Lost: Season 5

[K.C.]

Looks like they'll ease into it this summer with another alternate reality game that could stretch a few months and reveal info about next season.

This little gem is making the rounds.

http://www.octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

If you plug in your e-mail address for the Comic Con, you supposedly get an e-mail from Octagon. What's strange about it, though, is an e-mail address hansvaneegen@octagonglobalrecruiting.com is CC'd...if you send him an e-mail, you get an auto response telling you he's away and will contact you soon.

The Lost ARG's are pretty fun and usually reveal aspects of the mythology of the show that people are interested in, but they just don't have time to address in-depth on the show.

In Season 2, they did 'The Lost Experience' which revealed a lot of background about DHARMA, and last year they did 'Find 815' which revealed a lot about the cover up of the 815 crash and gave some key clues on things to pay attention to in the upcoming season.

Seems like they'll probably kick this into full gear at the Comic-Con with either a new DHARMA video, or a new Octagon video.

Last year...they gave us The Orchid orientation at the Comic-Con...it just so happened to be the key to most of Season 4.

[CardiffGiant]

Oh man I remember doing the online game between S2 and S3 and emailing Jack at his work email and getting what appeared to be a regular old out of office message in reply. Was very cool. I had no idea they were doing another online thing to kill the time until 09. I'll have to check this out.

[K.C.]

Oh man I remember doing the online game between S2 and S3 and emailing Jack at his work email and getting what appeared to be a regular old out of office message in reply. Was very cool. I had no idea they were doing another online thing to kill the time until 09. I'll have to check this out.

The Find 815 game last year was pretty good, too.

You played as a guy who's girlfriend was on 815, and you get sent a mysterious photo of her from an anonymous source, that's been doctored and it leads to this whole big mystery unraveling that leads to the discovery of the planted crash site.

The scene at the beginning of Episode 2 last season was directly derived from the Find 815 game.


This one should be awesome.

[Furtherman]

ABC.com has started a Lost Book Club. (http://www.abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=bookclub)

http://a.abc.com/media/primetime/lost/images/season/4/callouts/270x97_bookclub_messageboard_02.jpg

[IamFogHat]

Emmy nods are officially in, Lost is back on board for best series:thumbup:
And Emmerson got another nod for Ben Linus, hope he wins this year.
Here's the rest.
http://www.thetailsection.com/lost-news/lost-lands-emmy-nominations.php

[patsopinion]

Looks like they'll ease into it this summer with another alternate reality game that could stretch a few months and reveal info about next season.

This little gem is making the rounds.

http://www.octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

If you plug in your e-mail address for the Comic Con, you supposedly get an e-mail from Octagon. What's strange about it, though, is an e-mail address hansvaneegen@octagonglobalrecruiting.com is CC'd...if you send him an e-mail, you get an auto response telling you he's away and will contact you soon.

The Lost ARG's are pretty fun and usually reveal aspects of the mythology of the show that people are interested in, but they just don't have time to address in-depth on the show.

In Season 2, they did 'The Lost Experience' which revealed a lot of background about DHARMA, and last year they did 'Find 815' which revealed a lot about the cover up of the 815 crash and gave some key clues on things to pay attention to in the upcoming season.

Seems like they'll probably kick this into full gear at the Comic-Con with either a new DHARMA video, or a new Octagon video.

Last year...they gave us The Orchid orientation at the Comic-Con...it just so happened to be the key to most of Season 4.

it says right in the thing that its unpaid
im not going to become one of the others for free
maybe if they pay me like... 300,000k for 4 years id consider

[patsopinion]

ABC.com has started a Lost Book Club. (http://www.abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=bookclub)

http://a.abc.com/media/primetime/lost/images/season/4/callouts/270x97_bookclub_messageboard_02.jpg

dam that cool
maybe nerd cool
but cool none the less

[K.C.]

Got my first e-mail from Octagon:

ATTENTION ALL RECRUITS
DHARMA HEAD OF RECRUITING TO ATTEND LAUNCH

Octagon Global Recruiting, on behalf of the Dharma Initiative, is pleased to announce that Dharma's Head of Recruiting, Mr. Hans Van Eeghen, has confirmed his availability for the launch of our latest recruiting drive at Comic-Con 2008.

"My colleagues at Octagon Global Recruiting assure me that Comic-con hosts some of the brightest minds in the country," said Mr. Van Eeghen. "As Head of Recruiting it is my intention to personally assess the very best of this talent in the hope that they may join us."

The Dharma Initiative will be conducting eligibility assessments at Booth 3529 at Comic-Con, San Diego between July 24th - 27th.

If you are attending Comic-Con and would like to submit your name for a randomly selected drawing to secure one of ten (10) pre-release appointments with one of our recruiting officers, please click here.

The volunteer eligibility assessment will be available online from July 28th for a limited time at www.dharmawantsyou.com

The Dharma Initiative hopes you will spread the word. Invite your friends to join the team at www.octagonglobalrecruiting.com

If you can't view the images in this email please click here

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION OF THE DHARMA INITIATIVE:
This message and its attachments are confidential and may contain information which is protected by copyright. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the authorized recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the authorized recipient), you must not use, disclose, print, copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete this message and its attachments from your system. Any content of this message and its attachments that does not relate to the official business of the Dharma Initiative or its subsidiaries must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by any of them. No representation is made that this email or its attachments are without defect or that the contents express views other than those of the sender.


One of the trends from the last couple Lost ARGs is looking for clues in the source code.

This is buried in the Octagon site:


…If you’re reading this, wanna hear something cool?
I’ve got intel about his little “recruitment drive.”
They’re doing some kind’ve personality/IQ testing or something down in SD for ComicCon.
Buddy of mine works down there and has the approvals for their “booth,” he says once you go in no one knows what happens inside and you need an appointment to get in. He also said to make sure you’ve got your Bluetooth on and visible – he’s rigged up a little something.


The whole thing sounds like elitist B.S., doesn’t it?
Well, I’m getting in that booth and taking the test.
As many times as I have to before I “pass” (whatever that means?)
And then…
If I can?
I’m gonna tape it so EVERYONE can see what these idiots are up to.
Should be fun, right?
See ya in SD. RuckusGuy OUT.

[spadanko]

update from Comic-con

On Saturday at the San Diego Comic-Con, a huge crowd of Lost fans was treated to a Q&A session with the famous team of Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, several knick-knacks, a few pieces of scoop and one big surprise.

To kick things off, "Darlton" handed out specific gifts to each person who asked a question. The best exchange: An uncanny Hurley look-a-like was awarded a Dharma bottle of ranch dressing.

Later, after someone posed a question about the Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle, the exec producers began bickering about how the action figure they were about to gift the fan didn't really look like Matthew Fox. Cue the surprise entrance of... Matthew Fox! The Losties went nuts because not five minutes earlier Darlton said the panel was only going to involve the two of them (if only because the cast is so hard to track down before they start shooting in Hawaii).

The main draw for any Lost diehard, of course, is the vague promise of scoop. As far as new intel goes, it was typically scarce. The execs revealed that Jin (who last was seen on the exploding freighter) and Locke (reclined in a coffin under the purview of FutureJack as the season finale faded to black) each would be back in some capacity, and that "dead is a relative term" on this show. Also, animal lovers may be pleased to know that Vincent is not only alive and well, but will make it to the end of the series!

To wrap things up, a fan came out on stage with a video camera screaming that he had "exclusive video from the Dharma booth." It was shot Blair Witch-style, and was clearly a planned part of the panel, yet the footage still was hilarious. As the tape unspoiled, the scientist from the Dharma orientation films hinted that the island is 30 years behind. (The hatch music from the '70s now makes a bit more sense.) He begged anyone watching to reconstitute the Dharma Initiative, because all of the original doctors are dead. Say what?! — Erin Fox

[Tall_James]

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[Doctor Manhattan]

http://www.dharmawantsyou.com

Looks like whoever put the eligibility test together is a fan of Blade Runner.

[K.C.]

http://www.dharmawantsyou.com

Looks like whoever put the eligibility test together is a fan of Blade Runner.


Got the e-mail update and took the test today. Passed it and set up a profile.

The video was interesting. Sounded like the guy taping in was Faraday from the voice.

[TonyStark]

I love the viral promotions that this show does. It's really great to be able to found out little tidbits of stuff that's behind the underlying story of the shows. i cannot wait for this to come back in the fall.


By the way, I'm new here, so I just wanted to say hi to all. I'll try to be pretty active in the future. I do marketing work, so there's some pretty cool stuff that rolls across my desk that i'll share. :smile:

[OGC]

I love the viral promotions that this show does. It's really great to be able to found out little tidbits of stuff that's behind the underlying story of the shows. i cannot wait for this to come back in the fall.


By the way, I'm new here, so I just wanted to say hi to all. I'll try to be pretty active in the future. I do marketing work, so there's some pretty cool stuff that rolls across my desk that i'll share. :smile:

Welcome. Is it coming back this fall ? I thought I had heard next spring.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Welcome. Is it coming back this fall ? I thought I had heard next spring.

Season 5 starts late January/early February 2009

[spadanko]

Got the e-mail update and took the test today. Passed it and set up a profile.

The video was interesting. Sounded like the guy taping in was Faraday from the voice.


when i submitted to register it jsut hung.. gotta try it out again

[Furtherman]

'Lost' Season 5 Premiere Scoop! The Episode Title Is... (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20218344,00.html?xid=email-alert-lost-20080812-item1)

It seems Bronsen and his three friends were allowed to watch a mysterious video communiqué from our old friend, Dr. Marvin Candle, the cryptic emcee from those Dharma orientation tapes. The highlights:

1. Dr. Candle claims his true name is Dr. Pierre Chang.
2. Chang claims to be broadcasting from the past — 30 years in the past, so circa 1978 — and sending the signal through some kind of temporal pinhole.
3. Chang claims to know information about his future/our present — that our president is George Bush; that we use the Internet; that Dharma is doomed to be destroyed via ''the purge'' — and that he knows this information from a ''credible'' source.
4. A crying baby can be heard off-camera, and at one point, Candle/Chang asks someone to shush him. Could the child be someone we know — perhaps, say, ghost-whispering hustler Miles Straume?
5. Chang's urgent message for the present: The Dharma Initiative must be reconstituted in order to prevent some kind of calamitous future event.
6. The video ends with the man operating the camera despairing over the futility of the endeavor — a man who sounds a lot like time-traveling scientist Daniel Faraday.

[TonyStark]

Oh nice, I remember hearing all kinds of things about the stuff that they showed, but I still hadn't really figured out what the meat of it was. Good read for Lost fans...

[Doctor Manhattan]

Happy 8/15 everybody!

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8252/150pxnewdharmacb1.png

Namaste

[K.C.]

Here's a high quality version of the comic-con video

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From what I gather:

Faraday ends up going back in time about 30 years to when the DHARMA Initiative still runs the island, and warns them. But it's already been stated that people cannot change the past, so no matter what happens, the Purge can't be stopped. In turn, Chang uses the Orchid to send the video to the future to try and save DHARMA's work.

There's no doubt in my mind that Faraday is the 'reliable source' and the guy that's holding the camera.

[K.C.]

Man, I'm hurting for some Lost...it's going to be a long Fall season without it.

Rewatching some of Season 3


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Love the way Jin screams 'Hurley!'

[Furtherman]

Man, I'm hurting for some Lost...it's going to be a long Fall season without it.

Rewatching some of Season 3

Love the way Jin screams 'Hurley!'

That might be my favorite episode of season 3. I remember after it aired there was a lot of backlash from the whole "nothing happened" camp, which was a bit larger back then. Not so much now, and good. Wonderless pricks. Sawyer had some of his best lines in that episode, and if you didn't smile watching Hurley drive that truck around, you have no soul.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

That episode has maybe my favourite comedy moment when you go back and realize that Sawyer is fucking around with the skeleton of Ben's father, Roger Workman.

[K.C.]

That might be my favorite episode of season 3. I remember after it aired there was a lot of backlash from the whole "nothing happened" camp, which was a bit larger back then. Not so much now, and good. Wonderless pricks. Sawyer had some of his best lines in that episode, and if you didn't smile watching Hurley drive that truck around, you have no soul.

I wish they had enough time left to make more 'nothing happened' episodes.

I miss the character driven episodes.

Now it's all intense plot, and it's pretty much going to be that way from here on out.


And Sawyer from the time he gets back to the beach camp in Season 3, to the episode where Locke gets him to kill Anthony Cooper is the best bit of Sawyer in the series to this point.

I like the whole Sawyer/Hurley buddy bit they had going on. They did it a little bit in Season 4, but didn't really have time to do too much with it with the high body count last season.

[TonyStark]

I agree I just want to see more of Hurley. The way he bonds with people on show actually gives it a human flare, and reminds me of season 1 where everyone was kind of hung out to dry and they realized the only way they would survive is by sticking together and becoming friends. Now there's so many deep things going on with the future and all that trippy stuff...it's missing something that it used to have.

[WampusCrandle]

I miss the character driven episodes.

I like the whole Sawyer/Hurley buddy bit they had going on. They did it a little bit in Season 4, but didn't really have time to do too much with it with the high body count last season.

i really hope that there is more Sawyer/ Hurley, especially since Sawyer is seemingly around in the future.

i've watched 4 seasons in two and a half weeks ... i love Lost.

[ChrisBrown]

When will the new season start? I just heard for the first time that there won't be new episodes in the fall. that sucks, I was looking forward to new Lost episodes.

[K.C.]

When will the new season start? I just heard for the first time that there won't be new episodes in the fall. that sucks, I was looking forward to new Lost episodes.

No official date, but probably last week of January '09.

[WampusCrandle]

No official date, but probably last week of January '09.

jesus christ, i cant wait that long

[ChrisTheCop]

jesus christ, i cant wait that long

Use the time to go back to Seasons 1 and 2, and see all the stuff you missed, didnt think made any sense, or even disliked. Now that youve seen everything, it ALL makes sense!!!!

Well...not all,of course. But itll be cool anyway.

[TonyStark]

Use the time to go back to Seasons 1 and 2, and see all the stuff you missed, didnt think made any sense, or even disliked. Now that youve seen everything, it ALL makes sense!!!!

Well...not all,of course. But itll be cool anyway.
It's definitely worth going back over season 4 if you can. So much happened in so few Episodes that you're going to want to catch up on all that stuff so you're primed for the story to take off when season 5 hits.

[Furtherman]

It's definitely worth going back over season 4 if you can. So much happened in so few Episodes that you're going to want to catch up on all that stuff so you're primed for the story to take off when season 5 hits.

Season 4 on DVD December 9th.

[K.C.]

New e-mail from the ARG

Dharma Initiative

ATTENTION ALL RECRUITS
RE: OFFICIAL LAUNCH OF TESTING
Namaste.

Today is the most wonderful of days.

It marks the launch of the Dharma Initiative's Volunteer Recruitment Program.

Having completed the eligibility test you can now download your official Dharma Initiative ID card. Simply go to My Profile and download your card. Carry it with pride.

Today you will also be able to commence our extensive testing program that will assess your suitability for a range of research roles within the Dharma Initiative.

Many years ago I was asked to help rebuild this noble community of scientific inquiry. With its genuinely altruistic vision, I understood that a vibrant volunteer cohort would be a fundamental part of this effort.

Together, with my dedicated recruiting team, I have searched the globe for the best and brightest to join us, to form the foundations of the newly reconstituted Dharma Initiative.

Today we lay that foundation. So that together we can guide the world to a better tomorrow.

Hans Van Eeghen
Head of Recruiting
The Dharma Initiative

Haven't been able to log onto the site yet.

Hopefully this leads to some videos making the rounds that are a bit revealing about DHARMA, similar to the Lost Experience game.

They revealed a lot in that game, that I'm not sure they're ever really going to address in the show, such as the meaning of the numbers.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Use the time to go back to Seasons 1 and 2...

This is what I'm going to be doing.

There are 69 Episodes in the first 3 seasons, so if you start watching 1 episode a day beginning October 1st, you will be done on December 8th, then you can pick up the 4th season on DVD the next day and then watch those. You will have plenty of time before Seaons 5 starts to rewatch anything you want to see again (or just play around with the bonus features)

[Furtherman]

Exclusive: 'Lost' Resurrects Michelle Rodriguez! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/08/michelle-rodrig.html?cid=127852918#comment-127852918)

Awesome. I liked the Anna Lucia character. I was angry when they killed her off. I hope to see some kind of closure to her story.

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/25/michellerodriguez_l.jpg

[disneyspy]

Season 4 on DVD December 9th.

thank you for answerin my question before i could ask it,i have the 1st 3 and my friends are catchin on to this great show cuz of them.the ones that have watched the 1st 3 seasons have all asked me when im buyin season 4.i love you guys and this thread:thumbup:

[K.C.]

Exclusive: 'Lost' Resurrects Michelle Rodriguez! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/08/michelle-rodrig.html?cid=127852918#comment-127852918)

Awesome. I liked the Anna Lucia character. I was angry when they killed her off. I hope to see some kind of closure to her story.

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/25/michellerodriguez_l.jpg



Very, very, interesting.


While it's probably likely that it's related to Hurley and his hallucinations in some capacity, I like the idea of doing a Miles-centric flashback, where Ana-Lucia is still in the LAPD and trying to track him down as being a scam artist.

She finally catches him, and Miles, through his ghost whispering powers, foresees her death on the island in the future and warns her, but she blows it off.

[Dre]

Just checking into the thread and saying I'm a huge LOST fan, started watching live when Season 4 started, caught up on Seasons 1-3 last summer, and am damn excited for the 5'th season in January. I still can't believe we have to wait this long for new LOST, but oh well, I've got "The Office", and the potentially good "Fringe" from some of the LOST people to tide me until then. I'm gonna buy Season 4 on DVD in December to complete my LOST DVD collection and re-watch it near when Season 5 starts to be prepared and refreshed for the new season.

I also, checked out, took the test, passed and joined the Dharma Initiative project, interesting stuff there. Hope we get some good tidbits about the show from these ARGs.

[TonyStark]

Very, very, interesting.


While it's probably likely that it's related to Hurley and his hallucinations in some capacity, I like the idea of doing a Miles-centric flashback, where Ana-Lucia is still in the LAPD and trying to track him down as being a scam artist.

She finally catches him, and Miles, through his ghost whispering powers, foresees her death on the island in the future and warns her, but she blows it off.
That's a very good guess. I was thinking that it was either a flashback of one of the characters that was close to her or that it was a Hurley vision thing ala Dominic Monaghan. Maybe it's sometihing haunting Jack though. I'm not quite sure how they'd work that in, but Jack having some demons chasing him (again) would be really cool.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I'm rewatching Lost from the beginning and I'm up to the episode where Claire is attacked and Hurley suggested starting a census because no one really knows each other, which got me thinking:

Has anyone kept track of the background Flight 815 people? How many people from the original 72 people (48 from the main cabin, 22 from the Tail, the pilot and Aaron who was born later) who survived the crash are still alive by the time Ben moves the island?

[WampusCrandle]

I'm rewatching Lost from the beginning and I'm up to the episode where Claire is attacked and Hurley suggested starting a census because no one really knows each other, which got me thinking:

Has anyone kept track of the background Flight 815 people? How many people from the original 72 people (48 from the main cabin, 22 from the Tail, the pilot and Aaron who was born later) who survived the crash are still alive by the time Ben moves the island?

that is probably one of my favorite episodes in Lost, by far! i flipped when i heard the end result of Hurley's census.

[disneyspy]

im kinda interested if anyones taken a census on the survivors of the fba crash on 8 15.ive seen some"refugees"here that i dont recognize from my 2 months there.has anybody else noticed that most survivors are like 2 degrees of sawyer?ask me,im a lost geek

[Friday]

im kinda interested if anyones taken a census on the survivors of the fba crash on 8 15.ive seen some"refugees"here that i dont recognize from my 2 months there.has anybody else noticed that most survivors are like 2 degrees of sawyer?ask me,im a lost geek

oooh..
your post reminded me that i need to go take some tests or something on 'dharmawantsyou.com' .... hopefully the site is up now.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[K.C.]

That's a very good guess. I was thinking that it was either a flashback of one of the characters that was close to her or that it was a Hurley vision thing ala Dominic Monaghan. Maybe it's sometihing haunting Jack though. I'm not quite sure how they'd work that in, but Jack having some demons chasing him (again) would be really cool.


Jack would be an interesting one, but I always felt that the Jack/Ana Lucia dynamic was a missed opportunity.

They set it up with the Season 1 finale, and really the only meaningful interaction they had after that was when he went to her about forming the army to fight The Others, which promptly dropped after Sawyer stole the guns (another storyline that went nowhere).

I do think they really did have to kind of kill her off when they did, but they never really did too much with her.

It'll be interesting to see.



I was hoping they'd bring back Mr. Eko for a cameo this season. That's the one character they really off'd way too early, but they were kind of forced to. Apparently Adewele's parents both died and he requested to be written out.

[Furtherman]

In what reps the first major piece of casting for Lost's fifth season, sources confirm to me exclusively that Zuleikha Robinson has been tapped to play the pivotal role of Ilana. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/lost-casts-zule.html)

Shaaaweet. I really liked her in The Lone Gunmen.

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/36/06/69/3606691_tml.jpg

[ChrisTheCop]

In what reps the first major piece of casting for Lost's fifth season, sources confirm to me exclusively that Zuleikha Robinson has been tapped to play the pivotal role of Ilana. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/09/lost-casts-zule.html)

Shaaaweet. I really liked her in The Lone Gunmen.

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/36/06/69/3606691_tml.jpg

Wow. I loved her as Gaia (the whore) in Rome. Sexy-time!!!!

[disneyspy]

thanks for the update,i think im startin to get LOST withdrawls,cant wait til oct 1st to start the one episode a day thing.Hi im spy and im a lostaholic...

[disneyspy]

LOST starts next monday at 7 pm on sci-fi!for those of ya that want to catch up but dont want to buy the seasons.anybody up for postin durin the reruns? if sum1 wants to start da thread,im in

[Furtherman]

LOST starts next monday at 7 pm on sci-fi!for those of ya that want to catch up but dont want to buy the seasons.anybody up for postin durin the reruns? if sum1 wants to start da thread,im in

Watching the seasons without commercials is GREAT. You're better off getting the DVD.

[K.C.]

Watching the seasons without commercials is GREAT. You're better off getting the DVD.

Agreed.

When I was catching a couple seasons ago, I watched the first six or seven episodes of Season 3 in a row.

I heard so much bitching about how nothing happened, and they were awful, and there was too much waiting in between, but watching them straight through, I thought they told a good story and really set up a lot.

[disneyspy]

Watching the seasons without commercials is GREAT. You're better off getting the DVD.

got the 1st 3 seasons,just thought itd be cool to share our insights,like ive noticed everyone on that plane is 2 degrees of sawyer,he either bumped into them or someone they knew,stuff like that

[K.C.]

G4 and Sci-Fi are showing Lost from the beginning in syndication.

First two pilot episodes on on G4 today, right now.

[ChrisTheCop]

Not sure a discussion thread would work. Different people are at different levels of their Lost experience. A viewing thread might reveal things newer viewers shouldnt know/dont wanna know.

Anywho... Today I watched "The Other 48 Days" again. It's like watching Les Miserables again, seeing people so full of hope, even though they all mostly end up dead.

I did notice something, and it may not end up being that big a deal but...

When Ana Lucia was having her doubts about Nathan, it wasnt exactly Goodwin that shoved her overboard...Libby came to her and said Nathan scares her, and that she never saw him on the plane, etc... AND helps her finish digging the hole. Coupled with her obvious connections to getting other people onto that island, it got me to thinking, have we ever seen Libby on the plane? I cant recall it, but even if so, knowing what we know about her now, it was interesting behavior.

[IamFogHat]

Not sure a discussion thread would work. Different people are at different levels of their Lost experience. A viewing thread might reveal things newer viewers shouldnt know/dont wanna know.

Anywho... Today I watched "The Other 48 Days" again. It's like watching Les Miserables again, seeing people so full of hope, even though they all mostly end up dead.

I did notice something, and it may not end up being that big a deal but...

When Ana Lucia was having her doubts about Nathan, it wasnt exactly Goodwin that shoved her overboard...Libby came to her and said Nathan scares her, and that she never saw him on the plane, etc... AND helps her finish digging the hole. Coupled with her obvious connections to getting other people onto that island, it got me to thinking, have we ever seen Libby on the plane? I cant recall it, but even if so, knowing what we know about her now, it was interesting behavior.

We technically haven't, but she also told Hurley in 'Dave' that when he got on the plane late he stepped on her foot, and he seemed to remember it. But I know where you're going with this and I totally agree with you.

[ChrisTheCop]

We technically haven't, but she also told Hurley in 'Dave' that when he got on the plane late he stepped on her foot, and he seemed to remember it. But I know where you're going with this and I totally agree with you.

Holy shit. THAT even ads to it! And I think I just answered one of my big previous questions (with your help!)
Hurley was in the front of the plane, she was in the back...how did he step on her toe going to his seat?! (remember everyone was already seated when Hurley got on the plane) For whatever reason, I always thought the answer to that one would be against Hurley... but after watching her behavior in "48 Days" I gotta say, she wasnt on the fuckin plane!

These writers and their knowing where theyre going every step (no pun intended) of the way!!!:clap::clap::clap:

[Aggie]

Every time I see this thread get bumped I get excited, then sad. It makes me realize how far away new eps are. ::tear::

I gotta go rent the first season and start over.

[WampusCrandle]

Every time I see this thread get bumped I get excited, then sad. It makes me realize how far away new eps are. ::tear::

I gotta go rent the first season and start over.

they are comin' soon, just watch the first four seasons of Lost and be content.

[Johnny Manf]

I always watch the last season before the new season starts.
But it usually doesnt come out in stores until December so even thats a bit of a wait.

[ChrisTheCop]

I always watch the last season before the new season starts.
But it usually doesnt come out in stores until December so even thats a bit of a wait.

abc.com...every season for free on your pc!!!

[Doctor Manhattan]

Not sure a discussion thread would work. Different people are at different levels of their Lost experience. A viewing thread might reveal things newer viewers shouldnt know/dont wanna know.

I know some disagree with me but I think it should be safe to post about a show as long as it has aired to the general public. People who are not up to date should not be reading a Lost thread unless they are willing to spoil themselves.

I can understand wanting to give people a few days to catch up but are you guys actually putting stuff from fucking Season 2 in spoiler font? Interesting that you are talking about Season 2 as that is were I am now on my review of the show (watching all the shows in order waiting for Season 4 on DVD so I can continue before Season 5 starts, to refresh myself on anything I missed or just forgot about)

At this point I think it's safe to opening post about everything we have seen on the actual TV show up to Season 4's finale (Locke in the coffin) yeah, I "spoiled" it. He's in the coffin but he's still alive on the show and looks like he's leading "The others"

[ChrisTheCop]

I know some disagree with me but I think it should be safe to post about a show as long as it has aired to the general public. People who are not up to date should not be reading a Lost thread unless they are willing to spoil themselves.

I can understand wanting to give people a few days to catch up but are you guys actually putting stuff from fucking Season 2 in spoiler font? Interesting that you are talking about Season 2 as that is were I am now on my review of the show (watching all the shows in order waiting for Season 4 on DVD so I can continue before Season 5 starts, to refresh myself on anything I missed or just forgot about)

At this point I think it's safe to opening post about everything we have seen on the actual TV show up to Season 4's finale (Locke in the coffin) yeah, I "spoiled" it. He's in the coffin but he's still alive on the show and looks like he's leading "The others"

Doc, I'm surprised at you. You usually read the entire thread b4 posting.:nono:

[WampusCrandle]

I know some disagree with me but I think it should be safe to post about a show as long as it has aired to the general public. People who are not up to date should not be reading a Lost thread unless they are willing to spoil themselves.

I can understand wanting to give people a few days to catch up but are you guys actually putting stuff from fucking Season 2 in spoiler font? Interesting that you are talking about Season 2 as that is were I am now on my review of the show (watching all the shows in order waiting for Season 4 on DVD so I can continue before Season 5 starts, to refresh myself on anything I missed or just forgot about)

At this point I think it's safe to opening post about everything we have seen on the actual TV show up to Season 4's finale (Locke in the coffin) yeah, I "spoiled" it. He's in the coffin but he's still alive on the show and looks like he's leading "The others"

HERE HERE! if people havent caught up with the show by now - they should stay away from this thread. i stayed away from every thread related to heroes and lost until i finished all the seasons. in stead of posting, watch tv. DO NOT SOCIALIZE UNTIL YOU FINISH LOST, GOD DAMN IT!

with that being said, Chris - you are a sweetie.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Doc, I'm surprised at you. You usually read the entire thread b4 posting.:nono:

I'm going to be "I don't get the bit guy" and ask you to explain the joke.

And Thanks Wampus. Glad to see someone feel the same way I do. Yesterday on O&A Anthony mentioned that there was a clip from Lost on a TV in the studio. Sounded like Shannon being shot. He asked if Jimmy was okay with seeing that since he was behind. reminded me of this thread since a Season 2 spoiler was what prompted my post.

[disneyspy]

tried to hold out til oct 1st and do the one eppy a day route til season 4 came out,but the spoiler tags got me,im on season 1 disc 2...

[ChrisTheCop]

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="2"][COLOR="Red"]I'm going to be "I don't get the bit guy" and ask you to explain the joke.



No bit, no joke really.

Someone posted that since SciFi is running the series from the beginning, should we do a viewing thread here? My thought was that might not be a good idea since some people havent seen it, and participating in a viewing thread with more experienced viewers might roon it for them. I am in no way saying that the normal discussion threads we've had here since season 1 are bad in anyway; I'm an active participant. I was answering that one question as to whether we should have a viewing thread, and you SEEMED to misinterpret what I was saying.

Now, since I've been forced to ponder whether my initial answer was correct, I would say Of Course It Is! with the addendum that perhaps there be 2 viewing threads; one for new viewers, and a second for vets, if any at all.

Again, this is not a comment on our usual discussion thread, this is a comment on the idea of a viewing thread. Over.

[TooLowBrow]

No bit, no joke really.

Someone posted that since SciFi is running the series from the beginning, should we do a viewing thread here? My thought was that might not be a good idea since some people havent seen it, and participating in a viewing thread with more experienced viewers might roon it for them. I am in no way saying that the normal discussion threads we've had here since season 1 are bad in anyway; I'm an active participant. I was answering that one question as to whether we should have a viewing thread, and you SEEMED to misinterpret what I was saying.

Now, since I've been forced to ponder whether my initial answer was correct, I would say Of Course It Is! with the addendum that perhaps there be 2 viewing threads; one for new viewers, and a second for vets, if any at all.

Again, this is not a comment on our usual discussion thread, this is a comment on the idea of a viewing thread. Over.

so someone posts, hey maybe the hatch is going to be a factor.
then we watch
and say nothing
then someone else who watches the show posts, i doubt it, i think locke is the one to keep our eyes on
then we shake our heads and tut

[Doctor Manhattan]

Someone posted that since SciFi is running the series from the beginning, should we do a viewing thread here? My thought was that might not be a good idea since some people havent seen it, and participating in a viewing thread with more experienced viewers might roon it for them.

I see, sorry about that. I think there should be a separate viewing thread for the Lost in 2.0 showings, this is a thread for Season 5, and there are separate ones for other seasons.

[Furtherman]

i dasn't be havin' a hatch but i do be havin' a patch

[K.C.]

bump for patsopinion.



Although, I'll also take this space to say I'm disappointed with the DHARMA game this year.

Nothing's really come it in almost two full months. It's just test.

Find 815 and Lost Experience were way better.

[KingGeno]

One of my fav moments on Lost came when Charlie was hung and was dead. The tense moment and the acting from Jack and Kate was really emotional and powerful. I'd go so far as say that it COULD make grown men cry. I'm not admitting anything though.

Pretty stoked about the new season though. No more flashbacks and flashforwards. Hope it doesn't change the dynamic of the show, but I like how they are doing new things.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Pretty stoked about the new season though. No more flashbacks and flashforwards. Hope it doesn't change the dynamic of the show, but I like how they are doing new things.

They are not stopping the Flashback's and Flashforwards on the show. They still have a lot to explore with Ben's past and they did say they will tell more of the story of Rousseau and her team featuring Montand losing his arm. Here a quote from Comic-Con 2008:
“We will say this: You will see definitively [learn] this year Rousseau’s story, but to use the word ‘flashback’ might be disingenuous. There will still be flashbacks and flash-forwards on the show, but we’re going to do something different this year.”

[Caseyelan]

In the time it stopped airing to the time it begins reairing....
I could have had another baby.


Just sayin.


I miss lost.

I saw that "claire" chick on something the other day and got so excited remembering her int he rocking chair with her/jack's pop in that cabin all freaky.

Shivers.

[Furtherman]

I saw that "claire" chick on something the other day and got so excited remembering her int he rocking chair with her/jack's pop in that cabin all freaky.


I just read that Claire won't be around this season, but she'll be back the following.

[KingGeno]

They are not stopping the Flashback's and Flashforwards on the show. They still have a lot to explore with Ben's past and they did say they will tell more of the story of Rousseau and her team featuring Montand losing his arm. Here a quote from Comic-Con 2008:

I just reread and it says that there will be less flashbacks and flashforwards for some of the main characters. Makes sense with Jack and kate and such. We know so much about them already.

Rumor is that Hurley has something big and different going on with him this season. I'm stoked to find out.

[dino_electropolis]

Just finished LOST Season 4 last nite....had not watched one episode until about 6 weeks ago, and just got hooked from the first episode. Plowed through 4 seasons in 6 weeks, and i cant imagine what its like having to wait one week between episodes (rather than just pushing NEXT on the Dvd)


Amazing series....locke in a casket:glurps::glurps:

[Patient zer0]

how did you see season 4? I've been waiting for it to come to dvd...

did you save them all on tivo? or do you have a site for me?

[dino_electropolis]

how did you see season 4? I've been waiting for it to come to dvd...

did you save them all on tivo? or do you have a site for me?

if you go to abc's website, you can watch all the seasons in HD with like one 20 sec commercial every 15 minutes.....

http://abc.go.com/player/index?pn=index

[Patient zer0]

thanks soooooo much! want a handy as a reward?

[K.C.]

So I watch A Tale Of Two Cities (the movie...not the Lost episode) over the weekend.

As I just mentioned, that was also the title of the first episode of Season 3, and really the overarching theme Season Three, in particular, in relation to the introduction of The Others.


I noticed some parallels and allusions between the two.

The Two Cities in the movie (or book) are London and Paris. The Others society represents Paris; a dissatisfied hierarchial society headed by a ruthless leader in Ben (drawing a correlation to Marquis St. Evremonde in the film), during a time of civil unrest and potential for uprising (Richard hints to Locke later in the season that there is a deep divide between Ben's philosophy and that of the rest of The Others. Both Richard's sect and the introduction of Locke as the potential leader of an uprising relate to the story of Paris in the film).

Jack and Kate are Charles Darnay and Lucie Manette. Jack, like Charles, has run from his destiny (Charles Darnay was a French noble and successor to Marquis St. Evremonde who fled Paris to start a new life).

Like Jack must return to the island, Charles returns to Paris during the revolution to try and help 'those he left behind.'....oddly enough, Jack has also left quite a few people behind, for which he bears guilt.

If Kate corresponds to Lucie, that makes Sawyer out to be Sydney Carton, a disaffected and disconnected man who cares for no one and nothing until he lays his eyes on Lucie.

It's important to note that while Carton professes his love for Lucie, Lucie never indicates similar feelings to Carton, and ultimately marries and devotes herself to Darnay.

Darnay is imprisoned upon his return to Paris and sentenced to death for being part of the nobility. Carton, wishing no harm or anguish to befall the woman he loves, and finding this as good a chance as he'll ever had to redeem himself and give his life meaning, trades places with Darnay allowing him to escape, and sacrifices himself.


Much of the show has born out similar to a lot of the character traits and plotlines of that film.

If we're to read in to it, Sawyer will ultimately sacrifice himself to save Jack and Kate in the midst of some cataclysmic uprising type of event on the island (it strikes me that the Widmore/DHARMA faction could correspond to the French nobility, and the Others to the proliteriate).


Anyway, it was fun to see the intertwining of the two.

The last thing I'd add in matching the two up is that the scene of Sawyer and Juliet at the end of last season sort of suggests that Juliet could be in the Marie Gabelle role. If that's the case, she will die with Sawyer on the island.

[WampusCrandle]

So I watch A Tale Of Two Cities (the movie...not the Lost episode) over the weekend.

As I just mentioned, that was also the title of the first episode of Season 3, and really the overarching theme Season Three, in particular, in relation to the introduction of The Others.


I noticed some parallels and allusions between the two.

The Two Cities in the movie (or book) are London and Paris. The Others society represents Paris; a dissatisfied hierarchial society headed by a ruthless leader in Ben (drawing a correlation to Marquis St. Evremonde in the film), during a time of civil unrest and potential for uprising (Richard hints to Locke later in the season that there is a deep divide between Ben's philosophy and that of the rest of The Others. Both Richard's sect and the introduction of Locke as the potential leader of an uprising relate to the story of Paris in the film).

Jack and Kate are Charles Darnay and Lucie Manette. Jack, like Charles, has run from his destiny (Charles Darnay was a French noble and successor to Marquis St. Evremonde who fled Paris to start a new life).

Like Jack must return to the island, Charles returns to Paris during the revolution to try and help 'those he left behind.'....oddly enough, Jack has also left quite a few people behind, for which he bears guilt.

If Kate corresponds to Lucie, that makes Sawyer out to be Sydney Carton, a disaffected and disconnected man who cares for no one and nothing until he lays his eyes on Lucie.

It's important to note that while Carton professes his love for Lucie, Lucie never indicates similar feelings to Carton, and ultimately marries and devotes herself to Darnay.

Darnay is imprisoned upon his return to Paris and sentenced to death for being part of the nobility. Carton, wishing no harm or anguish to befall the woman he loves, and finding this as good a chance as he'll ever had to redeem himself and give his life meaning, trades places with Darnay allowing him to escape, and sacrifices himself.


Much of the show has born out similar to a lot of the character traits and plotlines of that film.

If we're to read in to it, Sawyer will ultimately sacrifice himself to save Jack and Kate in the midst of some cataclysmic uprising type of event on the island (it strikes me that the Widmore/DHARMA faction could correspond to the French nobility, and the Others to the proliteriate).


Anyway, it was fun to see the intertwining of the two.

The last thing I'd add in matching the two up is that the scene of Sawyer and Juliet at the end of last season sort of suggests that Juliet could be in the Marie Gabelle role. If that's the case, she will die with Sawyer on the island.

wow, that was pretty damn insightful . . . A+ for you!

[TonyStark]

Wow, that's pretty insightful indeed. I that just about all makes sense though, especially the last part about Juliet, I can definitely see her staying behind for whatever reason and eventually dying.

[K.C.]

It also just crossed my mind that Kate uses the name Lucy (or Lucie) as one of her cover names in the episode she meets the chick that Sawyer knocked up and gets her to help make contact with Kate's mom.

Maybe another little hint.

I'll have to go back and see how some of the other literature mentioned throughout the show plays into it.

A Tale Of Two Cities may lend some insight to to the Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliet thing and how that may ultimately end up, but there's a bunch of other pieces of lit mentioned throughout the series.

The one that sticks in my mind is Our Mutual Friend by Charles Dickens...the book that Desmond is saving to read before he dies. I've never actually read that book. May be worth a look when I get a little bit.

[ChrisTheCop]

Our Mutual Friend, according to my literate budday, is Dickens' worst effort.
He tried to read it for the same reasons as yours, and said it was awful; worse than Bad Twin, the book the producers threw together that one of the passengers supposedly wrote.

[IamFogHat]

Our Mutual Friend, according to my literate budday, is Dickens' worst effort.
He tried to read it for the same reasons as yours, and said it was awful; worse than Bad Twin, the book the producers threw together that one of the passengers supposedly wrote.

Wow!

[KingGeno]

Embed blows. Trailer here, new to me. http://kissnation.961kiss.com/freakshow/blog/2008/10/22/first_lost_season_5_promo_released

[Furtherman]

Embed blows. Trailer here, new to me. http://kissnation.961kiss.com/freakshow/blog/2008/10/22/first_lost_season_5_promo_released

YESSSSSSSSSSSS.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Embed blows. Trailer here, new to me. http://kissnation.961kiss.com/freakshow/blog/2008/10/22/first_lost_season_5_promo_released

I can't wait to get the Season 4 DVD since I forgot half of that stuff happened.

[spadanko]

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[IamFogHat]

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Well great, now there's jizz everywhere.

[KingGeno]

Hurley with gun, jack digging/excavating a new hatch, sayid fighting with sun (or whom?), and a crashed plane on the island i don't remember seeing.

These half a year long waits are so goddamn angering.

[Furtherman]

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We don't know where the Island went -- but now know when we'll be seeing it again. ABC insiders say that the fifth season of the Emmy-nominated cypto-drama will premiere with a two-hour event on Jan. 21, 2009, at 8 p.m. That's a Wednesday, in case you don't know next year's calendar by heart, which means that Lost will be returning to its original day-of-the-week slot. (Last season, it aired on Thursday nights.) (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/11/losts-fifth-sea.html?xid=email-alert-lost-20081107-item1)

[Furtherman]

Jack Bauer’s Right-Hand Woman Finds Love on Lost (http://io9.com/5079927/jack-bauers-right+hand-woman-finds-love-on-lost)

As Michelle Dessler on 24, Reiko Aylesworth battled terrorists, nuclear threats, and office politics. Now she’s joining the cast of Lost, where she’s sure to get caught up in the intricate mysteries and conspiracies of the Island. But it seems her character will be less interested in unraveling those enigmas than in finding love with one of the castaways.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/11/aylesworth.jpg:wub:

[Furtherman]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/11/lost-1.jpg

[K.C.]

Jack Bauer’s Right-Hand Woman Finds Love on Lost (http://io9.com/5079927/jack-bauers-right+hand-woman-finds-love-on-lost)

As Michelle Dessler on 24, Reiko Aylesworth battled terrorists, nuclear threats, and office politics. Now she’s joining the cast of Lost, where she’s sure to get caught up in the intricate mysteries and conspiracies of the Island. But it seems her character will be less interested in unraveling those enigmas than in finding love with one of the castaways.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/11/aylesworth.jpg:wub:




Sawyer's new fuck buddy??? They've been teasing Sawyer/Juliet, but I think she's a goner five or six episodes in to this season.

[Doctor Manhattan]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2008/11/lost-1.jpg

Is that Desmond next to Hurley? Good to see. I was hoping he was going to remain a major part of the show despite having finally found Penny. (Okay, technically she found him)

[Aggie]

I can't wait the videos you posted b/c it's blocked at my job but did you see the music video/trailer they showed last night during Grey's?

It sounds like what Geno described below. It was set to a new song by the Fray and shows Jack and Kate heading back to the island with Ben standing by, Hurley with a gun, Sawyer and Juilet running away from something. It looked awesome! :clap:

[Furtherman]

Is that Desmond next to Hurley? Good to see. I was hoping he was going to remain a major part of the show despite having finally found Penny. (Okay, technically she found him)

I hope he stays with the show too. His character introduction was the beginning of what we saw the island can physically offer and then shortly after that, he didn't seem to have much to do, and I had figured he would be killed off.

But in Season 4, his storyline turned out to be one of the most enduring, and showed the... I'd say "heart" of the island and what it has to offer. I still feel the episode when he was jumping back in time trying to communicate with Penny is the best episode of the series so far.

[spadanko]

lost trailer flashes image
http://www.tvguide.com/News/New-Lost-Trailer-1000062.aspx

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http://www.ajiraairways.com/

[K.C.]

lost trailer flashes image
http://www.tvguide.com/News/New-Lost-Trailer-1000062.aspx

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http://www.ajiraairways.com/


Great video.

The spliced in quite a few of the new clips, too.

[Furtherman]

Another plane crash?

[K.C.]

Noticed three things from the video

At around 1:14, Sayid is strangling Jack to death.

At 2:05, Juliet is digging another hatch out of the ground.

At around 2:21, Charlotte looks at Daniel and has the same nose bleed thing going on that Desmond had during his near brain aneurysm episode. I wonder if she's experience the same time displacement thing???

[IamFogHat]

lost trailer flashes image
http://www.tvguide.com/News/New-Lost-Trailer-1000062.aspx

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http://www.ajiraairways.com/

I may be stupee, but as I started watching this, my reaction was 'I'm gonna write thanks for the fake out, but this is all reused shit,' but is there a third preview for season five that I missed, or did I just miss some shit that I absent mindedly thought didn't show up in the firs two?

[Furtherman]

Season 4 out on DVD next Tuesday. Just pre-ordered from Amazon.

Can't wait to watch it again!

[Aggie]

I finally started watching the series over again and I'm loving every minute of it. I never realized how much emphasis the put on Locke right from the beginning.

This is moving up as one of my all time favorite shows. CAN'T WAIT until January.

One thing I noticed though, in Claire's flashback in Season 1 they made such a big deal about the psychic and not giving her baby up for adoption because SHE had to raise Aaron and no one else could or it would be very bad. Well, Kate is raising him now. Will that play a part in next season? Just a thought.

[ChrisTheCop]

I finally started watching the series over again and I'm loving every minute of it. I never realized how much emphasis the put on Locke right from the beginning.

This is moving up as one of my all time favorite shows. CAN'T WAIT until January.

One thing I noticed though, in Claire's flashback in Season 1 they made such a big deal about the psychic and not giving her baby up for adoption because SHE had to raise Aaron and no one else could or it would be very bad. Well, Kate is raising him now. Will that play a part in next season? Just a thought.

That is a HUUUUGE part! The prophecy is being fulfilled--it is IMPERATIVE that they get that baby back into Claire's hands. Kate is gonna have to get some divine intervention that the baby's life is in danger for her to follow Jack back.

And, as you watch the previous seasons, youll find yourself saying, "wow, they really knew where they were going with this all along..." They didnt just throw out ep after ep...they were actually BUILDING something! Thats what makes this show so special.

[Furtherman]

One thing I noticed though, in Claire's flashback in Season 1 they made such a big deal about the psychic and not giving her baby up for adoption because SHE had to raise Aaron and no one else could or it would be very bad. Well, Kate is raising him now. Will that play a part in next season? Just a thought.

That is a HUUUUGE part! The prophecy is being fulfilled--it is IMPERATIVE that they get that baby back into Claire's hands. Kate is gonna have to get some divine intervention that the baby's life is in danger for her to follow Jack back.

A forewarning... I had read that Claire's story won't be revealed until Season 6... whereas she'll hardly even be in this season. We'll probably experience the whole WHY and HOW they get back to the island this season.

[K.C.]

I was thinking about this season a little bit more today, and I watch the music video to see some of the clips a couple more times.

And then this idea kind of dawned on me.

-We know how Ben got to the island; through DHARMA.

-Most people (at least that I've talked to) assume Richard is one of the original hostiles, because he never ages, and think he has been on the island more or less forever (there's been a lot of theories that the Hostiles were originally the slaves from the Black Rock ship that we saw in Season 1, and a couple times afterwards, I think).

-We know Juliet was specifically recruited.

But we never got a broader back story of how The Others were really put together, and where people like Tom, Mikhail, Ethan, Goodwin, Ms. Klugh, and some of the other people they trotted out in Season 2 and Season 3 got to be a part of that group.

Ben's goal after the 815 crash was to formulate lists of the survivors that they could bring into their society.

So I'm really starting to wonder, given the Ajira Airways logo in the music video, if the majority of The Others came to the island in an earlier plane crash, and that when the island disappeared, it reverted to a time either right before or right after that crash, and the people that the 815ers are fighting are really The Others before they became Others.

[TonyStark]

I was thinking about this season a little bit more today, and I watch the music video to see some of the clips a couple more times.

And then this idea kind of dawned on me.

-We know how Ben got to the island; through DHARMA.

-Most people (at least that I've talked to) assume Richard is one of the original hostiles, because he never ages, and think he has been on the island more or less forever (there's been a lot of theories that the Hostiles were originally the slaves from the Black Rock ship that we saw in Season 1, and a couple times afterwards, I think).

-We know Juliet was specifically recruited.

But we never got a broader back story of how The Others were really put together, and where people like Tom, Mikhail, Ethan, Goodwin, Ms. Klugh, and some of the other people they trotted out in Season 2 and Season 3 got to be a part of that group.

Ben's goal after the 815 crash was to formulate lists of the survivors that they could bring into their society.

So I'm really starting to wonder, given the Ajira Airways logo in the music video, if the majority of The Others came to the island in an earlier plane crash, and that when the island disappeared, it reverted to a time either right before or right after that crash, and the people that the 815ers are fighting are really The Others before they became Others.

You think that the others now went back in time to get Juliet to solve the reproductive problem so that they could ensure their future existed? That's very Terminator-esque.

[K.C.]

You think that the others now went back in time to get Juliet to solve the reproductive problem so that they could ensure their future existed? That's very Terminator-esque.

No, I think what I'm starting to think is more along the lines of:

-The Hostiles arrived on the island hundreds of years ago.

-The Island operates on a time loop from the time the Hostiles arrived (which I'm going to assume was some cataclysmic event) to whenever the time loop is either healed, or the island is destroyed.

-The Orchid allows the island to move to different points within the time loop (which explains why Richard never ages yet can appear in different places over the span of 50 years).

-Children can't be conceived on the island, because the island is not fixed in time, therefore it's impossible for a fetus to age properly and come to term.

-Ben's recruiting of Juliet was motivated out of something in his past (maybe he loses a child on the island?)


Ultimately, I think we're going to find out that people who previously died on the island, aren't really dead in the sense that we're familiar with, because the island is constantly bouncing through time.

I imagine at certain points, people are alive on the island, and at certain points they're dead.

For instance...say Locke wants Charlie to talk to Hurley in the future, like happened in the Season Premiere of last season. Locke can move the island to a point in the time loop where Charlie is still alive.

There's probably some parallel universe aspect to that, as well, because it's been previously stated that the past can't be altered.

Having a Future Locke approach a Past Charlie about talking to Future Hurley would inevitably alter the past.

So there has to be some intermediate place...some type of 'holding cell' universe, where it can happen without changing the past or the future.

[K.C.]

eek.

two sneaks peeks are up on the DarkUFO site right now, for the first episode. And I couldn't help myself...

All I can say is....FANTASTIC!

[Coach_Mac]

I am still wondering why the 815 people who got taken by the Others right after the crash got on board with them so quickly? The flight attendant for instance. They seem to fit right in as an "Other" as quickly as season 3 which is only within 2 or 3 months of crashing.

[PD]

No, I think what I'm starting to think is more along the lines of:

-The Hostiles arrived on the island hundreds of years ago.

-The Island operates on a time loop from the time the Hostiles arrived (which I'm going to assume was some cataclysmic event) to whenever the time loop is either healed, or the island is destroyed.

-The Orchid allows the island to move to different points within the time loop (which explains why Richard never ages yet can appear in different places over the span of 50 years).

-Children can't be conceived on the island, because the island is not fixed in time, therefore it's impossible for a fetus to age properly and come to term.

-Ben's recruiting of Juliet was motivated out of something in his past (maybe he loses a child on the island?)


Ultimately, I think we're going to find out that people who previously died on the island, aren't really dead in the sense that we're familiar with, because the island is constantly bouncing through time.

I imagine at certain points, people are alive on the island, and at certain points they're dead.

For instance...say Locke wants Charlie to talk to Hurley in the future, like happened in the Season Premiere of last season. Locke can move the island to a point in the time loop where Charlie is still alive.

There's probably some parallel universe aspect to that, as well, because it's been previously stated that the past can't be altered.

Having a Future Locke approach a Past Charlie about talking to Future Hurley would inevitably alter the past.

So there has to be some intermediate place...some type of 'holding cell' universe, where it can happen without changing the past or the future.

wow.

makes sense (or as much as my brain can hold)

[Furtherman]

OH SHIT.... great new promo!!

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[Doogie]

I went to the site where they tell you to listen to Lockes voice played backwards. It sounds like he is saying something along the lines of "Am I,, wiz..." Dont know how terribly pertinent this is to the next season. We shall see...

[JDE]

OH SHIT.... great new promo!!

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well from that preview, we now know why Kate goes back to the island.

[IamFogHat]

Get ready to jizz across so much of whatever room and/or pants you are in
http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2008/12/fantastic-season-5-promo-video.php#more

[spadanko]

OH SHIT.... great new promo!!

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holy fuck!

[LuisMoreno]

They need to stop making these online games and get cranking on some new episodes ....I want loooonger seasons bro.:furious:

[IamFogHat]

Fiscal restraints prevented me from getting it the day it came out, but I finally got season 4 of my favorite show, and let me reiterate Jimmy Norton in the fact that this show reduces me to a blubbering pile of tears, even in points where I'm not sure why.
Greatest show ever.

[PD]

damn.
I can't think of another show that gave you such anticipation

[Furtherman]

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[spadanko]

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hot damn!

[spadanko]

Premiere review!!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Review-Lost-Season-1001219.aspx


I am going to see if I can get this copy from my co-worker

[Furtherman]

I watched Season 4 again over the holidays. The only downside to a shorter amount of shows per season is that I went through it so fast - but I guess that will be better for the shows narrative.

One great highlight - the commentary track on "The Constant", my favorite episode so far. It was a difficult concept to put together but it worked so well.

One piece of information about Jeff Fahey - he was running an orphanage in Afghanistan when they contacted him to play the chopper pilot!!

Only three more weeks!

[Furtherman]

The excellent Lost column by Doc Jensen of Entertainment Weekly returns this week.

'Lost': Five Episodes With Clues for Season 5 (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20251960,00.html)

He lists 5 episodes to watch before the season as a "primer" for Season 5.

Excellent shows. I had almost forgot about 'Flashes Before Your Eyes" from season 3. Mrs. Hawking is a big clue!


He also has an excellent theory about two flash forward moments of last season. It's not a spoiler, but if you read the theory, I think you'll agree that it could be a direction the show is going.

[Doctor Manhattan]

...whose resurrection are we talking about?

My answer... is coming next week.

So we have to wait for the answer to his theory?

No thanks. I'll stick with the show and the official podcasts.

[JDE]

There is really good article in the NY Post today about the show, with comments from a couple of physics professors, including Jimmy's neighbor.

Here it is.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01182009/tv/lost_in_time_150492.htm

[K.C.]

Exactly two days from right now....Lost goodness returns to the airwaves.

[disneyspy]

Exactly two days from right now....Lost goodness returns to the airwaves.

FINALLY!!!!

[Ocho Cinco]

if someone else already said this i feel like an ahole. but doesn't make too much sense that widmore used to be the leader of the hostiles? he was def in charge the way ben was before and lock is now (before dying)

he told ben that he stole everything from him. keamy had the 2nd protocol saying to go to the orchid, obviously widmore knows where it is because it used to be his island. he would have been the one to cause the purge on the DI. and when he asks Ben if he's here to kill him and ben says he knows he can't, that's just like how ben couldn't kill locke when he shot him and he admits he knew it wouldn't work. and it explains why widmore wants back so bad .

haha sorry i've been watching every episode and every season of Lost nonstop getting ready for Wednesday, i am so fired up!

[ChrisTheCop]

Not a new theory Ocho, but it makes sense.

I've been bothered by the scene where we meet Daniel Faraday. He's watching the news and gets all panicked about the discovery of the wreckage of flight 815, and doesnt know why. A woman whose face we never see asks him whats wrong as she fixes his lunch. I always figured she'd turn out to be someone we know, and more and more I'm thinking it's Juliet. It makes zero sense time wise, because when he watches the news, she's on the island... but time wise doesnt seem to matter, does it?

In other news, this winter, I challenged a guy with no interest in Lost to watch season one; I promised I'd watch season 1 of his favorite show Prison Break. He ended up with the better end of the deal, as we all know, as I suffered thru that (which wasnt as god awful as i thought it would be, but after season 1 I was done with it), he has now watched season 2, has bought season 3 and is hoping to get thru season 4 in time to watch the season 5's he dvrs, in time for the season finale. One day this past week, he and his wife watched 11 hours straight of season 2!

There is so much to be said for watching Lost reruns, as things that didnt make sense do now... but I'm so looking forward to new mysteries tomorrow night!!!!!!

[Furtherman]

There is really good article in the NY Post today about the show, with comments from a couple of physics professors, including Jimmy's neighbor.

Here it is.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01182009/tv/lost_in_time_150492.htm

Great article.

I think this season will be a true test for fans. I for one can't f'n wait because I love the whole time travel scenario.

However, be prepared for some not to get it and listen to their bitching.

[Coach_Mac]

Great article.

I think this season will be a true test for fans. I for one can't f'n wait because I love the whole time travel scenario.

However, be prepared for some not to get it and listen to their bitching.

I can see that because up until the island moving, everything has been fairly rational (except the smoke monster) but now they are going to start stretching it. But I think if you've made it this far, you're going to love whatever they do. I know I will...unless it turns out to be some Indiana Jones alien skull thing....man, I'm still not over that.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Finally. More lost tonight...

[KingGeno]

I CANNOT wait! I am staying totally spoiler free for the rest of the show. I kinda spoiled myself for season 3 and four. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to myself.

[Coach_Mac]

I'm not going to lie, I'm getting giddy. I changed my sig pic to commemorate the day.

[dino_electropolis]

Up until august I hadn't watched one episode. Then, I watched all 4 seasons as quickly as I could bc u always need that fix!

Anyway, after watching 4 seasons straight w/o commercials or the week delay between episodes, I'm worried I may bust up my tv.

(Locke isn't dead, somehow those coma inducing spiders were used to fake his death)

[disneyspy]

man,i bowl on wednesdays and thanks to the show goin back to its old tomeslot i have to dvr,i'll stay out so dont use spoiler tags on my account,ill be the guy postin 4 hours the show

[Aggie]

I'm so damn excited! Especially because we have some new blood in this thread to discuss theories, episodes, etc. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :clap:

[disneyspy]

i wonder if locke can walk when hes not on the island,and i liked the spider idea,that makes since

[ChrisTheCop]

i wonder if locke can walk when hes not on the island,and i liked the spider idea,that makes since

except that the razzle dazzle girl didnt stay dead for as long as locke has.

[Coach_Mac]

The spider thing is interesting but if I remember correctly when the spider bit Paulo and what's her name- Gail I guess, they were only paralized for a few hours.

The time-loop stuff is the most interesting to me so I'm curious to see how that plays out.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

Here's a great Theory on Time Travel and the Island. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm)

[Aggie]

Here's a great Theory on Time Travel and the Island. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm)

This has been posted several times but I think the guy might update it was new episodes come out. It's interesting to say the least.

[Knowledged_one]

Does anyone remember the psychic telling claire no one else could raise her kid or bad things could happen, and now kate is raising her kid. I wonder if they will revisit this

[spadanko]

Does anyone remember the psychic telling claire no one else could raise her kid or bad things could happen, and now kate is raising her kid. I wonder if they will revisit this


Yup, that popped into my head last season. I always thought that Aaron is one of the most important characters

[JDE]

Here's a great Theory on Time Travel and the Island. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm)


It's interesting no doubt, but some of the stuff on there can not be correct.

The main thing is the year he has for Ben being born, he is older than that, it does not add up, plus him raising his daughter, again no way, he is the age this guy has him.


Because of that, I can't take everything else he writes all that seriously, but I am sure some of it, is probably close to a piece of the truth.



Jason

[spadanko]

People here at work have seen the first 3 episodes. (2 hours from tonight and next weeks) I passed on watching, but a couple of things

They seem to be going away from Flashback and flash forwards and doing something like Pulp fiction. out of order.

episode 1 is wacked, 2nd part brings it down and puts some stuff together. episode 3 at first seemed not that good, but after through was amazing.

that is what the editors here told me.

[PD]

I don't think I saw this on the dvr guide, but it seems there will be a clip / review show before the new episodes tonight.

I got this email:
Dear fellow Dharma recruits,

The fifth season premiere is only hours away. Be forewarned, we are hosting the clip show that proceeds it at 8/7 central.
With the show's imminent launch, it's been very busy here in the LOST offices. Last week we attended the TCA (Television Critics Association) press tour. We did a lot of interviews there, which you'll probably see this week, and we showed them episode three. (They'd already seen episodes one and two via ABC.)

We are also working on breaking the last five episodes, writing episodes twelve and thirteen, production is shooting eleven, we're editing seven, eight, nine and ten, and on the post end of things we are finishing the CG work, ADR, sound and mixing on episodes four, five and six.

So this is a round-about way of saying we didn't have a chance to prepare a video for you this week. We hope you'll understand. However, we will be back. In fact it's our hope to fire off to you guys a DSA video update about once a month as the season progresses.

We really appreciate your continued support, and we hope you enjoy the premiere.

With gratitude,

Damon and Carlton

[jimmyolsenblues]

i really hope ronnie watches tonight so we can listen to his recap and review and lost jokes.....
and they found another door.....

[K.C.]

It's so weird watching these Season 1 clips during the clip show.

Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly have aged terribly over the last five years.

Locke and Hurley look the same.

[PD]

i really hope ronnie watches tonight so we can listen to his recap and review and lost jokes.....
and they found another door.....

at end of their show, Anthony sounded excited about the return..

[PD]

It's so weird watching these Season 1 clips during the clip show.

Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly have aged terribly over the last five years.

esp if you watch now in HD.

[Drunky McBetidont]

here we go!!!

[Friday]

ok.
i'm in.

watching live and recording to DVR like a maniac.

fuckin Jersey Rich created a monster.

[Reephdweller]

It's on!!

[Friday]

i KNEW it!!! wheeeeee

[johnniehardrock]

Ginger Hahaha

[Doctor Manhattan]

Holy shit this is the wackiest Lost ever. I love it!

[PD]

"Maybe if you ate more comfort food, you wouldnt have to go around shooting people."

brilliant

[WampusCrandle]

holy shit, that was fucking intense. and i really like this Sayid/ Hurley duo.

[Doogie]

Sayid would be on my "Lost Team" if we were ever to create one of just 5 people on the team...

[PD]

Faraday is smaht.

[WampusCrandle]

Sayid would be on my "Lost Team" if we were ever to create one of just 5 people on the team...

oooooo - i like that game! who would be in your 5?

[PD]

damn i love this show.

[WampusCrandle]

wow....that sucks for Locke

[Doogie]

oooooo - i like that game! who would be in your 5?

Hmmm...I will give you two right now cause I really need to think about the other three. But I will go with Sayid and Mr. Eko. Two dudes that can fight, Eko has that almost "spiritual" contact with the island. Spiritual isnt necessarily good either, just someone that can almost see the "ghosts" or echoes of things on that island.

[BlackSpider]

Sayid would be on my "Lost Team" if we were ever to create one of just 5 people on the team...

Hmmm...I will give you two right now cause I really need to think about the other three. But I will go with Sayid and Mr. Eko. Two dudes that can fight, Eko has that almost "spiritual" contact with the island. Spiritual isnt necessarily good either, just someone that can almost see the "ghosts" or echoes of things on that island.

I'd take the people that own vaginas,
for my Lost team...

[Doogie]

I'd take the people that own vaginas,
for my Lost team...

Hence why I havent completed the list...I would pick a Shannon for a loose woman. But only for the fact that she is a little loose.

[IamFogHat]

Ok I got in from work late, I don't have dvr, I'm gonna watch online tomorrow, but so the rest of the episodes will make sense can someone please pm bullet point the important shit I missed to the 30 minute mark? Thanks.

[WampusCrandle]

Hmmm...I will give you two right now cause I really need to think about the other three. But I will go with Sayid and Mr. Eko. Two dudes that can fight, Eko has that almost "spiritual" contact with the island. Spiritual isnt necessarily good either, just someone that can almost see the "ghosts" or echoes of things on that island.

damn ... i gotta go with Kate ... mmmm. she climbs trees, tracks, good fighter, sexy, and we know she is good for a "fun time". Sayid, good fighter, knows technology, seeming worldly, and can track. Sun: sexy, can farm, fish, seemingly good with vegetation and botany, has some medical experience, and bilingual (i'ld say that is a plus), and unlimited resources, when off the island. now that i really think about it, i would really want Mr. Eko, personally, because i find that i am becoming a bit more religious, or at least more understanding of it, and his presence would be most welcome. plus, he is a crazy ass brother with a stick. and i NEED Hurley. i need comedy in my life and someone to keep me a bit level when things get tense.

my five: Kate, Sayid, Sun, Mr. Eko, Hurley

[WampusCrandle]

holy shit! look who's back! damn, i think i want to change my 5 now ....

[BlackSpider]

I called people with vaginas first...
Before my post, everybody wanted to take the men...

[Doogie]

holy shit! look who's back! damn, i think i want to change my 5 now ....

Exactly...I am super stoked about tonights episode and cant think straight right now. I just now the two definites on my team are Sayid and Eko. Eko cause he is the tragic flawed character who always try to do the right thing...even when he is doing bad (ie vicious drug dealer, lying as a priest).

Anna Lucia is a top pick for my 5. I liked her character. No definites right now for my last three

[K.C.]

Anyone get the feeling that Ben went through the exact same experience, being detached in time, as Locke is going through?

That would explain why he already knows everything.

[WampusCrandle]

Exactly...I am super stoked about tonights episode and cant think straight right now. I just now the two definites on my team are Sayid and Eko. Eko cause he is the tragic flawed character who always try to do the right thing...even when he is doing bad (ie vicious drug dealer, lying as a priest).

Anna Lucia is a top pick for my 5. I liked her character. No definites right now for my last three

if they have a Libby moment, I would be right as rain! She was damn hot, if anything, when she went from the Drew Carey Show to LOST years later she still looked cute.

[IamFogHat]

Ok I got in from work late, I don't have dvr, I'm gonna watch online tomorrow, but so the rest of the episodes will make sense can someone please pm bullet point the important shit I missed to the 30 minute mark? Thanks.

Or post it?!?!:wallbash::wacko:

[Doogie]

I know who I am definitely going to add to my team...Juliet. That chick has proven she is cold as ice, tough as nails and is still nice on the eyes. She wont hesitate to do something to survive and we have yet to see what is going to come out of her character yet.

My team thus far: Sayid, Eko, Juliet

[WampusCrandle]

oh shit, im guessing bye bye "yogurt"

[BlackSpider]

He wanted fire...

[hammersavage]

I hate retarded Steve Buscemi

[Friday]

He wanted fire...

haha ya had to kind of see that one coming... :D

[BlackSpider]

I hate retarded Steve Buscemi

isn't that an oxymoron...?

[K.C.]

haha ya had to kind of see that one coming... :D

That's what happens when the redshirts get uppity.

[WampusCrandle]

I know who I am definitely going to add to my team...Juliet. That chick has proven she is cold as ice, tough as nails and is still nice on the eyes. She wont hesitate to do something to survive and we have yet to see what is going to come out of her character yet.

My team thus far: Sayid, Eko, Juliet

what the hell is he up to again?

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/Lance_Reddick_06.jpg

[WampusCrandle]

im liking this glimpse of the dark side of Sun ... it's a bit of a turn on

[Doogie]

what the hell is he up to again?

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/Lance_Reddick_06.jpg

He is the harbringer of death...a speaker for the anti-christ.

See why I speak of it here: Revelations 9:3 (http://www.newadvent.org/bible/rev009.htm#verse11)

[WampusCrandle]

He is the harbringer of death...a speaker for the anti-christ.

See why I speak of it here: Revelations 9:3 (http://www.newadvent.org/bible/rev009.htm#verse11)

see i rewatched the entire series, except for season 4. so, i am like, dang. but still, what a great premiere!

so he is pretty much the angel of death - it's what we are lead to believe, yes?

[BlackSpider]

Friday the Thirteenth remake...

Doesn't anybody write anymore...?

[Doogie]

see i rewatched the entire series, except for season 4. so, i am like, dang. but still, what a great premiere!

so he is pretty much the angel of death - it's what we are lead to believe, yes?

No...he is the herald for the anti-christ. And that Anti-Christ is the "angel of death." Abbadon is merely a servant of that Anti-Christ. Abaddon is the spreader of heresies for the him. Where he goes the word that is anmathea to Christ and his teachings will follow. Where he goes heresy is spread. Where he goes death and destruction follow. Where he goes the end of time goes.

But there is redemption my son. There is redemption in the teachings of Jesus Christ our Lord and savior.



Wow...I got a little prophetic there. Anyways, I think Whidmore is the Anti-Christ character and Abaddon is just his herald. His servant.

[WampusCrandle]

hahaha, Hurley's defense is throwing hot pockets - gotta love him.

[Friday]

aaaah!

whaaaaaa?!

[WampusCrandle]

i like that the old jeweler is back, when she talked to Desmond i wished there was a bit more of her. i always felt that Fionnula Flanagan never had enough roles.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lost/images/3/30/FionnulaFlanagan.jpg

[BlackSpider]

i like that the old jeweler is back, when she talked to Desmond i wished there was a bit more of her. i always felt that Fionnula Flanagan never had enough roles.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lost/images/3/30/FionnulaFlanagan.jpg



Thank you,
I was gonna ask who that was, I forgot about her...

[K.C.]

This has certainly taken a strange turn.

Ben is now apart of this weird underground syndicate composed of the butcher, and the Ms. Hawkins (the name of the old lady).

Coincidentally, in one of the Desmond episodes, there's a picture of the lady standing outside of Oxford University, with the head monk of the monastery Desmond joined.

I wonder if that lady is Faraday's mother, that Desmond is suppose to find.

[WampusCrandle]

This has certainly taken a strange turn.

Ben is now apart of this weird underground syndicate composed of the butcher, and the Ms. Hawkins (the name of the old lady).

Coincidentally, in one of the Desmond episodes, there's a picture of the lady standing outside of Oxford University, with the head monk of the monastery Desmond joined.

I wonder if that lady is Faraday's mother, that Desmond is suppose to find.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/7/7f/Camhawk.jpg

a close up

[Gwen]

Anyone else notice in the "coming attractions" it looked like Penny was in labor.

Great, great premiere. I can't wait to watch it again tomorrow with my husband and watch his reactions.

[Dan 'Hampton]

What was up with the old ladys black eyes. Great episodes

[K.C.]

I've always kind of had the same core thoughts about the show, although with differing variations from time to time, but I'll still stand by the notion that everyone on Flight 815 was suppose to die in the plane crash, and ultimately, this will be corrected before the end of the series.

When Desmond did not push the hatch button, the day he killed Kelvin, the island became temporarily visible and thus broke the continuity of time (the 'string' as Daniel says).

Why Desmond did this...well, we know he's special to some degree, because he himself is not bound to time...I imagine it'll be explained in some manner as that.


Once that happened, though, everyone on 815, in a sense, broke from their predetermined fate, and thus have had the ability to operate outside of fate.

The problem is that changing their fate, in a sense could have a ripple effect that would fuck up future predetermined events, which as we know from the series is a scientific impossibility, with grave consequences. So, I'm sure that is the potentially cataclysmic event Ben is seeking to avoid by returning them to the island.

[instrument]

I really hope charlotte
packed a swimsuit.

[celery]

im liking this glimpse of the dark side of Sun ... it's a bit of a turn on

She's always had a dark side. She cheated on her husband and took over her father's company just to spite him.

She's not my favorite, but definitely one of the more interesting characters on the show.

[King Imp]

Glad to see Penny is back and will be part of the season. Me likely her. :wub:

Anyone ever do an unfiltered image search of the actress who plays Penny (Sonya Walger)? You won't be disappointed if you do. :thumbup:

[Pestz4Evah]

I wonder if that lady is Faraday's mother, that Desmond is suppose to find.

I was thinking the same thing!

[Doctor Manhattan]

Okay, so everyone in the radius is now traveling back and forth through time while the island is not (The camp was gone, because they had not made it yet, since they traveled to the past)

If they are moving through time and the island is not then where is the island? The Oceanic 6 saw it disappear.

Are they are all going though what Desmond went through in "The Constant" being unstuck in time and will die unless they have a constant? With Charlotte's nose bleed that would appear to be what's happening. Right after the first move Locke saw Eko's plane crash into the trees in the past, then went to the future (Eko's plane now upside down on the ground) where Richard helped him with his leg and told him he had to die to bring the Oceanic 6 back to the island, then the island moved again Eko's plane is back in the trees with the propellers still moving, so that suggests the island is moving between 2 points in time like Desmond did in "The constant" (between 1996 and 2004)

Richard and the others are not moving through time despite being in the radius. Juliet is moving though time, so does that mean only the island natives are not unstuck in time? Don't they have other people who were recruited like Juliet? What about Cindy, the flight attendant from Flight 815, Zack and Emma (the kids taken from the tale section) and other people who have recently joined the others? Are they unstuck in time as well? Locke seemed to be alone when the island moved. Were all the others are time time just natives (if that is what Richard is, I guess we don't really know yet)

[Furtherman]

i like that the old jeweler is back, when she talked to Desmond i wished there was a bit more of her. i always felt that Fionnula Flanagan never had enough roles.

Re-watch 'Flashes Before Your Eyes' from Season 3 and you'll get an idea of how important she is to the story.



This season is going to be awwwwwwwwsome.

[Aggie]

Wow, I am more excited than ever about this show. I kept yelling at my TV last night, "no way! holy shit! that's crazy!" at different times throughout the episodes.

There was so much going on I can't even concentrate on a single point. I was just so happy watching it. Was the compass Richard gave Locke the one he picked out when he was a child? I'm pretty sure it was, just confirming.

[Piuki]

I also wondered if the old lady was going to turn out to be Faraday's mother.

The one question that I had about last night's episode concerns Sun and Jin's daughter. When Sun sees Kate in LA, she shows her a picture of an infant, but based on Aaron's age, she should be about 3 years old. It may turn out to be nothing, but most moms tend to carry more recent pictures of their children. It just made me wonder if something happens to the baby? Sun tells Kate that the baby is with "her grandmother in Seoul", but maybe there's more to the story than that.

[WampusCrandle]

She's always had a dark side. She cheated on her husband and took over her father's company just to spite him.

She's not my favorite, but definitely one of the more interesting characters on the show.

yeah, but threatening to do something (telling Jin's mother to never come near Jin or her again), and then telling someone like Kate to "take care" of someone, i believe shows a deeper look into a darker side of her than we have seen before.

[disneyspy]

loved the first eppy,seemed liked it started more questions than gave answers.maybe richard was a sailor and the blackrock was his constant,he seems to have been thru the time shifts before,maye all of the hostiles are survior/time shifters.and maybe the island needs a certain amount of people on it to stable.the survivors or 8/15 may have been the same # of people killed in the dharma extintion and the island needed more people to replace them.might also explain why babies and moms dont make it,the island just wants survivors

[instrument]

Of course there's more to the story, I get the feeling that sun had something to do with the lawyers showing up at kate's.

Just too coincidental her showing up like that.

And the island must be moving through more than 2 points in time due to what alperth told locke about not knowing him the next time.

[drusilla]

I also wondered if the old lady was going to turn out to be Faraday's mother.

The one question that I had about last night's episode concerns Sun and Jin's daughter. When Sun sees Kate in LA, she shows her a picture of an infant, but based on Aaron's age, she should be about 3 years old. It may turn out to be nothing, but most moms tend to carry more recent pictures of their children. It just made me wonder if something happens to the baby? Sun tells Kate that the baby is with "her grandmother in Seoul", but maybe there's more to the story than that.

both are interesting theory's. i was also wondering if the old lady was faraday's mother.

& sun did say that the picture was a baby picture, but you've got me thinking...

[drusilla]

Of course there's more to the story, I get the feeling that sun had something to do with the lawyers showing up at kate's.

Just too coincidental her showing up like that.



maybe it was jack

[Furtherman]

It was great to see Anna Lucia. I'm still pissed off they killed her!

A Mr. Echo cameo would be great to see as well.

[WampusCrandle]

It was great to see Anna Lucia. I'm still pissed off they killed her!

A Mr. Echo cameo would be great to see as well.

another Anna Lucia cameo, a Mr. Eko, and a Libby cameo would be most appreciated by ME.

[Don Stugots]

maybe it was jack


I was thinking that it was either her or ben.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Of course there's more to the story, I get the feeling that sun had something to do with the lawyers showing up at kate's.

Just too coincidental her showing up like that.

maybe it was jack

Sun and Jack already know who Aaron is (they both delivered him in Season 1) and I don't think either would want to involve other people and risk exposing the lie. I don't think Ben either, he wants to keep the island a secret from the world too.

I bet it was:
http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/Lance_Reddick_06.jpg
He tried to find out from Hurley if "they" were still alive, he's still digging for information.

And the island must be moving through more than 2 points in time due to what alperth told locke about not knowing him the next time.


That is right, and since Richard knew about Locke since Locke was a kid, the island must be going to move to a time way in the past (before the 1950's). I can't wait to see that meeting.

So this island moving through time is probably not the same thing that Desmond went through, but I am sure it is related.

[disneyspy]

I was thinking that it was either her or ben.

of course it was ben manipulatin stuff behind the scenes,hes ben,theyre all in LA for a reason...

[Aggie]

maybe it was jack
Doubt it was Jack.

Ben is a logical choice.

I'm thinking it's Widmore, a way to force his hand on Kate to tell him what he wants to know possibly? Who else would have the influence to get a warrant for her blood with no reason? Either Ben or Widmore.

[ChrisTheCop]

Doubt it was Jack.

Ben is a logical choice.

I'm thinking it's Widmore, a way to force his hand on Kate to tell him what he wants to know possibly? Who else would have the influence to get a warrant for her blood with no reason? Either Ben or Widmore.

Ben is my guess. Remember last season Jack told Ben that Kate wont even talk to him, and Ben says, "Well maybe I can help you with that." Kate's first thought for help was to call Jack, so she's already weakened her defense, as Ben knew she would.

Sun talked to her kid on the phone before she confronted Widmore last season, so I think the kid's ok. I may be over simplifying, but maybe it was a baby pic because they havent found the actor to play her later in the season? Or next season? Theyve had problems with kids growing up too fast in the past.:wink:

And Aggie, I'm with you again! I was just so thrilled to see new Lost I was standing up, sitting, laying, laughing, just so excited that it was happening and it didnt suck! I really have to watch it again to get my theories on. lol.

70 hours to get Hurley out of jail? I smell a crossover with Michael Scofield!!

[instrument]

Weird that alperth gave him one of the items he asked locke to pick from......

Wonder if after you leave the island if when you leap through time maybe its more like quantum leap.

Or will it stop all together?

[Doctor Manhattan]

I'm thinking it's Widmore, a way to force his hand on Kate to tell him what he wants to know possibly? Who else would have the influence to get a warrant for her blood with no reason? Either Ben or Widmore.


But Widmore already knows that the Oceanic Six were lying. Sun talked to him about it during Season 4.

The lawyers were from "Agostini & Norton" I've been trying to figure out if that is a clue.

One other thing: Daniel Faraday was there when the Orchid station was being built next to the frozen donkey wheel, in the early to mid 1970's but looks the same as does in 2004.

[Furtherman]

The lawyers were from "Agostini & Norton" I've been trying to figure out if that is a clue...

Could be.... here is a theory....


The Island's great debate (supernatural possibilities vs. naturalistic explanations -- trust us, the cartoon pooch figures into this too) resumes in season 5, and the Doc wants to know which side you're on. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612_20245769_20253740,00.html)

If you're choosing not to watch in order to preserve the experience of tonight's premiere, I applaud your restraint. But allow me to make two non-spoilery Doc Jensen observations. The name of Dan Norton's law firm, Agostini & Norton, links neatly to one Lodovico Agostini, whom Wikipedia describes as ''an Italian composer, singer, priest, and scholar of the late Renaissance.'' Agostini was a daring musician who lived during a time where daring music was all the rage. Sounds like Lost, a cutting edge show during a time of cutting edge shows. According to Wikipedia, ''Agostini was fond of musical enigmas, puzzles, surprise and double-entendre ... and bizarre chromatic progressions.'' That sounds like Lost to me, too.

As for ''Dan Norton,'' that happens to be the name of a comic book artist whose credits include work on an upcoming feature film Science Ninja Team Gatachaman. Apparently it's based on an anime series about young heroes who battle bad robots and evil science conspiracies that seek to control and exploit the Earth's natural resources. I am certain this has something to do with Lost. Especially the bad robot part.

[Aggie]

But Widmore already knows that the Oceanic Six were lying. Sun talked to him about it during Season 4.

The lawyers were from "Agostini & Norton" I've been trying to figure out if that is a clue.

One other thing: Daniel Faraday was there when the Orchid station was being built next to the frozen donkey wheel, in the early to mid 1970's but looks the same as does in 2004.

I know Widmore knows they're lying. I was suggesting he was going to use the information of Kate not being Aaron's mom to use her to try and find the island again which is his ultimate goal and Kate is connected to the only people likely to find it again. I'm probably wrong though.

[Coach_Mac]

It was great to see Anna Lucia. I'm still pissed off they killed her!



Not for me, I thought she was the most annoying character.





One other thing: Daniel Faraday was there when the Orchid station was being built next to the frozen donkey wheel, in the early to mid 1970's but looks the same as does in 2004.

I got the impression that he showed up at the Orchid while he was skipping back in time. It's obvious the island is jumping back and forth from either near- present time or the future and the year when Echo's brother crashed, which I don't think was too long ago. But maybe the island starts jumping to different times and one of them in when they are building the Orchid. My guess is when we see Farady it's a flash forward that will be revealed later.

However, Miles let us know that Charlotte has been to the island before so maybe Farady has too and he really was there at the time it was being built.

[Furtherman]

However, Miles let us know that Charlotte has been to the island before so maybe Farady has too and he really was there at the time it was being built.

The baby in the opening scene was probably Charlotte.

[Coach_Mac]

The baby in the opening scene was probably Charlotte.

Dr. Marvin Candle's daughter?

[WampusCrandle]

The baby in the opening scene was probably Charlotte.

but Charlotte is a red head, yes? the baby didn't seem to look of Euro-caucasian decent, but i could be wrong. I do believe that it is Pierre Chang (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Because_You_Left).

[Furtherman]

Not everyone on the island raised their own children.

[Piuki]

I may be over simplifying, but maybe it was a baby pic because they havent found the actor to play her later in the season? Or next season? Theyve had problems with kids growing up too fast in the past.:wink:



This thought crossed my mind as well.

[Coach_Mac]

help was to call Jack, so she's already weakened her defense, as Ben knew she would.

Sun talked to her kid on the phone before she confronted Widmore last season, so I think the kid's ok. I may be over simplifying, but maybe it was a baby pic because they havent found the actor to play her later in the season? Or next season? Theyve had problems with kids growing up too fast in the past.:wink:

That could be true but it seems that in the past the writers of the show have paid attention to details like that. The Walt thing is strting to come together because it seems that time is moving faster (or at least always moving forward) off the island.

I think the pic being a baby is a good observation. I didn't think about that.

[drusilla]

but Charlotte is a red head, yes? the baby didn't seem to look of Euro-caucasian decent, but i could be wrong. I do believe that it is Pierre Chang (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Because_You_Left).


yeah, the baby looked half asian. charlotte doesn't look that way at all.

[spadanko]

Couldn't the baby be the Ghostbuster?

[spadanko]

So, some of you know I work for tvguide.com. One of the editors offered me the screener for the next episode. I am not sure if I want to take it. I kinda like waiting like everyone else to watch. What do you guys think?

[drusilla]

i'd wait. you can't talk to anyone about it for a whole week anyways.

[WampusCrandle]

yeah, the baby looked half asian. charlotte doesn't look that way at all.

no, she don't look asian at all.

[WampusCrandle]

So, some of you know I work for tvguide.com. One of the editors offered me the screener for the next episode. I am not sure if I want to take it. I kinda like waiting like everyone else to watch. What do you guys think?

all i know is that i'm fucking jealous .... but i would wait.

[disneyspy]

just noticed that ben looks like a grown up toby maguire,that weird bug eyed insane look

[Coach_Mac]

just noticed that ben looks like a grown up toby maguire,that weird bug eyed insane look

Please don't make me see Toby McGuire when I look at Ben.

I'm probably the last one to realize that Farady was Opham or Upham or whatever from Saving Private Ryan. And I know it's obvious I just never put it together.

[Aggie]

just noticed that ben looks like a grown up toby maguire,that weird bug eyed insane look

I didn't notice that but I was distracted by his makeup and how groomed he was. I like dirty, beat up Henry Gale better than metrosexual Ben.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I know Widmore knows they're lying. I was suggesting he was going to use the information of Kate not being Aaron's mom to use her to try and find the island again which is his ultimate goal and Kate is connected to the only people likely to find it again. I'm probably wrong though.

that is a good point. It might just be Widmore.

[instrument]

So what happens when someone who is moving through time leaves the island?

Did bentham contine to jump through time? Is the next time he sees alperth gonna be when he was a kid?

Was alperth looking for locke as a child?
Or is the compass jjust coincidentally an item presented to him previously?

And if farraday insists the future can't be changed, why is it that desmond is consistently able to?

[JDE]

Here is something to consider in regards to who put the attourneys on Kate, maybe someone contacted Claire's mother and told her that her grandson was alive.


Probably not, but everyone else has throw the names out there, and this is the obvious one, not yet mentioned.


Jason

[WampusCrandle]

Here is something to consider in regards to who put the attourneys on Kate, maybe someone contacted Claire's mother and told her that her grandson was alive.


Probably not, but everyone else has throw the names out there, and this is the obvious one, not yet mentioned.


Jason

my bet is on Jack. Jack is blood related to Aaron. Jack also wants everyone back, and a we know that Kate doesn't want to go back. Her new love for Aaron seems really strong. My thinking is that Jack will be able to get Aaron and use him as a tool to get Kate to go back to the island.

[K.C.]

Ben is a logical choice.

I'm thinking it's Widmore, a way to force his hand on Kate to tell him what he wants to know possibly? Who else would have the influence to get a warrant for her blood with no reason? Either Ben or Widmore.

I say Ben. I don't see the motive for Widmore to do it. Kate can't help him find the island.


One other thing: Daniel Faraday was there when the Orchid station was being built next to the frozen donkey wheel, in the early to mid 1970's but looks the same as does in 2004.

That's because he jumps there at one point, that we probably haven't seen yet. And that seems to be the theme of the season. They're going to skip around what they show of the story, like the island, instead of traditional flash forwards and flash backs.

Faraday is also 'special' in the same sense as Desmond is, I believe. Remember, he exposed himself to the same radiation back during his Oxford days.

The baby in the opening scene was probably Charlotte.

Meh...I think it's safe to say that she's the child of someone of the DHARMA initiative.

I'm not sure she's THAT baby, though.

Although there are enough references to suggest it, though... Perhaps Chang even used her as part of a DHARMA experiment while she was a child, that altered her.

Couldn't the baby be the Ghostbuster?

I don't get that sense.

So what happens when someone who is moving through time leaves the island?

Did bentham contine to jump through time? Is the next time he sees alperth gonna be when he was a kid?

Was alperth looking for locke as a child?
Or is the compass jjust coincidentally an item presented to him previously?

And if farraday insists the future can't be changed, why is it that desmond is consistently able to?

It would appear they're skipping because of the island. This is different then when Desmond was tripping through time.

Desmond, himself was moving...I think the island is moving this time around, which is why Ms. Hawkings looked like she was trying to locate it during the end of the second episode.

The island physically skipping also explains the 70 hour window.


And Desmond has never changed the future.

Here is something to consider in regards to who put the attourneys on Kate, maybe someone contacted Claire's mother and told her that her grandson was alive.


I don't buy that.

[K.C.]

The kid of the DHARMA guy is a male.

So it's not Charlotte.

He quickly says it in the Comic-Con video from last summer.

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[disneyspy]

im watchin the season premier again,daniel day kim is listed on the cast,jins not dead!

[ChrisTheCop]

im watchin the season premier again,daniel day kim is listed on the cast,jins not dead!

although I agree with you in theory, because we never saw him die, he's probably not dead...
just cause someone's in the credits doesnt mean theyre "alive"...Michelle Rodriguez was also in the credits.

[K.C.]

although I agree with you in theory, because we never saw him die, he's probably not dead...
just cause someone's in the credits doesnt mean theyre "alive"...Michelle Rodriguez was also in the credits.

I gotta disagree.

He's so, so, so, so very dead. The freighter wreckage didn't go with the island, and you pretty much see exactly where he was standing on the helicopter pad explode.

That said, I believe he'll turn up on the island more than once. And we'll probably get a final little Jin/Sun scene before the end, I would imagine.

[K.C.]

And the much more interesting question is whether Locke is really dead.

I can't be the only one who made a mental note when Jack flat out asked Ben if he was really dead, and Ben just glance at him, and then walked away.

[donnie_darko]

locke's not dead.

and the baby has black hair, i'd bet the baby was probably miles, miles seems to believe he has some insight on the island.

And desmond has changed "the future" he apparently saved charlies life quite a few times, also if desmond had met farraday while he was in the army, he would've recognized him outside of the hatch.

I think most people assume that sun blames ben for blowing up the ship....but there's no way for sun to know he had anything to do with the ships explosion.... and jack has stated that she blames him for the explosion, so why not believe sun is working with widmore and has told him that kate isn't Erin's mother.

And seeing the orchid station built, i'm interested in seeing wtf happened to it..

Also when exactly US military were present on the island and for what reason... maybe thats where the army issue knife came from?