2009 New York Yankees Season Discussion

[JPMNICK]

This could be Cano's batting title year.


Sidenote: That makes it official. Not a single win between Hughes and Kennedy a full month into the season.

there is not one part of this team that looks good

pitching is bad

hitting is bad

middle relievers are bad

outfields are not great

1b has spotty defense depending who is playing

[JPMNICK]

It's Official

AROD on the DL

[Doctor Z]

there is not one part of this team that looks good

pitching is bad (except for Wang and Pettitte)

hitting is bad (yes)

middle relievers are bad (except for Joba)

outfields are not great (correct)

1b has spotty defense depending who is playing (right again)

So basically: If Wang or Pettitte start, and Joba bridges to Mariano, we can win. That should give us... *pulls out calculator*
































































48 wins on the season.

[JPMNICK]

if kennedy and hughes would have just been .500 so far this season it would be a TOTALLY different story.

[Bulldogcakes]

if kennedy and hughes would have just been .500 so far this season it would be a TOTALLY different story.

from PA's blog

If the Yankees lose this game, they’ll be 2-9 in games that Hughes and Kennedy have pitched. They’re 12-5 otherwise.

So if they got decent starting pitching and went 6-5 in those 11 games, they'd be 18-10 overall. That's surprising, because this team hasn't hit much yet. I think they will, but the lack of hitting has made the rookie pitcher's struggles stand out even more.

I think they'll be fine, I still think Kennedy will settle down and be a reliable 4th starter. I think they need to send Hughes to AAA. He's not ready yet. He needs to work on his secondary pitches. Who takes his place? I don't know. But I'm ready to give Rasner a look if Hughes doesn't improve over the next few starts.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Sebern Chase Wright?!

[Knowledged_one]

Keep thinkin this is a playoff potential team guys

[Knowledged_one]

We will be fine. We have not had a good 1b in years, and Cano is a notorious slow starter. And our pen is pretty damn good, after the 6th its pretty much lights out. We have had injuries and have played 18outa 19 on the road and we are only a game back of the Redsox, and i do not care how many we are in back of the O's they will be in 4th place buy june.


And also Jorge's injury is not as bad as thought, we will be fine.

dude i wouldnt bring up the orioles as i am down to earth and know eventually they will fall below the .500 mark, the O's were a team picked to be the worst in the majors and they are playing above their head and are in full rebuilding mode.

While you Yankee fans dont take a realistic look at the team you support and realize that they are not a playoff contender and dont have a lot of talent overall

Plus, they didnt start out 9-2 so the season is over anyway right? And eventually the slow starts by the Yankees will turn into a slow half season.

[Bossanova]

Last time I checked, everyone was mediocre in the AL East to this point. As much as this pains me I will defend the Yanks. They have been on the road for a huge chunck so far, they are playing in cold wheather, injuries are not helping and their two starters are lost. It is early though, ARod will get hot, Cano will pick it up, and they will pick up a pitcher to correct this. Its way too early to burry a team that has been in the playoffs for I believe 13 straight years

[Knowledged_one]

Mediocre? The orioles have more wins then 20 other teams in the Majors, the red sox have more wins then 24 teams in the majors how do you figure that is mediocre?

Maybe the bottom half of the division is mediocre but i would hardly call 15 wins and 16 wins mediocre

[Bossanova]

Bro 4 games over .500 isn't setting the world on fire. And I will give you the O's being in first is far beyond their potential. But yes still mediocre

[Knowledged_one]

If you look at the entire majors then you would have to consider the entire major league as mediocre wouldnt you? 4 games over after 26 games is not bad and far from mediocre i mean the orioles and red sox and rays and yankees all have better records then the AL Central

In the context of the entire majors the O's are far from mediocre right now like i said when you have a better record then 2/3 of the league you are far from mediocre and like i said the Red Sox are better then 80% of the teams

[Bossanova]

If you look at the entire majors then you would have to consider the entire major league as mediocre wouldnt you? 4 games over after 26 games is not bad and far from mediocre i mean the orioles and red sox and rays and yankees all have better records then the AL Central

In the context of the entire majors the O's are far from mediocre right now like i said when you have a better record then 2/3 of the league you are far from mediocre and like i said the Red Sox are better then 80% of the teams

I get what you are saying, but I do think the entire league is mediocre with the exception of like 4-5 teams.

My point still being, way too early to burry a team that is .500 after 28 games. Especially when they have started this slow for the last three seasons. And yes the Orioles are mediocre if they are only 2 games ahead of the .500 Yankees

[Knowledged_one]

I get your point i just dont think this years yankee team has what it takes to make the playoffs this year, and a slow start will eventually kill them as their starting pitching is way worse tehn anyone could expect

[Bossanova]

When my beloved Mets landed Santana, I imagined their pitching staff being garbage

[Kevin]

I get your point i just dont think this years yankee team has what it takes to make the playoffs this year, and a slow start will eventually kill them as their starting pitching is way worse tehn anyone could expect

Yea, and i could def see yours also, It has to stop sometime. If Hughes and Kennedy work out their kinks and some other young guys come up and show promise, and we do not make the playoffs, then i am willing to take that. You just have to be patient.

[Kevin]

And i am sorry, but if the O's win more than 75 games this year, i will be stunned. They have promising young talent but they are years away.

[Bossanova]

And i am sorry, but if the O's win more than 75 games this year, i will be stunned. They have promising young talent but they are years away.

Now you're being silly again

[Knowledged_one]

And i am sorry, but if the O's win more than 75 games this year, i will be stunned. They have promising young talent but they are years away.

I agree with that statement. But most places picked the Orioles to win 60 games at most and they are 25% of the way there after just one month. They are playing way over their heads and are winning with smoke and mirrors. Believe me i dont think they can keep this up but it would be good to see from an O's fan standpoint

The funny thing is Orioles fans still think that Texieria will sign in Bmore but i say no chance and hes playing first for the Yanks next year

[Knowledged_one]

Now you're being silly again

Nah, the orioles have really good talent at AAA and may have the best AAA staff out there

they also have some young hitters in the minors who are gonna be impact players

Take a look at Matt Wieters that guy is going to be a stud

[Bossanova]

I agree with that statement. But most places picked the Orioles to win 60 games at most and they are 25% of the way there after just one month. They are playing way over their heads and are winning with smoke and mirrors. Believe me i dont think they can keep this up but it would be good to see from an O's fan standpoint

The funny thing is Orioles fans still think that Texieria will sign in Bmore but i say no chance and hes playing first for the Yanks next year

Expect the Mets to make a run at Texiera next year.

[Doctor Z]

But Teixeira isn't Dominican.

[Kevin]

But Teixeira isn't Dominican.

Neither is Johan.

Hispanic if you are Hispanic you have a job with the Mets.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Not getting Santana was a HUGEhes Mistake

[Kevin]

Not getting Santana was a HUGEhes Mistake

Thank You sir, thats all i wanted to hear..

HUGHES FOR CY YOUNG!!!

And since Kennedy was part of it the deal.

KENNEDY FOR CY YOUNG CONTENTION!!

[BoondockSaint]

I thought real men didn't even have obliques, never mind strained ones.

[Bulldogcakes]

I thought real men didn't even have obliques, never mind strained ones.

I know all managers play around with the DL to some degree, but Girardi does it more than anyone I've ever seen. We have Betemit with the world worst case of pink eye (on the DL since April 16) and now Hughes, who is suffering from nothing other than a deficiency of outs.

Boonie, shouldn't you be laying low tonight? You don't want me to bring up a certain lefty who pitched this afternoon, now do you?

[zildjian361]

long season :innocent:

[TheGameHHH]

you think we can get a full 9 man roster on the DL before the end of May?

[Kevin]

Good point by Snoogans in IM

Who else calls utter shenanigan's on the Hughes DL? They said nothing the whole day, now he has a "strained oblique"? Come on, they did not want to have the embaressement of being demoted. Now he wil have a few "rehab starts" and they will bring him back up. Will Kennedy sprain an ankle if he gets bombed tomorrow?

[TheGameHHH]

Good point by Snoogans in IM

Who else calls utter shenanigan's on the Hughes DL? They said nothing the whole day, now he has a "strained oblique"? Come on, they did not want to have the embaressement of being demoted. Now he wil have a few "rehab starts" and they will bring him back up. Will Kennedy sprain an ankle if he gets bombed tomorrow?

Good work 007, the rest of us actually bought into the strained oblique gimmick

[TheMojoPin]

James Bond isn't a detective.

[TheGameHHH]

James Bond isn't a detective.

i know, i suck

[HBox]

This thread is chock full of failure.

[BoondockSaint]

Boonie, shouldn't you be laying low tonight? You don't want me to bring up a certain lefty who pitched this afternoon, now do you?

Oh no! Don't do that! I'm so sorry!

[Knowledged_one]

Good point by Snoogans in IM

Who else calls utter shenanigan's on the Hughes DL? They said nothing the whole day, now he has a "strained oblique"? Come on, they did not want to have the embaressement of being demoted. Now he wil have a few "rehab starts" and they will bring him back up. Will Kennedy sprain an ankle when he gets bombed tomorrow?

Fixed it for you

[Kevin]

Fixed it for you

Yea, We might lose again tonight, I hope We can win and Kennedy has a good start for Us, but i doubt it.

[Knowledged_one]

yeah detroit with Curtis Granderson is an entirely different team then without him. He sets the table and gets on base a ton.

[JPMNICK]

yeah detroit with Curtis Granderson is an entirely different team then without him. He sets the table and gets on base a ton.

he is lighting fast too

[Kit the Eskimo]

yeah detroit with Curtis Granderson is an entirely different team then without him. He sets the table and gets on base a ton.

He is a run producing machine. But if you're lucky you have a few lefties on the squad, his numbers against lefties are mediocre at best.

[BoondockSaint]

Hughes has a stress fracture in his rib. He might not be back until July.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sphughes0502,0,2111267.story

[Bulldogcakes]

Can you say "Brittle"? (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/01/game-30-tigers-at-yankees/)

Here is the injury history on Hughes:

2004: Made only three starts for the GCL Yankees because of a fractured toe on his left foot.

2005: Had two stints on the DL with shoulder inflammation.

2006: Only healthy season. Went 12-6 with a 2.16 ERA.

2007: Tore left hamstring on May 1 and did not return until Aug. 4.

2008: Stress fracture in rib cage.

Gotta love Peter Abraham. I was thinking the same thing and was going to try to google this info, and he just put it all together for me. No charge, even. What a guy.

You can add "broke his ankle" when he caught his spike in the grass rehabbing last year. That's why he took so long to come back from the hammy. I haven't seen an injury history like this since Nick Johnson. Some guys are just brittle, and it doesn't have to be certain types of injuries. Ask Mark Prior about "flukey injuries". Some guys, for whatever reason, just can't stay healthy. When prospects are rated, one of the categories is "Health", and his track record sucks right now. I can't see depending on this guy until he puts a few healthy seasons together.

To be fair, this happens to some players early in their career and gets straightened out over time. Bernie Williams was always hurt early in his career until he found a conditioning program that kept him on the field. I can only hope that Phil has a talk with Bernie one of these days.

[Bulldogcakes]

es Goooooooood!!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

Oh no! Don't do that! I'm so sorry!

Oliv . . . . . .

Watch yourself, Bubby. There's more where that came from.

[Bulldogcakes]

Abreu is so fucking scared of walls its ridiculous. That ball dropped 2 feet in front of the wall, most OFers make that play. Then he kicks the fucking thing like a jackass. That should have been the 3rd out, and instead its another run.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Can you say "Brittle"? (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/01/game-30-tigers-at-yankees/)



Gotta love Peter Abraham. I was thinking the same thing and was going to try to google this info, and he just put it all together for me. No charge, even. What a guy.

You can add "broke his ankle" when he caught his spike in the grass rehabbing last year. That's why he took so long to come back from the hammy. I haven't seen an injury history like this since Nick Johnson. Some guys are just brittle, and it doesn't have to be certain types of injuries. Ask Mark Prior about "flukey injuries". Some guys, for whatever reason, just can't stay healthy. When prospects are rated, one of the categories is "Health", and his track record sucks right now. I can't see depending on this guy until he puts a few healthy seasons together.

To be fair, this happens to some players early in their career and gets straightened out over time. Bernie Williams was always hurt early in his career until he found a conditioning program that kept him on the field. I can only hope that Phil has a talk with Bernie one of these days.

The hamstring injury is bullshit, it was because of that dickwad trainer last year. Now is not the fucking time to compare him to Pavano.

[Bulldogcakes]

The hamstring injury is bullshit, it was because of that dickwad trainer last year. Now is not the fucking time to compare him to Pavano.

OK fine, I'll give you that one. Now explain the other 4 of the 5 injuries over the past 4 years.

[Doctor Z]

Just got home and turned on the game... Looks like Kennedy's worked deep into another game.

[JPMNICK]

Just got home and turned on the game... Looks like Kennedy's gotten deep into another game.

i am actually kind of pissed they took him out. he did not look that bad. if they won the last 2 games he would still be in this game.

[Bulldogcakes]

i am actually kind of pissed they took him out. he did not look that bad. if they won the last 2 games he would still be in this game.

Yeah, me too. He was much better tonight against a great hitting team. But at 93 pitches, I can't go nuts about it. But I would like to see Girardi let some of these guys work through their jams, especially with 2 outs.

[JPMNICK]

Yeah, me too. He was much better tonight against a great hitting team. But at 93 pitches, I can't go nuts about it. But I would like to see Girardi let some of these guys work through their jams, especially with 2 outs.

i agree, they are never going to learn if he pulls them so early. and for christ sake let them throw 110 pitches.

[Bulldogcakes]

Shelly!

[cougarjake13]

Shelly!



long ????

[JPMNICK]

i never thought i would say this

i miss bruney

[Doctor Z]

It's becoming more and more clear every day that Robinson Cano is an absolute bum.

[Bulldogcakes]

i never thought i would say this

i miss bruney

I spoke to him last night and he said he misses you too.

Why don't two kids just end this whole thing and apologize to each other? You belong together. Everybody says you two are a great couple.

[JPMNICK]

I spoke to him last night and he said he misses you too.

Why don't two kids just end this whole thing and apologize to each other? You belong together. Everybody says you two are a great couple.

he punched me in the balls in bed last night, we are not speaking

[Doctor Z]

Remember back in the day when the Yankees would score after loading the bases?

I miss the 90's.

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK fine, I'll give you that one. Now explain the other 4 of the 5 injuries over the past 4 years.

Shoulder inflammation: Organizational-dictated shutdown of a prospect.

Ankle injury in 2007: Tied into the hamstring injury. If he's not rehabing the hammy, he may not break the ankle.

EVERY SINGLE PITCHER gets injured from time to time. He is not Kerry Wood, Prior, or Pavano yet.

[JPMNICK]

Remember back in the day when the Yankees would score after loading the bases?

I miss the 90's.

i can not believe how bad they are at bringing in runs with men in scoring position.

[Snacks]

Shoulder inflammation: Organizational-dictated shutdown of a prospect.

Ankle injury in 2007: Tied into the hamstring injury. If he's not rehabing the hammy, he may not break the ankle.

EVERY SINGLE PITCHER gets injured from time to time. He is not Kerry Wood, Prior, or Pavano yet.

no he is worse. kerry wood was injured during his 3rd season and had dead arm his rookie year after pitching almost the whole year. he wasnt injured in the minors like hughes. hughes has been on the dl both years in the majors. he cant pitch 5 games without going on the dl.

[Doctor Z]

I don't know about you guys, but every time I see Johnny Damon, I see a man who deeply regrets not staying in Boston.

[BoondockSaint]

no he is worse. kerry wood was injured during his 3rd season and had dead arm his rookie year after pitching almost the whole year. he wasnt injured in the minors like hughes. hughes has been on the dl both years in the majors. he cant pitch 5 games without going on the dl.

Wood blew out his arm before his second season.

[Doctor Z]

Is there a team in baseball that has shittier numbers with RISP than the Yankees?

[Kevin]

Is there a team in baseball that has shittier numbers with RISP than the Yankees?

No, we are by FAR the worst.

[Tibb Bee]

Tigers sweep the Yanks. First time since '66.:drunk:

[Bulldogcakes]

Boy that road trip was reeeeeealy screwing up the Yanks, wasn't it? They're getting in a 4AM, never sleep in their own bed, the weather is bad, blah blah blah blah blah.

Now that they're home that'll fix . . . . . . . Oh, never mind.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't know about you guys, but every time I see Johnny Damon, I see a man who deeply regrets not staying in Boston.

Why? He got a ring, he got paid.

[A.J.]

Is there a team in baseball that has shittier numbers with RISP than the Yankees?

See the Red Sox' last 5 games.

[Knowledged_one]

Hate to say i told you so about this team

but i told you so

and i called teh whole Cano is fat and happy off his big extension, i think he has to hit like .360 over the rest of the season to hit his career avg of .315

and i would have a lot more respect for the Yankees if they would just cut Giambi and eat the rest of his contract

[Freitag]

You know, I was ready to kill Abraham because I thought he was setting up Hughes, until I realized that BDC was the one who painted the picture of Hughes being an injury machine.

For everyone who brings up Prior, Wood, Pavano, etc, I counter with Josh Beckett. Thank you, drive through.

[Freitag]

Let me ask this:

If the Yankees lose another SP to injury, is that the time Joba starts working as a starter?

[Knowledged_one]

If they lose another SP to injury i would say absolutlely that tehy do not want to start him. IF all of the other young starters are getting injured why risk another one?

[JPMNICK]

Let me ask this:

If the Yankees lose another SP to injury, is that the time Joba starts working as a starter?

i do not think so. I think they will bring up igawa before this happens.

[Knowledged_one]

shit i would run Pavano out there before moving Chamberlain up and putting the pressure of saving a lost season squarely on his shoulders

[A.J.]

shit i would run Pavano out there before moving Chamberlain up

Pavano might strain his groin walking to the mound.

[Knowledged_one]

Pavano might strain his groin walking to the mound.

Is Hideki Irabu still under contract?

[Doctor Z]

Why? He got a ring, he got paid.

But he missed out on another ring... and actually enjoying himself.

[Freitag]

But he missed out on another ring... and actually enjoying himself.

I was chastized for this before, but:

Johnny Damon is, at best, a B+ ballplayer. He is not a hall-of-famer, but he is a popular, well-known producing ball player.

He got his piece of immortality being part of the Red Sox team. When he signed with the Yankees, it wasn't because he was "selling out". it was basically because Boston was showing him the door with a lowball offer.

He has a beautiful wife, beautiful kids, has plenty of money, and a ring. He plays BASEBALL FOR A LIVING and he has his health.

I'm sorry. If I was in Damon's shoes, I wouldn't care where I was playing, if I already had all of those things. Don't forget, a lot of Damon's buddies from that 2004 team are now on other teams. Pedro, Millar, etc.

I honestly believe that Red Sox fans relish the 2004 championship more than last years. If I ranked the four championship Dynasty teams, I always rank the 1996 one the highest. Charlie Hayes FTW.

[A.J.]

I honestly believe that Red Sox fans relish the 2004 championship more than last years.

That's kind of tough to say. The 2004 one was mostly a sense of "FINALLY". The 2007 one helped validate the 2004 one as not being a fluke.

[BoondockSaint]

If I ranked the four championship Dynasty teams, I always rank the 1996 one the highest. Charlie Hayes FTW.

In the top four, for sure.

[TheGameHHH]

That's kind of tough to say. The 2004 one was mostly a sense of "FINALLY". The 2007 one helped validate the 2004 one as not being a fluke.

honestly, who thought it was a "fluke"? there was nothing flukey about how you won that title.

[Knowledged_one]

In the top four, for sure.

Oh the one where that little faggot reached over the railing to make a flyball a homerun and the yankees then got the home cooking from the umpires you mean that fake championsip

[A.J.]

honestly, who thought it was a "fluke"? there was nothing flukey about how you won that title.

Maybe I was just thinking of those shorts they sold outside of Yankee Stadium the year after 2004 that said something to the effect of "Your Next Championship Won't Happen Until 2090".

[Freitag]

Oh the one where that little faggot reached over the railing to make a flyball a homerun and the yankees then got the home cooking from the umpires you mean that fake championsip

Mystique and Aura, appearing nightly.

[BoondockSaint]

Ignore my above post. I thought you had written "rank 1996 one of the highest."

The joke doesn't work without the "of" in there. I need RIF.

[Snacks]

I was chastized for this before, but:

Johnny Damon is, at best, a B+ ballplayer. He is not a hall-of-famer, but he is a popular, well-known producing ball player.

He got his piece of immortality being part of the Red Sox team. When he signed with the Yankees, it wasn't because he was "selling out". it was basically because Boston was showing him the door with a lowball offer.

He has a beautiful wife, beautiful kids, has plenty of money, and a ring. He plays BASEBALL FOR A LIVING and he has his health.

I'm sorry. If I was in Damon's shoes, I wouldn't care where I was playing, if I already had all of those things. Don't forget, a lot of Damon's buddies from that 2004 team are now on other teams. Pedro, Millar, etc.

I honestly believe that Red Sox fans relish the 2004 championship more than last years. If I ranked the four championship Dynasty teams, I always rank the 1996 one the highest. Charlie Hayes FTW.

and you would be wrong. the 98 season they had the best all around season in the history of the sport. now if you say it shocked you more or more exciting, then you are correct.

[Tenbatsuzen]

and you would be wrong. the 98 season they had the best all around season in the history of the sport. now if you say it shocked you more or more exciting, then you are correct.

It's always about stats with you, isn't it? Do you even read context? You would think with my mention of Charlie Hayes that I was talking about the emotional context, not the statistical. Especially since the Mariners clipped that record like 1 or 2 years later.

I mean, people keep calling me out for posting douchey, but go back and read what you wrote. Seriously.

I said "I would rank them.." my personal opinion. Of course history ranks the 98 team higher.

[TheGameHHH]

The one night I thought they had a chance to win I look and see theyre facing Bedard. Over/Under on Yankee hits tonight, 2?

[Snacks]

It's always about stats with you, isn't it? Do you even read context? You would think with my mention of Charlie Hayes that I was talking about the emotional context, not the statistical. Especially since the Mariners clipped that record like 1 or 2 years later.

I mean, people keep calling me out for posting douchey, but go back and read what you wrote. Seriously.

I said "I would rank them.." my personal opinion. Of course history ranks the 98 team higher.

at the end of the day stats are all that matter during anyones era. Champioships matter, but they are a team victory. I never called you out for being douchy. I just stated my opinion based on facts/stats.

[Knowledged_one]

But how can you call his opinion wrong

[TheGameHHH]

Is......is kyle farnsworth doing his job?! im confused

[Bulldogcakes]

You know, I was ready to kill Abraham because I thought he was setting up Hughes, until I realized that BDC was the one who painted the picture of Hughes being an injury machine.

For everyone who brings up Prior, Wood, Pavano, etc, I counter with Josh Beckett. Thank you, drive through.

Huh? I posted that directly from his website and added some comments of my own. And if you want to claim it was out of context, here's PA's next paragraph

You can say all you want about prospects in any sport. But the most important thing is being on the field. Until you can do that consistently, all the rest is window dressing.



For everyone who brings up Prior, Wood, Pavano, etc, I counter with Josh Beckett. Thank you, drive through.

You just completely screwed up a perfectly good argument. So since Beckett had injury issues which he overcame does that mean Prior, Wood and Pavano were healthy? Or don't count? That makes no sense.

There are players who have injury issues early in their career and overcome them. I said the exact same thing and used Bernie as an example. Beckett is another good one. Some players have either a run of bad luck or find they need to take conditioning more seriously to stay on the field.

But others are simply brittle for whatever reason. Nick Johnson was hurt constantly as a minor leaguer and has spent half of his MLB career on the DL. AJ Burnett was injury prone as a minor leaguer and has been the same in the bigs. Some guys just can't stay healthy for whatever reason. The reality is we don't know which category Hughes will fall into, but the fact were asking this question isn't a good sign. And its a fair question to ask.

[Bulldogcakes]

Let me ask this:

If the Yankees lose another SP to injury, is that the time Joba starts working as a starter?

They don't want to go over 150 IP with him this year. So assuming he'll need to stretch out in the minors for a few weeks there's no way he's in the rotation until July 1 at the earliest. He cant get more than 15 starts and keep his innings under 150, and even 15 is really cutting it close. A more conservative approach would be to send him down to the minors July 1, and have him in the rotation late that same month. He'll need at least 4 starts in AAA, with regular starters rest.

Figure August 1st, unless there's a dire need.

[Bulldogcakes]

In the top four, for sure.

If you want to be sentimental, sure. But 1998 was one of the greatest teams to ever play the game. It will be remembered with the 27 Yanks, 39 Yanks, Big Red Machine, etc as one of the best teams to ever play. The 96 team won't.

96 was great fun, but the 98 team is the one I tell the grandkids about.

[Knowledged_one]

well why would you tell them about the 96 team they cheated to get the title

[Doctor Z]

This week's win has been brought to you by...

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CHIEN-MING WANG!


Chien-Ming Wang, YOUR local solution for ending 3-game slides.

[Snacks]

well why would you tell them about the 96 team they cheated to get the title

what? who cheated?

[Doctor Z]

That was the cutest little Taiwanese woman question ever...

"Would you say Wang is your lucky star?"

[cougarjake13]

what? who cheated?

he's an orioles fan

its not hard to see what he is referencing

[Knowledged_one]

referencing the truth

[Tenbatsuzen]

referencing the truth

don't hate, celebrate. Isn't it sad that I remember two orioles from the mid nineties - Cal and Tony Tabasco?

[TheGameHHH]

don't hate, celebrate. Isn't it sad that I remember two orioles from the mid nineties - Cal and Tony Tabasco?

What about Brady "I randomly hit 50 HRs one season because I also cheated and was on steroids" Anderson?

[Doctor Z]

What about Brady "I randomly hit 50 HRs one season because I also cheated and was on steroids" Anderson?

That guy's nickname always seemed a bit wordy to me.

[TheGameHHH]

That guy's nickname always seemed a bit wordy to me.

Disagree, it rolls right off the tounge

[TheMojoPin]

What about Brady "I randomly hit 50 HRs one season because I also cheated and was on steroids" Anderson?

Hmmmmm, of all the Orioles to remember, you focus on Brady...talk of tongue rolling...I wonder why...

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers2/Brady-Anderson.jpg

SO HOMO.

[RogerDornShortHops]

Who's starting tomorrow? Rasner? I'll be in the bleachers

[Kit the Eskimo]

Who's starting tomorrow? Rasner? I'll be in the bleachers

Keep an eye out for the keenly placed 12 year olds in the outfield. The Yankees use them to turn their fly ball outs into HRs.

[TheGameHHH]

Who's starting tomorrow? Rasner? I'll be in the bleachers

Moose I believe, Rasner on Sunday

[Dan 'Hampton]

This week's win has been brought to you by...

http://php.thnt.com/blog01/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/wang.jpg

CHIEN-MING WANG!


Chien-Ming Wang, YOUR local solution for ending 3-game slides.

Whats the story with him being a psychopath loner? Something about a story in SI?

[Knowledged_one]

How could you forget the guy who was going to come in and win multiple cy youngs and championships with the yankees

Mike Mussina

Have the Yankees won a title since they signed him?

[Doctor Z]

Whats the story with him being a psychopath loner? Something about a story in SI?

Scanned this into a PDF. 13MB, but a pretty good read. (http://homepage.mac.com/boomerkuwanger/.Pictures/WangArticle.pdf)

[Doctor Z]

So, Mike Mussina and this anemic offense are going up against one of the best pitchers in baseball right now, and the strikeout leader. How badly is this gonna go?

[TheMojoPin]

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers2/Brady-Anderson.jpg

Here, this will bring you luck.

[TheGameHHH]

Why doesn't MLB Extra Innings carry day games? Now I might actually have to do something productive with my day today instead of watching the game.

[TheMojoPin]

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers2/Brady-Anderson.jpg

Rub his pecs for luck.

If the Yanks win, you have to post this pic before every game for the rest of the season for luck.

[A.J.]

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers2/Brady-Anderson.jpg

Rub his pecs for luck.

If the Yanks win, you have to post this pic before every game for the rest of the season for luck.

Thusly:

http://theburiedlead.com/wp-content/images/a-rod.jpg

[Kevin]

Just like to say that Jason Giambi is hitting as good as anyone i have ever seen.

[TheMojoPin]

ULTIMATE LUCK POWAAAAAAH.

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/RWOOD/5%20Shirtless%20Short%20St.jpg

You're welcome.

[Kevin]

Robbie Cano.. Don't ya know...


































How to hit anymore?

[zildjian361]

2 in a row 500 nice:drunk::smoke:

[Bulldogcakes]

So, Mike Mussina and this anemic offense are going up against one of the best pitchers in baseball right now, and the strikeout leader. How badly is this gonna go?

I was thinking the same thing, even last night. Looking at the pitching matchups for this Seattle series and I thought we'd be looking at a 5 game losing streak with the immortal Darryl Rasner as our stopper. Bedard always gives us fits (plus he's a lefty) King Felix had a 2 and change ERA, and who knows what happens Sunday. It looked like it could really get ugly.

But hey, I guess thats why they play the games, huh?

[Bulldogcakes]

Well Ladies and Gents, I have another bunch of mid week tix I can't use. Why I buy these I have no idea.

Anyway, anyone who wants tix for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday vs The Indians, PM me. All good seats in the 300's, all at cost.

[Doctor Z]

So I realized why we were able to hit King Felix today...




Because he's not a no-name rookie with a 9.85 ERA.

[BoondockSaint]

Jose: Too much pressure make Jose something-something.

Cashman: Go crazy?

Jose: Don't mind if I do!

NEW YORK - Double-A outfielder Jose Tabata, considered one of the organization's top prospects, was suspended for three games last week and considered asking the Yankees for his release.

A 19-year-old from Venezuela, Tabata left last Saturday's game without permission, fleeing the ballpark after striking out in the seventh inning. That led to the three-game suspension.


Tabata is hitting .186 with no home runs and 12 RBI over 26 games for Trenton.

"The expectations of who I am supposed to be and what I am supposed to do finally got to me," Tabata told The (Trenton) Times through a translator. "I made an irrational decision. Maybe it was immaturity, inexperience or just that I didn't know how to handle what was happening. I just kept thinking I am not producing the way I should be and maybe I didn't belong here."

Before the season started, Tabata was No. 37 on Baseball America's list of the top 100 prospects in the game.

"I just felt like I had to go," Tabata said. "It was a rash decision. ... I thought about it a little and realized I am not a quitter."

Tabata returned to the team on Thursday.

"It was a baseball decision that the manager in Trenton (Tony Franklin) had to take care of, and he took care of it," Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said. "I think Jose was just frustrated."

[Bulldogcakes]

Jose: Too much pressure make Jose something-something.

Cashman: Go crazy?

Jose: Don't mind if I do!

Yeah, that whole episode was pretty bad for a kid that they think his ceiling could potentially be somewhere between Kirby Puckett and Manny Ramirez. He has a swing you just can't teach and patience beyond his years. Stuff like this makes you worry he could be a total bust.

But he came back, apologized to the team and went 2-4 last night (http://mvn.com/milb-yankees/2008/05/03/minor-league-recap-53/). He's 19 years old (the youngest player in AA) and has been struggling horribly at the plate all April, batting below .200. He finally went kablooey. It happens. I'm just glad to see he tried to make things right. Sounds like a good kid who had a bad day. First incident, so you take note but I give him a pass.

[BoondockSaint]

He's 19 years old (the youngest player in AA).

Fernando Martinez is younger.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, that whole episode was pretty bad for a kid they think could potentially be somewhere between Kirby Puckett and Manny Ramirez. He has a swing you just can't teach and patience beyond his years. Stuff like this makes you worry he could be a total bust.

But he came back, apologized to the team and went 2-4 last night (http://mvn.com/milb-yankees/2008/05/03/minor-league-recap-53/). He's 19 years old (the youngest player in AA) and has been struggling horribly at the plate all April. He finally went kablooey. It happens. I'm just glad to see he tried to make things right. Sounds like a good kid who had a bad day. First incident, so you take note but I give him a pass.


and on what basis are you using for the proclamation of him being somewhere between kirby and man- ram

at this point he could be anyone between a 3 yr bust and out of baseball and perenial all star

[Bulldogcakes]

and on what basis are you using for the proclamation of him being somewhere between kirby and man- ram

at this point he could be anyone between a 3 yr bust and out of baseball and perenial all star

Its his cieling, and his MLB comparisons. Most prospects don't reach their ceiling, thats why its called a "Ceiling". It refers to his skill set. Manny and Kirby were known for their beautiful, level swing and patience. He has the same skills. That doesn't mean he will be either player.

And of course, nobody knows what a AA player will eventually be.

[cougarjake13]

Its his cieling, and his MLB comparisons. Most prospects don't reach their ceiling, thats why its called a "Ceiling".

ahh re-read it and saw where it said it was their thinkings

i apologize kind sir

[Bulldogcakes]

Fernando Martinez is younger.

Fernando Martinez is gay.

[Bulldogcakes]

Want to go to the All Star game at Yankee stadium? (http://www.stubhub.com/mlb-all-star-game-tickets/mlb-all-star-game-7-15-2008-418757/)

That'll be $25,000, please.

Too rich for your blood? Fine, $600 for bleachers. It's a steal.

The average seat (Loge box) is going for 2 grand.

[TheMojoPin]

Hideous blubber-creature is enraged by Girardi's tyrannical reign as manager. (http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/05/heaven-is-reading-this-hatguy-column.html)

Settle down there, fatty.

[Bulldogcakes]

PA's blog (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/04/game-33-mariners-at-yankees/)

Notes: Ian Kennedy has been demoted to Scranton to make room for Rasner on the 25-man roster. Brian Bruney was moved to the 60-day DL to clear space on the 40-man roster.

Tough blow for Kennedy but probably the right thing to do given his struggles. …

So the decision has been made and I think its a stupid one if you are trying to develop him as a pitcher. The things he needs to learn he can't learn at AAA. It can only be done at the major league level. I think he's very close and just needs to settle in at the major league level. Sending him down is the opposite of what should happen to him.

You got the impression Girardi doesn't like Kennedy as a pitcher, and this is further evidence. We'll see if they call him back up quickly, maybe they just want an extra arm in the bullpen since Rasner is an unknown. But watching Girardi's press conferences after Kennedy pitched and how quickly he pulled him out of games, you got the impression he doesn't have a high opinion of him. Hope I'm wrong, but thats how it looks from here.

[Doctor Z]

Jose: Too much pressure make Jose something-something.

Cashman: Go crazy?

Jose: Don't mind if I do!

Sounds like JUST the kinda guy I want at the plate with the game on the line in the bottom of the 9th...

Dude sounds worse than A-Rod.

[Bulldogcakes]

NoMaas (http://www.nomaas.org/)

05.01.2008 Robinson Cano: Worst player in baseball?

Right now, yes.

Out of 588 position players in MLB, Robinson Cano ranks 588th in VORP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=322652).


For the stat geeks who want to claim its all bad luck, I'd suggest watching the games. His ground ball/fly ball rates and BABIP are similar to last year, but he's just not driving the ball. Lazy fly balls turn into outs more often than scorched line drives. And theres no stat that distinguishes between the two that I'm aware of. Thats why many stats, while valuable, aren't everything and must be balanced by watching the game.

[Bulldogcakes]

Damn, lots of baseball stuff today.

This one on Phil Hughes
(http://mvn.com/milb-yankees/2008/05/03/phil-hughes-down/)

1. Phil Hughes cannot rely solely on two pitches. He’s been largely unable to throw his changeup in the major leagues. Whether that is due to nerves or mechanics, we don’t know, but something needs to be fixed. Hughes will have long rehab period in the minor leagues, which gives him plenty of time to iron out some kinks that he hasn’t been able to work on in the majors.

2. He’s got to get his control back. Although uncharacteristic of him, his 3.59 BB/9 in the major leagues was expected for a 21 year-old in the majors. His 5.31 BB/9 this season is a departure from expectations. He’s either getting gun shy or this is a function of his mechanics.

3. He needs to get innings in this year… somewhere. Now out until July, Hughes runs an incredible risk. Last season, he was thrown off his schedule by missing two months with a hamstring strain. He barely cleared 100 innings. In order to build arm strength gradually over time and become a full-time major league starter, he needs to surpass that this year. Whether that means stretching him out in the minors or not, it needs to happen. Sometimes young players have to be optioned down during the year. It happens. I’d be happy to see Hughes rejoin the team as a starter in September.

I mostly agree with his take. He has to use his secondary pitches. He needs to get innings in, but I think at the big league level if for no other reason to settle down. It looks to me like his lack of command (stuff) is from him simply trying too hard and his pitches straightening out. His fastball used to have late life, and I saw none of that this year. I thought his control was fine, it looked like hitters were crushing well placed pitches that just weren't moving much.

[BoondockSaint]

Sending him down is the opposite of what should happen to him.



Exactly! They should have promoted him to the Major Major Leagues.

[Doctor Z]

1. Phil Hughes cannot rely solely on two pitches. He’s been largely unable to throw his changeup in the major leagues. Whether that is due to nerves or mechanics, we don’t know, but something needs to be fixed. Hughes will have long rehab period in the minor leagues, which gives him plenty of time to iron out some kinks that he hasn’t been able to work on in the majors.

2. He’s got to get his control back. Although uncharacteristic of him, his 3.59 BB/9 in the major leagues was expected for a 21 year-old in the majors. His 5.31 BB/9 this season is a departure from expectations. He’s either getting gun shy or this is a function of his mechanics.

3. He needs to get innings in this year… somewhere. Now out until July, Hughes runs an incredible risk. Last season, he was thrown off his schedule by missing two months with a hamstring strain. He barely cleared 100 innings. In order to build arm strength gradually over time and become a full-time major league starter, he needs to surpass that this year. Whether that means stretching him out in the minors or not, it needs to happen. Sometimes young players have to be optioned down during the year. It happens. I’d be happy to see Hughes rejoin the team as a starter in September.

Wait, so...
His pitches need to be better. His control needs to be better. And he needs to pitch more.


Damn, now that's what I call cutting edge analysis. Why isn't this guy writing for Sports Illustrated?

[TheGameHHH]

Adrian Beltre just hit a ball into Manhattan, i wish Rasner was the answer

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Id pitch a 4 man rotation


no one in your farms is good enough



I bet its Rasner, then its Igawa


you also have to remember that Kennedy is shitting the bed also

you have 2 good starters

and Mussina who is Jeckyl & Hyde




good luck bros

[TheGameHHH]

The Melkman delivers!! Los Jankees, putting up runs

[TheGameHHH]

mmmmback to back and belly to belly.............could that be the bomb that turns Cano around?

[Bulldogcakes]

Ryan Rowland-Smith warming up?

What's with the hyphenated name? Did he take his boyfriend's name when they got married?

[TheGameHHH]

Ryan Rowland-Smith warming up?

What's with the hyphenated name? Did he take his boyfriend's name when they got married?

check out how far his name wraps around the back of his jersey.......it starts in his left arm pit and end down below his right arm pit.

[Kevin]

Notice the turnaround happened right after Hippos post.

[Bulldogcakes]

Kennedy can't be brought back for 10 days, so the May 10th start is out.








So ladies and gentlemen. . . . . ..














Drumroll please. . . . . . . . . . . .












Take a wild guess who will make the next start . . . . . . . . . . .














THAT'S RIGHT! LETS GIVE A BIG YANKEE STADIUM WELCOME TO THE IMMORTAL KEI IGAWA!!! LET'S GET IT UP FOR KEI PEOPLE, COME ON!! WOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO!!!!!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3380856)

[zildjian361]

and on what basis are you using for the proclamation of him being somewhere between kirby and man- ram

at this point he could be anyone between a 3 yr bust and out of baseball and perenial all star

post on a mets board:annoyed:

[TheMojoPin]

post on a mets board:annoyed:

You go post on a Yankees board.

[Bulldogcakes]

PA's blog (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/04/rasner-gets-the-job-done/)

Hold on tight, but Kei Igawa is going to get a chance, too. The $46 million Japanese bust will probably get a start next weekend in Detroit. He tuned up today by allowing four runs over seven innings against Durham. He walked four and struck out eight.


If you have a problem and Kei Igawa is the answer, you're asking a really, really stupid question.

And guess what? You're going to see him in the rotation until Hughes comes back in 2 months (Who should also be in AAA). If Igawa pitches like he did last year, giving you a 6.25 ERA averaging 5 IP per start, the Yanks will tell you its still better than what Kennedy did. But Kennedy at least has an upside, Igawa's upside is to be a bigger pile of horse shit. Or maybe they'll swing a deal for this year's Kevin Brown. But you won't see Kennedy back on this team until September at the earliest.


The Yanks stick with their youth movement for one fucking month, and I have to watch Kei Igawa pitch until July. I want to fucking puke.

[Kevin]

I would like to personaly Thank Sen Mitchell and the Boston Redsox..
































For outing Roger Clemens...





























Because you KNOW Hank would be giving him 30 million as we speak..

[Doctor Z]

Wasn't it a year ago almost to the DAY that Roger appeared in GEORGE'S BAWX to announce that he was riding in on his white horse to save the Yankees?

[Bulldogcakes]

Ask Kevin. He had tickets to the game.

[Kevin]

Ask Kevin. He had tickets to the game.

Yea... That went well.

[Doctor Z]

You know what they just said on the flash on WFAN? It's obvious, but until they actually said it, it didn't really hit me...

5 weeks into the season, Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy haven't picked up a win, but Daryl Rasner in his first try got one today.

[BoondockSaint]

You know what they just said on the flash on WFAN? It's obvious, but until they actually said it, it didn't really hit me...

5 weeks into the season, Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy haven't picked up a win, but Daryl Rasner in his first try got one today.

You should pay more attention to the Yankees.

[Bulldogcakes]

You should pay more attention to the Yankees.

Like Boonie the Met fan does.:innocent:

[BoondockSaint]

Like Boonie the Met fan does.


It should be embarrassing that I know more about his team than he does.

[spoon]

Hey BDC, how are those THREE amazing young pitchers working out for your beloved yankees!?

AHahahahahahaha!

"We don't need Santana! He's not worth two shitty pitchers in Huges and Kennedy!" Ok ok, that last sentence I modified a lil!

[Doctor Z]

You should pay more attention to the Yankees.

I don't get the joke... if there even is one here.

[BoondockSaint]

I don't get the joke... if there even is one here.

I'm a Mets fan and I know more about your team than you do. Your fandom is the joke.

:laugh: and such.

[Kevin]

Hey BDC, how are those THREE amazing young pitchers working out for your beloved yankees!?

AHahahahahahaha!

"We don't need Santana! He's not worth two shitty pitchers in Huges and Kennedy!" Ok ok, that last sentence I modified a lil!

Hey Spoony.. How are your LAST PLACE Toronto Blue Jays doing?? Maybe one day Doc Halladay can pitch a complete game and actually get a win..

Edit: You of all people should know that 4 starts does not make a pitcher shitty. You gave up on Carpenter and waited a while on Halliday before he became the great pitcher he is today.

The Yanks should do to Hughes and Kennedy what the Jays did to Halladay. Send them down and completely re work them. Obviously something is wrong with Hughes. Before the injury to his hammy he was throwin 95 96, not he is topping out at 93.

[Doctor Z]

I'm a Mets fan and I know more about your team than you do. Your fandom is the joke.

:laugh: and such.

I'm sorry, but what exactly was it that you knew about the Yankees that I didn't?

[Bossanova]

Hey Spoony.. How are your LAST PLACE Toronto Blue Jays doing?? Maybe one day Doc Halladay can pitch a complete game and actually get a win..

says the guy wh has 4 pitchers that can't get out of the 4th inning.

[Doctor Z]

Wait, don't answer that. You're a board character.

[BoondockSaint]

You know what they just said on the flash on WFAN? It's obvious, but until they actually said it, it didn't really hit me...

5 weeks into the season, Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy haven't picked up a win, but Daryl Rasner in his first try got one today.



This.

[Doctor Z]

If you read this thread, you'd know that I knew that, as I've mentioned it in previous posts. And I clearly stated that "IT'S OBVIOUS" but it's the kind of thing you don't really fully absorb till you hear someone say it.

You fail.

[Kevin]

says the guy wh has 4 pitchers that can't get out of the 4th inning.

Hi my name is Ollie Perez.. How are YOU today.

[BoondockSaint]

If you read this thread, you'd know that I knew that, as I've mentioned it in previous posts. And I clearly stated that "IT'S OBVIOUS" but it's the kind of thing you don't really fully absorb till you hear someone say it.

You fail.

Oh, sorry. You are right, I went back and looked at your last six posts and they had OBVIOUS FAIL written all over them.

[Doctor Z]

That was terrible.




And I'm going to sleep now.

[spoon]

Hey Spoony.. How are your LAST PLACE Toronto Blue Jays doing?? Maybe one day Doc Halladay can pitch a complete game and actually get a win..

Edit: You of all people should know that 4 starts does not make a pitcher shitty. You gave up on Carpenter and waited a while on Halliday before he became the great pitcher he is today.

The Yanks should do to Hughes and Kennedy what the Jays did to Halladay. Send them down and completely re work them. Obviously something is wrong with Hughes. Before the injury to his hammy he was throwin 95 96, not he is topping out at 93.

Why are you changing the subject!? I didn't bring up the future, or the Jays, but you did to make yourself feel better about the fact that I WAS/AM right. I told both you and BDC that if you were lucky one of the 3 would be ok in the majors THIS YEAR, and the Santana mix up was a bad call. BDC stated in the past that all three have #1 potential and I laughed my ass off. Most of my post was aimed at him, yet you just got on me for the Jays not hitting!! Good point ahole!

Here's the difference, I rip my team when it does dumb shit, you and BDC see it all from homer eyes, especially BDC. I HATED the Thomas move (you don't spend 10+ million at the one dimensional position to add 10 HRs from the position tops), HATED the Eckstein move (bc we had McDonald for his d with so many ground ball pitchers and save money), HATED the Reed Johnson release for a washed up again vet and have been nothing but critical of JP over the last two seasons at least.

So, yes, continue to make fun of the Jays for being 1.5 games behind a team that has a payroll closing in on 3 times the pay! You should be proud, bc I promise you the Jays will rebound with the pitching they put on the mound. Good luck covering more mistakes and making the playoffs by adding a ton more salary. If not, the yanks aren't going to see the postseason this year and it's a promise.

[JPMNICK]

this thread is getting more heated then the "i punched my boyfriend in the balls" thread.

[Kevin]

Why are you changing the subject!? I didn't bring up the future, or the Jays, but you did to make yourself feel better about the fact that I WAS/AM right. I told both you and BDC that if you were lucky one of the 3 would be ok in the majors THIS YEAR, and the Santana mix up was a bad call. BDC stated in the past that all three have #1 potential and I laughed my ass off. Most of my post was aimed at him, yet you just got on me for the Jays not hitting!! Good point ahole!

Here's the difference, I rip my team when it does dumb shit, you and BDC see it all from homer eyes, especially BDC. I HATED the Thomas move (you don't spend 10+ million at the one dimensional position to add 10 HRs from the position tops), HATED the Eckstein move (bc we had McDonald for his d with so many ground ball pitchers and save money), HATED the Reed Johnson release for a washed up again vet and have been nothing but critical of JP over the last two seasons at least.

So, yes, continue to make fun of the Jays for being 1.5 games behind a team that has a payroll closing in on 3 times the pay! You should be proud, bc I promise you the Jays will rebound with the pitching they put on the mound. Good luck covering more mistakes and making the playoffs by adding a ton more salary. If not, the yanks aren't going to see the postseason this year and it's a promise.

Jesus dude you really need to get off the Caffeine and take a friendly ribbing post when you see one. You do not need to use insults on every post. Its fucking May and to realistically be ripping on a team for being in last place is stupid. And i did not really change the subject. You did not say this year in your post, you just said shitty pitchers. I brought up Halladay as an example of what an org should do with their pitchers, it was a compliment not an insult.

[BoondockSaint]

Why are you changing the subject!? I didn't bring up the future, or the Jays, but you did to make yourself feel better about the fact that I WAS/AM right. I told both you and BDC that if you were lucky one of the 3 would be ok in the majors THIS YEAR, and the Santana mix up was a bad call. BDC stated in the past that all three have #1 potential and I laughed my ass off. Most of my post was aimed at him, yet you just got on me for the Jays not hitting!! Good point ahole!

Here's the difference, I rip my team when it does dumb shit, you and BDC see it all from homer eyes, especially BDC. I HATED the Thomas move (you don't spend 10+ million at the one dimensional position to add 10 HRs from the position tops), HATED the Eckstein move (bc we had McDonald for his d with so many ground ball pitchers and save money), HATED the Reed Johnson release for a washed up again vet and have been nothing but critical of JP over the last two seasons at least.

So, yes, continue to make fun of the Jays for being 1.5 games behind a team that has a payroll closing in on 3 times the pay! You should be proud, bc I promise you the Jays will rebound with the pitching they put on the mound. Good luck covering more mistakes and making the playoffs by adding a ton more salary. If not, the yanks aren't going to see the postseason this year and it's a promise.


I have been trying to say, in not so many words, that Kevin is a dick.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wait, don't answer that. You're a board character.

OH, THE FUCKING IRONY.

[Kevin]

I have been trying to say, in not so many words, that Kevin is a dick.

What he said.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What he said.

Quiet, Kermit.

[BoondockSaint]

What he said.


Illiteracy is a motherfucker?

[Kevin]

Quiet, Kermit.

Quiet, F_S

[Kevin]

Illiteracy is a motherfucker?

Yea i am sorry you are right i am wrong, i am sorry for any misunderstanding.

[spoon]

Jesus dude you really need to get off the Caffeine and take a friendly ribbing post when you see one. You do not need to use insults on every post. Its fucking May and to realistically be ripping on a team for being in last place is stupid. And i did not really change the subject. You did not say this year in your post, you just said shitty pitchers. I brought up Halladay as an example of what an org should do with their pitchers, it was a compliment not an insult.

Waaa. I called you an ahole ripping your dumb post and you get all salty. How long have you known me on this board re re!? Grow a set and stop whining about me being rough on you or cutting the caf bc you know I feed on stupid posts filled with bs and avoidance. Welcome to golfing Ranger fan, and soon the basement of the AL East too!

That's a rip/joke too so you don't write it down on paper for later. The yanks have enough hitting to keep them out of the basement, but I can dream can't I.
KEV-->:down:
Me -->:devil2:
BDC's opinion/points -->:flush:
Snoogans when he reads this -->:lol:
JPMnick when he has to break this up -->:wallbash:
King Hippo -->:king:
Bossanova -->:wacko:<--also Snoogans (both high)
Kevin later if he had a brain -->:surrender:

[spoon]

What he said.

Nice one Reillyluck! Can't even come up with your own gimmick huh!?

U HACK!

[Kevin]

Waaa. I called you an ahole ripping your dumb post and you get all salty. How long have you known me on this board re re!? Grow a set and stop whining about me being rough on you or cutting the caf bc you know I feed on stupid posts filled with bs and avoidance. Welcome to golfing Ranger fan, and soon the basement of the AL East too!

That's a rip/joke too so you don't write it down on paper for later. The yanks have enough hitting to keep them out of the basement, but I can dream can't I.
KEV-->:down:
Me -->:devil2:
BDC's opinion/points -->:flush:
Snoogans when he reads this -->:lol:
JPMnick when he has to break this up -->:wallbash:
King Hippo -->:king:
Bossanova -->:wacko:<--also Snoogans (both high)
Kevin later if he had a brain -->:surrender:

What he said.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Quiet, F_S

GODDAMNIT I AM NOT FAT SUNNY

[JPMNICK]

Waaa. I called you an ahole ripping your dumb post and you get all salty. How long have you known me on this board re re!? Grow a set and stop whining about me being rough on you or cutting the caf bc you know I feed on stupid posts filled with bs and avoidance. Welcome to golfing Ranger fan, and soon the basement of the AL East too!

That's a rip/joke too so you don't write it down on paper for later. The yanks have enough hitting to keep them out of the basement, but I can dream can't I.
KEV-->:down:
Me -->:devil2:
BDC's opinion/points -->:flush:
Snoogans when he reads this -->:lol:
JPMnick when he has to break this up -->:wallbash:
King Hippo -->:king:
Bossanova -->:wacko:<--also Snoogans (both high)
Kevin later if he had a brain -->:surrender:

snoogans is to busy arguing over wearing a suit then to worry about May baseball. Plus his team is in 1st

[Bulldogcakes]

From “Joba Rules” to the “Kershaw Decree” (http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/05/from-joba-rules-to-the-kershaw-decree-2719/)

Joe Torre’s at it again. Or actually, won’t be at it again. After seeing his shiny new manager signal for relievers Joe Beimel and Scott Proctor a combined 32 times in the Dodgers’ first 31 games, GM Ned Coletti instituted the Kershaw Decree to protect his 20-yr old stud southpaw, who will inevitably take over the fifth starter spot later this summer. Kershaw will be limited to 25 innings per month for the remainder of the year, putting him on pace for 150 IP or so after tossing 122 last year. “We don’t want to get teased and find out in September [that Kershaw’s] not pitching anymore,” said Torre. I’m sure the front office is thinking “We don’t want to get teased and find out in September [that Kershaw’s] shoulder and elbow are shredded.”

[spoon]

From “Joba Rules” to the “Kershaw Decree” (http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/05/from-joba-rules-to-the-kershaw-decree-2719/)

Put that in the Dodger thread asshole, Torre has more respect for himself to stay in the zoo any longer. Have fun with those three stud #1's and Joe G's awesome change of pace! He's soooo much better right! I love the Hank/Hal comedy show as well. Hilarious, for me!

[spoon]

Yeah!!!

Perhaps she thought it was the guy who buried the Ortiz jersey and was only doing Steinbrenner's Justice!? Aren't Yankee fans just the most wonderful animals filled with logic!? Ahahahahaa!

What a fucking CUNT!

Yanks fan charged with murder in Sox fan death

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8107040/Yanks-fan-charged-with-murder-in-Sox-fan-death

[Kevin]

Yeah!!!

Perhaps she thought it was the guy who buried the Ortiz jersey and was only doing Steinbrenner's Justice!? Aren't Yankee fans just the most wonderful animals filled with logic!? Ahahahahaa!

What a fucking CUNT!

Yanks fan charged with murder in Sox fan death

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8107040/Yanks-fan-charged-with-murder-in-Sox-fan-death

Now thats a real fan. Ready to kill for her team!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

Jose: Too much pressure make Jose something-something.

Cashman: Go crazy?

Jose: Don't mind if I do!

Here's a Tabata update since his suspension (http://riveraveblues.com/2008/05/05/rumors-of-jose-tabatas-demise-have-been-greatly-exaggerated-2722/)

Jose Tabata: 3 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K, 1 CS - picked off first … he’s now 7 for his last 12

Good for him, and hopefully for the Yanks in 2009.

[Crippler]

Perhaps she thought it was the guy who buried the Ortiz jersey and was only doing Steinbrenner's Justice!? Aren't Yankee fans just the most wonderful animals filled with logic!? Ahahahahaa!

What a fucking CUNT!

Yanks fan charged with murder in Sox fan death

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8107040/Yanks-fan-charged-with-murder-in-Sox-fan-death

As a Yankees fan, I call for a mulligan on this one. This had less to do with Yankees vs. Red Sox & more to do with a drunk, crazy, Latin chick. The Sox fan would have been just as likely to be run down by this woman if he had grabbed the last set of bath mats out of this crazy bitch's hands during a one day only White Sale at JC Penny. He pissed off the wrong crazy bitch, the subject matter didn't make the difference.

[Knowledged_one]

No Kennedy, no Hughes

May i introduce the savior of the Yankees season

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/john_rolfe/03/06/injury.prone/tx.pavano.jpg

[RingWraith]

No Kennedy, no Hughes

May i introduce the savior of the Yankees season

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/john_rolfe/03/06/injury.prone/tx.pavano.jpg


Oh yeah.

What's he been up to????

[Marc with a c]

anybody else just see butch huskey sitting in the stands at the game?

[Bulldogcakes]

LoHud (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/06/game-34-indians-at-yankees/)

UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Ian Kennedy has a perfect game through four innings for Scranton tonight. He has struck out three. 48 pitches/31 strikes.

The Yankees are playing Charlotte.

UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Ian Kennedy is perfect through five innings in Scranton. Isn’t that something?

UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Kennedy allowed a hit in the sixth. He still has a shutout. Good for him, hopefully he’ll get himself together. Now keep in mind that he has to stay there for 10 days unless he replaces somebody put on the disabled list.

Good for him, hopefully the Kei Igawa experiment will be a short one.

[K.C.]

HERE COMES THE FAILDOZER!

http://pinstripesdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/o8lisqlc.jpg

(please don't bring up Tom Gordon in response...please don't bring up Tom Gordon in response...)

[Bulldogcakes]

Despite how hard Joba throws, he has to keep his fastball down in the zone.

When he doesn't, stuff like this happens.

[BoondockSaint]

If Joba would have gone straight to the rotation this never would have happened.

[Bulldogcakes]

(please don't bring up Tom Gordon in response...please don't bring up Tom Gordon in response...)

Fine.

Hey KC, how's that Gom Tordon fellow working out for you guys?

[Kevin]

Bobby Abreu just did his very best Carlos Beltran impression.


I don't know if its early or whatever but Joba does not seem to have his fastball yet.

[BoondockSaint]

Bobby Abreu just did his very best Carlos Beltran impression.


.


You mean he made a great catch while not worrying about crashing into a wall? I highly doubt that.

What is Abreu's least favorite street? Wall Street.

What is Abreu's least favorite tourist attraction? The Great Wall of China.

Who is Abreu's least favorite actor? Ken Wahl.


geh geh and geh

[Kevin]

You mean he made a great catch while not worrying about crashing into a wall? I highly doubt that.

What is Abreu's least favorite street? Wall Street.

What is Abreu's least favorite tourist attraction? The Great Wall of China.

Who is Abreu's least favorite actor? Ken Wahl.


geh geh and geh

I am about to do my best you know who impression.

I am not saying he is as good as beltran i am just saying he tried to impersonate him.

[BoondockSaint]

I'm not laughing, Kevin.

[Kevin]

I'm not laughing, Kevin.

You know you are.

[BoondockSaint]

I was in the top of the 8th.

[cougarjake13]

You mean he made a great catch while not worrying about crashing into a wall? I highly doubt that.

What is Abreu's least favorite street? Wall Street.

What is Abreu's least favorite tourist attraction? The Great Wall of China.

Who is Abreu's least favorite actor? Ken Wahl.


geh geh and geh


What is Abreu's least favorite store to shop in ???? walmart

[cougarjake13]

What is Abreu's least favorite album to listen to ???? the wall by pink floyd

[TheMojoPin]

ARod isn't clutch ANYWHERE:

"The one nurse had a cold cloth on his head. The other nurse had the blood pressure on his arm. And my mother was like rubbing his back. And he is passed out on a couch. And I am there, in the middle of labor," Cynthia Rodriguez, wife of the New York Yankees star, said on an episode of the YES Network's "YESterdays" that is scheduled to be broadcast Wednesday night.

On would assume it's from the shock of finally seeing whatever was lurking between those centaur thighs of hers. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/05/06/arod.passedout.ap/index.html?cnn=yes)

[BoondockSaint]

At least he's not egotistical and works Alexander into his daughters names. Oh, nevermind.

[Kevin]

ARod isn't clutch ANYWHERE:



On would assume it's from the shock of finally seeing whatever was lurking between those centaur thighs of hers. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/05/06/arod.passedout.ap/index.html?cnn=yes)

Then he hit a grounder to 3rd.

[BoondockSaint]

Then he hit a grounder to 3rd.


And dropped a pop up.

[TheMojoPin]

And weakly slapped the baby out of the doctor's arms when he brought it to him.

[Bulldogcakes]

Ian sounds off after the near perfect game in Scranton (http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/Blogs/SWBYankeesBlog/tabid/552/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3478/Wrapping-up-Ian-Kennedy.aspx)

So much for lacking confidence. Ian Kennedy sounded Tuesday night like a man who desperately wants another crack at big league hitters.

“I’m trying to say it humbly, but it doesn’t matter what I say, it’s going to come out cocky,” he said. “You just know. I woke up today and told my wife, I just have a feeling I’m going to make these guys look stupid.”

“I just felt like I could do no wrong,” Kennedy said. “Whether it was 2-0, I didn’t care, I could place a fastball away. I’ve been working on it every start, getting my mind set in the big leagues. I felt like I was getting better and better every time. It just led up to this. It was inevitable for me to do well. It was just a matter of time.”

Talking to him, I got the feeling Kennedy believed he would have had a night like this regardless of where he pitched. He woke up today expecting to make hitters -- any hitters -- look stupid. He was going to have a good night here or in the big leagues. He just happened to be here.

I asked if tonight's performance, and the obvious swagger that came with it, were mearly a result of Kennedy coming to a level where he knew he could dominate:

“It’s not so much here, it’s that I know what I can do," he said. "That was the main thing I was battling with (in New York). It goes back to trying to be too perfect. You’re giving them too much credit in the big leagues. These guys in Triple-A aren’t much different. They could be big leaguers tomorrow, and some of them have played in the big leagues. It’s not so much the hitters, it’s myself.”


Hahahahah!! I don't think the Yanks will mind this cockiness one bit. They probably like it. Sounds like it finally sunk in what the Yanks kept telling him, now lets see him take back up to the bigs. Hopefully sooner rather than later. I can't stand Kei Igawa.

[spoon]

Ian sounds off after the near perfect game in Scranton (http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/Blogs/SWBYankeesBlog/tabid/552/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3478/Wrapping-up-Ian-Kennedy.aspx)




Hahahahah!! I don't think the Yanks will mind this cockiness one bit. They probably like it. Sounds like it finally sunk in what the Yanks kept telling him, now lets see him take back up to the bigs. Hopefully sooner rather than later. I can't stand Kei Igawa.

AHhahahaahahahahahahahah!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

































































Seriously?! AHahahahaahahahahahahahahaha!:clap:

[TheGameHHH]

If I were Girardi I'd be furious with the past few innings my pitchers have given me, walks will kill you every single time. We can't really afford to give the Indians runs tonight because Cliff Lee seems to be the next comming of sandy kofax.

[Bulldogcakes]

If I were Girardi I'd be furious with the past few innings my pitchers have given me, walks will kill you every single time. We can't really afford to give the Indians runs tonight because Cliff Lee seems to be the next comming of sandy kofax.

Cliff Lee has been great, but its been about a month. Lets see if the league adjust to him and if he can adjust back.

I have a similar concern about Mussina. He's been great the last few starts, but he's been using a big slow curve (instead of the usual knuckle curve) and he's been throwing it for strikes, usually early in the count. I can just see good curveball hitters sitting on that pitch and crushing it. Its basically a hanger, but it works because hitters aren't looking for it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Whenever I see this Jeter-as-a-Edge-salesman commercial, I think back to the Rock on SNL as Bad Clark Kent.

[ralphbxny]

Whenever I see this Jeter-as-a-Edge-salesman commercial, I think back to the Rock on SNL as Bad Clark Kent.

Agreed. But I hate that stupid commercial!

[TheGameHHH]

How insane is this, the Yanks are actually playing a day game during get-a-way day. I had no idea it was a day game until about 15 minutes before the first pitch. now im actually happy im working at night tonight.

[JPMNICK]

Whenever I see this Jeter-as-a-Edge-salesman commercial, I think back to the Rock on SNL as Bad Clark Kent.

i can not understand why he does these commercials. he does not need the money. and they are so cheesy

[Freitag]

i can not understand why he does these commercials. he does not need the money. and they are so cheesy

Oh, how soon you forget those Taylor Hicks abominations.

I KNOW WHAT I WANT
I GET WHAT I NEED

[TheGameHHH]

nice win today, thank god it wasn't another sweep

why did i spell get away day before as "get-a-way"? i got way too hyphen crazy.

[Kevin]

Sigh.. I miss having a RF that goes near a wall.

[Bulldogcakes]

Sigh.. I miss having a RF that goes near a wall.

Who do you mean? Not Sheff, he was a lazy, lousy fielder. O'Niell? He was good playing the wall but had no arm in his last 2 seasons. Abreu does a lot really well, walls are just his kryptonite.

Don't worry. When they bring HHH's boy Jackson up next year they'll move Melky to RF.

[BoondockSaint]

Igawa-san looks to be in top form.

[Bulldogcakes]

This is unwatchable.

[TheGameHHH]

I wish somebody paid me $50 million to throw room service fastballs to MLB hitters. I would be awesome at my job. How does one inquire about a gig like that?

[Bulldogcakes]

Giambi looks like he's heating up, and Cano looks much better at the plate lately.

[Bulldogcakes]

I wish somebody paid me $50 million to throw room service fastballs to MLB hitters. I would be awesome at my job. How does one inquire about a gig like that?

Can you throw with your left hand?

[BoondockSaint]

Can you throw with your left hand?

What's that have to do with it? Igawa can't.

[Bulldogcakes]

Play it again, Joe. (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/09/game-37-yankees-at-tigers/)

UPDATE, 6:00 p.m.: Chris Britton was optioned to Scranton. … LHP Sean Henn was claimed off waivers by the Padres. … Igawa has already been scheduled to start again on Wednesday in Tampa. … Girardi said they want to give Wilson Betemit a shot against lefties because he’s swinging the bat so well.

Lovely.

[Bulldogcakes]

If diarrhea could pitch, it's name would be Kei Igawa.

[Marc with a c]

i think sheepy is 2 for 3 off igawa.

[Kevin]

45mil well spent, i say.

[TheGameHHH]

45mil well spent, i say.

hell yea, ill take 3 Innings and 6 earned every time out

[Bulldogcakes]

K Igawa IP-3.0 H-11 ERA-18.00

They can't possibly start him again on wednesday.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

5 runs in 4 innings

sounds about right



Start 4 Pitchers please

[Kevin]

Yanks may have found an answer to all their problems!!

Wells wants to join Yankees
Posted: Friday May 09, 2008 05:38AM ET

For his 45th birthday in 11 days, David Wells wants something pinstriped. The free-agent left-hander told The Post yesterday he has been working out near his home in San Diego and believes he could bolster a Yankees' rotation suddenly besieged by question marks. Hank Steinbrenner admitted yesterday that Wells has crossed his mind as a possibility for the Yankees' rotation


















That being said.. Id take him over Igawa.

[Doctor Z]

Well, that was a nice cocktease.

[TheGameHHH]

Yanks may have found an answer to all their problems!!

Wells wants to join Yankees
Posted: Friday May 09, 2008 05:38AM ET

For his 45th birthday in 11 days, David Wells wants something pinstriped. The free-agent left-hander told The Post yesterday he has been working out near his home in San Diego and believes he could bolster a Yankees' rotation suddenly besieged by question marks. Hank Steinbrenner admitted yesterday that Wells has crossed his mind as a possibility for the Yankees' rotation


















That being said.. Id take him over Igawa.

As sad as it is, Wells is a good option right now.

[Doctor Z]

Yeah, cuz signing pitchers in their 40's has always worked out for us in the past...

http://www.13wmaz.com/assetpool/images/08213113313_clemens1.jpg

http://gothamist.com/images/2005_01_sunit.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/brown_kevin1006.jpg

[Kevin]

Yeah, cuz signing pitchers in their 40's has always worked out for us in the past...

http://www.13wmaz.com/assetpool/images/08213113313_clemens1.jpg

http://gothamist.com/images/2005_01_sunit.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/brown_kevin1006.jpg

http://www.hahmed.com/pics/nyy024.jpg

[Doctor Z]

Hey... in all fairness, Duque is only 24 years old.

[Kevin]

Hey... in all fairness, Duque is only 24 years old.

In Dog years maybe.

[BoondockSaint]

In Dog years maybe.

Yeah but he's he about to reboot.

[spoon]

In Dog years maybe.

Nice joke, you got it the wrong way re re.

And oh yah bdc, ahahahaahahahahahahahah!


On every single hilarious post you make, a bulldog pup gets beat by a Bad Newz Kennel peep. I hope.

[Bulldogcakes]

I have the answer for Kei Igawa











































http://www.nomaas.org/images/igawa_drycleaning.jpg

[Bulldogcakes]

I think Kei Igawa should be tested for Performance Decreasing Drugs.

[Bulldogcakes]

Albaladejo to the DL (http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/09/albaladejo-headed-to-disabled-list/)

Jon Albaladejo said his elbow felt like there was a needle going into it followed by a burning sensation. I have no idea what that means, but it isn’t good.

Tough break for Alby, who has pitched well besides the one bad outing where he gave up 4 runs. Hopefully its just a strain, but even if it is he'll miss a month or more. If its worse than that, call Dr Andrews and see you next year.

I guess this means everybody moves up a notch and we get to see all our pet prospects a bit more. For me that's Edwar Ramirez. Who pitched well last night despite the fact he clearly didn't have the feel for his changeup. He bounced one about 10 feet before the plate, and threw many of the others way out of the zone but still got swings and misses because he throws it so well. He's the type of pitcher who needs steady work, this could be the break he needs to stay sharp and become the pitcher I think he can be at this level.

Scott Patterson? David Robertson? Somebody's going to get a look-see if this injury is bad.

[BoondockSaint]

I'm having trouble deciding which back page I think is funnier.

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/05/10/gal_backpage_0510.jpg

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05102008/img/back051008.jpg