The Red Sox need a new stadium

[patsopinion]

so the question is

with all the new stadiums being built around baseball is there any room for a crappy stadium that doesn't have the luxury boxes and is designed as oddly as fenway

people said lifting the curse would destroy the love affair- and it did the opposite

is their room for an obsolete stadium esp since it directly hurts the team as far as revenue?

[underdog]

There was supposed to be a new stadium, built in the formerly bad Seaport area of Boston (its now one of the hottest areas of Boston), but the "Save Fenway" shits stepped in and got it squashed.

And with all the money they've put in for renovations for Fenway over the last few years, its not going anywhere. Fenway is here to stay for at least the next 15 - 20 years.

Also, they're not really hurting money wise. Red Sox games have sold out across the board for like the past 3 years (with probably a close to 90% sell out game-wise since 2002) and they have the highest ticket prices in North America. The team's ownership has also tried to purchase the streets around Fenway and are looking into turning certain streets into open malls.

[Epschtein]

keep renovating fenway, i like the history.

and like underdog said, they have put so much into it recently that i would think the plan is to be there for quite a while.

[Bulldogcakes]

We all know that eventually all of them will have to go, but I hope they keep Fenway as long as its safe for the fans. There's so few of these places left.

With all of its quirks, view obstructing poles and lack of bathrooms, its still can't ever be replaced. If you have roots in Boston, you're walking into a ballpark your father, grandfather, maybe even great grandfather went to. A place that Babe Ruth and Ted Williams played in. Boston is a town full of wanna-be poet sportwriters, who eat up the charm and history of the place. If you built a new retro park it would have all the charm of an upscale shopping mall. A new ballpark would change the relationship the city has with the team, and I don't think for the better.

There's also a teeny tiny problem. There's nowhere to put a new ballpark. You can't build one next door like the Yanks and Mets are doing. You'd have to shut it down for 2 years and play games in Foxboro or something. Which would absolutely suck for everybody, including the visiting teams.


BTW-I don't feel the same way about Yankee stadium because the place was totally redone in the 70's. Its not the same ballpark Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio or Mantle played in. Not even close.

[ChrisTheCop]

so the question is

with all the new stadiums being built around baseball is there any room for a crappy stadium that doesn't have the luxury boxes and is designed as oddly as fenway

people said lifting the curse would destroy the love affair- and it did the opposite

is their room for an obsolete stadium esp since it directly hurts the team as far as revenue?

Oh, Here comes Pat with his O-Pin-ion.

You sound like a democratic pollster: "Do you wanna stay in Iraq and have thousands more of our children killed? Or do u wanna vote for Hillary?" Kinda biased, is wha I'm saying.

But youve failed to trick me.
I say Fenway should stay up as long as it can.
When I'm there, I know I'm somewhere special. It really is like a religious experience.
And the complaints about the seating, and lack of restrooms, IMHO are inflated.
You can give me numbers, but Ive honestly never had a bad experience with either situation.

[underdog]

There's also a teeny tiny problem. There's nowhere to put a new ballpark. You can't build one next door like the Yanks and Mets are doing. You'd have to shut it down for 2 years and play games in Foxboro or something. Which would absolutely suck for everybody, including the visiting teams.

They had a beautiful area for it. An area where little was built, plenty of parking, direct access to both major highways that go into Boston proper, a new train station, within walking distance from the two major train hubs of New England, next to two brand new hotels. AND they had a guy who wanted to sell them all the land to do it.

[patsopinion]

man its tough to get tickets

[ralphbxny]

I like what they have done in making Fenway better...that being said..eventually they wil have to. It will be a sad day, but it will happen.

[jauble]

As a person who has never been to fenway but is a cubs fan/wrigley fan historic baseball sights have a feel that cant be replaced...I say keep it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I haven't been to Fenway in over 15 years, but let me ask you this:

Has the idea of the Sox playing 2 seasons at Gillette even been thought of? Raze Fenway, rebuild on the same site.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW-I don't feel the same way about Yankee stadium because the place was totally redone in the 70's. Its not the same ballpark Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio or Mantle played in. Not even close.

You're older than Blowhard, aren't you? Just admit it, WE ACCEPT YOU.

[Bulldogcakes]

You're older than Blowhard, aren't you? Just admit it, WE ACCEPT YOU.

38 and holding . . . . .

[Enabler]

The concept of getting rid of Fenway seems crazy to me. Im a Yankee fan and Ive been there three times and Ive had to admit that its a great park/scene. It may be getting close to the Wrigley stigma of, "its a great place to party but maybe not the best to watch a game," but its still too iconic to ever destroy. And it kills me to say that.

[razorboy]

Hell no. I hate seeing these last baseball cathedrals torn down. Nothing will break my heart more than when they finally tear down Tiger Stadium. By far my favorite of the old parks. Sure it was in a seedy part of town, but the place was just beautiful, and deserved more respect.

[patsopinion]

I haven't been to Fenway in over 15 years, but let me ask you this:

Has the idea of the Sox playing 2 seasons at Gillette even been thought of? Raze Fenway, rebuild on the same site.

yea i was kinna thinking along the same lines

add a bunch of seats and try to keep as much as is salvageable
but the slant stadium seating a-la hockey stadiums is the way to go and fits a lot more people much closer to the action

[underdog]

I haven't been to Fenway in over 15 years, but let me ask you this:

Has the idea of the Sox playing 2 seasons at Gillette even been thought of? Raze Fenway, rebuild on the same site.

They won't tear down Fenway. It has nothing to do with space or location or land or anything. It's that there are thousands of people who never go to baseball games that think that Fenway should be saved because its old (the Save Fenway crowd).

They don't keep Fenway were it is because its a good location. It's not. It's a terrible location. They keep it because its old.

[underdog]

add a bunch of seats and try to keep as much as is salvageable

I think they've added nearly 10,000 seats over the last 10 years or so.

[A.J.]

Not until I get a chance to sit in the Monster Seats.

[DOHO@HOME]

Keep Fenway some of the stadiums seem to be way to big and you don't get the crowd into the game as much.

[Fallon]

I like Fenway now, just give me some wider and cushioned seats for Christs sake.

[cougarjake13]

fuck nostalgia

[CardiffGiant]

as much as I would love a bigger stadium so that tickets were slightly easier to get, replacing Fenway would suck. It's one of the only few classic ballparks remaining after this year (wrigley an fenway are the only two i can think of once yankee stadium is gone).
New Stadiums=McMansions
Old Stadiums=Old World Mansions

[Snoogans]

how bout this. Take the walls, as they are right now, and put them up. I mean the same wall, not just same dimensions. Then make everything around it nice and new and awesome. It will happen as soon as a piece of fenway falls off and kills someone

[Bulldogcakes]

how bout this. Take the walls, as they are right now, and put them up. I mean the same wall, not just same dimensions. Then make everything around it nice and new and awesome. It will happen as soon as a piece of fenway falls off and kills someone

Basically you're talking about a huge renovation. Its do able, but the old Yankee stadium was renovated in the 70's and it took 2 years. Still need somewhere to play in the meantime.