting where it did without hooking over the foul poll, if you look at the trajectory of it. It's not going to suddenly slice more at the very end.

How do they not have a camera that tracks it down the line, and a camera perpendicular to determine if it goes behind or in front of the poll, if MLB is serious about instant replay?

Oh well...they crushed the Phils last night so I can't complain about that one.

[TripleSkeet]

You Yankee homers are so bad. You're like a mini-BDC when it comes to the Yankees.

Ask anyone outside of the northeast about ESPN. They'll tell you that its biased towards the northeast.

Thats because the Northeast is the most important part of this country hayseed. LOL


In other news, just scored myself a free ticket to the game today. Fuck you Red Sox.

[ChrisTheCop]

5th inning, 4-1 Red Sox, by the end of the inning, Phillies were ahead 5-4.

Awfully frustrating inning for Josh Beckett.

First man to bat in the 6th, Josh Beckett, and how does he take out that frustration??

HOME RUN BECKETT!!!!!!! (first pitch)

Tie game.

[A.J.]

Yes! Another NESN reply of last night's win aganst the Marlins! I only got to see the first couple of innings before work.

Tim Wakefield, looking strong. He deserves his first-ever All-Star bid.

[A.J.]

I had heard Dice-K was sucking it up his last couple of starts and last night I got to see it for myself.

Nice job.

[A.J.]

Vintage Beckett last night. CG and the shutout!

[Fallon]

I had heard Dice-K was sucking it up his last couple of starts and last night I got to see it for myself.

Nice job.

He has a "tired arm" again. Defiantly not worth the investment.

[A.J.]

He has a "tired arm" again. Defiantly not worth the investment.

It's that fucking WBC. He came to camp all shot from that thing.

[A.J.]

FINALLY, after 5 years the Sox have come to town! I went to the game last night and I'm going back tonight.

The Nats had a record breaking crowd last night -- and it was all Sox fans.

Ellsbury was sick last night and I really enjoy watching Jason Bay work a 1-2 count into a solo shot.

[Fezticle98]

FINALLY, after 5 years the Sox have come to town! I went to the game last night and I'm going back tonight.

The Nats had a record breaking crowd last night -- and it was all Sox fans.

Ellsbury was sick last night and I really enjoy watching Jason Bay work a 1-2 count into a solo shot.

It's amazing seeing all the people just walking around town with Sox gear. Sure, many of them are newer fans to the team, but still.

Enjoy the game tonight. I am sitting a couple sections over from Ben's Chili Bowl. Hope you aren't downwind.

[A.J.]

It's amazing seeing all the people just walking around town with Sox gear. Sure, many of them are newer fans to the team, but still.

Enjoy the game tonight. I am sitting a couple sections over from Ben's Chili Bowl. Hope you aren't downwind.

Walking into the park from the Metro was like being on Yawkey Way.

[A.J.]

Another record crowd at Nationals Park thanks to Red Sox Nation! Papi and Tek go yard. Good times!

[Fallon]

How do you go into a rain delay up 9-1 and lose 11-10?

WTF?

[Kevin]

I was looking at Bays stats on gamecast. Boy has he come back down to earth.. He is at 266 now and has been stuck on 19hrs for the longest.

[Kevin]

He has a "tired arm" again. Defiantly not worth the investment.

It's that fucking WBC. He came to camp all shot from that thing.

They are saying its the WBC and that he refuses to go to Sox offseason strength training..

His excuse.. Japanese shoulders are diff from American shoulders...:huh:

[Fallon]

I was looking at Bays stats on gamecast. Boy has he come back down to earth.. He is at 266 now and has been stuck on 19hrs for the longest.

He still had 20RBI in June and leads the AL.

Sox need to sign him to a deal soon. I'm sick of hearing about it.

[A.J.]

How do you go into a rain delay up 9-1 and lose 11-10?

WTF?

Yeah, that was fun to watch. But the O's have been battling back all year long. I'm impressed with what Dave Trembley is doing with them. He's trying to mold them after the Rays.

[A.J.]

And a comeback for the Sox!

Congrats to Jonathan Papelbon for becoming the Red Sox all-time saves leader!

[ChrisTheCop]

Congrats to Jason Bay, Official American as of 7/2/09
with a perfect score on his citizenship exam.

[A.J.]

Congratulations to Tim Wakefield for finally getting his first All-Star selection!

SIX SELECTED TO 2009 ALL-STAR GAME
Fans selected Jason Bay (OF) and Dustin Pedroia (2B) to start the 2009 All-Star Game. This marks Bay's third All-Star appearance and Pedroia's second. Also selected to represent the Red Sox are Josh Beckett (P), Jonathan Papelbon (P), Kevin Youkilis (1B), and Tim Wakefield (P).

[ChrisTheCop]

Nomar's back in town, and gets emotional while talking about his time there.

Also, Dustin Pedroia leaves Fenway tonight after batting practice, will not be in lineup, due to an as yet undisclosed personal matter...I hope everything's ok family wise, and every wise.

Read about both items here. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/)

edit: Someone is reporting it's Pedroia's kid's 1st birthday, so hopefully thats all it is..and happy birthday to the toddlah!

[ChrisTheCop]

Nomar led off in the 2nd inning, and was met with an almost unending standing ovation!

Red Sox fans remain the classiest group in sports.

We miss you Nomar, and thank you for your part in that glorious 2004 season,
and everything else!!!

He said in an interview today that he'd like to end his career in Boston...someday.

[cougarjake13]

Nomar led off in the 2nd inning, and was met with an almost unending standing ovation!

Red Sox fans remain the classiest group in sports.

We miss you Nomar, and thank you for your part in that glorious 2004 season,
and everything else!!!

He said in an interview today that he'd like to end his career in Boston...someday.



well if i remember correctly he didnt want to be traded and has never said anything bad about the organization so why would fans hate him

[TheMojoPin]

Red Sox fans remain the classiest group in sports.

Now THAT is fucking funny.

[ChrisTheCop]

well if i remember correctly he didnt want to be traded and has never said anything bad about the organization so why would fans hate him

We don't. That's the pernt.

[ChrisTheCop]

Now THAT is fucking funny.

Please explain yourself.

[TheMojoPin]

Declaring any fanbase to be the "classiest in sports" is hysterical.

[ChrisTheCop]

Oh. Well forgive my faux pas.

They're just extremely classy. Better?

[TheMojoPin]

I think we'd be hard pressed to find any American sports fanbase that is actually "classy."

I mean, what fanbase DOESN'T applaud a beloved who didn't leave under ugly circumstances player that returns down the line?

Shit, if that's the criteria for "classy," then maybe the Cardinals' fans are "the best in baseball." Those freaks give every former player a standing ovation no matter how shitty or how they left.

[Sinestro]

Declaring any fanbase to be the "classiest in sports" is hysterical.

Polo fans are classy.

[ChrisTheCop]

I just enjoyed the way the fans welcomed him back to the park after 5 years,
is that so wrong?

Let's keep the negativity in your team threads, where it belongs.

The Sox lost today, and I still love them.

[TheMojoPin]

I just enjoyed the way the fans welcomed him back to the park after 5 years,
is that so wrong?

YES.

Your enjoyment is bad and wrong and you are terrible for feeling it.

[sailor]

Also, Dustin Pedroia leaves Fenway tonight after batting practice, will not be in lineup, due to an as yet undisclosed personal matter...I hope everything's ok family wise, and every wise.

Read about both items here. (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/)

edit: Someone is reporting it's Pedroia's kid's 1st birthday, so hopefully thats all it is..and happy birthday to the toddlah!

has his brother gone on trial yet?

[brettmojo]

Please explain yourself.
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[ChrisTheCop]

first, I asked mojo to explain himSELF, which he did, but ok
Brett mojo wants to explain mojo, if mojo's ok with that I dont see a problem.

Now. Are these supposed to be incidents of Red Sox fans not being classy?

Lets see....

1. A lone Red Sox fan in a sea of Orange clad Oriole fans is taunted and threatened,
and defends himself... class is not devoid of honor, nor self-preservation.
2. I'll admit it aint pretty, but it aint L.A. And if NYY ever win again, I bet you'll
get some similar reactions.
3. How is this without class? If you mean the man at the plate, or the fans back home
who welcomed him back, perhaps, but this is supposed to be about the Sox fans,
who are merely stating a fact. And, it was pretty humorous.
4. Talk about humor! This is on the NESN highlight reel for Remy and Orsillo!
It's hilarious, and it's stated the perpetrator was a pat's fan... not a sox fan.

I'm sure mojo appreciates the attempt, but he did much better by himself, as himself.

[ChrisTheCop]

has his brother gone on trial yet?

I dunno. But these are the kind of charges that sometimes lead to...bad things,
so yeah...those bad things popped into my head when I heard he left suddenly.

It's strange to me that he'd attend batting practice if he knew he was gonna have a family day... but maybe that's what happened.

[The Happening]

The standard for "class" sure has been lowered over the years.

[A.J.]

It was cool to see Nomar get that ovation. It'll be the same for the rest of the series I think.

On to other matters: Smoltz looked like shit last night and they are going to lose their control of first place in the AL East.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Pedroia's first kid is due in a month. Wife went to hospital yesterday. He went with her, then went to the park. Tito told him to go be with her.- ProJo.

[ChrisTheCop]

Pedroia's first kid is due in a month. Wife went to hospital yesterday. He went with her, then went to the park. Tito told him to go be with her.- ProJo.

Terry Francona is, dare I say, class personified.


and easy there AJ, youre beginning to sound like DrZ.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Terry Francona is, dare I say, class personified.


and easy there AJ, youre beginning to sound like DrZ.

Word. He's not like that back up douchebag banning ice cream from the dugout. Where did that get you jackass?

[A.J.]

Way to blow a lead...and first place.

[ChrisTheCop]

Way to blow a lead...and first place.

DrZ, DrZ, we're still in first place, see????

[Kevin]

How are you tied with a team you are 8-0 agaist?

[ChrisTheCop]

How are you tied with a team you are 8-0 agaist?

Agreed. I'd much rather play the yankers the rest of the season.
Then we could rest easy.

[drjoek]

Agreed. I'd much rather play the yankers the rest of the season.
Then we could rest easy.

Feeling pretty strong for a team that just gave back 5 games to us in the standings and lost to the Royals:tongue:

[sailor]

How are you tied with a team you are 8-0 agaist?

amazing that yankees have winning record against every other team, while boston is split or losing with 6 teams.

ok, the yankees have split with tampa so far.

[ChrisTheCop]

Ok, we dont mind sharing first place with you for a night here and there,
but go back to your thread. It's getting stuffy in here.

And now Joey will ask a great question...
for the yanker thread!

[joeyballsack]

amazing that yankees have winning record against every other team, while boston is split or losing with 6 teams.

ok, the yankees have split with tampa so far.


Have the Yanks made a west coast road trip other than the one they are now on ?

[sailor]

Have the Yanks made a west coast road trip other than the one they are now on ?

good point, no. boston played 12 games over 2 trips.

[A.J.]

I actually thought they were going to blow a 9-0 lead. Nice job Masterson!

[ChrisTheCop]

where are all the yankee visitors today? lol.

Boston Red Sox have owned the first half.

[ChrisTheCop]

Good day game thus far.

Forgot to mention, 2 games ago I believe, I was listening to The radio feed via the Iphone mlb app, and Bill Cosby sat in as a guest during the game with Joe Castiglione.

He was funny, topical, knowledgeable about baseball, and supposedly a red sox fan,
although he didnt know many of the new players. I was just surprised that I enjoyed his
visit as much as I did.

[ChrisTheCop]

Josh Becket's 100th win!!!

Shuts out KC (3 hitter) completing the game with only 94 pitches.:clap:

[A.J.]

Nice finish to the first half of the season! I think Beckett's last outing or the one before it was also a CG shutout.

[ChrisTheCop]

Dustin Pedroia will not attend the All-Star game, due to his wife's hospitalization.

Probably the right decision for him, although he'll be missed for sure.

[cougarjake13]

Josh Becket's 100th win!!!

Shuts out KC (3 hitter) completing the game with only 94 pitches.:clap:



100 wins at 29 in 8.5 mlb seasons, averaging 11.76 wins a year



do you like his chances for 300 wins ??

if he gets 15 wins a year over the next ten that'll put him at 250 at age 39

i know he has some injury concerns

what say you ??

[ChrisTheCop]

Love the guy, but if you wanted to bet, I'd take the action.

Maybe 100 more.

[ChrisTheCop]

Wow. I just ventured into the yanker thread to congratulate their players on making the AL team and to wish that team good luck...

They are NOT happy about being 3 games behind.

No matter how hard I tried, I could not get them to focus on baseball.

Oh well. It's good to be back. I think I'll just stay in here for a bit.

[Fallon]

Wow. I just ventured into the yanker thread to congratulate their players on making the AL team and to wish that team good luck...
Class personified.

[joeyballsack]

100 wins at 29 in 8.5 mlb seasons, averaging 11.76 wins a year



do you like his chances for 300 wins ??

if he gets 15 wins a year over the next ten that'll put him at 250 at age 39

i know he has some injury concerns

what say you ??

This guy has it broken down pretty well and it doesn't look good for Beckett with his #'s.

http://redsoxdiary.blogspot.com/2009/07/will-josh-beckett-win-300-games.html#links

[cougarjake13]

This guy has it broken down pretty well and it doesn't look good for Beckett with his #'s.

http://redsoxdiary.blogspot.com/2009/07/will-josh-beckett-win-300-games.html#links

yeh but based on his numbers if he has a productive next ten years he'll get close, and im sure he'll stick around to get the extra few needed but yeh the view from here isnt looking good



i wonder if over the next ten+ years they'll have to lower it to around 250-275 since with all the specialists we have now theres a less likely chance to see 300 game winners

[ChrisTheCop]

Not exactly surprising, but breaking, news.
Julio Lugo is not in Toronto with The Sox, and may have seen his last game with them.

I'm sad because I always had great hopes for this guy, and they never panned out.
And at Spring training this year he seemed so eager, and I thought it was gonna happen for him, but he got injured again, and of course was replaced by 2 guys, both better than him.

He did however, score me 'family seat' tickets to one game at yanker stadium (remember that place?)

Thank you Julio, and good luck wherever you end up.

[A.J.]

I hope he can be traded rather than just cut loose. That's going to be a pricey divorce.

[Jujubees2]

I hope he can be traded rather than just cut loose. That's going to be a pricey divorce.

Either way it's going to be pricey as I assume any team that takes him will want the Red Sox to pay his salary.

[A.J.]

Buck looked pretty sharp last night. That's encouraging.

[A.J.]

Another day, another shitty outing from Smoltz.

[drjoek]

Another day, another shitty outing from Smoltz.



Not really sure what you guys expected. Smoltz is old and broken.
You hoped to catch lightning in a bottle it didn't happen.

[A.J.]

He's good for a couple of innings before his inevitable collapses. Maybe move him to the pen and make Masterson a starter.

[drjoek]

He's good for a couple of innings before his inevitable collapses. Maybe move him to the pen and make Masterson a starter.



Smoltz has proven he can do it from the pen in the past.

[SP1!]

Not really sure what you guys expected. Smoltz is old and broken.
You hoped to catch lightning in a bottle it didn't happen.

Its the reason the braves wouldnt give him a guaranteed contract, they got tired of paying him for being on the DL at the end of every year, wasted money.

And he wont be effective as a closer since he blames that for his arm problems now, but it may be the only way he makes the HOF.

[joeyballsack]

He was cruising right along last night until that sixth inning when the shit hit the fan.

I have a feeling he is going to be going to the pen and Bucholtz will be taking his spot in the rotation. They will end up trading one of the bullpen arms they have right now, maybe even Masterson, who has been pretty shaky lately.

[joeyballsack]

Its the reason the braves wouldnt give him a guaranteed contract, they got tired of paying him for being on the DL at the end of every year, wasted money.

And he wont be effective as a closer since he blames that for his arm problems now, but it may be the only way he makes the HOF.

Are you saying its questionable whether he is a HOF'er or not ?

[A.J.]

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[drjoek]

Wakefield to miss starts with oblique strain

Do I sense panic in Red Sox Nation?

[A.J.]

Didn't you see my above post? I'm going to be as positive as Chris the Cop.

[ChrisTheCop]

Wakefield to miss starts with oblique strain

Do I sense panic in Red Sox Nation?

Didn't you see my above post? I'm going to be as positive as Chris the Cop.

aww, shucks AJ. Thanks. Yep, I'm still positive. There's still lots of season left.

I'll be honest, I was looking forward to the returns of Lowell and Lowrie, but now that theyre back... what happened? lol.

And tonight, our only winning pitcher this half is back on the mound!
I think it was Francona who joked, "All we need from you tonight is a no hitter".

DrJ, we are not the fans who panic after a few bad games. We waited, as you guys all too often remind us, 86 years once... we can wait out a few games to get back on track.

[A.J.]

aww, shucks AJ. Thanks. Yep, I'm still positive. There's still lots of season left.

I know, I'm trying to do better. I'm just worried about the annual visit of Wake's sore back coming so soon.

I can't wait for the ball-busting I'm going to get tonight from my bartender who is a Yankee fan.

[drjoek]

aww, shucks AJ. Thanks. Yep, I'm still positive. There's still lots of season left.

I'll be honest, I was looking forward to the returns of Lowell and Lowrie, but now that theyre back... what happened? lol.

And tonight, our only winning pitcher this half is back on the mound!
I think it was Francona who joked, "All we need from you tonight is a no hitter".

DrJ, we are not the fans who panic after a few bad games. We waited, as you guys all too often remind us, 86 years once... we can wait out a few games to get back on track.


I dont know I sense a little panic in your words.

Its definately time to panic

at least a bit
:tongue:

[TheGameHHH]

LaRosche huh?

[A.J.]

Sure, why not deal away another SS prospect? (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090722&content_id=5995616&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) Theo has a great track record handling that spot.

[joeyballsack]

Sure, why not deal away another SS prospect? (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090722&content_id=5995616&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) Theo has a great track record handling that spot.


They just signed a Cuban SS who is supposedly a defensive wizard, so maybe this kid had no chance of moving forward in the organization.

Who knows, it seems Laroches second half numbers are usually pretty decent, so it might be a good pickup.

It must really suck to be a Pirates fan. If they keep it up, they are going to turn over the majority of the opening day starting lineup.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Sure, why not deal away another SS prospect? (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090722&content_id=5995616&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) Theo has a great track record handling that spot.

The kid couldn't hit.

[joeyballsack]

The kid couldn't hit.

No one on the Sox can lately either it seems.

[Kevin]

What SS prospect besides Hanly did Theo trade that was great? And Hanly, you got Beckett and Lowell, who won you a WS. Even that was not Theo, and turned out great.

[Dan 'Hampton]

No one on the Sox can lately either it seems.

A case of the October-A-rods.

[cougarjake13]

im just sad that they broke up the laroche brothers

[drjoek]

im just sad that they broke up the laroche brothers

LaRoche, who is hitting .109 since July 4.

:help:

[Fallon]

im just sad that they broke up the laroche brothers

But Adam really didn't have to spit an apple in Andy's face before he left.

[drjoek]

Elvis is in the building!
Suicide squeeze. Very nice play

[drjoek]

JD Drew
:lol:

[joeyballsack]

Well..on the bright side at least I will get to go to Cooperstown this weekend to see Jim Rice inducted into the HOF. Maybe that will break me out of the baseball funk that this week is putting me into.

[drjoek]

Swept!

[joeyballsack]

Well, at least they won't lose tomorrow.

[ChrisTheCop]

Well..on the bright side at least I will get to go to Cooperstown this weekend to see Jim Rice inducted into the HOF. Maybe that will break me out of the baseball funk that this week is putting me into.

:clap::clap::clap::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Kevin]

Well, at least they won't lose tomorrow.

Or, you can say that they won't win for the 6th day in a row!!

[ChrisTheCop]

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090723&content_id=6012788&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

[A.J.]

What SS prospect besides Hanly did Theo trade that was great? And Hanly, you got Beckett and Lowell, who won you a WS. Even that was not Theo, and turned out great.

Not so much trading away prospects as a horrible record of keeping the SS position manned full-time between injuries and trades. Yeah, Lowrie is the future right now but if he goes down again is Nick Green going to be here long enough to back him up?

Since 2004, the Red Sox have used 19 different players to man shortstop.

Year Name Innings Putouts Assists Errors Average
2004 Pokey Reese 8272/3 85 189 6 .221
2004 Orlando Cabrera 491 78 147 8 .294
2004 Nomar Garciaparra 311 1/3 52 81 6 .321
2004 Cesar Crespo 96 1/3 20 30 3 .165
2004 Ricky Gutierrez 36 7 9 1 .275
2004 Mark Bellhorn 9 2 3 0 .264
2005 Edgar Renteria 1,293 227 398 30 .276
2005 Ramon Vazquez 70 16 15 1 .197
2005 Alex Cora 48 1/3 9 24 0 .269
2005 Mark Bellhorn 9 1 3 1 .216
2005 Hanley Ramirez 6 0 1 0 .000
2005 Alejandro Machado 2 2/3 1 1 0 .200
2006 Alex Gonzalez 966 1/3 163 305 7 .255
2006 Alex Cora 434 66 166 6 .238
2006 Dustin Pedroia 41 7 13 1 .191
2007 Julio Lugo 1228 1/3 214 360 19 .237
2007 Alex Cora 202 1/3 25 69 3 .246
2007 Royce Clayton 8 0 3 1 .000
2008 Julio Lugo 671 1/3 100 176 16 .268
2008 Alex Cora 74 136 6 6 .27
2008 Jed Lowrie 386 46 109 0 .258
2008 Gil Velazquez 3 0 1 0 .125
2009 Nick Green 486 1/3 80 151 9 .257
2009 Julio Lugo 243 1/3 39 51 7 .284
2009 Jed Lowrie 44 6 12 0 .056
2009 GIl Velazquez 11 2/3 3 3 0 .000

[HBox]

What SS prospect besides Hanly did Theo trade that was great? And Hanly, you got Beckett and Lowell, who won you a WS. Even that was not Theo, and turned out great.

The Pirates 3B Freddy Sanchez was from the Sox farm system and came up as a SS.

[Kevin]

The Pirates 3B Freddy Sanchez was from the Sox farm system and came up as a SS.

Who they get for him..

[Jujubees2]

Who they get for him..

Jeff Suppan

And you've got to remember that the Sox had a shortstop by the name of Nomar at the time.

[Kevin]

Jeff Suppan

And you've got to remember that the Sox had a shortstop by the name of Nomar at the time.

Was that when Suppan was supposed to be this stud?

If so, that and Nomar, you can't fault them.

[A.J.]

I had begun to forget what a Red Sox win looked like. Thanks to Paps for making it "more exciting".

[A.J.]

Another day, another shitty outing from Smoltz.

Looks like I can keep recycling this post.

MOVE HIM TO THE BULLPEN.

[underdog]

According to a report on Yahoo! Sports, the Red Sox offered a package of pitchers Clay Buchholz and Michael Bowden and minor league outfielder Ryan Westmoreland to Toronto for Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay. The report goes on to say the Red Sox may be trying to get a third team involved in order to acquire the shortstop that Toronto covets, and that the Red Sox have declared pitchers Casey Kelly and Daniel Bard "off-limits".

Hmm...

Also, Kotsay sent to White Sox for outfielder Brian Anderson (http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/212970/kotsay-sent-white-sox-outfielder-brian-anderson)

[joeyballsack]

I would be pretty pleased if they could get Halladay for that package.

[OGC]

I would be pretty pleased if they could get Halladay for that package.


If they did, that would mean that they would have both Beckett and Halladay as free agents at the end of next year. Could they possibly resign both of them ? If not which one do they concentrate on ?

[Snoogans]

If they did, that would mean that they would have both Beckett and Halladay as free agents at the end of next year. Could they possibly resign both of them ? If not which one do they concentrate on ?

being that they both already make pretty good money and boston makes a ton, yea id say they can afford both. Thats not to say they are going to want to pay both, but they could afford it. Especially since I think Papi is up then too

[Fallon]

About five minutes away from the ceremony.

http://i30.tinypic.com/21nmjro.jpg

[joeyballsack]

The Yanks have enough to pay CC & Burnett so I think it could be done, especially with the deals they signed Pedroia and Youlkis to.

[OGC]

being that they both already make pretty good money and boston makes a ton, yea id say they can afford both. Thats not to say they are going to want to pay both, but they could afford it. Especially since I think Papi is up then too

True, they could afford both of them, they have trimmed their payroll over the last few years, and Papi is coming up for renewal next year, but Papi has took relatively short money the last time he resigned so I don't know that his salary savings would make much of an impact. And if they let him go, they'll need to get a big bat too.

Yeah, the Yanks can afford 2 big salary pitchers, but their revenue is in another universe compared with anyone else. Including the Red Sox.

I'm glad I'm not Theo.

[Kevin]

The Yanks have enough to pay CC & Burnett so I think it could be done, especially with the deals they signed Pedroia and Youlkis to.

Like the Yanks give a shit about money.


They have another 35mil coming off the books this off-season

The only reason why they won't do it is because they don't wanna give up Joba and or Hughes

[joeyballsack]

Papelbon has been pretty iffy this year.

Maybe he needs to worry a little more about closing out games and less about setting the bar when it comes to salary for closers, especially with an up and coming Bard looking like the heir apparent.

[A.J.]

Nice job Paps. Ass.

The Rice ceremony was very cool -- and long overdue. I still wish management would change the rules for retiring a jersey because a lot more belong up there.

And the Sox get Brian Anderson for Mark Kotsay. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090728&content_id=6106786&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos)I think I'll write my best friend about that who is cousins with Anderson.

[OGC]

Papelbon has been pretty iffy this year.

Maybe he needs to worry a little more about closing out games and less about setting the bar when it comes to salary for closers, especially with an up and coming Bard looking like the heir apparent.

Nice job Paps. Ass.



I'll certainly agree that Papelbon has been an adventure this year, but Nick Green's 2 errors in the 9th were more of a factor last night.

[drjoek]

Papelbon seems to top out at 94 this year isnt that down alot from years past with him?

[joeyballsack]

He is still throwing hard, topping out at 98.8 last night, he is just having some control issues this year.

[A.J.]

And a big "fuck you" to Dice-K for blaming the Sox for his woes. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090728&content_id=6111192&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) Maybe if you didn't go all-out for that stupid WBC.

[TheGameHHH]

And a big "fuck you" to Dice-K for blaming the Sox for his woes. (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090728&content_id=6111192&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos) Maybe if you didn't go all-out for that stupid WBC.

What hurts more, the fact that he went all out for the WBC or the fact that you guys paid 100 million dollars to watch him go all out for the WBC?

[A.J.]

What hurts more, the fact that he went all out for the WBC or the fact that you guys paid 100 million dollars to watch him go all out for the WBC?

Yes.

[A.J.]

At this point, I'd be glad if Theo got rid of Penny, Smoltz and Dice-K for magic beans.

[joeyballsack]

I guess it was just a matter of time until it came out, but still disappointing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html?_r=2&ref=sports

Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz, the sluggers who propelled the Boston Red Sox to end an 86-year World Series championship drought and to capture another title three years later, were among the roughly 100 Major League Baseball players to test positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, according to lawyers with knowledge of the results.

[underdog]

I guess it was just a matter of time until it came out, but still disappointing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html?_r=2&ref=sports

I'm shocked!

[HBox]

I guess it was just a matter of time until it came out, but still disappointing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html?_r=2&ref=sports

YA DON'T SAY!

[ChrisTheCop]

We need to play the yankees SOON!

[drjoek]

We need to play the yankees SOON!

be careful what you wish for

[TheGameHHH]

Hahahahahahahahahaha, awesome

[A.J.]

We need to play the yankees SOON!

How about we try playing the A's first?

[sailor]

We need to play the yankees SOON!

cheaters!!

[brettmojo]

At least now the folks at Fenway can practice their steroid chant on Big Poopi.

[Doctor Z]

How am I this late to the party and there's still no thread on this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335


And for irony sake, here's the article where he recommended a 1-year suspension for those who are caught --

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3911153

[JerseyRich]

The curse is still on bitches!

[brettmojo]

ONE YEAR SUSPENSION... IMMEDIATELY!!!

STRIP THE WORLD SERIES TITLES!!!

It figures the only way to break the curse was to cheat FUCKING CHEATERS!!! INJUSTICE!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Hey, look. More meaningless shit from 6 years ago.

[underdog]

How am I this late to the party and there's still no thread on this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335

Because we've been discussing it in the Red Sox thread.

[underdog]

Hey, look. More meaningless shit from 6 years ago.

Seriously.

I'm going to go post in the Nirvana vs SP thread now.

[TheMojoPin]

ONE YEAR SUSPENSION... IMMEDIATELY!!!

STRIP THE WORLD SERIES TITLES!!!

It figures the only way to break the curse was to cheat FUCKING CHEATERS!!! INJUSTICE!!!

Yet that Yankees couldn't win any with a bunch of proven juicing all-stars so far this century.

Awwwwwwwwwww.

[OGC]

It has been mentioned in the Red Sox thread.

I have to say I am surprised and disappointed if it proves to be true. I always thought that if anyone was clean it was Papi.

I guess I was wrong.

[Doctor Z]

...Really? This story isn't deserving of its own thread? It concerns a guy who's not even on the Red Sox anymore...

I'm going home.

[underdog]

...Really? This story isn't deserving of its own thread? It concerns a guy who's not even on the Red Sox anymore...

I'm going home.

You are home.

And it doesn't deserve its own thread because you could just rename any MLB team thread "MLB Steroid Thread" at this point.

[sailor]

Yet that Yankees couldn't win any with a bunch of proven juicing all-stars so far this century.

Awwwwwwwwwww.

you really do have no sense of humor? i always thought it was a myth.

[TheMojoPin]

you really do have no sense of humor? i always thought it was a myth.

I thought it was hysterical.

[brettmojo]

Yet that Yankees couldn't win any with a bunch of proven juicing all-stars so far this century.

Awwwwwwwwwww.
Yeah but they all stopped juicing once they came to the Yankees.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah but they all stopped juicing once they came to the Yankees.

Sure they did.

[Snoogans]

Yeah but they all stopped juicing once they came to the Yankees.

ARod was on the same list. So the only proof you have is they did it at the same time.

[Snoogans]

my main thing is, WHY THE FUCK DID YOU WAIT SO LONG TO GET BACK ON THEM? OR STOP TAKING THEM?

Half the fuckin team is hitting 225, can we get a little help?

[brettmojo]

Sure they did.

ARod was on the same list. So the only proof you have is they did it at the same time.
Yeah but no one was ever caught using while on the Yankees. If that's not proof I don't know what is!

[Snoogans]

Yeah but no one was ever caught using while on the Yankees. If that's not proof I don't know what is!

umm, Clemens was a yankee when he did em.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah but no one was ever caught using while on the Yankees. If that's not proof I don't know what is!

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2001/0430_large.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2001/0430_large.jpg

ouch, brett.

[brettmojo]

umm, Clemens was a yankee when he did em.
Supposedly. Never tested positive for them!!!