2009 NHL Offseason Discussion

[denko]

how do i get that?

[styckx]

20.00 bucks, hockeystreams.com gets you all HD streams of all the games for the playoffs.

View there or copy/paste stream url in vlc/media player..

[Freakshow]

And Varlamov doesn't even know English.....jokes on Avery

aparently Varlamov speaks pretty good English--better than Semin even. But is super paranoid of being misquoted so he only speaks to the press through an interpreter.

How about these numbers, though. .982 save percentage, .5 GAA, and 56 saves in 2 games, including his first career shutout. Even if he's just decent from now on things will be looking up...

[denko]

i couldn't have been more wrong about detroit... they are fucking steamrolling columbus.

thomas has been playing great too. he pissed me off all year but he is getting it done so far.

[styckx]

Fleury is a brick wall tonight. Flyers are on their game, retarded amount of scoring chances but can't get one past that fucker..

NJ getting shut out is fantastic though.

[denko]

wow, the guys on versus just used the word steamrolling in reference to the wings and blue jackets at least 3 times.

[styckx]

The ending to the Devils/Carolina game was one of the best endings I've seen in hockey in ages.

Bonus awesome for baby Marty having a hissy fit about it.

[keithy_19]

The ending to the Devils/Carolina game was one of the best endings I've seen in hockey in ages.

Bonus awesome for baby Marty having a hissy fit about it.

I wasn't able to see the game. What exactly happened?

[TheGameHHH]

I wasn't able to see the game. What exactly happened?

i dont know if youre being serious, but if you are.....you dont wanna know

[keithy_19]

i dont know if youre being serious, but if you are.....you dont wanna know

I didn't see the game. I saw the highlights and all I can say is BULLSHIT.

Brodeur doesn't dive. He keeps his head. They've been crashign into him all the time this series. Where are th calls. That game shoulda went into ot. The refs are atrocious.

[HBox]

The explanation from the refs was even more atrocious. They said he had enough time to recover. First of all, you can knock around a goalie at will with no penalty? News to me. Second of all, they timed it on the post game. It was less than 2 seconds between the hit and when the shot passed him. Fucking assholes.

[keithy_19]

The explanation from the refs was even more atrocious. They said he had enough time to recover. First of all, you can knock around a goalie at will with no penalty? News to me. Second of all, they timed it on the post game. It was less than 2 seconds between the hit and when the shot passed him. Fucking assholes.

Two of those girls were due to goalie interference. Brodeur doesn't lose his cool like that. That's the frustration of being hit constantly with no consequence for the other team.

Also, if the Devils play like they are capable of (ie: the first game of the series and from the time they scored thir first in this game till a little after they tied it up) they can dominate the Hurricanes. They need to bring it all the time. I hope this fiasco with Brodeur brings it out of them.

[styckx]

Are you serious? Marty was way out of his crease and initiated the contact. He then acted like he got shot in the chest with a shotgun, noticed someone was about to unleash on him and got down.

Goalies who leave the crease get exactly what they deserve if there is incidental contact.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/styckx/marty.jpg

^ Stay in the crease.

[Donnie Iris]

In reference to Fleury....




Do I think it'd be a crazy thought that they win a Cup with a lesser goalie due to all that offense? Not at all ... see Edmonton Oilers and Grant Fuhr. Tie in the fact that Crosby gets calls like Jordan in his prime and you've got yourself a lot of possibility.

However, I'll call it right now. If in fact you do win the Cup, your D/Goalie won't be why. If it happens be ready for some crazy offensive games. This doesn't mean the score has to be very high, just that his O in front will control games and he won't have to be the answer.

No, it didn't. He only has to sit back and pile up wins bc of a great offense. Just as your fate was last year, so it will happen again. When the things tighten up you have to fall back on a whiny player who could be so much better and a highly overrated goaltender. With the O talent of Malkin it's a shame too. Still, outside of Orpik your d is a group of O minded pussies.




FAIL

[DrDrew319]

As a diehard ranger fan and someone that hates the devils, that was bullshit. Good for Brodeur for flipping out.

[disneyspy]

why are you people still debatin teams other than the redwings? after last nights 4-1 blowout you should be discussin the dominance of the the greatest team in modern day hockey,the red wings are awesome,will win the cup again and the other teams just have to settle for second best,again

[PhishHead]

GVAC for all your Red Wings love, you saying they will get beat broke my heart and I am glad they are destroying Columbus. Another Stanley Cup for the Red Wings WOOHOO!!!

[disneyspy]

GVAC for all your Red Wings love, you saying they will get beat broke my heart and I am glad they are destroying Columbus. Another Stanley Cup for the Red Wings WOOHOO!!!

yes! thats more like it,lets turn this into the thread it should be,the red wings rule,me phish and gvac pity the rest of you

[denko]

from the "situation room on NHL.com

Interpretation of goalie interference rule: New Jersey at Carolina - 19:59 of the third period
04.21.2009 / 10:34 PM ET

The NHL's goalie interference rule sets a mandate to protect the goalie in the blue ice – to let the goalie do his job. In the white ice, it is a more delicate matter, including who moved into whom. The referee has one split-second look at it and it is a judgment call. NHL Hockey Operations has no video review capacity in this instance. Hockey Operations officials agreed with the call on the ice, that it looked like the goalie, Martin Brodeur, moved out toward the skater.



fuck broduer... go canes!

[styckx]

^ Exactly.

[HBox]

Nobody who watched that could honestly say Brodeur initiated the contact. Not to mention this is a different explanation than they were giving last night.

[denko]

Nobody who watched that could honestly say Brodeur initiated the contact. Not to mention this is a different explanation than they were giving last night.

thats the risk you run when you come out of the crease... if he was in the paint i would agree that he got fucked... but he wasn't. bum deal? yea, it sucks, but the official ruling was its a good goal.

[keithy_19]

thats the risk you run when you come out of the crease... if he was in the paint i would agree that he got fucked... but he wasn't. bum deal? yea, it sucks, but the official ruling was its a good goal.

So the goal that was scored when he was interfered with in the crease?

The refs dropped the ball. It was a great game and it should have ended in overtime instead of with a shitty goal like that. And Carolina fans throwing things on the ice after Brodeur complained to the refs? Real classy. The team runs into goalies (they've been doing it all series) and their fans throw things on the ice. Classless.

[denko]

So the goal that was scored when he was interfered with in the crease?
The refs dropped the ball. It was a great game and it should have ended in overtime instead of with a shitty goal like that. And Carolina fans throwing things on the ice after Brodeur complained to the refs? Real classy. The team runs into goalies (they've been doing it all series) and their fans throw things on the ice. Classless.

i'm not sure what this means... was there another questionable goal in that game? i didn't see it if there was.


and, i never said they weren't cheap, or their fans had class, i'm saying i agree with the league on that particular call. i couldn't care less if broduer slammed his stick, beat a hooker or the fans burned the place down. do the refs suck? yes. is the league inconsistent? yes. is it fair? no. thats why carcillo and lucic got a game suspension and komisarek, lapierre and kostopolous are able to throw elbows and eye gouge people without repercussion. what can you do?

would you be this outraged if the EXACT same play happened at the other end to give your team the win? i doubt it, you would say "he barely touched him... he was out of his crease". i agree, its a shitty way to lose, but the bottom line is the devils lost that game and in the eyes of the sanctioning body it was legal. they need to shake it off and come back strong at home.

[TheGameHHH]

i'm not sure what this means... was there another questionable goal in that game? i didn't see it if there was.


and, i never said they weren't cheap, or their fans had class, i'm saying i agree with the league on that particular call. i couldn't care less if broduer slammed his stick, beat a hooker or the fans burned the place down. do the refs suck? yes. is the league inconsistent? yes. is it fair? no. thats why carcillo and lucic got a game suspension and komisarek, lapierre and kostopolous are able to throw elbows and eye gouge people without repercussion. what can you do?

would you be this outraged if the EXACT same play happened at the other end to give your team the win? i doubt it, you would say "he barely touched him... he was out of his crease". i agree, its a shitty way to lose, but the bottom line is the devils lost that game and in the eyes of the sanctioning body it was legal. they need to shake it off and come back strong at home.

exactly......and i came to this conclusion about 30 seconds after the game ended. its over and theres nothing i can do about it

[HBox]

Sean Avery strikes again. Takes his stick and slashes a Capital in the fucking neck. Fuck him, fuck the Rangers and fuck the refs for only giving him 2 minutes.

[keithy_19]

Sean Avery strikes again. Takes his stick and slashes a Capital in the fucking neck. Fuck him, fuck the Rangers and fuck the refs for only giving him 2 minutes.

He really shouldn't be in the league. The NHL has made him into something more than he is. He's a dirt player who is on the cie for shock value.

As for the Devils game, I'm over the fact that it was a shitty goal. It was a missed call that prevented an awesome game from being even better by going into OT. The Dev's need to use that to their advantage though and steamroll them at the Rock like they did in the first game of the series.

[santino]

and the bruins sweep montreal!! go b's

[denko]

bruins fucking owned the habs. had them outmatched the whole way. lucic one punches that bitch komisarek so he cross checks him in the face with 7 mins to go. what a bitch.

don't worry about avery, the bruins will sort his ass out if they get past the caps.

[Gvac]

This Washington team deserves exactly what it's getting.

I've never seen a bigger bunch of pussies in my life.

[monkfish]

Sean Avery strikes again. Takes his stick and slashes a Capital in the fucking neck. Fuck him, fuck the Rangers and fuck the refs for only giving him 2 minutes.

Tortorella is going to tear him a new one tonight - two unnecessary penalties in a one-goal game being mostly played in your end of the ice is just stupid.

[Fallon]

Bruins were 9-0-1 against the Habs this year.

Pure dominance.

Oh ya, fuck you Komisarek. Cheap shot jackass.

[denko]

one more for the road pussy boy...

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he better get fucked for that cross check too, it was 100x worse than what lucic did to lapierre. that was viscious and intentional. cross check a guy so hard you cut his fucking face? come on?

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[nate1000]

Avery cheapens the game.

I see guys like this in our beer league all the time- guys with no talent who are not tough enough to play an intimidating game, so just resort to a series of cheap shots until someone pops them in the mouth. They ruin games. You end up playing some WWE-hockey crossover event for three periods.

The game would be much better off without these asshats.

[El Mudo]

NHL gives Kevin Smith the boot (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-parts-ways-with-Kevin-Smith-too-controversi?urn=nhl,158421)

With zero acrimony whatsoever, and nothing but love for the NHL, I'm here to announce the Devils Playoffs blog will move back here, to SilentBobSpeaks.com. Even though I was able to find a way around swearing in the blog, the NHL site is - understandably - a lot less liberal than my website. So rather than submit multiple drafts of a blog in order to make it more general audience friendly, we've decided that maybe it'd be best to move the blog back here, where I can let my hair down more.

No cause for alarm or outrage. S'not a big deal. No reason to be pissed at the NHL or me. This just makes more sense - as sports generally play to family audiences, and I generally play to reprobates and Persons of Interest.

Blech...although it was hysterical how he got around swearing by using "Gretzky"

[Tall_James]

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[Tenbatsuzen]

NHL gives Kevin Smith the boot (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-parts-ways-with-Kevin-Smith-too-controversi?urn=nhl,158421)



Blech...although it was hysterical how he got around swearing by using "Gretzky"

Those Mcsorley-and-cash Janets...

[TheGameHHH]

fuckin a, im nervous.

[Donnie Iris]

The Pens seem to have started with more energy but I don't like that it is still scoreless....

[TheGameHHH]

What an amazing game between the Devils and Canes tonight, capped off by a shutout from Marty. And that folks, is why he's the greatest.

[Gvac]

Kudos to the greatest hockey franchise in the history of the game, my beloved Detroit Red Wings.

Sorry boys.

I'll never doubt you again.

[keithy_19]

What an amazing game between the Devils and Canes tonight, capped off by a shutout from Marty. And that folks, is why he's the greatest.

What a game. Wow. 44 saves. Wow.

[El Mudo]

NBC is a joke... (http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2009/04/devils-wont-play-on-nbc-sunday-afternoon.html)

If the Caps/Rangers don't extend their series, instead of showing the Devils/Canes Sunday:

NBC stated in an e-mail press release today that if there is no Game 6 in that series [Caps/Rangers] Sunday, "the Jeep World of Adventure will air from 3-4 p.m. ET and the National Heads-Up Poker Championship from 4-6 p.m. ET."

[Donnie Iris]

NBC is a joke... (http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2009/04/devils-wont-play-on-nbc-sunday-afternoon.html)

If the Caps/Rangers don't extend their series, instead of showing the Devils/Canes Sunday:

There has been quite a contingent of folks watching the game outside of the arena on these massive screens (don't ask me why). However, during last week's game, NBC would not give permission to the Pens to air it outside. Pittsburgh is one of the largest hockey television markets in the country and people were earnestly upset. Just an awful PR move. Our local FSN coverage is light years better.

[weekapaugjz]

Our local FSN coverage is light years better.

Of course it is. I'm sure it could be said in any nhl city. Does any actual fan enjoy watching their teams games on nbc or vs?

[ToiletCrusher]

Of course it is. I'm sure it could be said in any nhl city. Does any actual fan enjoy watching their teams games on nbc or vs?

I prefer the Empiire Network with Rick Jeanneret and Jim Lorentz.

[Donnie Iris]

Of course it is. I'm sure it could be said in any nhl city. Does any actual fan enjoy watching their teams games on nbc or vs?

True. But I remember national TV coverage having a certain luster at least as far as production. Not anymore.

[weekapaugjz]

I prefer the Empiire Network with Rick Jeanneret and Jim Lorentz.

Empire ruled.

[ToiletCrusher]

Empire ruled.

Fucking Adelphia!

[denko]

the rollercoaster ride that is gvac's love affair with the red wings is almost as entertaining as the games.

go bruins!

[El Mudo]

HOLY SHIT!!!

Ovi just scored a goal against NYR that we are going to see over and over again for a LONG time...he faked out two guys, and scored sliding with Aaron Voros literally on his back

[Gvac]

the rollercoaster ride that is gvac's love affair with the red wings is almost as entertaining as the games.

Ha!

My love never wavers. The Wings and the Reds in baseball have earned my undying devotion. My faith, however...

[TheGameHHH]

HOLY SHIT!!!

Ovi just scored a goal against NYR that we are going to see over and over again for a LONG time...he faked out two guys, and scored sliding with Aaron Voros literally on his back

yet the Caps still suck.....go figure

[denko]

rangers get smoked enroute to whoever the fuck that dude is's second shutout in the series.

[El Mudo]

rangers get smoked enroute to whoever the fuck that dude is's second shutout in the series.

Simeon Varlamov, who wrecked his own mojo by changing the pronunciation of his name (its now Sim-Yon Var LA mov....like Nabokov in San Jose)

[El Mudo]

Some jerk decided to dump a beer on Coach Tortorella

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[denko]

stealing kovalev's stick was hysterical, throwing beer on a dude is just lame.

[denko]

bruins have been moving some goalies around which is surprising... i wonder if the rask meltdown has anything to do with it.

B's Recall Adam Courchaine from P-Bruins (http://bruins.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=419918&page=NewsPage&service=page)

Bruins Sign Goaltender Matt Dalton To An Entry Level Contract (http://bruins.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=419555&page=NewsPage&service=page)

[Fallon]

bruins have been moving some goalies around which is surprising... i wonder if the rask meltdown has anything to do with it.

B's Recall Adam Courchaine from P-Bruins (http://bruins.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=419918&page=NewsPage&service=page)

Bruins Sign Goaltender Matt Dalton To An Entry Level Contract (http://bruins.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=419555&page=NewsPage&service=page)

I'm guessing with a week off they don't want to have Thomas and Fernandez work all the practices. Rask will most likely be Thomas' backup next season.

[Fallon]

Pens are playing like dog crap.

2-0 Flyers so far.

[denko]

they're looking good now at 4-3 with a huge PK.

[jessicaduh]

YAY!

Pens win, 5-3. Yay!

[Fallon]

YAY!

Pens win, 5-3. Yay!

Philly really blew it today.

[denko]

Philly really blew it today.

you're up 3-0 in an elimination game and fucking blow it in the final 30 minutes giving up FOUR unanswered goals... someone will hang for that.

[denko]

well, it took 8 years (http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?showtopic=12347)for this to happen in boston.

i love how the team runs into the slightes bit of trouble and they want to hang people after dominating the regular season.

[KEITHJAY]

Boston is going to break my heart again this year I know it :wallbash: 12 more wins and I might believe in something

[denko]

NHL Suspends Tortorella for one game (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420130)

[Fallon]

NHL Suspends Tortorella for one game (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420130)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Now watch Avery score a hat trick tomorrow.

[Fallon]

Now watch Avery score a hat trick tomorrow.

What's that, two high sticking's and an interference?

[Tenbatsuzen]

What's that, two high sticking's and an interference?

notice how I was very quiet. Avery was a fucking idiot, and he should have been benched.

That said, for a guy who preaches discipline, Torts looks like a giant fucking hypocrite right now.

[denko]

come on ducks, you fucking assholes.

i want the rangers so bad... please let the rangers win tomorrow...

[NickyL0885]

wow. sharks deserve to lose this game.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

The Rangers look like they are just out for a Sunday stroll on the ice today.

[Gvac]

This one has the potential to get ugly.

[DrDrew319]

I must say the rangers are not playing the way they should be, but who the fuck does mike milbury think he is. he is talking like he is the greatest player ever. douche.

[DrDrew319]

there one

[El Mudo]

At several points during the game Tortorella looked just like the Prince of Darkness in that booth


I hate how nerve wracking Game 7s are

[Dirtybird12]

Capitals coach Bruce Boudreau defends Breashear's hit by saying: "it looked like a legal shoulder to me" LOL!!!

Nice job Caps! To the phone booth we go!

[denko]

i thought the brashear hit was clean too.

[Gvac]

The "let's sit back and let them come at us with all their might" strategy employed by the Devils in the first period tonight is something I haven't seen in quite some time.

In fact, I think the last time I saw it was Ali-Foreman back in the day. He called it rope-a-dope.

[TheGameHHH]

The "let's sit back and let them come at us with all their might" strategy employed by the Devils in the first period tonight is something I haven't seen in quite some time.

In fact, I think the last time I saw it was Ali-Foreman back in the day. He called it rope-a-dope.

no rope-a-dope tonight man, theyre just getting outplayed by the Canes.

[mudflap170]

Boston is going to break my heart again this year I know it :wallbash: 12 more wins and I might believe in something

Not going to happen Keith. See my signature. If I believe, then you should, also.
KEEP THE FAITH FELLOW BRUINS FAN!
They will not disappoint this year.

[El Mudo]

Glen Sather's letter to the NHL complaining about security at the Booth
(http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=420207&page=NewsPage&service=page)


Because of the way the glass is installed, the patron sitting behind Coach Tortorella (the gray-haired, bearded man in the white T-Shirt) could literally scream into the coach's ear. According to Rangers trainer Jim Ramsay, one patron was screaming at the team, in graphic language, about whether Dan Girardi and Marc Staal have a sexual relationship. This was within earshot of several children seated nearby. Several other fans also made repeated homophobic remarks. Moreover, Mr. Ramsay reported that he and other bench personnel were spit on by one or more "fans" as they yelled through the gaps in the glass.

[El Mudo]

TSN says Blair Betts has a broken orbital bone and is done for the playoffs (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=276631)


Brashear has a league disciplinary hearing this afternoon....can't see how this doesn't end with a suspension of some sort.

[Dirtybird12]

wait..NEW YORK is complaining to the league about homopohbic language? and disorderly conduct by fans?
http://a3.vox.com/6a00c2251f58b7549d00cd971eefe34cd5-500pi

Thats precious. Good one!

[Dirtybird12]

Rangers stand-in coach Jim Schoenfeld said Betts was hurt "significantly," and then also said that center Brandon Dubinsky was bit on the arm by Caps defenseman Shaone Morrisonn during a different scrum.

MORE (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/04/rangers_unhappy_about_strange.html)

[El Mudo]

Rangers stand-in coach Jim Schoenfeld said Betts was hurt "significantly," and then also said that center Brandon Dubinsky was bit on the arm by Caps defenseman Shaone Morrisonn during a different scrum.

MORE (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/04/rangers_unhappy_about_strange.html)



Actually, it doesn't look like Brashear is facing discipline for the hit on Betts...

According to the Post He's facing discipline for skating over the red line during warm ups and causing a mini ruckus (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/brashear-could-face-one-game-s.html)

[El Mudo]

Six games for Brashear....wow.


Since he's a UFA after this year, I assume he's played his last game for DC...


So long Donald....been nice havin' ya

[denko]

TSN says Blair Betts has a broken orbital bone and is done for the playoffs (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=276631)


Brashear has a league disciplinary hearing this afternoon....can't see how this doesn't end with a suspension of some sort.

i HAVE to ask this... what about the crosscheck to lucic's face that komisarek threw? why has there been no fucking mention of it? this league is as fucked as NA$CAR with the "lets make the rules as we go" BULLSHIT! i don't even like brashear, and i really want to caps to lose (sorry mudo) and this has me fuming.

[El Mudo]

i HAVE to ask this... what about the crosscheck to lucic's face that komisarek threw? why has there been no fucking mention of it? this league is as fucked as NA$CAR with the "lets make the rules as we go" BULLSHIT! i don't even like brashear, and i really want to caps to lose (sorry mudo) and this has me fuming.



Not to mention the shenanigans in the Calgary/Chicago series and the Philadelphia/Pittsburgh series...

The league REALLY needs a concrete disciplinary policy...or at least some uniformity or standard into how it doles out punishment

In Brashear's case, the length of his suspension for the hit (5 games, one for the pre game stuff), is primarily due to the fact that Betts' season was ended, which is a lot like putting the cart before the donkey

[Fallon]

Sayonara San Jose!!!

Bruins gain full home ice.

[NickyL0885]

Sayonara San Jose!!!

Bruins gain full home ice.

Wow. Sharks need to be overhauled. But their loss means the Isles other first round pick, which was San Jose's, is at #26. I expect the Isles to package it along with a 2nd rounder to move up to middle first round.

[Gvac]

Well, the second round of the Western Conference is set.

Anaheim (8) vs. Detroit (2)

Chicago (4) vs. Vancouver (3)

My first round picks were abominable.

I give up trying to figure it out.

[denko]

i didn't do so well myself in the 1st round picks

boston W
washington
carolina
philidephia L

san jose L
columbus L
vancouver W
chicago W

i can still go 5 out of 8...

i think ana will beat det and chicago will beat ana to make an ana chi western final.

[Gwen]

I hate how nerve wracking Game 7s are


Quoted for Truth! I am like weeks behind in this thread, I can't read back over everything hopefully I can focus on the thread going forward.

[denko]

gwen, i have never done this in my life... but tonight i am pulling for your rangers. for two reasons:

1) i like torts.. he rules and got fucked over in tampa
2) i want to see the bruins pound on them in the next round.

tonight however, they are my team... and they need to get on the board early and often to beat these caps tonight.

[voodoo_star]

Great deal for the Caps! Rangers had whatever wind was left in the sails killed! Goon hockey is fine but drop the gloves and beat the shit out of someone. I'd love to see what would've happened if Orr did the same to Ovie!

[Gwen]

gwen, i have never done this in my life... but tonight i am pulling for your rangers. for two reasons:

1) i like torts.. he rules and got fucked over in tampa
2) i want to see the bruins pound on them in the next round.

tonight however, they are my team... and they need to get on the board early and often to beat these caps tonight.

Hope that your luck/support of a team isn't like Opie's! Seriously, I'm scared of the B's if we make it to next round. I didn't want to finish in 8th 'cause we'd have had to play them and I know we wouldn't have made it out alive.

Oh, and Tim Thomas for the Vezina, w00t!

[denko]

Thats One!!!

[denko]

we're still in it, gwen. that was a huge kill. i don't know how you watch this team nught after night. could be the most frustrating team ever... they can do it, they just don't. henrik is on point tonight, and avery is having a great game.

ovechkin has managed to stay pretty much invisiblr through the first 45mins. good game so far.

[weekapaugjz]

ha ha.

fuck the rangers.

[El Mudo]

Sergei Fedorov is GOD



http://img.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/11/ricflair.jpg


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[denko]

as soon as he took the puck i knew he was going to score. incredible shot.

henrik was fucking awesome tonight too. damn shame. the rangers did a great job of controlling the tempo but they have no offense.

[Freakshow]

I never had the bad feeling that I had in game 7 last year against the Flyers (esp. in overtime). Did I see Federov on the PK unit earlier in the game. Worth every penny of his 4 mil...

[Thomas Merton]

LET"S GO CAPS (in caps, see me working here...)

[El Mudo]

I never had the bad feeling that I had in game 7 last year against the Flyers (esp. in overtime). Did I see Federov on the PK unit earlier in the game. Worth every penny of his 4 mil...



He should be working EVERY PK....he's one of the best PK men we have, and there's no reason for him (and Alex Semin, who's also an amazing Penalty killer) to not be out there. Why they insist on giving Fleischmann PP and PK time over Fedorov, Fehr and Semin boggles my mind

I don't want to play Pittsburgh next round...too many ghosts

[Freakshow]

I still think Boyd Gordon is the man. #15!

[denko]

I don't want to play Pittsburgh next round...too many ghosts

i'll take pittsburgh over carolina... as of this minute

boston v pittsburgh
new jersey v washington

you'd have home ice too

why wouldn't the nhl network play the devils game? why have a network if you're not going to air these things?

[Freakshow]

i'll take pittsburgh over carolina... as of this minute

boston v pittsburgh
new jersey v washington

you'd have home ice too

why wouldn't the nhl network play the devils game? why have a network if you're not going to air these things?

shouldn't the caps have home ice regardless. #2 seed...

[denko]

shouldn't the caps have home ice regardless. #2 seed...


yea, unless they face boston in the conference final. just pointing it out again.

[Gwen]

we're still in it, gwen. that was a huge kill. i don't know how you watch this team nught after night. could be the most frustrating team ever... they can do it, they just don't. henrik is on point tonight, and avery is having a great game.


I have an enormous stockpile of tums and beer. Helps to ease the stomach churning and dull the pain.

Congrats to the Caps fans. I wish it didn't have to be at the Rangers expense.

Go B's in the east, not sure about who I want for the west. I'm torn between Vancouver & Chicago. I'd love to see Chicago for the possibility of an Original Six Stanley Cup final. I can't help but love Luongo though. I [heart] goalies.

[denko]

I'd love to see Chicago for the possibility of an Original Six Stanley Cup final.


O6 matchup in the finals would be great, chi or det... how long has it been since that happened

[denko]

through the magic of google i have learned the following:

1978-79 season when the Canadiens beat the Rangers 4-1 under the leadership of Scotty Bowman

i can't imagine a world where these two teams are in a different conference.


HOLY SHIT!!! carolina comes back!

[Annie Waits]

canes coming back!!! wow!!!!! unreal!!

[Freakshow]

I have an enormous stockpile of tums and beer. Helps to ease the stomach churning and dull the pain.

Congrats to the Caps fans. I wish it didn't have to be at the Rangers expense.

Go B's in the east, not sure about who I want for the west. I'm torn between Vancouver & Chicago. I'd love to see Chicago for the possibility of an Original Six Stanley Cup final. I can't help but love Luongo though. I [heart] goalies.

It was a hell of a series. The Rangers played their hearts out. Caps lost a game 7 overtime last year so I know how it feels.

[TheGameHHH]

im seriously fuckin sick right now

[Tenbatsuzen]

im seriously fuckin sick right now

that's... that's terrible. I'm sorry. How did your season die?

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6779/mb2ry9.jpg

You can actually see two pucks going through if you watch for 90 seconds.

[Gvac]

I'm still stunned. Two goals in the final 80 seconds by the road team to shock the Devils in Game 7.

That's why watching sports is so much fun.

[Freakshow]

bring on the penguins...

[TheGameHHH]

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6779/mb2ry9.jpg

You can actually see two pucks going through if you watch for 90 seconds.

youre lucky at can laugh at these types of situations....that was pretty funny

[Tenbatsuzen]

youre lucky at can laugh at these types of situations....that was pretty funny

I'll make you a new Yankees sig as my pennance. Deal?

[TheGameHHH]

I'll make you a new Yankees sig as my pennance. Deal?

please do it ASAP

[No1Throwdown]

MEGA kick in the balls:tongue::thumbup:

but every non devil fan loooves it

[MHasegawa]

through the magic of google i have learned the following:

1978-79 season when the Canadiens beat the Rangers 4-1 under the leadership of Scotty Bowman

i can't imagine a world where these two teams are in a different conference.


For a short time, the playoff teams were seeded #1 through #16 regardless of conference, the next year the Islanders won their first cup defeating the Flyers in the final.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

went 6-2 in the first round....on to round two

Boston over Carolina in 6

Pittsburgh over Washington in 7

Chicago over Vancouver in 5

Detroit over Anaheim in 5

[keithy_19]

I'm pretty stoned at the moment, so bear with me.

The Hurricances deserved to win this series. The Devils played, once again, for about 45 mintues of the game. They laid back and the Hurricanes capitalized. Brodeur, as amazing of a goalie as he is, can't do it on his own. He is also very human. Not taking anything away from the shots that went in tonight, but a younger Broduer would have probably made those saves.

With that being said, lets go Boston. Boston and Detroit, or Boston and Chicago. Fucke evryone else. With the exception of Malkin who is the second best player in the game as of now.

[Gwen]

O6 matchup in the finals would be great, chi or det... how long has it been since that happened

Sorry to Gvac, but there is no way in HELL I wanna see Detroit in the finals again. I'm over them, even if Dr. Perry Cox is a fan.

[Gwen]

Andrew made the point last night that it is Pens vs. Caps. A sports writers fantasy jizzfest of Crosby vs. Ovie for as long as it takes.

[Donnie Iris]

I'm sure a conference finals match up would be more ideal, but you know Bettman and the NHL are jerking off so hard to the Pens/Caps series....

[Donnie Iris]

Pardon my ignorance/laziness but when does the second round commence?

[El Mudo]

Pardon my ignorance/laziness but when does the second round commence?

Tomorrow


SERIES I #1 Boston vs. #6 Carolina
Friday, May 1, 2009 Carolina at Boston
Sunday, May 3, 2009 Carolina at Boston
Wednesday, May 6, 2009 Boston at Carolina
Friday, May 8, 2009 Boston at Carolina
*Sunday, May 10, 2009 Carolina at Boston
*Tuesday, May 12, 2009 Boston at Carolina
*Thursday, May 14, 2009 Carolina at Boston

SERIES J #2 Washington vs. #4 Pittsburgh
Saturday, May 2, 2009 Pittsburgh at Washington
Monday, May 4, 2009 Pittsburgh at Washington
Wednesday, May 6, 2009 Washington at Pittsburgh
Friday, May 8, 2009 Washington at Pittsburgh
*Saturday, May 9, 2009 Pittsburgh at Washington
*Monday, May 11, 2009 Washington at Pittsburgh
*Wednesday, May 13, 2009 Pittsburgh at Washington

SERIES K #2 Detroit vs. #8 Anaheim
Friday, May 1, 2009 Anaheim at Detroit
Sunday, May 3, 2009 Anaheim at Detroit
Tuesday, May 5, 2009 Detroit at Anaheim
Thursday, May 7, 2009 Detroit at Anaheim
*Sunday, May 10, 2009 Anaheim at Detroit
*Tuesday, May 12, 2009 Detroit at Anaheim
*Thursday, May 14, 2009 Anaheim at Detroit

SERIES L #3 Vancouver vs. #4 Chicago
Thursday, April 30, 2009 Chicago at Vancouver
Saturday, May 2, 2009 Chicago at Vancouver
Tuesday, May 5, 2009 Vancouver at Chicago
Thursday, May 7, 2009 Vancouver at Chicago
*Saturday, May 9, 2009 Chicago at Vancouver
*Monday, May 11, 2009 Vancouver at Chicago
*Thursday, May 14, 2009 Chicago at Vancouver

[El Mudo]

I'm sure a conference finals match up would be more ideal, but you know Bettman and the NHL are jerking off so hard to the Pens/Caps series....



Coach Boudreau had a pretty apt quote:

"That [series against New York] wasn't a circus," Boudreau said. "It wasn't Ringling Bros. We're playing Pittsburgh. Welcome to the circus."

[hammersavage]

For all the drawbacks that Avery has as being an absolute head case, he was the best player on the ice last night. He played so hard.

Rangers played almost a perfect first 30 minutes and when it was still 1-1, I knew they'd lose. On the first Caps goal, I thought they'd lose cuz it was so flukey. Oh well, back to baseball for me.

[Donnie Iris]

Coach Boudreau had a pretty apt quote:

I'd say that's right on the money. Philly was easily the Pens biggest rival for a while but I think they may be losing some ground to Washington. Flyers fans just seem too ridiculous and for lack of a better term, stupid to keep it lasting. It's always sweet but now expected to beat and outclass them.

The Caps on the other hand seem to have had the talent for several years now but somehow unable to find a way to win when it matters. This series should be quite good. I'd like some early road wins to appease some of the anxiety...

[TjM]

I would love a B's vs Hawks cup

[El Mudo]

Malkin, Ovechkin, Datsyuk finalists for Hart Trophy (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420636&navid=DL|NHL|Home)

[Fallon]

WOW and I thought the Devils blew it...
http://www.totallycrap.com/videos/videos_hockey_fans_love_oral_02/
Wakka!! Wakka!!

[denko]

my pick this round are

bos
was
ana
chi

the regular season series for each match up went as follows

bos went 4-0-0 against car
was 3-0-1 against pt
det 3-0-1 against ana
chi 2-2-0 against van

[nate1000]

Boston in 6 - staal's a cunt
Pit in 7- that staal, too
Det in 5
Chi in 7

[jessicaduh]

i'm nervous about the capitals. stupid ovechkin. why do they have to face the capitals?

Go Pens!

[cougarjake13]

did the rangers win ??

[TonyStark]

Wish I was able to see it but I was listening to it on the radio, Vanouver Chicago started with a bang.

Van up 3-0 at the end of the second and Chicago comes back to tie it in 20 minutes of the 3rd. Sami Salo scores the winner for Vancouver with about 70 seconds left.

[denko]

i don't see carolina doing any damage in this series. they might take one but thats it. boston owned them last night.

[Annie Waits]

Crosby needs a fake beard, it would look better than whatever he can grow now.

good game so far though!

[denko]

good game

[El Mudo]

Good heavens....

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[Fallon]

Good heavens....

Save of the playoffs.

[denko]

and varlamov has played more playoff games than regular season games at this point... last guy to do that was ken dryden i believe... went on to win the conn smythe and THEN the rookie of the year the following season on his way to 6 cups with the habs.

[disneyspy]

i dont know why anaheim feels like they need to help the wings but thanks for the goal,sorry kids,detroit will sweep there way to the cup,ozzies back

[Fallon]

i dont know why anaheim feels like they need to help the wings but thanks for the goal,sorry kids,detroit will sweep there way to the cup,ozzies back

Oz didn't look so good there.

[Fallon]

Oz didn't look so good there.

x2

[disneyspy]

Oz didn't look so good there.

or there

[disneyspy]

sweet backhand,damn if this keeps up this will be the highest scorin game in history

[denko]

go ducks!

[weekapaugjz]

I can't wait for Boston kick the shit out of Carolina tonight. I love watching tim thomas.

[denko]

he's been unbelievable so far in the playoffs.

[disneyspy]

nedermeyer...DEAD!

[denko]

wow... det gets a PP in OT.

[disneyspy]

wow... det gets a PP in OT.

neidermeyer is a cheap shot player,bout time he got caught

[keithy_19]

I'm loving this Det/Ana series.

[disneyspy]

man it felt like the wings were on the PP all period

[denko]

game 1 of this series was awesome. had it all, goals, fighing, game misconducts. its only going to get better. still can't believe that didn't land brown a suspension. i see this game ending with the puck bouncing off a shin pad or a bad bounce. has that feel to it.

[Fallon]

What a fucking game. I hope it lasts until 7:30, just in time for my B's.

[disneyspy]

What a fucking game. I hope it lasts until 7:30, just in time for my B's.

not me,fuckin nervous as shit over here

[Fallon]

not me,fuckin nervous as shit over here

You're right, the ducks need to wrap this up.

[Fallon]

TRIPLE OT!!

[disneyspy]

i'm gonna need a stent soon

[cougarjake13]

TRIPLE OT!!

SWEET !!!!!!! I HOPE THEy GO 6 OT'S

[disneyspy]

SWEET !!!!!!! I HOPE THEy GO 6 OT'S

i picked a bad time of the year to quit smokin

[disneyspy]

fuck

[Fallon]

Perfect shot, what a game.

[weekapaugjz]

Perfect shot, what a game.

just throwing it at the net and it hits the top corner. very nice. and if osgood makes the save, neidermayer is right there.

[weekapaugjz]

a boo

[weekapaugjz]

i'm very surprised that they didn't call that a goal.

[Landblast]

the shot where they zoomed in and the puck was parallel to the goal line looked in, so...what is Toronto looking at. dread the thought but, i think they need to put more cameras inside the net, 2 at the base of the side posts, and more at the crossbar looking down or whatever works,.. they can build it for it to be durable, cause the angles their working with now looks pretty archaic

[Fallon]

B's played flat tonight and any opportunity they had Ward stoned them. Hopefully the can bounce back in Carolina.

And schedule makers blow. The next five Bruins and Celtics games are on the same night. Asses.

[weekapaugjz]

i know this sounds redundant, but the islanders are a fucking joke. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4129484)

[El Mudo]

B's played flat tonight and any opportunity they had Ward stoned them. Hopefully the can bounce back in Carolina.

And schedule makers blow. The next five Bruins and Celtics games are on the same night. Asses.


Speaking of scheduling fun, the Caps and Pens have to play back to games Friday and Saturday, because Yanni is playing Civic Arena.

[Annie Waits]

I can't wait for Boston kick the shit out of Carolina tonight. I love watching tim thomas.

I think you meant Cam Ward.....what a great night for him!!!

[Donnie Iris]

Speaking of scheduling fun, the Caps and Pens have to play back to games Friday and Saturday, because Yanni is playing Civic Arena.

Priorities are priorities...

[denko]

B's played flat tonight and any opportunity they had Ward stoned them. Hopefully the can bounce back in Carolina.


they were turning the puck over, making bad passes. they put some good pressure on ward at times but overall they had a pretty bad game.

[El Mudo]

Looks like Ray Emery may be headed to Philadelphia.... (http://blog.canoe.ca/offtheposts/2009/05/04/return_of_the_rayzor)




Yeah.....THAT'S going to work out well :flush:

[Donnie Iris]

I don't want to hear the bitching about Crosby.

Ovechkin just took a dive far worse than anything I've seen in a long time.

[weekapaugjz]

I don't want to hear the bitching about Crosby.

Ovechkin just took a dive far worse than anything I've seen in a long time.

right, when ovechkin starts doing it every single game of his career, you might be able to start talking.

[Annie Waits]

hat trick!

[Donnie Iris]

Ovechkin is the best player I've ever seen.

Nothing more I can say.

[Donnie Iris]

right, when ovechkin starts doing it every single game of his career, you might be able to start talking.

Every single game of his career....

Doesn't even make sense.

Good point man.

[weekapaugjz]

Every single game of his career....

Doesn't even make sense.

Good point man.

yeah, totally doesn't make sense.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I'm surprised at how this series is going, I didn't think goalieov from Wash was going to play as well against the Pens offense. And that Ovechkin guy is pretty good. and now a double hat trick

[weekapaugjz]

haa haa. fuck the pens.

[Landblast]

big win for my boys tonight, feel fortunate were up 2-0.

[Donnie Iris]

I'm sure Ovechkin will dominate the headlines and deservedly so, but I think Varlamov was equally if not more influential to that victory. He played insane; namely in the second period.

I hope this series lasts...

[Fallon]

Looks like Ray Emery may be headed to Philadelphia.... (http://blog.canoe.ca/offtheposts/2009/05/04/return_of_the_rayzor)




Yeah.....THAT'S going to work out well :flush:

Just don't try to make him wear a hat.

[El Mudo]

Ovechkin is the best player I've ever seen.

Nothing more I can say.

QFT...



If Sid wants to wonder why people hate him, its stuff like this... (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/05/crosby_objects_to_hats_on_ice.html)

"People kept throwing hats," Sidney Crosby said tonight. "I was just asking if he could make an announcement to ask them to stop. I mean, the first wave came and then I think they were all pretty much picked up, and then more started coming. So for us, we just wanted to make sure we kept kind of moving and kept the game going, wanted to try to get back in it. So wasn't complaining about anything."

[Donnie Iris]

QFT...



If Sid wants to wonder why people hate him, its stuff like this... (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/05/crosby_objects_to_hats_on_ice.html)

I mean I get that rubbing some people the wrong way, but if you actually listen or watch some of those quotes, they are in fact quite benign. I'm not saying he's entirely innocent, but I will say that he's young, overly scrutinized and certainly more times than not, says the right things. I think that article may be a bit slanted...

[Donnie Iris]

Oh, and also, don't get me wrong; you guys all hating Sid is definitely an added bonus rather than a detraction for me.

[AKA]

Oh, and also, don't get me wrong; you guys all hating Sid is definitely an added bonus rather than a detraction for me.

There's a big, big difference in hating someone and thinking they over an over-rated douche bag.

[El Mudo]

Oh, and also, don't get me wrong; you guys all hating Sid is definitely an added bonus rather than a detraction for me.



Eh....personally, I leave all the Crosby hating stuff to the Flyers fans. I got nothing against him. I think he's a great player.

[Donnie Iris]

There's a big, big difference in hating someone and thinking they over an over-rated douche bag.

Over-rated? Please put this in context. I can see thinking someone is a douche bag; i.e. my opinion of you. But I don't see how an objective opinion can find him "over-rated". Over analyzed? Definitely.

[Donnie Iris]

Eh....personally, I leave all the Crosby hating stuff to the Flyers fans. I got nothing against him. I think he's a great player.

Yeah, I hear it. I'm sure there will still be some that will boo Ovechkin every time he touches the puck in Mellon Arena. I'm wholly against it, not from a moral but just cognitive standpoint. Doesn't make sense.

[denko]

why does ovechkin answer questions about valarmov by saying "i don't want to talk about him"? i've seen him do this a number of times now... does he not like him? whats the story?

[Snoogans]

Crosby is overrated. He is a real good player, but he is not as good as they act, and he isnt even the best player on his own team. I think Malkin is better.

Plus he just constantly cries like a bitch. He is like a slightly more talented scott gomez

[Donnie Iris]

Crosby is overrated. He is a real good player, but he is not as good as they act, and he isnt even the best player on his own team. I think Malkin is better.

Plus he just constantly cries like a bitch. He is like a slightly more talented scott gomez

Slightly more talented Scott Gomez... Ha.

Who are "they"?

[Snoogans]

Slightly more talented Scott Gomez... Ha.

Who are "they"?

I never said they once in my post. It was completely my opinion. I dont get where you were goin here

[El Mudo]

why does ovechkin answer questions about valarmov by saying "i don't want to talk about him"? i've seen him do this a number of times now... does he not like him? whats the story?



He doesn't say "I don't want to talk to him"...he just says "I don't talk to him".

No one on the team really does except for Semin, and he doesn't deal with the media.


Crosby is overrated. He is a real good player, but he is not as good as they act, and he isnt even the best player on his own team. I think Malkin is better.

Plus he just constantly cries like a bitch. He is like a slightly more talented scott gomez



Its so hard to compare Malkin and Crosby and even Crosby and Ovechkin, because they are just completely different players. Malkin and Ovechkin are more of a Lemieux/Vinny type power scoring forward, and Crosby is a more durable Peter Forsberg.

Crosby punched in two TOUGH goals last night right in the crease...thats probably the least pussy thing you can do in the game of hockey

[Donnie Iris]

I never said they once in my post. It was completely my opinion. I dont get where you were goin here

Umm, yes you did.


Originally Posted by Snoogans
Crosby is overrated. He is a real good player, but he is not as good as they act, and he isnt even the best player on his own team. I think Malkin is better.

Plus he just constantly cries like a bitch. He is like a slightly more talented scott gomez

[Snoogans]

Umm, yes you did.


Originally Posted by Snoogans
Crosby is overrated. He is a real good player, but he is not as good as they act, and he isnt even the best player on his own team. I think Malkin is better.

Plus he just constantly cries like a bitch. He is like a slightly more talented scott gomez

holy fuck. I read it twice back after and still missed that. What the fuck is wrong with me today. I posted in the wrong thread, I cant read. And I didnt even smoke yet. Maybe I should.

Anyway I guess the they would be the people on the boradcasts and highlights who suck crosby's dick and almost never bring up Malkin, who is better

[Snoogans]

He doesn't say "I don't want to talk to him"...he just says "I don't talk to him".

No one on the team really does except for Semin, and he doesn't deal with the media.






Its so hard to compare Malkin and Crosby and even Crosby and Ovechkin, because they are just completely different players. Malkin and Ovechkin are more of a Lemieux/Vinny type power scoring forward, and Crosby is a more durable Peter Forsberg.

Crosby punched in two TOUGH goals last night right in the crease...thats probably the least pussy thing you can do in the game of hockey

then he probably spent 20 minutes cryin to the ref that someone grabbed his stick or something. Im not sayin he is a shitty player, but he is a fuckin bitch.

[Donnie Iris]

holy fuck. I read it twice back after and still missed that. What the fuck is wrong with me today. I posted in the wrong thread, I cant read. And I didnt even smoke yet. Maybe I should.

Anyway I guess the they would be the people on the boradcasts and highlights who suck crosby's dick and almost never bring up Malkin, who is better

Ha, no worries.


I think you're grossly over-stating your point here though.

[Snoogans]

Ha, no worries.


I think you're grossly over-stating your point here though.

Thats the beauty of sports. Again show me where I said crosby sucks? The gomez thing was more to compare the whiney personalities. I dont actually think gomez is as good as crosby, but im not gonna act like Crosby is worlds ahead. At least of the Devils Gomez. the rangers one really seems to blow. But thats what guys do when they sign with theRangers. They blow.

I do legitimately think Malkin is better though.

And just for Mudo the homer's benefit, OVECHKIN IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE NHL. As of yet he isnt even close.

And I know the games were different but if you wanna go straight numbers, he isnt even fuckin Mogilny yet

[El Mudo]

Thats the beauty of sports. Again show me where I said crosby sucks? The gomez thing was more to compare the whiney personalities. I dont actually think gomez is as good as crosby, but im not gonna act like Crosby is worlds ahead. At least of the Devils Gomez. the rangers one really seems to blow. But thats what guys do when they sign with theRangers. They blow.

I do legitimately think Malkin is better though.

And just for Mudo the homer's benefit, OVECHKIN IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE NHL. As of yet he isnt even close.

And I know the games were different but if you wanna go straight numbers, he isnt even fuckin Mogilny yet



Show me where I said he was the best player ever in the NHL? (the answer to that question, BTW, is Robert Gordon Orr)


As far as players i've seen live and in person? He's the best i've ever seen. I was never able to see mid 80s Gretzky live (although certainly early 90s Gretzky was impressive) and I was only able to see shadow Lemieux live after the cancer and his back had gone.

And no one scores like Mogilny did any longer...its a completely different game. There's no way in hell Moginly in his prime would have EVER potted 76 in todays NHL. There are stats in baseball, like OPS + and EqA to compare across eras, but to my knowlege, there's nothing like that in hockey.

Between traps, left wing locks, sophisticated defensive systems, computer analysis, athleticism, size of goaltender pads, the butterfly and Roberto Luongo, its amazing anyone today scores 50

[Snoogans]

Ill still go with Howe, sir.

And i know you said it, cause I had AIM convo with spoon where he pointed out you sayin it. Im not about to look through all this shit to find it.

Some dumb bitch at bergen Bar Night said it too

[Snoogans]

Show me where I said he was the best player ever in the NHL? (the answer to that question, BTW, is Robert Gordon Orr)


As far as players i've seen live and in person? He's the best i've ever seen. I was never able to see mid 80s Gretzky live (although certainly early 90s Gretzky was impressive) and I was only able to see shadow Lemieux live after the cancer and his back had gone.

And no one scores like Mogilny did any longer...its a completely different game. There's no way in hell Moginly in his prime would have EVER potted 76 in todays NHL. There are stats in baseball, like OPS + and EqA to compare across eras, but to my knowlege, there's nothing like that in hockey.

Between traps, left wing locks, sophisticated defensive systems, computer analysis, athleticism, size of goaltender pads, the butterfly and Roberto Luongo, its amazing anyone today scores 50

which is why i said ITS A DIFFERENT GAME. The comment was just to inflame you

And didnt mogilny have over 80 1 year?

[Donnie Iris]

Thats the beauty of sports. Again show me where I said crosby sucks? The gomez thing was more to compare the whiney personalities. I dont actually think gomez is as good as crosby, but im not gonna act like Crosby is worlds ahead. At least of the Devils Gomez. the rangers one really seems to blow. But thats what guys do when they sign with theRangers. They blow.

I do legitimately think Malkin is better though.

And just for Mudo the homer's benefit, OVECHKIN IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE NHL. As of yet he isnt even close.

And I know the games were different but if you wanna go straight numbers, he isnt even fuckin Mogilny yet


I never said that you said he sucks. You said over rated. Numbers? Ok.

Rookie year at 18 years old on a Garbage team scores 102 points.

Sophomore campaign led the league with 120 points winning the Art Ross, Hart and Lester B. Pearson awards. First teenager to ever win a most valuable player award in any major American Sport and led a highly inexperienced team to the playoffs after finishing dead last.

Last season he scored 72 in an injury riddled year, dominated in the playoffs helping the team reach the cup and nearly forced a game 7 against a much better Detroit team.

This year, third in points in the regular season, currently leading in post season goals and second in points.

Again, over rated?

[El Mudo]

BTW...Mogilny's first three years (before he blew up with the 76 goal season)

15g 28a 43p

30g 34a 64p

39g 45a 84p

Ovechkin's first three years

52g 54a 106p

46g 46a 92p

65g 47a 112p




Wanna try again?

[El Mudo]

which is why i said ITS A DIFFERENT GAME. The comment was just to inflame you

And didnt mogilny have over 80 1 year?



No...the highest he had was 76 in 92-93. No one has hit 80 since Brett Hull in 90-91 when he had 86


I was just looking at Lemieux's stats, and do you believe he had seasons where he had

123 points in 59 games

131 points in 64 games

160 points in 60 games

76 points in 43 games

91 points in 67 games

Are you kidding me???

[Snoogans]

No...the highest he had was 76 in 92-93
I just looked at the list.
OK hold on. BERNIE FUCKIN NICHOLS SCORED 70 GOALS IN A YEAR. That better NOT be the same one who ate ass for the Devils

[El Mudo]

I just looked at the list.
OK hold on. BERNIE FUCKIN NICHOLS SCORED 70 GOALS IN A YEAR. That better NOT be the same one who ate ass for the Devils



Same guy...he had 70 goals and 80 assists one year...good heavens.

Maybe the trap was good for the game?

[Snoogans]

Same guy

FUCKIN SCUMBAG. He scored like 29 goals in over a year with the devils. What a fuckin cock. At least Mogilny had a 40 goal year in Jersey

[Snoogans]

i think bernie nicholls was on roids. Never had more than 46 goals, then somehow gets 70, then never gets over 27 again.

[Donnie Iris]

No...the highest he had was 76 in 92-93. No one has hit 80 since Brett Hull in 90-91 when he had 86


I was just looking at Lemieux's stats, and do you believe he had seasons where he had

123 points in 59 games

131 points in 64 games

160 points in 60 games

76 points in 43 games

91 points in 67 games

Are you kidding me???

I know. Unreal. How was that even possible?

Plus he has a wine cellar that would melt any French(Canadian)man's heart.

[El Mudo]

i think bernie nicholls was on roids. Never had more than 46 goals, then somehow gets 70, then never gets over 27 again.



Not having that Gretzky guy on his team was a pretty big career killer....

I mean, the sonofabitch turned Mike Krushelnyski into a 43 goal scorer

[Snoogans]

he played with gretzkey 1 year after the 70 goal season. It was like 89 he did it. And he never did it before that year either

[Snoogans]

though that second year with gretzkey he scored 27 and only played 40 something games so ok, ill give him that. But even in the years he played 80 games he never came close.

[El Mudo]

Gretzky joined the Kings in 88-89, the same year Nicholls scored 70 goals


Nicholls

1988-89 Los Angeles Kings NHL 79 70 80 150

Gretzky

1988-89 Los Angeles Kings NHL 78 54 114

[Snoogans]

Gretzky joined the Kings in 88-89, the same year Nicholls scored 70 goals

so what you cant even get half as good otherwise? STEROIDS

[El Mudo]

though that second year with gretzkey he scored 27 and only played 40 something games so ok, ill give him that. But even in the years he played 80 games he never came close.



Because they dealt him at mid season to the Rangers

For the next six-and-a-half years, Nicholls was a key offensive talent for the Kings, with his best year (70 goals and 80 assists for 150 points in 79 games played) coming in 1988–89 after the team's acquisition of Wayne Gretzky. During that season, he became one of only 12 players to ever record an eight-point game in NHL history. However, with Stanley Cup aspirations, the Kings made the decision to trade the star centre for a pair of wingers. Nicholls joined the New York Rangers, helping to propel his new club to the second round of the playoffs.

1989–90 Los Angeles Kings NHL 47 27 48 75 66
1989–90 New York Rangers NHL 32 12 25 37 20

[Snoogans]

Because they dealt him at mid season to the Rangers



1989–90 Los Angeles Kings NHL 47 27 48 75 66
1989–90 New York Rangers NHL 32 12 25 37 20

still a bum


If i played with gretzkey I woulda scored 200 goals a year.

[El Mudo]

still a bum


If i played with gretzkey I woulda scored 200 goals a year.



Do you believe the Rangers turned around and used Nicholls as the center piece in the deal to Edmonton to get Mark Messier???

So Nicholls was traded for Sandstrom and Granato, who were big parts of the Kings Stanley Cup run, AND he was traded for the guy responsible for the Rangers run in 94

Sweet Jesus....

[Snoogans]

Do you believe the Rangers turned around and used Nicholls as the center piece in the deal to Edmonton to get Mark Messier???

Sweet Jesus....

WHAT THE FUCK. So Nicholls REALLY fucked the Devils.

[El Mudo]

Sorry Matty...but hockey is done in Phoenix.


Coyotes filed for Chapter 11 (http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/05/c8776.html)

TORONTO, May 5 /CNW/ - Jim Balsillie tabled an offer today to purchase
the Phoenix Coyotes, following the team's bankruptcy filing. The offer to
purchase the team for $212.5 million (U.S.) is conditional on relocation to
Southern Ontario, to become the seventh NHL franchise in Canada.
"The current team ownership asked that I table an offer to purchase the
Coyotes and significant discussions resulted in an offer that is in the best
interests of the franchise, the NHL, and the great hockey fans of Canada and
Southern Ontario," Mr. Balsillie said.

[cougarjake13]

Sorry Matty...but hockey is done in Phoenix.


Coyotes filed for Chapter 11 (http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/05/c8776.html)




with the reports not too long ago about toronto wanting a 2nd team is that where they're going ??

[Donnie Iris]

What a game.

Beyond the obvious, my highlight of the night was getting a text from my buddy at the game between the second and third period that read: "This slob, lady caps fan was just mouthing off about being up 2-0 until everyone started yelling at her to shave her playoff beard".

(Before you retort, I know I now live and am from Pittsburgh)

[Freakshow]

What a game.
(Before you retort, I know I now live and am from Pittsburgh)

If anyone should know about shaving chicks' beards, it would someone from Pittburgh.



Just delaying the inevitable, by the way. Caps in 5...

[Gvac]

with the reports not too long ago about toronto wanting a 2nd team is that where they're going ??

Balsillie wants to buy them and move them to Hamilton, Ontario.

He tried to buy the Penguins a few years ago when they were bankrupt but the NHL blocked it because they didn't want him moving them to Canada.

Then he tried to buy the Nashville Predators but the NHL blocked it again because they really want hockey to succeed in the south.

Bettman despises Balsillie, but he's probably going to take this to court to try and finally own a team.

[Donnie Iris]

If anyone should know about shaving chicks' beards, it would someone from Pittburgh.



Just delaying the inevitable, by the way. Caps in 5...


Good one, redundant.

Caps in 5? All three of those games could have gone either way; quite bold. We'll see... I don't see it.

[Freakshow]

Game 2 was nowhere near a close game. The pens scored the third goal on a power play with less than 2 minutes left when the goalie was pulled, so it was 6 on 4. Funny thing is, if the Pens scored on the earlier 5 on 3, it would have been a very different game...

[Tenbatsuzen]

Sorry Matty...but hockey is done in Phoenix.


Coyotes filed for Chapter 11 (http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/05/c8776.html)

Hockey was done in Phoenix when they moved the stadium out to Glendale. I've seen two 'Yotes games in person. One was in Phoenix "proper" in the American West Arena, but it wasn't a great hockey venue. The other time was in Glendale. Awesome stadium, but it's in the middle of fucking nowhere, takes forever to get to, and you gotta deal with speed cameras the entire way there.

As Snoogans would say, FUCK THAT SHIT

I'll support the Hamilton team still as my "second" team, but Bettman sure as fuck better not get involved in stopping the sale or trying to pull some MLB-taking-over-the-expos shit.

The team can't pull in fans because of the ill-advised move to Glendale, and it won't last long enough for the Light Rail system to get up there. Plus, Phoenix is one of the most depressed metros in the country right now. The only thing keeping it afloat is it's tourism and retirement areas, something Detroit can't lay claim to.

[Tenbatsuzen]

the other thing is, Bettman better watch out. If he starts putting all of his focus on saving the Coyotes from RIM, I can see Wang selling the islanders to Basilie on an end-around.

[Fallon]

I'm really concerned at how the Bruins have been playing. Coming from such an emotional series to one with a team they don't have much of a history with. They are just playing terrible, can't clear the zone and they are having such a hard time setting up in the offensive zone.

:help:

[El Mudo]

with the reports not too long ago about toronto wanting a 2nd team is that where they're going ??

Thats where Balsillie wants to move them. He's tried it before (unsuccessfully) when he tried to buy Nashville (and when he tried to purchase the Penguins)

The league, in its infinite wisdom, HATES this guy, because it ruins their southern US marketing strategy. So they keep saying he's an "unfit owner", yet they felt the better alternative was to "steer" the Predators to a group with shady financing headed by Boots Del Biaggio, who turned out to (obviously) be crooked as all hell.

In this case, he's pretty much paying for them to operate while all this stuff with the League works out. The NHL removed the guy they had placed in charge of the franchise yesterday, so they now have control over the entire bankruptcy/solvency/movement issue. This is most definitely going to be solved in court in a really nasty way.



the other thing is, Bettman better watch out. If he starts putting all of his focus on saving the Coyotes from RIM, I can see Wang selling the islanders to Basilie on an end-around.


Being as Wang is on record as saying recently how he regrets buying the team, that's a really distinct possibility (of course, the league would still have to approve the sale of the Isles).

But wouldn't that be great for him if he bought the Isles, and then was able to move them to Hamilton with John Tavares as the star?

[El Mudo]

Good one, redundant.

Caps in 5? All three of those games could have gone either way; quite bold. We'll see... I don't see it.



The only silver lining I can see from the Caps side, is that they were completely dominated last night, and STILL almost stole the game. That makes me feel kinda confident.


Since Games 4 and 5 are back to back, this can turn around in a heartbeat.

[denko]

I'm really concerned at how the Bruins have been playing. Coming from such an emotional series to one with a team they don't have much of a history with. They are just playing terrible, can't clear the zone and they are having such a hard time setting up in the offensive zone.

:help:


i agree... they have played like shit this whole series. i'm willing to bet matt hunwick's ruptured spleen could play better D that steve montador. i can not stand that guy, he contriburtes NOTHING... DRESS HNIDY ALREADY!!!

[NickyL0885]

Thats where Balsillie wants to move them. He's tried it before (unsuccessfully) when he tried to buy Nashville (and when he tried to purchase the Penguins)

The league, in its infinite wisdom, HATES this guy, because it ruins their southern US marketing strategy. So they keep saying he's an "unfit owner", yet they felt the better alternative was to "steer" the Predators to a group with shady financing headed by Boots Del Biaggio, who turned out to (obviously) be crooked as all hell.

In this case, he's pretty much paying for them to operate while all this stuff with the League works out. The NHL removed the guy they had placed in charge of the franchise yesterday, so they now have control over the entire bankruptcy/solvency/movement issue. This is most definitely going to be solved in court in a really nasty way.






Being as Wang is on record as saying recently how he regrets buying the team, that's a really distinct possibility (of course, the league would still have to approve the sale of the Isles).

But wouldn't that be great for him if he bought the Isles, and then was able to move them to Hamilton with John Tavares as the star?

Maybe im too much the optimist, but I still cant see the Isles moving. No way the league wants it. You lose a great rivalry with the Rangers. NY NEEDS 2 sports teams. Dont try to sell me on the devils, they play in NEW JERSEY. I believe that Isles will stay and Wang will get what he wants in the end somehow.

[El Mudo]

Odd Twilight Zone moment of the day:

Pittsburgh beats DC 3-2 in OT

Wilkes-Barre/Scranton beats Hershey 3-2 in OT


Pens out shoot Caps 43-22

Baby Pens out shoot Bears 43-25

[denko]

.NY NEEDS 2 sports teams. Dont try to sell me on the devils, they play in NEW JERSEY.

does buffalo not count? because now they have 3... two of which are lousy, and the rags squeeked in so in reality they have 3 sucky teams.

[El Mudo]

Jerry Reinsdorf is rumoured to be in the running for purchasing the Coyotes and keep them in Glendale.. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-07-reinsdorf-nhlmay07,0,7594520.story)


What an amazingly random occurrence only a day after the guy who wants to move them to Southern Ontario makes a big play for them. How convenient for Commissioner Bettman!

Good analysis from Puck Daddy
(http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Is-Jerry-Reinsdorf-the-Coyotes-financial-oasis-;_ylt=AnM2iCao9vTLeHXH2kyWSmB_ppJ4?urn=nhl,161889)


It's not all that outlandish to believe Moyes acted quickly because Balsillie's offer wasn't going to be topped by another bidder at this time, and because Balsillie offered immediate and comprehensive relief for the Coyotes' many debts. Any delay would have allowed the NHL to broker its long-promised deal to keep the team in Glendale, and it wouldn't have been for Balsillie money. So Moyes attempted to take control back from the League by going Chapter 11 and making a deal with a dude they'd never deal with.

[Donnie Iris]

http://dve.com/pages/morningshow.html

I was listening to local radio on my way to work this morning and heard this... It's pretty good.


Under recent podcasts on the lefthand side, click on the most recent "DVE Mario - Day After Letang Goal"

Or don't, but I think it's worth it.