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Furtherman

07-09-2008, 06:54 AM

Tarantino Prepping Bastards for an October Start
Source: The Hollywood Reporter July 9, 2008

Quentin Tarantino is once again teaming with The Weinstein Company as he readies Inglorious Bastards for an October shoot, says The Hollywood Reporter.

The writer/director is reteaming with the Weinsteins for his long-gestating World War II action tale about a Dirty Dozen-like group of soldiers behind enemy lines. The Weinstein Company will co-finance the film, distribute it domestically and oversee production and worldwide marketing.

Since the production will film in Europe and is looking toward an accelerated production schedule so that it can be finished in time to submit to May's Cannes Film Festival, the Weinsteins are looking to join forces with a major studio to come aboard to co-finance in exchange for foreign rights.

In related news, Deadline Hollywood Daily has learned that Tarantino is talking to Brad Pitt about playing a role in the film.

TheMojoPin

07-09-2008, 07:18 AM

The writer/director is reteaming with the Weinsteins for his long-gestating World War II action tale about a Dirty Dozen-like group of soldiers behind enemy lines.

Oh, look, another Tarantino "homage," this time to movies like The Dirty Dozen and Kelly's Heroes.

Look, I'm sure the movie will be a ton of fun and pretty damn good, but man, he sure has settled into a pretty obvious career path as a filmmaker.

Knowledged_one

07-09-2008, 07:50 AM

I remember reading an interview with Tarantino in Maxim like 6 years ago when he was talking about this movie. He even was talking about how he had a specific role planned for some actor/actress

I cant believe its been like 6 years to even announce this movie

KingGeno

11-10-2008, 05:36 AM

Ennio Morricone approached to score Tarantino's INGLORIOUS BASTARDS (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39041)

Then this news hit via an Italian site that was pretty immediately linked to by the Quentin Tarantino Archives, where Ennio Morricone has said that Tarantino has offered him the composing duties on INGLORIOUS BASTARDS (and I know the script has an E instead of an A, but damnit... the second A is what makes that word so fun for me, so I will not let go of it!).

Now, if Morricone (who turns 80 today by the way) announced he was scoring an episode of One Tree Hill I'd be celebrating. The man's a living legend. His MAN WITH NO NAME scores for Leone alone cemented his stature, standing shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Max Steiner, Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams. But also consider his amazing work on JOHN CARPENTER'S THE THING, one of the only films Carpenter himself didn't score.

The idea of Morricone doing this movie is exciting as hell for me, so I hope it pans out. I think it'd be incredible.

Excellent news! I also noticed that the guy at AICN suggested Ennio for the Dark Towers series. Also great.

MisterSmith

11-10-2008, 06:59 AM

Ennio Morricone approached to score Tarantino's INGLORIOUS BASTARDS (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39041)

Excellent news! I also noticed that the guy at AICN suggested Ennio for the Dark Towers series. Also great.

I really thought that Morricone was dead. I guess that counts as a double-dose of good news. :thumbup:

Furtherman

02-11-2009, 12:09 PM

Contra

02-11-2009, 12:21 PM

Finally!

TheMojoPin

02-11-2009, 01:46 PM

Meh.

That cast looks really bad.

Pitt sounds like a goofball.

I wish Tarantino would try growing up again.

razorboy

02-11-2009, 01:53 PM

Meh.

x2

RhinoinMN

02-11-2009, 01:55 PM

Haven't seen the trailer, but imdb says Mike Myers is in it?

AnnoyedGrunt

02-11-2009, 02:26 PM

I like the fact that B.J. Novak is in the cast. Fire Guy!

pennington

02-11-2009, 02:39 PM

Pitt sounds like a goofball.

Actors doing bad accents are incredibly distracting (think Richard Gere in The Jackel). Soldiers come from all states, why not have Pitt come from someplace where he can speak in his normal voice?

I'll probably wait to this comes out on DVD. Tarantino's movies lately are impossible to watch straight through in a theater.

GreatAmericanZero

02-11-2009, 03:11 PM

looks fucking great! I cant wait!

TheGameHHH

02-11-2009, 03:22 PM

As long as this isn't 6.5 hours long, ill see it in the theater.

burrben

02-11-2009, 05:14 PM

im excited

i wish there were a boner emoticon

stinkbud

02-11-2009, 07:32 PM

August 21.....oh yeah!

I love it when they give us a date to look forward to.

Quentin FTW

Snoogans

02-11-2009, 07:38 PM

Quentin Tarantino is once again teaming with The Weinstein Company .

Why the fuck would Quentin wanna be repped by a snake like Josh Weinstein

Slumbag

02-11-2009, 09:32 PM

I think it looks pretty badass. It's gonna be bloody as shit, so I think I can put up with Brad Pitt's awful accent for a couple of hours.
I like the fact that B.J. Novak is in the cast. Fire Guy!
I like that Eli Roth is in it swinging a bat.
Eli Roth is actually a better actor than a director/writer.

TheMojoPin

02-12-2009, 05:51 AM

I like that Eli Roth is in it swinging a bat.

It's like everything I hear about this movie is going out of its way to make me hate it even more before I see it.

badorties

02-12-2009, 06:02 AM

pretty much like the watchmen, i'm just hoping for a decent flick

GreatAmericanZero

02-12-2009, 01:29 PM

It's like everything I hear about this movie is going out of its way to make me hate it even more before I see it.

your loss. i have never been dissapointed by anything QT has directed, his talent has earned my trust

AnnoyedGrunt

02-12-2009, 01:41 PM

Eli Roth is actually a better actor than a director/writer.

So he's the Earth 2 Quentin Tarantino ?

TheMojoPin

02-12-2009, 02:08 PM

your loss. i have never been dissapointed by anything QT has directed, his talent has earned my trust

Neither have I, but he's establishing himself in a pretty predictable rut creatively speaking. Doesn't mean he can't make entertaining films...but also seems like most of the hype over him was misplaced. I thought he was a guy that could make a wide variety of films a la the Coen Brothers or Paul Thomas Anderson, but I that's clearly not the case.

TooLowBrow

02-12-2009, 02:30 PM

is this a comedy?

Mike Myers as Gen. Ed Fenech: A British "military mastermind" who provides a plot to kill Nazi leadership.

Eli Roth as Sgt. Donnie Donowitz:[23] "A baseball bat-swinging Nazi hunter" who is known as "The Bear Jew" among Nazis.[27] Some of them seem to believe that Donowitz is in fact, a vengeful golem. It is rumored that the role was originally conceived for Adam Sandler, who was in talks with Tarantino before declining due to schedule conflicts with the film Funny People.

Tarantino originally talked to Simon Pegg about playing Lt. Archie Hicox, but the actor had to drop out due to scheduling difficulties[42] having already agreed to appear in Spielberg´s Tintin adaptation.

grlNIN

02-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Is Tarantino going to have at least 3 conversations and up close shots of feet in this one too?

What the fuck is his problem.

EliSnow

02-13-2009, 07:55 AM

im excited

i wish there were a boner emoticon

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sex018.gif

GreatAmericanZero

02-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Is Tarantino going to have at least 3 conversations and up close shots of feet in this one too?

What the fuck is his problem.

for having conversations in his films? Yeah, god forbid

and as for the feet, it gives him a boner..whats the big deal?

is this a comedy?

Mike Myers as Gen. Ed Fenech: A British "military mastermind" who provides a plot to kill Nazi leadership.

Eli Roth as Sgt. Donnie Donowitz:[23] "A baseball bat-swinging Nazi hunter" who is known as "The Bear Jew" among Nazis.[27] Some of them seem to believe that Donowitz is in fact, a vengeful golem. It is rumored that the role was originally conceived for Adam Sandler, who was in talks with Tarantino before declining due to schedule conflicts with the film Funny People.

Tarantino originally talked to Simon Pegg about playing Lt. Archie Hicox, but the actor had to drop out due to scheduling difficulties[42] having already agreed to appear in Spielberg´s Tintin adaptation.

i think its just his creative casting. No doubt it will have a ton of dark humor in it...all his films have more genuine laughs in them than 90% of real comedies

hammersavage

02-13-2009, 01:31 PM

Can we change the title of this thread to the correct (incorrect) spelling? It's a pet peeve of mine right now.

Furtherman

02-13-2009, 01:35 PM

That's the way it was spelled when the story first broke!

And I can't edit it.

hammersavage

02-13-2009, 01:37 PM

Excuses excuses furtherman!

jetdog

02-13-2009, 01:40 PM

I have to admit I have mixed feelings abut this. On one hand, World War II movies have been some of the most amazingly told stories, cinematically and plot-wise, on the other hand maybe its time someone utilized the backdrop of WWII to offer a picture full of unrealistic, violent revenge-tainted actions.

grlNIN

02-13-2009, 01:41 PM

for having conversations in his films? Yeah, god forbid

and as for the feet, it gives him a boner..whats the big deal?

1.) I meant convos about feet, so shut your mouth.

2.) He's a pervert about it and he's becoming washed up.

Furtherman

02-13-2009, 01:42 PM

Excuses excuses furtherman!

Well as soon as Mikeyboy dies from that raw turkey I'll be editor in chief!!!

You'll see!!!

GreatAmericanZero

02-13-2009, 07:25 PM

2.) He's a pervert about it and he's becoming washed up.

if Woody Allen and Spike Lee can continuously get money for films that make no money, than QT shouldn't have a problem financing films for the rest of his lifetime, thats all i care about

and i don't mind him throwing feet in his film even though hes an obvious foot fetishist. If i was a film director, i'd put chicks doing things i think are hot in my movies too. I think its kinda cool

grlNIN

02-13-2009, 07:31 PM

GreatAmericanZero

02-13-2009, 07:36 PM

But they are feet! I don't think it would be las much as an annoyance if it was not obvious or like, i don't know he like zooms in on toenails and it's nasty.

He also uses "foot massage" context too much and he needs to stop trying to act.

We get it, you made the movie or know the guy who did, you can stop being a big giant, potato shaped ham now.

people have a weird reaction to feet...some find it the sexiest thing in the world, some find it the grossest thing in the world

me personally? i don't give a shit. I wouldnt think a good looking girl was any worse looking if she had nubs below her ankles and no feet. I don't get shoes either, wear tissue boxes on ur feet and it makes no difference to me

but when i watch his movies, i cheer at the foot stuff. its him indulging himself and i think its cool. When i was in college i took a class on Hitchcock and we had discussions about the films and his personal life and the relations..thats QT's films. its an extension on himself and i think the fact that he puts himself outthere...foot fetishist and all..makes him a true artist. When you watch a QT film you get a reflection on a person and you can't say that about most filmmakers. I don't even know the difference between most filmmakers, like McG and Brett Ratner..who knows?

Tenbatsuzen

02-13-2009, 07:38 PM

and i don't mind him throwing feet in his film even though hes an obvious foot fetishist. If i was a film director, i'd put chicks doing things i think are hot in my movies too. I think its kinda cool

If that's the case, I'd make Russ Meyer look like Fellini.

realmenhatelife

02-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Even if I didn't like Tarintino I like The Dirty Dozen enough to see any Dirty Dozen rip off. But this is tonally way different than I was expecting.

I really dont get his infatuation with Eli Roth, though.

TheMojoPin

02-13-2009, 09:32 PM

people have a weird reaction to feet...some find it the sexiest thing in the world, some find it the grossest thing in the world

me personally? i don't give a shit. I wouldnt think a good looking girl was any worse looking if she had nubs below her ankles and no feet. I don't get shoes either, wear tissue boxes on ur feet and it makes no difference to me

but when i watch his movies, i cheer at the foot stuff. its him indulging himself and i think its cool. When i was in college i took a class on Hitchcock and we had discussions about the films and his personal life and the relations..thats QT's films. its an extension on himself and i think the fact that he puts himself outthere...foot fetishist and all..makes him a true artist. When you watch a QT film you get a reflection on a person and you can't say that about most filmmakers. I don't even know the difference between most filmmakers, like McG and Brett Ratner..who knows?

Sadly, Tarantino's pretty fucking far from Hitchcock at this point.

I think the guy has an amazing eye when it coms to shooting films. His movies looks fantastic, but he just seems to be spinning in circles when it comes to the stories for his movies. I aways kind of brushed off the stories about how much of his scripts came from sources besides himself, but it's pretty hard to avoid at this point.

RD - Just a tweeked (and much better) version of City on Fire
PF - Co-written with Roger Avary
True Romance - Adapted from a Roger Avary script
JB - Adapted from an Elmore Leonard book
KB - Obvious homage to a bunch of different films
DP - Obvious homage to a bunch of different films
IB - Looks to be an obvious homage to a bunch of different films

Can Taratino actually write aything resembling an original script on his own? The ma is a talented writer with fantastic dialogue, but it's interesting how none of hi films are really based on anything that can truly be said is just his.

Everything is just an "homage" now. Half the script seems like a reference to some other film or a song or a book or something along those lines. There's nothing to the characters outside of kicking ass.

He's not making bad films, but maybe all the potential everyone thought he had just isn't there and he's just a big budget grindhouse director with a ear for dialogue. I'll enjoy the films on that level, hopefully, but I'm not really expecting anything great from him at this point.

Slumbag

02-13-2009, 09:35 PM

PF - Co-written with Roger Avery

From Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath_(film)
According to Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary, Black Sabbath was the inspiration for Pulp Fiction.

I think he tends to borrow shit, but he still makes a fantastic movie.
And I'm not a foot guy (As beautiful as Uma Thurman is, she has some gross feet), but think his foot thing is cool. It's his wierd thing, and it's something to look for in every movie.

GreatAmericanZero

02-14-2009, 03:44 AM

Sadly, Tarantino's pretty fucking far from Hitchcock at this point.

I think the guy has an amazing eye when it coms to shooting films. His movies looks fantastic, but he just seems to be spinning in circles when it comes to the stories for his movies. I aways kind of brushed off the stories about how much of his scripts came from sources besides himself, but it's pretty hard to avoid at this point.

RD - Just a tweeked (and much better) version of City on Fire
PF - Co-written with Roger Avary
True Romance - Adapted from a Roger Avary script
JB - Adapted from an Elmore Leonard book
KB - Obvious homage to a bunch of different films
DP - Obvious homage to a bunch of different films
IB - Looks to be an obvious homage to a bunch of different films

Can Taratino actually write aything resembling an original script on his own? The ma is a talented writer with fantastic dialogue, but it's interesting how none of hi films are really based on anything that can truly be said is just his.

Everything is just an "homage" now. Half the script seems like a reference to some other film or a song or a book or something along those lines. There's nothing to the characters outside of kicking ass.

He's not making bad films, but maybe all the potential everyone thought he had just isn't there and he's just a big budget grindhouse director with a ear for dialogue. I'll enjoy the films on that level, hopefully, but I'm not really expecting anything great from him at this point.

My point wasn't that QT is as great as Hitchcock, its that both of them make films that are extensions of themselves. You watch either and you study what it says about the filmmaker as a man....its a personal expression, which is something very few filmmakers have the privileged of having.

Didn't you once defend the use of samples in hip hip (i could be wrong, my messageboard memory is shit)? My take on QT is that he takes ideas here and there but what he does with them and when he puts it together he comes up with films that are more original than most of the movies out there.

My problem is that sooooooo many movies are just blatant ripoffs of other movies and it goes unnoticed but QT is always called out cuz he does the same thing with smaller movies. I watched "Blood Diamond" the other day, i've seen that same movie 100times just not in Africa. Any movie where there is a hostage situation always ends up being a "Dog Day Afternoon" ripoff. People are use to seeing the same thing over and over again and just brush off the ripoffs that go on in every movie so i have no problem saying QT is the most original and inventive filmmaker out there

TheMojoPin

02-14-2009, 08:04 AM

My point wasn't that QT is as great as Hitchcock, its that both of them make films that are extensions of themselves. You watch either and you study what it says about the filmmaker as a man....its a personal expression, which is something very few filmmakers have the privileged of having.

Didn't you once defend the use of samples in hip hip (i could be wrong, my messageboard memory is shit)? My take on QT is that he takes ideas here and there but what he does with them and when he puts it together he comes up with films that are more original than most of the movies out there.

My problem is that sooooooo many movies are just blatant ripoffs of other movies and it goes unnoticed but QT is always called out cuz he does the same thing with smaller movies. I watched "Blood Diamond" the other day, i've seen that same movie 100times just not in Africa. Any movie where there is a hostage situation always ends up being a "Dog Day Afternoon" ripoff. People are use to seeing the same thing over and over again and just brush off the ripoffs that go on in every movie so i have no problem saying QT is the most original and inventive filmmaker out there

I'm not attacking or condemning him for what he does...like I said, all it means is that I no longer expect greatness from him. I hope to still enjoy his films, but I'm not anticipating anything rising above the schlock he seems content to make at this point, and I think his inability to come up with an "original" script or idea is a huge part of that.

Gerald

02-14-2009, 09:26 AM

TheMojoPin

02-14-2009, 10:21 AM

It's a really bad teaser trailer.

I just hope it's not fully reflective of the film's actual quality.

The way I understand it, the crux of the story doesn't revolve that much around the Jew death squad as much as the advertising is letting on.

I just read the same thing. If the film is actually more like what I just heard, I could be (and hopefully am) completely wrong about it.

A.J.

02-14-2009, 11:02 AM

But they are feet! I don't think it would be las much as an annoyance if it was not obvious or like, i don't know he like zooms in on toenails and it's nasty.

Be my Valentine.

GreatAmericanZero

02-20-2009, 04:12 AM

c'mon, this isn't cool?

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/iibp.jpg

Trailerparkhero

02-20-2009, 04:23 AM

Has anyone seen the original? Its pretty good and all, by I swear it felt like I was watching an episode of The A-team.... with titties...

GreatAmericanZero

02-20-2009, 04:38 AM

Has anyone seen the original? Its pretty good and all, by I swear it felt like I was watching an episode of The A-team.... with titties...

they swear its not a remake, just a similar title

TheMojoPin

02-20-2009, 05:08 AM

Wink-wink. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgbSAL8OKY)

Dirtbag

02-20-2009, 05:38 AM

We all know that already. Doesn't change the fact that Reservoir Dogs is 100 times better than City on Fire.

mikeyboy

02-20-2009, 05:46 AM

Can we change the title of this thread to the correct (incorrect) spelling? It's a pet peeve of mine right now.

better?

TheMojoPin

02-20-2009, 11:23 AM

We all know that already. Doesn't change the fact that Reservoir Dogs is 100 times better than City on Fire.

I agree, but it also shows that claims that a film of his isn't some kind of adaptation when there's a really good chance that parts of it are could very easily be a crock of shit.

Furtherman

06-22-2009, 09:26 AM

booster11373

06-22-2009, 09:58 AM

Im looking forward to this.

I am curious about QT's use of music in his films, so far music especially obscure pop songs have been a big mainstay. I wonder how/if that will play out in this film.

Gerald

06-22-2009, 10:45 AM

The indications from the Cannes reviews suggest it's a dialogue-heavy film where Brad Pitt is merely a spoke in the wheel of a sprawling ensemble cast, but the marketing continues to suggest he occupies most of the screen time of an action-packed romp. I guess the Weinsteins can't be blamed since they're on the brink of bankruptcy and are in desperate need of a big opening weekend.

I don't know if there was even a glimpse of the actor who won Best Actor at Cannes in this new trailer. It might've behooved the marketing department to emphasis his participation since he reportedly steals the film.

Gerald

06-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Im looking forward to this.

I am curious about QT's use of music in his films, so far music especially obscure pop songs have been a big mainstay. I wonder how/if that will play out in this film.

I hear the soundtrack is David Bowie-intensive.

hammersavage

06-22-2009, 02:28 PM

That trailer is much better than the previous one. Looks different than I thought it would be.

grlNIN

06-22-2009, 02:32 PM

That trailer is much better than the previous one. Looks different than I thought it would be.

^

hammersavage

06-22-2009, 02:33 PM

TheMojoPin

06-22-2009, 03:40 PM

Definitely a better trailer, though Pitt's accent is still going to drive me insane. I hope he really does have as small a part as people are saying. The presence of Eli Roth is also an awful, awful thing. The sooner that hack goes away the better.

And I know it's a nitpick, but it bugs me when you see war movies where the soldiers have a full head of hair. It doesn't help that based on the previews so many of the Americans look like nondescript brunettes, too.

weekapaugjz

06-22-2009, 03:49 PM

I am very much looking forward to this movie.

Pestz4Evah

06-22-2009, 10:49 PM

El Mudo

06-23-2009, 07:49 AM

joeyballsack

06-23-2009, 08:06 AM

Contra

06-23-2009, 08:12 AM

A lot of American barber shops in Nazi occupied France?

TheMojoPin

06-23-2009, 08:31 AM

He sounds like he's doing a bad version of Dale Dye as Col. Robert Sink

It's obvious he's doing the accent for effect, but it's doubly annoying since Pitt is actually from the South himself.

TheMojoPin

06-23-2009, 08:34 AM

Its not uncommon for special ops groups to keep their hair longer than regular, conventional soldiers. It makes it easier for them to blend in if they have to mix in with the local populace.

True, though it seems they've got the hair when they're drafted into the special unit. That's very MASH-y.

grlNIN

06-23-2009, 08:37 AM

There is no way that that kid from Freaks & Geeks will ever be seen as a different character.

It just won't happen.

~Katja~

07-29-2009, 06:55 AM

I am excited to see Til Schweiger in this :wub:

Their accents are mocking the German accent and it is what makes it cringy and funny to me...

I like the International Trailer they have on the official movie site

http://www.inglouriousbasterds-movie.com/site.html

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Coach_Mac

07-29-2009, 09:14 AM

There is no way that that kid from Freaks & Geeks will ever be seen as a different character.

It just won't happen.

Yea, he's gonna be tough for me to swallow to but I think Ryan from The Office is going to do great.

I'm more excited about this movie than I've been in a long time.

Mikemantis

07-29-2009, 08:17 PM

Oh I can't wait shit is gonna be nice. I am sure u can never go wrong with Tarentino

Furtherman

08-18-2009, 06:53 AM

Bump! This weekend.

disneyspy

08-18-2009, 06:55 AM

Bump! This weekend.

already got my tickets! and ive never bought movie tickets in advance before

TheMojoPin

08-18-2009, 09:58 AM

Im hoping this is good but nothing is going to make me stop hating Eli Roth. What a smarmy, no-talent cocksucker.

Snoogans

08-18-2009, 10:34 AM

it looks like its gonna blow ass

hammersavage

08-21-2009, 11:48 AM

I don't think I've ever been so happy in a theater.

Just fantastic from beginning to end.

His best looking film. Can't wait to see it again.

biozombie

08-21-2009, 01:09 PM

Caught the 11:30 showing this morning, great fucking movie. The Avatar trailer looks amazingly gay, but the trailer for The Wolf Man looked pretty good.

Landblast

08-21-2009, 02:57 PM

Fantastic, the tension was genius. If I have time again this weekend I'll see it again. And Melanie Laurent is beautiful.

hammersavage

08-21-2009, 03:18 PM

Fantastic, the tension was genius. If I have time again this weekend I'll see it again. And Melanie Laurent is beautiful.

I will definitely see it again. Probably on Tuesday.

One of the best opening sequences ever.

Landblast

08-21-2009, 03:34 PM

One of the best opening sequences ever.

One of the best, the creeping tension only the way QT can do it, and he gathered some great actors too, i thought the opening the french homeowner was unbelievable.

IamFogHat

08-21-2009, 04:06 PM

I just got back, holy fucking shit. I'm so glad I read and heard nothing about this film going into it. I'm utterly speechless. If you haven't seen this stop whatever you are doing and go watch now.
Ok spoiler time How fucking amazing was the climax??? We were all rubes going into this thinking 'well he all know how Hitler died so it's gonna be weird how he ends this, maybe it'll just be bitter sweet,' and then the genius that is Tarantino uses that rube logic and turns it on our heads for the most breathtaking 5-10 minutes of film I've seen on screen in a long long time.
I also cannot wait to go back and see it again.

Thomas Merton

08-21-2009, 04:44 PM

it looks like its gonna blow ass

Wrong again, poser stoner

GreatAmericanZero

08-21-2009, 05:03 PM

ok, i took off from work and went to see it at 11:30am. Was in the theater, enjoying, we are in the climax..let me go into spoiler mode now...

so they are showing the propaganda film, its really tense, Shoshanna is changing reels to the 4th reel, marcel is behind the screen smoking a cigarette...you know somethings going to happen. its so tense, the bell rings signaling the 3rd reel to end and the 4th reel to begin...then the screen goes black and i hear alarms and "please evacuate the theater"...im like 'whoa...how did QT do this? is this some kind of 4-D theater experience????"

and u can feel everyone in the theater thought the same thing

anyway, nope..the fire alarm went off. we all had to leave at that moment. I was enraged. had to wait for the fire department and shit. When we got back to the seats they restarted the film and there was no sound. i left the theater and demanded my money back and free passes. the manager gave me my money back but no free passes so i called "National amusements" corporate line when i got him..bitched up a storm (and i never do that) and im getting some free passes in the mail now

so i went to another movie theater at 4:45. watched it again and it was awesome, saw the ending and it blew my mind and now i feel like i've had a great day

but within the first day of its release i've already pretty much seen it twice. I love it though, which i knew i would. i think some of the historical risks that were taken...only QT couldve pulled it off. They say the film is 2.5hours but i didnt feel it, i couldve used another hour...perhaps have us know the Basterds a bit more, I felt BJ Novak was a little underdeveloped and Mike Meyers cameo is still kinda confusing to me, but i loved it and the audience all seemed to love it and applauded afterwards and all that good stuff

oh and heres another thing..the last movie i saw that fucked up was "Burn After Reading", the last Brad PItt movie i saw in the movie theaters (saw it and then hurricane ike took out the power). Guess I have bad luck with Brad Pitt films

now enter predictable posters pointing out how long my post is

hammersavage

08-21-2009, 05:36 PM

not long enough

monkfish

08-21-2009, 05:37 PM

My wife and kids are away for the weekend - I'm so going to the first matinee for this sucker tomorrow.

led37zep

08-21-2009, 05:38 PM

not long enough

fucking Size Queen.

DH 215

08-21-2009, 08:01 PM

The only thing I disliked about it was Mike Meyers.

MIKEYDAKEN

08-21-2009, 08:09 PM

The only thing I disliked about it was Mike Meyers.

i thought his cameo was good. also the jew hunter could be the best movie bad guy in ten years

Willmore

08-21-2009, 08:46 PM

Brilliant movie.

Eli Roth is a waste of screen time, but everything else more than makes up for it. Colonel Landa makes this a fantastic film, instead of just entertaining. It's long, but unlike some other movies, it doesn't show it. The 5 acts are perfectly paced, you're never bored, you never question the decisions.

And the final scene is some of the most exquisite gore I've ever seen, and not out of place at all.

The theater was packed as well for the 3:30 showing, the prognosticators claim a 30 mil opening weekend, I think it can push 40, honestly.

Love, love, loved it. Right up there with Pulp and Dogs.

Willmore

08-21-2009, 08:52 PM

WampusCrandle

08-21-2009, 09:01 PM

By the way, anyone catch "The Road" trailer before the movie? I was so hoping they would not take it to this action-adventure place, and what the fuck is the wife doing in there? hint hint, she's supposed to be dead from the start of the book.

Chris Nolan's new film looks pretty cool though, nice Matrix feel to it.

when i saw it today, i didn't get "The Road" trailer. booo. i got a bunch of kid movie trailers and a michael myers movie trailer

Gerald

08-21-2009, 09:18 PM

I loved it, and I'm in the minority who hasn't loved anything Tarantino's done since Pulp. I went in trying to temper my expectations on the basis that they couldn't possibly live up to the RB hype and I was delighted to find that they were not only met but exceeded. The dialogue scenes were surgical in their precision and every role was perfectly cast. The war picture has been reinvented with this momentous release. Immediately after it was over I wanted to see it again. The film truly reaffirms Quentin's status as a once in a lifetime talent.

alexc

08-21-2009, 09:29 PM

that was just a fun movie to watch...
This movie went quick for me . i want to see it again.

CuntagiousChris

08-22-2009, 12:02 AM

Just got home from the theater...fuckin brilliant. I don't think I've ever been in another movie where people were laughing hysterically at murder and gore. I really hope its movie club time on mondays show

Reynolds

08-22-2009, 12:04 AM

Christoph Waltz fucking nailed every scene.

So many tense moments, it was great.

Only beef (which was probably my own fault) were all the subtitles, there was limited seating and I was in the front row, they spoke so fast, I couldn't read all the lines fast enough because I had to turn my head while reading the sentence.

GreatAmericanZero

08-22-2009, 05:55 AM

i gotta say, this movie is definitley staying with me. I think all night long i just had nightmares about Hans Landa. Giving the film time to breathe in my head...it is a film that, without a doubt, up there with his other films.

KnoxHarrington

08-22-2009, 06:04 AM

By the way, anyone catch "The Road" trailer before the movie? I was so hoping they would not take it to this action-adventure place, and what the fuck is the wife doing in there? hint hint, she's supposed to be dead from the start of the book.

Chris Nolan's new film looks pretty cool though, nice Matrix feel to it.

We do see the wife in flashback in the book (including a flashback to the night that whatever happened happened), but, yeah, the movie does look like they're greatly expanding her role.

pittphantoms

08-22-2009, 06:29 AM

I dont know what to spoiler or not... so I just put it all in there...

The opening scene is amazing. I was on the edge of my seat, and I think it alone is Oscar worthy.

The jew hunter and both women were extremely strong in this movie. QT writes so well for women...

My biggest problem with the movie is there were so many people - we didnt get adequate story on most of them. I have to wonder if there is some five hour master cut out there as I want to know more about a number of people... more importantly I would like to see more of the Basterds.

Finally, as wonderful as the last scene is - WHY ARENT THERE ANY GUARDS ANYWHERE? For Christ sakes - Hitler is in France and they don't have a couple guys at the back of the theater? No one in the lobby? Not a soul out front? This took me out of the movie unfortunately.

angrymissy

08-22-2009, 09:39 AM

By the way, anyone catch "The Road" trailer before the movie? I was so hoping they would not take it to this action-adventure place, and what the fuck is the wife doing in there? hint hint, she's supposed to be dead from the start of the book.

Chris Nolan's new film looks pretty cool though, nice Matrix feel to it.

Prob from the flashback parts where they talk about what she did. I heard they have made the movie much less dark than the book.

happytypinggirl

08-22-2009, 12:31 PM

absolutely loved it.

gaz's experience would have given me a damn near heart attack. as it was i was eyeing the exits.

i wasnt crazy about mike meyers appearance either, but hey, no big deal. just a tiny ripple (for me, im sure others loved it) in a great film.

i didnt get to see the trailer for the road, but i've long expected this to be a disaster and do zero justice to everything that made the story and the book great.

i expect it to suck. we'll see.

led37zep

08-22-2009, 01:06 PM

I'm going to check it out at 3:20pm West Coast time, very excited for this flick.

Dan G

08-22-2009, 01:30 PM

I loved this movie, but the 3 people I went with were turned off by the subtitles and length.

I heard one guy groan as the subtitles continued. A couple guys said it sucked after the movie ended.

I'm ready to see it again.

monkfish

08-22-2009, 01:36 PM

IamFogHat

08-22-2009, 01:45 PM

Dan G

08-22-2009, 01:49 PM

I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of things that I pick up in the second/third viewings....QT seemed to have some fun with the subtitles, selectively omitting some words and not translating some common French words into English, but showing the original French word in the subtitle.

Someone reported the translations of 'merci' as a goof on the film's IMDB page. :wallbash:

I went ahead and submitted a correction to that.

Gvac

08-22-2009, 03:34 PM

Leaving now. Have tickets for 8:45 showing.

I'll tell you all what to think of this movie when I get home tonight.

You're welcome.

thepaulo

08-22-2009, 03:53 PM

Leaving now. Have tickets for 8:45 showing.

I'll tell you all what to think of this movie when I get home tonight.

You're welcome.
I'm far more important than you.

Drunky McBetidont

08-22-2009, 04:13 PM

what a piece of shit. :furious: all you fan boys make me sick! snoogans is the only one with any smarts on here. i am following gaz and demanding a refund and free tix.

j/k. :tongue: it fucking rocks and i will see it again in a day or two. 10 popcorn buckets at least.

08-22-2009, 08:01 PM

simply outstanding.

I saw the 7:45 showing and what interested me also is the mix - a lot of people in their 60s/70s as well as people in their 20s.

On the way home I popped in Ronnie's QT interview, and damn I appreciate the interview even more now.

As was said, I expect some Oscar nominations here.

As for Mike Meyers, I had trepidations, but I think he was fine for that cameo.

TheGameHHH

08-22-2009, 08:12 PM

Just got back....loved it. People were actually clapping in the theater i was at (which is gay cause we aren't at Cannes).

IamFogHat

08-22-2009, 08:16 PM

TooLowBrow

08-22-2009, 08:18 PM

There's an RBI of QT??? Where????

http://ronbenningtoninterviews.com/quentinaudio.htm

hammersavage

08-22-2009, 10:36 PM

i wasnt crazy about mike meyers appearance either, but hey, no big deal. just a tiny ripple (for me, im sure others loved it) in a great film.

the only thing I have to say about it is that I was aware I was watching Mike Myers the entire time he was on. it didn't take me out of it necessarily. it might annoy me on further viewings.

kingofthething

08-23-2009, 12:28 AM

amazing film

i was in the theater with basically all tweens

i figured these kids were going to be turned off by the dialogue and subtitles

i was wrong

it got a lot of laughs and a thunderous applause at the end

GreatAmericanZero

08-23-2009, 10:32 AM

Someone reported the translations of 'merci' as a goof on the film's IMDB page. :wallbash:

I went ahead and submitted a correction to that.

the only other goof on the imdb page is

Factual errors: Col. Hans Landa claims the Bubonic Plague was caused by rats. However the plague was caused by fleas on the rats, not the rats themselves.

how is that a goof? It wasn't presented as factual. by that logic, i can say "its a goof that hans landa said jews look like rats" because jews look like humans. It was him using a persuasive technique to get info out of someone

holy shit is IMDb gay

Drunky McBetidont

08-23-2009, 10:41 AM

holy shit IM gay

:wink:

led37zep

08-23-2009, 11:25 AM

This movie was awesome.

-Led.

Contra

08-23-2009, 12:18 PM

Loved it! Very much!

barjockey

08-23-2009, 02:26 PM

Going right now. :clap:

Willmore

08-23-2009, 04:12 PM

By the way, did anyone else get a Miller's Crossing vibe during the last scene of the movie?

Drunky McBetidont

08-23-2009, 04:17 PM

By the way, did anyone else get a Miller's Crossing vibe during the last scene of the movie?

i got the feeling that qt and the cohens should work together on the next one.

when the jew hunter strangled the actress i couldn't help but think of http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/ncfom7.jpg

Drunky McBetidont

08-23-2009, 04:19 PM

fucking spoiler tags are for shit anymore:furious:

SP1!

08-23-2009, 05:17 PM

Great movie, people who shit on it just cant stand the lack of explosions, fuck em.

hammersavage

08-23-2009, 05:19 PM

Great movie, people who shit on it just cant stand the lack of explosions, fuck em.

I haven't heard anyone shit on it yet.

SP1!

08-23-2009, 05:27 PM

I haven't heard anyone shit on it yet.

Go read the people who saw it from fark and other film message boards saying it drug on too long and the dialogue scenes were boring.

I shouldnt let it bother me since these are the same people who defended Transformers and GI Joe, but it bugs me that kind of shit makes millions while better films make shit.

eh, I just need to be medicated

TooLowBrow

08-23-2009, 05:28 PM

I haven't heard anyone shit on it yet.

Simply another testament to his movie love. The problem is that by making the star attraction of his latest film a most delightful Nazi, one whose smooth talk is as lovingly presented as his murderous violence, Mr. Tarantino has polluted that love.

Manohla Dargis
New York Times

It's so hollow and protracted that it transforms mayhem into monotony.

Michael Sragow
Baltimore Sun

Inglourious Basterds is not boring, but it’s ridiculous and appallingly insensitive—a Louisville Slugger applied to the head of anyone who has ever taken the Nazis, the war, or the Resistance seriously.
David Denby
New Yorker

Tarantino spends nearly three hours insulting Jews, changing history to fit his own needs and doesn't listen enough to his editor, and for this, he's called a genius?

Fiore Mastracci
Outtakes With Fiore

There are some nice-ish performances but everything is just so boring. He should perhaps go back to making cheerfully inventive outrageous films like Kill Bill. Because Kill Adolf hasn't worked out.

Peter Bradshaw
Guardian [UK]

that last one is my favorite

"go make kill bill again!

i dont like new things!"

IamFogHat

08-23-2009, 05:33 PM

http://ronbenningtoninterviews.com/quentinaudio.htm

I'm pretty sure if god knew this exists he would have to say 'sorry, this is too much' and then the world would end.

Fez4PrezN2008

08-23-2009, 08:38 PM

Saw it this afternoon. Expected a packed house but half empty house ? It was awesome though. Only part that I had trouble suspending my disbelief was when he spoke Italian. Aldo would have been smarter than that. Definitely 9.5 popcorn bucket rating.

danner1515

08-24-2009, 03:22 AM

I saw it yesterday afternoon in a surprisingly full auditorium (for a Sunday afternoon anyway), and I thought it was great. It's easily the best movie I've seen this year.

denko

08-24-2009, 04:12 AM

i saw it last night and loved it. like to see it again soon.

realmenhatelife

08-24-2009, 04:26 AM

Did anyone hear the demure, British newsreader for the NPR news breaks this morning? They played the clip for the story about this being the top grossing movie this weekend, and she just starts doing an Aldo Raine impersonation over and over.

drjoek

08-24-2009, 05:15 AM

39 Mil
#1 for the week

CountryBob

08-24-2009, 05:30 AM

great flick - I love the tension that Tarentino creates with dialogue of certain scenes in this movie. My fav is the bar scene when they meet with the German actor chick.

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 06:09 AM

By the way, did anyone else get a Miller's Crossing vibe during the last scene of the movie?

Cause it was in the woods?

Saw it this afternoon. Expected a packed house but half empty house ?

I saw it at 7 on Saturday night to a less than half full room. I couldn't believe it. I got there 30 min early thinking it would be sold out. Of course, I do live in small town, MS.

Rediculously great movie!

jimmyolsenblues

08-24-2009, 06:14 AM

I was so happy with Inglorious Basterds.
Finally the ending to WW2 we wanted.
Brad Pitt's dialog about fighting in a basement and tickled to hear you say that cause watching him bash nazi's heads in is as close to a movie we get to see.
Using actual film to burn the nazi's is a ingenious only QT's idea.
Oscar winning performance by the 4 language speaking nazi interrigator, when he did fluent Italian it was amazing.
the opening scene where you think the nazi's are there to rape the daughters but really just jew hunting.
the opening scene where the strong farmer cries because he is broken down.
the bat scene.

Could be my favorite QT movie of all time.

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 06:21 AM

Oscar winning performance by the 4 language speaking nazi interrigator, when he did fluent Italian it was amazing.

He never spoke Italian. He was asking them questions in German, which they claimed to not understand, but were anwering him. That's why he kept repeating the questions.

Willmore

08-24-2009, 06:36 AM

Cause it was in the woods?

Basically, yes.

Willmore

08-24-2009, 06:37 AM

He never spoke Italian. He was asking them questions in German, which they claimed to not understand, but were anwering him. That's why he kept repeating the questions.

Really?

Fuck, I need to watch it again, I did not catch that.

That's even better than him speaking Italian.

When Landa did the reveal of why he was speaking English to the shepherd, I totally did not see it coming. I figured it was just the usual ploy of speaking English to an American audience that hates subtitles, but it actually made perfect sense and was so unbelievably smart and perfect for that character. Landa has to be one of the smartest written villains in the history of cinema.

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 06:39 AM

Really?

Fuck, I need to watch it again, I did not catch that.

That was what was so hilarious about it! And gave them away.

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 06:39 AM

He never spoke Italian. He was asking them questions in German, which they claimed to not understand, but were anwering him. That's why he kept repeating the questions.

Watch the movie again...he spoke quite a bit of Italian after that.

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 06:43 AM

Watch the movie again...he spoke quite a bit of Italian after that.

When?

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 06:47 AM

When?

After he asks them their names...and laughs at their responses...he then rambles off a long line of Italian. Trust me. I was just waiting for him to speak Italian with fluency so that when he did I couldn't help from laughing.

realmenhatelife

08-24-2009, 06:48 AM

When?

He definately did, but since he was switching between subtitled german and subtitled italian it might've been easy to miss. The whole conversation after Van Hammersmark says that the guys dont speak german, is in Italian.

Dan G

08-24-2009, 06:49 AM

He never spoke Italian. He was asking them questions in German, which they claimed to not understand, but were anwering him. That's why he kept repeating the questions.

No, you're wrong.

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 06:49 AM

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 07:05 AM

He definately did, but since he was switching between subtitled german and subtitled italian it might've been easy to miss. The whole conversation after Van Hammersmark says that the guys dont speak german, is in Italian.

Ok, but...
I could be wrong but remember when the 3rd Basterd, Ulmer told Aldo he doesn't speak any Italian (Aldo replied, "right, 3rd best"). Yet, he understood the questions Landa was asking him. That's why I assumed it was German he was speaking. And that's why Landa kept repeating his questions, to prove that they understood German well, not just a phrase or two.

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 07:07 AM

After he asks them their names...and laughs at their responses...he then rambles off a long line of Italian. Trust me. I was just waiting for him to speak Italian with fluency so that when he did I couldn't help from laughing.

Ok, so you're saying when he asked their names it was German but then he said something in Italian?

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 07:10 AM

Ok, so you're saying when he asked their names it was German but then he said something in Italian?

Correct.

Aggie

08-24-2009, 07:13 AM

Coach_Mac

08-24-2009, 07:14 AM

Correct.

Ok, gotcha, I definately missed that.

I can't wait to see this movie again!

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 07:16 AM

MetalAcorna

08-24-2009, 07:36 AM

I rarely go to the theater anymore but I had to go see this and I was thrilled I did. There were so many great things about it. I loved the subtitles, was never bored or wondering how long the movie was and as others said, wish it was longer. Obviously Landa was amazing but Shoshanna was my favorite.

http://www.hairfinder.com/celebrityhairstyles/melanie-laurent2.jpg

I totally agree with you. She was great but...

her character was really stupid in the end. I totally saw that coming with that guy...she should've shot that Nazi bastard dead and made sure of it!! lol

Dan G

08-24-2009, 07:39 AM

I totally agree with you. She was great but...

her character was really stupid in the end. I totally saw that coming with that guy...she should've shot that Nazi bastard dead and made sure of it!! lol

Wasn't it a suicide mission for her anyway? Marcel locked all of the doors and I don't remember her discussing an escape route with him.

MetalAcorna

08-24-2009, 07:42 AM

Wasn't it a suicide mission for her anyway? Marcel locked all of the doors and I don't remember her discussing an escape route with him.

Yes, but she could've stayed around longer to get her revenge in full by watching them all burn till the last minute instead of getting shot and dying when she did. That would've been better, I think.

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 07:43 AM

Wasn't it a suicide mission for her anyway? Marcel locked all of the doors and I don't remember her discussing an escape route with him.

Yep.

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 07:43 AM

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hammersavage

08-24-2009, 07:44 AM

Seaacresssstttt

JerseyRich

08-24-2009, 07:47 AM

Seaacresssstttt

OUT!

Aggie

08-24-2009, 07:54 AM

lol i missed you guys.

i agree metal acorna...that would have been better but just coming up with that plan and having the balls to do it was great, i loved her character overall.

SinA

08-24-2009, 07:58 AM

she had to die. the hero may live but the posse often dies. her laughing face in the smoke was a nod to her spirit seeing the nazis die. she was like obi wan... like a major character in another story that crosses into the story we're watching. marcel might have gotten out the back door, but i doubt it.

its funny that tarentino had us all in a movie theater watching people get burnt, bombed, and shot up in a movie theater.

Judge Smails

08-24-2009, 08:01 AM

her character was really stupid in the end. I totally saw that coming with that guy...she should've shot that Nazi bastard dead and made sure of it!! lol[/quote]

I liked it the way it was. You could see that she was feeling compassion for him. After everything she'd been through, and what they did to her family, she still felt sorry for this pain-in-the-ass kid who had the hots for her. She was actually showing her humanity in the face of the incredible cruelty that she felt a their "bootheels". But as Aldo told us: "The Nazi in't got no humanity."

MetalAcorna

08-24-2009, 08:06 AM

I liked it the way it was. You could see that she was feeling compassion for him. After everything she'd been through, and what they did to her family, she still felt sorry for this pain-in-the-ass kid who had the hots for her. She was actually showing her humanity in the face of the incredible cruelty that she felt a their "bootheels". But as Aldo told us: "The Nazi in't got no humanity."

They don't! That's why he hurt her when he still wasn't getting his way and why he shot her ass. I did like that she felt compassion for him too, but that should've been after she made sure to shoot him dead. I also liked how her laughing face was the last thing those Nazis saw before they died. :clap:

denko

08-24-2009, 08:14 AM

great flick - I love the tension that Tarentino creates with dialogue of certain scenes in this movie. My fav is the bar scene when they meet with the German actor chick.

i agree, and the way he does it, even with sub-titles and three different languages throughout the movie, was very impressive.

Dirtbag

08-24-2009, 12:19 PM

Do we really need the spoiler boxes anymore? Its Monday morning. If you haven't seen it yet go fuck yourself. :thumbup:

08-24-2009, 12:35 PM

she had to die. the hero may live but the posse often dies. her laughing face in the smoke was a nod to her spirit seeing the nazis die. she was like obi wan... like a major character in another story that crosses into the story we're watching. marcel might have gotten out the back door, but i doubt it.

it also goes to what Ronnie said to QT in the RBI- about people who did heroic things that the world will never know about.

08-24-2009, 12:52 PM

by the way, QT is now hosting XM47 Alt Nation now.

edit:
over now.

zentraed

08-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Wasn't it a suicide mission for her anyway? Marcel locked all of the doors and I don't remember her discussing an escape route with him.

I think only the auditorium doors were locked. The box seats and the projection room led straight to the main doors, so she should have been able to get out.

Dirtbag

08-24-2009, 04:07 PM

I think only the auditorium doors were locked. The box seats and the projection room led straight to the main doors, so she should have been able to get out.Her boyfriend seemed to have no intention of moving from behind the screen. I doubt just one of them planned on staying to die so I'd have to assume both were.

barjockey

08-24-2009, 06:50 PM

awesome i could've watched it again. 2nd best movie hitler

Dick Shawn #1

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes33/producers305.jpeg

underdog

08-26-2009, 08:30 AM

Finally saw it last night in a packed theater (on a Tuesday night). Because we're in Boston, every idiot in the audience clapped and cheered when the guy hit the Nazi with the bat and started yelling about Ted Williams.

I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was a little long and dragged just a bit at points, but the beginning and end of the movie were really fucking strong. I can't wait to go see it again.

TooLowBrow

08-26-2009, 02:51 PM

Judge Smails

08-26-2009, 04:57 PM

but the basterds had already been out fought in the basement bar,
they had lost important men,
and their double agent was wounded

so why did they risk their whole organization going after the theater when they obviously werent ready for a secret attack?
why not go for it another day, when they ARE ready?

Because Hitler was going to be there. That's an opportunity that comes along once in a lifetime (or, in reality, never in a lifetime).

epo

08-26-2009, 05:06 PM

i think i have a problem with inglourious basterds

the girl was ready, willing and able to blow up the theater

the turncoat nazi was as well

but the basterds had already been out fought in the basement bar,
they had lost important men,
and their double agent was wounded

so why did they risk their whole organization going after the theater when they obviously werent ready for a secret attack?
why not go for it another day, when they ARE ready?

The Basterds wouldn't have known about either situation and had a unique opportunity.

WampusCrandle

08-26-2009, 05:09 PM

i think i have a problem with inglourious basterds

the girl was ready, willing and able to blow up the theater

the turncoat nazi was as well

but the basterds had already been out fought in the basement bar,
they had lost important men,
and their double agent was wounded

so why did they risk their whole organization going after the theater when they obviously werent ready for a secret attack?
why not go for it another day, when they ARE ready?

i think the fact that the four big wigs of the nazi party, including hitler, were there, made it a "horse of a different color." they were gonna do it or die trying, which was obvious by the bombs strapped to their legs.

TooLowBrow

08-26-2009, 05:11 PM

Because Hitler was going to be there. That's an opportunity that comes along once in a lifetime (or, in reality, never in a lifetime).

not just hitler, but also gorbals, the jew hunter, and zoller were also important to kill

but after the bar fight they had to know that things were stacked against them so that theyd not only lose but also the 4 basterds who attempted it would also die

besides that the 2 other attempts to burn the place down were much simpler, show up in advance and set bombs or incendiary devices, place a timer or hide until its go time. ka boom
there was no reason for them to be 'undercover' in public at the premier

Landblast

08-26-2009, 05:19 PM

...that would have been better but just coming up with that plan and having the balls to do it was great, i loved her character overall.

I have visions of you playing that character and filling the theatre with all of us Cowboy fans and burning the theatre up! And you would have the Romo botched hold on a loop superimposed with you laughing behind the flames.

TheQuestion

08-26-2009, 05:26 PM

Has anyone mentioned that this film carries on the long standing Tarantino foot fetish tradition?

08-26-2009, 05:27 PM

not just hitler, but also gorbals, the jew hunter, and zoller were also important to kill

but after the bar fight they had to know that things were stacked against them so that theyd not only lose but also the 4 basterds who attempted it would also die

besides that the 2 other attempts to burn the place down were much simpler, show up in advance and set bombs or incendiary devices, place a timer or hide until its go time. ka boom
there was no reason for them to be 'undercover' in public at the premier

the jew hunter and zoller were irrelevent to the Basterds -
the biggies were the biggies of the Nazis - Hitler, Goebbels , maybe Hermann Goerring - maybe Martin Borman -
but remember Hammersmark told them it was all set as a 1 time chance.

08-26-2009, 05:28 PM

Has anyone mentioned that this film carries on the long standing Tarantino foot fetish tradition?

yes including Ronnie B.

TooLowBrow

08-26-2009, 05:31 PM

the jew hunter and zoeller were irrelevent to the Basterds -
the biggies were the biggies of the Nazis - Hitler, Goebbels - and I'm not sure of the other 2 but I think one was Martin Borman -
but remember Hammersmark told them it was all set as a 1 time chance.

it was a one time chance, but they had lost their undercover edge with the people who spoke italian dead,
the venue had been changed to a place they hadnt cased,
and their overall security was down after the bar fight.
even before they walked in the door, the jew hunter knew who they were and what they were there to do.
they wouldve been better to firebomb the place from outside, or call in an air strike

Shane Peterson

08-26-2009, 05:43 PM

How did the Jew Hunter know that it was Shoshanna running away? Didn't that family have multiple children?

Judge Smails

08-26-2009, 05:47 PM

How did the Jew Hunter know that it was Shoshanna running away? Didn't that family have multiple children?

The farmer said it was a dad, mom, uncle, son and daughter.

Judge Smails

08-26-2009, 05:50 PM

it was a one time chance, but they had lost their undercover edge with the people who spoke italian dead,
the venue had been changed to a place they hadnt cased,
and their overall security was down after the bar fight.
even before they walked in the door, the jew hunter knew who they were and what they were there to do.
they wouldve been better to firebomb the place from outside, or call in an air strike

You are aware that this was set in the 1940s, right?

I think our smart bomb technology still had a few kinks that needed to be worked out.

08-26-2009, 05:50 PM

The farmer said it was a dad, mom, uncle, son and daughter.
and remember the Jew Hunter already knew that, as well as their names.

08-26-2009, 05:52 PM

You are aware that this was set in the 1940s, right?

I think our smart bomb technology still had a few kinks that needed to be worked out.
well even though there weren't smart bombs, they did call in air strikes - however occupied france was not clear air space- so they would not have been able to necessarily get a strike done.

Judge Smails

08-26-2009, 05:57 PM

well even though there weren't smart bombs, they did call in air strikes - however occupied france was not clear air space- so they would not have been able to necessarily get a strike done.

That's what I meant. You would need a surgical strike along the lines of what we tried on Saddam Hussein at the outset of the Iraq War. I don't think that was possible back then. You would have to send a whole squadron of planes to carpetbomb the whole neighborhood. And once the Nazies saw a squadron of planes coming they would have whisked Hitler away.

Dirtbag

08-27-2009, 12:28 AM

well even though there weren't smart bombs, they did call in air strikes - however occupied france was not clear air space- so they would not have been able to necessarily get a strike done.
I wonder if the British/Americans knew that the entire Nazi high command was going to be crammed into a tiny little theater if they'd have done it anyway.

Aggie

08-27-2009, 06:20 AM

I have visions of you playing that character and filling the theatre with all of us Cowboy fans and burning the theatre up! And you would have the Romo botched hold on a loop superimposed with you laughing behind the flames.

:devil2: Dammit, my plan for when disney loses his bet to me again this year is foiled!

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 06:37 AM

I am still in awe of this movie. Wow was that fantastic!

I especially enjoyed the different German accents, for example Hitler got a bit of an austrian accent, Goebbels sounds like a Berlin accent, and I loved that I did not need to read all the subtitles :) and caught the hilarity of many of the german conversations that were not sub-titled at all.

The moment the guy ordered three shots I immediately said, oh boy, he just gave himself away...
They did an excellent job with all the little details that made the Germans german and the French french...

Loved Pitt and his American Italian, and his acting overall was fantastic.
Hans Landa is such a great character... god I don't even know where to start, it was mind blowing great from start to end.

Landblast

08-27-2009, 06:37 AM

:devil2: Dammit, my plan for when disney loses his bet to me again this year is foiled!

disney would be the cordial one in the theatre calmly saying,..there is plenty of time, please walk do not run to the exits...

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 06:40 AM

How did the Jew Hunter know that it was Shoshanna running away? Didn't that family have multiple children?
he met the three girls and they were differently dressed... and not blood drenched and dusty.
Also the Dreyfus family had 2 children, a boy who was 8-10 and a girl around 18. Only leaves Shoshanna to be the running one.

CountryBob

08-27-2009, 07:14 AM

What was the issue with the 3 shots? I missed the reasoning behind that give away.

Aggie

08-27-2009, 07:15 AM

What was the issue with the 3 shots? I missed the reasoning behind that give away.

If he was German he would have held up his thumb, pointer and middle finger but he did it the British/American way holding up pointer, middle and ring finger.

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 07:16 AM

What was the issue with the 3 shots? I missed the reasoning behind that give away.
Germans count from their thumb to the pinky, so showing the number three would be thumb, pointer and middle finger. british and americans use the three in the middle or count from the pinky up.

we even have kids rhymes that always start with the thumb, I teach Lukas that way and his dad showed him the other way around, poor kid is confused

hammersavage

08-27-2009, 07:17 AM

do you people eat with your feet too? soooo weird...

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 07:18 AM

do you people eat with your feet too? soooo weird...
yes and we have rhymes for that too

hammersavage

08-27-2009, 07:21 AM

that's really hot

CountryBob

08-27-2009, 07:55 AM

Germans count from their thumb to the pinky, so showing the number three would be thumb, pointer and middle finger. british and americans use the three in the middle or count from the pinky up.

we even have kids rhymes that always start with the thumb, I teach Lukas that way and his dad showed him the other way around, poor kid is confused

If he was German he would have held up his thumb, pointer and middle finger but he did it the British/American way holding up pointer, middle and ring finger.

That whole scene was fuckin awesome anyway - I had some trouble with all of the flipping around of different languages and different subtitles. Maybe should have not smoked before going.
Thanks - this someday may save my life.

Shane Peterson

08-27-2009, 09:06 AM

he met the three girls and they were differently dressed... and not blood drenched and dusty.
Also the Dreyfus family had 2 children, a boy who was 8-10 and a girl around 18. Only leaves Shoshanna to be the running one.

Ah I see. Something I'm sure I'd catch the second time around. I just heard a bunch of names, and expected all of them to die so I didn't pay any mind to it.

Shane Peterson

08-27-2009, 09:12 AM

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 09:23 AM

Ah I see. Something I'm sure I'd catch the second time around. I just heard a bunch of names, and expected all of them to die so I didn't pay any mind to it.
there were 5 Dreyfuses, Mother, Father, Brother (about 30) + kids: boy (8) & girl (18)

08-27-2009, 09:50 AM

I especially enjoyed the different German accents, for example Hitler got a bit of an austrian accent, Goebbels sounds like a Berlin accent, and I loved that I did not need to read all the subtitles :) and caught the hilarity of many of the german conversations that were not sub-titled at all.

I was wondering about that (if they really used different accents) - esp since that was part of that scene as well.

~Katja~

08-27-2009, 12:22 PM

I was wondering about that (if they really used different accents) - esp since that was part of that scene as well.
they absolutely did, and that scene specifically made clear why and how important it was to the movie.

I do think that that is the scene where one for the first time wonders how much time of the movie has passed and for a second questions why they go into that same game yet again, but it all makes sense, nobody trusts nobody and is suspicious about the others identity in the bar, down to the owner who speaks multiple languages. i also did not expect William to be killed by the actress but rather by the basterds in some way.

BTW, I just realized that Melanie Laurent is not just an actress but also a french director
and writer.

Crispy123

08-28-2009, 03:28 PM

going to see this tonight!

fezident

08-28-2009, 06:18 PM

This movie was simply not for me. (although I truly do love QT and all his work)

I almost feel like I watched a different movie than you guys. It was just too slow for me. There just wasn't enough momentum IMO. I hear stories about people "laughing uncontrollably during that final massacre".... and "leaving the theater on a high"... and "can't remember being more entertained". That wasn't my experience.

I think ESD said he felt like doing hand stands in the lobby after he'd seen it.
Strange. I love QT as much as Dave.... and yet... this film just didn't get my blood pumping. I didn't connect with it.

Having said that, I loved every minute of every scene featuring Christop Waltz.

For what it's worth... I am gonna see it again. I feel like I owe it to QT. Like... in a way... I'm not "allowed" to hate one of his movies. I fuckin' live in his universe. Love all his movies. Memorized. Part of my DNA. And yet.... INGLORIOUS BASTERDS did nothing for me.

PS...
for those that are interested... ADAM CAROLLA did an amazing interview with Christop Waltz the other day. Long form. Really good stuff.
Enjoy.

http://www.adamcarolla.com/ACPBlog/podcasts/

http://podcast.931jackfm.com/kcbs2/1916007.mp3

08-28-2009, 06:24 PM

fezident

08-28-2009, 06:35 PM

Right on. I got that.
I listened to the RBI the other day too.

When DEATHPROOF came out, I raved about it. Certain people (whose opinons I respect) I know truly hated it. They thought it was too slow. Too wordy. Too "written". But I really enjoyed DEATHPROOF. I saw it twice in the theater and bought the DVD. When it comes to Tarantino... that's what I do. I don't have to TRY to love his movies, it's automatic. He's transmitting on my frequency for sure.

So why did I leave the theater so disappointed this time? I dunno. Like I said... this one just wasn't my movie. I'm bummed though. I was anxious to love this one the way I loved KILL BILL and/or DOGS.

Crispy123

08-28-2009, 10:37 PM

This movie was long and extremely awesome! Tarrantino's best since Pulp Fiction. The Gestapo Mutherfucker was the best. Brad Pitt was great, he reminded me of this drill instructor I had in boot camp. Unbelievable hotties as the geram and the jew. The ending was perfect, overall a brilliant movie.

Did anyone else picture Ron as the cigar smokin Churchill dude in the Tux that greenlighted project Kino?

drusilla

08-29-2009, 05:37 AM

i saw it last night & i'm still in awe. the entire theater scene had me on the edge of my seat with my heart thumping. i just sat there in complete amazement of what i was watching. i almost had tears in my eyes because it was so thrilling & so beautiful at the same time.

i'm just in complete awe of this movie. i think it's the best thing he's ever done.

i wonder how many oscar's it's going to get since the jews run hollywood.

drusilla

08-29-2009, 08:23 AM

oh a lot of people applauded when it was over too

underdog

08-29-2009, 08:38 AM

oh a lot of people applauded when it was over too

Yeah, that happened at my theater, too.

~Katja~

08-29-2009, 08:43 AM

oh a lot of people applauded when it was over too
I did... and a few others, so I did not feel so weird about it :)

Gvac

08-29-2009, 08:44 AM

That's not how Hitler really died.

The whole movie is fake.

Judge Smails

08-29-2009, 08:48 AM

That's not how Hitler really died.

The whole movie is fake.

That's a BINGO!

http://i29.tinypic.com/2itszli.jpg

WampusCrandle

08-29-2009, 08:48 AM

That's not how Hitler really died.

The whole movie is fake.

are you sure? you should check the big fact book of life ... i'm prett sure it happened EXACTLY the way it did in the movie.

~Katja~

08-29-2009, 08:50 AM

That's a BINGO!

http://i29.tinypic.com/2itszli.jpg

:clap: :clap:

Shane Peterson

08-29-2009, 09:46 AM

this was one of the most entertaining movies I have seen in a long time.

grlNIN

08-29-2009, 06:23 PM

It was really good but not his best ever and i am thinking people are reacting as if it's a masterpiece based off of how dumb & uninspiring Death Proof turned out to be. I honestly don't think anything he has done will ever touch Pulp Fiction, at least for me.

I also didn't like the way he used scored music that we've heard in Kill Bill for this, it really took me out of the movie in terms of the time period.I think the Bowie song might have the potential to confuse those who are either not avid Bowie or Tarantino fans.

I didn't think the entrance to the theater scene was that tense either, it made me dizzy how he spun the camera around so fast. However, the Hans and Bridget scene was so fucking good.

EddieMoscone

08-29-2009, 06:42 PM

Just got back from seeing the flick. I thought it was FANTASTIC. The story, the dialog, the tension...it all worked for me in a big way. I'm usually the type of guy where hype will turn me off and make it harder for me to enjoy a flick, but to me it lived up to the hype, even though is seemed like I enjoyed it for different reasons then my friends.

disneyspy

08-30-2009, 03:47 PM

:devil2: Dammit, my plan for when disney loses his bet to me again this year is foiled!

oh you are evil

Foster

08-30-2009, 05:20 PM

just got back from seeing it,

found it a little disappointing, maybe because of all the hype.

It was still worth going to see, but I wouldn't say it was great

JerseyRich

08-30-2009, 05:22 PM

just got back from seeing it,

found it a little disappointing, maybe because of all the hype.

It was still worth going to see, but I wouldn't say it was great

After seeing Blind Man Drive last night, who can blame you for being disappointed with other forms of entertainment.

Foster

08-31-2009, 01:51 AM

After seeing Blind Man Drive last night, who can blame you for being disappointed with other forms of entertainment.

yeah, that must be it:unsure:

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 04:22 AM

just got back from seeing it,

found it a little disappointing, maybe because of all the hype.

It was still worth going to see, but I wouldn't say it was great

see it again. there are so many, hidden, subtle references that enhance the film, that it's worth a second, third look. it's chock full of golden nuggets of humor and activity away from the main focus of each scene.

not to sound too much like film school 101, but the guy constantly references old movies, music, and ironic humor in his films. in "basterds", he pays homage to war movies as well as morricone's musical work, and many others.

you need to have seen a lot of old movies to get a lot of this. not a shot at you, just a comment. i'm sure paulo-o could list all of the movie references in this film.

i could sit there and listen to his dialogue for hours. this guy trusts his audience to hang in there and let him build a plot and character development. the opening scene is a perfect example. the sheer terror QT creates by the nazi's folksy, pleasant, yet lethal manner is a perfect example. i can't get enough of this film.

it's just sad that these gems come a long so seldom. in a world of "transformers" and "halloween" dreck, "basterds" is a refreshing alternative.

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 04:24 AM

:clap: :clap:

judge smails, or whoever did the bingo photo: well done! it's stuff like this that makes this site "the best thing goin....ta-day!"

Foster's Blackberry

08-31-2009, 04:49 AM

see it again. there are so many, hidden, subtle references that enhance the film, that it's worth a second, third look. it's chock full of golden nuggets of humor and activity away from the main focus of each scene.

not to sound too much like film school 101, but the guy constantly references old movies, music, and ironic humor in his films. in "basterds", he pays homage to war movies as well as morricone's musical work, and many others.

you need to have seen a lot of old movies to get a lot of this. not a shot at you, just a comment. i'm sure paulo-o could list all of the movie references in this film.

i could sit there and listen to his dialogue for hours. this guy trusts his audience to hang in there and let him build a plot and character development. the opening scene is a perfect example. the sheer terror QT creates by the nazi's folksy, pleasant, yet lethal manner is a perfect example. i can't get enough of this film.

it's just sad that these gems come a long so seldom. in a world of "transformers" and "halloween" dreck, "basterds" is a refreshing alternative.

Yes it had lots of details and a lot of research went into this film, which is why I scrutinized it so much.
The whole plot at the end was very weak in my opinion and very unrealistic for a movie that went to such lengths to watch details.

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 05:30 AM

I truly feel bad for you. I was able to get a lot of enjoyment for 2/12 hours. That's really too bad. Just wondering, what was the last movie that rocked your world?

Foster's Blackberry

08-31-2009, 07:55 AM

I truly feel bad for you. I was able to get a lot of enjoyment for 2/12 hours. That's really too bad. Just wondering, what was the last movie that rocked your world?

If you enjoyed the movie that much, then good for you.
As I stated before I "liked" the movie, was just a little disappointed in it.
There is no need for you to feel sorry for me, so stop the condescending bullshit.

and to answer your question, I can't remember any movie "rocking my world", but I would say Shaw Shank Redemption, and Pulp Fiction are movies I always watch if I find them flipping through the channels.

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 09:14 AM

Shawshank was a good movie.

Pedestrian, manipulative, formulaic, and predictable.
but good.

Now I see why you" liked" "basterds".

I'm sorry you find my response to your comments seemingly condescending.
Unintended. To each their own. No worries, my good man. I do think you are spot on with pulp fiction.

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 09:24 AM

Rob B: when you wrote,"good for you!", all I could think about was terminator 4"s nice guy Christian bale.

I know. Good for me!

Foster's Blackberry

08-31-2009, 09:32 AM

Rob B: when you wrote,"good for you!", all I could think about was terminator 4"s nice guy Christian bale.

I know. Good for me!

Sorry, didn't see that movie.

I don't go to the movies much.

Rockvillejoe

08-31-2009, 09:40 AM

Sorry, didn't see that movie.

I don't go to the movies much.

good idea to pass on this one. just a loud borefest.

the "good for you" comments were actually bale yelling at a member of the movie production staff because he was in bales' line of sight, off camera, but in his vision, during a scene they were filming.

bale went ballistic. here. see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvMTv_r8sA

NosePicker

08-31-2009, 04:44 PM

what day did the buddays review the movie. i just saw it and i want to go back and listen to what they thought about it

Foster

08-31-2009, 04:57 PM

TooLowBrow

08-31-2009, 04:57 PM

april 11th

Foster

08-31-2009, 05:04 PM

Ron reviewed it in his blog

has the blog bit run its course?

monkfish

08-31-2009, 05:06 PM

I think it was 8/24.

underdog

08-31-2009, 05:06 PM

Last Monday, the 24th.

sailor

08-31-2009, 05:07 PM

I think it was 8/24.

January third.

~Katja~

08-31-2009, 05:10 PM

Monday after opening weekend.

TripleSkeet

08-31-2009, 09:11 PM

Pedestrian, manipulative, formulaic, and predictable.

Thats funny. I wouldnt have used any of those words to describe Shawshank.

CruelCircus

09-01-2009, 02:16 AM

Rockvillejoe, I apologize for the "condescending bullshit" statement.
due to the spacing, your post reads much differently on my PC then it does on my blackberry;
again sorry.

Rob, I don't think you need to apologize.
I got that he was being unnecessarily condescending, as well, and his response was, too.

CruelCircus

09-01-2009, 02:29 AM

i wonder how many oscar's it's going to get since the jews run hollywood.

Not sure if I'd bank on that. Check out QT's interview with The Forward (the Jewish newspaper): http://www.forward.com/articles/112638/
Pay particular attention to the comment section.

As for my take on the movie, I found it highly entertaining, but it wasn't perfect. It was very well made, and I never was wondering about the time. However, I would have really liked to have seen more about the Basterds themselves, and seen more of the exploits that allowed then to build their legend. The one baseball bat scene was not nearly enough. I also agree with whoever pointed out the lack of security in the theater. I was thinking the exact same thing at the time. The Mike Myers scene seemed gratuitous. Was there even a need for the British character to be introduced? It would have been much easier just to make the guy one of the Americans.

NosePicker

09-01-2009, 04:06 AM

thanx everybody

Rockvillejoe

09-01-2009, 04:07 AM

Rob, I don't think you need to apologize.
I got that he was being unnecessarily condescending, as well, and his response was, too.

hey! not condescending! who the fuck am i to profess? i'm just giving my o-pinion. and honestly.

i think you in commenting on me being condescending is condescending.

although i agree no apology was necessary. jesus fuck.

Rockvillejoe

09-01-2009, 04:21 AM

Thats funny. I wouldnt have used any of those words to describe Shawshank.

Pedestrian: a good man goes to prison. made a mistake. not exactly an intricately woven situation. not that a simple idea can be a good idea. it is. but is pedestrian.

manipulative: we the audience identify with the 2 main characters and their plight. good men having to deal with an evil regime. the music, the actors used, the language, all cliches

formulaic: good man deals with adversity. along the way he figures out a way to succeed, and lives happily ever after

predictable: if you didn't see the warden going down and the 2 good guys living happily ever after, then you don't watch many american made movies. or the "lifer" that gets released finds it hard to reintergrate, resulting in suicide, then you are pretty dull witted.

and despite these flaws i still enjoyed the movie. but it is designed to be a "feel good" movie. i'd rather have seen the reality and have them rot in prison by taking the warden out with a shank. that would have been the real shawshank redemption.

most simple american movies always follow the same formula. adversity, some hope, more adversity, then success, then happiness. they suck you in, you can guess the next 5 steps, and you walk out happy we the good folks "Won".

in "Basterds", who knew? QT takes you on a ride where predictatlity is not an option. as we know he even re-writes history for the sake of a good story. and all the other things mentioned. shawshank was good. basterds, in my view, was great. is that condescending? may be dumb.

Contra

09-01-2009, 10:23 AM

However, I would have really liked to have seen more about the Basterds themselves, and seen more of the exploits that allowed then to build their legend. The one baseball bat scene was not nearly enough.

Gotta leave enough for the prequel!

Foster

09-01-2009, 03:59 PM

Pedestrian: a good man goes to prison. made a mistake. not exactly an intricately woven situation. not that a simple idea can be a good idea. it is. but is pedestrian.

manipulative: we the audience identify with the 2 main characters and their plight. good men having to deal with an evil regime. the music, the actors used, the language, all cliches

formulaic: good man deals with adversity. along the way he figures out a way to succeed, and lives happily ever after

predictable: if you didn't see the warden going down and the 2 good guys living happily ever after, then you don't watch many american made movies. or the "lifer" that gets released finds it hard to reintergrate, resulting in suicide, then you are pretty dull witted.

and despite these flaws i still enjoyed the movie. but it is designed to be a "feel good" movie. i'd rather have seen the reality and have them rot in prison by taking the warden out with a shank. that would have been the real shawshank redemption.

most simple american movies always follow the same formula. adversity, some hope, more adversity, then success, then happiness. they suck you in, you can guess the next 5 steps, and you walk out happy we the good folks "Won".

in "Basterds", who knew? QT takes you on a ride where predictatlity is not an option. as we know he even re-writes history for the sake of a good story. and all the other things mentioned. shawshank was good. basterds, in my view, was great. is that condescending? may be dumb.

I have to disagree with you about Basterds, that ending was very predictable, from the fire in the theater to the double-cross at the end.

QT may not follow "the same formula" as other movie makers, but he certainly is following a pattern in his films.
most notably, him using two to three scenes developing a character, so the audience grows an attachment to them, then have them killed unexpectedly.

TheMojoPin

09-01-2009, 04:11 PM

Pedestrian: a good man goes to prison. made a mistake. not exactly an intricately woven situation. not that a simple idea can be a good idea. it is. but is pedestrian.

Like a movie about Americans killing Nazis in WWII.

manipulative: we the audience identify with the 2 main characters and their plight. good men having to deal with an evil regime. the music, the actors used, the language, all cliches

You mean like a movie that uses the plight of the Jews in WW2? And having to deal with the evil regime of Hitler? And that's basically just a giant batch of creative cliches that we've seen again and again from the filmmaker?

formulaic: good man deals with adversity. along the way he figures out a way to succeed, and lives happily ever after

Good guys defeat Nazis.

predictable: if you didn't see the warden going down and the 2 good guys living happily ever after, then you don't watch many american made movies. or the "lifer" that gets released finds it hard to reintergrate, resulting in suicide, then you are pretty dull witted.

Or the obvious ending where, again, the good guys defeat the Nazis.

and despite these flaws i still enjoyed the movie. but it is designed to be a "feel good" movie. i'd rather have seen the reality and have them rot in prison by taking the warden out with a shank. that would have been the real shawshank redemption.

most simple american movies always follow the same formula. adversity, some hope, more adversity, then success, then happiness. they suck you in, you can guess the next 5 steps, and you walk out happy we the good folks "Won".

in "Basterds", who knew? QT takes you on a ride where predictatlity is not an option. as we know he even re-writes history for the sake of a good story. and all the other things mentioned. shawshank was good. basterds, in my view, was great. is that condescending? may be dumb.

I enjoyed both films. I just think your attempt to diminish one while propping up the other requires someone to completely ignore how most of your criticisms could easily to both apply to both films, or even most films. Very few films are as unique as would require to not fulfill your very broad criticisms. The key is in the specific execution of the filmmaking, from the script to how the film is shot and edited and acted. I think both films succeed in that regard in taking two very tried (or tired) and true genres (prison films and WW2 films) and spinning them into films that are ultimately very different from the rest of the pack (or were at least when they came out).