2009 New York Yankees Season Discussion

[walking joint]

i don't understand Yankee fans booing adding Burnett. its not like it would prevent them from spending in future years if he were to get hurt(and its not your money, so who cares)...healthy he is a really good pitcher.

[Puggle_kicker]

He has the potential to become the next Kevin Brown or Carl Pavano, thats why. Dude has a history of injuries. Its pretty clear why some fans would be upset.

That said, Im very happy!

[HBox]

has joba even shown he's anything other than a great 8th inning guy ??

In 12 starts he had a 2.74 ERA, 74Ks to 24 BBs and a WHIP around 1.20. So yeah.

[zildjian361]

Got CC get Burnett leave Joba in the bullpen, what we really need is a real 1st baseman. sign Mark Tex.:wallbash:

[Bossanova]

you guys just picked up a guy who only beats the Yanks. I think Peavy or Lowe would have been a better move. Or the very least get it to 4 years

[Puggle_kicker]

Disagree on Lowe . . . . too fucking old man. Too old.

[Bossanova]

Disagree on Lowe . . . . too fucking old man. Too old.

I guess, but better fit. The Yanks do need to get away from the old guys

[HBox]

you guys just picked up a guy who only beats the Yanks. I think Peavy or Lowe would have been a better move. Or the very least get it to 4 years

Peavy was never an option since he will only accept a trade to the South Dakota Mud Hens .

Ben Sheets was a much better option if you were going to sign somebody who was an injury risk. Even if he flamed out he was only 2 years and cheaper than Burnett. Or Lowe. Or fucking ANYONE. Or even NOBODY. They have Aceves, Hughes or Kennedy they could have plugged in.

This is going to be a disaster. Burnett's not even that good when he is healthy. I mean I thought Sabathia's deal was too long, but if that's what it took you have to do it. He's good enough to justify it. $16 million a year for a #3 though?

One person who is happy today is Chien-Ming Wang. Imagine how much the Yanks will have to pay him after he outpitches Burnett year after year.

[Bossanova]

Peavy was never an option since he will only accept a trade to the South Dakota Mud Hens .

Ben Sheets was a much better option if you were going to sign somebody who was an injury risk. Even if he flamed out he was only 2 years and cheaper than Burnett. Or Lowe. Or fucking ANYONE. Or even NOBODY. They have Aceves, Hughes or Kennedy they could have plugged in.

This is going to be a disaster. Burnett's not even that good when he is healthy. I mean I thought Sabathia's deal was too long, but if that's what it took you have to do it. He's good enough to justify it. $16 million a year for a #3 though?

One person who is happy today is Chien-Ming Wang. Imagine how much the Yanks will have to pay him after he outpitches Burnett year after year.


I think Burnett will only be good again if he goes to the NL. The fans are not going to be easy on him with 5 inning outings. He is way too much of a risk.

[cougarjake13]

In 12 starts he had a 2.74 ERA, 74Ks to 24 BBs and a WHIP around 1.20. So yeah.

paul wilson and bill pulsipher had good starts as well

[brettmojo]

I was hoping the Braves would get him.

Me too.

I think CC/Wang will be awesome. Burnett is a solid #3 and Joba is going to be a question mark.

The only question is if the Yankee brass will get their heads out of their asses and figure out what to do with him once and for all. They're gonna' wreck him with this back and forth bullshit.

i don't understand Yankee fans booing adding Burnett. its not like it would prevent them from spending in future years if he were to get hurt(and its not your money, so who cares)...healthy he is a really good pitcher.

He has the potential to become the next Kevin Brown or Carl Pavano, thats why. Dude has a history of injuries. Its pretty clear why some fans would be upset.

That said, Im very happy!

That and the contract is ridiculous. I'd rather have Peavy.

Got CC get Burnett leave Joba in the bullpen, what we really need is a real 1st baseman. sign Mark Tex.:wallbash:

I wish. But I'm pretty sure he'll end up in Boston.

We'll end up with Man Ram. Guaranteed.

you guys just picked up a guy who only beats the Yanks.
He also beats the Red Sox.

[Marc with a c]

he'll be nasty in intersquads.

[Puggle_kicker]

to bash Joba is just stupid. Time will tell you wrong there. If he lacks in every other category in the world at least he can handle NY. That is worth millions alone.

I think Burnett will be better than you people are thinking. If for no other reason that there is no way he can be any worse than American Idle Carl Pavano.

[brettmojo]

paul wilson and bill pulsipher had good starts as well
What a complete fucking reach that was.

[cougarjake13]

to bash Joba is just stupid. Time will tell you wrong there. If he lacks in every other category in the world at least he can handle NY. That is worth millions alone.

I think Burnett will be better than you people are thinking. If for no other reason that there is no way he can be any worse than American Idle Carl Pavano.

yes he can


he can tear his rotator cuff or worse in spring training and never pitch again for the yanks or anyone

that'd be worse than pavano

[brettmojo]

I think Burnett will be better than you people are thinking. If for no other reason that there is no way he can be any worse than American Idle Carl Pavano.
They said the same thing about Pavano... No way he could be worse than Johnson or Brown.

[Puggle_kicker]

yes he can


he can tear his rotator cuff or worse in spring training and never pitch again for the yanks or anyone

that'd be worse than pavano

Not very much.

[Puggle_kicker]

They said the same thing about Pavano... No way he could be worse than Johnson or Brown.

:down:

[Kevin]

you guys just picked up a guy who only beats the Yanks. I think Peavy or Lowe would have been a better move. Or the very least get it to 4 years

5-0 2.47 era vs the Redsox

[Puggle_kicker]

Im still interested in possibly getting Ben Sheets. I for one, am done with Andy Pettitte. I hope he doesnt return.

[Bossanova]

5-0 2.47 era vs the Redsox

80 mil for 5 wins? That will be awesome

[brettmojo]

paul wilson and bill pulsipher had good starts as well

Some good start.

Wilson's 1st year...

5.38 ERA
5-12
71 BB 109 K
157 hits in 149 innings

Joba last year...

2.60 ERA
4-3
39 BB 118 K
87 Hits in 103 innings

Pulsipher only pitched like 12 games his 1st season.

[Kevin]

80 mil for 5 wins? That will be awesome

He will beat your bum lineup 1 or2 times too.

[cougarjake13]

Some good start.

Wilson's 1st year...

5.38 ERA
5-12
71 BB 109 K
157 hits in 149 innings

Joba last year...

2.60 ERA
4-3
39 BB 118 K
87 Hits in 103 innings

Pulsipher only pitched like 12 games his 1st season.


well theres still time for him to catch up those 46 innings, who knows what happens

[TheGameHHH]

I personally would have gone with Sheets over Burnett, tried really hard to make it worthwhile for Sheets to spend 2 years in pinstripes. That's going to be something I will always fundamentally disagree with Cashman on. Otherwise, as a fan I have no choice but to root for Burnett. Hopefully his stuff is as nasty as I've always seen it to be.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Beckett is not so svelte for you fella's either

Seriously you should have gone with Shilling.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Has it been brought up on here that CC can opt out after 3 years? How is this good for the Yankees?

[brettmojo]

Has it been brought up on here that CC can opt out after 3 years? How is this good for the Yankees?
REALLY??? HE CAN??? WELL, WELL... NO ONE SEEMED TO NOTICE!!! When the hell did this happen!?!?!?

[Dan 'Hampton]

REALLY??? HE CAN??? WELL, WELL... NO ONE SEEMED TO NOTICE!!! When the hell did this happen!?!?!?

Alright you got me there, but doesn't this just set the yankees up to pay him more in three years?

[brettmojo]

Alright you got me there, but doesn't this just set the yankees up to pay him more in three years?
If he delivers, and is everything that everyone hopes he'll be, then it won' be a problem either way. If not then hopefully they'll just let him go and won't be tricked into resigning him like they were with Arod and his,"Oh, I wanna' be a Yankee..." Garbage.

[Dan 'Hampton]

If he delivers, and is everything that everyone hopes he'll be, then it won' be a problem either way. If not then hopefully they'll just let him go and won't be tricked into resigning him like they were with Arod and his,"Oh, I wanna' be a Yankee..." Garbage.

Well I'm really hoping for the "I always wanted to be a yankee....." at the presser

[brettmojo]

Well I'm really hoping for the "I always wanted to be a yankee....." at the presser
We'll hear about,"Oh the history..." blah blah blah and,"Tradition..." blah blah blah...

But I doubt that he'll say anything about wanted to be in NY when it's so obvious that he really didn't want to go there.

[Kevin]

Seriously you should have gone with Shilling.



He isn't there anymore.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just came back to this thread.

For all the Pavano comparisons, etc... the plain and simple truth is, the Yankees could sign Sabathia, Burnett, Texiera, *AND* Manny Ramirez and have a payroll that's only 10mm more than last year.

So... I don't have an issue with the Burnett signing. It could be good, it may not. Who knows.

Look, the thing that bit the Yankees in the ass last year was having a decimated pitching staff.

How about this... why NOT IPK as your Joba-like 8th Inning bridge?

[Tenbatsuzen]

So it appears that the Yankees Rotation will be:

CC
CMW
Burnett
Joba
and either Pettite or Hughes

I can deal with that.

[cougarjake13]

So it appears that the Yankees Rotation will be:

CC
CMW
Burnett
Joba
and either Pettite or Hughes

I can deal with that.

i know he retired but any chance that with these moves it entices moose to come back ??

[TheGameHHH]

i know he retired but any chance that with these moves it entices moose to come back ??

not at all, he's that type of guy that doesn't really give a shit. he competed hard and gave it his all every time he was out there, he's satisfied with that.

[cougarjake13]

not at all, he's that type of guy that doesn't really give a shit. he competed hard and gave it his all every time he was out there, he's satisfied with that.

but add him to that rotation and they may be world series bound

they prob are anyway but maybe a lil clemens type action and he comes back in may

[TheGameHHH]

but add him to that rotation and they may be world series bound

they prob are anyway but maybe a lil clemens type action and he comes back in may

but thats what i meant in my previous statement. this doesnt have to do with personal accolades for him. he went out every year and competed for a World Series, he didn't get it. He's the type of person that's fine with that. Would he have liked to win one? Yes. Was that always the ultimate goal? Sure. But it didn't happen and it's time to move on.

[Puggle_kicker]

I personally would have gone with Sheets over Burnett, tried really hard to make it worthwhile for Sheets to spend 2 years in pinstripes. That's going to be something I will always fundamentally disagree with Cashman on. Otherwise, as a fan I have no choice but to root for Burnett. Hopefully his stuff is as nasty as I've always seen it to be.

Unfortunately stuff isnt enough. You know who else had killer stuff? Hideki Irabu, Jeff Weaver and Javier Vazquez.

[Puggle_kicker]

Has it been brought up on here that CC can opt out after 3 years? How is this good for the Yankees?

To avoid a Randy Johnson type situation where the guy just doesnt want to be there and cant handle the pressure.

[Puggle_kicker]

As far as Moose is concerned, I say let him leave on a 20 win season and go out in style. The last couple of years Moose has not pitched extremely well and Id say he never pitched up to his early years in Baltimore.

That said, he was always my favorite Yankee pitcher.

[brettmojo]

He had finally figured out how to pitch with diminished stuff last year... That's what I really find perplexing about him retiring now.

[vjr97]

cc and aj is a start.they need a catcher and manny or texiera or both.the red sox and the mets suck cock:furious:

[HBox]

cc and aj is a start.they need a catcher and manny or texiera or both.the red sox and the mets suck cock:furious:

I would probably be quicker if you tell us the players you don't want.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Moose was one of the smartest players in the Yankees clubhouse. He lives in the middle of bumfuck pennsylvania. He wants to raise his kids. He probably has invested his money very well. He doesn't want or need to come back.

Let him go.

[Tenbatsuzen]

He had finally figured out how to pitch with diminished stuff last year... That's what I really find perplexing about him retiring now.

there's nothing perplexing. He made his money, and he figured out with the money he's made, both he, his kids, and his kid's kids will be comfortable for the rest of their lives. Some people don't like being on the road all the time. Remember the shit fit he had in Tokyo? He doesn't like change. At all.

He wants to go back to Central PA, cash out his chips while he's still healthy, and go home.

Would you rather him be like Smoltz, where he wakes up every morning in agonizing pain?

[cougarjake13]

there's nothing perplexing. He made his money, and he figured out with the money he's made, both he, his kids, and his kid's kids will be comfortable for the rest of their lives. Some people don't like being on the road all the time. Remember the shit fit he had in Tokyo? He doesn't like change. At all.

He wants to go back to Central PA, cash out his chips while he's still healthy, and go home.

Would you rather him be like Smoltz, where he wakes up every morning in agonizing pain?

if it meant another world series title then fuck yeh

stop being selfish moose

the team needs you

[epo]

if it meant another world series title then fuck yeh

stop being selfish moose

the team needs you

Wouldn't your stance make you the selfish one?

[cougarjake13]

Wouldn't your stance make you the selfish one?

no its about team not the individual

[foodcourtdruide]

if it meant another world series title then fuck yeh

stop being selfish moose

the team needs you

I like the notion that baseball players magically owe you something.

[cougarjake13]

I like the notion that baseball players magically owe you something.

they do


if not for the team they wouldnt be who they are

[foodcourtdruide]

they do


if not for the team they wouldnt be who they are

That holds true about nearly every job anyone's ever had.

[cougarjake13]

That holds true about nearly every job anyone's ever had.

yes

[TheGameHHH]

if it meant another world series title then fuck yeh

stop being selfish moose

the team needs you

i cant tell if you're being serious or facetious.......if you're being serious then i need you to explain to me exactly how the Yankees NEED Moose. Cause CC, Wang, Burnett, Joba, and Pettitte with Hughes, IPK and Aceves as backups seems preety solid to me. They don't really need anybody at this point.

[cougarjake13]

espn is reporting that the yanks sign mark teixiera to 8 yr 180 mil deal


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141

[KingModem]

espn is reporting that the yanks sign mark teixiera to 8 yr 180 mil deal

The Yankees last three deals (CC, AJ, and Tex), will amount to more than 8 other teams full payroll in 2009.

If you are not from NY, this is fucking disgusting.

This is why my children will grow up hating the Yanks/Red Sox, because they are the biggest bullies on the playground.

[cougarjake13]

The Yankees last three deals (CC, AJ, and Tex), will amount to more than 8 other teams full payroll in 2009.

If you are not from NY, this is fucking disgusting.

This is why my children will grow up hating the Yanks/Red Sox, because they are the biggest bullies on the playground.

its crazy but they got the money to spend so i cant blame them for it

[Tallman388]

You've got to spend money to make money, I guess. If you want to cash in why not play for the yankees? I would. But I'm a little biased.

[HBox]

The Yankees last three deals (CC, AJ, and Tex), will amount to more than 8 other teams full payroll in 2009.

If you are not from NY, this is fucking disgusting.

This is why my children will grow up hating the Yanks/Red Sox, because they are the biggest bullies on the playground.

Look at the bright side: 7 years from now your team won't be paying Sabathia and Teixeira 22 mil each.

[Kevin]

What people are not getting is, the Yankees are not spending stupid. Besides Burnett because of his injuries. But if he is healthy, The Yanks have signed players that are still young and in thier prime. Tex CC 28, and Burnett 32. The Yanks sp is age is 23 28 28 32 the only old guy is Andy if he resigns. If not, Hughes 22. Tex is perfect for the Yanks. Switch hitting GG power high avg.1B
Who would want that?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

great job spending (no sarcasm)

If you fill the centerfielder void, anything less then a World Series appearance is a complete failure

[cougarjake13]

What people are not getting is, the Yankees are not spending stupid. Besides Burnett because of his injuries. But if he is healthy, The Yanks have signed players that are still young and in thier prime. Tex CC 28, and Burnett 32

and with all the money that came off the books i think they'll be right around the payroll they had last year

[foodcourtdruide]

What people are not getting is, the Yankees are not spending stupid. Besides Burnett because of his injuries. But if he is healthy, The Yanks have signed players that are still young and in thier prime. Tex CC 28, and Burnett 32

I don't understand your point. The Yankees paid a lot of money for great players? Who has said Mark Teixeira and CC Sabbathia weren't great players?

[cougarjake13]

i cant tell if you're being serious or facetious.......if you're being serious then i need you to explain to me exactly how the Yankees NEED Moose. Cause CC, Wang, Burnett, Joba, and Pettitte with Hughes, IPK and Aceves as backups seems preety solid to me. They don't really need anybody at this point.



true i think that post is pre burnett signing but lets say pettite retires or signs with la or whoever


wouldnt you rather have moose over hughes, ipk or aceves ???

[foodcourtdruide]

true i think that post is pre burnett signing but lets say pettite retires or signs with la or whoever


wouldnt you rather have moose over hughes, ipk or aceves ???

YES X100000

[FezsAssistant]

The Yankees last three deals (CC, AJ, and Tex), will amount to more than 8 other teams full payroll in 2009.

If you are not from NY, this is fucking disgusting.

This is why my children will grow up hating the Yanks/Red Sox, because they are the biggest bullies on the playground.

Yes. It's much better to pocket the money greedily than to put it back into your business and try to keep customers happy. How horrible of the Yanks to do such a thing. Passion is a terrible thing.

[Jujubees2]

Yes. It's much better to pocket the money greedily than to put it back into your business and try to keep customers happy. How horrible of the Yanks to do such a thing. Passion is a terrible thing.

But they have no problem greedily pocketing NYC taxpayers money?

[cougarjake13]

Yes. It's much better to pocket the money greedily than to put it back into your business and try to keep customers happy. How horrible of the Yanks to do such a thing. Passion is a terrible thing.

But they have no problem greedily pocketing NYC taxpayers money?

he's referring to small market teams recieving millions of dollars a year from revunue sharing and still having shit payrolls

while the yanks arent greedily pocketing the money, theyre using it to build a new stadium


could they build it without the help ?? maybe but if someone is gonna give you money wouldnt you take it ??


plus in this shitty economy how many construction workers are working because 3 major sport stadiums are being built ?? thats a shit load of jobs

[FezsAssistant]

he's referring to small market teams recieving millions of dollars a year from revunue sharing and still having shit payrolls

while the yanks arent greedily pocketing the money, theyre using it to build a new stadium


could they build it without the help ?? maybe but if someone is gonna give you money wouldnt you take it ??


plus in this shitty economy how many construction workers are working because 3 major sport stadiums are being built ?? thats a shit load of jobs

I couldn't have made the points better myself.

[PD]

newsday also reporting it
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sptex1224,0,1250018.story

[foodcourtdruide]

Yes. It's much better to pocket the money greedily than to put it back into your business and try to keep customers happy. How horrible of the Yanks to do such a thing. Passion is a terrible thing.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the Yankees aren't within their rights to do what they are doing.

[Freitag]

Remember:

Even with these three signings, the Yankees Payroll is STILL less than it was last year.

And Damon and Matsui come off the books next year.

This is not digusting. Hal Steinbrenner has established himself as Michael Corleone, and today, he's settling all family business.

[TheGameHHH]

true i think that post is pre burnett signing but lets say pettite retires or signs with la or whoever


wouldnt you rather have moose over hughes, ipk or aceves ???

i also see your point.....but we have to also factor in age and upside. do i want 2007 Moose over those guys? no. will i be getting 2008 moose? i dont know for certain, but id probably take 2008 moose over those guys. i just have no idea what im getting with him so i dont see how the Yankees NEED him.

and im literally shocked with Teixiera. wow......this is unreal.

[foodcourtdruide]

Remember:

Even with these three signings, the Yankees Payroll is STILL less than it was last year.

And Damon and Matsui come off the books next year.

This is not digusting. Hal Steinbrenner has established himself as Michael Corleone, and today, he's settling all family business.

This seems true, but the Yankees don't have all 25 roster spots filled yet. Doesn't it seem like they'll get at least one more starting pitcher?

EDIT: Also, aren't they looking for a Catcher? What is their catching situation?

[TheGameHHH]

This seems true, but the Yankees don't have all 25 roster spots filled yet. Doesn't it seem like they'll get at least one more starting pitcher?

Yea, probably Pettitte for a hometown "discount" of $10 million

[cougarjake13]

i also see your point.....but we have to also factor in age and upside. do i want 2007 Moose over those guys? no. will i be getting 2008 moose? i dont know for certain, but id probably take 2008 moose over those guys. i just have no idea what im getting with him so i dont see how the Yankees NEED him.

and im literally shocked with Teixiera. wow......this is unreal.

well the best way to try and tell was what did he do last year if anything that was diff from the previous yrs where he struggled


if it was just nothing more than the yanks scoring more runs in his starts in 08 than previous yrs then thats something you cant definitely count on happening again

if it was some flaw he fixed in his prep or mechanics then you'd might be able to say that you'd be getting 08 moose

worst case scenario is he comes back, isnt 08 moose and in may or june you go to ipk or hughes

[Jujubees2]

plus in this shitty economy how many construction workers are working because 3 major sport stadiums are being built ?? thats a shit load of jobs

And the construction workers would still be working if a team that just shelled almost $400 million paid for the construction of their own stadium instead of asking for city handouts.

[cougarjake13]

And the construction workers would still be working if a team that just shelled almost $400 million paid for the construction of their own stadium instead of asking for city handouts.

i dunno


i dont think either team woulda built new stadiums without the help

[cougarjake13]

And the construction workers would still be working if a team that just shelled almost $400 million paid for the construction of their own stadium instead of asking for city handouts.



and the difference is also that the 400 mil spent on players isnt all at once

its spread out over the next 8 to 10 yrs



the yanks arent gonna shell 400 mil over the last yr and half to build the stadium themselves, yeh maybe tey take out a loan or something but that wsnt happening


and every team gets taxpayer help, why would the yanks be any different

[zildjian361]

Mark Tex a real 1st baseman, money well spent the should give him Tino's #24 our last real 1st baseman:clap:

[Marc with a c]

yankees have the top four biggest contracts in baseball.

[lleeder]

yankees have the top four biggest contracts in baseball.

Thanks for info, mr late to the party obvious statement guy.

[vjr97]

aj,cc,teixiera......way to go yankees. they actualy put the money they make back into their team unlike the reast of the majors.fuck u mets and red sox fans:thumbup:

[Don Stugots]

yankees have the top four biggest contracts in baseball.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Yeah i heard that somewhere.....

[Kevin]

I don't understand your point. The Yankees paid a lot of money for great players? Who has said Mark Teixeira and CC Sabbathia weren't great players?



My point again is. They had to improve their team. They needed a all around player,at least two pitchers. They payed market value for all of them. Its not like they are spending money just to spend. Or are doing a NY Rangers were they got old players. You cant really bash them.

[Kevin]

Yanks scored 5more runs than the O's last year. And they lost Abreu and Giambi. Yes, they needed Tex. Also, he will save a ton of errors for Jeter and ARod

[PerryWinkle]

I know everyone is bitching about these contracts, but how much more will their payroll be this year from last year since they are losing giambi's, abreu, pavona, farnsworth, moose's and pettite's contracts? right now they really aren't much more than last year

[TheGameHHH]

I know everyone is bitching about these contracts, but how much more will their payroll be this year from last year since they are losing giambi's, abreu, pavona, farnsworth, moose's and pettite's contracts? right now they really aren't much more than last year

right now, as of this second.....with Teixeira it's still less then last season

[PerryWinkle]

right now, as of this second.....with Teixeira it's still less then last season

did anyone really think they were going to have a lower payroll this year? I'm glad they spent the money on Tex instead of manny

[brettmojo]

This finally makes me look forward to next season.

[FezsAssistant]

after 2009, i believe damon, matsui and nady come off the books, too. that'll be about another 35 million gone (16, 16, 3+ million respectively).
hopefully OF austin jackson will be ready by then.
they could pick up Holliday, with the payroll space. or Webb.
or battle with the sox for Mauer.

[Hal Steinbrenner]

I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. Courtesy of ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3789673)...

NEW YORK -- The price of a bleacher seat for the exhibition openers at the new Yankee Stadium will cost far less than a soda.

The New York Yankees said Tuesday that bleacher seats for the games against the Chicago Cubs on April 3 and 4 will sell for 25 cents and grandstand tickets will be $1.10. That matches the prices for the opener of the original Yankee Stadium against Boston on April 18, 1923.

Field level seats at the 52,325-seat ballpark will cost $45-$50, main level $20-$45 and terrace level $20-$35. Full season-ticket holders will get the seats for free, and those who bought partial season-tickets will be given a presale.

The new ballpark has 5,000 bleacher and 11,000 grandstand seats. Because season tickets still are being sold, the Yankees don't know how many of the low-priced tickets will be available for individual sale.

The regular-season opener is scheduled for April 16 against Cleveland. Tickets cost up to $2,500 a game during the regular season.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

HOT DOGS WILL STILL COST 5 BUCKS. FYI.

[Doctor Z]

Mark Tex a real 1st baseman, money well spent the should give him Tino's #24 our last real 1st baseman:clap:

He'll probably just keep his current #25... it just recently became available.

[Big_Joe]

Tex should be #26 this way our last 4 1B's would have been #'s 23, 24, 25, and 26 in that order. :thumbup: He probably won't but it would be funny.

[TheMojoPin]

Tex and ARod? Possibly the most amazing #3-4 punch in all of baseball, however you order them. The rest of the lineup? Ehhhhhhhhh...if the Yanks really wanted to shore this up, snatch up Dunn for the DH. That would be sick.

[NickyL0885]

This will be even more funnier when the dont win the WS and some other small market team beats them in the playoffs.

[Kevin]

"Teixeira really didn't want to be a Red Sox," a baseball official familiar with the negotiations said. "He wanted to be a Yankee, and [Cashman] got a deal done."

Of course he didn't.

[NickyL0885]

The Teixeira deal will possibly set up an interesting theory thats been suggested. If the Angels lose out on Manny as well, there is talk that they would try to acquire Carlos Delgado from the Mets. Id ask immeadiately for Mike Napoli, their young catcher, if I'm the Mets. I dont think Delgado will replicate his production. stick Murphy at first and sign Pat Burrell.

[jonyrotn]

there is talk that they would try to acquire Carlos Delgado from the Mets. Id ask immeadiately for Mike Napoli, their young catcher, if I'm the Mets. I dont think Delgado will replicate his production. stick Murphy at first and sign Pat Burrell.The only problem with this trade is Mike Socia is in love with Napoli and I doubt he'd part with him for an aging first baseman.
If I were Omar Minaya I'd sign Pat "the Bat" Burrell just so I didn't have to face him and get burnt by him anymore..He's always had the Mets number..

[cougarjake13]

The Teixeira deal will possibly set up an interesting theory thats been suggested. If the Angels lose out on Manny as well, there is talk that they would try to acquire Carlos Delgado from the Mets. Id ask immeadiately for Mike Napoli, their young catcher, if I'm the Mets. I dont think Delgado will replicate his production. stick Murphy at first and sign Pat Burrell.

The only problem with this trade is Mike Socia is in love with Napoli and I doubt he'd part with him for an aging first baseman.
If I were Omar Minaya I'd sign Pat "the Bat" Burrell just so I didn't have to face him and get burnt by him anymore..He's always had the Mets number..


that'd be great

then we can return the favor for mo vaughn

[brettmojo]

When do tickets go on sale to the general public? The 1st?

[cougarjake13]

When do tickets go on sale to the general public? The 1st?

for what ?? reg season ??

[brettmojo]

for what ?? reg season ??
Yeah.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah.

licensee relocation and season tix are already up for sale it seems according to the yanks website


individual games i cant find anything yet

[Kevin]

From our boy PA


Mark Teixeira, a Yankee for two weeks, officially dons the pinstripes tomorrow at 1 p.m. at the old Stadium.
At what point do you expect Manny Ramirez to charge into the room and try and steal the jersey away? The Yankees should hire extra security.

[Kevin]

oops, wanted to edit and hit reply

[TheMojoPin]

From our boy PA


Mark Teixeira, a Yankee for two weeks, officially dons the pinstripes tomorrow at 1 p.m. at the old Stadium.
At what point do you expect Manny Ramirez to charge into the room and try and steal the jersey away? The Yankees should hire extra security.

The Yanks should hope that he does.

If they signed him or Dunn to be the DH...oh man.

[cougarjake13]

From our boy PA


Mark Teixeira, a Yankee for two weeks, officially dons the pinstripes tomorrow at 1 p.m. at the old Stadium.
At what point do you expect Manny Ramirez to charge into the room and try and steal the jersey away? The Yankees should hire extra security.

haha so manny does the run in and keeps the jersey but really isnt a teammate

they'll meet at wrestlemania , winner takes all

[HBox]

From our boy PA


Mark Teixeira, a Yankee for two weeks, officially dons the pinstripes tomorrow at 1 p.m. at the old Stadium.
At what point do you expect Manny Ramirez to charge into the room and try and steal the jersey away? The Yankees should hire extra security.

I'm sure he will explain it was totally not about the money.

[Kevin]

I'm sure he will explain it was totally not about the money.

CC and AJ said it had alot to do with it..

[Kevin]

haha so manny does the run in and keeps the jersey but really isnt a teammate

they'll meet at wrestlemania , winner takes all

Does Manny come out to

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or

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[brettmojo]

Report: Pettitte rejects Yankees' offer (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3813025)


Andy Pettitte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3171) may not be returning to the New York Yankees (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy) after all.
The left-handed starter has rejected the Yankees' one-year, $10 million offer, The New York Times reported, citing a person with knowledge of the negotiations. The door does not appear closed on Pettitte returning to New York. The New York Daily News reported that according to a person close to the situation, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has "had dialogue" in recent days with Pettitte's agents, Randy and Alan Hendricks.
Meh.

[FezsAssistant]

Pettitte's not even worth the 10 million. What an ungrateful creep.
Let's go with Aceves.

[brettmojo]

Pettitte's not even worth the 10 million. What an ungrateful creep.
Let's go with Aceves.
Agreed. Plus it's a lot better situation going into the season with one rookie starter than it was with two like last year.

[Kevin]

BrettMojo is inconsolable (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/01/06/indians.pavano.ap/index.html)

[FezsAssistant]

Agreed. Plus it's a lot better situation going into the season with one rookie starter than it was with two like last year.

Last year was pretty much 3! rookies: Joba (still new, unproven starter), Hughes, Kennedy.

Going with Aceves (or Hughes) is still risky, only because AJ Burnett WILL breakdown and Joba won't pitch a full year as a starter. I guess Hughes (or Aceves) would be the back up.
Coke will be in the mix, too, but probably as the long relief guy.

[brettmojo]

BrettMojo is inconsolable (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/01/06/indians.pavano.ap/index.html)
If he goes 18-5 I'll personally rape his entire family.

[TheMojoPin]

If he goes 18-5 I'll personally rape his entire family.

But what if his pitching stats that actually mean something still stink?

[brettmojo]

But what if his pitching stats that actually mean something still stink?
He's not on the Yankees or Red Sox. If his ERA is over 5 and he walks as many as he K's his record isn't gonna' be artificially inflated pitching for the Indians.

[TheMojoPin]

He's not on the Yankees or Red Sox. If his ERA is over 5 and he walks as many as he K's his record isn't gonna' be artificially inflated pitching for the Indians.

He's only going 18-5 if his team is good.

I wish I could ban the pitching W/L record.

Worst stat ever?

[epo]

So the City of New York forked over $942 million in tax-free bonds for the new Yankee Stadium. Now the Yankees want another $370 million from the City? Talk about corporate welfare!

The Yankees will officially now be the most hated team in the world.

[Snoogans]

So the City of New York forked over $942 million in tax-free bonds for the new Yankee Stadium. Now the Yankees want another $370 million from the City? Talk about corporate welfare!

The Yankees will officially now be the most hated team in the world.

Must be gettin ready to go after Sheets and Manny

[Snoogans]

This is from ESPN. Id link it, but the whole article is pretty small:
ALBANY, N.Y. -- An official said Tuesday that a New York Assembly committee investigating the use of millions of dollars in public funding to build the new Yankee Stadium has issued subpoenas to the team's president and an official with the city economic development office.

The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the subpoenas haven't been announced.

The subpoenas compel Yankees president Randy Levine and Seth Pinsky of the city Economic Development Corp. to attend a hearing Wednesday. Pinsky's group is helping the team get public funding.

A Levine spokeswoman said Levine has been told he would be subpoenaed but hasn't yet received it. There was no immediate comment from Pinsky's spokeswoman.

[Kevin]

Here is a view of the new Yankee Stadium, Tex, and CC, fr0m MLB The Show 09..

Pretty cool.


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[Snoogans]

It Looks Exactly The Same

[TheMojoPin]

Here is a view of the new Yankee Stadium, Tex, and CC, fr0m MLB The Show 09..

Pretty cool.


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Oh, look.

Tex batting #3 and ARod batting #4.

Morons.

[Snoogans]

Oh, look.

Tex batting #3 and ARod batting #4.

Morons.

HAHAHAHAHA

[Kevin]

It Looks Exactly The Same

No more black in cf, thats about it for the diff.. And you don't have the runway in right center either

[Kevin]

Oh, look.

Tex batting #3 and ARod batting #4.

Morons.

Someone has to drive in big runs in big spots before Arod has a chance to K or DP.

[TheMojoPin]

Someone has to drive in big runs in big spots before Arod has a chance to K or DP.

God forbid you hit/play a guy where he'd be at his best. That wouldn't be the Yankee way. I wouldn't be stunned if they had Tex bat leadoff and catch, just because they can.

[cougarjake13]

God forbid you hit/play a guy where he'd be at his best. That wouldn't be the Yankee way. I wouldn't be stunned if they had Tex bat leadoff and catch, just because they can.

ive heard they're also gonna let CC be the dh on his non pitching days

[sailor]

God forbid you hit/play a guy where he'd be at his best. That wouldn't be the Yankee way. I wouldn't be stunned if they had Tex bat leadoff and catch, just because they can.

you should know better (http://www.retrosheet.org/Research/RuaneT/lineup_art.htm) than that.

[TheMojoPin]

you should know better (http://www.retrosheet.org/Research/RuaneT/lineup_art.htm) than that.

I was trying to channel the Yankee coaching staff/front office brilliance, but that's actually a good point. I fucking loathe the continued insistence of putting scrappy "fast" guys in the #1 and especially the #2 spot. All it does is push your better hitters further down in the lineup and get them less AB's for the sake of guys who are usually MUCH worse offensive players. Combine that with the point of the "classic" 1-2 guys needing to get on base and score, and your better hitters tend to either get on base a ton adn/or generate a shitload of runs, just move the better bats up. Start the big guns at #2, goddammit. I'd have zero problem if my team was stacked and they just start the big bats at #1...hell, the almost do now with Soriano. Just cut to the chase and move everyone up a slot. Like the page rightly says, lineup structure is VASTLY overrated.

And "leadoff" isn't really a position.

[brettmojo]

Come out of hiding folks.

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2136580&posted=1#post2136580

[TheGameHHH]

Girardi canceled practice today and took the guys to a pool hall, I like when stuff like that happens

[JerseyRich]

Girardi canceled practice today and took the guys to a pool hall, I like when stuff like that happens

I heard Jerry Manuel did that last week with his team and it ended in multiple rapes.

[Kevin]

I heard Jerry Manuel did that last week with his team and it ended in multiple rapes.



He took them to the Puerto Rican Day Parade?

[brettmojo]

Girardi canceled practice today and took the guys to a pool hall, I like when stuff like that happens
He should have taken them to a hockey rink and let them chase a beach ball around on ice skates.

I bet it would have been fun until Team Iceland showed up.

[TheMojoPin]

Come out of hiding folks.

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2136580&posted=1#post2136580

Yeah, go vote for your team, you bastards. There's no excuse for the Yankees to fall out of it quick given how many of their fans post here reguarly.

[brettmojo]

Yeah, go vote for your team, you bastards. There's no excuse for the Yankees to fall out of it quick given how many of their fans post here reguarly.
You would think.

[JPMNICK]

i had no clue this was even going on, but i voted today. Yanks are not going to be around long at this rate

[TheGameHHH]

Yeah, go vote for your team, you bastards. There's no excuse for the Yankees to fall out of it quick given how many of their fans post here reguarly.



I'd vote but to be honest that game bores me. I wouldn't vote more than once so it seems useless to me

[Kevin]

Yeah, go vote for your team, you bastards. There's no excuse for the Yankees to fall out of it quick given how many of their fans post here reguarly.



One, that game, like the 3 point infraction is for fags. And two, whats the use, all you haters are just gunna team up and knock em out like you did with the Giants.

[Knowledged_one]

Real fans i see

[TheMojoPin]

Real fans i see

No kidding. There's probably around 10 regular posters here who are clearly diehard Yankees fans who would keep their team in it for the long haul if they just stopped bitching.

[TheMojoPin]

One, that game, like the 3 point infraction is for fags. And two, whats the use, all you haters are just gunna team up and knock em out like you did with the Giants.

That just got you an infraction.

[Kevin]

That just got you an infraction.



Nice work, JustMojo.

[TheMojoPin]

YOU WANT TWO MORE DAMAGE, SON?!?!

Go vote for your team.

[brettmojo]

Gardner rules.

[TheMojoPin]

ARod likely to miss 10 weeks due to surgery to have a cyst on his hip removed. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3954457)

[brettmojo]

ARod likely to miss 10 weeks due to surgery to have a cyst on his hip removed. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3954457)
!@#$%&$!*&*(!!

[TheGameHHH]

10 weeks isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things

[Snoogans]

its minimum of 10 weeks. Im hearing most likely he is out til beginning of june with this.

Someone called the FAN today and said this is bullshit, he was suspended 50 games by MLB and they made this shit up to make him look better. As silly as it seems, the timeline fits right with it.

[TheMojoPin]

its minimum of 10 weeks. Im hearing most likely he is out til beginning of june with this.

Someone called the FAN today and said this is bullshit, he was suspended 50 games by MLB and they made this shit up to make him look better. As silly as it seems, the timeline fits right with it.

Is he gonna hang out with Tiger, Jordan and Clemens to get tips as how to kill time on a secret suspension?

[Snoogans]

Is he gonna hang out with Tiger, Jordan and Clemens to get tips as how to kill time on a secret suspension?

the only one that doesnt make sense is Tiger. He didnt do anything.

[TheMojoPin]

the only one that doesnt make sense is Tiger. He didnt do anything.

For being too good.

And murder.

[Snoogans]

For being too good.

And murder.

They don't test for murder in the PGA

[razorboy]

ARod likely to miss 10 weeks due to surgery to have a cyst on his hip removed. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3954457)

Not to worry. Angel Presinal is standing by with a gym bag full of "hip cyst medication".

[Snoogans]

Not to worry. Angel Presinal is standing by with a gym bag full of "hip cyst medication".

if he actually has a cyst in his hip, id guess its from the fuckin steroids

[TheMojoPin]

They don't test for murder in the PGA

Face it...he's a monster.

10/25.

Never forget.

Tiger did 10/25.

[TheMojoPin]

if he actually has a cyst in his hip, id guess its from the fuckin steroids

How dare you talk bad about steroids like that.

If he had stayed on them, this wouldn't be happening.

[Snoogans]

Face it...he's a monster.

10/25.

Never forget.

Tiger did 10/25.

is that Michael Jordan's dad or something?


and they would never suspend Tiger for being too good. Notice they lost TONS when he was gone

[razorboy]

How dare you talk bad about steroids like that.

If he had stayed on them, this wouldn't be happening.

If. Ha.

[Snoogans]

How dare you talk bad about steroids like that.

If he had stayed on them, this wouldn't be happening.

I said they should use em. i didnt say they were perfect. Maybe he has an abcess

[TheMojoPin]

is that Michael Jordan's dad or something?


and they would never suspend Tiger for being too good. Notice they lost TONS when he was gone

But then the hype of his return.

It's diabolical.

[Snoogans]

But then the hype of his return.

It's diabolical.

Yea as opposed to just having huge ratings the whole time

[TheMojoPin]

Yea as opposed to just having huge ratings the whole time

Eh, he was becoming business as usual. They orchestrate the surgery and him playing injured to whet people's appetites, then he lays low for a whole...then BAM. It's Tiger mania all over again.

[Snoogans]

Eh, he was becoming business as usual. They orchestrate the surgery and him playing injured to whet people's appetites, then he lays low for a whole...then BAM. It's Tiger mania all over again.

If thats the case Tiger should get an oscar for that performance during the US Open

[TheMojoPin]

If thats the case Tiger should get an oscar for that performance during the US Open

Well, he is an evil mastermind.

[razorboy]

Eh, he was becoming business as usual. They orchestrate the surgery and him playing injured to whet people's appetites, then he lays low for a whole...then BAM. It's Tiger mania all over again.

I loved the drama of him losing to Tim Clark in the second round of the match play championship.

[TheMojoPin]

I loved the drama of him losing to Tim Clark in the second round of the match play championship.

It's all part of the plan.

[Snoogans]

Tiger will win the Masters.....and the US Open.....and prob the Birtish

[Freitag]

Can we lock this thread and start a new one? This has the stench of last year's failure.

[TheGameHHH]

Love the jump to conclusions mat in this thread

[TheMojoPin]

Love the jump to conclusions mat in this thread

But wait! It gets better!

General manager Brian Cashman said Thursday that Alex Rodriguez has a torn hip labrum and cyst, but will attempt to play through the injuries rather than undergo surgery.

Rodriguez's brother told reporters earlier in the day that Rodriguez would be out for 8-10 weeks following surgery, but the Journal News now reports that "the cyst was drained" and "they're trying rest and rehab." Rodriguez is definitely out for the World Baseball Classic and it seems unlikely that he'll be able to return without missing significant time, but certainly the possibility of avoiding surgery is good news for the Yankees if they're confident rest will do the trick. Stay tuned.

OK, I'm no doctor, but when a pitcher has a torn shoulder labrum, that's pretty fucking bad. I can't imagine the situation is that much better for a hitetr with a torn hip labrum on top of the cyst issue.

I actually hope he gets the surgery and doesn't fuck up his career by risking play.

[Snoogans]

But wait! It gets better!



OK, I'm no doctor, but when a pitcher has a torn shoulder labrum, that's pretty fucking bad. I can't imagine the situation is that much better for a hitetr with a torn hip labrum on top of the cyst issue.

I actually hope he gets the surgery and doesn't fuck up his career by risking play.

read this (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3954149&name=bell_stephania)

[Kevin]

Like Joe Beningno said.

Arod will be out for the year, and watch the Yankees win the WS without him.

[JPMNICK]

Like Joe Beningno said.

Arod will be out for the year, and watch the Yankees win the WS without it.

my dad would be so happy if this happens. and then at the end of the season they trade him and send cash just to get him off the team

[Jujubees2]

read this (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3954149&name=bell_stephania)

Who cares about A-Rod's hip? Stephanie Bell can practice her physical therapy on me anytime!

[cougarjake13]

Like Joe Beningno said.

Arod will be out for the year, and watch the Yankees win the WS without him.

that'd be fucking hilarious

[TheMojoPin]

It ain't gonna happen. I'll bet you $1,000 there's no chance in Hell the Yankees win the WS if ARod is out all year.

[Kevin]

It ain't gonna happen. I'll bet you $1,000 there's no chance in Hell the Yankees win the WS if ARod is out all year.

Come on Mojo. Get up from your knees, stop your Arod blowing and admit that if that happens, it would be the funniest shit ever.

[monkfish]

Like Joe Beningno said.

Arod will be out for the year, and watch the Yankees win the WS without him.

As a Yankee fan living in Boston that would make me very happy. He hasn't fit in since day one.

[TheMojoPin]

Come on Mojo. Get up from your knees, stop your Arod blowing and admit that if that happens, it would be the funniest shit ever.

Oh, definitely. But it won't happen.

[Kevin]

Seriously though.

Let him have the surgery.

Even if he is out 4 months, fuck it.

Make a deal for an OK 3B.

And have Arod come back healthy by the Allstar break.

[razorboy]

It ain't gonna happen. I'll bet you $1,000 there's no chance in Hell the Yankees win the WS if ARod is out all year.

I'll bet you $1000 dollars there's no chance in hell the Yankees will win the World Series either way.

[TheGameHHH]

what Aaron Boone doing these days?

[Kevin]

I'll bet you $1000 dollars there's no chance in hell the Yankees will win the World Series either way.

Smells like a jelouse bitter Mets fan..

[razorboy]

Smells like a jelouse bitter Mets fan..

Not even close. Not even a Yankee hater. The Yankees just have severely flawed roster, with or without A Rod.

[A.J.]

Can we lock this thread and start a new one? This has the stench of last year's failure.

I told you guys that before when I was accused of being a jinx: one of you Yanks fans start a new thread and I'll gladly lock this one up.

[cougarjake13]

what Aaron Boone doing these days?

he's on the houston astros i think

[TheGameHHH]

he's on the houston astros i think

pick em up!!!!!!!!!!

[Jujubees2]

he's on the houston astros i think

pick em up!!!!!!!!!!

Nah, the Steinbrenners will just buy the Astros.

[Snoogans]

I heard Hippos say Yanks are a lock for the WS

[Kevin]

I heard Hippos say Yanks are a lock for the WS



Do you really fear the Yankees that much that you are will to spread these horrific lies?

[Snoogans]

Do you really fear the Yankees that much that you are will to spread these horrific lies?

he said it bro. No lies. Sorry, man

[TheGameHHH]

I heard Hippos say Yanks are a lock for the WS

thats just fucking mean

[brettmojo]

I really rather Rodriguez goes ahead with the surgery now and returns somewhere around July or whatever rather than this wait and see plan. He's gotta' be here for another decade... That's more important than this year. Besides it'd be nice to have a few months without having to deal with the garbage that's been hanging around the guy.