Triple Crown (Horsies)

[underdog]

Man, the Preakness was today. I was planning on ignoring it tomorrow!

Anyway, Big Brown Earl Douglas won, to make it two out of three. And won it pretty easily, too. So we're very close to being disappointed by another horse that doesn't win the Triple Crown in two weeks.

Is anyone else still following horse racing, other than that compulsive gambler KHB?

[Snoogans]

Man, the Preakness was today. I was planning on ignoring it tomorrow!

Anyway, Big Brown Earl Douglas won, to make it two out of three. And won it pretty easily, too. So we're very close to being disappointed by another horse that doesn't win the Triple Crown in two weeks.

Is anyone else still following horse racing, other than that compulsive gambler KHB?

3 weeks to the belmont, not 2. I hope Big Brown getts hurt in the Belmont. And I know that sounds fucked up, but this article I read on the way they breed and train horses now, the Triple Crown is apparently HELL on the fuckin horses, leading to most of the ones who dont win the Derby skipping the Preakness.

If Big Brown wins the Triple, then they will probably leave it how it is, pointing to him thats its not too tough. Even if he doesnt win but runs strong. Something has to happen for them to finally decided to put more time in between the races. I already hate how horses have to get killed if they get fucked up, or arent good enough to be put to stud. FUCK IT

Get injured, Big Brown. But be some kinda injury where you are ok after awhile and still get to go fuck all the time. Horseracing sucks

[underdog]

3 weeks to the belmont, not 2. I hope Big Brown getts hurt in the Belmont. And I know that sounds fucked up, but this article I read on the way they breed and train horses now, the Triple Crown is apparently HELL on the fuckin horses, leading to most of the ones who dont win the Derby skipping the Preakness.

I always wondered why so many horses didn't race in the Preakness after the Derby.

And I also always thought it was wrong that they killed the horses until I found out how much damage a broken or fractured leg does to these animals.

[Snoogans]

I always wondered why so many horses didn't race in the Preakness after the Derby.

And I also always thought it was wrong that they killed the horses until I found out how much damage a broken or fractured leg does to these animals.

Yea that's what sucks. There arent very many injuries, it seems, that one could suffer and not have to be put down. However if your horses stud fee is high enough, they will try like hell. If it isn't, it's dead on the track.That's why the whole thing kinda sucks. If there was a way the horses would be ok and the people would just let em live on a farm after, no matter what, then it's cool.

Otherwise that shit isn't right. Again, we don't go kill humans who underperform or get hurt (I'm talking to you Eddy Curry, Quentin Richardson....I can keep going)

[underdog]

Otherwise that shit isn't right. Again, we don't go kill humans who underperform or get hurt (I'm talking to you Eddy Curry, Quentin Richardson....I can keep going)

You could have just said the Knicks (minus Balkman)

[Snoogans]

You could have just said the Knicks (minus Balkman)

Knicks minus Lee, Robinson....at this point fuck Balkman too, he plays 27 seconds a game

[underdog]

Knicks minus Lee, Robinson....at this point fuck Balkman too, he plays 27 seconds a game

Yeah, but look at the coach.

[Snoogans]

Yeah, but look at the coach.

Balkman is known for his perimeter defense. I dont think thats gonna lead Mike D'Antoni to pump him extra minutes

[Snoogans]

I always wondered why so many horses didn't race in the Preakness after the Derby.

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Oh yea, the fucked up part, I guess, is that they will then run their rested horses back in the Belmont to try to fuck Big Brown while he is tired

[PapaBear]

Oh yea, the fucked up part, I guess, is that they will then run their rested horses back in the Belmont to try to fuck Big Brown while he is tired
I've heard that this is why there will likely never be another Triple Crown winner.

[lleeder]

I wanted to bet on this and totally forgot it was on until late last night. Good thing I saved myself some cash.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I wanted to bet on this and totally forgot it was on until late last night. Good thing I saved myself some cash.


what he said

I would have bet a $50 Big Brown / Gayego Exacta


missed the race

I figured he would win Smarty Jones style take over at stretch and running away

Belmont is gonna be tough, heard there is a Horse in Japan who is great and will be his biggest challenge

[Bulldogcakes]

3 weeks to the belmont, not 2. I hope Big Brown getts hurt in the Belmont. And I know that sounds fucked up, but this article I read on the way they breed and train horses now, the Triple Crown is apparently HELL on the fuckin horses, leading to most of the ones who dont win the Derby skipping the Preakness.

If Big Brown wins the Triple, then they will probably leave it how it is, pointing to him thats its not too tough. Even if he doesnt win but runs strong. Something has to happen for them to finally decided to put more time in between the races. I already hate how horses have to get killed if they get fucked up, or arent good enough to be put to stud. FUCK IT

Get injured, Big Brown. But be some kinda injury where you are ok after awhile and still get to go fuck all the time. Horseracing sucks

The reality is most racehorses end up in slaughterhouses. Meat gets sold in Europe and Asia.

Only the very best get put out to stud, and they don't even get to fuck, its all artificial insemination.

[Epschtein]

take the fact that it just doesnt happen anymore, add to it big brown's injury, and then top it off with the trainer guaranteeing a win 3 or 4 times now, and i would bet the farm that big brown goes out too fast and fades down the stretch.

but we will see, trainer is acting a little too cocky for me, but i still want big brown to pull it off.

[JPMNICK]

take the fact that it just doesnt happen anymore, add to it big brown's injury, and then top it off with the trainer guaranteeing a win 3 or 4 times now, and i would bet the farm that big brown goes out too fast and fades down the stretch.

but we will see, trainer is acting a little too cocky for me, but i still want big brown to pull it off.

I think he takes it, and we finally have a triple crown winner. He is a monster horse is a semi-weak field.

[Snoogans]

The reality is most racehorses end up in slaughterhouses. Meat gets sold in Europe and Asia.

Only the very best get put out to stud, and they don't even get to fuck, its all artificial insemination.

no its not. In fact, to be allowed to race, according to the real sports thing last year, it HAS to be done naturally. They even have a fluffer horse. You really dont know shit about anything do you?

[TheMojoPin]

no its not. In fact, to be allowed to race, according to the real sports thing last year, it HAS to be done naturally. They even have a fluffer horse. You really dont know shit about anything do you?

But I read something else here. (http://amillionhitblogabouthorseies.com)

[JPMNICK]

But I read something else here. (http://amillionhitblogabouthorseies.com)

7 people who post here knows how funny this is

[Snoogans]

But I read something else here. (http://amillionhitblogabouthorseies.com)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Snoogans]

Seriously BDC, someone just made a point that made you look dumb, yet instead of even acknowleding it, you just keep on going as if it never happened. It must be nice to live in this dream world

[PhishermanEto]

The reality is most racehorses end up in slaughterhouses. Meat gets sold in Europe and Asia.

Only the very best get put out to stud, and they don't even get to fuck, its all artificial insemination.

I don't want to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about, but.................... you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Stallions sent out to stud absolutely get to fuck.

The exact rules from the Jockey Club regarding artificial insemination are as follows

To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration

Basically, they get to fuck and then they inseminate to ensure a pregnancy. Sounds pretty good to me.

[Bulldogcakes]

I don't want to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about, but.................... you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Stallions sent out to stud absolutely get to fuck.

The exact rules from the Jockey Club regarding artificial insemination are as follows

To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration

Basically, they get to fuck and then they inseminate to ensure a pregnancy. Sounds pretty good to me.

This is what I was talking about (http://www.howtodothings.com/pets-and-animals/a3585-how-to-breed-horses.html)

Artificial Insemination - This form of breeding is more commonly used in the high dollar horses. Artificial insemination allows for you to pick and choose what characteristics you wish to breed for although it can be quite expensive to obtain semen. The semen is taken from a stallion, as he is mounting a "fake" mare and ejaculating into tubes. The upside to this breeding is that most samples are checked for fertility.

As in racehorses, which is what were talking about.


and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_insemination)

Artificial insemination in livestock and pets
An artificial vagina used to collect semen from horses for use in artificial insemination. Artificial insemination is used in animals to propagate desirable characteristics of one male to many females or overcome breeding problems, particularly in the cases of horses, cattle, pigs, pedigree dogs, and honeybees. Semen is collected, extended, then cooled or frozen. It can be used on site or shipped to the female's location. The small plastic tube holding the frozen semen is referred to as a "straw". To allow the sperm to remain viable during the time before and after it is frozen, the semen is mixed with a solution containing glycerol or other cryoprotectants. An "extender" is a solution that allows the semen from a donor to impregnate more females by making insemination possible with fewer sperm. Antibiotics, such as streptomycin, are sometimes added to the sperm to control some venereal diseases.

Artificial insemination of farm animals is very common in today's agriculture industry in the developed world, especially for breeding dairy cattle (75% of all inseminations) and swine (up to 85% of all inseminations). It provides an economical means for a livestock grower to breed their herds with males having very desirable traits.

I wasn't familiar with the actual technique, sounds like they're humping a tube or something. But the point stands that high end horses are done artificially. This is common in all animal breeding and is done for a lot of reasons. The Stud and Mare don't need to be together, less risk of injury, less risk of infections.

Once again, Snoogans is wrong. What else is new.

[spoon]

Yea that's what sucks. There arent very many injuries, it seems, that one could suffer and not have to be put down. However if your horses stud fee is high enough, they will try like hell. If it isn't, it's dead on the track.That's why the whole thing kinda sucks. If there was a way the horses would be ok and the people would just let em live on a farm after, no matter what, then it's cool.

Otherwise that shit isn't right. Again, we don't go kill humans who underperform or get hurt (I'm talking to you Eddy Curry, Quentin Richardson....I can keep going)

While other horses are considered insurance gems and are put down for financial reasons as well. Basically, it all comes down to money what a shocker!

[spoon]

The reality is most racehorses end up in slaughterhouses. Meat gets sold in Europe and Asia.

Only the very best get put out to stud, and they don't even get to fuck, its all artificial insemination.


no its not. In fact, to be allowed to race, according to the real sports thing last year, it HAS to be done naturally. They even have a fluffer horse. You really dont know shit about anything do you?

But I read something else here. (http://amillionhitblogabouthorseies.com)

7 people who post here knows how funny this is

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't want to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about, but.................... you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Stallions sent out to stud absolutely get to fuck.

The exact rules from the Jockey Club regarding artificial insemination are as follows

To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration

Basically, they get to fuck and then they inseminate to ensure a pregnancy. Sounds pretty good to me.

This is what I was talking about (http://www.howtodothings.com/pets-and-animals/a3585-how-to-breed-horses.html)



As in racehorses, which is what were talking about.


and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_insemination)



I wasn't familiar with the actual technique, sounds like they're humping a tube or something. But the point stands that high end horses are done artificially. This is common in all animal breeding and is done for a lot of reasons. The Stud and Mare don't need to be together, less risk of injury, less risk of infections.

Once again, Snoogans is wrong. What else is new.

MY GOD YOU'RE AN IGNORANT FUCK!

Seriously, you basically made Mojo's fucking point, backstepped on what you meant and proved to the fucking world just how idiotic you are. This isn't a show horse thread and you never meant that in ANY shape, way or form! That was a long few days of research you took trying to spin this one and you FAILED! Seriously, you're a lost fucking cause at this point. You make Waddles look smart, Reeshy look sane and Stugots rational. Good work of sage of the triple crown and jack off sleeves.

[TeeBone]

MY GOD YOU'RE AN IGNORANT FUCK!

So, do you think Big Brown will win the Triple Crown?

[spoon]

I plan on defending the most insanely wrong arguments I can by using those amazing proof searches such as howtodothings.com and wikipedia. Even then, his point wasn't possible so he adds "As in racehorses, which is what were talking about." to make it valid. Sorry bitchcakes, debate doesn't work like that....HOLY FUCK I swear you're slow or a fucking board character (retarded) bc you can't be real.

The horses they speak of are the majority, those that DON'T race, but are riding, show and other types....you know, all the horses we weren't talking about. Hell, I'd bet there are other places AI isn't allowed but guess what, I won't claim to know bc I don't!!! Unlike you, not only will I not defend things I'm not sure of or defend my homer point of view like a cornered dog, I would have actually tipped my hat and said, "Wow, never knew that." And guess what, the conversation moves on. I truly can't believe how blind you are to your own blatantly one-sided wrong arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It's in politic topics, sports threads and pretty much any forum you venture in.

Are you for real BDC? Do you really believe you were right here? Not that it even fucking matters in reality, but holy fuck I've never met someone so dense. EVER.

[spoon]

So, do you think Big Brown will win the Triple Crown?

Yes, but don't take my word for it, ask the wizard of RonFez.net. Just don't read his posts or you'll pull the curtain!

[Snoogans]

This is what I was talking about (http://www.howtodothings.com/pets-and-animals/a3585-how-to-breed-horses.html)



As in racehorses, which is what were talking about.


and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_insemination)



I wasn't familiar with the actual technique, sounds like they're humping a tube or something. But the point stands that high end horses are done artificially. This is common in all animal breeding and is done for a lot of reasons. The Stud and Mare don't need to be together, less risk of injury, less risk of infections.

Once again, Snoogans is wrong. What else is new.

dude are you kidding? This is a horse racing thread. YOU CANT RACE A HORSE THATS ARTIFICIALLY INSEMENATED BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT GENETIC MANIPULATION.

Seriously, why cant you just be a man and admit you made a mistake, instead of finding some bullshit that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

Yes they artificially insemenate with certain horses. BUT YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO FUCKIN RACE THEM

And no one is paying 50 million in stud fees to NOT RACE THE FUCKIN HORSE

[Snoogans]

I don't want to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about, but.................... you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Stallions sent out to stud absolutely get to fuck.

The exact rules from the Jockey Club regarding artificial insemination are as follows

To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration

Basically, they get to fuck and then they inseminate to ensure a pregnancy. Sounds pretty good to me.
and i quote this BDC, so that you see again that these are the rules. This is a horse racing thread. Not a fuckin farmer breeding ranch horses to give kids fuckin rides thread.

You are the dumbest person I've ever come across in my entire life on every level.

YOU DO NOT REALIZE YOU ARE WRONG WHEN YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE SAYING YOU ARE RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS TELLING YOU OTHERWISE

[Snoogans]

Since BDC only believes what he reads on the internet, i found this on Wiki:

Unlike a significant number of registered breeds today, a horse cannot be registered as a Thoroughbred (with the Jockey Club registry) unless conceived by "live cover"; that is, by the witnessed natural mating of a mare and a stallion. Artificial insemination (AI) and embryo transfer (ET), though commonly used and allowable in many other horse breed registries, cannot be used with Thoroughbreds


Thoroughbreds = race horse

[JPMNICK]

Since BDC only believes what he reads on the internet, i found this on Wiki:

Unlike a significant number of registered breeds today, a horse cannot be registered as a Thoroughbred (with the Jockey Club registry) unless conceived by "live cover"; that is, by the witnessed natural mating of a mare and a stallion. Artificial insemination (AI) and embryo transfer (ET), though commonly used and allowable in many other horse breed registries, cannot be used with Thoroughbreds


Thoroughbreds = race horse

why bring logic, reasoning and facts into this thread. we were all having fun

[Snoogans]

why bring logic, reasoning and facts into this thread. we were all having fun

For some reason, just the sheer insanity of this particular time, couple with him finally responding to me only to be completely retarded, it really made me mad. Just that someone could actually honestly believe this shit, it makes me mad as another human

[spoon]

I don't want to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about, but.................... you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Stallions sent out to stud absolutely get to fuck.

The exact rules from the Jockey Club regarding artificial insemination are as follows

To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration

Basically, they get to fuck and then they inseminate to ensure a pregnancy. Sounds pretty good to me.


Nice opening today Phish ETO! Good work buddy.

[Epschtein]

dont want to roooooon it for anyone but denis of cork wins the belmont, you heard it here first ;)

big brown's trainer needs to stfu. yeah, you're confident, we get it...

(im still kind of rooting for big brown, just for the history, but the trainer is really getting on my nerves, hopefully he shows some class if they win)

[JPMNICK]

hey got the 1 spot, right against the rail, not great for him

[PD]

(im still kind of rooting for big brown, just for the history, but the trainer is really getting on my nerves, hopefully he shows some class if they win)

class? He's from Long Island........


On one hand I'd love to see triple crown winner, but Big Brown doesn't seem as dominating as some of the past horses that came up short.

Weird how there were a bunch in the 70's, and then nothing again

[King Hippos Bandaid]

hey got the 1 spot, right against the rail, not great for him

very true, he can be pushed back, while the rabbits make him work more to stalk


the field is terrible but Tale of Ekati won the Grade 1 Wood Memorial closing quite well

plus Denis of Cork is a bred closer


this is not in the bag for Big Brown

[JPMNICK]

very true, he can be pushed back, while the rabbits make him work more to stalk


the field is terrible but Tale of Ekati won the Grade 1 Wood Memorial closing quite well

plus Denis of Cork is a bred closer


this is not in the bag for Big Brown

i agree not in the bag by a long shot

[BoondockSaint]

Casino Drive has a small bruise on his left hind hoof and did not go to track this morning in advance of tomorrow's Belmont Stakes.

Tada said Casino Drive will be monitored closely and he did not rule out scratching the horse from the race.

"It all depends on how he moves tomorrow morning," Tada said. "This morning we are not 100 percent happy with movement in his hind leg. We didn't like the way he walked. He has a good appetite and he is drinking."

If Casino Drive is scratched the Steinbrenner family said that they would make an offer of entering their aging filly, Suzyn Waldman.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/sports_breaking/20080606_Casino_Drive_bruises_hoof__but_wont_scrat ch.html

[King Hippos Bandaid]

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/sports_breaking/20080606_Casino_Drive_bruises_hoof__but_wont_scrat ch.html


meh Casino Drive was all hype


either Denis of Cork or Tale of Ekati will have to catch up to Big Brown, which I have a feeling wont happen

[Snoogans]

Casino Drives jockey was on Mike and Dog today, and he seemed pretty confident. He says the horse should be fine

[BoondockSaint]

Casino Drive has been scratched.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Im hella poor


but if I was gambling, I would do a $4 Trifecta Box

Big Brown Tale of Ekati and Denis of Cork


those 2 closers will either beat Big Brown, or beat the rest of the field to finsih 2nd and 3rd

[Epschtein]

the horses are on the track.

(always reminds me of this lol)
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[Epschtein]

whose bright idea was it to have this bratty little douche butcher new york new york? hehehe

[epo]

So ESD gets branded? I can't keep up with the lunacy.

[Friday]

poor horsies :glurps:

[Epschtein]

38-1 winner with big brown out of the running, gonna be monster payoffs!

change your shirt ya big sweaty win guaranteeing dummy...

[joeyballsack]

I hate horse racing. I get all hyped up to see these horses I know nothing about make some kind of history and we get that.

Why would anyone listen to any horse racing expert and their picks? If they were that good at it wouldn't they be betting on the races?

Stupid horses.

[Kevin]

What a douche that trainer is. He talks shit all this time, then refuses to get interviewed, SUCK A DICK!

[underdog]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-bike-umbrella.jpg

[PD]

Nick Zito does it again.

Casey has to sit ESD down and tell him to stop these stupid bets

[lleeder]

I bet 5 dollars on every horse besides Big Brown to win. Nice 140 profit for me. :smoke:

[silks]

I'm glad that pompous ass Dutrow got what he deserved. Hopefully we won't have to be hearing from that windbag again anytime soon.

[Bossanova]

I am glad that fuckface didn't win the triple crown. What a cunt.

[Kevin]

Casino Drive has been scratched.

Exactly!

[BoondockSaint]

Exactly!

Go back a few more posts to the news report I posted.

[Kevin]

Go back a few more posts to the news report I posted.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/sports_breaking/20080606_Casino_Drive_bruises_hoof__but_wont_scrat ch.html
Nice!

[BoondockSaint]

Nice!

That nag would have come in last anyway.

[Kevin]

That nag would have come in last anyway.

Not with the fantastic race Big Arod ran under pressure, he wouldn't.

[BoondockSaint]

the fantastic Big rod ran under pressure.

I bet, but no one wants to hear about your date.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Dutrow hid like a prick

just a another victim D'Tara, Sarava

Zito is a spoiler

[Epschtein]

yeah that was a major dicktuck after the race but to his credit when he finally spoke he managed to get thru it without being a complete jackoff and sore loser.