Baseball Award Predictions

[K.C.]

AL Most Valuable Player: Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins
NL Most Valuable Player: Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee, Cleveland Indians
NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants (although I may be swayed if the Diamondbacks make the playoffs, because it'd likely mean Brandon Webb won two huge starts in the last week to get them in.
AL Rookie Of The Year: Alexei Ramirez, Chicago White Sox
NL Rookie Of The Year: Geovany Soto, Chicago Cubs
AL Manager Of The Year: Joe Maddon, Tampa Bay Rays
NL Manager Of The Year: Fredi Gonzalez, Florida Marlins

[El Mudo]

I like Cliff Lee for AL MVP

You can't get much more valuable than going 22-2 on a poo poo team

[brettmojo]

I like Cliff Lee for AL MVP

You can't get much more valuable than going 22-2 on a poo poo team
That's why he wouldn't get it... Other than being a pitcher.

[K.C.]

I like Cliff Lee for AL MVP

You can't get much more valuable than going 22-2 on a poo poo team

Actually, that's not a bad bet.

If Lee doesn't win the MVP as a pitcher this year, you may never see a pitcher win the MVP again.

There's no real standout in the AL. The Josh Hamilton buzz has kind of died, although he's still a Top 3 candidate if he doesn't win it.

Morneau's been great, but the Twins have faded.

I wouldn't mind Lee at all. What he's done is Carlton-esque (although not quite on par with Lefty).

[brettmojo]

I think Krod has a good chance of getting the Cy Young award.

[El Mudo]

That's why he wouldn't get it... Other than being a pitcher.

So what? The guy goes out and wins every start. Its not HIS fault the team stinks the rest of the time.

What more do you want from him? He's not able to bat (due to the fact he plays in a league that doesn't play actual baseball), and he doesn't wear a cape

In fact its MORE impressive that he was able to win so many games with an awful team

[midwestjeff]

Avg.- 2nd
Hrs- 5th
RBI- 7th
Runs- 15th
Hits- 6th
2B- 5th
SLG.- 1st

Pretty solid case, but he'll finish 3rd or 4th because of the Zeptember collapse.

[brettmojo]

So what? The guy goes out and wins every start. Its not HIS fault the team stinks the rest of the time.

What more do you want from him? He's not able to bat (due to the fact he plays in a league that doesn't play actual baseball), and he doesn't wear a cape

In fact its MORE impressive that he was able to win so many games with an awful team
If they're ever gonna' give an MVP to a pitcher it'd be Krod this year. If they don't then they never will again.

And the NL vs. AL crap is boring... Much like NL baseball. Stop it.

[A.J.]

AL Quitter of the Year: Manny Ramirez

[IMSlacker]

AL Most Valuable Player: Alex Rodriguez
NL Most Valuable Player: Albert Pujols
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb
AL Rookie Of The Year: Evan Longoria
NL Rookie Of The Year: Geovany Soto
AL Manager Of The Year: Joe Maddon
NL Manager Of The Year: Lou Piniella

[K.C.]

Avg.- 2nd
Hrs- 5th
RBI- 7th
Runs- 15th
Hits- 6th
2B- 5th
SLG.- 1st

Pretty solid case, but he'll finish 3rd or 4th because of the Zeptember collapse.

It's going to be either Howard or Pujols again this year.

Actually, the case for Pujols is stronger this year than in '06. The average and strikeouts for Howard may be a bit too much for people to swallow this time around for those voters.

I couldn't complain if Pujols won this time. I would have complained if Pujols won in '06, not because he didn't deserve it, but because Howard was unreal that season.



Brad Lidge would be a good dark horse candidate if you're looking for someone who's not getting much talk to win it.

[El Mudo]

If they're ever gonna' give an MVP to a pitcher it'd be Krod this year. If they don't then they never will again.

And the NL vs. AL crap is boring... Much like NL baseball. Stop it.


If they were gonna give an MVP to a reliever they would have given it to Gagne a few years ago when he was lights out for the Dodgers...and its borderline retarded to give an MVP to a guy that pitches one inning a game

And I'll stick with watching a game that features actual strategy and actual baseball

[Earlshog]

AL Most Valuable Player: Dustin Perdioa, Boston Red Sox
NL Most Valuable Player: Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee, Cleveland Indians
NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
AL Rookie Of The Year: Even Longoria Tampa Bay Devil Rays
NL Rookie Of The Year: Geovany Soto, Chicago Cubs
AL Manager Of The Year: Joe Maddon, Tampa Bay Rays
NL Manager Of The Year: Sweet Lou, Chicago Cubs

[JimmieHats]

AL Most Valuable Player: Dustin Perdioa, Boston Red Sox
NL Most Valuable Player: Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee, Cleveland Indians
NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
AL Rookie Of The Year: Even Longoria Tampa Bay Devil Rays
NL Rookie Of The Year: Geovany Soto, Chicago Cubs
AL Manager Of The Year: Joe Maddon, Tampa Bay Rays
NL Manager Of The Year: Sweet Lou, Chicago Cubs

Looks aboot right to me.

[Dirtbag]

I've got Webb over Lincecum. They fucked Webb out of Rookie of the Year in '03 when he was beating Dontrelle Willis in every stat except wins. Now he's in the opposite position. Unless he completely shits the bed in his next start, or Lincecum throws a no hitter, they should give it to Webb, especially if the Dodgers collapse and the Dbacks squeak into the playoffs.

[brettmojo]

If they were gonna give an MVP to a reliever they would have given it to Gagne a few years ago when he was lights out for the Dodgers...and its borderline retarded to give an MVP to a guy that pitches one inning a game

And I'll stick with watching a game that features actual strategy and actual baseball
Yeah the strategy of NL games is so exciting it's juzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzz.

And Krod broke the saves record this year. No one else, hitter or pitcher, has had a stand out season. Give Lee the Cy Young and give Krod the MVP. No AL hitter has had a particularly important stand out year.

[PD]

And Krod broke the saves record this year. .

Most over-rated record. Ever.

If I had to pick a team, K-rod wouldn't be the first reliever I'd take- even if we were just talking AL.

and maybe it's the anti-Phillie in me,but I don't see Ryan Howard winning MVP with his awful average.

Pujols wins it.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah the strategy of NL games is so exciting it's juzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzz.

And Krod broke the saves record this year. No one else, hitter or pitcher, has had a stand out season. Give Lee the Cy Young and give Krod the MVP. No AL hitter has had a particularly important stand out year.

It's a travesty that these awards already hinge on abullshit stat like pitching wins and losses...now we're tossing the ridiculous save stat into the equation?

Absurdity. If they weighed in pitching stats that actually mattered, KRod would have basically no chance of winning, what with his hideous WHIP and all.

[JPMNICK]

Joe Maddon, Tampa Bay Rays is such a lock even Hippo couldn't fuck this bet up

[skyscraper]

No way does Pujols get the MVP. he was of no value to his team. it's more than just stats, it's the intangibles that create value. Look at J-Roll. lots of players had better numbers than he had last year, but it was his leadership that helped bring the Phillies to the playoffs. (that they didn't win a single game in the postseason is irrelavent, MVP only applies to the regular season.)
Pujols is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he did not provide any intangible leadership that the team was able to follow into the post season.
If the Phillies make the playoffs, absolutely Howard gets it.

[TheMojoPin]

No way does Pujols get the MVP. he was of no value to his team. it's more than just stats, it's the intangibles that create value. Look at J-Roll. lots of players had better numbers than he had last year, but it was his leadership that helped bring the Phillies to the playoffs. (that they didn't win a single game in the postseason is irrelavent, MVP only applies to the regular season.)
Pujols is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he did not provide any intangible leadership that the team was able to follow into the post season.

Gobbleygook. If it's by definition "intangible," it shouldn't dictate the MVP.

[Dirtbag]

If making the playoffs had any impact on who wins MVP, Barry Bonds would have 2 or 3 instead of 7. Give it to Pujols.

[skyscraper]

Gobbleygook. If it's by definition "intangible," it shouldn't dictate the MVP.

how do you quantify the value of a player to his team? Pujols may have had better numbers than Howard, but was he more valuable? no: his team was no better with him than they would have been without him, ie, they would not have made the playoffs either way and so he could have been dispensed with. no value.
Rollins in 2007? no way would the Phillies have made the playoffs without him, even though other guys had better numbers. indispensible. Most valuable.
Howard this year? If you had asked me in July, I would have said no way. his numbers were way down, strikes out too many times, provided no spark. But now, down the stretch, he is showing that he has MVP stuff. The Phillies have not made the playoffs yet, so it's too soon to say, but if they do it will be in large part due to his home runs and the spark he has given them when they need it. That is value.
Again, not hating on Pujols. If I'm an opposing pitcher I walk him every chance I get.

[TheMojoPin]

how do you quantify the value of a player to his team? Pujols may have had better numbers than Howard, but was he more valuable? no: his team was no better with him than they would have been without him, ie, they would not have made the playoffs either way and so he could have been dispensed with. no value.
Rollins in 2007? no way would the Phillies have made the playoffs without him, even though other guys had better numbers. indispensible. Most valuable.
Howard this year? If you had asked me in July, I would have said no way. his numbers were way down, strikes out too many times, provided no spark. But now, down the stretch, he is showing that he has MVP stuff. The Phillies have not made the playoffs yet, so it's too soon to say, but if they do it will be in large part due to his home runs and the spark he has given them when they need it. That is value.
Again, not hating on Pujols. If I'm an opposing pitcher I walk him every chance I get.

Actually, I argue that the MVP should go more often to players on shittier teams than it does since their contributions are arguably even more apparent and impressive since they basically had to carry the team. Granted, the Cards didn't suck as mjuch as everyone assumed, but outside of Ludwick (who was still pretty streaky), all the surprising offense on the Cards came in streaky fits...except for Pujols. He carried them and kept them in the race until September. And yes, the numbers should always get more weight than intangibles.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

A Cliff Lee Trifecta (Cy Young, MVP, Comeback Player) is a remote possibility

Manager AL: Joe Madden (DUH)


in the NL

Cy Young : Tim Lincecum He is more dominant and has much less run support

MVP: Ryan Howard (fucking fat twat)

NL Manager Lou Pinella


ROY's

NL: Giovanny Soto

AL: Probably Ramirez, although Avilies for the Royal has been having a great year

[razorboy]

AL: Probably Ramirez, although Avilies for the Royal has been having a great year

Longoria almost certainly has AL ROY.

[skyscraper]

MVP: Ryan Howard (fucking fat twat)


you wish you had that fucking fat twat on your team.

[K.C.]

Longoria almost certainly has AL ROY.

Alexei has better number on a team that will win it's division, too, and he's played three different positions throughout the season.

I could still see Longoria getting it because of the Rays hype, but Ramirez deserves it big time.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I thought for some reason Longoria played a little last season

I change my pic to Longoria

[razorboy]

Alexei has better number on a team that will win it's division, too, and he's played three different positions throughout the season.

I could still see Longoria getting it because of the Rays hype, but Ramirez deserves it big time.

In thirteen less games and thirty-one less at bats (due to a DL stint and a delayed callup) the numbers go back and forth between the two. I'll take Longo's runs, RBIs, BBs, HRs, OBP, SLG, and OPS over Alexei's hits (17 more), SB (5 more) and AVG. The only place where Ramirez is glaringly better is stike outs.

[El Mudo]

No way does Pujols get the MVP. he was of no value to his team. it's more than just stats, it's the intangibles that create value. Look at J-Roll. lots of players had better numbers than he had last year, but it was his leadership that helped bring the Phillies to the playoffs. (that they didn't win a single game in the postseason is irrelavent, MVP only applies to the regular season.)
Pujols is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he did not provide any intangible leadership that the team was able to follow into the post season.
If the Phillies make the playoffs, absolutely Howard gets it.

How? Its not Pujols' fault his team had terrible pitching

And can we point out (thanks to my good friends at FireJoeMorgan) the absurdity of the entire Ryan Howard MVP argument?

Ryan Howard batted .168 in April. Albert Pujols' batting averages, by month (and I know batting average doesn't matter. Here they are anyway): .365, .373, .302, .347, .398, .321

Mark DeRosa and Cristian Guzman had higher VORPs than Ryan Howard. VORP is not the final word by any means; it obviously has deficiencies. But hey, also: Ryan Howard was 6th on his team in OBP. Think about that.

Sure, he hit by far the most home runs. RBI are bullshit. Here are things he didn't lead the majors in:

EqA
VORP
WARP1
WARP2
WARP3
OBP
OPS
SLG
WPA
BB
BA
R
Literally any defensive statistic. Any of them. Just pick one.

You know who led or was damn close to the lead in a shitload of those statistics? Albert Pujols. The 2008 NL MVP.


I don't buy this "you have to lead your team to the postseason" BS as a requirement for MVP...they tried to use the same thing against Ovechkin last year, and its as stupid then as it is now and has always been


Yeah the strategy of NL games is so exciting it's juzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzz.

And Krod broke the saves record this year. No one else, hitter or pitcher, has had a stand out season. Give Lee the Cy Young and give Krod the MVP. No AL hitter has had a particularly important stand out year.


Seen Mariano Rivera's stats for this year? The man's WHIP was .67 for the love of mary!!! .67!!!!!! And he only walked 6 people all year (compared to 34 for KRod). I would call that a standout year, and much more impressive than KRod and the stupid saves record

[TheMojoPin]

EL Mudo is sexily wise.

[TheMojoPin]

FJM.com crushes the idea that Ryan Howard should be MP over Pujols: (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/10/albert-pujols-was-not-good-enough.html)

But as unthinkably dangerous as the Cardinals’ slugger was, he couldn’t get his team to the postseason. Howard did.

You're right. Albert Pujols did not nearly pitch well enough, or for enough innings (Can you believe zero innings? What a bum!) for the Cardinals to to make the playoffs. (The Phillies had a team ERA of 3.88; the Cardinals 4.19. Albert Pujols? More like Albert Not A Very Good Pitching Coach!)

Pujols should have lobbied to have St. Louis the city moved to Oregon, where his Cardinals would have won the NL West by two games and he would be lauded as a clutch MVP baseball superhero with quality intangibles and a leader with the uncanny ability to come through when it counts. But unfortunately, Pujols has never been good at getting entire cities to spontaneously change their geographical locations.

Ryan Howard batted .168 in April. Albert Pujols' batting averages, by month (and I know batting average doesn't matter. Here they are anyway): .365, .373, .302, .347, .398, .321. Bob Klapisch, do you think for some reason that games played in April don't count in the standings? Ryan Howard batted .213 in August.

Granted, Pujols had better season-long numbers.

Granted, "The Wire" is a "better" show than "Hole in the Wall."

But Howard was in another reality in September, when impact players make their mark.

But "Hole in the Wall" and one very funny moment where a guy couldn't fit through the hole in the wall, and that is the kind of impact that impact TV shows make when it counts.

While the Phillies were catching and passing the Mets (again), Howard batted .352 and hit 11 home runs — one every eight at-bats.

While the Cardinals were playing baseball, Albert Pujols batted .357.

Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out.

He finished the season with a mediocre .251 average, but otherwise led the majors with 48 HR and 146 RBI.

Sure, he hit by far the most home runs. RBI are bullshit. Here are things he didn't lead the majors in:

EqA
VORP
WARP1
WARP2
WARP3
OBP
OPS
SLG
WPA
BB
BA
R
Literally any defensive statistic. Any of them. Just pick one.

You know who led or was damn close to the lead in a shitload of those statistics? Albert Pujols. The 2008 NL MVP.

[Hithead]

Dustin Pedroia MVP

[underdog]

FJM.com crushes the idea that Ryan Howard should be MP over Pujols: (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/10/albert-pujols-was-not-good-enough.html)

But intangibles, maaaan.

K-Rod and Howard should just get the MVPs to just show how fucking ridiculous and retarded all baseball writers are.

[TheMojoPin]

But intangibles, maaaan.

K-Rod and Howard should just get the MVPs to just show how fucking ridiculous and retarded all baseball writers are.

The K-Rod talk is even stupider given how freakishly dominant Mariano Rivera was yet again.

His WHIP was 0.69

Hold on, let me repeat that...

HIS WHIP WAS 0.69.

It's fucking insane how amazing that is. Compare that K-Rod's actually not good 1.288, something which should be a massive red flag for anyone about to shell out a bunch of years and big money to him.

I'm not saying K-Rod isn't very good, but in no way deserves the Cy Young or the MVP this year.

[underdog]

I'm not saying K-Rod isn't very good, but in no way deserves the Cy Young or the MVP this year.

But he got to play on a great team and come in and pitch with a 2 or 3 run lead for an inning. If that doesn't deserve a Cy Young, I don't know what does.

[skyscraper]

The award is Most VALUABLE Player, not the best player.
What was Pujols' value to his team? He had great numbers, but of what value are they to his team? What were the team's goals, and would they have achieved them without him?
I submit that the Phillies' goal was to repeat as NL East champs at the least, and to win the World Series at best. I submit further that they would not have achieved the first part of that goal without Howard playing out of his mind in September. (obviously the second part of the goal has yet to be achieved.) If Howard slacked off, but everyone else on the team played exactly the way they did, no way are the Phillies still playing. It's just a shame that Howard has to have these huge Septembers to make up for his weak Aprils and Mays. If he would learn to equalize the distribution a bit he wouldn't need to come up so huge. But whatever works.

[TheMojoPin]

The award is Most VALUABLE Player, not the best player.

By any logic that isn't ridiculous, the best player is of course the most valuable player. That's just common sense. It's stupid to argue that a lesser player is somehow more valuable than a player that is clearly much better than them in basically every possible part of the game.

What was Pujols' value to his team?

He was far and away the best hitter in all of baseball, and an excellent defensive player on top of that.

Boom, done. He's better than Ryan Howard. MUCH better. It's really not even close.

He had great numbers, but of what value are they to his team?

Seriously?

What were the team's goals,

To win as many games as possible, same as every other team.

and would they have achieved them without him?

No. They would have lost many, many, MANY more games if Albert Pujols was not on the Cardinals.

I submit that the Phillies' goal was to repeat as NL East champs at the least, and to win the World Series at best. I submit further that they would not have achieved the first part of that goal without Howard playing out of his mind in September. (obviously the second part of the goal has yet to be achieved.) If Howard slacked off, but everyone else on the team played exactly the way they did, no way are the Phillies still playing. It's just a shame that Howard has to have these huge Septembers to make up for his weak Aprils and Mays. If he would learn to equalize the distribution a bit he wouldn't need to come up so huge. But whatever works.

Wait, why did you leave out his "weak" August? Ryan Howard sucked for approximately 50% of the entire season, ad a horrible defender the entire time. Albert Pujols was one of or THE best hitter in baseball for 100% of the season as well as being one of the best 1st baseman out there...ALL WITH A BUM ELBOW THAT NEEDS SURGERY. In a sane world, this isn't even a discussion. Albert Pujols is clearly the most valuable player in the entire game of baseball right now, much less just the National League. What you described of Howard makes him player of the month at best. He shouldn't even be the Phillies' team MVP for the year.

I can't believe this madness makes a diehard Cubs fan defend a Cardinal, but this gibberish needs to end.

RYAN HOWARD IS RANKED 30TH IN THE NL IN VORP.

30TH.

30TH IN VALUE OVER REPLACEMENT PLAYER.

HE IS ARGUABLY THE 30TH MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE.

We don't need nonsense and jibber-jabber. Give Howard the Silver Slugger and move on.

[Snoogans]

Mojo sucks balls



















but he is right

[TheMojoPin]

Fuck Ryan Howard's September. A team that makes the playoffs with him sucking ass HARD for half the fucking season made it IN SPITE OF HIM, not because of him.

[epo]

Yeah the strategy of NL games is so exciting it's juzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzz.


Savage.

[underdog]

RYAN HOWARD IS RANKED 30TH IN THE NL IN VORP.

30TH.

30TH IN VALUE OVER REPLACEMENT PLAYER.

HE IS ARGUABLY THE 30TH MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE.

But its the Most Valuable Player, not the Most Valu... oh, wait.

Also, the title of the FJM article says it all : Albert Pujols Was Not A Good Enough Pitcher To Win The MVP

[TheMojoPin]

Now before someone jumps on it, no, I'm not saying that VORP is deinfitively the ranked listing of who is most valuable...but it's pretty fucking close.

For kicks, let's see who Ryan Howard most compares to at this point in his career as a hitter:

Norm Cash
Cecil Fielder
Jim Gentile
Jason Bay
Mo Vaughn
Tony Clark
Zeke Bonura
Joe Hauser
Adam LaRoche
Tim Salmon

Not bad at all. Mind you, I've never said Ryan Howard isn't a good player.

Now, here's Pujols:

Joe DiMaggio
Jimmie Foxx
Frank Robinson
Ken Griffey
Hank Aaron
Mickey Mantle
Hal Trosky
Vladimir Guerrero
Lou Gehrig
Orlando Cepeda

GOOD GREAT HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK.

In every year of his baseball career, Pujols compares most with DiMaggio. Every year.

Ryan Howard? Norm Cash. Not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but you're really gonna tell me that he is more valuable than the modern day Joe DiMaggio?

[skyscraper]

By any logic that isn't ridiculous, the best player is of course the most valuable player. That's just common sense. It's stupid to argue that a lesser player is somehow more valuable than a player that is clearly much better than them in basically every possible part of the game.



The cardinals' goal is not only to win as many games as possible, but to win the championship. they didn't even get to the playoffs. that would have happened with or without Pujols.
I'm not arguing whether Pujols is the better player; clearly he is. he just happens to be on a team that missed the playoffs. one way to gauge whether he is the most valuable is that if they can trade him for a bunch of talented rookies and minor leaguers who combined help them make the playoffs. THAT'S when they should give him the MVP award.

[TheMojoPin]

The cardinals' goal is not only to win as many games as possible, but to win the championship. they didn't even get to the playoffs. that would have happened with or without Pujols.
I'm not arguing whether Pujols is the better player; clearly he is. he just happens to be on a team that missed the playoffs. one way to gauge whether he is the most valuable is that if they can trade him for a bunch of talented rookies and minor leaguers who combined help them make the playoffs. THAT'S when they should give him the MVP award.

Honestly, this is ridiculous gibberish that has zero relation to how valuable a player actually is. It should be based on the player's performance year-round. You want to give Howard the MVP for having the most HR's and ultimately having one month of excellent hitting (not even "excellent baseball," since he still was a shitty fielder). You're also basically saying that the MVP has to come from a team that made the playoffs.

The stupid thing is, Howard probably will be the MVP for all of the type of nonsensical reasons being tossed out here.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

AL Most Valuable Player: Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins
NL Most Valuable Player: Manny Ramirez, Los Angeles Dodgers
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee, Cleveland Indians
NL Cy Young: CC Sabathia, Milwaukee Brewers
AL Rookie Of The Year: Evan Longoria, Tampa Bay Rays
NL Rookie Of The Year: Geovany Soto, Chicago Cubs
AL Manager Of The Year: Joe Maddon, Tampa Bay Rays
NL Manager Of The Year: Tony Larusa, St Louis Cardinals

[El Mudo]

Honestly, this is ridiculous gibberish that has zero relation to how valuable a player actually is. It should be based on the player's performance year-round. You want to give Howard the MVP for having the most HR's and ultimately having one month of excellent hitting (not even "excellent baseball," since he still was a shitty fielder). You're also basically saying that the MVP has to come from a team that made the playoffs.

The stupid thing is, Howard probably will be the MVP for all of the type of nonsensical reasons being tossed out here.


Considering I don't even think Howard is the most valuable player on his own team *cough*ChaseUtley*cough* it will make it that much more of an abomination when he does win it

I HATE sportswriters

[hammersavage]

Savage.

Yes?

[skyscraper]

Considering I don't even think Howard is the most valuable player on his own team *cough*ChaseUtley*cough* it will make it that much more of an abomination when he does win it

I HATE sportswriters

hate to say it, but utley's been soft this year. has mvp potential, absolutely, but not gonna happen this year.
I hate sportswriters too.

[TheMojoPin]

hate to say it, but utley's been soft this year. has mvp potential, absolutely, but not gonna happen this year.
I hate sportswriters too.

So over the ENTIRE season, when Howard sucked for about 50% of it, Howard was more valuable than Utley?

[TheGameHHH]

The K-Rod talk is even stupider given how freakishly dominant Mariano Rivera was yet again.

His WHIP was 0.69

Hold on, let me repeat that...

HIS WHIP WAS 0.69.

It's fucking insane how amazing that is. Compare that K-Rod's actually not good 1.288, something which should be a massive red flag for anyone about to shell out a bunch of years and big money to him.

I'm not saying K-Rod isn't very good, but in no way deserves the Cy Young or the MVP this year.

i can't wait to see who shells out the money for this guy. he's walk rate has been increasing and strikeout rate decreasing, yet he believes he's worth more then Mo. i have mad respect for the Angels owner (Moreno??) when he said he just can't pay a closer more then Mo.

[DOHO@HOME]

The Yankees will be signing him don't you think?

[IMSlacker]

AL ROY: Evan Longoria
NL ROY: Geovany Soto

I'm 2 for 2 so far. Of course, these were the easiest two to call.