The 2008 New York Jets Discussion

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well, might as well start it with this:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3252/jetsqbsiteu0.jpg

Chad: No arm.

Kellen: No experience. Well, unless you count your pocket collapsing in about 2 seconds "experience".

The Jets reloaded in the off-season though, and it appears that Favre will remain the Packers' issue.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

8-8

hey its better than 4-12


I pity the jets

[DarkHippie]

I think it is time for Kellen. I love Chad, but the new offense is more of a vertical attack. Clemens has a much stronger arm than Chad.

[PD]

Chad may be a better leader, but after a 4-12 season, its time to have a long term plan.

I do like the offseason moves they made, but as KHB said, 8-8 will be about all we can hope for.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The problem is, Mangini's offense isn't suited for someone's of Chad's abilities, which is something I was never able to understand.

If it was a more short-passing West Coast Offense, Chad would be fine.

I know he's got a shitty arm, but he's got a decent brain. That means a lot.

Whatever. If we're not going with Chad then yeah, let's see what Kellen's got. What fucking amazes me is that they dump all this money in FA signings and draft picks and STILL don't have a clue what they have at QB.

I'm gonna say 6-10. Maybe 7-9.

[cougarjake13]

The problem is, Mangini's offense isn't suited for someone's of Chad's abilities, which is something I was never able to understand.

If it was a more short-passing West Coast Offense, Chad would be fine.

I know he's got a shitty arm, but he's got a decent brain. That means a lot.

Whatever. If we're not going with Chad then yeah, let's see what Kellen's got. What fucking amazes me is that they dump all this money in FA signings and draft picks and STILL don't have a clue what they have at QB.

I'm gonna say 6-10. Maybe 7-9.


7-9 sounds bout right

[Knowledged_one]

The problem is, Mangini's offense isn't suited for someone's of Chad's abilities, which is something I was never able to understand.

If it was a more short-passing West Coast Offense, Chad would be fine.

I know he's got a shitty arm, but he's got a decent brain. That means a lot.

Whatever. If we're not going with Chad then yeah, let's see what Kellen's got. What fucking amazes me is that they dump all this money in FA signings and draft picks and STILL don't have a clue what they have at QB.

I'm gonna say 6-10. Maybe 7-9.

Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

STOP SAYING WE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE TEAM

[DarkHippie]

Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

STOP SAYING WE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE TEAM

NO WAY! WE'RE THE 12TH MAN!!!!!! 12TH MAN!!!!

I am really looking forward to the preseason games. i wanna see how it goes down.

[cougarjake13]

Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

STOP SAYING WE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE TEAM

i hate when people do this


we all know we dont literally mean we as if we a part of the team, or gm , or whatever

its a fucking phrase, we live and die with our football teams, watch the games , buy jerseys, etc .... we may not physically play but we are as much a part of the team as the players


you're just pissed b/c your team hasnt won shit since 92 .. get over it

[Knowledged_one]

i hate when people do this


we all know we dont literally mean we as if we a part of the team, or gm , or whatever

its a fucking phrase, we live and die with our football teams, watch the games , buy jerseys, etc .... we may not physically play but we are as much a part of the team as the players


you're just pissed b/c your team hasnt won shit since 92 .. get over it

yeah thats it im pissed about my team not winning anything since 92 good one potsie

and its a phrase that makes absolutlely no sense and you are in no way a part of the team in anyway and mean nothing in comparison to the players

[drjoek]

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/09/Lombardi%20Trophy.jpg

[spadanko]

According to his agent, Brett Favre is willing to play for both the Jets and the Buccaneers.

Favre appears resigned to a trade and hopes one is completed by Thursday, so he can get into training camp with his new team. His agent said that he could not see a scenario that involved Favre not playing football this season. The Jets may now be the frontrunners if they are truly offering a much better package, although we're sure that Favre will have a voice in the final decision. Aug. 6 - 10:16 am et

[DarkHippie]

According to his agent, Brett Favre is willing to play for both the Jets and the Buccaneers.

Favre appears resigned to a trade and hopes one is completed by Thursday, so he can get into training camp with his new team. His agent said that he could not see a scenario that involved Favre not playing football this season. The Jets may now be the frontrunners if they are truly offering a much better package, although we're sure that Favre will have a voice in the final decision. Aug. 6 - 10:16 am et

On sportscenter they said that Favre made it clear that he doesnt want anything to do with the Jets.

[PD]

On sportscenter they said that Favre made it clear that he doesnt want anything to do with the Jets.

I heard some respected reporter (Jay Glazer or Peter King) who said that the Jets made preliminary contact with Favre's agent and were told Favre didn't want to go to NY.

[trogdor2k]

[QUOTE=Knowledged_one;1813087]Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

Gray from the Jaguars was available. He went 2-2 last season as a starter and has a decent arm.

[Knowledged_one]

[QUOTE=Knowledged_one;1813087]Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

Gray from the Jaguars was available. He went 2-2 last season as a starter and has a decent arm.

Oh you mean Quinn Gray who is the 3rd stringer on the Colts that Quinn Gray?

Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
8 4 80 144 55.6 986 6.8 10 5 10 68 85.6 19 57 3.0 0 2 1

and mind you 4 of those TD's came in a meaningless Week 17 match up that guy was horrific

[cougarjake13]

yeah thats it im pissed about my team not winning anything since 92 good one potsie

and its a phrase that makes absolutlely no sense and you are in no way a part of the team in anyway and mean nothing in comparison to the players

so why even watch then ??

[DarkHippie]

The Jets will be fine with Clemens. The rushing game should improve with the additions on the line, and because Clemens is a long threat, defences wont be able to put 8 in the box.

I think they go 9-7, just missing the playoffs. Their schedule is pretty weak, and they've made some good off season changes.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

STOP SAYING WE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE TEAM

go fucking whine about Jeffrey Maier 12 years later or something.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well since you are saying we, what FA QB should they have gone after or who should they have drafted then

STOP SAYING WE YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE TEAM

and FWIW, Flacco and Brohm were both available.

[cougarjake13]

and FWIW, Flacco and Brohm were both available.

true but they did just draft clemens and still dont know what they have in him


plus theyll just tank it to get tebow after this year

[TheGameHHH]

and the Jets just got interesting..............im looking forward to playing Farve twice a year now

[Tenbatsuzen]

holy shit they only gave up a fourth round pick.

holy shit.

[epo]

holy shit they only gave up a fourth round pick.

holy shit.

Isn't the pick conditional?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

with Favre 9-7

[barjockey]

farve a jet for the next 3 yrs. will give them more star power for the opening of the new stadium and get them back on national tv

[joeyballsack]

I think the Jets just became a serious playoff contender.

He will make a fortune off of this comeback. The most recognizable name in the NFL playing in Market #1 your also going to get to see him play against Tom Brady twice a year which will draw crazy ratings.

Pretty convienent trade for all parties involved...well except for the Packers.

[PD]

I guess either it wasnt Glazer that said Favre didn't want NY,or someone convinced Favre.

as a Jet fan, I'm not so sure this will be good (although it doesnt seem like they gave up much)

[Knowledged_one]

go fucking whine about Jeffrey Maier 12 years later or something.

awww whats the matter little baby you can dish it out but you sure act like a bitch when people give it back to you

[Knowledged_one]

Isn't the pick conditional?

of course it is, this is what happens when someone who doesnt really know sports tries to talk about sports

[Knowledged_one]

so why even watch then ??

because im a fan of the team not a part of the team

[Freitag]

I guess either it wasnt Glazer that said Favre didn't want NY,or someone convinced Favre.

as a Jet fan, I'm not so sure this will be good (although it doesnt seem like they gave up much)

Peter King was on WFAN taking credit for convincing Brett that Jersey wasn't that bad.

Brett, like 80 percent of the nation, was convinced that New York City was basically the five boroughs surrounded by factories and highways (i.e. Jersey). Since the packers would fly in to EWR, see the WORST PART OF NEW JERSEY, and then leave, I could see his point.

King explained to Brett that areas around Florham Park, etc. are very "countrylike" and he could get the setting he'd want. And he's right. Brett could live in the environment he'd love out in NW Jersey.

So thank you, Peter King.

(And seriously, the Jets gave up a 4th round pick. If he plays half the season, it's a 3rd round pick. If he plays 70 percent of the season and the Jets make the playoffs, 2nd round pick. Jets make the Super Bowl, it's a first round pick)

Honestly? If the Jets make the SuperBowl, I don't mind giving up a first round pick. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THE LAST PICK OF THE FIRST ROUND ANYWAY.

[Freitag]

awww whats the matter little baby you can dish it out but you sure act like a bitch when people give it back to you

because im a fan of the team not a part of the team

You really do a piss-poor Snoogans impression, you know that? The fact of the matter is not "dishing it out" or "taking it", you were using a standard FARK trolling technique of complaining "oh, what's this We, you're not a part of the team" angry typing guy.

So I used the term "we". Big DEAL. If you're a fan, you know what we're talking about. If not, you take things way too seriously and need to get off your high horse.

of course it is, this is what happens when someone who doesnt really know sports tries to talk about sports

Mmm. Yes, because when I posted last night, I had all the intricate details of the trade before I went to sleep.

Considering my last post last night was around 12:30ish and Tannenbaum's press conference with all the details was at 1:15am, and all I was going on was 20-20 sports flashes that didn't really talk about what the conditions were, I don't know sports. I'm sorry. I'll never post here again. You dolt.

[Knowledged_one]

You really do a piss-poor Snoogans impression, you know that? The fact of the matter is not "dishing it out" or "taking it", you were using a standard FARK trolling technique of complaining "oh, what's this We, you're not a part of the team" angry typing guy.

So I used the term "we". Big DEAL. If you're a fan, you know what we're talking about. If not, you take things way too seriously and need to get off your high horse.



Mmm. Yes, because when I posted last night, I had all the intricate details of the trade before I went to sleep.

Considering my last post last night was around 12:30ish and Tannenbaum's press conference with all the details was at 1:15am, and all I was going on was 20-20 sports flashes that didn't really talk about what the conditions were, I don't know sports. I'm sorry. I'll never post here again. You dolt.

Why make excuses because of your lack of knowledge, ive read what you post you in other sports threads and you throw out general comments that really is borderline on what girls know about sports. You are a jock sniffer who doesnt know a thing about sports but like BDC you spit out what others say and take it for your own

And calling me a piss poor Snoogans is a bit of a compliment since i would much rather be him then the pretend prick you are, you are a joke and now i really do see why no one likes you because like i said you can dish it out but can't take it.

I dont even know what FARK even is and i have said the "we" thing for a long time, i mean i guess i know why you do it because you were never part of any kind of real team or know what it is to compete so you say we so that you can feel part of something, so keep glomming on to a team to make yourself feel validated you do such a good job at it

And explain how i take things so seriously you are the one that feels the need to say "we" as if you are part of something or part of the team however i am just a fan and dont things too seriously

You are irrelevant and nothing more then a carbon copy of BDC as all you do is parrot what others say. You are a true failure and like i said keep trying the prick routine it may catch on with people one of these days

[Freitag]

Why make excuses because of your lack of knowledge, ive read what you post you in other sports threads and you throw out general comments that really is borderline on what girls know about sports. You are a jock sniffer who doesnt know a thing about sports but like BDC you spit out what others say and take it for your own

And calling me a piss poor Snoogans is a bit of a compliment since i would much rather be him then the pretend prick you are, you are a joke and now i really do see why no one likes you because like i said you can dish it out but can't take it.

I dont even know what FARK even is and i have said the "we" thing for a long time, i mean i guess i know why you do it because you were never part of any kind of real team or know what it is to compete so you say we so that you can feel part of something, so keep glomming on to a team to make yourself feel validated you do such a good job at it

And explain how i take things so seriously you are the one that feels the need to say "we" as if you are part of something or part of the team however i am just a fan and dont things too seriously

You are irrelevant and nothing more then a carbon copy of BDC as all you do is parrot what others say. You are a true failure and like i said keep trying the prick routine it may catch on with people one of these days

Y'see, your first mistake was trying to make a BDC comparison. Unlike our fine disappearing friend, if anyone called out BDC, he'd immediately disappear. I, however, have no issue responding. So you fail on that.

Secondly, where do you even get that I never played on a team?

Third, are you backtracking all of a sudden? The reason I said "we" is not because a lack of self-importance on my part that I need to be a part of the Jets. It was because I was lazy. If you look at the original post, I actually only used the term "we" once - the rest of the posts was "they" or "The Jets".

You're acting like I committed some unforgivable atrocity.

For what it's worth, you're the one who's elevating a flame war with personal attacks... and it's not the first time, what is wrong with you?

[Bossanova]

Great! Now I get to hear about this jerkoff on ESPN and local tv/radio

[PD]

upon a bit of reflection, I see Favre to Jets similar to the Mets signing Pedro-
its more for the public relations / showing fans & the league the Jets will try everything they can.
Favre makes the Jets better, but I expect to see the 2006 Favre, not last year's version.

[Freitag]

My thoughts on the matter are this:

A lot of Green Bay fans do not like their GM. However, I've been rather annoyed with this media circus, even though the end was the best possible outcome for my team.

The fact of the matter is this. Brett is a HOF QB and he totally upgrades the Jets in that position, making them a very strong contender. But the question is, will he be a distraction? He's already completely tarnished his reputation in Green Bay and he probably will not return there until the current GM and Coach are out, so that'll be at least three-five years from now, if not longer.

The flip side of that is that people said that TO and Chad Johnson would be distractions, and for some reason, over the summer, both of them completely shut up and started playing football. What a concept.

I think a large part of this was a media storm. It'll die down by week 2. Unless his first game, he throws like 3 picks.

[Freitag]

upon a bit of reflection, I see Favre to Jets similar to the Mets signing Pedro-
its more for the public relations / showing fans & the league the Jets will try everything they can.
Favre makes the Jets better, but I expect to see the 2006 Favre, not last year's version.

I'd have to go back and look at the season and rosters, but couldn't 2006 Favre be a product of the entire Packer team sucking, and not just Brett?

The Jets have a lot of weapons that Brett can use, and the early reports so far is that the new O-Line is outstanding. He'll have Cotchery, Coles, and Baker to throw at, plus Thomas Jones.

I don't know. He did more with less last year.

[Bossanova]

If I wasn't mezmorized by Cunningham as a young boy and didnt become an Eagle fan, I would have been a Jet fan. My roommate is a Jet fan and so is her father, so I always have the "second team" intrest in them. Sure I bust the Jets balls but I always do pull for them. Farve makes them better and I think the Jets had to do this. It gives them a legit starting qb and takes the Giants off the back page for a minute. At the very least, this just gave them a somewhat better chance at the Pats or maybe even a wild card. I just don't want to see his name on the ESPN crawl anymore. The media made me hate this guy over the last 4 years and I hope for the Jets that he doesn't distract much

[Knowledged_one]

Y'see, your first mistake was trying to make a BDC comparison. Unlike our fine disappearing friend, if anyone called out BDC, he'd immediately disappear. I, however, have no issue responding. So you fail on that.

Secondly, where do you even get that I never played on a team?

Third, are you backtracking all of a sudden? The reason I said "we" is not because a lack of self-importance on my part that I need to be a part of the Jets. It was because I was lazy. If you look at the original post, I actually only used the term "we" once - the rest of the posts was "they" or "The Jets".

You're acting like I committed some unforgivable atrocity.

For what it's worth, you're the one who's elevating a flame war with personal attacks... and it's not the first time, what is wrong with you?

Its personal becuase you are overall an ass who attacks people at all times but when someone says anything to you you pull the woe is me im the martyr here card at all times

And i call you BDC because you have no sports knowledge you simply parrot out the points of others like he did, but then again i guess your reading comprehension skills arent that great

[epo]

(And seriously, the Jets gave up a 4th round pick. If he plays half the season, it's a 3rd round pick. If he plays 70 percent of the season and the Jets make the playoffs, 2nd round pick. Jets make the Super Bowl, it's a first round pick)



I would bet you'll be giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

[ravn816]

:popcorn:

Whether the Jets win or lose, it will still be interesting to watch how the media and fans react to Favre throughout the season.

[epo]

I'd have to go back and look at the season and rosters, but couldn't 2006 Favre be a product of the entire Packer team sucking, and not just Brett?


I'm betting that many people saw last year as a statistical blip in his career. His numbers had been in a steady decline since 2003 (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=FAV540222). I'll just use completion % as an example:

2003: 66.5%
2004: 64.1%
2005: 61.3%
2006: 56.0%
2007: 66.5%

I'm not saying that he doesn't still have it, because he clearly still has the skills to play. However to look at the decline compared to last year and it makes you wonder.

The Jets have a lot of weapons that Brett can use, and the early reports so far is that the new O-Line is outstanding. He'll have Cotchery, Coles, and Baker to throw at, plus Thomas Jones.

I don't know. He did more with less last year.

That is where I might take an issue. Whether the rest of the world realizes it, that Packer team is kind of loaded offensively. They have a solid offensive line, 2 very good running backs and are 5 deep in the receiving corps. I'll gladly put Driver & Jennings in the Top 5 of starting WR duos in the league.

But all that being said, I hope Favre does well with the Jets. It'll be a tougher conference, but he's still an amazing QB. If Eric Mangini can keep him under control, it should be a Montana in Kansas City kind of finish for #4.

[Bossanova]

But all that being said, I hope Favre does well with the Jets. It'll be a tougher conference, but he's still an amazing QB. If Eric Mangini can keep him under control, it should be a Montana in Kansas City kind of finish for #4.

By tougher do you mean not having Fox suck his cock every week

[PD]

I'm betting that many people saw last year as a statistical blip in his career. His numbers had been in a steady decline since 2003 (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=FAV540222). I'll just use completion % as an example:

2003: 66.5%
2004: 64.1%
2005: 61.3%
2006: 56.0%
2007: 66.5%

I'm not saying that he doesn't still have it, because he clearly still has the skills to play. However to look at the decline compared to last year and it makes you wonder. .
It's been my thought that last year was a blip.
I also heard (don't remember which of the 100 NFL commentators recently talking about Favre) that before last season the Packers got Favre someone to work with him in the offseason, and he came into last season in much better shape than he had been recently. That was not the case for this past offseason.

Again, its a no-brainer for Jets. I'm still thinking around 8-8/9-7 with wild card possibility.

[PD]

By tougher do you mean not having Fox suck his cock every week

Loser in this: Fox. Winner: CBS.

[KingGeno]

I look forward to seeing him play, just like him as a person and player.

I do NOT look forward to Fox and their fuckface inspirational music interviews with him, with stupid questiong from some unknowing ugly bitch asking pointless and emo questions.

His presence will continue the womanization of the NFL

[epo]

It's been my thought that last year was a blip.
I also heard (don't remember which of the 100 NFL commentators recently talking about Favre) that before last season the Packers got Favre someone to work with him in the offseason, and he came into last season in much better shape than he had been recently. That was not the case for this past offseason.

Again, its a no-brainer for Jets. I'm still thinking around 8-8/9-7 with wild card possibility.

Last year he spent the off-season with a $5K per week trainer to ensure that he was in prime shape for season. He didn't do that this past off-season. He also has the disadvantage of playing in a new offense at the age 38 and having literally no off-season to work with his new teammates.

I will be intrigued as to how this works out. If you are the Jets, why not? Its definitely worth the risk.

[Kevin]

The biggest thing he will Miss is the Hands of the GB Wrs. GB drafted Wr with great hands to handle Bret`s throws. I cant tell you how many of Favre`s less than perfect passes they saved with great catches. They would pluck that ball going 100mph high or low or to the side. It was amazing. As for Matty and KO. I find KOs WE gripe a bit much, but Matty does the exact same thing when he does not read something he likes. KO is at least respectful in his comments. Matty on the other hand goes automaticaly for nasty insults like "you`re a faggot" Case and point when i said ASB instead of allstar break. Or when we complain in the Yankee thread. And he does get a bit defensive when you hit back. I have no problems with any of the two. But both can get under your skin. When i called out KO on something, i felt he handled it well.

[Knowledged_one]

Loser in this: Fox. Winner: CBS.

Also: Winner - John Madden

Loser - Anyone who drafts him as their fantasy QB

[Freitag]

Its personal becuase you are overall an ass who attacks people at all times but when someone says anything to you you pull the woe is me im the martyr here card at all times

And i call you BDC because you have no sports knowledge you simply parrot out the points of others like he did, but then again i guess your reading comprehension skills arent that great

Are you mis-reading my posts for someone elses? Yes, I do attack people. But if people give me garbage, I can roll with it. You either roll or you don't. And most of the time, my attacks are "busting chops", which I guess Kevin took too seriously.

(Kevin, c'mon, were you REALLY that upset because I mocked you for saying "ASB"? C'mon, you're being a LITTLE oversensitive)

If I get heat, it's usually because I deserve, but I don't get what you're saying that I'm "parroting" what other people say or the fact that I have no sports knowledge. Because I don't regurgitate facts or figures? Because I don't constantly post in the sports threads?

I admit, I'm not going to Stump the Schwab, but for you say that I have no sports knowledge and I parrot other people is out-and-out false. How do I even parrot other people? I don't provide links to blogs. If I repeat someone else said, I usually have my own take on it.

Seriously, this is turning into the stupidest flame war ever, and I've been in a lot of them. Just go home, KO.

[Freitag]

Loser - Anyone who drafts him as their fantasy QB


yeah, because four games against the Bills and Dolphins would be incredibly detrimental. He's gonna pick them apart.

Draft him as a backup, play him when your top tier guy is on a bye.

[Freitag]

Also: Winner - John Madden




HOW??? THE JETS AREN'T ON THE SUNDAY NIGHT SCHEDULE AT ALL. Is he gonna stop talking about the game at hand just to lavish praise on Favre? The only chance he'll have to do that is throwbacks from the studio at half time.*

[Freitag]

the above two posts illustrate that I don't have sports knowledge. ba dum cha!

[epo]

HOW??? THE JETS AREN'T ON THE SUNDAY NIGHT SCHEDULE AT ALL. Is he gonna stop talking about the game at hand just to lavish praise on Favre? The only chance he'll have to do that is throwbacks from the studio at half time.

Real question. Will the trade cause a re-print of the new Madden game with Favre in a Jets jersey? Seriously...Madden might sell an extra 100K copies of the game.

[Kevin]

I did not take it seriously. I was just pointing out that you do the same thing as KO does with the WE thing. And i could see it getting under peoples skin. Because you tend to be more aggressive. And people who dont know you well can be put off.

[Knowledged_one]

yeah, because four games against the Bills and Dolphins would be incredibly detrimental. He's gonna pick them apart.

Draft him as a backup, play him when your top tier guy is on a bye.

Well you are an idiot because he is on the cover of Madden football and as most people know the Madden cover boy tends to be a bust

but what do i know you are the smartest

[Freitag]

Real question. Will the trade cause a re-print of the new Madden game with Favre in a Jets jersey? Seriously...Madden might sell an extra 100K copies of the game.

I was actually thinking about that too. I think, I'm not sure, that Madden has already gone gold so it'll ship with Favre on the packers, but you can be damn sure that it's the earliest Major roster update for that game.

Knowing how cheap EA can be, I doubt they're gonna change the package. Elliott Sadler was on the cover of Nascar a few years ago and he changed teams, and EA had a lot of time to change the cover and they didn't.

Of course, Madden sells like 10x the copies that NASCAR does, so maybe a gaffe like this needs to be corrected.

It's like a nationwide version of that website that shows people wearin the outdated jerseys.

If I was in marketing, I'd fix it.

But it might be too late.

[Knowledged_one]

HOW??? THE JETS AREN'T ON THE SUNDAY NIGHT SCHEDULE AT ALL. Is he gonna stop talking about the game at hand just to lavish praise on Favre? The only chance he'll have to do that is throwbacks from the studio at half time.*

And yes Madden will spend time talking about Farve no matter what, he did it last year, but again your non-existent sports knowledge is astounding

[Freitag]

As a followup, Madden 2009 went gold back in late June, which means it's shipping with Favre in the packers jersey.

Oof.

[Snoogans]

As a followup, Madden 2009 went gold back in late June, which means it's shipping with Favre in the packers jersey.

Oof.

Namath sucks. However, we will wait and see if Favre unseats Kenny OBrien as the best jets QB ever

[Freitag]

Namath sucks. However, we will wait and see if Favre unseats Kenny OBrien as the best jets QB ever

There's no denying that O'Brien was the best Jets QB statistically, but he still didn't win a ring.

James Patrick was a better Rangers player than Stephane Matteau; whose name do people remember more?

(btw, I have no sports knowledge)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wow more posts on this thread than the last 6 Jet season threads combined I havent seen this many posts since the Richard Todd appreciation thread

[Chad Pennington]

Screw you fags, i am going to have a better year than that old has been.

I will make sure a friend of mine is at every Jet game just to yell, COREY WEBSTER! Favre will have nightmares.

[Snoogans]

There's no denying that O'Brien was the best Jets QB statistically, but he still didn't win a ring.

James Patrick was a better Rangers player than Stephane Matteau; whose name do people remember more?

(btw, I have no sports knowledge)

Nobody remembers any of them

[Tenbatsuzen]

Nobody remembers any of them

Even YOU'RE becoming a piss-poor impersonation of Snoogans.

[Snoogans]

Even YOU'RE becoming a piss-poor impersonation of Snoogans.

ok fine


WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF HE HAS A RING, STUPID. Bill Wennington has fuckin 3 rings, are we tryin to put his shitty ass in the HOF?

I might have to start a new website:

www.getjoenamathoutofthehalloffame.com

Of all HOFs for anything, not even sports, im including any HOF even if NAMBLA has one, Joe Namath is the LEAST DESERVING HOFer OF ALL TIME. AND HE SHOULD BE OUT

[Kevin]

Since we are letting shitty folks in the HOF because the won a ring..


http://www.capstoneconsulting.com/clubbers/images/news/perdue_nba.jpg

PICK ME,PICK ME!!

[Snoogans]

Since we are letting shitty folks in the HOF because the won a ring..


http://www.capstoneconsulting.com/clubbers/images/news/perdue_nba.jpg

PICK ME,PICK ME!!

Apparently all you need for the hall is a ring. TRENT DILFER IS THE BEST QB ALIVE

[Snoogans]

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 HOF inductees:



http://blogs.trb.com/sports/football/jets/blog/dilfer.jpg

http://asthecroweflies.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/lorenzen-giants.jpg

http://www.projo.com/photos/20070922/PATRIOTS_MM_05_resending_09-22-07_6C77KFI.jpg

[Kevin]

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 HOF inductees:





http://asthecroweflies.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/lorenzen-giants.jpg


Best #12 to ever make the HOF.

[epo]

ok fine


WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF HE HAS A RING, STUPID. Bill Wennington has fuckin 3 rings, are we tryin to put his shitty ass in the HOF?

I might have to start a new website:

www.getjoenamathoutofthehalloffame.com

Of all HOFs for anything, not even sports, im including any HOF even if NAMBLA has one, Joe Namath is the LEAST DESERVING HOFer OF ALL TIME. AND HE SHOULD BE OUT

Making fun of "Air Wennington" is so uncool.

[Snoogans]

Making fun of "Air Wennington" is so uncool.

do they call it air when there is only a half inch of it under your shoes when you jump?

[Tenbatsuzen]

FYI, EA has PDFs available that you can print out "accurate" covers for your madden.

http://kotaku.com/5035824/first-look-at-new-brett-favre-madden-jets-cover

[cougarjake13]

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/08/maddenps3_web.gif

[TheGameHHH]

favre is now my starting QB in one of my fantasy leagues, oh no

[cougarjake13]

favre is now my starting QB in one of my fantasy leagues, oh no



it wont be that bad

[MagillaGorillaz]

Is Favre wearing Packer yellow under his jersey? I could have sworn I just saw a hue of yellow.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is Favre wearing Packer yellow under his jersey? I could have sworn I just saw a hue of yellow.

It's going to be revealed after he hits Cotchery with a steel chair and Jim Ross yells "NOOO! NOOOO! MAH GAWD KING!"

[cougarjake13]

Is Favre wearing Packer yellow under his jersey? I could have sworn I just saw a hue of yellow.

It's going to be revealed after he hits Cotchery with a steel chair and Jim Ross yells "NOOO! NOOOO! MAH GAWD KING!"





nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Freitag]

BTW, the yellow under Favre's jersey was explained as that he is wearing the shoulder pads he wore with the packers, which had yellow highlights on there to mesh well with the jersey. I'm sure they'll be fixed for the next game. Or maybe not. Who knows. I'm sure if he doesn't fix them, the NFL will start fining him.

[cougarjake13]

BTW, the yellow under Favre's jersey was explained as that he is wearing the shoulder pads he wore with the packers, which had yellow highlights on there to mesh well with the jersey. I'm sure they'll be fixed for the next game. Or maybe not. Who knows. I'm sure if he doesn't fix them, the NFL will start fining him.



or force the jets to incorporate yellow into their color scheme

[cougarjake13]

nugents hurt


jets have to go for 2


guess they have no back up kicker

[King Hippos Bandaid]

its quite funny, they have to go for it on 4th down once they get to the opponents 35 yrd line

[cougarjake13]

now they got kellen clemens warming up on the sidelines as a kicker


hahaha


silly jets

[Tenbatsuzen]

now they got kellen clemens warming up on the sidelines as a kicker


hahaha


silly jets

I think they're warming him up as a PAT kicker... Simms is right, even someone like me could hit a PAT.

If Nugent is really hurt, the Carney/Tynes situation on the Giants will be cleared up really quickly. Tynes comes back, Carney gets the Jets job.

[cougarjake13]

I think they're warming him up as a PAT kicker... Simms is right, even someone like me could hit a PAT.

If Nugent is really hurt, the Carney/Tynes situation on the Giants will be cleared up really quickly. Tynes comes back, Carney gets the Jets job.




is nugent hurt that bad ??


yeh i didnt think he'd go in for any field goals unless they were in XP range

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm trying to figure out if this is a trap game or everyone simply forgot the Patriots do have a pretty good defense.

[lleeder]

Headline of Mondays New York Post : Favre From Good , gee gee gee

[MattCassel]

HOW DOES THAT TASTE, FAVRE.

I HAVE NEVER LOST A GAME IN MY CAREER.
What have you done, OTHER THEN LOST TO ME????????

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Brett Favre is a false idol

you have to play a very angry Chargers




same old Jets

[MattCassel]

Brett Favre is a false idol

you have to play a very angry Chargers




same old Jets

You son of a bitch, if the Jets win the next 10 games in a row im gonna kill you. ILL KILL YOU

[epo]

Brett Favre is a false idol

you have to play a very angry Chargers

same old Jets

Is that a LOX? If so, somebody might wanna warn Spoon.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Is that a LOX? If so, somebody might wanna warn Spoon.

Hell no


No Lox, I dont bet jets or Giants

so no lox

[MattCassel]

Hell no


No Lox, I dont bet jets or Giants

so no lox

My good friend Snoogans would like me to pass along a message:

THANK GOD

[cougarjake13]

are the jets gonna wear these wanna be packer uni's the rest of the year ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

are the jets gonna wear these wanna be packer uni's the rest of the year ??

They were only scheduled to wear them on 9/28 and 10/12.

I think there's an NFL rule limit on how many times you can wear your alternate jersey. it's one of the reasons the Chargers re-designed their jerseys because the alternates were proving more popular.

[cougarjake13]

They were only scheduled to wear them on 9/28 and 10/12.

I think there's an NFL rule limit on how many times you can wear your alternate jersey. it's one of the reasons the Chargers re-designed their jerseys because the alternates were proving more popular.



i just thought it was weird cause i never seen a team wear throwback uni's more than once a season let alone back to back games

[drjoek]

i just thought it was weird cause i never seen a team wear throwback uni's more than once a season let alone back to back games

I believe they are allowed to waer throwbacks 2 times a year.

[cougarjake13]

I believe they are allowed to waer throwbacks 2 times a year.



maybe i never paid close enough attention to it cause the giants dont have throwbacks, well they do but i cant remember them wearing them

but usually i've only seen a team wear it once, maybe i just miss the other time they wear or it or some teams only wear them once

[King Hippos Bandaid]

clears the tumbleweeds from this thread

tough one today against the hapless Chiefs

[epo]

Favre looks great!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I'm not surprised if Fireman Ed smothers Brett Favre in his sleep

[K.C.]

I'm not surprised if Fireman Ed smothers Brett Favre in his sleep

Brett Favre re-retirement press conference scheduled for 4:05 PM eastern.

[Kevin]

Brett Favre re-retirement press conference scheduled for 4:05 PM eastern.

I dont know what you are talking about. Brett Favre is the best qb in the NFL in my book.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Brett Favre re-retirement press conference scheduled for 4:05 PM eastern.

10 hr phone call to Belicheck explaining the Jets offensive playbook set for Tuesday


edit: the Jets score and take the lead in the last minute

Favre's life is saved

[K.C.]

10 hr phone call to Belicheck explaining the Jets offensive playbook set for Tuesday


edit: the Jets score and take the lead in the last minute

Favre's life is saved


A one week reprieve.

It would have been viciously ugly for the Jets this week if they'd have lost that game.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the Jets Suck

8-8 non playoffs is a step up


hope Favrereererferee retires at the end of the season

[Snoogans]

I love how Favre's wife is sayin how Brett is really not handling all the media attention well. ITS FUCKIN NEW YORK YOU GODDAMN HAYSEED, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT

[Bossanova]

I love how Favre's wife is sayin how Brett is really not handling all the media attention well. ITS FUCKIN NEW YORK YOU GODDAMN HAYSEED, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT

Yeah, not to mention ESPN was stationed in their back yard in Green Bay for the last three years. He had his name on the crawl on ESPN News, don't give me this attention shit.

[Snoogans]

Yeah, not to mention ESPN was stationed in their back yard in Green Bay for the last three years. He had his name on the crawl on ESPN News, don't give me this attention shit.

here is the difference. In green bay, he could do no wrong. All that attention was good. In NY, the attention is "Why the fuck do you keep throwing picks and making behind the scenes phone calls". THAT he cant handle

[epo]

here is the difference. In green bay, he could do no wrong. All that attention was good. In NY, the attention is "Why the fuck do you keep throwing picks and making behind the scenes phone calls". THAT he cant handle

Wait until this little secret drops.....

He still drinks.

[Snoogans]

Wait until this little secret drops.....

He still drinks.

can you confirm this? Cause ill call the daily news

[epo]

can you confirm this? Cause ill call the daily news

Call Paul Hornung because he talks about it all of the time.

[jimmyolsenblues]

earl must be so happy.
ron must be upset cause earl is so happy

[Contra]

"Oh yeah, we happy."

[cougarjake13]

man if the pack lose tonight and go to 5-6 while the ny bretts are 8-3


ohh man i'd hate to be ted thompson

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Randy guaranteed that the Jets would run the table


an easy win


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHH!!!!!!!!!!


know your role jets fans, be happy with over .500

[epo]

man if the pack lose tonight and go to 5-6 while the ny bretts are 8-3

ohh man i'd hate to be ted thompson

Why? He got a 4 year extension in the off-season (http://sportstalkbuzz.com/2008/01/07/packers-sign-gm-ted-thompson-to-extension/).

If anything I would hate to be the defensive coordinator and the special teams coach.

[cougarjake13]

Why? He got a 4 year extension in the off-season (http://sportstalkbuzz.com/2008/01/07/packers-sign-gm-ted-thompson-to-extension/).

If anything I would hate to be the defensive coordinator and the special teams coach.



yeh but the fans would be killing him is what i meant

[epo]

yeh but the fans would be killing him is what i meant

They aren't. Remember he took a 4-12 Mike Sherman GM'ed & coached team to where the franchise is now. This season is viewed as a blip.

[cougarjake13]

They aren't. Remember he took a 4-12 Mike Sherman GM'ed & coached team to where the franchise is now. This season is viewed as a blip.

packer fans are very forgivin and patient huh

[epo]

packer fans are very forgivin and patient huh

Two things:

1. You need to understand how fucked GB was when Thompson took over.
2. If you looked the number of injuries to key players this season, you'd understand why the season is viewed as a blip.

Green Bay ain't New York.

[cougarjake13]

Green Bay ain't New York.



yeh i can see taht

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's the trap games. IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING TRAP GAMES.

The single consolation I can take away from this is that NE lost too.

[cougarjake13]

It's the trap games. IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING TRAP GAMES.

The single consolation I can take away from this is that NE lost too.

and not that they were much of a threat but buffalo lost as well

[cougarjake13]

whats fucked up is the jets have to go all the way to the west coast to play san fran

then come home

then back out west to play seattle

[Tenbatsuzen]

and not that they were much of a threat but buffalo lost as well

playoff contender miami dolphins


my god

[Tenbatsuzen]

whats fucked up is the jets have to go all the way to the west coast to play san fran

then come home

then back out west to play seattle

you know, I don't get this travel shit. Ferrall was talking about this the other night. Football players are the toughest athletes of the four major sports, but the other three major sports do a HELL of a lot more travelling than football.

[cougarjake13]

playoff contender miami dolphins


my god

thats the parcells effect for ya

[epo]

playoff contender miami dolphins


my god

The NFL does love parity.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm so fucking sick and tired of this team. I'm turning into Beningo 20 years beforehand.

Today's game was PATHETIC. I don't care if it was fucking snowing. There is no reason you let a team like the MOTHERFUCKING SEAHAWKS beat you. Just bad loss after bad loss after bad loss.

You know what? During the draft, I begged and pleaded for the Jets to draft Flacco or Ryan. And they didn't.

They don't deserve to be in the playoffs. They don't deserve anything.

Assholes.

[Kevin]

I'm so fucking sick and tired of this team. I'm turning into Beningo 20 years beforehand.

Today's game was PATHETIC. I don't care if it was fucking snowing. There is no reason you let a team like the MOTHERFUCKING SEAHAWKS beat you. Just bad loss after bad loss after bad loss.

You know what? During the draft, I begged and pleaded for the Jets to draft Flacco or Ryan. And they didn't.

They don't deserve to be in the playoffs. They don't deserve anything.

Assholes.



Ryan was not there because you won a meaningless final game last year. Flacco was there though.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ryan was not there because you won a meaningless final game last year. Flacco was there though.

Correct. And I have no idea what the Jets plan to do in the draft this year, but they are not going to be in position to get a good QB because of their success, and if Favre hangs 'em up, it's going to be Clemens and TBA. Great. Just great.

I think the biggest problem is the coaching style. Mangini changed the personnel to fit his coaching style, rather than change his coaching style to fit the personnel. THAT'S A PROBLEM.

[Sinestro]

Manidiot sucks!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6636/disasta1um6.jpg

[epo]

Correct. And I have no idea what the Jets plan to do in the draft this year, but they are not going to be in position to get a good QB because of their success, and if Favre hangs 'em up, it's going to be Clemens and TBA. Great. Just great.

I think the biggest problem is the coaching style. Mangini changed the personnel to fit his coaching style, rather than change his coaching style to fit the personnel. THAT'S A PROBLEM.

So I should assume that the Packers are getting the third rounder rather than the second for making the playoffs?

[Ritalin]

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6636/disasta1um6.jpg

Wow, I saw him on SNY the other night for the first time, and he needs to stay off camera. He's brutal.

Aside: That studio is on 6th Ave in the 50's. I was walking by there with my two nephews - age 11 and 9 - and they were doing the Rutgers postgame, and the kids realized that they could jump up and down like jackasses AND see themselves in the monitors mounted in the windows.

I laughed for 10 minutes. It never stopped being funny.

The problem with the Jets? No leadership.

[Sinestro]

The problem with the Jets? No leadership.


???? They have leadership. It's just all bad and unflexible.

[Tenbatsuzen]

So I should assume that the Packers are getting the third rounder rather than the second for making the playoffs?

For the Jets to win the AFC East (and obstensibly, the only way to get in) they have to beat Miami and Pats lose to the Bills.

So yeah, 3rd round.

[west milly Tom]

Bring that shit back!

[epo]

For the Jets to win the AFC East (and obstensibly, the only way to get in) they have to beat Miami and Pats lose to the Bills.

So yeah, 3rd round.

Are the questions starting yet? The generally go like this:

Reporter: "Brett are you coming back next year?"

Favre: "Well, um, schucks, I'll spend some time on the tractor and talk some with Deanna to figure that out."

2 months later.....same questions.

[hammersavage]

Or a win and a Ravens loss.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Or a win and a Ravens loss.

Playing the Jags. Just as likely as the Pats losing to the Bills.

[hammersavage]

Keep hope alive Matty

[NickyL0885]

Is it baseball season yet? Between the Jets and the Islanders, I need the Mets right now. Even though all 3 break my heart on a consistent basis.

[TheGameHHH]

I can't believe I have to root for the Jets next week, cause I know there's no way the Jags bea the Ravens.

[Freitag]

Keep hope alive Matty

I am a Jets fan. Hope is a dangerous thing.

I knew the season was done - I KNEW IT - when people started getting hyped up about an all New York Super Bowl.

[cougarjake13]

Playing the Jags. Just as likely as the Pats losing to the Bills.

didnt see the bills beating the broncos either

yeh pats are better than denver but ya never know

[Lady Resin]

<-------------------fins fan:wacko:

[cougarjake13]

<-------------------fins fan:wacko:




lucky you

[Judge Smails]

Best play by a Jets player on Sunday - Shaun Ellis chucks a giant snowball at a Seahawks fan's head.


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[Tenbatsuzen]

If the Jets do not win on Sunday, I request the following:

1) A complete liquidation of the Jets coaching staff

2) Bill Cowher. BACK UP THE FUCKING TRUCK TO HIS HOUSE.

[cougarjake13]

If the Jets do not win on Sunday, I request the following:

1) A complete liquidation of the Jets coaching staff

2) Bill Cowher. BACK UP THE FUCKING TRUCK TO HIS HOUSE.

would cowher even be able to fix them ??

[epo]

'Disappointed' Brett drops hint about future (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008/12/disappointed-brett-drops-hint.html)

The Jets want Brett Favre to return in 2009, but does Favre want the Jets? Does he want any team in the NFL?

It didn't sound like it Wednesday, as Favre, in his weekly news conference at the Jets' facility, was downcast and reflective. The 39-year-old future Hall of Famer sounded like he was ready for another retirement.

"It's been a great career," Favre said. "This year was a gamble, I guess you could say - a risk, whatever you want to call it. I can honestly say I'm thankful I was given the opportunity here. It's been a lot of fun. It's been good and bad at times as far as our season has gone, but I'm glad I came. I made the right decision.

"This very well could be my last game. I'm aware of that. I'd like to make it a memorable one."

Damn does Favre love a soap opera starring him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

would cowher even be able to fix them ??

The Jets have a hard-on for hiring coaches with NO previous head coaching experience.

Coslet. Carroll. Groh. Mangini. Edwards.

At the very least, if they keep Mangini, hire Romeo Crennel as the D-coordinator.

[cougarjake13]

'Disappointed' Brett drops hint about future (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008/12/disappointed-brett-drops-hint.html)


Damn does Favre love a soap opera starring him.



does that deal they made with the packers carry on forever or just 2008 ??


cause if not why not trade brett to the vikings where he wanted to go all along

[cougarjake13]

The Jets have a hard-on for hiring coaches with NO previous head coaching experience.

Coslet. Carroll. Groh. Mangini. Edwards.

At the very least, if they keep Mangini, hire Romeo Crennel as the D-coordinator.

yeh that'd be a great move

plus he's coached here before for both giants and jets

[epo]

does that deal they made with the packers carry on forever or just 2008 ??

cause if not why not trade brett to the vikings where he wanted to go all along

They probably don't even want him now. It sounds like his shoulder is fucked up pretty good at this point.

[cougarjake13]

They probably don't even want him now. It sounds like his shoulder is fucked up pretty good at this point.

injured 50% favre is still better than ferotte or jackson

[cougarjake13]

looks like jets best route to playoffs is to beat the dolphins and have the jags beat the ravens


i think thats more likely than new england losing to buffalo

[epo]

injured 50% favre is still better than ferotte or jackson

I believe the deal was that if the Jets trade him to Minnesota EVER it was 3 first-round picks. I would suppose they could cut him, but that wouldn't be the best PR move at this point.

[cougarjake13]

I believe the deal was that if the Jets trade him to Minnesota EVER it was 3 first-round picks. I would suppose they could cut him, but that wouldn't be the best PR move at this point.

it says nothing about time so i dont know if its just 2008 or as long as he's a jet and not cut by them




The draft pick traded for Favre turns into a third-round selection if he plays in 50 percent of the plays this season, a second-rounder if he plays in 70 percent of the plays and the Jets qualify for the playoffs, and a first-round pick if he plays in 80 percent of the plays and Jets make it to the Super Bowl.

Schefter reports if Favre were to retire after the first year and the Packers got the Jets' first-round pick, then the Packers would send the Jets a fifth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' second-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' sixth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' third-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' seventh-round pick in 2010. Additionally, in the scenario in which the Packers would get the Jets' first-round pick, Favre must play in at least 50 percent of one playoff game for Green Bay to get that compensation.

Schefter also reports that the Packers took great pains to ensure Favre would not be traded to the Vikings -- or any other NFC North team -- by inserting a "poison pill" in the deal. If Favre were to be traded to any team in the Packers' division, the Jets would have to surrender three first-round picks to Green Bay. The trade also includes provisions preventing a trade to another team if that new team were to trade him to the NFC North.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Just do your job.

[cougarjake13]

well i was rooting for favre and the jets but it looks like the ravens are gonna win their game eliminating the jets

so i'd rather have the dolphins win the division then the patsies

[Tenbatsuzen]

Cut Brett, and either sign Cassell or look to the draft.

I'm sorry, I can't deal with this shit.

[epo]

Cut Brett, and either sign Cassell or look to the draft.

I'm sorry, I can't deal with this shit.

12 for 31 isn't good?

[cougarjake13]

Cut Brett, and either sign Cassell or look to the draft.

I'm sorry, I can't deal with this shit.



if they cut brett


can he sign with any one ??


i dont remember if the packers put anything in the deal about that
only about trading him

[TheGameHHH]

seriously, fuck the Jets

[lleeder]

You need alot patience to watch them play.

[cougarjake13]

seriously, fuck the Jets



how many millions do i get for it ??

[King Hippos Bandaid]

making the playoffs

fail

stopping your arch enemy Dolphins at home from making the playoffs for a moral victory

fail


muahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[epo]

Actually looking at his last 5 games, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets cut ties with Favre:

vs. Denver 60.9 QB rating
vs. SF 60.6
vs. Buff 61.4
vs. Sea 48.7
vs. Miami 36.8

Seriously, that's just pathetic.

[Kevin]

Actually looking at his last 5 games, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets cut ties with Favre:

vs. Denver 60.9 QB rating
vs. SF 60.6
vs. Buff 61.4
vs. Sea 48.7
vs. Miami 36.8

Seriously, that's just pathetic.

Has any legend had a worse end to their career?

He even ran off the field with his head down...

[cougarjake13]

which leads me to aks the question again


if they cut him can he sign with anyone ??

[epo]

which leads me to aks the question again


if they cut him can he sign with anyone ??

I don't think any of us know what kind of poison pill that the Packers gave the Jets on that deal.

[cougarjake13]

I don't think any of us know what kind of poison pill that the Packers gave the Jets on that deal.

only poison pill that i could find was that the jets couldnt trade favre to vikings or anyone else in pack division

and


they couldnt trade favre to another team and then that new team trades him to nfc north team


i couldnt find anything in there about if he got cut, which they prob imagined they'd never do since they gave up those picks to get him

[Tenbatsuzen]

if they cut brett


can he sign with any one ??


i dont remember if the packers put anything in the deal about that
only about trading him

Who the fuck cares?

If the Jets cut him, they take a cap hit and that's about it, but if the Packers tried to enact any poison pill clause in the trade deal, Gooddell will step in. It's not like the Jets are getting rid of Favre for some collusion or revenge on the Packers which is what they were scared about back in October. They were afraid that the Jets would turn and trade Favre to the Vikes or something.

It doesn't matter. Cut him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

only poison pill that i could find was that the jets couldnt trade favre to vikings or anyone else in pack division

and


they couldnt trade favre to another team and then that new team trades him to nfc north team


i couldnt find anything in there about if he got cut, which they prob imagined they'd never do since they gave up those picks to get him

*pick*. Singular. Not "picks". They are giving up a third round pick for this season. That's it.

I'm so glad I didn't buy into the hype and buy a Favre jersey. I laughed at the fools who wore Favre's number at the sports bar today.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm actually happy for Chad. I started actively rooting for the Dolphins when the Jags shit the bed.

Chad's one of my favorite active NFL players right now. So I'd like to see the Fins go far with Chad. I don't care at this point. Chad winning the superbowl may be the impetus for Woody Johnson to flush everyone.

The whole thing is this... WHAT MAKES THE DOLPHINS SO SPECIAL? The answer is this: The coach adjusted his scheme to the talent he had, NOT forcing his talent into his scheme.

Sparano is coach of the year. Chad would flourish in a short-passing scheme. AND HE HAS NEARLY 4000 YARDS.

[epo]

Who the fuck cares?

If the Jets cut him, they take a cap hit and that's about it, but if the Packers tried to enact any poison pill clause in the trade deal, Gooddell will step in. It's not like the Jets are getting rid of Favre for some collusion or revenge on the Packers which is what they were scared about back in October. They were afraid that the Jets would turn and trade Favre to the Vikes or something.

It doesn't matter. Cut him.

I'll say this...Goodell better not step in. That deal was made under his watch so he knows the details of it. So if there is a poison pill, the Jets will have to eat it if necessary.

That being said, I highly doubt there is a poison pill for Favre blowing and getting cut.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I pray that the economy forces the jets to force you to keep the Hydrox Belichek for another year of misery

I would also find humor if Favre signs with the Dolphins and gets Pennington released again

[epo]

I pray that the economy forces the jets to force you to keep the Hydrox Belichek for another year of misery

I would also find humor if Favre signs with the Dolphins and gets Pennington released again

Maybe the Jets could trade a conditional draft pick for Pennington?

[cougarjake13]

it says nothing about time so i dont know if its just 2008 or as long as he's a jet and not cut by them




The draft pick traded for Favre turns into a third-round selection if he plays in 50 percent of the plays this season, a second-rounder if he plays in 70 percent of the plays and the Jets qualify for the playoffs, and a first-round pick if he plays in 80 percent of the plays and Jets make it to the Super Bowl.

Schefter reports if Favre were to retire after the first year and the Packers got the Jets' first-round pick, then the Packers would send the Jets a fifth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' second-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' sixth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' third-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' seventh-round pick in 2010. Additionally, in the scenario in which the Packers would get the Jets' first-round pick, Favre must play in at least 50 percent of one playoff game for Green Bay to get that compensation.

Schefter also reports that the Packers took great pains to ensure Favre would not be traded to the Vikings -- or any other NFC North team -- by inserting a "poison pill" in the deal. If Favre were to be traded to any team in the Packers' division, the Jets would have to surrender three first-round picks to Green Bay. The trade also includes provisions preventing a trade to another team if that new team were to trade him to the NFC North.


i knew i posted something about it already

[cougarjake13]

I pray that the economy forces the jets to force you to keep the Hydrox Belichek for another year of misery

I would also find humor if Favre signs with the Dolphins and gets Pennington released again

parcells doesnt like flashy qb's alledgedlly


and pennington is one of his guys

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Maybe the Jets could trade a conditional draft pick for Pennington?


:lol:


well done Epo


Favre shoulda stayed with the Packers, that turncoat got what he deserved

Favre wanted a Montana ending to his career, he didnt know that the Jets are career cancer

[lleeder]

i knew i posted something about it already

sailor told me you had

[mdr55]

I know that Thomas Jones had a good year but he isn't really that good a running back. He wasn't when he was in Arizona and he shared the load with the other dude in Chicago.

[Aaron Rodgers]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!

Thanks again for removing the hillbilly cyst from my Green Bay Packers.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know that Thomas Jones had a good year but he isn't really that good a running back. He wasn't when he was in Arizona and he shared the load with the other dude in Chicago.

I'm really wondering how you can say that when he's had four seasons of 1000+ yards rushing and one season where he had 950.

No one is saying that Thomas Jones is a HOF RB, but he's a serviceable running back. He's a good, not great, back. He and Leon make a good combination.

Besides, who the FUCK is laying blame on Jones for this disaster? NOBODY is faulting him for anything. The disaster of this season falls on three people - Favre, Mangini, and Sutton. To a lesser extent, Kris Jenkins who all but vanished.

[Tenbatsuzen]

:lol:


well done Epo


Favre shoulda stayed with the Packers, that turncoat got what he deserved

Favre wanted a Montana ending to his career, he didnt know that the Jets are career cancer

Ugh. Seriously. I accept that the Jets are a cursed organization, but it's not like Favre had a wonderful season and there were failings around him that led to a disaster. HE WAS THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. How can you call the Jets "cancer" when he's throwing OVER 20 PICKS?!? THat's not that Jets fault, that's a Favre problem.

I'm apoplectic. I may just lose it.

[west milly Tom]

Haha, the jets. Football's yearly punch line. Lol

[TripleSkeet]

Like I said from the beginning, when it cvounts the true Favre will step up and throw picks like a machine.

He was great 10 years ago, but hes living off his reputation. He hasnt accompilished anything since 1997.

I was so happy to see Miami beat them today.

Oh and just a quick FYI, in a league that plays 16 games a season, 1000 yards rushing doesnt make you a good back. It makes you a mediocre back, at best. 1500 yards is the new milestone to be considered a great rusher. In my opinion anyway. I dont know, I just dont consider 62 yards a game to be anything special.

[spadanko]

10 am Press Conference with Woody Johnson and Mike tenenbaum. Mangini not there.

Could be the end

EDIT: Profootballtalk.com says he is gone

[Disaster]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3797442



Reports are hes gone inside a half hour. Damn thats fast looks like Favre won that battle

[Dash77]

Who should be the next Coach

[PD]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3797442



Reports are hes gone inside a half hour. Damn thats fast looks like Favre won that battle

Jay Glazer was on WFAN, and said this morning Jet officials told the players that Mangini is gone. No word on Tannenbaum, who will most likely stay.

I'll be happy with Spagnolo or Cowher.

as for Favre, I don't think he's coming back either; I think it will be mutual in a few months.

-edit- press conference on now.

[Warren Peace]

Who should be the next Coach

Turner Gill

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The Jets should hire Cowher Spagnolo or to a lesser extent Billick


anyone else and the cancer cycle continues

[Don Stugots]

Hippo, that hydrox line was great.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I like the idea of Spags but I'm kind of scared again of hiring someone with no HC experience, which is why Cowher is a better option, IMHO. However, it might be easier to get Spags than Cowher.

[El Mudo]

Who should be the next Coach

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blog/kotite.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blog/kotite.jpg

I hope the Russian mob breaks both of Ovechkin's legs

[TripleSkeet]

You guys have no shot at getting Cowher.

[El Mudo]

I hope the Russian mob breaks both of Ovechkin's legs

The same way he broke Lundqvist's ankles? :wink:


http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6eb5e69f-7bcf-4f6d-9f34-1a3b309a1777.jpg

[spadanko]

You guys have no shot at getting Cowher.

he told the Cleveland owner he is not returning to the league until 2010

[Snoogans]

I like the idea of Spags but I'm kind of scared again of hiring someone with no HC experience, which is why Cowher is a better option, IMHO. However, it might be easier to get Spags than Cowher.

Spags wouldn't leave for Washington last year, I don't think he would leave for the Jets

[Snoogans]

Why not hire Joe Namath since you guys already think he is so good at something he blew at. No matter what he does, at least you guys will convince yourselves he is a HOFer

[TripleSkeet]

Whats funny to me is, when the Jets signed Favre and basically threw Pennington out with the trash and he signed with Miami, the first thing I said to a friend of mine was "They play Miami the last game of the season. I pray to God they need that game to make the playoffs and Miami knocks them out."

I never dreamed it would be for the division but that was a nice touch too. Favre - 3 picks. So predictable.

J-E-T-S FACE FACE FACE!

[Freakshow]

he told the Cleveland owner he is not returning to the league until 2010

Translation: Daniel Snyder is going to give me one of the hawaiian islands (a good one, not the leper one) to coach his team.

[TripleSkeet]

Translation: Daniel Snyder is going to give me one of the hawaiian islands (a good one, not the leper one) to coach his team.

Wasnt that just on the Simpsons? I think Mr. Burns was gonna give Homer that one for a teddy bear.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You guys have no shot at getting Cowher.

What makes you say that? He's got a house in Jersey. He works in New York.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Spags wouldn't leave for Washington last year, I don't think he would leave for the Jets

Why? He wouldn't have to move, he's got a very good O-line in place (and reportedly, a good d-line but you couldn't tell).

Washington was a much bigger disaster last year than the Jets this year.

[Snoogans]

Why? He wouldn't have to move, he's got a very good O-line in place (and reportedly, a good d-line but you couldn't tell).

Washington was a much bigger disaster last year than the Jets this year.

pretty much no Qb and a team full of losers. It would be like taking the Mets job

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Joe Walton and Rich Kotite are the #1 & #2 contenders

[Snoogans]

You could get Ray Hanley, he worked out well for the g men

[PD]

Spags wouldn't leave for Washington last year, I don't think he would leave for the Jets

Daniel Snyder isn't Woody Johnson.

Carl Banks on WFAN was saying if Cowher doesn't come, he'd take Marty Shottenheimer.
while he's awful postseason, hes damn good in season.

[TripleSkeet]

What makes you say that? He's got a house in Jersey. He works in New York.

His family home is actually in North Carolina. I think he only has a place in Jersey because his daughter goes to Princeton and for his analyst job.

Besides him saying he wouldnt come back til at least 2010, to be honest, I just dont see him wanting to coach in NY. Its like almost the polar opposite of coaching in Pittsburgh.

[Kevin]

His family home is actually in North Carolina. I think he only has a place in Jersey because his daughter goes to Princeton and for his analyst job.

Besides him saying he wouldnt come back til at least 2010, to be honest, I just dont see him wanting to coach in NY. Its like almost the polar opposite of coaching in Pittsburgh.

And does he really want to coach in the same place as the Giants?

No matter what he does, he would still be like #5 in NY

Its prob... Yankees Giants Mets and all things equal, (both good or shitty) Knicks Jets Rangers.

If the Knicks are good, you could prob put them at 2, or at least 3.

[Fallon]

This is the silver lining I was hoping for after having to root for the Jets yesterday.

Fuck Mangina.

[epo]

Favre's injury won't require major surgery (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/36914204.html)

New York Jets quarterback Brett Favre reportedly has a torn biceps tendon in his right arm that will not need major surgery to repair, ESPN said Tuesday.

The 39-year-old Favre routinely underthrew receivers and appeared to lose some velocity on his throws late in the season as the Jets went 1-4 down the stretch and failed to make the playoffs. ESPN, citing unnamed sources, reported that Favre would need arthroscopic surgery to repair the injury, but could also play without having an operation.

Favre's agent, James "Bus" Cook, did not respond to e-mail and phone messages left by The Associated Press seeking comment.

After the Jets' season-ending 24-17 loss to Miami on Sunday, Favre said he's been feeling discomfort in his strong right arm "for quite a while." He also complained of pain in the back of the shoulder, the biceps and sometimes in his neck.

Favre, who also reportedly has some calcification in the area of the injury, is expected to take several weeks to decide whether he will return to the Jets, ESPN reported.

This is how the retirement drama starts. It should end sometime in March or April.

[Snoogans]

Favre's injury won't require major surgery (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/36914204.html)



This is how the retirement drama starts. It should end sometime in March or April.

hopefully it will "end" with favre announcing he is COMING BACK TO THE JETS TO FUCK THEM OUT OF ONE MORE YEAR


WOOOOOOOOOOOO INTERCEPTIONS!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.. SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRY (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/12/30/jets.ap/index.html)

[NewYorkDragons80]

hopefully it will "end" with favre announcing he is COMING BACK TO THE JETS TO FUCK THEM OUT OF ONE MORE YEAR


WOOOOOOOOOOOO INTERCEPTIONS!!!!!!!

I'm not gonna say Favre didn't have a bad game on Sunday, but how many interceptions all season have bounced out of the hands of his own receivers?

[Kevin]

I'm not gonna say Favre didn't have a bad game on Sunday, but how many interceptions all season have bounced out of the hands of his own receivers?

NOT nearly as many as he threw right into the hands of the other team

[cougarjake13]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.. SSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRY (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/12/30/jets.ap/index.html)




sucks for jets fans

[cougarjake13]

I'm not gonna say Favre didn't have a bad game on Sunday, but how many interceptions all season have bounced out of the hands of his own receivers?

he throws too hard

[Dan 'Hampton]

He's a ticking timebomb that will always do you guys in in the end. I love it. Please keep him.

[cougarjake13]

jets will win first 9 games in 2009, then lose 7 in a row and miss the playoffs

[Dan 'Hampton]

They win 9 games next year you can punch me in the face.
No really I mean it.

[Snoogans]

Thomas Jones hates favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004)


Team owner Woody Johnson has stated clearly that he wants Brett Favre to be the New York Jets' quarterback next season, but some players seem to be bristling at the thought.

Days after the Jets' 1-4 finish left them out of the playoffs and helped trigger Eric Mangini's firing as coach, running back Thomas Jones blasted Favre's final-game performance and seemed to suggest the QB's play -- nine interceptions and only two touchdown passes in the final five games -- called for his benching.

"We're a team and we win together ... but at the same time, you can't turn the ball over and expect to win," Jones said in an interview Tuesday with New York Hot 97 FM. Favre threw three interceptions in the Jets' season-ending 24-17 loss to Miami that clinched the AFC East for the Dolphins.

"The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that's just reality," Jones told the radio station. "If I were to sit here and say, 'Oh, man, it's OK,' that's not reality. ... I don't like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn't like it.
"If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game," Jones told Hot 97 FM. "You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not [fair].

[epo]

Thomas Jones hates favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004)

Sounds like a great locker room situation.

[cougarjake13]

if he had any thoughts of coming back maybe this will keep him from doing so


or


asking for a release from the jets

[Snoogans]

DONT SAY THAT

we want Favre back with the Jets. PLEASE

[cougarjake13]

DONT SAY THAT

we want Favre back with the Jets. PLEASE

i'd like to see him back




but if you think long term what makes more sense


fuck favre ... and maybe you get cowher


or 1 or 2 more years of favre, and then what

[Snoogans]

i'd like to see him back




but if you think long term what makes more sense


fuck favre ... and maybe you get cowher


or 1 or 2 more years of favre, and then what

obviously whatever is worse for the jets is what I want

[cougarjake13]

obviously whatever is worse for the jets is what I want

then broadway brett is your man

[lleeder]

I love Hot 97 as the credible sports source on this story. They get more out of players than anyone else.

[Snoogans]

I love Hot 97 as the credible sports source on this story. They get more out of players than anyone else.

blazin hip hop and R&B

[cougarjake13]

I love Hot 97 as the credible sports source on this story. They get more out of players than anyone else.

its all about thug life



maybe if plax woulda talked to them he wouldnt have shot himself

[lleeder]

blazin hip hop and R&B

I know it. Sat 10th row at the holiday show.

[Snoogans]

I know it. Sat 10th row at the holiday show.

you gonna go to summer jam?

[lleeder]

you gonna go to summer jam?

thats a little too big for me. I'm going to see lil wayne and tpain in january

[Snoogans]

I'm waitin for TI to get off house arrest so I can go see his show

[drjoek]

Espn crawl says unnamed Jets felt it was Bretts fault and a lot of resentment for Farve not Mangini. Farve would hang out in offices rather than with teammates.

[lleeder]

I'm waitin for TI to get off house arrest so I can go see his show

He's off. I saw him twice in the last month. Once at Hammerstein ballroom then last saturday at the holiday show at the coliseum. Ludacris was there too and brought out Busta.

[cougarjake13]

Espn crawl says unnamed Jets felt it was Bretts fault and a lot of resentment for Farve not Mangini. Farve would hang out in offices rather than with teammates.

yeh i saw that


not looking good for a favre part duex

[lleeder]

yeh i saw that


not looking good for a favre part duex

Unnamed pussy. Just say what you feel. I have alot of respect for Jones speeking his mind. Even more if he did it during the season but at least he had the nerve to say something on the record.

[Snoogans]

He's off. I saw him twice in the last month. Once at Hammerstein ballroom then last saturday at the holiday show at the coliseum. Ludacris was there too and brought out Busta.

WHAT THE FUCK. Keep me informed of these happenings. You are supposed to be postin news and polls about this shit