(with spoiler un blocked) Why are people excited for the end credit thing of ironman?

[Sheeplovr]

so with the black nick fury thing at the end

like why are people who dont fallow comics excited

im confused

then they yell ooo avengers are coming that says to me that ultimates are coming in a tiny tiny tiny bit not like ohhh this is so happening

and also

people keep going RD jr was sooo tony stark then i go oh you read iron man? and they go no never

well how do they know how tony stark acts

all well

its just suposed to be fun anyways

[JustJon]

I've read Iron man, and I think Robert Downy Jr. played a perfect Tony Stark.

[EliSnow]

I've read Iron man, and I think Robert Downy Jr. played a perfect Tony Stark.

I think that Sheepy thinks that some fans are excited by the ending or that Downey nailed Stark just because it's the "thing" that the net is telling them to do.

[MadMatt]

I think that just the hint of an Avengers movie is exciting some people. They are going to need a good script for it, though.

And Robert Downey Jr. did a great job, but Eli is right that some people are just parroting what they have heard. Not to detract from his performance though, because RDJ played the character extremely well.

[Freitag]

Even though a Sam Jackson style Nick Fury is straight out of the Ultimates, the entire Marvel Ultimates universe is essentially what movie studios do to Comic Book movies anyway - tweak the origin stories of the Big Name Superheroes.

In other words, SLJ being Nick Fury in a 616 Iron Man movie makes sense in a completely twisted way.

[Knowledged_one]

I always thought Tom Selleck would be a great Tony Stark

[EliSnow]

I always thought Tom Selleck would be a great Tony Stark

And you didn't change your mind after 1985?

[MadMatt]

Even though a Sam Jackson style Nick Fury is straight out of the Ultimates, the entire Marvel Ultimates universe is essentially what movie studios do to Comic Book movies anyway - tweak the origin stories of the Big Name Superheroes.

In other words, SLJ being Nick Fury in a 616 Iron Man movie makes sense in a completely twisted way.

Iron Man was a complete mash-up of original and Ultimate story lines, which I assume any other new Marvel movies will be - at least as it applies to Avengers related characters.

Look a the new Hulk movie - the Abomination is strange mix of the original Emil Blonsky character and the look of the Ultimate Abomination.

[Knowledged_one]

And you didn't change your mind after 1985?

He always has looked like Tony Stark and yes i realize hes way to old now but he still would have been a kick ass ladies man ala Tony Stark, and the suit is CGI so its not like it would be tough to have had him

and Clint Eastwood would have been a kick ass wolverine back in the day

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I saw it on Saturday with a friend who enjoys comic book movies, but she probably hasn't read a comic book since she stopped reading Archie. However, she wasn't overly looking forward to the movie since she doesn't like Robert Downey Jr.

After the tag after the credits she turned to me and said 'Woah'. What she got excited about was the fact that it was Sam Jackson in a 30 second cameo which gave it more weight and the promise of a bunch of different heroes coming together in a later movie. However, she did mention she'd like to see Iron Man, Hulk and Spiderman together, so the average movie goer might be disappointed if Spidey isn't in the Avengers movie like I've been hearing.

She also said that the movie made her do a 180 on RDJ and that Stark was a great character, though she obviously couldn't comment on how close it was to the comic.

[TheMojoPin]

Sweet holy fuckable fuckface fuck-a-doodle-fuck, stop saying "616." Nobody actually uses that shit except for the nerdiest of nerds who ever nerded (aka people who get boners over the Handbooks of the Marvel Universe and the hopeless staff hacks that have to write them these days). There's the Marvel Universe...and the Ultimate Universe. It's not complicated. We don't need stupid numbers cluttering things up a la DC.

[JustJon]

Even though a Sam Jackson style Nick Fury is straight out of the Ultimates, the entire Marvel Ultimates universe is essentially what movie studios do to Comic Book movies anyway - tweak the origin stories of the Big Name Superheroes.

In other words, SLJ being Nick Fury in a 616 Iron Man movie makes sense in a completely twisted way.

If you saw the Fantastic Four movie, the origin was ripped directly out of Ultimate FF. Different experiment, but otherwise it was a more plausible origin in the modern day than a rocket into space being bombarded by rays.

[TheMojoPin]

The Spidey movies were definitely much more Ultimate than original universe.

[Knowledged_one]

Sweet holy fuckable fuckface fuck-a-doodle-fuck, stop saying "616." Nobody actually uses that shit except for the nerdiest of nerds who ever nerded (aka people who get boners over the Handbooks of the Marvel Universe and the hopeless staff hacks that have to write them these days). There's the Marvel Universe...and the Ultimate Universe. It's not complicated. We don't need stupid numbers cluttering things up a la DC.

What Universe was the Squadron Supreme

And the Age of Apocalypse?

[badorties]

i thought this was a cooler cameo/spoiler of things to come ...

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/capamericashieldironman.jpg (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/10/captain-americas-shield-spotted-in-iron-man/)

[EliSnow]

Sweet holy fuckable fuckface fuck-a-doodle-fuck, stop saying "616." Nobody actually uses that shit except for the nerdiest of nerds who ever nerded (aka people who get boners over the Handbooks of the Marvel Universe and the hopeless staff hacks that have to write them these days). There's the Marvel Universe...and the Ultimate Universe. It's not complicated. We don't need stupid numbers cluttering things up a la DC.

Doesn't "616" come from the Marvel UK boys? Does it come from the Omniverse designations seen in Capt. Britain and Excalibur?

[MagillaGorillaz]

Doesn't "616" come from the Marvel UK boys? Does it come from the Omniverse designations seen in Capt. Britain and Excalibur?

I think 616 came from "Exiles". I think it's funny that it's 616. That's the same number as Stitch from that crappy disney cartoon. He was experiment 616.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I always heard 616 came from Alan Moore's run on Captain Brittan. The theory being that if there are an infinite number of universes, isn't it awfully egotistical to think that the world you're living in is "Earth 1"?

[EliSnow]

I think 616 came from "Exiles". I think it's funny that it's 616. That's the same number as Stitch from that crappy disney cartoon. He was experiment 616.

Nope. It existed long before the Exiles or even Age of Apocalypse did.

[EliSnow]

I always heard 616 came from Alan Moore's run on Captain Brittan. The theory being that if there are an infinite number of universes, isn't it awfully egotistical to think that the world you're living in is "Earth 1"?

That's what Wikipedia says as well.


At least the first part.

[MagillaGorillaz]

Nope. It existed long before the Exiles or even Age of Apocalypse did.

You learn something new everyday.

I will always have a place for the Hasslehoff as Sgt. Fury

http://members.tripod.com/makeitsomarketing/PICNICKFURYMOVIEFORBLOG.jpg

[mikeyboy]

I think 616 came from "Exiles". I think it's funny that it's 616. That's the same number as Stitch from that crappy disney cartoon. He was experiment 616.

Actually that was 626.

Now I'm going to go back to not being able to follow anything in this thread.

[MagillaGorillaz]

Actually that was 626.

Now I'm going to go back to not being able to follow anything in this thread.

I'm 0 for 2. I'm punching out.

[TheMojoPin]

Doesn't "616" come from the Marvel UK boys? Does it come from the Omniverse designations seen in Capt. Britain and Excalibur?

Yeah. It's pretty much meaningless and didn't crop up again until Exiles.

[TheMojoPin]

What Universe was the Squadron Supreme

And the Age of Apocalypse?

Squadron Supreme come from the Squadron Supreme Universe.

Age of Apocalypse was the Marvel Universe.

[Knowledged_one]

Squadron Supreme come from the Squadron Supreme Universe.

Age of Apocalypse was the Marvel Universe.

What age is it that the Cubs are a baseball dynasty and juggernaut? probably the same one where the orioles are the same i guess

[drusilla]

sheepy i dont read comics & had no idea who the avengers were & the only thing i think was cool about the surprise ending is the way all the characters may cross over into other movies

[Coach]

sheepy i dont read comics & had no idea who the avengers were & the only thing i think was cool about the surprise ending is the way all the characters may cross over into other moviesWell..they have a Thor (rumoured to star the Journeyman guy) movie in Works..Supposedly they already cast the guy for Avengers and the Captain America Movie.., Ant man is Filming..Hulk is coming out...Wonder Man??? Vision???...Spidey might put in a cameo..but he declined membership in the comics at first..became a reserve member..
I would love a Defenders movie..(showing my age I know,) I always thought that team was more Badass than the Avengers. (didn't they go back before the Avengers?)

[Knowledged_one]

Rumor i have heard is that Iron Man 2 script is ready and they will start filming this winter for a 2010 release

Avengers will be 2011 with Thor, Captain America, Hulk and Iron Man

And not only Ant Man but a Dr. Strange movie as well

Also they want to do 3 more Spider Man movies i see a two movie arc with the Sinister Six with the last being the return of the Green Goblin

[Coach]

Rumor i have heard is that Iron Man 2 script is ready and they will start filming this winter for a 2010 release

Avengers will be 2011 with Thor, Captain America, Hulk and Iron Man

And not only Ant Man but a Dr. Strange movie as well

Also they want to do 3 more Spider Man movies i see a two movie arc with the Sinister Six with the last being the return of the Green Goblin
Del Torro is supposed to do Dr Strange..and one of my old faves: Iron Fist is Filming starring the guy who was Darth Maul and Toad.

[JustJon]

i thought this was a cooler cameo/spoiler of things to come ...

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/capamericashieldironman.jpg (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/10/captain-americas-shield-spotted-in-iron-man/)

There was a spoiler in that scene?

Squadron Supreme come from the Squadron Supreme Universe.

Age of Apocalypse was the Marvel Universe.

AoA is an alternate future, and is as much Marvel U as Days Of Future Past.

[TheMojoPin]

AoA is an alternate future, and is as much Marvel U as Days Of Future Past.

No, AoA was supposed to be "today" if Xavier had been killed when he was younger. It was basically saying, "if he had died, this is what you'd be seeing right now instead of the usual Marvel Universe." AoA was technically existing instead of the original universe.

[Coach]

There was a spoiler in that scene?



AoA is an alternate future, and is as much Marvel U as Days Of Future Past.Captain America Shield under work under stark's right armpit

[EliSnow]

Iron Fist is Filming starring the guy who was Darth Maul and Toad.

Ray Park has been rumored to be Iron Fist for awhile.

It's been announced, but it is not filming yet. Right now, Park is filming G.I. Joe where he'll play Snake Eyes.

Then he's got another movie called Ram, and then Iron Fist, if they move forward with it.

[TheMojoPin]

Then he's got another movie called Ram, and then Iron Fist, if they move forward with it.

So he's moving into gay porn?

[badorties]

Rumor i have heard is that Iron Man 2 script is ready and they will start filming this winter for a 2010 release

Avengers will be 2011 with Thor, Captain America, Hulk and Iron Man

And not only Ant Man but a Dr. Strange movie as well

Also they want to do 3 more Spider Man movies i see a two movie arc with the Sinister Six with the last being the return of the Green Goblin

no rumor, marvel issued the relase dates for iron man 2, thor, and the two avenger movies right after iron man's first weekend

Marvel plans to launch its 2010 film slate with the release of the sequel, Iron Man 2, on April 30, 2010, followed by the launch of Thor on June 4, 2010.

Additionally, Marvel is planting its feature film stakes for summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer – a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.

[JustJon]

No, AoA was supposed to be "today" if Xavier had been killed when he was younger. It was basically saying, "if he had died, this is what you'd be seeing right now instead of the usual Marvel Universe." AoA was technically existing instead of the original universe.

And is now considered a divergent timeline/alternate universe, thanks to Exiles and the AoA miniseries a year or two ago.

[Melissa the Accountant]

So, here's a question for Sheepy or anybody else who is well-read as far as comics go.

I've never really gotten into comics - not that I wasn't interested, it was mostly just a combination of not much leisure time and wasn't sure where I should start. So most of what I knew of Iron Man was based on what I read in my college roommate's bathroom stash of Twisted Toyfare Theater! I can mostly identify the members of various super groups, so I'm not entirely ignorant, and I know the basics of their personalities. But I'm lacking on the story end of things and I don't even know the first thing about where to get comics, or if compilation books exist, or anything like that.

I really liked Iron Man and after I saw the movie on Sunday, was thinking about trying to pick up some stuff about him (and I'd be open to the rest of the Avengers as well). So what would your recommendations be as far as what I should start with, and what do you think might be the best way to get my hands on it?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

[JustJon]

So, here's a question for Sheepy or anybody else who is well-read as far as comics go.

I've never really gotten into comics - not that I wasn't interested, it was mostly just a combination of not much leisure time and wasn't sure where I should start. So most of what I knew of Iron Man was based on what I read in my college roommate's bathroom stash of Twisted Toyfare Theater! I can mostly identify the members of various super groups, so I'm not entirely ignorant, and I know the basics of their personalities. But I'm lacking on the story end of things and I don't even know the first thing about where to get comics, or if compilation books exist, or anything like that.

I really liked Iron Man and after I saw the movie on Sunday, was thinking about trying to pick up some stuff about him (and I'd be open to the rest of the Avengers as well). So what would your recommendations be as far as what I should start with, and what do you think might be the best way to get my hands on it?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

If you want to start with Iron Man, they're releasing alot of Iron Man trades this month, but I'd recommend these three:

Devil In a Bottle
Armor Wars
War Machine (the 80s one, not the Chuck Austen one - trade came out last week)

[EliSnow]

So, here's a question for Sheepy or anybody else who is well-read as far as comics go.

I've never really gotten into comics - not that I wasn't interested, it was mostly just a combination of not much leisure time and wasn't sure where I should start. So most of what I knew of Iron Man was based on what I read in my college roommate's bathroom stash of Twisted Toyfare Theater! I can mostly identify the members of various super groups, so I'm not entirely ignorant, and I know the basics of their personalities. But I'm lacking on the story end of things and I don't even know the first thing about where to get comics, or if compilation books exist, or anything like that.

I really liked Iron Man and after I saw the movie on Sunday, was thinking about trying to pick up some stuff about him (and I'd be open to the rest of the Avengers as well). So what would your recommendations be as far as what I should start with, and what do you think might be the best way to get my hands on it?

Thanks in advance for the advice!


You can pick up some trade paperbacks on Amazon. Some suggestions although there's not much out there (compared to say Superman, Batman or Spiderman trades):

Iron Man: Extremis
Ultimate Iron Man (a parallel universe Iron Man)
Iron Man: Many Armors of Iron man.

[Gritty]

I really liked Iron Man and after I saw the movie on Sunday, was thinking about trying to pick up some stuff about him (and I'd be open to the rest of the Avengers as well). So what would your recommendations be as far as what I should start with, and what do you think might be the best way to get my hands on it?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

I'm not the biggest Shell-head fan but I can recommend the following trades representing newer material:

Iron Man Vol. 1: Extremis
Iron Man Vol. 2: Execute Program
Iron Man: Hypervelocity

and these for some history:

Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle
Iron Man: Armor Wars

and this for possibly the greatest theme song ever:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Wn4iYoMcAA

BTW, I saw the movie last night -- it's great but not the best comic book movie ever, IMHO.

[Knowledged_one]

Melissa this is a great site for just about anybody and any charcter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters

Major Storylines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Marvel_Comics_storylines

[Knowledged_one]

No, AoA was supposed to be "today" if Xavier had been killed when he was younger. It was basically saying, "if he had died, this is what you'd be seeing right now instead of the usual Marvel Universe." AoA was technically existing instead of the original universe.

You know i posted that question just to be a dick after Mojo's universe rant, it wasnt a serious question

But Exlies is one of the best books going now, easy to pick up in the middle

[DJEvelEd]

Just got my last Marvel Masterworks. Now I don't have to fill in all the Iron Man comic books I'm missing. I really hope they don't make Tony an alcoholic too soon in these movies. I deal with enough drunks in my life. I don't need my favorite superhero gong to AA meetings before he fights the Mandarin or M.O.D.O.K.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

So, here's a question for Sheepy or anybody else who is well-read as far as comics go.

I've never really gotten into comics - not that I wasn't interested, it was mostly just a combination of not much leisure time and wasn't sure where I should start. So most of what I knew of Iron Man was based on what I read in my college roommate's bathroom stash of Twisted Toyfare Theater! I can mostly identify the members of various super groups, so I'm not entirely ignorant, and I know the basics of their personalities. But I'm lacking on the story end of things and I don't even know the first thing about where to get comics, or if compilation books exist, or anything like that.

I really liked Iron Man and after I saw the movie on Sunday, was thinking about trying to pick up some stuff about him (and I'd be open to the rest of the Avengers as well). So what would your recommendations be as far as what I should start with, and what do you think might be the best way to get my hands on it?

Thanks in advance for the advice!


If you're willing to part with $50 and don't mind reading comics on the computer, there's a DVD-Rom collection with just about every issue of Iron Man published until the end of 2006.

http://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Iron-Man-Complete-Collection/dp/B000VW2RZ8

They also have versions for Spider-man, the X-Men, The Avengers, The Hulk, Captain America and a couple others. However, the company that made those has lost the rights to manufacture these discs, so you might have to search around or find a second hand copy.

[EliSnow]

If you're willing to part with $50 and don't mind reading comics on the computer, there's a DVD-Rom collection with just about every issue of Iron Man published until the end of 2006.

http://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Iron-Man-Complete-Collection/dp/B000VW2RZ8

They also have versions for Spider-man, the X-Men, The Avengers, The Hulk, Captain America and a couple others. However, the company that made those has lost the rights to manufacture these discs, so you might have to search around or find a second hand copy.

I have the Spider-man and X-Men versions. I'm up to 1984 on the X-men.

[Melissa the Accountant]

You guys, this was really helpful. Sometimes it's hard to get yourself started on something when you don't know where to begin. Thanks for the input!

[MadMatt]

Well..they have a Thor (rumoured to star the Journeyman guy) movie in Works..Supposedly they already cast the guy for Avengers and the Captain America Movie.., Ant man is Filming..Hulk is coming out...Wonder Man??? Vision???...Spidey might put in a cameo..but he declined membership in the comics at first..became a reserve member..
I would love a Defenders movie..(showing my age I know,) I always thought that team was more Badass than the Avengers. (didn't they go back before the Avengers?)

I'm betting they will go with one of the "original" teams rather than the expanded rosters.

Original Team: Thor, Hulk, Ant/Giant Man, Wasp, Iron Man, and Captain America (counting him as an original, although he was added a couple issues in and Hulk was gone)

Ultimate Team: Thor, Giant Man, Wasp, Iron Man, Captain America, Nick Fury leading, and Banner/Hulk in a scientist/nemesis/hero role.

However, who knows. Marvel does some wacky stuff when they make movies.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

and this for possibly the greatest theme song ever:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Wn4iYoMcAA



Watching that and some of the other theme songs from their 60's animated shows it's almost like they blew both the animation and theme song budget on Spidey's show.

[Coach]

Ray Park has been rumored to be Iron Fist for awhile.

It's been announced, but it is not filming yet. Right now, Park is filming G.I. Joe where he'll play Snake Eyes.

Then he's got another movie called Ram, and then Iron Fist, if they move forward with it.
I could have sworn before the writer's strike they had it as "filming" on Imdb..now it is listed as "in production"..bummer.

[Gritty]

Watching that and some of the other theme songs from their 60's animated shows it's almost like they blew both the animation and theme song budget on Spidey's show.

When I was a kid I thought those Marvel Superheroes cartoons ROCKED! I think they aired on channel 9 here in NY (WOR) and there was nothing else like it on TV. Cartoons created by cutting pictures out of comic books and moving them slightly over and over again.

The theme songs are fantastic! "Doc Bruce Banner, belted by gamma rays, turns into the Hulk. Ain't he un-glamourous?" "Tony Stark, makes you feel, he's a cool exec with a heart of steel" "When Captain America throws his mighty shield, all those who chose to oppose his shield must yield". Brilliant!