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Judge Smails
06-18-2008, 06:14 AM
and how is this even possible with satellite?

I used to think it was just my cheap-ass Roady 2 but then I got an inno and I seem to have the same problem. Not so much in the car where it works fine about 99% of the time. However, sometimes around the house, or in the backyard, other XM stations will come in as soon as I go to them but 202 will often give me a "Loading" or "No Signal" or "Antenna" message and can sometimes take as much as a minute or more to come in.

Again, it's only a problem with 202 and all the other stations seem to work fine. Anyone else have this issue?

Cleophus James
06-18-2008, 06:19 AM
the strength of 202 individually is equal to all the other stations. The quality of the station is dependent on the bandwidth XM give to the station. But if you don't get 202, the others should have issues too. Make sure you have a clear shot to the satellite.

I think.

KnoxHarrington
06-18-2008, 04:33 PM
Is it when you first tune in, and then it's fine?

What I think is happening is this: half the stations are sent from one transponder, half from another. Both satellites send two signals, and each terrestrial repeated also sends two signals.

So what I think is going on is that you're listening to the lower-numbered stations, like a music station. Then you switch over to 202, thus having to change transponders. Your attenna is not positioned to easily get a signal from that one, so there's issues tuning in. Just try moving it around.

midwestjeff
06-18-2008, 04:48 PM
The XM signal in Nashville rules.
I can finally walk around with my MyFi and get a live signal.
So, face, I guess. :ohmy:

MadMatt
06-18-2008, 04:55 PM
and how is this even possible with satellite?

I used to think it was just my cheap-ass Roady 2 but then I got an inno and I seem to have the same problem. Not so much in the car where it works fine about 99% of the time. However, sometimes around the house, or in the backyard, other XM stations will come in as soon as I go to them but 202 will often give me a "Loading" or "No Signal" or "Antenna" message and can sometimes take as much as a minute or more to come in.

Again, it's only a problem with 202 and all the other stations seem to work fine. Anyone else have this issue?

I have had similar issues with 202, but like you I do not know why. It doesn't make sense that the signal would be weaker, but there is definitely something going on.

Chimee
06-18-2008, 05:10 PM
I've noticed that 202 will often drop off at random times then bounce right back. I've never had this problem with any of the other channels, though.

Judge Smails
06-18-2008, 05:11 PM
Here's something weird that happens from time to time and just happened this week during Dave's Tequilla drinking show. I was listening to the show and the buddays went to commercial. At some point during the commercial break my Roady 2 must have lost the signal for 202 and jumped to channel 1 or 0 (whichever channel runs the nonstop XM commercials).

I didn't realize this happened so I just kept listening. After about 10 minutes I thought to myself "Goddamn this is a long commercial break they're taking!" I thought something might have happened so I came on hear to see what other people were thinking in the listening thread, only to find that they were commenting on the show that I was missing.

So, I was definitely still getting the XM signal, but when I tried to go on 202 again I could not get it. Seeing as I had missed so much of the show already I just gave up on the Roady 2 and switched to listening online.

PapaBear
06-18-2008, 05:54 PM
Here's something weird that happens from time to time and just happened this week during Dave's Tequilla drinking show. I was listening to the show and the buddays went to commercial. At some point during the commercial break my Roady 2 must have lost the signal for 202 and jumped to channel 1 or 0 (whichever channel runs the nonstop XM commercials).

I didn't realize this happened so I just kept listening. After about 10 minutes I thought to myself "Goddamn this is a long commercial break they're taking!" I thought something might have happened so I came on hear to see what other people were thinking in the listening thread, only to find that they were commenting on the show that I was missing.

So, I was definitely still getting the XM signal, but when I tried to go on 202 again I could not get it. Seeing as I had missed so much of the show already I just gave up on the Roady 2 and switched to listening online.
I've had that happen once or twice. I mostly listen to recorded xm, and pause it when I get out of my car, so as not to miss anything, or offend passers-by with the extreme language. When I listen live though, I have to be more careful. If I hit the pause/mute button, and something like a tree briefly interrupts the signal, the mute will be deactivated. I've come back to my car with families with children near my car, and O&A are being, well... Being O&A.

OGC
06-18-2008, 07:36 PM
I get this problem quite a bit with 202 and some of the other talk stations. I think that the music stations are "broadcast" on both of XM's active satellites while some of the talk channels are only broadcast on one of them.

When I do the "207" trick to check the signal strength from each satellite, most of the time 202 is only being received from one of them , whereas the music channels show a signal from both.

What this means to me is that 202's signal is less forgiving if you don't have your antenna pointed properly or if you are in your car and go under a bridge or around a building. If one of the music channels loses it's signal from one of the satellites, it compensates with the signal from the other one.

Does this make any sense ?

Judge Smails
06-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Does this make any sense ?

It's better than anything I could come up with. I'm just glad to hear that I'm not the only one.

oldladyfacepuncher
06-19-2008, 05:16 AM
Here's something weird that happens from time to time and just happened this week during Dave's Tequilla drinking show. I was listening to the show and the buddays went to commercial. At some point during the commercial break my Roady 2 must have lost the signal for 202 and jumped to channel 1 or 0 (whichever channel runs the nonstop XM commercials).

I didn't realize this happened so I just kept listening. After about 10 minutes I thought to myself "Goddamn this is a long commercial break they're taking!" I thought something might have happened so I came on hear to see what other people were thinking in the listening thread, only to find that they were commenting on the show that I was missing.

So, I was definitely still getting the XM signal, but when I tried to go on 202 again I could not get it. Seeing as I had missed so much of the show already I just gave up on the Roady 2 and switched to listening online.

I have this exact problem all the time. It's really annoying. Only 202 suddenly changes to 1. I'll just get a No Signal on any other channel. The best is when my nexus freezes up on "Loading" and I'll have to pull the plug on it.

angrymissy
06-19-2008, 05:45 AM
Don't the talk stations get less bandwith than the music stations?

OGC
06-19-2008, 05:47 AM
I gave my MyFi a test this morning on the drive in to work. The things I said in my previous post aren't totally correct. Channel 202 does get its signal from both active satellites, just like the music channels, but it seems that 202 is more likely to lose the signal from one of them than the music channels are.

I am now sitting in my office at work which has a window that faces north. My myfi is set up with the "home antenna" pointed out a skylight window facing south. Listening to 202, I am getting a perfect signal from SAT2, and zero signal from SAT1 and TERR (ground repeaters). When I switch channels to Deep Tracks (xm40) I get a perfect signal from both SAT1 and SAT2 and zero from TERR . I don't know why there should be a difference in signal strengths by just changing the channel. The antenna is not moving at all. :wallbash:

K.C.
06-19-2008, 08:41 AM
the strength of 202 individually is equal to all the other stations. The quality of the station is dependent on the bandwidth XM give to the station. But if you don't get 202, the others should have issues too. Make sure you have a clear shot to the satellite.

I think.

I don't know about the actual satellite signal, but the FM tuner in the Inno has an issue with 202.

For whatever reason, it seems like it almost transmits more weakly to to the FM airwave, because I pick up static from the empty FM frequency, as well as weak volume levels (which could just be Earl in the studio).

Yet if I switch to XM Home Plate, or some of the music channels at the same time, it's perfect.

Patient zer0
06-20-2008, 04:52 AM
i placed a call to neo, neo said he'd talk to morpheus and work it out with the matrix.

face