New Michael Moore Movie....... FREE!

[Caseyelan]

Friends,

This is it. The time has arrived! At midnight tonight, you can be one of the first people ever to legally download, for FREE, a brand new, feature-length film. It's my new movie, "Slacker Uprising," and I'm giving it to you as a gift of thanks for coming to my films over the 20 years I've been a filmmaker.

It's also one of my contributions to help get out the vote November 4th. That's why I'm giving you my blanket permission to not only download it, but also to email it, burn it, and share it with anyone and everyone (in the U.S. and Canada only). I want you to use "Slacker Uprising" in any way you see fit to help with the election or to do the work that you do in your community. You can show my film in your local theater, your high school classroom, your college auditorium, your church, union hall or community center. You can have your friends and neighbors over to the house for a viewing. You can broadcast it on TV, on cable access, on regular channels or on the web. It's completely free -- I don't want to see a dime from this. And if you want, you can charge admission or ask for a donation if it's to raise money for a candidate, a voter drive, or for any non-profit or educational purpose. In other words -- it's yours!

"Slacker Uprising" chronicles the 62-city tour I did leading up to the 2004 election. It is electrifying to see the tens of thousands of young people who were ready then for the uprising -- and who, this year, are actually making it happen. This is my concert film tribute to the young voters who are going to save this country from four more years of Republican rule.

There are a number of ways, beginning at midnight tonight, that you can download or stream "Slacker Uprising" thanks to our distributor, Brave New Films:

1) Blip.tv will provide standard resolution streaming, free of commercials and advertising.
2) Amazon Video on Demand will provide a high quality version of the above stream.
3) iTunes will make it easy for you to download "Slacker Uprising" on your iTunes, iPod, or Apple TV, and view it there or transmit it to your television. This way, the film can be portable as well as for home viewing.
4) Hypernia is providing bandwidth, servers and management to host "Slacker Uprising" online, so you can download the film and view it at any time or burn it onto a DVD.

I am fortunate to have all these great people bringing you my movie for free. There will be no ads and they have all agreed to supply their services free of charge. All of them wanted to be part of this historic moment when the first major feature-length movie is being released for free on the internet.

(For those of you who don't download, there will be a low-cost DVD available.)

This past Thursday we held the world premiere of "Slacker Uprising" in Ann Arbor (you can read about it here). The response was incredible and I want to encourage you to screen this movie with large groups. I believe it will inspire our get-out-the-vote efforts at a time when we need to get millions registered in the next two weeks.

Thanks again for all your support over the years. I hope you'll like my new film. It's all yours, anytime after midnight tonight. Enjoy!

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
SlackerUprising.com
MichaelMoore.com

[Enabler]

Cool. I will definetly watch.

[Knowledged_one]

wow a movie filled with lies and half truths its gotta be awesome

[Caseyelan]

wow a movie filled with lies and half truths its gotta be awesome

Oh jesus.

It's a fucking film.

Come awnnnnnnnnnnn....

Take what you want out of it... No one is saying its the holy grail.

You have a brain? Use it.

[angrymissy]

Michael Moore could make a movie about kittens playing in the grass and people would immediately say it was full of lies.

[drjoek]

Free is still too much to pay for that lying fat fucks useless drivel. Have you seen the size of this load recently?

[Caseyelan]

blah blah blah blah

yeah, we get it already

[hammersavage]

Michael Moore could make a movie about kittens playing in the grass and people would immediately say it was full of lies.

That grass is in America! Love it or leave it motherfucker. These colors don't run.

[reillyluck]

i wish to thank you in advance!!!

[KnoxHarrington]

Free is still too much to pay for that lying fat fucks useless drivel. Have you seen the size of this load recently?



He's fat so he's stupid!

[drjoek]

yeah, we get it already



Oh I see you're the only one who can have an opinion. I'll keep that in mind from now on

[Enabler]

Free is still too much to pay for that lying fat fucks useless drivel. Have you seen the size of this load recently?

Are you a republican deadhead? Do you have a "deadhead sticker on your cadillac?" Or do you just hate Moore because he's fat?

[Hottub]

Michael Moore could make a movie about kittens playing in the grass and people would immediately say it was full of lies.

Probably because he would figure out a way to do it. He has a track record.

Micheal Moore, his free movie and his agenda can eat a fat dick.

[Caseyelan]

Oh I see you're the only one who can have an opinion. I'll keep that in mind from now on

No... but I was voicing mine against yours.

get it?

it's called a disagreement.

[Freakshow]

I'm going to give away the end. "Put down the bong and go vote." I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference.

[MisterSmith]

I KNEW IT! Michael Moore and Caseyelan are the SAME PERSON and the opening post proves it! It is written in the first person and I have never seen both of them together in the same place at the same time.

Chalk one up for Colombo over here. :thumbup:












:tongue:

[A.J.]

Michael Moore could make a movie about kittens playing in the grass and people would immediately say it was full of lies.

Only if he claimed that George W. Bush killed those kittens while he was on the longest Presidential vacation in history, away from the neo-cons who tell him what to do.

[drjoek]

I don't get all the Michael Moore apologists. It has very little to do with his politics actually and more todo with his self agrandizing bullshit I think I can alter the election with his films all of which(in my opinion thereeveryone happy?)Arejust borish and self centered

[drjoek]

No... but I was voicing mine against yours.

get it?

it's called a disagreement.

Board fight (damn it I have no smileys with this blackberry). How about LOL

[epo]

I'm neither a Michael Moore apologist nor a hater.

But I've never understood the vitriol from the right towards his work. He's no different than other documentarians...some of it is good...some of it is horseshit. Either way, he is honest enough to have a point-of-view that is obviously populist in nature.

I'll be the first to admit that his style can be annoying, but honestly if the man shows up at your door with a camera...you probably fucked up and deserve to deal with him.

And we do live in America and have the right not to watch.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm neither a Michael Moore apologist nor a hater.

But I've never understood the vitriol from the right towards his work. He's no different than other documentarians...some of it is good...some of it is horseshit. Either way, he is honest enough to have a point-of-view that is obviously populist in nature.

I'll be the first to admit that his style can be annoying, but honestly if the man shows up at your door with a camera...you probably fucked up and deserve to deal with him.

And we do live in America and have the right not to watch.

Exactly. People hate him and his politics, fine, whatever...but the repeated attempts to slam him as a "sham documentarian" or a "liar" compared to mythical documentarians who don't make documentaries to argue their agends and opinions are just ridiculous.

[MisterSmith]

I'm neither a Michael Moore apologist nor a hater.

But I've never understood the vitriol from the right towards his work. He's no different than other documentarians...some of it is good...some of it is horseshit. Either way, he is honest enough to have a point-of-view that is obviously populist in nature.

I'll be the first to admit that his style can be annoying, but honestly if the man shows up at your door with a camera...you probably fucked up and deserve to deal with him.

And we do live in America and have the right not to watch.

Very well put sir, and I agree.

However, I think that some people have a problem with Moore claiming that something is "true" when (in some cases) it could be a slanted view of the situation; it is true if you look at it from the given perspective, but not an absolute truth.

And I don't have anything to back that up; it is entirely based upon discussions I have had, heard, or read. I tend to make up my own mind and make my own decisions, so I will check out the movie and see if I like it. :smile:

[Hottub]

Not lies, then. Perhaps think of it more as a fairy tale.
That makes it ok.

[A.J.]

I'll be the first to admit that his style can be annoying, but honestly if the man shows up at your door with a camera...you probably fucked up and deserve to deal with him.

I wish Charlton Heston had shot him when he showed up to his house in "Bowling for Columbine".

[drjoek]

He ll be utilizing the US healthcare system he has so much distain for sooner rather than later. He's a mess

[ChrisTheCop]

If it's free, it's for me. But Moore's credibility begins and ends with Roger and Me.
I'll watch it with a cupful of grains of salt.

[K.C.]

I'll check it out, but I still haven't seen Sicko yet.

The first half of Fahrenheit is brilliant, where he goes to all the hayseed towns after 9/11 and talks to them about the terror threat in their town.

[drjoek]

I'll check it out, but I still haven't seen Sicko yet.

The first half of Fahrenheit is brilliant, where he goes to all the hayseed towns after 9/11 and talks to them about the terror threat in their town.



Making fun of hayseeds should be left to RonnieB

[Furtherman]

Remember when he called out President Bush for his "fictitious" war in Iraq at the 2003 Oscars?



Right on the money with that one.

[Caseyelan]

Remember when he called out President Bush for his "fictitious" war in Iraq at the 2003 Oscars?



Right on the money with that one.


Yeah, I really enjoy his work... I like to hear things and decide for myself whats bullshit. I LOVE TAKING MICHAEL MOORE HATERS to the films... Cause they leave angry and ready to do research to prove him wrong.

I could give a shit if anyone likes his style... His style gets people interactive and reading about important things.

[K.C.]

It's pretty easy to tell what's reality, and what's Michael's opinion in his films.

For instance, in Bowling For Columbine, he's pretty dead on about the correlation between violent crimes and weapons possession in different countries throughout the world. He's also pretty dead on about fear peddling in the media.


Now...when he decides to walk door to door in Canada to demonstrate, why the fact that none of them lock their doors is a sign that they're more civilized....meh....that's his opinion.


Casey's right. You take what you want out of it.


Nobody should act like he's spreading gospel, or on the flip side, nobody should act like because he puts it on film, it's going to be taken as gospel.

[KatPw]

I don't get all the Michael Moore apologists. It has very little to do with his politics actually and more todo with his self agrandizing bullshit I think I can alter the election with his films all of which(in my opinion thereeveryone happy?)Arejust borish and self centered

All documentaries have an agenda. All writing can be seen as having an agenda. Personally, I like seeing/reading multiple opinions regarding an issue. That way I can make an informed decision of my own. Are their exaggerations and half-truths in Moore's documentaries? Yes, but the same can be said about other documentaries and their makers.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

in my best Pacino Voice


I'm a FAN of him



I enjoy what Moore brings to the table, any haterzzz just bring out the true republican in them

[A.J.]

Are their exaggerations and half-truths in Moore's documentaries? Yes, but the same can be said about other documentaries and their makers.

Some guys with skinned heads were saying that very thing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Shoah_film.png

[EddieMoscone]

Ficus 2008!

[Caseyelan]

Ficus 2008!

I vote ficus too!

[SP1!]

I'm neither a Michael Moore apologist nor a hater.

But I've never understood the vitriol from the right towards his work. He's no different than other documentarians...some of it is good...some of it is horseshit. Either way, he is honest enough to have a point-of-view that is obviously populist in nature.

I'll be the first to admit that his style can be annoying, but honestly if the man shows up at your door with a camera...you probably fucked up and deserve to deal with him.

And we do live in America and have the right not to watch.

As whacky as people find the haters the apologists are not that much different, they love him just because he conforms to their point of views, if it was some moron on the right they would be the ones bitching.

The only thing I want is to stop is passing off his movies as documentaries and label them for what they are 2 hour opinion pieces.

[Doctor Manhattan]

The only thing I want is to stop is passing off his movies as documentaries and label them for what they are 2 hour opinion pieces.

You want them to create a new genre for his films? Documentary fits even with the slant he puts on everything. It's hard to find a truly unbiased documentary. One should never just accept what any one source tells them.

I'm think Michael Moore is full of shit, but he makes great films. How's that opinion fall in this thread?

The free download is only available to those residing in the United States and Canada. In order to receive the free download on September 23rd, you must confirm that you are a resident of the United States or Canada.

Fuck the rest of the world. North Americans* are the only ones who count.

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[epo]

As whacky as people find the haters the apologists are not that much different, they love him just because he conforms to their point of views, if it was some moron on the right they would be the ones bitching.

The only thing I want is to stop is passing off his movies as documentaries and label them for what they are 2 hour opinion pieces.

You seriously have no idea what a documentary is. There are many forms of documentaries...and Moore films a very distinctive style.

Moore films what are known as "persuasive documentaries" rather than the traditionally viewed "Recording an event" style of documentary. To think that Moore's work is not to be filed under the umbrella of documentary is simply a lack of understanding of the total genre.

[stinkbud]

Its no fun if I am encouraged to download it :(

Maybe Ill watch my Dark Knight bootleg again

[EddieMoscone]

I vote ficus too!

I loved that show...

[WampusCrandle]

as much as he is biased, i still love his documentaries. im so ready to get it tonight!

[KatPw]

Some guys with skinned heads were saying that very thing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Shoah_film.png

Okay, your point is what, that Moore is like skinheads? Or that there are no exaggerations or half-truths in Shoah? I didn't say all docs and their makers, I said other docs and their makers.

[TheMojoPin]

The only thing I want is to stop is passing off his movies as documentaries and label them for what they are 2 hour opinion pieces.

That's what all documentaries of that style are...the opinions/argument/thesis of the documentarian. Please show me all of the unbiased personal documentaries out there.

[Fezticle98]

Not free for ESD. For him, $1000.

[DolaMight]

I heard that too. Word is there's a free Micheal Moore sextape circulating the net.

[Knowledged_one]

I heard that too. Word is there's a free Micheal Moore sextape circulating the net.

Finally we find out how Sheepy lost his virginity

[foodcourtdruide]

As whacky as people find the haters the apologists are not that much different, they love him just because he conforms to their point of views, if it was some moron on the right they would be the ones bitching.

The only thing I want is to stop is passing off his movies as documentaries and label them for what they are 2 hour opinion pieces.

How exactly would you define a documentary? Do you think the only true documentaries that exist are those films where the camera crew tries to assimilate as much as possible with an African tribe without ever interacting with them?

[Knowledged_one]

You seriously have no idea what a documentary is. There are many forms of documentaries...and Moore films a very distinctive style.

Moore films what are known as "persuasive documentaries" rather than the traditionally viewed "Recording an event" style of documentary. To think that Moore's work is not to be filed under the umbrella of documentary is simply a lack of understanding of the total genre.

lying and making things up and telling half truths is not a style

and i would call his style as mockumentary

[Fezticle98]

lying and making things up and telling half truths is not a style

and i would call his style as mockumentary

Yeah, that's not how you make a documentary. That's how you start a war.

[Knowledged_one]

Yeah, that's not how you make a documentary. That's how you start a war.

You know i was gonna try to rip into this but to be honest you called that one exactly right

+1 for you my good man

[SP1!]

You want them to create a new genre for his films? Documentary fits even with the slant he puts on everything. It's hard to find a truly unbiased documentary. One should never just accept what any one source tells them.

I'm think Michael Moore is full of shit, but he makes great films. How's that opinion fall in this thread?

I think he spins it just like oreilly but he feels hes justified cause hes doing good in the world in his eyes. Its the same load of shit like fox news just with a leftist spin but everyone chooses to ignore the spin when he does it and drag people on the right over the coals. I guess its the double standard I hate, but then hollyweird likes that opinion, huh!?

You seriously have no idea what a documentary is. There are many forms of documentaries...and Moore films a very distinctive style.

Moore films what are known as "persuasive documentaries" rather than the traditionally viewed "Recording an event" style of documentary. To think that Moore's work is not to be filed under the umbrella of documentary is simply a lack of understanding of the total genre.
Just admit its an opinion piece that you agree with thats why you think its spot on. Hes full of shit has been proven to do creative (i.e. lying) editing or outright change newspaper headlines to fit his narrow view of the truth.

That's what all documentaries of that style are...the opinions/argument/thesis of the documentarian. Please show me all of the unbiased personal documentaries out there.

Blue Planet

For the most part you are right but his films are complete bullshit most times, for one thing he fails to mention that dozens of gun laws were broken for columbine, if even one of those were enforced it never would have happened. Yet somehow he uses that to justify harsher gun laws and making them out right illegal.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think he spins it just like oreilly but he feels hes justified cause hes doing good in the world in his eyes. Its the same load of shit like fox news just with a leftist spin but everyone chooses to ignore the spin when he does it and drag people on the right over the coals. I guess its the double standard I hate, but then hollyweird likes that opinion, huh!?.

Everyone chooses to ignore the spin!?? Michael Moore is critisized constantly.

[TheMojoPin]

Blue Planet

No. This was the example brought up when I menioned this before...there is a difference between what I'll call "educational" documentaries that are designed to be as broad and detached as possible and "personal" documentaries that revolve around a filmmaker or filmmakers focusing on a specific event or agenda or person and trying to covince the audience of their (the filmmakers') opinion or viewpoint.

The Corporation
The Fog of War
Mr. Death
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
The Thin Blue Line
Why We Fight
Taxi to the Dark Side
Ghosts of Abu Grahib

Films like those are expressly different in purpose and style than something like Blue Planet because those films inherrently have an agenda because the filmmaker is trying to argue or convince us of a point. Moore fits right into that style of "personal" documentarian. He's often much more sensational than people in that genre, but he ultimately fits right in to the category. Every documentary is edited and tailored to suit the director's opinion/intentions/arguments. Is this letting Moore off the hook? No, but to act like he's not "like" his contemporaries and isn't making documentaries isn't realistic.

[GreatAmericanZero]

its cool that he gives away a movie for free. I like people who make stuff free.


I would watch it tonight but i had to watch that show on CBS where the hot chick lives next to the nerds. I also have Michael Clayton on my dvr..i dont know

[epo]

Just admit its an opinion piece that you agree with thats why you think its spot on. Hes full of shit has been proven to do creative (i.e. lying) editing or outright change newspaper headlines to fit his narrow view of the truth.


Thanks for not answering my point and bitching about the content of his films, rather than the style.

[celery]

Yeah, that's not how you make a documentary. That's how you start a war.

Brilliant.

[A.J.]

Okay, your point is what, that Moore is like skinheads? Or that there are no exaggerations or half-truths in Shoah? I didn't say all docs and their makers, I said other docs and their makers.

I was just going for a funny...unsuccessfully it would seem.

[boonanas]

Shutup crybabies the movie is free. No one is forcing you to watch it.

[Caseyelan]

Watching now.

[drjoek]

Watching now.

You waited till Dave left to preserve the bet. Good thinking

[SP1!]

Everyone chooses to ignore the spin!?? Michael Moore is critisized constantly.

OK every on the liberal or "government save me" side ignores his spin and accept it as gospel, he has a few facts but for the most part he has spin, if you want change just put the facts out there and quit fucking preaching to me.

[TheMojoPin]

OK every on the liberal or "government save me" side ignores his spin and accept it as gospel, he has a few facts but for the most part he has spin, if you want change just put the facts out there and quit fucking preaching to me.

Please find me another documentarian with work as publically and widely scrutinized as Moore's. There are some people who take basically any documentary they see as "gospel." Stop tagging them as all "liberals."

[PD]

I don't know if anyone brought it up, but I couldn't help think of this thread when I saw a commercial for this last night.

http://americancarol.com/

[A.J.]

I will never forgive Michael Moore for blowing up Team Base and almost killing Spotswoode.

[SP1!]

No. This was the example brought up when I menioned this before...there is a difference between what I'll call "educational" documentaries that are designed to be as broad and detached as possible and "personal" documentaries that revolve around a filmmaker or filmmakers focusing on a specific event or agenda or person and trying to covince the audience of their (the filmmakers') opinion or viewpoint.

The Corporation
The Fog of War
Mr. Death
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
The Thin Blue Line
Why We Fight
Taxi to the Dark Side
Ghosts of Abu Grahib

Films like those are expressly different in purpose and style than something like Blue Planet because those films inherrently have an agenda because the filmmaker is trying to argue or convince us of a point. Moore fits right into that style of "personal" documentarian. He's often much more sensational than people in that genre, but he ultimately fits right in to the category. Every documentary is edited and tailored to suit the director's opinion/intentions/arguments. Is this letting Moore off the hook? No, but to act like he's not "like" his contemporaries and isn't making documentaries isn't realistic.
I didnt see blue planet in the same vein as an educational film, it was informative which is where a documentary should be, moore misses the mark because he tries to inject his opinion into every little detail. Penn and teller do a better job on bullshit than moore does in his films, they are objective without being preachy.

Thanks for not answering my point and bitching about the content of his films, rather than the style.
I have addressed it, hes a self important douche and people that praise him only do so because they agree with his opinion. It bugs me because people are completely ignorant, they actually believe one of the new candidates will save america when neither one of them will fix shit. I love all the praise barney frank is getting for getting tough with the new buyout passed through congress with 5 short years ago he voted against over sight because he said "fannie mae and freddie mac are great financial institutions in no danger of collapsing". Its short term memory and the american people are stupid, thats why hes trying to get films out as close to election time as possible, he knows if it came out earlier everyone would forget about it by november.

[TheMojoPin]

I didnt see blue planet in the same vein as an educational film, it was informative which is where a documentary should be, moore misses the mark because he tries to inject his opinion into every little detail. Penn and teller do a better job on bullshit than moore does in his films, they are objective without being preachy.

But Penn & Teller are not objective at all. They're going into each show with the idea that they want to convince everyone watching of their opinions and arguments. That's not objective. Personal or "agenda" documentaries basically can never be objective. They exist completely around the idea of arguing or defending specific viewpoints. Blue Planet doesn't have a personal agenda outside of what footage was chosen to be shot and then selected in the editing room.

[Knowledged_one]

Please find me another documentarian with work as publically and widely scrutinized as Moore's. There are some people who take basically any documentary they see as "gospel." Stop tagging them as all "liberals."

Roger Nygard is criticized by the biggest fan base of america for how he portrays them

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/trekkies.JPG

[Caseyelan]

Taking a break at the 70min mark to hear some ron and fez.

Anywhooo..... Review is eh.... He has made better films.

I love watching his movies normally, but this one is alot of clips of his speaking engagements in 2004 when he was doing his slacker uprising tour in support of getting people registered to vote.

Some is good, Some is funny..... But alot is performances from Tom Morello, Steve Earle, Joan Baez and (THE WORST THING EVER) Eddie Vedder covering Cat Stevens.

Some real great moments were shown unedited as a group of right wing christians pray for the devil that is michael and find themselves out numbered and they leave on what looks to be their own accord.

Michael is never at a loss for words.
I do feel he has become a little big for his boots when he has to show his intro to EVERY city he speaks to with people applauding and cheering and chanting. WE GET IT. LOTS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Other then that... I look forward to see how it ends.... Although no ending will really suffice since we all know it already..... GW still got elected, we are still at war, our economy is grim and every single civil rights act is slowly being rolled back by the republicans.


Just my 2 cents.

[SP1!]

Please find me another documentarian with work as publically and widely scrutinized as Moore's. There are some people who take basically any documentary they see as "gospel." Stop tagging them as all "liberals."

I don't have to tag them, they do that themselves. His films are only out there public like that because of his rhetoric and controversy he creates himself to make him look like hes doing something to save the world.

I would have more respect for moore if he would not support either party but his bias shows from his constant support of the old guard of the democrats, if he would just got off and support a 3rd party or individual he wouldn't be as inflammatory. He knows this so he constantly creates false controversy just to get him as much publicity as possible.

[SP1!]

But Penn & Teller are not objective at all. They're going into each show with the idea that they want to convince everyone watching of their opinions and arguments. That's not objective. Personal or "agenda" documentaries basically can never be objective. They exist completely around the idea of arguing or defending specific viewpoints. Blue Planet doesn't have a personal agenda outside of what footage was chosen to be shot and then selected in the editing room.

Have you read their interviews on the subject? They state as much but they present both sides, where does moore ever do that? He uses clips, even out of order clips to say hes right and Im still waiting for the edit for columbine that if any one of the laws were enforced it never would have happened.

Oh and penn and teller never claimed to be a documentary, they state its an opinion show up front, moore is the polar opposite of that. I dont hate moore, I think hes misguided and his films are juvenile at best, tantamount to a kid on the playground screaming hes right.

[Knowledged_one]

Some real great moments were shown unedited as a group of right wing christians pray for the devil that is michael and find themselves out numbered and they leave on what looks to be their own accord.

Im sure that it was unedited because Moore has never done selective editing before to show something in his movies :unsure:

[Caseyelan]

Some real great moments were shown unedited as a group of right wing christians pray for the devil that is michael and find themselves out numbered and they leave on what looks to be their own accord.

Im sure that it was unedited because Moore has never done selective editing before to show something in his movies :unsure:


Maybe you should ignore this thread... It clearly isn't pleasing you.

[A.J.]

Roger Nygard is criticized by the biggest fan base of america for how he portrays them

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/trekkies.JPG

Trekkies are crazy and belong in the asylum on Elba II with Garth of Izar.

[Knowledged_one]

Maybe you should ignore this thread... It clearly isn't pleasing you.

Maybe you should just ignore me because clearly im not pleasing you

Seriously dont tell me what to do

[TheMojoPin]

Have you read their interviews on the subject? They state as much but they present both sides, where does moore ever do that? He uses clips, even out of order clips to say hes right and Im still waiting for the edit for columbine that if any one of the laws were enforced it never would have happened.

P&T are still going into each episode with the idea that their conclusion is right and they want to convince those watching of that. It's basically impossible to be objective if you're working with personal opinions...giving a couple minutes (at best) facetime to an opposing view isn't "objective" or "balanced." I'm not sayin this to condemn them; I love their show, but they're not objective at all, and it's unrealistic to expect people to be "objective" when they're making shows or films centered around their persona opinions.

Oh and penn and teller never claimed to be a documentary, they state its an opinion show up front, moore is the polar opposite of that. I dont hate moore, I think hes misguided and his films are juvenile at best, tantamount to a kid on the playground screaming hes right.

I didn't say P&T were making documentaries: you brought them up so I ran with it. And why does Moore have to run a disclaimer that his films are his opinions? That should be automatically understood with any personal or agenda documentary. They're obviously his opinions and his views of events. That's the case with all personal or agenda documentaries. The filmmakers don't need to make explicit disclaimers about their opinions defining their films because that's the very nature of the films they make.

[boonanas]

Maybe you should just ignore me because clearly im not pleasing you

Seriously dont tell me what to do

Boo hoo. How old are you?

[boonanas]

Maybe you should just ignore me because clearly im not pleasing you

Seriously dont tell me what to do

Ron just now: "We have the most sensitive listeners."

[Knowledged_one]

Boo hoo. How old are you?

Old enough to know that you make no difference to me whatsoever

[booster11373]

I don't think people in this country understand how the Constitution and dissent are supposed to work!

Spoon fed corporate propaganda from corporate media with absolutely no fact checking A-OK collusion between business and government not a problem

Sporting events and organzations used to promoted a lie not a problem

but...........

One guy makes a movie that expresses views to the opposite WELL FUCK HIM, HE IS AN UN-AMERICAN DOUCHEBAG

[Caseyelan]

Maybe you should just ignore me because clearly im not pleasing you

Seriously dont tell me what to do

I didn't, it was a suggestion.

I have no right to tell you what to do...... Just saying... You seem to be taking a thread about a film as a slap to your face.


It was not intended.

[PD]

Maybe you should just ignore me because clearly im not pleasing you

Seriously dont tell me what to do

relax.
as Casey said she was suggesting it as nice advice. I haven't read much here because I so disagree with some posts and feel it is a waste to answer them.

[Caseyelan]

relax.
as Casey said she was suggesting it as nice advice. I haven't read much here because I so disagree with some posts and feel it is a waste to answer them.

oh pd, its like i know you.....................................

[PD]

oh pd, its like i know you.....................................


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[Caseyelan]

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Everything about this was funny.

The site, The domain, The music.............

Tenty (http://www.fbatentcompany.co.uk/videos/videos.aspx)

[SatCam]

So did anyone actually watch the film? I just finished it. It is basically just showing clips of his different stops at college campuses right before the '08 election. Some press interviews and news segments mixed in. Also some live musical acts.

There was no voice over and no taking to the street like he has done in his other films (well actually I've only seen Bowling for Columbine).

The message was positive, there were a few parts that made me feel good. Not really a big fan of his films, especially the editing in this one. There were a lot of crowd shots. a lot. it got on my nerves



Good watch for a boring tuesday night. Probably wouldnt watch again due to the amount of films that are more interesting and thought provoking than this

[PD]

Everything about this was funny.

The site, The domain, The music.............

Tenty (http://www.fbatentcompany.co.uk/videos/videos.aspx)

:thumbup:

[Enabler]

So did anyone actually watch the film?

This movie might have been huge if Kerry had won the election in 2004. Its election time and Moore decided to dust this footage off to energize people to vote. Which is all well and good, but knowing that Bush won the election in 2004 makes watching this movie slightly depressing. All that being said, I enjoy Michael Moore's documentaries. This one is more in the vain of "The Big One" than "Farhenhitte 911" or "Roger and Me." Its no epic but its a good watch.