View Full Version : So what was that drama about?
Part of my intuition says just leave it alone...it's some ridiculous PalTalk thing that I probably have no interest in.
Yet, I am a bit intrigued as to why a girl was hysterically crying on the air.
So what happened last Friday to Frenchie and her PalTalk room?
ChrisBrown
08-18-2008, 10:28 AM
I was wondering the same thing...man, she was really upset.
angrymissy
08-18-2008, 10:30 AM
They taped the show live on Paltalk Friday afternoon and broadcast it to the Ron and Fez Show Room.
Earlier in the show, they said something like people in her room (Big Ass Room) were saying bad things about the show and that's why they were broadcasting it to the Ron and Fez Show Room. Since that is her room, she thought she upset Ron and Fez.
That's it.
Doogie
08-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Thats what the tears were over?!?!?!
I tuned in at the end of the conversation and thought maybe someone died...I didnt know it was over a little comment like that. Wow.
:blink:
drjoek
08-18-2008, 10:34 AM
I can't stand how much that Paltalk has hijacked the R&F show.
:thumbdown:
They taped the show live on Paltalk Friday afternoon and broadcast it to the Ron and Fez Show Room.
Earlier in the show, they said something like people in her room (Big Ass Room) were being mean and that's why they were broadcasting it to the Ron and Fez Show Room.
That's it.
Wow...that's even less interesting that I could have possibly imagined.
From the response, I would have guess a bunch of people were savagely attacking her.
I can't stand how much that Paltalk has hijacked the R&F show.
:thumbdown:
QFT
I don't begrudge people it...and, I'm sure it's fun for both the boys, and people who listen/watch the show through it.
But it's like all these people are jockeying for the favor of the hosts, by trying to one up each other...and for what?
mikeyboy
08-18-2008, 10:39 AM
But it's like all these people are jockeying for the favor of the hosts, by trying to one up each other...and for what?
For the most part, it's not really happening. Most people don't care which room stuff goes in because you can stream it into the other room anyway.
drjoek
08-18-2008, 10:41 AM
All it seems to be is a bunch of guys jacking off on their web cam.
Not sure why that appeals to the guys from the show..
Chigworthy
08-18-2008, 10:41 AM
But it's like all these people are jockeying for the favor of the hosts, by trying to one up each other...and for what?
I can't stand that about Paltalk. At least it never happens here.
Sue_Bender
08-18-2008, 10:45 AM
All it seems to be is a bunch of guys jacking off on their web cam.
Not sure why that appeals to the guys from the show..
Wait, you can't understand the interest?!
angrymissy
08-18-2008, 10:45 AM
But it's like all these people are jockeying for the favor of the hosts, by trying to one up each other...and for what?
INTERNET CRED!
Furtherman
08-18-2008, 10:46 AM
I can't stand that about Paltalk. At least it never happens here.
Speak for yourself!
EliSnow
08-18-2008, 10:46 AM
Wow...that's even less interesting that I could have possibly imagined.
From the response, I would have guess a bunch of people were savagely attacking her.
Your Bill and Ted sig pic is much too big. Can't be more than 300 x 100.
Your Bill and Ted sig pic is much too big. Can't be more than 300 x 100.
317 x 110 is much?
I get the point, though.
Hottub
08-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Jeff was topless.
Carry on.
angrymissy
08-18-2008, 10:53 AM
I know I saw at least hottub AND marcwac being filthy paltalkers on Friday, admiring Jeff's shirtlessness
mikeyboy
08-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Hottub's a closeted Paltalker!!!!!
Friday
08-18-2008, 10:54 AM
jeff's hairless manchest is always on display.
it's a cheap thrill but it never gets old :wink:
badorties
08-18-2008, 10:56 AM
INTERNET CRED!
oh ...
Hottub
08-18-2008, 10:57 AM
I know I saw at least hottub AND marcwac being filthy paltalkers on Friday, admiring Jeff's shirtlessness
Could have been more than that, Missy.
INTERNET CRED!
Well, when you put it that way...
I'm off to buy a PalTalk cam and set up a third room!
Mine'll be the Ralph Nader of Ron & Fez rooms...talking trash about the other two while no one pays attention.
:devil2:
drjoek
08-18-2008, 11:00 AM
All it seems to be is a bunch of guys jacking off on their web cam.
Not sure why that appeals to the guys from the show..
Hottub's a closeted Paltalker!!!!!
Could have been more than that, Missy.
hmmm
realmenhatelife
08-18-2008, 11:01 AM
It seems like one of the most sure fire ways to interrupt your enjoyment of something is to become personally involved with artificial social structures dedicated to it.
Sue_Bender
08-18-2008, 11:03 AM
It seems like one of the most sure fire ways to interrupt your enjoyment of something is to become personally involved with artificial social structures dedicated to it.
Stop making sense.
Midkiff
08-18-2008, 11:04 AM
I can't stand how much that Paltalk has hijacked the R&F show.
:thumbdown:
QFMFT!!!!!
I like PalTalk, but it definitely has hijacked both shows way too much.
drjoek
08-18-2008, 11:05 AM
Stop making sense.
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/3/6/8/16568630-16568632-large.jpg
badorties
08-18-2008, 11:19 AM
QFMFT!!!!!
I like PalTalk, but it definitely has hijacked both shows way too much.
i thought a few months ago you could say that (not that it ever bothered me)
but lately, it's seems to be occasionally mentioned on either show (hardly on O&A)
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 11:54 AM
I was there as the drama went down. If y'all remember, they aired the hour long interview ronnie did with Randy Newman last thursday for the last hour of the show. In the room in question, we werent all that appreciative of the interview and some of us had some negative things to say about it. It got more and more as the interview progressed. Now, it was nowhere near what happens in the O&A rooms. Just a few of us expressing how we felt that randy was a tad boring. At the end of it all Ronnie pops in the room and says "Fuck you morons" and someone there said fuck you back. That was the drama. After that happened the behind-the-scenes folks who know Ron enough to engage in PM's with him said that he really was pissed and that he would never go back into frenchy's room. I wasn't buying it that Ronnie would be so easily offended by some dumb-asses in an internet chat room and I said so, but I was told by people in the know that he really was upset.
Apparently Ron was in a bad mood thursday and the randy bashing was something that really pissed him off. From the interview, and from my years of listening to the show, I guess that Ronnie is a HUGE Randy Newman fan and it must have been a big honor for him to score this interview. No one likes to see something they are passionate about bashed and it must have really got to him. I was there with the rest, and I had a few "boring" and "zzzzz" comments...even a bunch of "Left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot" (Family Guy/Randy Newman reference) zingers. Not to bash Ronnie, he is an interviewer with no equal. But 60 minutes of Randy Newman at the end of a show is a bit much when you are hoping for the last break of the usual fun that goes down when the show is live. We all expected the interview on Sunday when you could listen or not. Suddenly it was on for the last hour of the show and after awhile, the natives got restless.
Frenchy got word of all this and she was understandably upset. The Big ASS room is hers and she has a lot of pride in it. The thought that Ronnie would just stop going there must have been horrible as she is a friend of the show and has been for as long as I can remember. Hence her call in. Meanwhile there was a "secret show" being taped live on paltalk and she called in as it was happening.
Now the drama is over people. We have all moved on. Internet + Drama = douche chill moments.
Just remember this people.... Internet Drama makes baby jeebus cry.
EDIT: Please understand, ordinarily I wouldnt have commented on this. I would normally just let it all go out of respect for the Show, for Frenchy and for the Big ASS Room where I am an admin. But since it DID go out on the air today and it was pretty ambiguous as to why it was such a big deal, i feel someone who was there should explain.
booster11373
08-18-2008, 11:54 AM
Paltalk and drama?.......I dont believe it
Sue_Bender
08-18-2008, 12:06 PM
I was there as the drama went down. If y'all remember, they aired the hour long interview ronnie did with Randy Newman last thursday for the last hour of the show. In the room in question, we werent all that appreciative of the interview and some of us had some negative things to say about it. It got more and more as the interview progressed. Now, it was nowhere near what happens in the O&A rooms. Just a few of us expressing how we felt that randy was a tad boring. At the end of it all Ronnie pops in the room and says "Fuck you morons" and someone there said fuck you back. That was the drama. After that happened the behind-the-scenes folks who know Ron enough to engage in PM's with him said that he really was pissed and that he would never go back into frenchy's room. I wasn't buying it that Ronnie would be so easily offended by some dumb-asses in an internet chat room and I said so, but I was told by people in the know that he really was upset.
Apparently Ron was in a bad mood thursday and the randy bashing was something that really pissed him off. From the interview, and from my years of listening to the show, I guess that Ronnie is a HUGE Randy Newman fan and it must have been a big honor for him to score this interview. No one likes to see something they are passionate about bashed and it must have really got to him. I was there with the rest, and I had a few "boring" and "zzzzz" comments...even a bunch of "Left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot" (Family Guy/Randy Newman reference) zingers. Not to bash Ronnie, he is an interviewer with no equal. But 60 minutes of Randy Newman at the end of a show is a bit much when you are hoping for the last break of the usual fun that goes down when the show is live. We all expected the interview on Sunday when you could listen or not. Suddenly it was on for the last hour of the show and after awhile, the natives got restless.
Frenchy got word of all this and she was understandably upset. The Big ASS room is hers and she has a lot of pride in it. The thought that Ronnie would just stop going there must have been horrible as she is a friend of the show and has been for as long as I can remember. Hence her call in. Meanwhile there was a "secret show" being taped live on paltalk and she called in as it was happening.
Now the drama is over people. We have all moved on. Internet + Drama = douche chill moments.
Just remember this people.... Internet Drama makes baby jeebus cry.
Apparently, interviewing Randy Newman is the worst your radio hero can do.
I don't get the hate for a legitimate entertainer (whether you care for his work or not) when Mr. B. is a part of the conversation.
Is it because he isn't a "friend of the show"?
I mean, they ALWAYS bring "interesting" to the "airwaves".
If you know the bore=great radio, right?
Never met the fuck=Zzzzzzzzzz.
I think I've figured it out.
booster11373
08-18-2008, 12:10 PM
Lets get a petition going!
I will also keep some torches and pitchforks near my radio so the next time something like this happens we can storm the studio
badorties
08-18-2008, 12:11 PM
why would you jeer a show, or feel the need to criticize professionals doing their job ... would you expect a legitimate response to calling a show 'boring'
there's this line (as fans) that people feel way too comfortable to cross ... radio shows, blogs, stadiums and concerts are littered with un-necessary opinions
the newman interview was great, especially his response to the family guy references ... of the 60 hours a month of entertainment R&F provide, you can't give an hour to let the host geek out a bit
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 12:20 PM
hey, im just letting y'all know where the drama came from. In a chat room, people listening to a show will comment about a show. It isnt "show bashing". If you are not enjoying something you say so to the people who are also commenting. Whats the big deal???
Ever go to a movie and comment that its getting boring? Ever post to a listening thread? Thats what was happening. No big deal. Ronnie got upset and more power to him. It was his show, his effort. He has every right to react however he did.
Yes, the interview had its moments. I did enjoy the part about the Family Guy references. Some of the music was fun too, but it got too long for me and for some of the others who commented on it. If I feel it is dragging and I am sitting in a chat room with others listening to it I will say so to see what everyone else feels.
I for one think we all gotta stop taking ourselves so gosh darned seriously. :wallbash:
And again, it wasnt that awful the "jeering" and the "bashing". Just a few "boring" comments by a handful of listeners. That was it.
GreatAmericanZero
08-18-2008, 12:23 PM
Looks like the BIG ASS room got a BIG ASS FACE! Thanks for the behind-the-scenes story stinkbud
i felt pretty uncomfortable during Frenchy's call but its all silliness. i did stop working for a few minutes to listen so it was good radio
badorties
08-18-2008, 12:28 PM
i don't get why you feel the need to comment ... especially something so dismissive and negative, and where the host could see it
i've see shitty performances, but never felt the need to let the anyone else in the audiance
Knowledged_one
08-18-2008, 12:28 PM
why would you jeer a show, or feel the need to criticize professionals doing their job ... would you expect a legitimate response to calling a show 'boring'
there's this line (as fans) that people feel way too comfortable to cross ... radio shows, blogs, stadiums and concerts are littered with un-necessary opinions
the newman interview was great, especially his response to the family guy references ... of the 60 hours a month of entertainment R&F provide, you can't give an hour to let the host geek out a bit
are you joking people in their job get criticized all the time and have things critiqued by people higher then them if they dont like the way something is done. This isnt Russia circa 1984 you absolutely have teh right to express your opinion on it. And to be quite honest if Ron cant take the honest criticism then he needs to strap on a set and deal with real life instead of belieiving he is some kind of god that people on this board deify him as. And here is the real kicker if this was free then yeah thats a different story but people actually have to pay for their subscriptions and they have more then the right at that time to criticize or complain as these people are the customers
Knowledged_one
08-18-2008, 12:30 PM
i don't get why you feel the need to comment ... especially something so dismissive and negative, and where the host could see it
i've see shitty performances, but never felt the need to let the anyone else in the audiance
I cant believe you have a problem with someone giving their honest opinion on a situation and by not speaking up on a bad performer you are expressing how you feel in a different way by keeping it to yourself while he chose to speak out get over yourself and your holier then thou attitude
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 12:34 PM
i don't get why you feel the need to comment ... especially something so dismissive and negative, and where the host could see it
i've see shitty performances, but never felt the need to let the anyone else in the audiance
so you never participated in an active internet discussion where you posted an opinion about the topic at hand? WHOOPS you just did!!!!
You weren't there. You didn't see it. How can you comment on it now? Same thing IMO
badorties
08-18-2008, 12:39 PM
I cant believe you have a problem with someone giving their honest opinion on a situation and by not speaking up on a bad performer you are expressing how you feel in a different way by keeping it to yourself while he chose to speak out get over yourself and your holier then thou attitude
i'm pretty over myself, and i have no real pretense ... i just don't get the sense of entitlement to be so critical, and particularly in such an intimate & immediate fashion
angrymissy
08-18-2008, 12:43 PM
me chinese
me play joke
me go pee pee
in your coke.
silas
08-18-2008, 12:44 PM
i thought a few months ago you could say that (not that it ever bothered me)
but lately, it's seems to be occasionally mentioned on either show (hardly on O&A)
That's my feeling too.
With O+A, it was ~2 years ago, then, just as quickly (about the time paltalk became a sponsor for awhile?), the paltalk references became almost non-existant; now its "pics are up at ..." which i like.
With R+F, it seemed (to me) that the insider stuff on XM was overdone about the time of the short-lived NY FM show; i find that there has been a very explicit effort to avoid that for a while now.
I don't mind the occasional segments, like todays, that go there....after all, these are some longtime and/or hardcore and/or ~personal friend fans....maybe a bit of explanation to the audience would make these segments more interesting to all?
A bit of background about these "pals", who is Franklyn, the "brooklyn boys" etc would imo make things more enjoyable....kinda like what Opie does
drjoek
08-18-2008, 12:45 PM
I'm trying to care about this whole thing but I can't seem to.
Is this what happened
Frenchy(?) a listener, called into the radio show crying because Ron, a radio host was never going to go into her pal talk room again, even though its a great run room where everyone should feel welcome. A room she started because everyone in another paltalk room, where mean girls are, don't like her.
Is that the bottom line?
Some times I wonder why I listen to this show every day.
Furtherman
08-18-2008, 12:47 PM
*grimaces at coke can on desk*
Drunky McBetidont
08-18-2008, 12:47 PM
are you joking people in their job get criticized all the time and have things critiqued by people higher then them if they dont like the way something is done. This isnt Russia circa 1984 you absolutely have teh right to express your opinion on it. And to be quite honest if Ron cant take the honest criticism then he needs to strap on a set and deal with real life instead of belieiving he is some kind of god that people on this board deify him as. And here is the real kicker if this was free then yeah thats a different story but people actually have to pay for their subscriptions and they have more then the right at that time to criticize or complain as these people are the customers
the fact that paltalkers listen to xm202 content without necessarily paying for an xm subscription (via streaming) may not be well recieved by the new parent company sirius/xm. i will be dropping a line to mel about this. i see many changes in the future for these so called fan rooms. and that is my $12.95 a month talking. fuck crying cunts and their shitty lives.
badorties
08-18-2008, 12:47 PM
i haven't heard that in years
where does something like that come from ...?
Freakshow
08-18-2008, 12:49 PM
so you never participated in an active internet discussion where you posted an opinion about the topic at hand? WHOOPS you just did!!!!
You weren't there. You didn't see it. How can you comment on it now? Same thing IMO
I just have to wonder what people try to accomplish by talking badly about the show. Was someone expecting them to break back into the interview and resume the show. Oh my god InternetGuy507 doesn't like Randy Newman we must stop what we're doing and go back live?
CBG: Last night's "Itchy & Scratchy" was, without a doubt, the worst
episode ever. Rest assured that I was on the Internet within
minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.
Bart: Hey, I know it was great, but what right do you have to complain?
CBG: As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me.
Bart: What? They're giving you thousands of hours of entertainment for
free. What could they possibly owe you? If anything, you owe
them.
CBG: [pauses] Worst episode ever.
Knowledged_one
08-18-2008, 12:50 PM
the fact that paltalkers listen to xm202 content without necessarily paying for an xm subscription (via streaming) may not be well recieved by the new parent company sirius/xm. i will be dropping a line to mel about this. i see many changes in the future for these so called fan rooms. and that is my $12.95 a month talking. fuck crying cunts and their shitty lives.
I see what you are saying but i was more referencing that since people pay for their XM subscriptions then they have the right to criticize as they are customers
Death Metal Moe
08-18-2008, 12:53 PM
The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk.
AnnoyedGrunt
08-18-2008, 12:54 PM
This isn't the first time Ron has had a problem with what people are saying during guests in the listening threads. If it bothers him that much then maybe he shouldn't read them or check out Paltalk. Seems like an easy enough solution.
drjoek
08-18-2008, 12:55 PM
The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk.
LOCK IT UP
Succinct and to the point
GreatAmericanZero
08-18-2008, 12:55 PM
The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk.
see, I could never tell Ron how to do his show.
He chooses to talk about messageboards and paltalk. Maybe you don't think its the funniest thing in the world to talk about, but who knows what else he has to talk about? Who knows if conversation choice 2 will be funnier? Hes not a machine...I imagine the reason he talks about the internet is because that is the funniest thing he can think to talk about at that time
boobieman
08-18-2008, 12:56 PM
me chinese
me play joke
me go pee pee
in your coke.
PEE PEE in a coke...can we see that on Paltalk...just wondering.
SEEEEEYAYAAAAAAAA
Drunky McBetidont
08-18-2008, 12:57 PM
I see what you are saying but i was more referencing that since people pay for their XM subscriptions then they have the right to criticize as they are customers
hell, i comment all the time about the shows on here. and i assumed you were talking about xm subscribers. i just get pissed at the people that steal the content the rest of us pay for. it was not meant as a dig toward you. i have had a problem with this pirated material being broadcast (24 hours a day in some paltalk rooms) for a couple years now. i bet howard would have had the streaming of his show in these rooms shut down as soon as it started.
Freitag
08-18-2008, 12:58 PM
Frenchy and drama?.......I dont believe it
FTFY.
Freakshow
08-18-2008, 12:59 PM
This isn't the first time Ron has had a problem with what people are saying during guests in the listening threads. If it bothers him that much then maybe he shouldn't read them or check out Paltalk. Seems like an easy enough solution.
Ron has mentioned that guests google ron and fez and the thing that comes up is this board. And they see all the negative comments that get posted here and this impacts the show directly as far as guests.
boobieman
08-18-2008, 12:59 PM
i bet howard would have had the streaming of his show in these rooms shut down as soon as it started.
That is why Howard is a old cunt.....
SEEYAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY
Drunky McBetidont
08-18-2008, 01:03 PM
The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk.
great line dmm, i bet dave uses it on board gossip this week. someone who plays death metal drums in unhollowed and has a problem with the amout of attention the show gives to paltalk and other message boards has wrote this: The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk i wonder, who could it be??? :wink:
Enabler
08-18-2008, 01:04 PM
People can comment on the show however they want. If you dont like something go ahead and say it...but how can you not like Randy Newman?
SatCam
08-18-2008, 01:06 PM
are you joking people in their job get criticized all the time and have things critiqued by people higher then them if they dont like the way something is done. This isnt Russia circa 1984 you absolutely have teh right to express your opinion on it. And to be quite honest if Ron cant take the honest criticism then he needs to strap on a set and deal with real life instead of belieiving he is some kind of god that people on this board deify him as. And here is the real kicker if this was free then yeah thats a different story but people actually have to pay for their subscriptions and they have more then the right at that time to criticize or complain as these people are the customers
I think it was fair for Ron to be pissed off at them. It's not that he can't take criticism, but he basically let them into the studio and they chose to be asses towards him (it doesnt help that the interview was personal for him). It's kind've like going to a party where no one likes you. Would you still go? Especially when there's another party where people do like you (the other paltalk room)..........
badmonkey
08-18-2008, 01:08 PM
The important thing is, now Ron knows who runs this shit. He knows where to go for permission before booking guests. He knows which people in paltalk have their fingers on the pulse of comedy. The sky is the limit for you now Ron. Use your new-found resources and shoot for the stars buddy!
AnnoyedGrunt
08-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Ron has mentioned that guests google ron and fez and the thing that comes up is this board. And they see all the negative comments that get posted here and this impacts the show directly as far as guests.
He's brought it up a few times and I guess it hasn't stopped. I really don't know, I've gone back and checked maybe a half dozen listening threads since they've started. People aren't going to change, so he can either throw some weight around and shut down the threads and Paltalk rooms or he can just avoid the stress and stay away.
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 01:20 PM
I just have to wonder what people try to accomplish by talking badly about the show. Was someone expecting them to break back into the interview and resume the show. Oh my god InternetGuy507 doesn't like Randy Newman we must stop what we're doing and go back live?
People....we are putting WAY too much weight in comments made in an active chat. People are there listening to the show and entertaining eachother along the way. I like to listen in paltalk rooms because of the comments. It adds to the fun. Sometimes drama ensues because people take this shit waaaaay too seriously.
Like i said earlier, i wouldn't have commented on this at all. I respect FBP too much to air anything publicly. I respect Ron and Fez and their show as well. I have been a VERY loyal listener since WNEW and I have never missed a show since I discovered them. That includes the days when they were on WJFK. The great thing about paltalk is you can listen with other fans. Most people I am friends with in real life dont have my sense of humor, the sense of humor the allows me to "get" the odd humor put out on XM202. It is refreshing to be able to comment on whats going on with other people in real time. As in having a conversation.
THATS WHAT PALTALK IS FOLKS....PEOPLE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION!!!!
It isnt like posting on a messegeboard saying "worst show ever"...It isnt demanding that they stop this now and go live. Its just a few people getting bored and attempting to entertain themselves as the show progresses.
GreatAmericanZero
08-18-2008, 01:26 PM
people are allowed to talk shit
ron has the right to be angry when people talk shit
sitting on the fence is rather comfortable
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 01:33 PM
people are allowed to talk shit
ron has the right to be angry when people talk shit
sitting on the fence is rather comfortable
QFT!!!
BinaryBimbo
08-18-2008, 01:34 PM
i'm pretty over myself, and i have no real pretense ... i just don't get the sense of entitlement to be so critical, and particularly in such an intimate & immediate fashion
PalTalk is not the chosen fews personal phoneline; we are all out here listening even if they do get special treatment, and Hot Lines. The way I see it it is a part of the show, and nothing broadcast on the show is beyond reproach.
But don't do it anyway.:furious:
BlackSpider
08-18-2008, 01:36 PM
people are allowed to talk shit
ron has the right to be angry when people talk shit...
well put.
end of story...
Death Metal Moe
08-18-2008, 01:45 PM
People can comment on the show however they want. If you dont like something go ahead and say it...but how can you not like Randy Newman?
I don't know but a lot of us are pulling it off.
ahhdurr
08-18-2008, 01:47 PM
see, I could never tell Ron how to do his show.
It's useful to have feedback.
Death Metal Moe
08-18-2008, 01:50 PM
great line dmm, i bet dave uses it on board gossip this week. someone who plays death metal drums in unhollowed and has a problem with the amout of attention the show gives to paltalk and other message boards has wrote this: i wonder, who could it be??? :wink:
Is Dave still doing Board Gossip?
I wouldn't presume to know what Ron should or shouldn't talk about on his show, but I've been feeling like this for awhile, especially since the Unity show. That one made me fucking retch.
Fucking people so pissed off at each other they start their own messageboards, pull their friends there and can't get along as close fans of the greatest radio show on Earth? I still feel a little bad for Chris on that one, he got an ass reaming and I felt he was just trying to bring a few people together.
Yes, in real life you all can't get along but it's just a fucking radio show.
I'm so bored with it all. This is the reason I want nothig to do with the social scene of this messageboard and the show in general. I live an hour from NYC and I only go in for huge events. This drama is dragging the show down when it comes up on air.
booster11373
08-18-2008, 02:00 PM
That was called Board Gossip?
sheesh......... I thought it was Sheepy and HTG's week in review
moochcassidy
08-18-2008, 02:05 PM
at least 50% of the people in any paltalk room at any time are complete cunts
people are allowed to talk shit
ron has the right to be angry when people talk shit
People seem to forget the latter part of that, but that's absolutely true.
If I was doing my job, and someone was sending messages back and forth saying "this fucking blows," my natural reaction would be "fuck you" as well.
There's a whole service/customer relationship thing I always rant about and could go on a lengthy rant about right now, but I'll just say that people have this misconception that if someone is entertaining you, or providing a service, or whatever...and you start bitching about it, that the person providing the service, not only has to take it, but work to please you and make you happy.
(whoever started that 'the customer is always right' bullshit deserves a fork in the eye...as the great Shannon Hamilton says in Mallrats, 'the customer is always an asshole.')
The point is that it's not true, so no one should complain about the fact that a host fights back a little bit.
(That doesn't mean the listener has to back down...i didn't hear the Randy Newman thing, but if I listened and thought it sucked, I'd stick to my opinion).
Anyway...as far as the whole PalTalk thing goes, I wonder how hard it would be to just stream the camera feed from their PalTalk camera and webcast the thing over their Profile Page on XM every day.
They wouldn't get to see the people on the other end, but it'd put an end to this 'my room vs. your room' petty BS.
ChimneyFish
08-18-2008, 02:09 PM
at least 50% of the people in any paltalk room at any time are complete cunts
At least 90% of cunts are cunts.
mikeyboy
08-18-2008, 02:12 PM
at least 50% of the people in any paltalk room at any time are complete cunts
...and mooch is just talking about the admins. :tongue:
moochcassidy
08-18-2008, 02:15 PM
...and mooch is just talking about the admins. :tongue:
i wonder what % fred would give on that one
TheMojoPin
08-18-2008, 02:19 PM
sitting on Fez is rather comfortable
QFT.
Freakshow
08-18-2008, 02:39 PM
People....we are putting WAY too much weight in comments made in an active chat. People are there listening to the show and entertaining eachother along the way. I like to listen in paltalk rooms because of the comments. It adds to the fun. Sometimes drama ensues because people take this shit waaaaay too seriously.
Like i said earlier, i wouldn't have commented on this at all. I respect FBP too much to air anything publicly. I respect Ron and Fez and their show as well. I have been a VERY loyal listener since WNEW and I have never missed a show since I discovered them. That includes the days when they were on WJFK. The great thing about paltalk is you can listen with other fans. Most people I am friends with in real life dont have my sense of humor, the sense of humor the allows me to "get" the odd humor put out on XM202. It is refreshing to be able to comment on whats going on with other people in real time. As in having a conversation.
THATS WHAT PALTALK IS FOLKS....PEOPLE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION!!!!
It isnt like posting on a messegeboard saying "worst show ever"...It isnt demanding that they stop this now and go live. Its just a few people getting bored and attempting to entertain themselves as the show progresses.
But can you appreciate how it would be cumulative, though? You read negative comments on a message board for a week or a year or 5 years, and then you go on paltalk and it's the same thing maybe it's the straw that breaks the camel's back. And, for whatever (good) reason Ron doesn't post here.
I wasn't in the room or anything, so i'm just responding to what is being posted here. Thanks for the thought-out response, budday.
KnoxHarrington
08-18-2008, 02:47 PM
What gets me about this thing is that Ron & Fez, as a gift to the listeners, let them listen in live to a show that wouldn't actually air for a few more days. In fact, in one of those shows, they had "calls" via Paltalk. And the reaction of some people is not "Wow, thanks Ronnie, thanks Fezzie," it's "How can you have it in that other room! I hate those people!"
Fucking babies.
booster11373
08-18-2008, 02:51 PM
Cha De Bugre!!!!!!!!
stinkbud
08-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Very good points Freakshow.
Knox, you missed the point on this one. For once it isnt a "this room gets this, why dont we get this" thing. It was a few people in a room that made comments that pissed Ronnie off. I was there, I was commenting and I may be considered to be one of the offending parties (although I will go on record that I wasnt that bad...same with the rest of us, there must have been five people actively listening and commenting at that point). Ronnie came in the room to express his anger at the situation. Frenchy was worried that this would lead to the end of something she works hard at. I am an admin in the Big ASS Room. I have no cares if one room gets one thing over the other. In the end it all evens out and truth be told, when one thing is broadcast in one room, it is broadcast in both rooms. Yes, some whiny folks bitch about it, but they are in the minority in both rooms. We are all fans of the show and most of us chat in both rooms.
I rarely comment on the show on the boards. I rarely listen to the shows live as I really need a pause button. With O&A on vaca last week i thought it would be fun to participate actively.
See y'all on paltalk
In the words of my ancestors...Gai kuken ahfen yam (http://books.google.com/books?id=8tgL4KUmtMMC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=Gai+kuken+ahfen+yam&source=web&ots=f31JFj7don&sig=_zMeOecrg9P9-9p668eKRx0-H4A&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result)
And with that i will end my comments on this matter.
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 02:55 PM
What gets me about this thing is that Ron & Fez, as a gift to the listeners, let them listen in live to a show that wouldn't actually air for a few more days. In fact, in one of those shows, they had "calls" via Paltalk. And the reaction of some people is not "Wow, thanks Ronnie, thanks Fezzie," it's "How can you have it in that other room! I hate those people!"
Fucking babies.
Seriously. People like to point at me and call me the asshole for my antics on here. And I'm sure there's a lot of chill people on PT I've never met before. I met a few of them at a party and they were delightful. Especially the girl who I thought was 19 and she's like, close to 30.
But getting wrapped up in PT drama is like, four steps below LARPing, imho.
BlackSpider
08-18-2008, 03:08 PM
Seriously. People like to point at me and call me the asshole for my antics on here. And I'm sure there's a lot of chill people on PT I've never met before. I met a few of them at a party and they were delightful. Especially the girl who I thought was 19 and she's like, close to 30.
But getting wrapped up in PT drama is like, four steps below LARPing, imho.
Tell me more about this 30 year old girl that looks 19...
Jubjubs
08-18-2008, 03:11 PM
THATS WHAT PALTALK IS FOLKS....PEOPLE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION!!!!
It's become perfectly clear to me now why I want nothing to do with PalTalk. I'm listening to the radio. That simple. I think I can pull it off all by myself and quite frankly, the last thing I want to hear over my favorite show is a bunch of yapping from people I don't know. Or people I do know, for that matter.
Just sayin'...It's nothing personal, it's the three hours a day when I don't really care hear people chit-chat.
underdog
08-18-2008, 03:31 PM
People like to point at me and call me the asshole for my antics on here.
*points*
You're an asshole.
CofyCrakCocaine
08-18-2008, 03:33 PM
At what point do the attempts at good-naturedly busting the show's balls turn into assholic cuntery that result in the ruination of other people's fun? Seems to me that just letting any guy bugle his fucking opinion and try to hide his passive-aggressiveness with stale overused bits ("zzz"? that's hilarious! I read that one in Ziggy in 1986!!) ultimately degenerates into something that is neither fun, necessary, or should exist at all in the best of all possible worlds.
Case in point, the fucking same ten assholes who kept booing at all the O&A virus shows. Because they thought it would be funny to rehash the same tired shit over and over, the entire series has been wrecked. Even Bill Burr's last stand isn't funny anymore because of these unfunny cunts. Then they go on The 'Nets and spew bullshit about how "THEY JUST NEED THICKER SKIN THE FUCKING PUSSIES IM GLAD THEIR SHOW GOT RUINED LOBSTER CLAWS LOBSTER CLAWZ" etc etc. GTF over yourselves.
Besides, Ron's only human. If he gets pissed off, that's his motherfucking right. Not the first time either- he tells all the N-joke guys to fuck themselves, and the caller who was bashing Lily Tomlin a year ago got a taste of the ol' Bennington hammer drop. It's everyone's right here to respond by being a pompous fuckhead who touts the fact that they paid some tiny sum of money as being proof that they and their opinions are inviolable. That doesn't mean you don't look like a retart. This wasn't directed at anyone in particular btw, but if you want to take offense, be my guest, I could give two shits. Buncha fucking children.
drjoek
08-18-2008, 03:36 PM
Earl's already apologied for Ron's pissed off mood
Thats good enough for me
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 03:42 PM
*points*
You're an asshole.
Just shut up and sing the song, pal.
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Tell me more about this 30 year old girl that looks 19...
Friend of shelle's. Blonde. PT girl.
Just shut up and sing the song, pal.
Are you singing a song about the American dream? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc&feature=related)
BinaryBimbo
08-18-2008, 03:51 PM
At least 90% of cunts are cunts.
50% of the time.
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 04:00 PM
Are you singing a song about the American dream? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc&feature=related)
So, how about this heat?
CofyCrakCocaine
08-18-2008, 04:01 PM
Friend of shelle's. Blonde. PT girl.
Suck/Fuck?
Gmann
08-18-2008, 04:03 PM
This Is Why We Cant Have Anything Nice!!!!
So, how about this heat?
Do you park in handicap spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces?
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Do you park in handicap spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces?
I'm gonna get the Duke, and John Cassavetes, and Lee Marvin, and Sam Peckinpah, and get a case of whiskey, and drive down to Texas...
Death Metal Moe
08-18-2008, 04:41 PM
Capitol N, small y
BIG FUCKIN' Q! I love that fuckin Q don't you?!
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 05:07 PM
Capitol N, small y
BIG FUCKIN' Q! I love that fuckin Q don't you?!
the Q is talkin' to me man, the Q is talking to me! AHHHHHHH!!!!!
Enabler
08-18-2008, 05:32 PM
Tomorrows show opener.....Fez would be down.
Mika--Grace Kelly
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silas
08-18-2008, 05:37 PM
At what point do the attempts at good-naturedly busting the show's balls turn into assholic cuntery that result in the ruination of other people's fun?
Besides, Ron's only human. If he gets pissed off, that's his motherfucking right. Not the first time either- he tells all the N-joke guys to fuck themselves, and the caller who was bashing Lily Tomlin a year ago got a taste of the ol' Bennington hammer drop. It's everyone's right here to respond by being a pompous fuckhead who touts the fact that they paid some tiny sum of money as being proof that they and their opinions are inviolable. That doesn't mean you don't look like a retart. This wasn't directed at anyone in particular btw, but if you want to take offense, be my guest, I could give two shits. Buncha fucking children.
Maybe Paltalk's inthemoment, relatively uncontrolled feedback/"assholic cuntery" just went worst-case-scenario?
I was one of several RF.net posters who took cheapshots at Randy Newman(sp?) when Ron brought him up as a musical icon ~about a year ago, even referencing the infamous FamilyGuy parody.
(the luv-him or hate him thing seems to be generational: reviews of his current release appear fairly correlated to age of critic)
But apart from mods, imo fansiteslike this have advantage of being somewhat self-regulating even in the moment; had the comments come from new posters or continuously negative comentators, or someone who seemed to be overly malicious/without explanation; the jeers would have probably been blocked and/or countered....
Paltalk has its relative advantages, but at this point, that it will have many "this isn't good; move on!" type comments shouldn't be a surprise.
PT
JPMNICK
08-18-2008, 05:40 PM
hey live by paltalk die by paltalk. the same power it has to be a part of things and add to the show, it has to bring things crashing back down. it all depends on peoples moods and circumstances. shit happened, everyone will get over it.
Foster
08-18-2008, 05:48 PM
I heard once Sirus takes full control paltalk is going to be replaced by Howard TV.
Tenbatsuzen
08-18-2008, 05:51 PM
I heard once Sirus takes full control paltalk is going to be replaced by Howard TV.
Throwing baloney at Frenchy's ass?
ChimneyFish
08-18-2008, 05:52 PM
everyone will get over it.
I never will.
Never, I say.
Neeeevvvverrrrr!!!!
ROBOT HOUUUUSSSSEEEE!!!!!!!!
But getting wrapped up in PT drama is like, four steps below LARPing, imho.
2 damage! 2 damage!
KnoxHarrington
08-18-2008, 06:00 PM
I heard once Sirus takes full control paltalk is going to be replaced by Howard TV.
Seriously, given Big Daddy Mel's repeatedly expressed distaste for giving away content, I wouldn't expect the simulcast on Paltalk to be allowed much longer anyway.
Seriously, given Big Daddy Mel's repeatedly expressed distaste for giving away content, I wouldn't expect the simulcast on Paltalk to be allowed much longer anyway.
I wouldn't exactly expect to hear of XM Sirus more than maybe a couple years longer.
Big Daddy Mel's a little delusional in his statements these days. Both companies are horrible failures financially. Now that they merged, I guess that makes them an epic failure.
And there's not exactly a huge buzz about satellite radio anymore.
Basically, these two companies merged, and nobody in the market cared. Not a good sign.
I was entertaining the notion of buying a quick 1000 shares of it, because the stock price is 1.50 or so, but it's as likely to 40 cents , as it is to ever see anything north of $2 any time soon.
So I think I'll pass.
PapaBear
08-18-2008, 06:13 PM
Seriously, given Big Daddy Mel's repeatedly expressed distaste for giving away content, I wouldn't expect the simulcast on Paltalk to be allowed much longer anyway.
Unless the SiriusXMPaltalk merger goes through.
ChimneyFish
08-18-2008, 06:16 PM
Unless the SiriusXMPaltalk merger goes through.
I thought that I had heard a rumour that WorldCom was buying all three.
I thought that I had heard a rumour that WorldCom was buying all three.
I wonder if the Big Ass Room will be a merger casualty
Sue_Bender
08-18-2008, 06:27 PM
Maybe Paltalk's inthemoment, relatively uncontrolled feedback/"assholic cuntery" just went worst-case-scenario?
I was one of several RF.net posters who took cheapshots at Randy Newman(sp?) when Ron brought him up as a musical icon ~about a year ago, even referencing the infamous Family Guy parody.
(the luv-him or hate him thing seems to be generational: reviews of his current release appear fairly correlated to age of critic)
What's a "cheap shot"?
I had no idea that the Family Guy so-called parody was infamous.
I'm not the biggest Randy Newman fan (his arrangements tend to be "samey"), but his lyrics are some of the strongest in popular music.
So, you don't care for his lazy delivery. Horses for courses, Fucktards.
Why has this one hour of radio (although produced clumsily) created so much animosity?
Ron did a tremendous job, and was obviously enjoying himself.
A lot of people give a pass to the absolute worst radio ever delivered via space..."Brooklyn Radio"...but Randy Newman makes waves?!
Why isn't there a thread dedicated to the shit that is "Hugo"? (at least I think that's the name of Ben Folds w/ extra faggy gay-tar).
That is all.
happytypinggirl
08-18-2008, 10:55 PM
People....we are putting WAY too much weight in comments made in an active chat. People are there listening to the show and entertaining eachother along the way. I like to listen in paltalk rooms because of the comments. It adds to the fun. Sometimes drama ensues because people take this shit waaaaay too seriously.
Like i said earlier, i wouldn't have commented on this at all. I respect FBP too much to air anything publicly. I respect Ron and Fez and their show as well. I have been a VERY loyal listener since WNEW and I have never missed a show since I discovered them. That includes the days when they were on WJFK. The great thing about paltalk is you can listen with other fans. Most people I am friends with in real life dont have my sense of humor, the sense of humor the allows me to "get" the odd humor put out on XM202. It is refreshing to be able to comment on whats going on with other people in real time. As in having a conversation.
THATS WHAT PALTALK IS FOLKS....PEOPLE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION!!!!
It isnt like posting on a messegeboard saying "worst show ever"...It isnt demanding that they stop this now and go live. Its just a few people getting bored and attempting to entertain themselves as the show progresses.
the convo is fine. nothing wrong with saying what you want. but also nothing wrong with ron or anthony deciding they dont want to be in that place to hear/see it. Its not like reading the boards, its more like people sitting in your studio with you and making comments you can hear about not liking it. Sometimes we forget they can read what we're writing and i dont blame them for not wanting to see the negative stuff. Its not like they're trying to stop it from being said...they just might not want to interact with it.
happytypinggirl
08-18-2008, 10:59 PM
This Is Why We Cant Have Anything Nice!!!!
hahahha!
by the way, im gonna assume the people who have shown an interest in trying to get paltalk streams shut down were only kidding, cuz that just makes no sense to want to take away something from other people if it doesn't effect you.
the paltalk rooms will still exist-- most of us listen in on our own xm radios while we chat. the stream is convenient so everyone can hear at the same level of delay, but its not like cutting off the stream will shut down paltalk.
Mafialife Chris
08-19-2008, 02:42 AM
Thats what the tears were over?!?!?!
I tuned in at the end of the conversation and thought maybe someone died...I didnt know it was over a little comment like that. Wow.
:blink:
I'm trying to care about this whole thing but I can't seem to.
Is this what happened
Frenchy(?) a listener, called into the radio show crying because Ron, a radio host was never going to go into her pal talk room again, even though its a great run room where everyone should feel welcome. A room she started because everyone in another paltalk room, where mean girls are, don't like her.
Is that the bottom line?
Some times I wonder why I listen to this show every day.
What gets me about this thing is that Ron & Fez, as a gift to the listeners, let them listen in live to a show that wouldn't actually air for a few more days. In fact, in one of those shows, they had "calls" via Paltalk. And the reaction of some people is not "Wow, thanks Ronnie, thanks Fezzie," it's "How can you have it in that other room! I hate those people!"
Fucking babies.
The tears were alot more in depth. Frenchy is very emotional and passionate about Ron and Fez's real feelings.
The moment she felt Ron was hurt by a bad attitude that the folks in her room participated in, and that she may be responsible, she was sad.
She was getting tid bits of manipulated comments on her cell, PM's, etc..... Her first reaction was to cry. She is sensative. It was very very geniune and sincere.
If you think otherwise, then you dont get Frenchy and Ron's relationship. But why should you? It was personal. In fact, that call was not supposed to be on air.
I let Ron know she was very upset, because I personally didnt like what a few in the Big Ass Room said ( It could have been that username in any paltalk room. It happens, Paltalk is for conversation ) and I wanted to make it clear to Ron that me and Frenchy did not condone the behavior. And in fact, she was upset that it bothered him. He told me to have her call him. She actually thought the call would be private off air, on a break. The screener put her through.
For the most part, it's not really happening. Most people don't care which room stuff goes in because you can stream it into the other room anyway.
Thank you for validating that. I agree wholeheartedly MB. So does Frenchy.
It seems like one of the most sure fire ways to interrupt your enjoyment of something is to become personally involved with artificial social structures dedicated to it.
Frenchy got word of all this and she was understandably upset. The Big ASS room is hers and she has a lot of pride in it. The thought that Ronnie would just stop going there must have been horrible as she is a friend of the show and has been for as long as I can remember. Hence her call in. Meanwhile there was a "secret show" being taped live on paltalk and she called in as it was happening.
stink, I love ya budday, but you missed on this one sir. She does not care what room Ron comes into, as long as it makes Ron and Fez happy. In fact, she is very angry at some for assuming that is what it's all about. I assure you Ron himself knows differently. She was only sad, because she thought someone in her room hurt Ron, period!
why would you jeer a show, or feel the need to criticize professionals doing their job ... would you expect a legitimate response to calling a show 'boring'
there's this line (as fans) that people feel way too comfortable to cross ... radio shows, blogs, stadiums and concerts are littered with un-necessary opinions
the newman interview was great, especially his response to the family guy references ... of the 60 hours a month of entertainment R&F provide, you can't give an hour to let the host geek out a bit
I expected Ron to be pissed reading ignorant stupid shit like that. It was also unappreciative to an extend, since Ron extends his audience to paltalk as a courtesy. At the same time, Paltalk is part of the show by Ron's desire. I am glad he said something. I also expected Frenchy to be upset. Especially since the member broke the room policy.
Sometimes she gets a bit emotional, thats all. I fucking love her for that! She is real to the core man, and you guys have no clue if you don't personally know her! I dont fault you for it. It is what it is.
The reason why someone would "jeer" a show is because thats what you do on paltalk, you chat while listening. Thats also what we do here on message boards. It's expected. The whole incedent was just a natural occurance. There should be no drama over it once it was settled. Someone was over criticle of something Ron was sensative to, he commented, ppl antagonized Frenchy, I told Ron she was crying, Ron wanted to console her, he asked her to call, she called.
I cant believe you have a problem with someone giving their honest opinion on a situation and by not speaking up on a bad performer you are expressing how you feel in a different way by keeping it to yourself while he chose to speak out get over yourself and your holier then thou attitude
Exactly, but Ron has a right to be pissed. And Frenchy doesnt really like when people insult the shows, staff,guests, or other paltalk rooms and boards. Because she opened the room for the sole purpose that people can listen to the show on paltalk, hear replays all day of old shows and special shows, and all the while keeping the posativity flowing.
Both rooms do a good job keeping posative dialog really, and I think thats cool. There are only a small partion of people still keeping the animosity and seperatism going within the 2 rooms. That will get old quickly soon.
The show gives too much attention to the messageboards and paltalk.
How many years has Ron been doing a socially interactive show, you have to get used to it by now no?
Get involved bro. Contribute. The Show encourages it.
This isn't the first time Ron has had a problem with what people are saying during guests in the listening threads. If it bothers him that much then maybe he shouldn't read them or check out Paltalk. Seems like an easy enough solution.
I'm guessing he just expects a little bit of respect reciprication, and appreciation. How dare he, lol
I think it was fair for Ron to be pissed off at them. It's not that he can't take criticism, but he basically let them into the studio and they chose to be asses towards him (it doesnt help that the interview was personal for him). It's kind've like going to a party where no one likes you. Would you still go? Especially when there's another party where people do like you (the other paltalk room)..........
I think he made clear, he wouldve gotten over it the next minute. It was blown out of proportion by many antaginists.
Is Dave still doing Board Gossip?
I wouldn't presume to know what Ron should or shouldn't talk about on his show, but I've been feeling like this for awhile, especially since the Unity show. That one made me fucking retch.
Fucking people so pissed off at each other they start their own messageboards, pull their friends there and can't get along as close fans of the greatest radio show on Earth? I still feel a little bad for Chris on that one, he got an ass reaming and I felt he was just trying to bring a few people together.
Yes, in real life you all can't get along but it's just a fucking radio show.
I'm so bored with it all. This is the reason I want nothig to do with the social scene of this messageboard and the show in general. I live an hour from NYC and I only go in for huge events. This drama is dragging the show down when it comes up on air.
Don't feel to bad. Ron is dragging friends into the show for his own reasons. I don't mind some ribbing/ Not everyone can be the good wrestler ppl cheer for. I am usually the heel. Thats my punishment for being a plug whore I guess. How does one really not laugh at larping when your not into it, lol. And of course, how can you not take advantage of a perfect op to laugh at the larping mafia guy who is claiming to throw a party for unity, lol. I get it. Regardless, there is a personal relationship there. Ron genuinely wants me to succeed. He is a friend.
Btw, I did get closure for that Unity thing. For the few hundred ppl that showed up at that wedding. Me, Ron and Fez laughed in thier faces and unconvered the hidden Unity party Ron pretty much forced everyone to go to by masking it as a wedding and gap premier.
We had sick audio that we couldnt play because someone fucked up the sound files. SO the bit went out the window.
Overall, it was lots of fun participating. Please do not feel bad for me.
at least 50% of the people in any paltalk room at any time are complete cunts
Agreed, including you.
Seriously. People like to point at me and call me the asshole for my antics on here. And I'm sure there's a lot of chill people on PT I've never met before. I met a few of them at a party and they were delightful. Especially the girl who I thought was 19 and she's like, close to 30.
But getting wrapped up in PT drama is like, four steps below LARPing, imho.
So hurtfull sometimes, lol
At what point do the attempts at good-naturedly busting the show's balls turn into assholic cuntery that result in the ruination of other people's fun? Seems to me that just letting any guy bugle his fucking opinion and try to hide his passive-aggressiveness with stale overused bits ("zzz"? that's hilarious! I read that one in Ziggy in 1986!!) ultimately degenerates into something that is neither fun, necessary, or should exist at all in the best of all possible worlds.
Case in point, the fucking same ten assholes who kept booing at all the O&A virus shows. Because they thought it would be funny to rehash the same tired shit over and over, the entire series has been wrecked. Even Bill Burr's last stand isn't funny anymore because of these unfunny cunts. Then they go on The 'Nets and spew bullshit about how "THEY JUST NEED THICKER SKIN THE FUCKING PUSSIES IM GLAD THEIR SHOW GOT RUINED LOBSTER CLAWS LOBSTER CLAWZ" etc etc. GTF over yourselves.
Besides, Ron's only human. If he gets pissed off, that's his motherfucking right. Not the first time either- he tells all the N-joke guys to fuck themselves, and the caller who was bashing Lily Tomlin a year ago got a taste of the ol' Bennington hammer drop. It's everyone's right here to respond by being a pompous fuckhead who touts the fact that they paid some tiny sum of money as being proof that they and their opinions are inviolable. That doesn't mean you don't look like a retart. This wasn't directed at anyone in particular btw, but if you want to take offense, be my guest, I could give two shits. Buncha fucking children.
Nice Rant!
Mafialife Chris
08-19-2008, 02:45 AM
Now lock this mutha fucka Mikey Boy, lol
moochcassidy
08-19-2008, 05:02 AM
Agreed, including you.
youre right of course ...to an extend
Knowledged_one
08-19-2008, 06:08 AM
People seem to forget the latter part of that, but that's absolutely true.
If I was doing my job, and someone was sending messages back and forth saying "this fucking blows," my natural reaction would be "fuck you" as well.
There's a whole service/customer relationship thing I always rant about and could go on a lengthy rant about right now, but I'll just say that people have this misconception that if someone is entertaining you, or providing a service, or whatever...and you start bitching about it, that the person providing the service, not only has to take it, but work to please you and make you happy.
(whoever started that 'the customer is always right' bullshit deserves a fork in the eye...as the great Shannon Hamilton says in Mallrats, 'the customer is always an asshole.')
The point is that it's not true, so no one should complain about the fact that a host fights back a little bit.
(That doesn't mean the listener has to back down...i didn't hear the Randy Newman thing, but if I listened and thought it sucked, I'd stick to my opinion).
Anyway...as far as the whole PalTalk thing goes, I wonder how hard it would be to just stream the camera feed from their PalTalk camera and webcast the thing over their Profile Page on XM every day.
They wouldn't get to see the people on the other end, but it'd put an end to this 'my room vs. your room' petty BS.
i didnt say the customre is always right, what i said is that as paying customers of the service that they have all the right in the world to criticize a service they are paying for
Death Metal Moe
08-19-2008, 06:43 AM
No offense to you here Chris, but the fact that you felt you had to come in here and leave a multi-response reply to drama is what I'm talking about.
It's a radio show, this shit is fucking rediculous. The fact that people can't just listen and get along for the most part is the problem.
Mafialife Chris
08-19-2008, 06:49 AM
No offense to you here Chris, but the fact that you felt you had to come in here and leave a multi-response reply to drama is what I'm talking about.
It's a radio show, this shit is fucking rediculous. The fact that people can't just listen and get along for the most part is the problem.
I hear ya Moe. I know your straight forward brother. I understand how ya feel, but it is a message board, and it serves its purpose. So does Paltalk.
It's not as rediculous as it seems. And it's just another topic of discussion keeping message boarders occupied. I just figured id share where I saw some hearsay that I can help with, since I knew the situation more specifically. I was just helping with details. NO offense taken. I hope my reply didnt offend you either.
Edit: Sorry, I re-read your reply, and I misunderstood. You were not saying it is rediculous that a thread it talking about it, you were saying it is rediculous that ppl cant just listen and get along. I agree.
douchebagsean
08-19-2008, 07:07 AM
spell check and get a hobby...I agree with moe, it's just a show for the love of all things Holy
Death Metal Moe
08-19-2008, 07:07 AM
I hear ya Moe. I know your straight forward brother. I understand how ya feel, but it is a message board, and it serves its purpose. So does Paltalk.
It's not as rediculous as it seems. And it's just another topic of discussion keeping message boarders occupied. I just figured id share where I saw some hearsay that I can help with, since I knew the situation more specifically. I was just helping with details. NO offense taken. I hope my reply didnt offend you either.
Edit: Sorry, I re-read your reply, and I misunderstood. You were not saying it is rediculous that a thread it talking about it, you were saying it is rediculous that ppl cant just listen and get along. I agree.
Yea, the discussion is fine, the fact the problem even exists is rediculous. The fact your girl got so upset over drama is bad, the fact you have to come in here and explain yourself so you cover your ass for future accusation is bad, the fact some fans can't be around other fans is bad, the fact that some people are jokceying for imaginary positions on the show and Paltalk/Messageboards is bad. The whole fucking situation is balls.
boonanas
08-19-2008, 07:11 AM
I like how Ron bashes the younger generation for the "look at me" attitude regarding facebook and whatnot, yet he totally gives in to that "look at me" regarding irrelevant message board and paltalk bullshit.
Don't blame the fans, blame Ron for including untalented fans into the show.
the fact that some people are jokceying for imaginary positions on the show and Paltalk/Messageboards is bad.
That's the one that boggles my mind.
To be fair, though, I brought this up early in the thread and mikeyboy said he doesn't really think that happens too often.
That may be true, it may not...I'm not on PT and don't really read other boards, but there's seems to be a lot of that, that bleeds on to the show, and over on to this board from time to time.
Mafialife Chris
08-19-2008, 07:31 AM
Yea, the discussion is fine, the fact the problem even exists is rediculous. The fact your girl got so upset over drama is bad, the fact you have to come in here and explain yourself so you cover your ass for future accusation is bad, the fact some fans can't be around other fans is bad, the fact that some people are jokceying for imaginary positions on the show and Paltalk/Messageboards is bad. The whole fucking situation is balls.
The fact you think thats going on, when its not is bad, lol
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