Washington Redskins Thread

[Knowledged_one]

Well here we go folks they have the Colts this weekend in teh first pre-season games.

In the tough NFC East a 3-3 division record would be considered great for any of the teams i think.

The skins do start out tough with 3 games against the division in the first 5 weeks of the season

And the Jason Taylor trade should be a great benefit to go with Andre Carter on the other side.

What do you skins fans think?

[RAAMONE]

not a skins fan but...

if anyone here has 2 extra tickets to the skins/steelers monday night game please let me know

[Dirtybird12]

I was at training camp last Sunday and Jason Campbell looked really good. No sign of leg trouble. Strong arm and the usual jazz. I dont know if these guys work extra hard because of the practice being open to the public or not, but they were seriously busting some ass out there. It was 8:30 AM and already HOT as hell. Special teams looked really good too.


Coach Zorn reiterated that rookies would not have Redskins logos on their helmets until they make the team after the fifth preseason game. Under NFL rules, all players will wear helmets with logos during preseason games. But when the next practice begins, those logos will be peeled off the rookies' headgear. "I want these guys to have a sense they have earned something," Zorn said

[Knowledged_one]

not a skins fan but...

if anyone here has 2 extra tickets to the skins/steelers monday night game please let me know

My brother has tickets i will check and see

The only thing is these are season tickets so i would trust that you wouldnt be a dick in the stands and cause problems. Im sure you wont but i just have to put it out there

[RAAMONE]

My brother has tickets i will check and see

The only thing is these are season tickets so i would trust that you wouldnt be a dick in the stands and cause problems. Im sure you wont but i just have to put it out there

thanks for checkin into it!

nah i'm cool...me and my girl just really want to go and i'm tryin to find something cheaper than stub hub and other sites

[Knowledged_one]

They will be face value, the only thing is you may have to pay a bit extra for the parking pass for the lot, however i believe the lot he has is right in front of the stadium

and for the most part skins fans are cool about other fans as long as you dont act like a dick they are fine

[RAAMONE]

They will be face value, the only thing is you may have to pay a bit extra for the parking pass for the lot, however i believe the lot he has is right in front of the stadium

and for the most part skins fans are cool about other fans as long as you dont act like a dick they are fine

thanks man

i wont have to worry about parking, have some friends already goin down that i can get a ride with...keep me posted

[cougarjake13]

Coach Zorn reiterated that rookies would not have Redskins logos on their helmets until they make the team after the fifth preseason game. Under NFL rules, all players will wear helmets with logos during preseason games. But when the next practice begins, those logos will be peeled off the rookies' headgear. "I want these guys to have a sense they have earned something," Zorn said


i like that idea, all teams should incorporate that if they dont already

[Kevin]

i like that idea, all teams should incorporate that if they dont already


Just like having your starting and back up DEs hurt in 7 on 7 drills. Where a DE should not even be in.

[cougarjake13]

Just like having your starting and back up DEs hurt in 7 on 7 drills. Where a DE should not even be in.

ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh

you dont want the skins to actually ever be good again , do you ??

[Kevin]

2 words, Daniel Snider.

[Kevin]

They will be face value, the only thing is you may have to pay a bit extra for the parking pass for the lot, however i believe the lot he has is right in front of the stadium

and for the most part skins fans are cool about other fans as long as you dont act like a dick they are fine


I heard the exact opposite about Skin fans. I heard they can be incredibaly obnoxious and pompous. And i have heard it from multiple teams fans.

[cougarjake13]

2 words, Daniel Snider.

thats a given

[Knowledged_one]

I heard the exact opposite about Skin fans. I heard they can be incredibaly obnoxious and pompous. And i have heard it from multiple teams fans.

Like i said if a person shows up like a drunken asshole and starts instigating things then yeah the fans are gonna let you know. But i know the section i sat in before i moved we never had problems with fans as they acted cool, but when dicks would come and stand up and do the first down hand motion everytime and turn and taunt the fans then they get what they deserve

I went to Lincoln Financial to watch the skins eagles game 2 years ago, my brother and i were cool didnt taunt and had no trouble a redskins fan about 12 rows down was acting like a dick and had his hat thrown off the upper deck and soda thrown on him. I was so embarrassed i told the guy he was acting like a dick

Its all how you act

And keep hating on Dan Snyder guys, he's a great owner

[Knowledged_one]

2 words, Daniel Snider.

I hate him also but

Dan Snyder is money

[Freakshow]

I think i'm going to the Buffalo game saturday...

[Enabler]

I heard the exact opposite about Skin fans. I heard they can be incredibaly obnoxious and pompous. And i have heard it from multiple teams fans.

Ive been a season ticket holder for 4 years now and Ive only seen one fight and the Cowboy fan was begging for it. For the most part Skins fans are some of the most humble fans around. On the contrary I have never received more abuse at any stadium in any sport than at Giants Stadium during Giants/Redskins games.

[cougarjake13]

colt brennan looked good last night

i know it wasnt against the starters but he still looked good

[Knowledged_one]

colt brennan looked good last night

i know it wasnt against the starters but he still looked good

I think if nothing else he has solidified himself as the #3 QB on the roster, its also easy to see why he slipped in the draft. He played in a gimmick offense and he has a side-arm delivery

Its just funny that because he's a sidearm thrower the scouts devalue him

[CountryBob]

Been a Skins fan all of my life and I am happy that football is back. After the game with Indy the biggest impression I took away was the play of Colt Brennan. He totally blew me away.
Also, I expect the Skins to win alot of games this year. They are probably as close to a complete team since the 90's now and this is going to be a great season.

The running game will determine their success - if Portis keeps up his end of the bargain the pressure will be off Campbell to throw as much.
Hail to the Redskins!

[TonyStark]

I think if nothing else he has solidified himself as the #3 QB on the roster, its also easy to see why he slipped in the draft. He played in a gimmick offense and he has a side-arm delivery

Its just funny that because he's a sidearm thrower the scouts devalue him

Also, the competition he was passing against was the WAC. Which is just about the farthest thing you can get from a football conference. I mean imagine the difference in quality he saw as to what Jason Campbell would have seen at Auburn.

[cougarjake13]

I think if nothing else he has solidified himself as the #3 QB on the roster, its also easy to see why he slipped in the draft. He played in a gimmick offense and he has a side-arm delivery

Its just funny that because he's a sidearm thrower the scouts devalue him

so was/is phillip rivers and he went 4th in the first round

i think if he played stateside and for a decent team the arm thing would have been over looked

[Enabler]

Brennan played like Tony Romo but better, and less gay.

[cougarjake13]

Brennan played like Tony Romo but better, and less gay.

he'll be dating miley cyrus in 3 years

[Knowledged_one]

Brennan played like Tony Romo but better, and less gay.

Fez is less gay then tony romo

[Freakshow]

I call him Tony Homo. (I came up with that all by myself).

[Enabler]

Has everyone seen this clip? I know the guy has been hurt and already had his knee scoped, but the kid can spit. I love the line "Sippn codeine cuz I gotta killa cough." I pray to God he can contribute something this year.

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[Knowledged_one]

I wouldnt expect much out of the two rookie WR's this year with Moss and Randle El entrenched as teh starters

I think Fred Davis may have the most impact of the top 3 and to be honest Chad Rinehart will have the most impact for them

The team has looked good though in the first 2 games and Jason Campbell has really looked good out there. I think Zorn may actually be a great coach for the skins he seems no nonsense in his dealings (see his criticisms of Kelly and Thomas as examples)

Hey look at that i talked about my favorite team and didnt use "we" once

[Freakshow]

Billy McMullen looked surprisingly sharp. Of course he was playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers. But I think he can push Thrash for a 3rd WR spot maybe.

[cougarjake13]

I wouldnt expect much out of the two rookie WR's this year with Moss and Randle El entrenched as teh starters

I think Fred Davis may have the most impact of the top 3 and to be honest Chad Rinehart will have the most impact for them

The team has looked good though in the first 2 games and Jason Campbell has really looked good out there. I think Zorn may actually be a great coach for the skins he seems no nonsense in his dealings (see his criticisms of Kelly and Thomas as examples)

Hey look at that i talked about my favorite team and didnt use "we" once


ahh but you said i wouldnt expect much out of the rookie wr's when you should have used the team

[Knowledged_one]

thats my opinion of the WR's not that i am part of the team

[cougarjake13]

thats my opinion of the WR's not that i am part of the team

so how is that any different then when i or anyone else says we need to do this or do that when talking about our teams ??

its our opinion as well

[Knowledged_one]

so how is that any different then when i or anyone else says we need to do this or do that when talking about our teams ??

its our opinion as well

are you that much of a dullard?

We implies being part of the team you are talking about, I is my opinion about the team i root for and support but dont consider myself apart of

[cougarjake13]

are you that much of a dullard?

We implies being part of the team you are talking about, I is my opinion about the team i root for and support but dont consider myself apart of



no just like busting your chops

[PapaBear]

Sonny Jurgensen and Sam Huff (though absolute legends that are worthy of fan worship), are completely losing their minds, are way too annoying, and need to stop calling the games on the radio. PLEASE!!!

[TonyStark]

Sonny Jurgensen and Sam Huff (though absolute legends that are worthy of fan worship), are completely losing their minds, are way too annoying, and need to stop calling the games on the radio. PLEASE!!!
Totally agreed. Sonny's slowly losing his mind and as much as I love him, he just needs to hang em up.

[Knowledged_one]

I hate listening to them they constantly call the wrong player numbers or names and just stumble and bumble

and Larry Micheal is the absolute worst

I think that next year it will be Theismann and Mike Patrick

[MM2]

Sonny Jurgensen and Sam Huff (though absolute legends that are worthy of fan worship), are completely losing their minds, are way too annoying, and need to stop calling the games on the radio. PLEASE!!!

Huff lost his mind years ago lol. Sadly Sonny is starting to lose it, and it makes me cry inside...

[MM2]

I hate listening to them they constantly call the wrong player numbers or names and just stumble and bumble

and Larry Micheal is the absolute worst

I think that next year it will be Theismann and Mike Patrick

Theismann is a dick and is a terrible analyst. He was a great QB, but is terrible in the booth. When I hear something stupid come out of his mouth, I pray for LT to rush the booth, haha!

[PapaBear]

They should get El Jefe to call the games. After all, he IS a life long Redskins fan.:unsure:

[cougarjake13]

Theismann is a dick and is a terrible analyst. He was a great QB, but is terrible in the booth. When I hear something stupid come out of his mouth, I pray for LT to rush the booth, haha!

yeh i never liked theismann on MNF

[Ogre]

Sonny Jurgensen and Sam Huff (though absolute legends that are worthy of fan worship), are completely losing their minds, are way too annoying, and need to stop calling the games on the radio. PLEASE!!!

Noticed this myself at the end of last year about Sonny. Sam has been on the slippery slope to mushbrainsville for the past couple of seasons. Larry Michael is a company man. I do not think i have heard that man say one negative thing about Snyder or the org. ever. Criticize Players yes. Company never. It sure as hell aint Sonny, Sam, and Frank from the good ole days.

I tell you what is worse is that Torico, Jaws, Tony K debacle that MNF has become. It is unlistenable.

[cougarjake13]

Noticed this myself at the end of last year about Sonny. Sam has been on the slippery slope to mushbrainsville for the past couple of seasons. Larry Michael is a company man. I do not think i have heard that man say one negative thing about Snyder or the org. ever. Criticize Players yes. Company never. It sure as hell aint Sonny, Sam, and Frank from the good ole days.

I tell you what is worse is that Torico, Jaws, Tony K debacle that MNF has become. It is unlistenable.


they're horrible to listen to, and yet they're still there

jaws goes way too deep into the i used to be a player and heres how i saw it perspective
tony k thinks he's on sat night live
and tirico just seems to try and refocus things on the game b/c of the other 2 but is just plain boring

[Ogre]

Wow,

The Skins stink on alot of levels. Jason Campbell has regressed. The O-Line looks like they have never met one another. No control of the line of scrimmage on either side. How many 3 and longs did they give up as a defense ? The primary first contact run defense is the saftey for fucks sake. I know that things can be worked out in the long run, but there should be no delusions about this year. 6-10 maybe 7-9 if we are lucky. I like how Zorn is frank about his player's performance. Kind of refreshing change from JG always taking one for the team on Mondays.

Bring on the Gints

[Enabler]

Ugh. Awful. Hey Zorn, lets run another draw for Portis late in the 4th quarter, down 2 scores. Just because Portis is the only Redskin on the field who came to play doesnt mean he can win it alone. Zorn is lost. Campbell is lost. Big ups to the D. Giants shouldve won by 21. Fuck.

[Kevin]

Ugh. Awful. Hey Zorn, lets run another draw for Portis late in the 4th quarter, down 2 scores. Just because Portis is the only Redskin on the field who came to play doesnt mean he can win it alone. Zorn is lost. Campbell is lost. Big ups to the D. Giants shouldve won by 21. Fuck.

Seriously, Zorn maybe the worst coach this side of Richie Kotite and Handley..

[PapaBear]

Do Zorn and Campbell even know that Cooley is on their team?:wallbash:

Got another Sunny and Sam radio complaint, too. On that last drive, one of the geezers (not sure which one it was) said, "I'd like to see them get a score here". Even Larry Michaels pointed out how stupid it was.

[Judge Smails]

I was going to post this in the Giants thread but then I thought it would be more fun to put it here.

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[Ogre]

Seriously, Zorn maybe the worst coach this side of Richie Kotite and Handley..

there is no need to get nasty

[Enabler]

My sunburn has moved into the peeling stage. The heat, the 3.5hr drive from NJ, the $8 beers...all worth it. If the Redskins offense could manage to score touchdowns in the red zone, instead of miss field goals, they could be scary good. They could have beaten the Saints by more than they did. Stephen Davis...I mean Chris Horton came up big. Bring it Arizona!

(ps. Despite what my sweat stains say, I did not take the field at any point.)

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[Knowledged_one]

If the skins can beat dallas this weekend (and thats a big if)

they will have beaten a 1-0 team then a 2-0 team then a 3-0 team

I wonder what that record is for beating the most undefeated teams in a row?

And Zorn has looked a lot better and comfortable coaching since the first game

Im starting to get Horny for Zorny again

[cougarjake13]

If the skins can beat dallas this weekend (and thats a big if)

they will have beaten a 1-0 team then a 2-0 team then a 3-0 team

I wonder what that record is for beating the most undefeated teams in a row?

And Zorn has looked a lot better and comfortable coaching since the first game

Im starting to get Horny for Zorny again



damn i dont think even google could help answer that

[Ogre]

I think the Redskins can shut down TO and Whitten. It will be a matter of getting pressure on Romo. That might be a problem considering the Dallas O Line are monsters. Defensively I think Moss and Cooley could cause some problems, but the O LIne needs to give Campbell time. Portis might have a better game with blitz pickups than yds from scrimmage. Redskins in an upset 27-24 on a late drive by Campbell. GW TD thrown to Yoder.

Now that the wishful thinking segment of the post is over. Back to Earth. The Dallas O Line wins the day and Barber has a strong day.

Redskins still win. I cannot and will not predict Dallas to win.

HTTR. PS Somebody better get Zorn to hatin on these fuckers...A little passion Jimmy, for fucksake.

"I just don't have the animosity yet," said Zorn, who actually has fond memories of breaking into the NFL with Dallas in 1975 as a backup to Roger Staubach. He didn't last long on a team that carried 12 other rookies on its way to the Super Bowl, but he still can't hold a grudge.

[K.C.]

Very, very, impressive win by the Redskins.

I had them pegged as the weak link of the East....now, I'm not so sure.

[disneyspy]

good win,cambell and santana are a great combo

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Zorn's offense is rolling Randle El is providing offense

well done

[razorboy]

Jason Campbell is damned impressive. He throws the prettiest deep ball I have seen in a long, long time.

[scottinnj]

If the skins can beat dallas this weekend (and thats a big if)


Won and Done.

Nice job for the Redskins.

Way to go!

[Enabler]

Big big win. Chris Horton lookin like a 7th round steal! The defense on the last drive was way too lax but EVERYTHING else looked good. That 11 point spread was bullshit.

[PapaBear]

This win felt so f-ing great! I hope the Bears can upset Philly. That would make it even nicer!

[zildjian361]

as long as the Redskins win my Brother in law is buying,:drunk::smoke:and then some:wink::wink:

[MM2]

Philly a 6.5 point favorite?!?!?!

I would not be shocked if the Skins go into Philly and lay an egg and have a big let down and lose, but they should in no way be a 6.5 pt dog to a team that made Kyle Orton look good. This should be a pick 'em game.

I will take 3-2 with three home games left against NY, DAL and PHI. But 4-1 would be so sweet!

[Knowledged_one]

Philly a 6.5 point favorite?!?!?!

I would not be shocked if the Skins go into Philly and lay an egg and have a big let down and lose, but they should in no way be a 6.5 pt dog to a team that made Kyle Orton look good. This should be a pick 'em game.

I will take 3-2 with three home games left against NY, DAL and PHI. But 4-1 would be so sweet!

3-2 is great most people had them pegged as 1-4 heading into the bye week.

If they can beat Philly this week, and go into the bye 4-1 would be awesome, especially with the Rams and Browns after the bye.

And now i know im definetly horny for zorny - the guy has great confidence and is an impressive playcaller thus far.

And the homage to George Allen and the Hip Hip Hooray in teh lockeroom afterwards was even better

[King Hippos Bandaid]

whew, way to get your kinks out in game 1 and shit the bed against the Giants


The NFC East is full of letdowns, I wouldn't be surprised (only if Westbrook is playing) to see the Eagles cover....

[Ogre]

I don't like how the media is warming up to the Skins. I like it better when they are overlooked. Please mediatypes, please o please, take the Skins lightly, drop them in your power rankings. A loss in Philly would not be a "letdown". A loss at home to to the Rams the following week would be the mindfuck.

HTTR

[Enabler]

I think the Redskins can shut down TO and Whitten. It will be a matter of getting pressure on Romo. That might be a problem considering the Dallas O Line are monsters. Defensively I think Moss and Cooley could cause some problems, but the O LIne needs to give Campbell time. Portis might have a better game with blitz pickups than yds from scrimmage. Redskins in an upset 27-24 on a late drive by Campbell. GW TD thrown to Yoder.

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I just read this post. Great analysis Ogre. I would obviously love to see the Skins win at Philly this weekend, but win or lose they really need to beat St.Louis, Cleveland and Detroit the following 3 weeks. I could easily see everyone in the NFC East going 3-3 against each other. The Redskins actually have an easy schedule outside the NFC East. They MUST beat the shitty teams.

[cougarjake13]

I just read this post. Great analysis Ogre. I would obviously love to see the Skins win at Philly this weekend, but win or lose they really need to beat St.Louis, Cleveland and Detroit the following 3 weeks. I could easily see everyone in the NFC East going 3-3 against each other. The Redskins actually have an easy schedule outside the NFC East. They MUST beat the shitty teams.



pretty much the whole division has an easy schedule outside of the division games

so unless some teams falter against lesser opponents it will come down to who can do better in the division

my guess is who ever can go 4-2 will take it

[PapaBear]

pretty much the whole division has an easy schedule outside of the division games

I think it's more than pretty much. They all play the same teams, don't they?

[Dirtybird12]

I don't like how the media is warming up to the Skins. I like it better when they are overlooked. Please mediatypes, please o please, take the Skins lightly, drop them in your power rankings. A loss in Philly would not be a "letdown". A loss at home to to the Rams the following week would be the mindfuck.

HTTR

Not one of the idiots on fox (terry, michael, howie , jimmy) picked the skins. They went so far as to laugh at the notion of the skins upsetting dallas in dallas. After the game, they were all praising the skins ..pretty funny

[cougarjake13]

I think it's more than pretty much. They all play the same teams, don't they?

cowboys giants redskins eagles

Browns yes yes yes
Packers no(vikings) no(lions) no(bears)
Bengals yes yes yes
Cardinals yes yes yes
Rams yes yes yes
Buccaneers no(panthers) no(saints) no(falcons)
49ers yes yes yes
Seahawks yes yes yes
Steelers yes yes yes
Ravens yes yes yes

[PapaBear]

cowboys giants redskins eagles

Browns yes yes yes
Packers no(vikings) no(lions) no(bears)
Bengals yes yes yes
Cardinals yes yes yes
Rams yes yes yes
Buccaneers no(panthers) no(saints) no(falcons)
49ers yes yes yes
Seahawks yes yes yes
Steelers yes yes yes
Ravens yes yes yes
That's weird. Is that new this year, or have I just never noticed that they don't play all the same teams?

[Enabler]

I think it's more than pretty much. They all play the same teams, don't they?

They all play the NFC East, West and AFC North.

The only differences:

Giants get--Carolina and Minnesota

Redskins get--New Orleans and Detroit

Dallas gets--Green bay and Tampa Bay

Philly gets--Atlanta and Chicago

[cougarjake13]

That's weird. Is that new this year, or have I just never noticed that they don't play all the same teams?



well they all play each other twice .....................6 games
the same 4 afc teams.......................................4 games
and then 4 nfc west(for 08only).........................4 games
teams in the other 2 div that finished in same place in div ....2 games


for a total of 16 games

each year it rotates for what div they play all 4 teams, like next year they will play all the nfc north teams i think

[Knowledged_one]

well they all play each other twice .....................6 games
the same 4 afc teams.......................................4 games
and then 4 nfc west(for 08only).........................4 games
teams in the other 2 div that finished in same place in div ....2 games


for a total of 16 games

each year it rotates for what div they play all 4 teams, like next year they will play all the nfc north teams i think

Nope they played the NFC north last year

Next year they play the NFC South and the AFC West

[Enabler]

I don't like how the media is warming up to the Skins. I like it better when they are overlooked. Please mediatypes, please o please, take the Skins lightly, drop them in your power rankings.

HTTR


I was watching Inside the NFL last night and shithead Collinsworth said that if the Redskins beat Philly this weekend, "They are the best team in the NFL." Is there any chance we can get a media blackout in DC?

[A.J.]

Is there any chance we can get a media blackout in DC?

God I wish.

[Knowledged_one]

Oh and i forgot F**k Jason LaConfora he sucks and i dont like him

Plus the great thing was hearing that weasel Colin Cowerherd to come on air and admit he was wrong about the redskins that makes me happy

And as far as the media coverage its not a bad thing, i dont think Zorn would allow it to get to their heads as well as some of the team leaders like London Fletcher, or most of the O-Line, or Rock Cartwright would let it happen

I dont see them getting complacent at all

Still Horny for Zorny

[cougarjake13]

i fucking hate colin cowherd


he's a pompous acting douche


how the hell did he get a national show ??

[Knowledged_one]

i fucking hate colin cowherd


he's a pompous acting douche


how the hell did he get a national show ??

He blows Mike and Mike

[Knowledged_one]

Well plan your trips now for 2009 everyone

2009
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Kansas City, NFC West (team with matching place in division)
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland, San Diego, NFC North (team with matching place in division)

and of course the division splits

Much more difficult sched next year in comparison to this year as of right now

[cougarjake13]

He blows Mike and Mike



another bunch of douches

[cougarjake13]

Well plan your trips now for 2009 everyone

2009
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Kansas City, NFC West (team with matching place in division)
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland, San Diego, NFC North (team with matching place in division)

and of course the division splits

Much more difficult sched next year in comparison to this year as of right now


yeh but not by much

san diego and maybe denver will be tough

[Ogre]

Well plan your trips now for 2009 everyone

2009
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Kansas City, NFC West (team with matching place in division)
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland, San Diego, NFC North (team with matching place in division)

and of course the division splits

Much more difficult sched next year in comparison to this year as of right now

Year to year in the NFL turns out not to mean as much as it used to..the NFC North and NFC West are weak year in year out in outside the divison/conference play. AFC West just as little as 3 seasons ago had Denver 13-3 KC 10-6 and SD 9-7 we wont count Oakland with thier perenniel 4 win seasons. That season the AFC west was a collective 8-8 for non conference play. That was the best that divisiion has done in the past 3 years. 2007 the NFC north (minus Green Bay's rediculously skewed record last year) was a collective 6-12 in NFC games outside the division. The NFC South will be the toughy out of this one I think.

As for 2008 wk 5. If Westbrook is near healthy the Eagles will try to spread the field and get to the corners on the Skins D. I think they will play the same type of D on Philly rolling the safety over top to keep everything in front of them (Deshaun Jackson). This will open up that juicy little 5-10 yd section in the middle of the skins D. Marvcus Washington got abused on coverage of Witten last week a couple of times. I think they wil try a faster LB to shade Westbrook this week. The Eagles really do not have a power running game, but the Screens and Swing passes make up for thet getting the RBs the ball in space. Proably one of the better RB screen teams in the NFL.

Offense I think you will see more of what you have been seeing. The Eagles run D is oppressive and the Eagles DBs are pretty good too. I think you will see alot of pressure on Campbell early on to disrupt his timing and tempo. Portis has had some success against the Eagles, but again expect Portis and Betts to contribute in the passing game (blitz pickup) than the rushing totals.

Close game but Philly is alot more desperate than the Skins at this point in the season. They need a division win to keep up.

Toss up game. Team who has the ball last wins on a FG. PS Akers has been unusually
scketchy from beyond 40 yds. Skins 24-23

HTTR

[Enabler]

Well plan your trips now for 2009 everyone

2009
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Kansas City, NFC West (team with matching place in division)
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland, San Diego, NFC North (team with matching place in division)

and of course the division splits

Much more difficult sched next year in comparison to this year as of right now



Im surprised they get New Orleans at home 2 years in a row but ok.

Looks like Westbrook will play tomorrow and Springs will not. No Jason Taylor, no Heyer, and a hurt M.Washington isnt good either. If the Skins can keep the no turnover streak going (knock wood) and win the field position game again they should win. Philly's desperation scares me though.

[Knowledged_one]

If anyone is interested in a Horny for Zorny T-Shirt let me know i know where they can be gotten at

Also I think with this game the skins are in a way free rolling after beating the cowboys last week. Many thought the skins would be 1-4 after the first 5 so they have already exceeded those expectations.

To be honest i dont see the skins winning this game, it may just be from years and years of watching them blow close games to the eagles ever since that jinx of a coach Norv Turner was hired, but i just see them losing this one in a close game like 26-23 with the eagles scoring on the last drive. I really hope im wrong though

Hail to the Redskins
Hail Victory

[Enabler]

http://cache.spreadshirt.com/image.php?type=image&partner_id=246572&product_id=3430081&img_id=1&size=huge&bgcolor_images=white


We win today and Im ordering this shirt. Its on misterirrelevant.com

HTTR!

[Enabler]

Wooo-Hoooo!!

[Knowledged_one]

These guys are legit my double reverse anti hippo jinx worked.
and i picked the skins final score

[cougarjake13]

http://cache.spreadshirt.com/image.php?type=image&partner_id=246572&product_id=3430081&img_id=1&size=huge&bgcolor_images=white


We win today and Im ordering this shirt. Its on misterirrelevant.com

HTTR!


somebodys getting a new shirt

[Ogre]

That was the most awesomest thing I have ever witnessed. 2-1 in road div games. Skins have put themselves in a very nice position in the Division. I don't think anyone saw this coming. I know I didn't. Phuck Philly.

HTTR:clap:

[Dingbat_Charlie]

That was the most awesomest thing I have ever witnessed. 2-1 in road div games. Skins have put themselves in a very nice position in the Division. I don't think anyone saw this coming. I know I didn't. Phuck Philly.

HTTR:clap:

that's the first time in a long while I've jumped around and yelled during a Skins game.

hey Ogre, how's business?

[Enabler]

somebodys getting a new shirt



My XXL is in the mail. Yeee Hah!!!!

[Dirtybird12]

I do like this coach. Sundays are fun again. The whole team is seriously clicking in a way I havent seen in many years. What is better than beating the Eagles in Philly and the Cowboys in Dallas?

For the second week in a row - those brilliant clowns on FOX, Terry & Howie and gang all picked the Skins to lose... Keep it up guys.:clap:

[Knowledged_one]

that's the first time in a long while I've jumped around and yelled during a Skins game.

hey Ogre, how's business?

I was the same way, i couldnt just sit down. I ended up cleaning my kitchen, my living room and did three loads of laundry

Let me ask you guys this: Do you feel the same way that if Joe Gibbs was the coach (and i give Gibbs a lot of credit for helping to get this thing started) that they would have punted at the end of the game and given up a TD drive to the Eagles to lose?

Zorn has shown that he is a great playcaller and it shows the good move that both Snyder and Cerrato did in picking this guy to be the head coach

[Enabler]

Let me ask you guys this: Do you feel the same way that if Joe Gibbs was the coach (and i give Gibbs a lot of credit for helping to get this thing started) that they would have punted at the end of the game and given up a TD drive to the Eagles to lose?




I see what you're saying but I think Coach Joe would have gone for it too. After the awful play on 3rd and 1, I was SCREAMING at my TV to go for it on 4th. They should have run that 4th down play on 3rd down and not even been in that situation. What Gibbs would NOT have done is play for points at the end of the first half. It was so great to see Zorn calling plays to get them in field goal range at least. And how HUGE was Shane Squeeze-em yesterday? Gibbs would have run the clock out and never attempted to score. Gibbs is still my hero though.

[Bossanova]

What the fuck was with Moss not getting any catches yesterday? He put up 0 pts as my flex. Thank fuck L.J. put up 0 against me

[Knowledged_one]

What the fuck was with Moss not getting any catches yesterday? He put up 0 pts as my flex. Thank fuck L.J. put up 0 against me

The Eagles were so worried about stopping him, that they decided not to cover Chris Cooley instead.

i think Moss going into yesterday had scored in like 8 straight games

[Bossanova]

The Eagles were so worried about stopping him, that they decided not to cover Chris Cooley instead.

i think Moss going into yesterday had scored in like 8 straight games

Yeah, he has been putting up numbers for me this year. Another reason i hate the Eagles. While losing the game, they fuck me and shut down the only Redskin i need

[Fezticle98]

The Eagles were so worried about stopping him, that they decided not to cover Chris Cooley instead.

i think Moss going into yesterday had scored in like 8 straight games

He didn't score in the Dallas game. That ended a streak of 6 straight games with a TD. He did have about 145 yards though.

Luckily, I didn't need any points from Moss this week. I was able to enjoy the Redskins win and not stress too much about that. Started D'Angelo Williams due to a bye week and Isaac Bruce came through again.

[Bossanova]

He didn't score in the Dallas game. That ended a streak of 6 straight games with a TD. He did have about 145 yards though.

Luckily, I didn't need any points from Moss this week. I was able to enjoy the Redskins win and not stress too much about that. Started D'Angelo Williams due to a bye week and Isaac Bruce came through again.

Yeah, Im still ahead with Housh and R. Moss, but Phillip Rivers killed me this week. Glad I sat McNabb though

[Ogre]

In his post game presser he stated:

On whether he ( McNabb ) is embarrassed with the loss: "I was embarrassed these last two weeks. I mean to two teams we shouldn't have lost to. When you make mistakes and you don't capitalize on opportunities things like this happen. There is no way that you can look at this game and say that, and not taking anything anyway from them, but there is no way that this team is better than us. The same went for last week and then you find yourself here wondering why. It's going to be a week in which you got to look at yourself and not look at anybody else. You have to ask yourself, 'Did you do the job?,' and sometimes you have to go through that process. It's better that you go through it now, but there's no reason for us to be going through that right now."

Get your momma to fetch you a can of Chunky Soup and a glass of shuthefuckup to wash it down. You think this will be on the BB come rematch time? oh yeah.

[cougarjake13]

i know everyone is on dallas jock right now but i think the skins are better than them, even without the skins victory over them

[Enabler]

When is the last time the Redskins were 13.5 point favorites? I have a feeling Rypien was at QB.

[Knowledged_one]

I dont know if this has been mentioned before but

1986 Giants win the Superbowl
1987 Redskins win the Superbowl

1991 Giants win the Superbowl
1992 Redskins win the Superbowl

2008 Giants win the Superbowl
2009 ??????

Lets just hope this trend continues

[cougarjake13]

I dont know if this has been mentioned before but

1986 Giants win the Superbowl
1987 Redskins win the Superbowl

1991 Giants win the Superbowl
1992 Redskins win the Superbowl

2008 Giants win the Superbowl
2009 ??????

Lets just hope this trend continues

it doesnt matter to us but the trend goes a lil farther, after the g men and redskins won theirs a nfc team won back to back

1986 Giants win the Superbowl
1987 Redskins win the Superbowl
1988 49ers win
1989 49ers win


1990 Giants win the Superbowl
1991 Redskins win the Superbowl
1992 cowboys win
1993 cowboys win

[Ogre]

you can't expect to turn the ball over that deep, that many times and expect to win. oh well, I guess before the press starts talkin 7-1 you need to get to 5-1 first. yyyyyeaaah.
I think everybody just needs to "stay medium"

HTTR

[Knowledged_one]

just did not look that great and stupid turnovers and Pete Kendall's failed turn at WR cost them this game.

Hopefully this re-directs their focus and not overlook their next opponent

At least Dallas lost

[Bossanova]

just did not look that great and stupid turnovers and Pete Kendall's failed turn at WR cost them this game.

Hopefully this re-directs their focus and not overlook their next opponent

At least Dallas lost

Just dropping in to say hi. Thats all, saw the Skins game yesterday, what a thrilling end.:wink:

[cougarjake13]

redskins may sign shaun alexander

[Enabler]

redskins may sign shaun alexander


I heard that too.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/shaun_alexander_coming_to_town.html


How can it hurt? Looks like an "NFC East Upset Weekend"
Blown opportunity, but not the end of the world.

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[Ogre]

I dont like that at all, however, the Skins have zero RBs on thier practice squad. Lookin kinda stupid for cutting Marcus Mason at the beginning of the season. He is now tucked away on the Ravens practice squad. The part I do not like is that when Betts comes back is he going to be #2 again ? Just don't like the puss Alexander:nono: He is the exact opposite of Portis or Betts. Alexander's trademark is slow to the hole pitty patter feet, all shuckin and jivin, while running for the sidelines. Portis might pick and choose his hole but he hits it hard when he goes and LIKES contact. Betts is even quicker to the hole. Bad things maaan....Bad things...

[Dirtybird12]

i blame the white players for screwing this game up.:thumbdown:

[Knowledged_one]

I dont like that at all, however, the Skins have zero RBs on thier practice squad. Lookin kinda stupid for cutting Marcus Mason at the beginning of the season. He is now tucked away on the Ravens practice squad. The part I do not like is that when Betts comes back is he going to be #2 again ? Just don't like the puss Alexander:nono: He is the exact opposite of Portis or Betts. Alexander's trademark is slow to the hole pitty patter feet, all shuckin and jivin, while running for the sidelines. Portis might pick and choose his hole but he hits it hard when he goes and LIKES contact. Betts is even quicker to the hole. Bad things maaan....Bad things...

The only positive is that Alexander knows the Redskins/Jim Zorn offense from his time in Seattle, so he can step in right away, and who knows if healthy he can be a good alternative to Portis on some plays. And lets face it Portis is going to carry the load no matter what its not like they are bringing in Alexander to be the starter

[Knowledged_one]

For everyone interested in either the: Horny for Zorny shirts, Hip Hip Hooray shirts or for the ladies Me So Zorny shirts you can find them here (btw this isnt my site or anything just a place to get cool shirts)

http://stores.colorworkspromotions.com/WJFK/THE-JUNKIE/

[Enabler]

I love this team. I cant help but be really excited. They are only a few plays away from being 7-0. Its insane. And the slow downward spiral that the Cowboys seem stuck in makes it that much sweeter. Theres a LONG way to go, but its been awhile since Ive felt like the Redskins can beat anybody they play. HTTR!

[cougarjake13]

looks like its gonna be back to the glory days of 81-91 where the jints and skins dominated the division

[Knowledged_one]

looks like its gonna be back to the glory days of 81-91 where the jints and skins dominated the division

Its still early but yeah it is looking that way. It should be telling that the Giants have some division games coming up that should be tough. That is the only thing about the redskins i like is that they have already played all of their road division games.

And after watching Hines Ward break Keith Rivers jaw last week, Giants and Redskins defensive players better have their head on a swivel

[cougarjake13]

Its still early but yeah it is looking that way. It should be telling that the Giants have some division games coming up that should be tough. That is the only thing about the redskins i like is that they have already played all of their road division games.

And after watching Hines Ward break Keith Rivers jaw last week, Giants and Redskins defensive players better have their head on a swivel


yeh and luckily for us(giants fans) the cowgirls are imploding before our very eyes
and the eagles just aren't much of a threat

which is a shame b/c much like the running back less dolphins of the marino days the eagles could have been a force these last few years with mcnabb if they had a decnt wr crew, and look what happeened the one year they did ( T.O.-super bowl)

[Knowledged_one]

Big win yesterday for the skins, even though they need to learn how to finish teams off and score TD's and not FG's

And people criticize the skins draft but once Devin Thomas gets the Offense down he will be the guy they can go to in the Red Zone in the end zone for jump balls instead of having to rely on the WR screen.

And skins fans you all need to vote for them in the NFL team vote off

[mendyweiss]

How Sick Was Moss Yesterday ?

[Knowledged_one]

How Sick Was Moss Yesterday ?

Bubonic plaque sick?

[cougarjake13]

Big win yesterday for the skins, even though they need to learn how to finish teams off and score TD's and not FG's

And people criticize the skins draft but once Devin Thomas gets the Offense down he will be the guy they can go to in the Red Zone in the end zone for jump balls instead of having to rely on the WR screen.

And skins fans you all need to vote for them in the NFL team vote off

theres not too many on this board i dont think

theres you, papabear, ogre ( i think)

anyone else ??

[PapaBear]

theres not too many on this board i dont think

theres you, papabear, ogre ( i think)

anyone else ??
I think Mikeyboy is a closet fan, and of course Dirtybird is a huge fan.

[Enabler]

theres not too many on this board i dont think

theres you, papabear, ogre ( i think)

anyone else ??


Ahem...:bye: Season Ticket Holder here. Section 421. (Yes, I drive from NJ 5-6 times a year)

I dont get this "vote-off" thing at all. Not very interested. It took for fucking ever to fill out the pro-bowl voting ballot.

[Fezticle98]

theres not too many on this board i dont think

theres you, papabear, ogre ( i think)

anyone else ??

My name is Fezticle (Todd Hillier) and I am a Skins fan. It has been almost 2 years since I last attended a game in person. However, I will do so in SF on Dec. 28 when I'm out there to visit my bro for Xmas.

I don't get the vote off thing either. Not that I have really checked into it. Does the loser get kicked out of the NFL? If so, so long Jaguars.

[RAAMONE]

i'm going to the steelers/redskins monday night game

how are redskins fans at games...probably be wearing my jersey...are they dicks?

i'm guessing there will be alot of steelers fans there also since its close

[Knowledged_one]

i'm going to the steelers/redskins monday night game

how are redskins fans at games...probably be wearing my jersey...are they dicks?

i'm guessing there will be alot of steelers fans there also since its close

They are fine with it you might get some good natured ribbing.

I just say this, when you go to Steelers games, I am sure you see people rooting for the opposing team who act like asses, and you probably dont like it. Dont be that guy at the skins game and there wont be a problem.

Dont be the guy who when the Steelers get a first down stand up and make the first down signal.

Dont get up in peoples faces if the Steelers score

Be a fan not a fanatic

[Knowledged_one]

guys the vote off is easy

just post once a day in it and say

+ redskins

- (your team of choice but i recommend some of the teams without support so we dont have an organized vote off against the redskins)

[Ogre]

I am glad that three game stretch is done. Folks that have followed the Skins know they have an uncanny knack for playing to the level of thier opponent. Up or down, the only squads that ever truly handled an opponent were the '83 and '91 teams. The '83 team was a juggarnaught until halftime of the NFC Championship game against the Niners. We all remember the fateful January evening in Tampa that followed. Damn you Jack Squirek.

Point is that now more than ever there is parity in the NFL and I do not think you will see one blowout win by this team all year as it compiles 11 wins this year. As close as this team was to 7-1 at the half post, it was equally as close to attaining a 3-5 mark. With the NFL season being 20+ games long is is somewhat of a dichotomy. One it is a long marathon that incredible late runs can propel a team into the post season. Two each game is so precious in it's result because there are only 16 that count towards the second season, with each divisional and conference game weighing in with such an impact they all seem like must wins.

When the Skins were 4-1, everyone in the media seemed to assume that the games against the Rams, Browns and Lions would be decided handily by the Redskins. Well it didn't turn out that way. However, I believe that the loss to the Rams was the wake-up call that this team required to remain just enough above average week in and week out.

Above average is what this league seems to be this year. Play B+ ball and you just might go places son. One nail-biter at a time this team will go 5-3 the rest of the season and will finish 11-5. I think anyone that says they saw this coming is a big LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. (see Fez Whatley on an unrelated movie bet).

Anyway I love my Redskins and invite anyone going to the Dallas game to my tailgate. If you are planning to attend please PM and we will hook up. Ribs, Suds and we will be playing cornhole (http://www.playcornhole.org/how.shtml) too. We will be there early as the game does not kick off till late.

Pittsburgh looks tough but if no Willie Parker and the D can generate some kind of rush on Rothleswaffle then I think they could be linited to 13 or so. Question is can the Skins muster 14 ?

As a side note I'd pay money to see ol' concrete loafers Big Ben on Dancing with the Stars. I had a welfare case lazy uncle that moved faster than him. Just Sayin'

[RAAMONE]

They are fine with it you might get some good natured ribbing.

I just say this, when you go to Steelers games, I am sure you see people rooting for the opposing team who act like asses, and you probably dont like it. Dont be that guy at the skins game and there wont be a problem.

Dont be the guy who when the Steelers get a first down stand up and make the first down signal.

Dont get up in peoples faces if the Steelers score

Be a fan not a fanatic

so i went to the game last night and it was awesome...the skins fans were really cool except for a few people getting in my face...i dont know if it was because there were sooo many steelers fans there but basically everyone was hangin out together

and you guys really take your tailgating seriously...the guys next to us had a grill the size of a car, satalite dishes with tvs in the bed of the pick up...a full bar, a dj spinning, couchs, a bon fire, fireworks

fun time

[Freakshow]

so i went to the game last night and it was awesome...the skins fans were really cool except for a few people getting in my face...i dont know if it was because there were sooo many steelers fans there but basically everyone was hangin out together

and you guys really take your tailgating seriously...the guys next to us had a grill the size of a car, satalite dishes with tvs in the bed of the pick up...a full bar, a dj spinning, couchs, a bon fire, fireworks

fun time


Well, when you have to leave at 7 am just to make a game on time you have to take adequate sustenance with you. And when you spend $40 (plus) just to park, you tend to want to get your money's worth from you time on that piece of rental property.

[NYHCmikeX]

Are you guys still allowed to show up to the parking lot and tailgate if you dont have tickets? Cause you need a ticket to tailgate at Giants Stadium this year, the cunts.

[cougarjake13]

Are you guys still allowed to show up to the parking lot and tailgate if you dont have tickets? Cause you need a ticket to tailgate at Giants Stadium this year, the cunts.

thats has to be b/c of the limited parking with the new stadium being built

[cougarjake13]

so i went to the game last night and it was awesome...the skins fans were really cool except for a few people getting in my face...i dont know if it was because there were sooo many steelers fans there but basically everyone was hangin out together

and you guys really take your tailgating seriously...the guys next to us had a grill the size of a car, satalite dishes with tvs in the bed of the pick up...a full bar, a dj spinning, couchs, a bon fire, fireworks

fun time


you never been to giants stadium then my friend

[Enabler]

I was at the game Monday and it may have been the most embarrasing game Ive ever been to. Not because of the way they played or the fact that we got our asses kicked on Monday Night Football, but simply because FedEx was LOADED with steeler fans. It was disgusting. WAY worse than Dallas games...which tend to have a lot of Cowboy fans in the house. I wish ownership could somehow ban season ticket holders from selling to opposing fans. It was truly ridiculous.

ps. The Steeler fan to my immediate left puked everywhere 5 mins into the first quarter and left a huge pile of vomit for me to sit next to for the duration of our whooping. Thanks anonymous Steeler fan who cant hold his booze.

[Enabler]

you never been to giants stadium then my friend


There is no contest whatsoever. FedEx Field has way better tailgating than Giants Stadium and not just because of the current construction. FedEx goes out of their way to encourage you to come early and tailgate and Ive stayed for hours after games and have never been hurried to leave. No contest.

[NYHCmikeX]

There is no contest whatsoever. FedEx Field has way better tailgating than Giants Stadium and not just because of the current construction. FedEx goes out of their way to encourage you to come early and tailgate and Ive stayed for hours after games and have never been hurried to leave. No contest.

I stayed at Giants stadium hours after games too, but it was sitting in the car, waiting in line to get out of that cluster fuck of a place (before the renovations too).

The no-tailgating without a ticket rule is probably because of the limited space, but if you want to get there early and get a spot to hang and grill and drink at, they should let you, without having to spend 85 bucks on a ticket.

[Fezticle98]

Redskins sign DeAngelo Hall to 1 year deal: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600

Good signing. Cheap and he can play nickelback with Shawn Springs perpetually injured. He will be just a small piece of an already solid defense and won't be asked to do too much with Smoot and Rogers already in place.

[Enabler]

Can he still return punts and kicks? If so, thats where the Skins need him most. Randle El has been awful and Santana pulled a hamstring on his big TD return the other week. Hopefull Hall can add a spark to the return game.

[Enabler]

Apologies. Im retarded. I was thinking of Dante Hall. Long day.

[cougarjake13]

Redskins sign DeAngelo Hall to 1 year deal: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600

Good signing. Cheap and he can play nickelback with Shawn Springs perpetually injured. He will be just a small piece of an already solid defense and won't be asked to do too much with Smoot and Rogers already in place.



for that kind of money he's worth the flyer, if being on a good team gets him playing good again it's a steal

[TonyStark]

Not a terrible signing and it lead to the waiving of Leigh Torrence, which was a great move in my opinion.

[cougarjake13]

Not a terrible signing and it lead to the waiving of Leigh Torrence, which was a great move in my opinion.



so if anything its addition by subtraction

[PapaBear]

ASSHOLE! (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.nflnotes12nov12002040,0,7848309.story)

"I called Joe Gibbs a coward for leaving," Arrington said in the interview. "You came in, you made some money for your NASCAR team. No one else is going to say that. I'm sure more people thought I was a [jerk] for saying that. Joe wouldn't call me because he knows."

Gibbs wasn't a coward. He did a decent job for a few years, then moved on, when he realized he had done all he could do. I hated Lavar when he left. Not that he left, but how he kept saying he was totally dedicated to the Skins when he was here. He talked like he wouldn't play at all, if he couldn't play for them. Then, as soon as he left, he said he always hated them.

[Aggie]

How are the Redskins underdogs at home? Just because Tony Homo is coming back? No respect for the Skins. :thumbdown:

[Landblast]

How are the Redskins underdogs at home? Just because Tony Homo is coming back? No respect for the Skins. :thumbdown:

your just jealous cause your ten times uglier than Jessica.
at least Romo doesn't look like he should be bagging your groceries.
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn331/AndromedaDrive/eliidiot.jpg

[Aggie]

your just jealous cause your ten times uglier than Jessica.
at least Romo doesn't look like he should be bagging your groceries.
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn331/AndromedaDrive/eliidiot.jpg

Do Jessica or Tony have a SB ring? Think not.

And where do you model Mr. GQ? Asshole.

[Landblast]

what is that little piece of costume jewelry your calling a avatar, you should be fucking embarrassed, the Cowboys got their 3rd like a million years ago and oh, they went ahead and picked up their 4th and 5th while you were growing up and coming up with your stupid posts

[Fezticle98]

How are the Redskins underdogs at home? Just because Tony Homo is coming back? No respect for the Skins. :thumbdown:

your just jealous cause your ten times uglier than Jessica.
at least Romo doesn't look like he should be bagging your groceries.
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn331/AndromedaDrive/eliidiot.jpg

Aggie looks pretty good to me. But then again, I'm not gay.

I was a little, maybe more than a little, surprised to see that the Redskins were home dogs to the Cowboys. Redskins haven't played well over their last 4, but the Cowboys have been worse...Romo or not.

[Freakshow]

ASSHOLE! (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.nflnotes12nov12002040,0,7848309.story)



Gibbs wasn't a coward. He did a decent job for a few years, then moved on, when he realized he had done all he could do. I hated Lavar when he left. Not that he left, but how he kept saying he was totally dedicated to the Skins when he was here. He talked like he wouldn't play at all, if he couldn't play for them. Then, as soon as he left, he said he always hated them.

I think LaVar means Gibbs didn't stand up to Dan Snyder and that made him a coward. I was always of the opinion that LaVar being 'benched' in his last season was from the top down, Snyder wanted to dump him for salary reasons, but couldn't because he was so popular.

The original article from the Times actually states that LaVar and Gregg Williams have no issues at all anymore. And Williams was his biggest critic during the whole ordeal. Now that he's not trying to inherit the HC job after Gibbs left he doesn't have to bow down to Sndyer.

I suggest you read the FULL arictle, which gives context to all the quotes. Sounds a little harsh in just sound bites. But the full article is very interesting. He says he still loves the team because of the fans, but not because of Sndyer...

[Landblast]

[QUOTE=Aggie looks pretty good to me. But then again, I'm not gay.

I was a little, maybe more than a little, surprised to see that the Redskins were home dogs to the Cowboys. Redskins haven't played well over their last 4, but the Cowboys have been worse...Romo or not.[/QUOTE]


dallas could and just might lose to the redskins, if dallas loses though 5-5 against redskins 7-3 is an embarrassment

[Aggie]

what is that little piece of costume jewelry your calling a avatar, you should be fucking embarrassed, the Cowboys got their 3rd like a million years ago and oh, they went ahead and picked up their 4th and 5th while you were growing up and coming up with your stupid posts

Yeah, and haven't won a playoff game in 12 years. Talk about embarassing.

Don't give me that bullshit.

NFL Championships:

NY Giants 7
Dallas Cowboys 5

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/general/champions.jsp

PS Thanks, Fezticle!

[disneyspy]

romo no homo,this is one of the two games i think the boys will lose the rest of the season but it wont be an embarassment cuz the skins and cowboys always play tough games and its in wash.thats ok cuz the boys will then make their run to the playoffs,my sig and avie depend on it

[Knowledged_one]

what is that little piece of costume jewelry your calling a avatar, you should be fucking embarrassed, the Cowboys got their 3rd like a million years ago and oh, they went ahead and picked up their 4th and 5th while you were growing up and coming up with your stupid posts

your life must be sad to have to have only the cowboys to live through and to then criticize aggies looks just makes you look that more pathetic i think disneyspy is even ashamed you are a fan of his team.

ps romo is overated

[disneyspy]

your life must be sad to have to have only the cowboys to live through and to then criticize aggies looks just makes you look that more pathetic i think disneyspy is even ashamed you are a fan of his team.

ps romo is overated

i agreed with everything but the last line

[Knowledged_one]

Skins are dogs because portis may not play

[Knowledged_one]

i agreed with everything but the last line
well i had to throw out a cheap zinger.
btw is witten playing

[disneyspy]

well i had to throw out a cheap zinger.
btw is witten playing

hes not on the IR list so im hopin so,they need all their offense to click cuz their defense hasnt jelled except for that TB game

[Landblast]

your life must be sad to have to have only the cowboys to live through and to then criticize aggies looks just makes you look that more pathetic i think disneyspy is even ashamed you are a fan of his team.

ps romo is overated

so you think i was criticizing her PHYSICAL appearance? anyone who says someone else's life is sad is,.....pretty much sad.

and by the way, overrated or underrated dosn't mean shit, it's what the media and the press want to cover, just look at the STATISTICS, you will be better off.

[Knowledged_one]

so you think i was criticizing her PHYSICAL appearance? anyone who says someone else's life is sad is,.....pretty much sad.

and by the way, overrated or underrated dosn't mean shit, it's what the media and the press want to cover, just look at the STATISTICS, you will be better off.

how about this stat no playoff win in 12 years is that a good one?
know go back to your hurting life

[disneyspy]

the only stat that matters- 5 superbowl trophys
they werent around when the giants won their first 4 championships
and with portis out and the boys crappy run defense bein their major liability you have to think they stand a good chance in this game
i stick to my prediction that the boys will lose two more games this season,but this wont be one of em

[RAAMONE]

your life must be sad to have to have only the cowboys to live through and to then criticize aggies looks just makes you look that more pathetic i think disneyspy is even ashamed you are a fan of his team.

ps romo is overated

romo is actually pretty good...just sayin

[Landblast]

if dallas drops 2 more this year i think it will be to Giants, Eagles, if they only drop two though, Pit and Balt will let us know if we'll make it pass yet again another first round.

[Aggie]

Thanks KO and disney. :wub:

All I asked was why the Skins were underdogs and this is what I get!

so you think i was criticizing her PHYSICAL appearance?

your just jealous cause your ten times uglier than Jessica.

You sound a lot more rational today. All I wanted was some good back and forth sports talk!

if dallas drops 2 more this year i think it will be to Giants, Eagles, if they only drop two though, Pit and Balt will let us know if we'll make it pass yet again another first round.

[cougarjake13]

hes not on the IR list so im hopin so,they need all their offense to click cuz their defense hasnt jelled except for that TB game

the offense didnt jell for that game either, that was more of a bucs loss then a cowboys win

[cougarjake13]

the only stat that matters- 5 superbowl trophys
they werent around when the giants won their first 4 championships




thats fucking retarded


thats like saying 20 of the yanks championships dont count cause the mets didnt exist until 1962


and its not the giants fault that they decided to change the way championships are won

[disneyspy]

thats fucking retarded


thats like saying 20 of the yanks championships dont count cause the mets didnt exist until 1962


and its not the giants fault that they decided to change the way championships are won

i sir have never fucked retardedly
good day

[cougarjake13]

i sir have never fucked retardedly
good day

maybe the one you were fucking was the retarded one :thumbup:

[Bossanova]

It must be nice to make fun of one only having three super bowl wins to their five. Shut the fuck up all of you. You have seen your teams win one. I will never. 1,2 5 who gives a shit? As of now the Cowboys suck thats the stat that matters. The Eagles have no titles and they currently suck. See, 5 titles tied for last with a team with none.

[disneyspy]

maybe the one you were fucking was the retarded one :thumbup:

well you get whatcha can get
and she was drunk
and stoned
and i think she tokes the ghb man

[disneyspy]

ya boss,the eagles are in the NFC EAST,wtf,their makin the rest of us look bad

[Bossanova]

ya boss,the eagles are in the NFC EAST,wtf,their makin the rest of us look bad

I do apologize for that. It must embarass all the other fans to have a non decorated team in their division

[cougarjake13]

well you get whatcha can get
and she was drunk
and stoned
and i think she tokes the ghb man



hey i aint condemning you for getting some strange


congrats :drunk::devil2::smoke:

[cougarjake13]

ya boss,the eagles are in the NFC EAST,wtf,their makin the rest of us look bad

I do apologize for that. It must embarass all the other fans to have a non decorated team in their division




yeh they took over the spot that was vacated by the cardinals who got moved out of our division

[Knowledged_one]

I do apologize for that. It must embarass all the other fans to have a non decorated team in their division
you know that seat i offered you on the skins bandwagon is still open

[Bossanova]

you know that seat i offered you on the skins bandwagon is still open

You are a kind friend and a gentleman, but I can not turn on my fuck stick of a team. No matter how much it will kill me

[cougarjake13]

you know that seat i offered you on the skins bandwagon is still open



so your asking him to be a jeremiah trotter ???

[Bossanova]

so your asking him to be a jeremiah trotter ???

Hold up. I get your reference but I will not let you do that to him. Trotter was cut and had no other options. The Skins gave him a deal, but I wanted to stay in Philly. He even cried when he lined up on the opening kick off because he felt he should be on the other side. He was no turn coat, he had to get a job with someone.

[cougarjake13]

Hold up. I get your reference but I will not let you do that to him. Trotter was cut and had no other options. The Skins gave him a deal, but I wanted to stay in Philly. He even cried when he lined up on the opening kick off because he felt he should be on the other side. He was no turn coat, he had to get a job with someone.

wasnt saying any of that at all


just the fact that he went from philly to wash

[Bossanova]

wasnt saying any of that at all


just the fact that he went from philly to wash

Oh, I know. I just didn't want people getting the idea he bailed on them. He was one of the few loyal guys left

[Ogre]

This is embarrasing. Online voting could vault as many as 20 Redskins into Pro Bowl (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/11/19/redskins.voting.ap/index.html) Especially since they forgot how to "stay medium", more like lukewarm.

[cougarjake13]

Oh, I know. I just didn't want people getting the idea he bailed on them. He was one of the few loyal guys left




nah

any true football fan knows the story

[Enabler]

Aw shit. NFL just moved the Skins @ Ravens game to 8:15PM. I like the flex schedule but not when it puts the Redskins on the main stage under the lights. I was worried about that game anyway, but now that is in primetime Im very worried.

[cougarjake13]

Aw shit. NFL just moved the Skins @ Ravens game to 8:15PM. I like the flex schedule but not when it puts the Redskins on the main stage under the lights. I was worried about that game anyway, but now that is in primetime Im very worried.


i thought for sure they'd move the giants skins game to the 815 this sunday

[Ogre]

Skins cut ol' "Softshoe Alex" (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/11/25/redskins.ap/index.html?eref=si_nfl) after just 5 games. Good. Beat it. Never liked him anyhoo.

[cougarjake13]

Skins cut ol' "Softshoe Alex" (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/11/25/redskins.ap/index.html?eref=si_nfl) after just 5 games. Good. Beat it. Never liked him anyhoo.

he was prob just insurance for portis injury so he wasnt long for being a skin

[Ogre]

he was prob just insurance for portis injury so he wasnt long for being a skin

Yeah I get you, at least they did not waste a 3rd rounder on him....see: T J Duckett. Still never got over that knee jerk move. That waste became the 3rd rounder for Denver which became Ryan Harris starting at O Tackle this year. Last time I looked Jansen was getting torched in pass protection. Forgive me for being cynical but the past "big name" free agent tomfoolery has shown a host of wash outs (see: Adam Archuletta) has beens (see: Bruce Smith) and never was (see: Brandon Lloyd). Not to mention fucksticks like Deion Sanders. Too bad Rodney Harrison is all washed up.:wink:

[cougarjake13]

Yeah I get you, at least they did not waste a 3rd rounder on him....see: T J Duckett. Still never got over that knee jerk move. That waste became the 3rd rounder for Denver which became Ryan Harris starting at O Tackle this year. Last time I looked Jansen was getting torched in pass protection. Forgive me for being cynical but the past "big name" free agent tomfoolery has shown a host of wash outs (see: Adam Archuletta) has beens (see: Bruce Smith) and never was (see: Brandon Lloyd). Not to mention fucksticks like Deion Sanders. Too bad Rodney Harrison is all washed up.:wink:



snyder has not made many very wise moves

most recent big name success has to be the portis trade, no ??

[Ogre]

snyder has not made many very wise moves

most recent big name success has to be the portis trade, no ??

Yes and that was Gibbs doing. His first and best move during JG redux . He got his stud running back, and solved the problem of the very poorly handled Champ Bailey contract negotiations. JG's second stroke of free agency genius was flying down to Jax to trade for a QB that they were ready to cut. Mark Brunell. Nice chap, noodle arm by the time the Skins inked him. That was the same year Shawn Springs and Cornelius Griffin signed.
In 2006 that was the bumper crop that brought us the Jitterbug ( Antwaan Randle EL ) the Skins paid him as though they were getting Kal-El. Lest we not forget the aforementioned Arch Deluxe and B. Lloyd, One had concrete loafers the other manos de piedra. Christian Fauria and Andre Carter. Fauria was 34 at the time and Carter is the only one who has come close to living up to his contract of $ 30 million and he is too small to close down the edges. In all $45 million in garunteed money for the 2006 class. :wallbash: 2007 brought in London Fletcher and brought back Fred Smoot so they actually good moves but as with Fletcher the Skins cannot resist big names sometimes. In 08 Jason Taylor was a throwback move to the days that brought you Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, Jeff George, Neon Deion, Jeff Hall, Chad Morton, Jeremiah Trotter (always liked him), and last but not least Trung Canidate we hardly knew ye. I just wish these guys would try and build through the draft especially in the interior line where true talent is hard to find and replace, see: Derrick Dockery.

If you would have told me at the beginning of the season that the Skins would be 7-4 at this point I would have been happy. This is a glass half full year but they need to think about the Portis window I think he has 3 good years left in him as hard as he runs. A pass rush would solve much of what ails theses Skins.

Oh yeah Happy Thanksgiving everybody !!!

[Kevin]

Comment.... Anyone??

[brettmojo]

Comment.... Anyone??
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5042/tojd3.gif

[Kevin]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5042/tojd3.gif

2 weeks my friend.. 2 WEEKS!

YOUR TURN!

[brettmojo]

2 weeks my friend.. 2 WEEKS!

YOUR TURN!
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5651/9506jz6.gif

[Tenbatsuzen]

Brett is slowly changing into my new favorite poster, he really is the antithesis of BDC.

[Kevin]

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5651/9506jz6.gif

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/goldberg.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/goldberg.jpg

Wanna know who else had a big ego and thought he was too important for his job?

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1106/nfl_g_burress_580.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Wanna know who else had a big ego and thought he was too important for his job?

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1106/nfl_g_burress_580.jpg



he still has as many rings as your fearless leader mr favre

[Kevin]

[QUOTE=Tenbatsuzen;1981110]Wanna know who else had a big ego and thought he was too important for his job?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DV70IsrzcpNAHM:http://media.charleston.net/img/photos/2007/10/26/Ralphus_t180.jpg ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

[QUOTE=Tenbatsuzen;1981110]Wanna know who else had a big ego and thought he was too important for his job?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DV70IsrzcpNAHM:http://media.charleston.net/img/photos/2007/10/26/Ralphus_t180.jpg ??

well played.


miss ralphus.

[brettmojo]

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/goldberg.jpg
http://91.121.132.199/gifs/8854.gif

Brett is slowly changing into my new favorite poster, he really is the antithesis of BDC.

Thanks. It's not too hard though, that guy sounded like a real dipstick.

[Ogre]

Comment.... Anyone??

Yeah the Giants look like a good bet to repeat as NFC Champs and have already TCB against the Stillers at Hienz. The only other team that matches up with them are the Flaming Thumbtacks and they will probably have AFC home field advantage locked up with 2 more wins.

Since Dec 02, 2007 the Giants are 18-3 with a Championship. Not much more to say there.

As for the Skins. The difference between these two teams was never more evident than on Sunday. Giants receivers came through when thier QB needed a play, the Redskins did not. The Giants controlled the line play from both sides of scrimmage.

They chose to go wideout in last year's draft, ignoring the interior of both sides of the ball. The Skins don't sack and are struggling in pass protection this season. The Redskins better hope Kelly, Thomas and Davis produce or they will set the franchise even father back than drafting this bumblefuck did.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/05/07/schuler.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Yeah the Giants look like a good bet to repeat as NFC Champs and have already TCB against the Stillers at Hienz. The only other team that matches up with them are the Flaming Thumbtacks and they will probably have AFC home field advantage locked up with 2 more wins.

Since Dec 02, 2007 the Giants are 18-3 with a Championship. Not much more to say there.

As for the Skins. The difference between these two teams was never more evident than on Sunday. Giants receivers came through when thier QB needed a play, the Redskins did not. The Giants controlled the line play from both sides of scrimmage.

They chose to go wideout in last year's draft, ignoring the interior of both sides of the ball. The Skins don't sack and are struggling in pass protection this season. The Redskins better hope Kelly, Thomas and Davis produce or they will set the franchise even father back than drafting this bumblefuck did.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/05/07/schuler.jpg


sometimes you get peyton manning and sometimes you get ryan leaf

[Enabler]

I know the Ravens D is outstanding but the Redskins offense is at rock bottom. How many times can you;

Run for 1-2yds on 1st
Run for 4-5yds on 2nd
Throw incomplete on 3rd
Punt

I mean, FUCK! Oh well. Landry just picked the ball so we'll see.

[Ogre]

I just know know you anymore.

[Enabler]

My god. Its hard coming up with new adjectives for bad. I just dont get it. Where do the Redskins go from here? Another new coach? Its almost tragic how they are wasting the careers of Portis and Campbell. Fuck everyone and everything. I hate the thought of a new coach but any time a team goes 6-2 in the firs half and 1-7 in the second half there must be changes. And yes, the Redskins will lose their last 2 games. FUCK!

[cougarjake13]

My god. Its hard coming up with new adjectives for bad. I just dont get it. Where do the Redskins go from here? Another new coach? Its almost tragic how they are wasting the careers of Portis and Campbell. Fuck everyone and everything. I hate the thought of a new coach but any time a team goes 6-2 in the firs half and 1-7 in the second half there must be changes. And yes, the Redskins will lose their last 2 games. FUCK!

unless you can get cowher i'd say stay with zorn


but the players, esp portis, may have more pull with snyder so its possible he's gone no matter what

[Fezticle98]

RIP Sammy Baugh.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Apr3qIE.LZU9eCgx1NGd3o05nYcB?slug=ap-obit-baugh&prov=ap&type=lgns

With apologies to Darrell Green and Art Monk and others worthy of consideration, probably the greatest Redskin ever.

[cougarjake13]

RIP Sammy Baugh.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Apr3qIE.LZU9eCgx1NGd3o05nYcB?slug=ap-obit-baugh&prov=ap&type=lgns

With apologies to Darrell Green and Art Monk and others worthy of consideration, probably the greatest Redskin ever.



greatest redskin ever is jay schroeder

[Enabler]

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I found this painfully spot-on and funny.

[El Mudo]

Yeah the Giants look like a good bet to repeat as NFC Champs and have already TCB against the Stillers at Hienz. The only other team that matches up with them are the Flaming Thumbtacks and they will probably have AFC home field advantage locked up with 2 more wins.

Since Dec 02, 2007 the Giants are 18-3 with a Championship. Not much more to say there.

As for the Skins. The difference between these two teams was never more evident than on Sunday. Giants receivers came through when thier QB needed a play, the Redskins did not. The Giants controlled the line play from both sides of scrimmage.

They chose to go wideout in last year's draft, ignoring the interior of both sides of the ball. The Skins don't sack and are struggling in pass protection this season. The Redskins better hope Kelly, Thomas and Davis produce or they will set the franchise even father back than drafting this bumblefuck did.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/05/07/schuler.jpg



My favourite Shuler story was after his long holdout as a rookie, he finally comes into camp, and just starts winging INTs all over the place. One of the linemen takes off his helmet, looks around and says something like "Fellas....we in trouble"

[Fezticle98]

greatest redskin ever is jay schroeder

He is the greatest Redskin I ever met in Hawaii when I was 6 years old.

But not the greatest Redskin I ever met in Hawaii: that would be Brian Mitchell, then Matt Turk, then Jay Schroeder.

At least they traded Schroeder for Big Jim Lachey. That was good for a Super Bowl.

[cougarjake13]

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I found this painfully spot-on and funny.


i loved when he kept going through the playoff scenarios

we all have done that

[scottinnj]

Fuck You Portis!

[Fezticle98]

It was nice to take a big shit on Philly's playoff parade.

Here's to hoping the Skins can deliver another win in SF and further silence the "fire Zorn" media hogwash.

Fire Cerrato, bitches!

[cougarjake13]

It was nice to take a big shit on Philly's playoff parade.

Here's to hoping the Skins can deliver another win in SF and further silence the "fire Zorn" media hogwash.

Fire Cerrato, bitches!



are skins eliminated from playoffs ??

[Fezticle98]

are skins eliminated from playoffs ??

Yes, the ATL victory eliminated them.

[Freakshow]

reports are Zorn will be back next year...

[CountryBob]

I too have anger when thinking of how MY team cant get their shit together AGAIN! With Santana, Cooley, Randle El, and the new rookie recievers - no body can get open when they need it? Unfucking believable.
Campbell was the talk of the football nation earlier in the year - no INT's - great passer rating etc. then the wheels fell off. What happened? Every game is so damn stressful - they cant get ahead enough to keep from losing in the 4th quarter -EVERY GAME! I get so pissed when they get in scoring position and screw around like they want to settle for another field goal. this has happened year after year after year. Is this the by product of trading draft picks away in free agency? Is the learning curve for our rookie recievers longer for players in the NFC East? i am so tired of being a die hard Redskins fan. Even though they are out of the playoffs i even went on Paltalk and watched the game in the Ron/Fez room. They are killing me and yet, I cant quit them. My sanity is hanging on by a cunt hair. Please David Snyder - make something happen - I dont know how many more years of mediocrity I can take!

[Fezticle98]

I too have anger when thinking of how MY team cant get their shit together AGAIN! With Santana, Cooley, Randle El, and the new rookie recievers - no body can get open when they need it? Unfucking believable.
Campbell was the talk of the football nation earlier in the year - no INT's - great passer rating etc. then the wheels fell off. What happened? Every game is so damn stressful - they cant get ahead enough to keep from losing in the 4th quarter -EVERY GAME! I get so pissed when they get in scoring position and screw around like they want to settle for another field goal. this has happened year after year after year. Is this the by product of trading draft picks away in free agency? Is the learning curve for our rookie recievers longer for players in the NFC East? i am so tired of being a die hard Redskins fan. Even though they are out of the playoffs i even went on Paltalk and watched the game in the Ron/Fez room. They are killing me and yet, I cant quit them. My sanity is hanging on by a cunt hair. Please David Snyder - make something happen - I dont know how many more years of mediocrity I can take!

I feel your pain. But it's Dan(iel) Snyder, not David.

Randle El is a #3 receiver that they paid big money to, and expect him to be a second receiver, even though he has never shown that ability. He is an atrocious punt returner.

Both rookie receivers started the year injured, so undoubtedly, the learning curve is longer. Time will tell if they were bad picks or not. Certainly not good picks for helping out here and now.

The draft has suffered with the build by free agency model adopted by Snyder and Cerrato. However, they saved their picks last year, and traded for some more. Definitely a smart change in course, as the free agency route wasn't working. However, Cerrato's talent evaluation abilities are highly questionable. Bobby Beathard or Charley Casserly, he is not.

The Redskins early success this year was a surprise. I think that the league has adjusted to Zorn's offense. The book on Campbell is blitz him, blitz him, blitz him. We need to have receivers that can make them pay, beyond just Moss, and an O-Line that can give Campbell just a little time to throw.

[Enabler]

Cerrato's talent evaluation abilities are highly questionable. Bobby Beathard or Charley Casserly, he is not.



Ya think? I believe they said it during the game last Sunday but Davis, Thomas and Kelly combined for 19 receptions and something like 275 yards all season. The Skins went after all of these guys expecting an immediate contribution. Meanwhile Philly got DeSean Jackson. I still have hope for all 3 of those rookies but they all had injured/pathetic rookie seasons.

In all honesty though, if the Redskins had managed to beat the Rams (2-13) or the Bengals (3-11-1) they would be in the playoffs. Those two losses were just unacceptable and devastating. If you look at the other teams the Redskins lost to (GiantsX2, Steelers, Ravens, Cowboys) you cant be too upset. I would not be shocked to see any of those teams win the superbowl. It would have been nice to at least compete in the losses to the good teams, but losing to 2 of the worst teams in football cost the Redskins the playoffs.

[cougarjake13]

The Redskins early success this year was a surprise. I think that the league has adjusted to Zorn's offense.


why ??

other than the cowboys and eagles back to wins on the road the rest of the early schedule was easy, that rams loss hurt


Wk Date Opponent Result Record

1 Thu Sep 4, 2008 @Giants L 7-16 0-1
2 Sun Sep 14, 2008 Saints W 29-24 1-1
3 Sun Sep 21, 2008 Cardinals W 24-17 2-1

4 Sun Sep 28, 2008 @Cowboys W 26-24 3-1
5 Sun Oct 5, 2008 @Eagles W 23-17 4-1
6 Sun Oct 12, 2008 Rams L 17-19 4-2

7 Sun Oct 19, 2008 Browns W 14-11 5-2
8 Sun Oct 26, 2008 @Lions W 25-17 6-2

[Fezticle98]

why ??

other than the cowboys and eagles back to wins on the road the rest of the early schedule was easy, that rams loss hurt


Wk Date Opponent Result Record

1 Thu Sep 4, 2008 @Giants L 7-16 0-1
2 Sun Sep 14, 2008 Saints W 29-24 1-1
3 Sun Sep 21, 2008 Cardinals W 24-17 2-1

4 Sun Sep 28, 2008 @Cowboys W 26-24 3-1
5 Sun Oct 5, 2008 @Eagles W 23-17 4-1
6 Sun Oct 12, 2008 Rams L 17-19 4-2

7 Sun Oct 19, 2008 Browns W 14-11 5-2
8 Sun Oct 26, 2008 @Lions W 25-17 6-2

Why was it a surprise? Or why did they adjust to Zorn's offense?

Zorn was a first year head coach. Never even a full-time play caller. To take a QB coach and thrust him into the head coaching position of a team that was lucky to make the playoffs the year before, not exactly a recipe for success. Plus Campbell was still a HUGE question mark, as he was injured when Collins lead them to the playoffs. What had Campbell proven before this season?

I live in Washington, and you could not find a serious prognosticator picking them better than 8-8 or 9-7 at the start of the season. After the Giants loss, I would dare say you couldn't find one that was saying above 6-10.

So, 6-2, with road wins over Dallas and Philly, and a win against a decently well-regarded Saints team, yes, I would consider that a surprise.

[Enabler]

Fuck Jason Taylor in his stupid fuckhole! I truly hate this guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-taylorreleased&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Knowledged_one]

A lot of mock drafts have them drafting the tackle from miss st

[Fezticle98]

Fuck Jason Taylor in his stupid fuckhole! I truly hate this guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-taylorreleased&prov=ap&type=lgns

I give a big "who cares" to Jason Taylor. It's probably good that they didn't bring him back. He made it clear where his priorities are, I can't get angry about that. No big loss.

A lot of mock drafts have them drafting the tackle from miss st

Are you talking about the guy from Ole Miss? Don't know if he will last that long. I think they have to go OT at this point, and there are a couple good ones out there. We'll just have to see if they are left at #13.

[Enabler]

I give a big "who cares" to Jason Taylor. It's probably good that they didn't bring him back. He made it clear where his priorities are, I can't get angry about that. No big loss.




Except those two wasted draft picks we traded to get him. Am I wrong here or did he basically turn down 8.5 million dollars because he didnt want to take part in 25 offseason practices? The man is pure scum. I guess Im just pissed because Bill Parcells was right again.

[Fezticle98]

Except those two wasted draft picks we traded to get him. Am I wrong here or did he basically turn down 8.5 million dollars because he didnt want to take part in 25 offseason practices? The man is pure scum. I guess Im just pissed because Bill Parcells was right again.

It was Cerrato and by extension, his handler Dan Snyder that agreed to give up those draft picks to trade for him. If you were so concerned with Taylor attending optional offseason workout sessions, maybe you should have asked to rewrite the contract before you signed him.

Just another case of the Cerrato-Snyder pact making a move in a vain attempt to save face. Remember when Cerrato cut Derrick Frost last season so that his draft pick punter could play? How did that work out? Way to buy into it. Now go out and get your Redskins credit card, so you can purchase your season tickets.

[Knowledged_one]

I give a big "who cares" to Jason Taylor. It's probably good that they didn't bring him back. He made it clear where his priorities are, I can't get angry about that. No big loss.



Are you talking about the guy from Ole Miss? Don't know if he will last that long. I think they have to go OT at this point, and there are a couple good ones out there. We'll just have to see if they are left at #13.

yeah i meant ole miss

[Knowledged_one]

It was Cerrato and by extension, his handler Dan Snyder that agreed to give up those draft picks to trade for him. If you were so concerned with Taylor attending optional offseason workout sessions, maybe you should have asked to rewrite the contract before you signed him.

Just another case of the Cerrato-Snyder pact making a move in a vain attempt to save face. Remember when Cerrato cut Derrick Frost last season so that his draft pick punter could play? How did that work out? Way to buy into it. Now go out and get your Redskins credit card, so you can purchase your season tickets.

the trade for taylor was only done because they lost two de's first day of practice.

and criticize snyder all you want but he is one of the few owners not to raise ticket prices even with the big signings this off season and in fact he has only raised ticket prices twice in ten years

[Dirtybird12]

Redskins Chris Cooley is rumored to be involved in a potential 3-team trade for Jay Cutler that would send Cooley to Cleveland. Cooley's response: "I would be pissed if I got my ass shipped to Cleveland."

Pretty sure this is just another internet rumor considering cooley's facebook status says: "not being traded" -

But ya never know with Washington

[cougarjake13]

Redskins Chris Cooley is rumored to be involved in a potential 3-team trade for Jay Cutler that would send Cooley to Cleveland. Cooley's response: "I would be pissed if I got my ass shipped to Cleveland."

Pretty sure this is just another internet rumor considering cooley's facebook status says: "not being traded" -

But ya never know with Washington

so does that mean cutler becomes a redskin or does he go to the 3rd team

[Knowledged_one]

Redskins give cooley and campbell to the browns and give denver laron landry they would get back scheffler cutler and a browns 3rd rd pick browns would send brady quinn to the broncs and browns get a 5th from den
i think its bs as the bromcos makd out better then all by far

[Enabler]

I really hope NONE of this happens.

[Dirtybird12]

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported the Washington Redskins are trying to land unhappy quarterback Jay Cutler from the Denver Broncos. According to the report, the rumored deal would also include the Kansas City Chiefs.

According to the report, Cutler would end up in Washington, Matt Cassel in Denver and Jason Campbell in Kansas City.

[Enabler]

Theyre not even worth starting a new thread. Fuck em. Worst shit Ive seen in 29 years of personal existence. Is it me or are their losses somehow worse than a loss? They lose with zero dignity. They were good when I was 11 fucking years old but in my entire adult life they have been worthless. Nearly every other NFL team has been relevant in that 18yr span. The skins have been perpetually mediocre....mediocre to awful.

FedEx is getting more and more empty and I can say with 100% certainty I will not be renewing my season tickets. Last week vs the Bucs the place was empty. Enough already. The Redskins suck. And the Redskins have sucked for 18 years. And the Redskins will continue to suck as long as Snyder is hiring people. Motherfuck!

Not that I thought the skins were going anywhere this year but watching this shit every week is painful. Especially when I live in the land of the fucking Giants. I want Zorn, Campbell and Snyder sent to Abu Grhaib immediately.

[Dell]

Theyre not even worth starting a new thread. Fuck em. Worst shit Ive seen in 29 years of personal existence. Is it me or are their losses somehow worse than a loss? They lose with zero dignity. They were good when I was 11 fucking years old but in my entire adult life they have been worthless. Nearly every other NFL team has been relevant in that 18yr span. The skins have been perpetually mediocre....mediocre to awful.

FedEx is getting more and more empty and I can say with 100% certainty I will not be renewing my season tickets. Last week vs the Bucs the place was empty. Enough already. The Redskins suck. And the Redskins have sucked for 18 years. And the Redskins will continue to suck as long as Snyder is hiring people. Motherfuck!

Not that I thought the skins were going anywhere this year but watching this shit every week is painful. Especially when I live in the land of the fucking Giants. I want Zorn, Campbell and Snyder sent to Abu Grhaib immediately.

the problem this year in a picture...

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/NateArchambault/files/2009/04/jason-campbell.jpg

quit calling timeouts and audibles when the play is a pass beyond five yards...I'm only going to one more game this year...Dallas...SURPRISE ME CAMPBELL...

[Enabler]

Totally agree. I defended that guy for 3 years but Im done. How long does he think he has to throw the fucking football? Especially with a patchwork o-line. Fucking hell! Great arm, great athlete but total retard when it comes to decision making.

[Dell]

Totally agree. I defended that guy for 3 years but Im done. How long does he think he has to throw the fucking football? Especially with a patchwork o-line. Fucking hell! Great arm, great athlete but total retard when it comes to decision making.

If he would just pass down field when they call it...complete or not it would spread the defense and enable Portis to run...I wish they would bench him next week...

[mendyweiss]

Suing season ticket holders who got roughed up in this economy and couldn't pay for their seats ? How do you fire an owner ?

[Enabler]

If he would just pass down field when they call it...complete or not it would spread the defense and enable Portis to run...I wish they would bench him next week...

Or maybe scramble when the downfield options arent there and keep the defense on their toes that way? How bout that? No, he'd rather dump it off to his fifth option and gain 5yds on a 3rd and 6. Fuck it. Bench him. Collins or Brennan could have gotten the skins to 2-3 anyway.

If theyre gonna suck then they should suck hard. Id almost prefer a 2-14 year to another 6-10 or 8-8 or 9-7. Its more embarassing to have talent and not know how to use it than it is to just utterly blow.

[Kevin]

Does KO seriously bash the Yankees and the Stienbrennrs, BUT like the Redskins and Danial Snider? Really? Snider is the Stienbrenners without the winning.

[Kevin]

Come to think of it, he is more like the Dolans.. Spend a ton, but don't know shit about your sport and hire terrible people to run it.

[TripleSkeet]

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/687/74152583.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/i/74152583.jpg/)

[Enabler]

that is awesome

[CountryBob]

I feel ya. I have been a fan my whole life of 38 years and I agree, it is just embarrasing. Even when they do win it is only by a few points - the other team is always able to win at the end of the game. I feel that they have the talent at almost every position but the ball does not get delivered. I wish they would have landed Cutler or even drafted Sanchez. I am so over Campbell. Fuck

[A.J.]

This is your problem right here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/images/redskins/1999/week1/snyder12_091299ap.jpg

[cougarjake13]

This is your problem right here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/images/redskins/1999/week1/snyder12_091299ap.jpg

times a million

[PapaBear]

The Jim Zorn stuff is the funniest part.

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[Ogre]

Flaccid...Simply Flaccid

[PapaBear]

Zorn hasn't been fired yet, but he's not calling the plays anymore.

Landover, MD (Sports Network) - Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn will not have playcalling duties, it was decided after the team's 14-6 loss to Kansas City on Sunday.
The decision was made after Zorn met with Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins' executive vice president of football operations, after the loss. Cerrato thought Zorn had too many responsibilities as head coach, and Zorn agreed with the decision.
The team is expected to decide on a new playcaller Monday.
The Redskins' offense has struggled this season, averaging just 13.2 points per game -- the fourth-worst amount in the NFL. Washington, which is 2-4, has accumulated that figure while playing mostly below-average teams, as each of the Redskins' opponents this season did not have a win at the time they played Washington.


I doubt it will make much difference.