2009 NHL Offseason Discussion

[NickyL0885]

does buffalo not count? because now they have 3... two of which are lousy, and the rags squeeked in so in reality they have 3 sucky teams.

eh. Buffalo may be apart of NY but no one cares about them outside of there own city.

[cougarjake13]

exactly



no one considers upstate ny and their teams as part of the city and its teams

[El Mudo]

Some knucklehead Pittsburgh fan makes an Ovechkin death threat on a message board (http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/in-the-room/2009/may/07/threat-against-ovechkin/)

The threat was made on the Penguins' official message board during Game 2. It was on page 58 of the official game 2 thread, but it has sense been removed.

It was made by someone with the handle "pensforlife87" and it said "Im killing Ovechkin i'll go to jail i dont care anymore."


EDIT:

And here is ye olde screen shot (courtesy of Puck Daddy)


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[denko]

loosely translated that means "i want to suck crosby's cock, i don't care anymore", besides, russian machine don't break.

and "sense" he made the threat will there be an investigation

[jessicaduh]

The threat was made on the Penguins' official message board during Game 2. It was on page 58 of the official game 2 thread, but it has sense been removed.

oh, Pittsburgh. sigh. that's not even a homophone.

[MHasegawa]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Fuck you, Vancouver!!

[Donnie Iris]

oh, Pittsburgh. sigh. that's not even a homophone.

That was from the blog reporting the story, not Pittsburgh.

You're going to come at this city when you're from Arkansas? Really?

[El Mudo]

That was from the blog reporting the story, not Pittsburgh.

You're going to come at this city when you're from Arkansas? Really?


Yeah....even I gotta side with Pittsburgh on that one

[Donnie Iris]

loosely translated that means "i want to suck crosby's cock, i don't care anymore", besides, russian machine don't break.

and "sense" he made the threat will there be an investigation

I'd like a loose translation of what the hell you're trying to say with this post.

[denko]

I'd like a loose translation of what the hell you're trying to say with this post.

that pensforlife87 is a douche bag, to come out and say he's going to kill ovechkin because he's beating the penguins is pretty fucking stupid. his undying man-love for crosby is clouding his judgement. then i alluded to a comment he [ovechkin] made during allstar weekend to tim thomas after he smashed into the boards... anything else? i'm not insulting your precious pittsburgh, i actually like the pens.

if i in some way hurt your feelings i apologize, i would say the same thing if a bruins fan said some stupid shit about eric stall, or cole. unless you are pensforlife87...?

[Donnie Iris]

that pensforlife87 is a douche bag, to come out and say he's going to kill ovechkin because he's beating beating the penguins is pretty fucking stupid. his undying man-love for crosby is clouding his judgement. thats not you is it, pensforlife87?

Wow, what an enlightening and bold take on this story. That took some balls...

Yep, it was me.

[Donnie Iris]

that pensforlife87 is a douche bag, to come out and say he's going to kill ovechkin because he's beating the penguins is pretty fucking stupid. his undying man-love for crosby is clouding his judgement. then i alluded to a comment he [ovechkin] made during allstar weekend to tim thomas after he smashed into the boards... anything else? i'm not insulting your precious pittsburgh, i actually like the pens.

Wait, I read a different post than the one above I think.

[denko]

yes, forgive me, i edited my post

[denko]

i wanted to clarify my stance without posting back to back 7 times.

[burrben]

go blue jackets...oh wait

[denko]

Wow, what an enlightening and bold take on this story. That took some balls...



good luck tonight...

[Donnie Iris]

good luck tonight...

umm, likewise

[Annie Waits]

go canes! i'm so happy to be living in NC

[denko]

canes are smothering the bruins, forcing them to make bad passes, they can't even get out of their own end.

ovechkin throws a nice knee and gets two minutes for tripping? ANYONE else thats a match penalty. bullshit.

[jessicaduh]

That was from the blog reporting the story, not Pittsburgh.

You're going to come at this city when you're from Arkansas? Really?

pay attention. i live in Pittsburgh. the Arkansas thing is a ruse. relax, bud.

[hammersavage]

Haha. Burn

[nate1000]

1. Chara is a chump over-rated cunt.
2. Staal has aids and needs to die in a fire.
3. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but:
THERE IS NO FUCKING CHEERLEADING IN HOCKEY!!!!11!!

you fucking southern assholes go watch nascar and quit ruining my sport

wtf is up with ovie? this is 2 games now that he's been meh at best.

[Donnie Iris]

canes are smothering the bruins, forcing them to make bad passes, they can't even get out of their own end.

ovechkin throws a nice knee and gets two minutes for tripping? ANYONE else thats a match penalty. bullshit.

That was fucked. I think Gonchar may be seriously injured. What a cunt move that was...

[denko]

That was fucked. I think Gonchar may be seriously injured. What a cunt move that was...

he pulled a similar move on wideman earlier in the season, it wasn't as bad but he's kinda making a name for himself with hits like that. the whole game i was waiting for one of the pens to knock his teeth out, i have to say i'm a little disappointed.

[yojimbo7248]

1. Chara is a chump over-rated cunt.
2. Staal has aids and needs to die in a fire.
3. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but:
THERE IS NO FUCKING CHEERLEADING IN HOCKEY!!!!11!!

you fucking southern assholes go watch nascar and quit ruining my sport

wtf is up with ovie? this is 2 games now that he's been meh at best.

I am with you, brother, but it's not just a southern thing. Devils have cheerleaders. it's idiotic.

[Fallon]

I am with you, brother, but it's not just a southern thing. Devils have cheerleaders. it's idiotic.

Bruins have "ice girls". Nice to look at during the tv timeouts, bending over and shoveling up the ice. Ohhh ya.

[cougarjake13]

Bruins have "ice girls". Nice to look at during the tv timeouts, bending over and shoveling up the ice. Ohhh ya.



lightning have them also

[Fallon]

Motherfucker, this has been an awesome game and a storm just started and my dish has been in and out.

[denko]

another OT game. i think its gonna be pitt.

[cougarjake13]

Motherfucker, this has been an awesome game and a storm just started and my dish has been in and out.

thats why i hate dish and direct tv


esp here in fla during storm season

[Fallon]

Hawks win!

Canucks fans are throwing shit on the ice. Losers.

[Donnie Iris]

I wish they just kept playing on consecutive days...

[Snoogans]

Hawks win!

Canucks fans are throwing shit on the ice. Losers.

Arent you gonna do that when Carolina beats the Bruins?

[keithy_19]

Arent you gonna do that when Carolina beats the Bruins?

I really hope they don't. C'mon Fallon. Get the B's to start playing how they did during the regular season.

[SHWA25GUNNER]

lightning have them also

and sometimes they don't even skate. embarassing.

[denko]

I really hope they don't. C'mon Fallon. Get the B's to start playing how they did during the regular season.


mission accomplished! all kinds of cheap shit by the canes tonight. can't wait for tuesday.

[Fallon]

mission accomplished! all kinds of cheap shit by the canes tonight. can't wait for tuesday.

That third man in sucker punch to Ward was a pussy move. He didn't even Aaron time to drop the gloves. If Walker gets to play next game someone is gonna give him a beating and I wouldn't be surprised if it was Chara.

[keithy_19]

That third man in sucker punch to Ward was a pussy move. He didn't even Aaron time to drop the gloves. If Walker gets to play next game someone is gonna give him a beating and I wouldn't be surprised if it was Chara.

Canes pulled that dirty shit against the Devils in the first round. Unfortunately, the Devils are pussies with little to no back bone so no one stood up. God I wish Stevens and Daneyko were around for that series.

[denko]

Ward examined for broken orbital bone. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=422283&intcmpid=tckr)

i think paul maurice and the canes just brought a world of hurt on to themselves.

[nate1000]

Bruins have "ice girls". Nice to look at during the tv timeouts, bending over and shoveling up the ice. Ohhh ya.

Ice Girls are OK. At least they skate. Cheerleaders, though :thumbdown:

[denko]

$2500 fine for walker... i hope he gets his orbital bone broken on tuesday. the canes are just throwing gas on the fire at this point. they managed to keep the emotion out of the bruins game for the first 4 but they're fucked now. the B's need to go into carolina and stomp them out.

[stump12]

What an embarrasment this is. The NHL rule is an automatic 1 game suspension but someones oversees every incident and decided to over rule it.
WTF If a Bruin did this I dont think I could argue a 1 game suspension

[keithy_19]

Just want to throw it out there that I HATE Crosby and I hate the NHL discipline board.

*and refs

[Donnie Iris]

Just want to throw it out there that I HATE Crosby and I hate the NHL discipline board.

*and refs

Just want to throw it out there that your team is shit.

[Freakshow]

nice freaking call by the ref. Who calls a penalty in the final 2 minutes of a deciding game. It just never happens, except when your team has the golden boy, I guess.

[Donnie Iris]

sorry, I'm a little tense. I don't give a shit that you hate Crosby.

[Donnie Iris]

nice freaking call by the ref. Who calls a penalty in the final 2 minutes of a deciding game. It just never happens, except when your team has the golden boy, I guess.

I thought this was over in five?

[Freakshow]

I thought this was over in five?

See above. When the NHL wants your team to lose, you almost always do.


Goddamn I hate Penguins so much, I hate them so much I hate the Pirates just cause they play in that city.

[Freakshow]

We're Going Home Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[denko]

nice tip... who honestly didn't see this going 7?

[Freakshow]

nice tip... who honestly didn't see this going 7?

certainly no one at the league office. ;)

[keithy_19]

Just want to throw it out there that your team is shit.

My team is what they are...

...and the refs don't like my team all that much.

[Donnie Iris]

[QUOTE=Freakshow;2250920]See above. When the NHL wants your team to lose, you almost always do.


So, is that why the Pens lost last night? God, as much as I hate the Caps, their fans at least seem to bitch about phantom conspiracies much less frequent than that of say Philly. I also thought they were smarter and a displayed a little more class. You're proving that quite wrong.

[El Mudo]

Gloating Boston Fan Photoshop Contest (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Contest-Gallery-Great-moments-in-gloating-Bruin;_ylt=AgF38i99KMu5pU.Jjc1aZvJ_ppJ4?urn=nhl,16 2859)


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[KEITHJAY]

bruins Win Bruins Win Bruins Win bruins Win

[weekapaugjz]

i hope the ducks win tonight. i really want to be able to watch 3 game 7's.

[Gvac]

i hope the ducks win tonight. i really want to be able to watch 3 game 7's.

Go fuck yourself.

I don't need the ulcers.

And NHL?

PUT THE WINGS IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE!!!

These late games are a killer.

[weekapaugjz]

Go fuck yourself.

I don't need the ulcers.

And NHL?

PUT THE WINGS IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE!!!

These late games are a killer.

i would love for the wings to be in the eastern conference. then maybe i'd be able to see them in the regular season once in awhile.

[weekapaugjz]

i despise the behind the net powerplay camera view.

[weekapaugjz]

not looking too good for the wings, gvac...

[spoon]

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[weekapaugjz]

hey gvac, how those ulcers now?

[Suspect Chin]

One of the best playoff seasons (hockey and basketball) I can remember in a long long time.

[keithy_19]

Go fuck yourself.

I don't need the ulcers.

And NHL?

PUT THE WINGS IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE!!!

These late games are a killer.

I love the west coast games. My insomnia needs them.

And game seven in all these series are going to be effing great.

[Gvac]

Fucking Red Wings.

I hate hockey.

[denko]

go bruins!

[nate1000]

go bruins!


X2

(and go Caps!)

[El Mudo]

I HATE Game 7s

:flush::flush:

Gametime is so close, yet so far away

[denko]

caps got all the momentum going home and all the pressure is on pitt. i honestly think it could go either way.

[hammersavage]

Well this is certainly a let down for the league

[keithy_19]

caps got all the momentum going home and all the pressure is on pitt. i honestly think it could go either way.

The game has been unwatchable. The first few minutes were exciting. Now it's just boring. Hate games where the outcome is decided before the middle of the second.

[keithy_19]

Well this is certainly a let down for the league

I say Ovechkin and Crosby duke it out. Ya know, just for the fun of it.

[denko]

not at all the game i expected.

caps are just skating around out there. i'm not sure they were ever in it.

[denko]

ovechkin's best hit of the night and it was on backstrom.

[cougarjake13]

well i doubt anyone wants to see a pitt detriot rematch outside of those 2 cities

[Gvac]

Way to go, Washington.

I'm sure your hometown fans really appreciate the effort you put forth tonight in a Game 7 on your home ice.

Pathetic.

[Landblast]

i never thought one player could single-handedly sink an entire team's season's efforts. it was so fucking obvious, i'll go so far as to say the Russian mafia was involved in paying off Simeon Varlamov.


Either you were paid-off or you will always belong in the MINORS. It depends on GMGM.


great job Pens, it was a great series until asshole decided money was more important than a championship.

[Donnie Iris]

i never thought one player could single-handedly sink an entire team's season's efforts. it was so fucking obvious, i'll go so far as to say the Russian mafia was involved in paying off Simeon Varlamov.


Either you were paid-off or you will always belong in the MINORS. It depends on GMGM.


great job Pens, it was a great series until asshole decided money was more important than a championship.

Wow, are you awful...

Beyond you and your team...
"Washington can do the same as Pittsburgh, except we'll win the Cup." - Alexander Ovechkin

Response?

[Landblast]

Wow, are you awful...

Beyond you and your team...
"Washington can do the same as Pittsburgh, except we'll win the Cup." - Alexander Ovechkin

Response?

congratulations to the Pens, great series,... i think everyone knows, if you don't play a perfect game in the post-season against the Pens, you lose. i think with our young core group we'll be competitive, but who ever thought our goalie would be subject to a financial bribe????

[denko]

so you're really going to shit on varlamov after he took you as far as he did? the WHOLE team sucked balls last night, it wasn't all him. the caps were never in that game. blame anyone you want, but its silly to put it all on him. maybe of ovechkin wasn't gliding around all night hoping someone would give him the puck (and just sitting on the ice admiring crosby's breakaway after turning the puck over) the outcome would have been different. they gave up after they got down by three, all of them. and how about mr awesome mike green? what was he, a -4 last night? go ahead, pin it on the rookie and pull out some conspiracy theory.

[AKA]

Fantastic season - great series - the Caps choked when it mattered the most. What a night to play the worst game from the best season - wow! - just inane.

And what a night for Fleury to finally get strong. Caps should have had his number the whole time - he was definately beatable, until last night - but it became clear that after the shitty ref calls, the Caps collectively got the memo that it wasn't going to be. Game 4 and on they were just going through the motions for much of the games - Game 6 really was a fluke. Ovie can't do it all. Varlamov can't do it all. I'm sure if Washington had won Game 7, the NHL would have found a way to make it a Best out of 9.

[El Mudo]

so you're really going to shit on varlamov after he took you as far as he did? the WHOLE team sucked balls last night, it wasn't all him. the caps were never in that game. blame anyone you want, but its silly to put it all on him. maybe of ovechkin wasn't gliding around all night hoping someone would give him the puck (and just sitting on the ice admiring crosby's breakaway after turning the puck over) the outcome would have been different. they gave up after they got down by three, all of them. and how about mr awesome mike green? what was he, a -4 last night? go ahead, pin it on the rookie and pull out some conspiracy theory.



Varlamov turned 21 two weeks ago, and has played a grand total of 19 NHL games (6 in the regular season, and 13 in the playoffs). If any Caps fan takes a shit on him, they're a complete idiot.

I mean, really, how much did you expect the guy to do? He made some great saves, and kept the Caps from being swept. Replace him with Theodore? The series is over in 5 at best. They were outplayed the entire series, and that's not Varlamov's fault. Look at the volume of shots the Pens put on him:

36, 36, 42, 28, 42, 42 and 18 (last night, after a period and a half)

Compared to how many the Caps put on Fleury:

26, 33, 23, 22, 31, 24, 21

That says to me right there, that the Pens controlled the entire series. That DC's inability to mount any kind of forecheck, keep Pittsburgh from long periods of puck possession, get the puck deep into the Pens' offensive zone was WAY more to blame for their loss in this series than anything Varlamov did.

If you don't forecheck, get shots on net, or play defence, you're not gonna win playoff serieseseseseseses. In retrospect, its absolutely stunning that this went 7 games, and was within one goal in OT of being 3-0 Caps at one point (shows you the main weak link in Pittsburgh is Marc-Andre Fleury, because he gave up some pretty bad goals, and Sergei Gonchar is a huge part of their offence. If he can't go against Boston/Carolina, its not going to go well for Pittsburgh).

Wow, are you awful...

Beyond you and your team...
"Washington can do the same as Pittsburgh, except we'll win the Cup." - Alexander Ovechkin

Response?



What else can I say? Pittsburgh was a better team, they played better, and they deserved to win the series.

[keithy_19]

What else can I say? Pittsburgh was a better team, they played better, and they deserved to win the series.

What you say is this: 'I'd still rather go to a bar with Ovie than with that nancy boy Crosby'.

:smile:

[keithy_19]

. maybe of ovechkin wasn't gliding around all night hoping someone would give him the puck (and just sitting on the ice admiring crosby's breakaway after turning the puck over) the outcome would have been different. .

I'm not going to say that Crosby isn't a great player, but he cherry picks. It's not like Ovechkin doesn't make plays happen as well. The Caps had trouble getting the puck out of their zone. The offense didn't fall back enough to help the defense. And to put the whole series on Ovechkin is real shitty. Hockey is a team sport. You can't win with just one person putting in the effort.

[AKA]

Really a shame, too - for the first time in my life (including the Caps 1998 Stanley Cup run, but maybe exclusing the Bullets win in the 70s) Washington was REALLY behind a sports team other than the Redskins.

Here's a blurb from DCRTV...

Comcast SportsNet's Wednesday night Capitals loss in playoff Game 7 got a 7.6 rating among men age 18-49 in the DC market. Beating even "Idol" in the demo. The game did a 3.4 rating in the demo in Baltimore, doubling an Orioles game on MASN. Also, CSN earned a 5.3 average household rating in DC with Game 6 on Monday. The Baltimore area chocked up a 3.4. That broadcast peaked at 238,000 households at 9:45 PM - to see the Capitals win in overtime. For the target demo of men age 18-49, Game 6 received a 6.0 rating and peaked with a 9.1.....

((sigh))

That game could have been a thing of greatness, but it becomes something else to forget.

[denko]

I'm not going to say that Crosby isn't a great player, but he cherry picks. It's not like Ovechkin doesn't make plays happen as well. The Caps had trouble getting the puck out of their zone. The offense didn't fall back enough to help the defense. And to put the whole series on Ovechkin is real shitty. Hockey is a team sport. You can't win with just one person putting in the effort.


i agree, and i wasn't really trying to pin it on one guy, i was trying to say that they lost that one as a team. it wasn't any one persons fault. and to say it was varlamov is fucking insane. the kid stood on his head just about every game he was in and they can thank him for even making it past the rangers. i'm not big into blaming one guy for a loss, you win as a team you lose as a team. i just really noticed how terrible ovechkin is/was in his own end. and like i said, after going down by three the wind was taken out of their sails and they fucking phined it in from there on. it was tough to watch. even down by four i didn't count them out, but it looked like they just layed down, to me anyway.

and i agree, aka, i was really impressed with the fact the fans cheered varlamov when he was pulled, and to me it didn't seem like they were cheering for the change, it was more a "thanks for taking us this far, kid" and i was impressed again that the place was still pretty much full at the end and they gave their team a nice round of applause. that was very cool.

that said... GO BRUINS!!

[Suspect Chin]

Why would they put both game sevens on simultaneously on different channels? It might work for a game like football where you can surf between plays, but not hockey.

[Fallon]

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[TjM]

Well that fucking blew. At least they made Hockey relevant in Boston again. Hopefully they do better next year

[DOHO@HOME]

A Fuckin Booooooooooooo That Was So Awful For A Ending To A Good Season.
Go Pens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Donnie Iris]

I'm not going to say that Crosby isn't a great player, but he cherry picks. It's not like Ovechkin doesn't make plays happen as well. The Caps had trouble getting the puck out of their zone. The offense didn't fall back enough to help the defense. And to put the whole series on Ovechkin is real shitty. Hockey is a team sport. You can't win with just one person putting in the effort.

Ha, cherry picks?? How is that even possible? It's not street hockey, the NHL does have offsides..

[TjM]

A Fuckin Booooooooooooo That Was So Awful For A Ending To A Good Season.
Go Pens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta go with Chicago or Detroit. Original 6 only please

[TjM]

Ha, cherry picks?? How is that even possible? It's not street hockey, the NHL does have offsides..

Would have been nice if they called it in the OT game when Samsonov scored to beat the B's in game 3 (or was it 4)

[nate1000]

anyone care to wager on how many times we hear the name Staal in the eastern conference finals? Over/under is 5,000.

How about the number of between period vignettes on the Staal family? Over/under on this is three.

How bout camera shots on the parents? 100?

[AKA]

Gotta go with Chicago or Detroit. Original 6 only please

Gotta go with the youngens in Chicago.

[nate1000]

Gotta go with the youngens in Chicago.

They are amazing- too dumb to figure out when the game is over.

[Donnie Iris]

Really a shame, too - for the first time in my life (including the Caps 1998 Stanley Cup run, but maybe exclusing the Bullets win in the 70s) Washington was REALLY behind a sports team other than the Redskins.

Here's a blurb from DCRTV...



((sigh))

That game could have been a thing of greatness, but it becomes something else to forget.

The ratings fucking killed here...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09135/970318-61.stm

From the article....

The deciding game in the series was the most-watched NHL game on FSN, surpassing Game 6, which drew a 24.2 rating and Game 5, which had a 21.2.

"The record ratings are further affirmation that Pittsburgh is a very rich and deep hockey market," said Ted Black, senior vice president and general manager of FSN Pittsburgh.

Game 7 also was the highest-rated NHL game for any FSN regional sports network and peaked at a 31.4 rating (361,000 households) from 9:15-9:30 p.m.

[denko]

Ha, cherry picks?? How is that even possible? It's not street hockey, the NHL does have offsides..

yea, but since they did away with the two line pass its very common. don't act like its impossible you see it all the time.

[Donnie Iris]

yea, but since they did away with the two line pass its very common. don't act like its impossible you see it all the time.

Umm, I'm pretty sure I don't. Of all the whining/jealousy I hear about the best player in the league (zing), this may take the cake as the most ridiculous. You don't see him get back and steal the puck on both ends all the time? I do.

[King Imp]

anyone care to wager on how many times we hear the name Staal in the eastern conference finals? Over/under is 5,000.

How about the number of between period vignettes on the Staal family? Over/under on this is three.

How bout camera shots on the parents? 100?

As long as they continue to show that NHL.com commercial with that piece of ass Carrie Milbank talking to the Staal parents, then I'm fine.

[denko]

Umm, I'm pretty sure I don't. Of all the whining/jealousy I hear about the best player in the league (zing), this may take the cake as the most ridiculous. You don't see him get back and steal the puck on both ends all the time? I do.

i didn't say he cherry picked. you seemed to think that because there is offsides it can't be done. you need to relax, man.

if crosby is the best, like you say, maybe he'll get the job done this time (zing).

[Freakshow]

It was hardly a secret that many of the Capitals played hurt during the playoffs, and McPhee and the players revealed Friday just how bad the injury situation was.

Defensemen Tom Poti and John Erskine each played with a broken foot. Semin had a badly sprained thumb that made it difficult for him to handle his stick. Mike Green had an ailing shoulder joint.

Ovechkin? He had groin and wrist injuries and said he wouldn't have been playing if it were the regular season. He hurt the groin during the Rangers series, yet he went on to tally eight goals and six assists against the Penguins.

Boudreau did not want to discuss the injuries, lest he be perceived as making excuses. The good news is that none of them are expected to require surgery.

"I'd love to sit here and say, 'Hey, we were so banged up we had nowhere to go,' but I'm sure the other teams are so banged up as well," Boudreau said. "All our key players had an injury."

[Donnie Iris]

i didn't say he cherry picked. you seemed to think that because there is offsides it can't be done. you need to relax, man.

if crosby is the best, like you say, maybe he'll get the job done this time (zing).

I'm completely calm. However, I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your post.

Hey, we're still playing.

[keithy_19]

Ha, cherry picks?? How is that even possible? It's not street hockey, the NHL does have offsides..

They do. But I'm thinking more of how some players hang out at center ice and wait for the puck to be moved to them. Crosby has done this. As has Jagr. Not taking anything away from them as players, but they do that.

Let me also say that Crosby has made some damn fine plays in his own end.

[Gvac]

Let's go Red Wings!

Chicago scares the piss out of me.

Here's hoping youth and inexperience is no match for the returning Cup champions.

[disneyspy]

im glad NBC has the sense to show the greatest dynasty in modern sports history today

LETS GO RED WINGS clap clap clapclapclap

[TheGameHHH]

is Detroit for real?

[disneyspy]

is Detroit for real?

as real as real can be,ozzies back

[Gvac]

I love seeing the Wings answer right back after giving up the tying goal. This series is going to be a dog fight, however.

[cougarjake13]

I love seeing the Wings answer right back after giving up the tying goal. This series is going to be a dog fight, however.

hopefully it goes 7

[keithy_19]

hopefully it goes 7

I'd love that. I was hoping for an orginial 6 cup final, but now I just want whoever from the west.

[weekapaugjz]

I'm completely calm. However, I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your post.

Hey, we're still playing.

holy shit! you play for the penguins!

[El Mudo]

Anyone else watching Memorial Cup on NHL Network?

That Rimouski-Windsor game yesterday was pretty damn awesome.


Drummondville and Kelowna are going tonight.

[Donnie Iris]

holy shit! you play for the penguins!

Well done. You - 1, Me- 0

[El Mudo]

Patrick Roy has been offered the Avs job (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_12393139)

[cougarjake13]

Patrick Roy has been offered the Avs job (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_12393139)

i think spoon just creamed himself

[Donnie Iris]

I like that the Pens won but don't we all wish it was the Bruins? The Canes are good, I get it, but it just seems to be a real let down after the Caps. I guess it's early...

[keithy_19]

I'm happy the NHL finally started calling goalie interference...ya know, so it helps the Penguins...

[Donnie Iris]

I'm happy the NHL finally started calling goalie interference...ya know, so it helps the Penguins...

Me too

[El Mudo]

Vinny rumoured to be headed to.............Los Angeles? (http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/darren_dreger/?id=279172)


The conversations surrounding Tampa Bay Lightning forward Vincent Lecavalier are likely to heat up as we get closer to July 1, when the no-trade clause on his contract kicks in.

The two teams mentioned most when Lecavalier's name comes up seem to be the Montreal Canadiens and Los Angeles Kings. With regards to the Kings, defenceman Jack Johnson is one of the players mentioned as possibly being involved in any deal with Tampa.

[El Mudo]

It could be a tough offseason in Boston (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2009/05/19/for_chiarelli_tight_cap_could_mean_headaches/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Bruins+news)



Chiarelli is clearly in a pickle if he intends to ink top restricted free agents David Krejci and Phil Kessel (both headed for surgery and extended rehabs) to new deals. Based on leaguewide speculation, it will cost a minimum $6 million per annum to keep both on the payroll, with higher estimates pegging their combined salaries at $9 million. All in all, not possible, unless Chiarelli offloads Patrice Bergeron ($4.75 million) or Michael Ryder ($4 million) or convinces the likes of, say, Marc Savard ($5 million) or Marco Sturm ($3.5 million) to surrender their no-trade clauses.

[denko]

fuck kessel, sign krejci, the kid is fucking awesome. in my opinion kessel is what he is, soft, lacks hustle and grit. krejci however, continues to improve and makes the guys around him better, kessel not so much. and he has one move that works maybe 1 out of ten times he tries. . the issue here is, bergeron (a fan favorite) got fucked up with his first concussion and hasn't been the same. his 4.75 was a steal when they inked it, but for 8 goals 31 assists in 64 games there is no room for him here, especially if the cap is going down. i like patrice, but he's not the same player he was, tough one here. and it gets even better next summer.

[Gvac]

Fucking Wings are intent on giving me ulcers.

I HATE playoff OT.

Way too nerve wracking.

[Gvac]

Thank you, Detroit, for ending that quickly.

[El Mudo]

NHL 10 sounds awesome... (http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4164444)


First person fights?

Turtling?

"The other big thing you can do is turtle if you don't want to fight. I can pick a fight with a superstar like Sidney Crosby(notes), and if there are no tough guys on the ice, Crosby will take the fight. But if I have Crosby in a fight, I might not want him to get hurt because you can get hurt in a fight, so I can turtle by pressing a button and he will just go down to the ice.

"On the other hand, if you have tough guys on the ice, to protect Sidney Crosby, a tough guy will jump in and fight for Crosby. That's a really cool feature and something that I've never seen in a hockey [video] game before. And it plays into our whole Team Toughness feature because you need to have tough guys on your team to protect your superstars."


Scrums??! I've ALWAYS wanted scrums in my hockey video games...there's only been one that I can recall that's ever had it

"Not only can you hit guys after the whistle, but now there are going to be penalties after the whistle if you go a bit too crazy like slashing a guy from behind into the boards. There are scrums after almost every play in the playoffs, so we wanted to add that in the game, and there is an effect for it.

"Another thing is that if you shoot the puck at my goalie after a whistle, my tough guy will come knock you on your ass."


This sounds cool too...

"Another cool thing we added this year is line matching at the opening face-off. So for the first time, you can put out your fourth line to start a game to go against the first line of the away team in order to try and intimidate them right away. We're even giving a little bit of an advantage to the home team by enabling them to pick a line after the away team picks theirs."

One of the things that really irks me about NHL 09 is the fact that I can't match lines, and my D pairs are pretty much wedded to what forward line I put out (like if after a play I switch to my top line, it will automatically put my top D pair out with them). I was able to do matching in 08, and was upset to see it taken out of 09 (along with the control system I used forever, I hate how they forced me to use the "new" controls).

"On the other hand, you have to play smart. You don't want to just hit someone from behind because we're adding a lot of penalties. You don't want to be stupid, you don't want to play too dirty, especially on your EA Sports Hockey League team. Every team is going to need at least one tough guy or they're going to get run over. At the same time we don't want this to be a gimmick. Being intimidated doesn't mean that all your players drop 10 points in overall attributes. That's not what this is. That's not hockey. What's going to change are the behaviors of players. If they're going to get hit, they might bobble a pass. This has nothing to do with attributes, it has to do with how your team is playing at the time."

Game sounds really really great...sucks that I have to wait 5 more monfs for it to come out

[denko]

that does sound good. i play 07 still on my pc. i play dynasty mode and it seems like i barely get through two seaons and the new version is out. i might have to pick this one up though.

[El Mudo]

that does sound good. i play 07 still on my pc. i play dynasty mode and it seems like i barely get through two seaons and the new version is out. i might have to pick this one up though.



I played through 3 full seasons and playoffs (with no sims) on NHL 08...I loved that game.

[Judge Smails]

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[El Mudo]

Looks like the Lighthouse project on the Island could be dead... (http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/05/lighthouse/)


Barring a dramatic turn of events, Charles Wang’s October 3 deadline for approvals on the Lighthouse Project is almost certain to come and go with little action from the Town of Hempstead. And when it does, the Islanders owner will have no other choice but to open conversations with other municipalities interested in Long Island’s National Hockey League franchise



He talks about maybe moving them to Brooklyn to play in the new Nets arena...actually, that doesn't seem like a really bad idea

[jessicaduh]

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that is all.

[Donnie Iris]

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that is all.

'nuff said.

Looks like we may be headed for a rematch from last year...

[Gvac]

No one is more surprised than me as to how well the Wings have played. I thought their age and goaltending would be their undoing and that they'd be long gone by now.

I too foresee a rematch of last year, but I think it's going to be the proverbial passing of the torch and the Pens will best them.

It reminds me of back in the 80's when the Islanders swept the young Edmonton Oilers. The very next year the same two teams met and the Oilers crushed the Isles, ending one dynasty and starting another one.

[hammersavage]

Anyone else think its bad for the league to have a rematch of last years finals? The playoffs have been so good but it seems anticlimactic.

[cougarjake13]

Anyone else think its bad for the league to have a rematch of last years finals? The playoffs have been so good but it seems anticlimactic.

me personally if my team isnt involved i hate rematches

[denko]

wow... chicago just had a meltdown.

[Donnie Iris]

So, is Crosby still overrated?

[spoon]

No one is more surprised than me as to how well the Wings have played. I thought their age and goaltending would be their undoing and that they'd be long gone by now.

I too foresee a rematch of last year, but I think it's going to be the proverbial passing of the torch and the Pens will best them.

It reminds me of back in the 80's when the Islanders swept the young Edmonton Oilers. The very next year the same two teams met and the Oilers crushed the Isles, ending one dynasty and starting another one.

The wings won't win it this year, don't you worry. It'll be Hawks/Pitt, and the Pens will win out in 6.

As for the goalies, all but Carolina are weak for final four teams in a Cup playoff year. Unfortunately, Pitt has WAY too much for their shitty D to handle, and it also hides the shitty play of their goalie (Fleury), just the same as Detroit's play does for Osgood. The coaching of the Wings is easily the best in my mind, and that's the main reason outside of calls (sorry they get so fucking many for a team filled with divers like Zet and Dat)....but the coach is top shelf (that hurts to say).

The Hawks took a huge blow the other day though with Havlat going down, but we're yet to see how they adapt/man up after the hit. Overall, the hit was clean even if the guy didn't touch the puck. Sure it was violent and Kron has a history of it, but it's the fucking NHL. While I don't think it's a penalty one bit, I DO think the Hawks HAVE to lay out Zet, Dat and Lind all fucking day. If not, they lose. If you don't answer a violent hit like that on a top player, you simply don't win in the playoffs. The skill players on Detroit should keep their heads up. However, this is Q we're talking about, and he's not the brightest coach in the world. This team is so fucking talented and wins in spite of him, that much I assure you.

[spoon]

So, is Crosby still overrated?

Who ever said that? I believe people don't like his whiny nature and cheap attempts at fighting, not his skill. Still, I like Malkin's game better to this day....and Ovechkins. Top three is better than one top 20 player in the case of my Avs (and that's a stretch).

#9 Matt Duchene can't come quick enough baby!

[Donnie Iris]

Who ever said that? I believe people don't like his whiny nature and cheap attempts at fighting, not his skill. Still, I like Malkin's game better to this day....and Ovechkins. Top three is better than one top 20 player in the case of my Avs (and that's a stretch).

#9 Matt Duchene can't come quick enough baby!

Who ever said that? I'm not saying you did, but there were quite a few folks with that opinion.

[El Mudo]

Looks like next year's Winter Classic is going to be in Fenway
(http://boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2009/05/24/chiarelli_has_some_operating_to_do/?page=full)


Yes, there will be a sheet of ice in Fenway Park for a Jan. 1 Winter Classic. It's a done deal, Bruins vs. either the Capitals or Flyers. The league will make it official at the start of July, with a splashy media event in the old ballpark. NHL free agency begins July 1, which grabs headlines around league cities (except for Phoenix, of course) for 2-3 days. The Sox play at home July 3-12. If the league wants the day for full media attention, it likely will wait for July 13-14 to make official all details, including how to purchase tickets.

[jessicaduh]

i love hossa. what a fucking killer instinct. i miss him being on the pens.

[Gvac]

The wings won't win it this year, don't you worry. It'll be Hawks/Pitt


Still feeling good about that prediction, buddy?

No Lidstrom, no Datsyuk? No problem!

Like I said, I can foresee Pitt beating Detroit for the Cup this year, but the Wings continue to amaze me.

[spoon]

Still feeling good about that prediction, buddy?

No Lidstrom, no Datsyuk? No problem!

Like I said, I can foresee Pitt beating Detroit for the Cup this year, but the Wings continue to amaze me.

Not only was Q outcoached, his poise yesterday was a joke. His team played EXACTLY the way a supremely talented group would under an awful coach. Still, the Wings get more bs calls in their favor only to second to the Pens. Everytime the Hawks picked up the hitting, they called a penalty. I'm really angry at the reffing this year in the playoffs as it's starting to resemble that of the NBA reffed games in that they seemingly already picked the teams "they" want in the finals.

Also, I don't/can't understand how they have YET to answer that huge hit on Hvlat. A team simply can't win without showing that they're willing to defend and answer in situations like that. Last night they had a shot too since the game was all but over. Sure there were scraps and scrums, but the fucking WINGS were the aggressors and drew calls, not the opposite.

[disneyspy]

chicago is nuthin but cheap shot artists that didnt get called for alot of the bs they pulled in the first period,that shorthanded goal to start the scorin for the wings was a great FU to all the chicago thuggery. the hawks are nowhere close to the wings in talent and have to resort to the broadway bullies mentality to try and stay close. if games were called the way they're supposed to be called that woulda been a 10-1 game. bring on the pens

[spoon]

chicago is nuthin but cheap shot artists that didnt get called for alot of the bs they pulled in the first period,that shorthanded goal to start the scorin for the wings was a great FU to all the chicago thuggery. the hawks are nowhere close to the wings in talent and have to resort to the broadway bullies mentality to try and stay close. if games were called the way they're supposed to be called that woulda been a 10-1 game. bring on the pens

COME ON DS! Holmstrom punches people on every play, hits people on their way to changes on the bench and the wings get a PP. Then there's a scrum at the end of the period and the refs call WALKER for being there and it was a HUGE call (BS) in this game. It's hockey, you either call it all, or none and as someone who plays I prefer you keep the arm dowm unless it's a sure thing. They claimed this is what they were going for, yet called the Hawks only in multiple scrums. If you think one should put out a hit with nothing but intent to injure (legal but what the Kron hit was) on a top player and reap no rewards, you haven't played the game. Bettman continues to pussify this game with his direction and the way he wants it to flow. I'm positive he made it a point to make sure those refs called this game tight for the "public image" of the game after that hit to "control" this nationally televised series. I use nationally televised series very loosely too.

[disneyspy]

that scrum at the end (and the announcers missed it) was for comin off the bench,they were in a 4 on 4 and i saw the 5 hawks players and was screamin at my tv screen

[spoon]

that scrum at the end (and the announcers missed it) was for comin off the bench,they were in a 4 on 4 and i saw the 5 hawks players and was screamin at my tv screen

It's simply not true DS, he got a roughing penalty.

[disneyspy]

It's simply not true DS, he got a roughing penalty.

but cuz he was instigating AND they had a guy come over the boards to get in on it,Q is a joke as a coach,cant control his players and chicago only got where they're at cuz no one wanted (i'm not gonna check the spellin) khalabulin they suck more than the avs

[spoon]

but cuz he was instigating AND they had a guy come over the boards to get in on it,Q is a joke as a coach,cant control his players and chicago only got where they're at cuz no one wanted (i'm not gonna check the spellin) khalabulin they suck more than the avs

While we agree on Q, the talent on this team isn't even a question. Kane, Toews, Sharp, Versteeg, Bufdkjaifji2f2jjqjfidjag (spelling) and plenty more. While I agree (as I've stated they/Q lost control) the Hawks needed to control themselves better, they also STILL had to answer that hit with one on Zett or some other skill player. Not so much the punch or elbow shot after every whistle, but a big/legal hit with no intent other than laying the motherfucker out showing two can play that game if that's what they're looking for. Show them that if they want to go that route, ur game. Trust me, no team wants it this late in the playoffs, especially looking down the shot at a Cup in the next round.

[disneyspy]

even with the big names nursin injuries the wings are way more talented than the hawks,i dont want to see any more players get hurt cuz the hawks are out of it and they know it,this whole series has been dump and grind and be a thug by the hawks cuz they dont have the passing,speed or goal scorers that the wings have,oh and i have played the game and appreciate the crispness that is the wings.sure they're a more european type of team but its alot more fun to watch than the boring mess that is 80% of the NHL teams

[keithy_19]

So, is Crosby still overrated?

I never said Crosby is overrated. In fact, I believe I said he is a great player. The NHL sure does love to nurse him though. I agree with Spoon in saying that Ovechkin and Malkin are better.

[Donnie Iris]

I never said Crosby is overrated. In fact, I believe I said he is a great player. The NHL sure does love to nurse him though. I agree with Spoon in saying that Ovechkin and Malkin are better.

I didn't say you had but others did. Yeah, I used to think Ovechkin was clearly the best but now I'm not so sure. He's not nearly as strong on both ends as the other two.

[El Mudo]

Pat Quinn has been hired to coach the Edmonton Oilers, with Tom Renney as his assistant (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=279979)

Also looks like Viktor Kozlov and Sergei Fedorov are headed to the KHL (and Nik Zherdev turned down a KHL deal)

[disneyspy]

the blackhawks can shave those beards tommorow

[drjoek]

What a bizarre goal. Guy flips it in and the goalie just missed the little popup

[weekapaugjz]

that talbot goal was one of the weakest goals i have ever seen in my life. ward fucking blows.

and that douche on versus actually said, "OMG!" when it went in. seriously? what's the target audience on that network? 11 year old girls?

[cougarjake13]

Pat Quinn has been hired to coach the Edmonton Oilers, with Tom Renney as his assistant (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=279979)

Also looks like Viktor Kozlov and Sergei Fedorov are headed to the KHL (and Nik Zherdev turned down a KHL deal)

whats the khl ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

whats the khl ??

Russia's version of the NHL.

[cougarjake13]

Russia's version of the NHL.

ok thanx

[El Mudo]

ok thanx

They made a lot of headlines this summer by "poaching" established NHL players, like Jaromir Jagr, Ray Emery and Alexander Radulov. Radulov's case was particularly worrisome because unlike Jagr, he was under contract to Nashville, and just simply left for Ufa and big KHL money

[Donnie Iris]

that talbot goal was one of the weakest goals i have ever seen in my life. ward fucking blows.

and that douche on versus actually said, "OMG!" when it went in. seriously? what's the target audience on that network? 11 year old girls?

Holy shit. I was out with this girl at a bar last night and she said she heard the announcer yell, "OMG!" and I told her she was crazy. Wow.

[denko]

They made a lot of headlines this summer by "poaching" established NHL players, like Jaromir Jagr, Ray Emery and Alexander Radulov. Radulov's case was particularly worrisome because unlike Jagr, he was under contract to Nashville, and just simply left for Ufa and big KHL money

didn't they offer jagr like $12m for 2 yrs tax free or something? and i thought i read the flyers were talking to emery.

[El Mudo]

didn't they offer jagr like $12m for 2 yrs tax free or something? and i thought i read the flyers were talking to emery.


Sorry...that should have been "last" summer instead of "this" summer

They threw a boatload of cash at Jagr, which he took because he's (a) got massive gambling debts and (b) its all tax free. There was a pretty crazy rumour that Jagr was coming back to the NHL at the deadline to play for Edmonton

Link (http://communities.canada.com/edmontonjournal/blogs/hockey/archive/2009/02/10/jagr-close-to-signing-with-edmonton-oilers.aspx)


Emery went over there last year (like John Grahame did, and Robert Esche a few years ago) because no one wanted him here. He was talking to the Flyers last I read, but no deal as of yet.

Link (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090505_Flyers_interested_in_volatile_Emery.html)

[El Mudo]

Patrick Roy turns down Avalanche job (http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_12458396)

[nate1000]

Canes should just be wrapping up the eighteenth right about now.

Suck it.



http://www.hensonbrooms.com/photos/large/brooms/Kitchen_Broom.jpg

[ihaveabadmonkey]

with all these injuries that Detroit is piling up, i think the Pens are going to steamroll right through them in the finals.

[El Mudo]

Ruh Roh (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/26/authorities-trumpet-massive-steroids-bust-polk/news-breaking/)

But they're still trying to determine whether Richard Thomas was telling the truth when he said he is the biggest steroid provider in Central Florida and that he sold mostly to professional athletes, including those on the Washington Capitals hockey team and Washington Nationals baseball team.

The Thomases, who live in Lakeland, were arrested Tuesday after a tip from the Philadelphia office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Sheriff Grady Judd said that detectives seized an estimated $200,000 in illegal steroids when the pair was arrested.

A spokesman for the Capitals said the team is gathering information and expects to have a statement later. Messages seeking comment weren't immediately returned by Major League Baseball or the National Hockey League.

Washington Nationals President Stan Kasten said the team is using its resources to learn more about the case, according to the Washington Times. Capitals defenseman Donald Brashear told Baltimore radio station WJFK-AM he wasn't aware of steroid use by teammates.

BTW...best mug shots ever

http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/145/140/2009/05/26/2684_052609-richard-thomas.jpg

http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/145/140/2009/05/26/2685_052609-sandra-thomas.jpg



EDIT: Nice fact checking...when did Brashear become a defenceman?

[El Mudo]

with all these injuries that Detroit is piling up, i think the Pens are going to steamroll right through them in the finals.



Meh....Lidstrom and Datsyuk didn't play in the last game and Detroit was okay.

[nate1000]

with all these injuries that Detroit is piling up, i think the Pens are going to steamroll right through them in the finals.

Doubt it. They may be able to push it to seven, though.

[Donnie Iris]

with all these injuries that Detroit is piling up, i think the Pens are going to steamroll right through them in the finals.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here...

Not that I've made a huge effort, but I can't find anything on the Stanley Cup scheduling. I know that it's dictated by the Western Series at this point, but does anyone know when it would start if the series ends tonight?

[Gvac]

The NHL said they'd try to start the Finals this Saturday if the Detroit/Chicago series ended tonight.

[denko]

hockey players are real men, not pussy baseball players. they don't need steriods.

[denko]

dumb question... what ever happened to khabibulin? did they say?

i watched him give up 3 in 4 mins and never saw him again.

[cougarjake13]

and the rematch is set


detriot wins in overtime

[keithy_19]

Yay! A rematch that only pleases people from Detroit, Pittsburgh, and the league office in Toronto!

[Donnie Iris]

Yay! A rematch that only pleases people from Detroit, Pittsburgh, and the league office in Toronto!

Yeah, who wouldn't have wanted that epic matchup of a team based out of Raliegh, NC and a young Chicago team that has yet to (probably will soon) prove anything?

The vast and rabid Cane Nation has to be crushed...

[denko]

i had no vested interest in that game, but i did feel bad for huet. played a great game and the winning goal sucked.

i think pit will win this time.

[Gvac]

Gather 'round, kiddies, and let ol' Uncle Gvac tell you about the 1983 and 1984 Stanley Cup Finals.

You see, there was a dynasty named The New York Islanders (seriously! I'm not joking!) and in 1983 they were going for their 4th Cup in a row. In their was was a young upstart team called the Edmonton Oilers. They were an offensive dynamo, loaded with talented young kids. Hardly anyone on the team was over 24 or 25 years old. They didn't pay much attention to defense, though, and the wily old veterans from the Island swept 'em in 4 straight.

The very next year the two teams met again. Apparently those Oilers learned a thing or three from their humiliation the previous year, and they not only shored up their defense but skated circles around the aging Cup champions. They halted the Islanders quest for a 5th Cup and started a dynasty of their own.

Anyone else see an eerie parallel?

[keithy_19]

Yeah, who wouldn't have wanted that epic matchup of a team based out of Raliegh, NC and a young Chicago team that has yet to (probably will soon) prove anything?

The vast and rabid Cane Nation has to be crushed...

I didn't want Carolina to win. I have nothing against the Wings. It just doesn't have much appeal to me at all. I'll watch, but I won't go out of my way to.

[Donnie Iris]

Gather 'round, kiddies, and let ol' Uncle Gvac tell you about the 1983 and 1984 Stanley Cup Finals.

You see, there was a dynasty named The New York Islanders (seriously! I'm not joking!) and in 1983 they were going for their 4th Cup in a row. In their was was a young upstart team called the Edmonton Oilers. They were an offensive dynamo, loaded with talented young kids. Hardly anyone on the team was over 24 or 25 years old. They didn't pay much attention to defense, though, and the wily old veterans from the Island swept 'em in 4 straight.

The very next year the two teams met again. Apparently those Oilers learned a thing or three from their humiliation the previous year, and they not only shored up their defense but skated circles around the aging Cup champions. They halted the Islanders quest for a 5th Cup and started a dynasty of their own.

Anyone else see an eerie parallel?


Yeah, I do. But I don't like this continuous, pre-emptive soft talk.

Thought you were the alpha male around here?

[Donnie Iris]

I didn't want Carolina to win. I have nothing against the Wings. It just doesn't have much appeal to me at all. I'll watch, but I won't go out of my way to.

Yeah, I kind of understand what you're saying but as far as national appeal, I don't know who else could top this re-match.

[Gvac]

Yeah, I do. But I don't like this continuous, pre-emptive soft talk.

Thought you were the alpha male around here?

Ha!

I'm a realist too.

Add in Detroit's injuries (and I'm NOT making excuses) and I fully expect this Cup Final to be the proverbial passing of the torch.

[epo]

Are you canadians still watching this shit?

[Gvac]

Are you canadians still watching this shit?

Not all of us are wimps who like basketball.

"He touched me!!! That's a FOUL!!!"

[epo]

Not all of us are wimps who like basketball.

"He touched me!!! That's a FOUL!!!"

Hasn't the ice melted? Its nearly June!

[denko]

ah yes, gvac, i remember watching that very same oiler team trounce my bruins a time or two (88 and 90). they smoked everyone in their path on their way to 5 cups in 7 years, and 6 finals appearances in 8 years!

[Gvac]

ah yes, gvac, i remember watching that very same oiler team trounce my bruins a time or two (88 and 90). they smoked everyone in their path on their way to 5 cups in 7 years, and 6 finals appearances in 8 years!

I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw them trounce the Islanders.

It truly was the end of an era. Back then we got SportsChannel on cable and I watched all the Islander games. It seemed like Bossy, Trottier, Gillies, Nystrom, et al would win the Cup as long as they wanted to.

Watching them get dismantled was a shock, and it seems like the organization still hasn't recovered.

[denko]

if the penguins don't win this one i think they're going to put up a hell of a fight. they are steamrolling their way throught the post season (as is detriot). i may be in the minority but i'm actually excited for this rematch.

[cougarjake13]

i say the fighting devitos in 6

[El Mudo]

Gather 'round, kiddies, and let ol' Uncle Gvac tell you about the 1983 and 1984 Stanley Cup Finals.

You see, there was a dynasty named The New York Islanders (seriously! I'm not joking!) and in 1983 they were going for their 4th Cup in a row. In their was was a young upstart team called the Edmonton Oilers. They were an offensive dynamo, loaded with talented young kids. Hardly anyone on the team was over 24 or 25 years old. They didn't pay much attention to defense, though, and the wily old veterans from the Island swept 'em in 4 straight.

The very next year the two teams met again. Apparently those Oilers learned a thing or three from their humiliation the previous year, and they not only shored up their defense but skated circles around the aging Cup champions. They halted the Islanders quest for a 5th Cup and started a dynasty of their own.

Anyone else see an eerie parallel?



I don't. By 84 those Islander teams were washed up and worn out. If this was Detroit's 5th consecutive finals, i'd say you were right, but when you hear Gretzky describe how the Islanders looked after their Cup win over Edmonton, you'd see why they were beaten the next year. Detroit has worked wonders under the salary cap stockpiling talent and has some really great young players (like Franzen, Helm, Cleary etc.) and they don't have the mileage on them (yet) that the Drive For Five Islanders had.


And, don't forget...the Isles had to play three straight games in Edmonton in that series because the league changed the format that year...thats a pretty big deal

[Gvac]

I don't. By 84 those Islander teams were washed up and worn out. If this was Detroit's 5th consecutive finals, i'd say you were right, but when you hear Gretzky describe how the Islanders looked after their Cup win over Edmonton, you'd see why they were beaten the next year. Detroit has worked wonders under the salary cap stockpiling talent and has some really great young players (like Franzen, Helm, Cleary etc.) and they don't have the mileage on them (yet) that the Drive For Five Islanders had.

Were you even alive back then?? :tongue:

The Islanders had added young talent too, namely Pat Flatley and Pat LaFontaine. Both were under 20. The rest of the team was in their late 20's and early 30's, too. It's not like they were ANCIENT.

Hell, Bossy and Trots were only 27, and Potvin was only 30.

This Detroit team has a lot of young talent, but the goaltender has played over his head, and Lidstrom is old and injured.

[El Mudo]

Were you even alive back then?? :tongue:

The Islanders had added young talent too, namely Pat Flatley and Pat LaFontaine. Both were under 20. The rest of the team was in their late 20's and early 30's, too. It's not like they were ANCIENT.

Hell, Bossy and Trots were only 27, and Potvin was only 30.

This Detroit team has a lot of young talent, but the goaltender has played over his head, and Lidstrom is old and injured.



Bossy was out of the game by 30 because of his back, Trottier had 111 points that year, but never got to 100 again, and Potvin was out of the game by 34.

5 consecutive Cups is a LOT of mileage. Detroit's not there yet.

[Donnie Iris]

Tickets for games 3 and 4 sold out in minutes in Pittsburgh. However, you can still, at the time I'm writing this, get tickets for 1 and 2 in Detroit. Expect Pens fans to snatch up as many as possible.

Same thing happened last year.

Hockeytown? I'm not so sure.

[weekapaugjz]

Tickets for games 3 and 4 sold out in minutes in Pittsburgh. However, you can still, at the time I'm writing this, get tickets for 1 and 2 in Detroit. Expect Pens fans to snatch up as many as possible.

Same thing happened last year.

Hockeytown? I'm not so sure.

i don't think it's as much as not being "Hockeytown", in as much as it's detroit and no one has any fucking money to buy tickets.

[Donnie Iris]

i don't think it's as much as not being "Hockeytown", in as much as it's detroit and no one has any fucking money to buy tickets.

Yeah, there's probably some truth to that.

[AKA]

The league got what they wanted.

[Donnie Iris]

The league got what they wanted.

So did I

[keithy_19]

Ok. Not the matchup I wanted. But hell, here's my prediction.

















































WHALERS TOP THE NORDIQUES IN 3!

[denko]

Nascar Nationwide series driver is a wings fan. (http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=MediaGalleryPlayer&galleryId=11627)

[TheGameHHH]

so we're underway, game 1. this is when i start watching hockey again.

[weekapaugjz]

i just hope this series goes at least 6 games, if not 7. i want to see some excitement in the finals. i think we will have it this year though, esp with the way the pens have been playing.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

It sounds like the Penguin fans took advantage of all the unsold tickets.

[weekapaugjz]

i don't understand how cooke doesn't get a penalty on that play in front of the net. coming in late and throwing the elbow to the face.

[disneyspy]

if .net is the red wings,whos the pens?

[disneyspy]

sweet

.net 2

ham n eggers 1

[weekapaugjz]

what the hell was fleury doing on that goal? he put himself so far out of position to do anything. just get to the post instead of flopping around like a retard.

[disneyspy]

what the hell was fleury doing on that goal? he put himself so far out of position to do anything. just get to the post instead of flopping around like a retard.

tuff to do anything when the perfect pass is made

[weekapaugjz]

tuff to do anything when the perfect pass is made

if he simply would have shuffled to the post instead of diving, he would have been in position to make a save.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

it seems part of the penguins game plan was to hit the shit out of zetterberg.

[weekapaugjz]

the difference in the game tonight was osgood. he was fucking solid.

[disneyspy]

the difference in the game tonight was osgood. he was fucking solid.


i agree
hes been gettin better n better
cant wait for tomorow night,waaaay past my bedtime

[ihaveabadmonkey]

i think they need to do something with those slingshots they call boards before next season.

[weekapaugjz]

osgood with another big night.

[Suspect Chin]

I love that Malkin and Zetterberg went to war tonight instead of the usual non-violent play of stars, especially in the playoffs.

[Suspect Chin]

Malkin suspension for game 3 rescinded:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480

[weekapaugjz]

Malkin suspension for game 3 rescinded:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480

NHL Hockey Operations also determined that Malkin should have been assessed a game misconduct for not having his jersey tied down.

ahh, the good ol' rob ray rule. and if malkin would have got one, zetterberg would have too. i think his came off before malkin's.

[Suspect Chin]

ahh, the good ol' rob ray rule. and if malkin would have got one, zetterberg would have too. i think his came off before malkin's.

Can't only one player be the 'instigator'?

[weekapaugjz]

Can't only one player be the 'instigator'?

i was commenting about the jersey not being tied down with the fight strap in the back of the jerseys.

[Gvac]

Shhhhh...be very quiet.

Don't jinx us.

I'm pleasantly surprised.

[silks]

Osgood is on fire and the Wings are doing a great job at shutting down Crosby.

Let's Go Islanders!!!

[El Mudo]

Shhhhh...be very quiet.

Don't jinx us.

I'm pleasantly surprised.

:tongue:

I don't. By 84 those Islander teams were washed up and worn out. If this was Detroit's 5th consecutive finals, i'd say you were right, but when you hear Gretzky describe how the Islanders looked after their Cup win over Edmonton, you'd see why they were beaten the next year. Detroit has worked wonders under the salary cap stockpiling talent and has some really great young players (like Franzen, Helm, Cleary etc.) and they don't have the mileage on them (yet) that the Drive For Five Islanders had.


And, don't forget...the Isles had to play three straight games in Edmonton in that series because the league changed the format that year...thats a pretty big deal


Justin Abdelkader FTW

[denko]

i think they need to do something with those slingshots they call boards before next season.


i agree. those boards suck.

[styckx]

<3 The Onion. This is absolutely perfectly done. Pause on the list to read the other stuff. Brilliant.

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[disneyspy]

osgood with another big night.

OZZIE OZZIE OZZIE!!!

[El Mudo]

CBC's intro to the Stanley Cup Finals...




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Amazing stuff...I can't get enough of watching this

[No1Throwdown]

i agree. those boards suck.

home ice advantage, in the olllllld wings arena the boards behind goals were completely rounded

[denko]

pens are coming back strong tonight... i can feel it.

[Gvac]

home ice advantage, in the olllllld wings arena the boards behind goals were completely rounded

You remember the Olympia?

I'm impressed!

[Suspect Chin]

The Wings are just toying with Pittsburgh. That last goal was just too easy.

[TheGameHHH]

remember when people were saying this is a different pittsburgh team then the one that went to the finals last year? certainly doesnt look it

[Crispy123]

go penguins!

[mdr55]

Go Pens Go!!!

[spoon]

remember when people were saying this is a different pittsburgh team then the one that went to the finals last year? certainly doesnt look it

You really should actually watch the games versus just looking at the scores in the 15 second sports center segments. If Fleury showed up in either of the first two games the Pens would be up 2-1 now and with home ice advantage. Sorry, you're wrong again. Both goalies are AWFUL in this series by the way.

Nice work Pens, keep it going!

[TheGameHHH]

You really should actually watch the games versus just looking at the scores in the 15 second sports center segments. If Fleury showed up in either of the first two games the Pens would be up 2-1 now and with home ice advantage. Sorry, you're wrong again. Both goalies are AWFUL in this series by the way.

Nice work Pens, keep it going!

And If the Pens still had Mario and Jagr they'd also be up 2-1. If all the Red Wings died the Pens would be up 3-0, hell.....they might even be Cup winners by now. I mean, if all that happened.

And when i posted that the Wings were up 2-1 in game 3 with a 2-0 series lead. Man, what an insane thing i said. No logical person would ever think what I thought.

[spoon]

And If the Pens still had Mario and Jagr they'd also be up 2-1. If all the Red Wings died the Pens would be up 3-0, hell.....they might even be Cup winners by now. I mean, if all that happened.

And when i posted that the Wings were up 2-1 in game 3 with a 2-0 series lead. Man, what an insane thing i said. No logical person would ever think what I thought.

Too bad you claimed there was no difference bt these two pitt teams, so yah, good point. The bottom line is this team is poised, has taken the play to the wings plenty of times only to be beaten by the wings getting away with covering pucks in the crease (twice it should have been a goal) and some CRAZY bounces in their favor both games in Detroit. You basically said they were the same based on nothing and you probably haven't watched a minute of the series yet. Just shut up.

[Donnie Iris]

Welp, they're breathing..

[silks]

I thought the Pens were finished after Detroit scored that quick goal to tie it up... they live to fight another day though.

Lets go Islanders!

[El Mudo]

Avalanche fire everybody (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Atp8FKNgLSdnNcUM_56Ws0F7vLYF?slug=ap-avalanche-granatofired&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Granato was dismissed Wednesday.

The Avalanche also fired assistant coaches Jacques Cloutier and Dave Barr, goaltending coach Jeff Hackett(notes), assistant to the general manager Michel Goulet and video coordinator P.J. DeLuca.

[cougarjake13]

Avalanche fire everybody (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Atp8FKNgLSdnNcUM_56Ws0F7vLYF?slug=ap-avalanche-granatofired&prov=ap&type=lgns)





but roy doesnt want the job

[spoon]

but roy doesnt want the job

So far, but this may change things. Also, I'd be cool with Jaques Lemaire or Sutter coming on board. Hell, perhaps Lemaire can pull Harding over too!

Everything different helps people.

[denko]

So far, but this may change things. Also, I'd be cool with Jaques Lemaire or Sutter coming on board. Hell, perhaps Lemaire can pull Harding over too!

Everything different helps people.


its working in boston

[El Mudo]

Looks like Emery to the Flyers is a done deal (http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?Panaccio-Flyers-to-Sign-G-Emery=1&blockID=56999&feedID=717)


PITTSBURGH – Barring a collapse in negotiations, the Flyers are expected to sign Ray Emery as their starting goalie for next season.

Several general managers at the Stanley Cup Final consider the matter a “done deal.” Emery was Ottawa’s property until released by the Senators last June.

Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren declined to confirm what others are saying at the Cup Final.

“We’ve had conversations with his agent [J.P. Barry] about a lot of things,” Holmgren said. “But I’m not going to comment on our internal discussions of players.”

Barry told CSNPhilly.com he is confident a contract will get done.

"We have been talking several weeks now," Barry said from Calgary, Alberta. "Paul has done due diligence on Ray. I'm hopeful it will lead to a contract."

Sun Media in Canada is reporting that it's a one-year deal.


There's just no way this is going to end well...at least its a one year deal, so they're not committing to anything long term

But in all honesty, is he really THAT much of an upgrade over Nittymaki or Biron?

[El Mudo]

Avalanche hire Washington Capitals legend Joe Sacco as head coach (http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_12519305)

[denko]

pittsburgh found their legs... ITS ON BABY!!

short handed goal to tie and now they go up.. good game so far.

[yojimbo7248]

Just an outstanding game. I just want the Pens to win so we can get to a game 7

[denko]

fuck that was nice.. 4-2... 3 goals in 6 minutes for the pens

[ihaveabadmonkey]

what the hell got into the penguins tonight.

[yojimbo7248]

what the hell got into the penguins tonight.

ha! I just asked the exact same question. wow.

[denko]

i was thinking what got into the wings... the penguins have been owning them here.

no datsyuk either... that hurts.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Malkin is a monster tonight, He seems to be everywhere.