2009 New York Yankees Season Discussion

[Kevin]

Sounds like a line from "The Warriors".

Who makes it:

DJ
A-Rod
Jorge
Mo
Moose
Andy (If he wants to)
Nady
Damon
Gardner
Joba
Molina
Matsui
Marte
Ransom

Who doesn't make it:
Melky
Cano
Abreu
Giambi

Aceves might have a shot at making the rotation next year, depending on what happens in the Off-season. And unless they get a big pitcher or CF for him, i don't see Cano going.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'd be more worried about Wrigley if the Cubs win on the road. Those animals will go straight there and burn the motherfucker down unless there's max security at an empty stadium.

If the Cubs win the world series, Harry Carey will rise from the grave and Santo's legs will spontaneously grow back. Dogs and cats, living together.

[TheMojoPin]

I'd be more worried about Wrigley if the Cubs win on the road. Those animals will go straight there and burn the motherfucker down unless there's max security at an empty stadium.

Not unless it's methed out White Sox fans. Cubs fans would never burn Wrigley. We'll just go to the southside and take it out on the Cell.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That mound isn't going to exist by the time all the pitchers are done with it.

[HBox]

I don't think Andy or Moose should nor will be back. Andy has been bad this year and I'm not betting on Moose doing this again next year.

Kim Jones whored herself up on YES.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Not unless it's methed out White Sox fans. Cubs fans would never burn Wrigley. We'll just go to the southside and take it out on the Cell.

Worst case scenario: Cubs vs. White Sox. What kind of riot then?

I see the streets running yellow with Old Style, and Lincoln Park being razed.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't think Andy or Moose should nor will be back. Andy has been bad this year and I'm not betting on Moose doing this again next year.

Kim Jones whored herself up on YES.

I never realized how big her tits were until tonight. Purple is DEFINITELY a good color for her.

[K.C.]

I'd be more worried about Wrigley if the Cubs win on the road. Those animals will go straight there and burn the motherfucker down unless there's max security at an empty stadium.

Great Chicago Fire Part II.





...I don't know...if I can indulge in a stupid Rick Reilly moment for a second, this whole thing seems way too forced.

It's got to be a really nice thing for guys like Jeter and Mariano, but the bottom line is it's a third place team, that's not going to make the playoffs, and at least half the team that has no real tie to any of the history of the Yankees or Yankee Stadium.

A lot of it seems like forced buzz.

I always preferred the way the Dodgers went out in Brooklyn. 6,000 die-hards in the stands...the same people who showed up for most of the games, just having their own little moment instead of all the ESPN hype machine bullshit.


But ultimately, what matters is if Yankee fans enjoy it, so if they did, it was good.

[Devo37]

they didn't seem to put much thought into the post-game music. i know New York New York is their song when they win, but it's playing for the 8th time now! maybe switching to an instrumental version as background music would've been a better idea.

btw, even as a Mets fan, i got some goose-bumps with some of the 'memories' they showed.

2nd btw, i hate Jon Miller & Joe Morgan as an announce-team.

[TheMojoPin]

Worst case scenario: Cubs vs. White Sox. What kind of riot then?

I see the streets running yellow with Old Style, and Lincoln Park being razed.

Total destruction. It'll make the Great Fire look like a sparkler.

[K.C.]

Worst case scenario: Cubs vs. White Sox. What kind of riot then?


That may turn into a full-fledged race war.

North side vs. South side.

[HBox]

Great Chicago Fire Part II.





...I don't know...if I can indulge in a stupid Rick Reilly moment for a second, this whole thing seems way too forced.

It's got to be a really nice thing for guys like Jeter and Mariano, but the bottom line is it's a third place team, that's not going to make the playoffs, and at least half the team that has no real tie to any of the history of the Yankees or Yankee Stadium.

A lot of it seems like forced buzz.

I always preferred the way the Dodgers went out in Brooklyn. 6,000 die-hards in the stands...the same people who showed up for most of the games, just having their own little moment instead of all the ESPN hype machine bullshit.


But ultimately, what matters is if Yankee fans enjoy it, so if they did, it was good.

It seems like every Yankee moment is over-the-top forced like this. History is a matter of course in Yankee land. It's something that will always happen, to be expected.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't think Andy or Moose should nor will be back. Andy has been bad this year and I'm not betting on Moose doing this again next year.

Kim Jones whored herself up on YES.

I don't think Andy will be back either. I think this is it for him. But then again, we said that about Moose last year and look what happened.

I think Moose will get a nice one year deal as a thank you. I think he wants to be there, he hasn't given any indication he's done. He learned how to be a control pitcher than a power pitcher.

I'd take Moose back.

[TheMojoPin]

Is the Voice of Death making the move across the street?

[HBox]

Is the Voice of Death making the move across the street?

Only if that's where his coffin is.

[TheMojoPin]

That may turn into a full-fledged race war.

North side vs. South side.

Nah, that would have involve the West. That's where all the main segregation and urban apartheid has been moved to.

[AngryAsianGuy]

You guys done with Matsui yet? He needed here for final go-round with Tokyo Giants.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Dumb question, why doesn't Tino work for YES?

hahahahaha, no one recognized Tino in the Bleachers.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You guys done with Matsui yet? He needed here for final go-round with Tokyo Giants.

Going in for surgery tomorrow.

[K.C.]

You guys done with Matsui yet? He needed here for final go-round with Tokyo Giants.

Hey, we gave you Selleck.

http://videodetective.com/photos/210/008861_26.jpg


Sounds like a fair deal to me.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Once the payroll is razed next year (even with the addition of Sabathia, still won't be as bad as this year once Giambi, etc. are off the books), I can see this team going back to what it was like in the late 90's. Built around character guys, not assembled superstars. I can see Nady being a huge anchor for this club.

Gardner, if he can start hitting, is gonna be a fucking superstar. He may blow Jeter out of the water with the trim he can pull down if he can hit.

[HBox]

Once the payroll is razed next year (even with the addition of Sabathia, still won't be as bad as this year once Giambi, etc. are off the books), I can see this team going back to what it was like in the late 90's. Built around character guys, not assembled superstars. I can see Nady being a huge anchor for this club.

Gardner, if he can start hitting, is gonna be a fucking superstar. He may blow Jeter out of the water with the trim he can pull down if he can hit.

He's a fourth OF, place holder CF at best until Austin Jackson is ready.

[TheGameHHH]

Sounds like a line from "The Warriors".

Who makes it:

DJ
A-Rod
Jorge
Mo
Moose
Andy (If he wants to)
Nady
Damon
Gardner
Joba
Molina
Matsui
Marte
Ransom

Who doesn't make it:
Melky
Cano
Abreu
Giambi

Robinson Cano is absolutely making it across the street, one bad season does not a career make.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Robinson Cano is absolutely making it across the street, one bad season does not a career make.

Attitude problem.

[K.C.]

I will say one thing.

Today is a perfect microcosm of New York baseball.


The Yankees celebrate a storied lore with Hall of Famer, and Yankee greats, past and present, and send off Yankee Stadium with a convincing victory.

...the Mets blow a two run lead in the 8th.


All in all, it sums up everything.

[TheGameHHH]

Attitude problem.

agreed, and im certain he will be given a strict set of guidelines he must abide by in order to keep his job. but they aren't getting rid of him, he still has wayyyy too much of an upside.

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Once the payroll is razed next year (even with the addition of Sabathia, still won't be as bad as this year once Giambi, etc. are off the books), I can see this team going back to what it was like in the late 90's. Built around character guys, not assembled superstars. I can see Nady being a huge anchor for this club.

Gardner, if he can start hitting, is gonna be a fucking superstar. He may blow Jeter out of the water with the trim he can pull down if he can hit.

god i hope your right i'm so sick of seeing new yorkers rockin red sox hats cause they won a few championships.

[HBox]

Either that's a really bad angle or Kim Jones has fat lady legs.

[A.J.]

I was at the last game at the Boston Garden and watching the pre-game ceremonies reminded me a lot of that night. Well done.

[Doctor Z]

Shit was amazing, worth every penny.

And Kim Jones does have fat lady legs. I saw them in the dugout when I was walking around the field.

[brettmojo]

Not tha they should be doing it here, but it sucks with baseball now tha after a big game is done the cops have to come out and block the crowd. I look at the clips of the crowds streaming onto the field after a huge win over the years with envy.

One guy sitting near us on the right field side jumped and tried to run on the field after the cops showed up. He got about 20 yards and was piled upon. If he wanted to have any chance he should have ran out before the cops came on the field.

If they go to commercial before any of Rivera's entrance is over, i will throat Punch anyone at ESPN.

I got it recorded on my camera.

Christ, how fucking long is this game? 11 PM and still in the 7th??

Fuck American League Baseball.
They didn't start the game till' after 8:30. Christ, enjoy it. It's gotta be a nice little break from watching a pitcher try to bunt.

And Kim Jones looked freakin' hot tonight.

[Sinestro]

who is Kim jones? Any pics?

[HBox]

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[TheMojoPin]

Ew.

[A.J.]

Awww. Poor Roger.

Clemens heartbroken over Yankee Stadium snub

Estranged former Yankee Roger Clemens was "heartbroken" when his former team left him out of Sunday night's Stadium-farewell festivities, which included a video montage honoring the Bronx Bombers' greatest pitchers - but not him, a relative told The Post yesterday. Clemens was sitting at home in hurricane-ravaged Texas, in front of a battery-operated television on his living room couch, when the team delivered a final crushing blow to its former star. Clutching wife Debbie's hand on one side and mother-in-law Jan Wild's on the other, Clemens tuned in to his final team's last home game hoping for some recognition for helping win two World Series titles, Wild said. But that Rocket never launched. When the team played the video celebrating its greatest players at every position, the steroid-scandal-scarred Clemens was nowhere to be seen. "Debbie and I held his hand while we watched the game, and he was heartbroken," said Wild, 70. "Not mad. He still loves baseball and the Yankees, but it was sad what they did to him."

New York Post (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/mlb?cnn=yes)

[brettmojo]

Awww. Poor Roger.
He really brought it on himself. He should have taken the Pettitte route with the whole steroid report.

[joeyballsack]

What is even sadder is that Roger Clemens can't afford to get a generator for his estate and has to watch the game on a battery powered television.

[Don Stugots]

Fuck em. he has no one to blame but himself.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

http://right-thoughts.us/images/uploads/nelson-haha.gif


the Yankees Touched your Heart

[JimmieHats]

ROOOOOOO-GEEEEERRRR!
ROOOOOOO-GEEEEERRRR!

Lulz.

[Freitag]

What's even more shocking that Doc was acknowledged over Clemens, and Doc's had 20x more problems then Clemens in the eyes of the law.

Hell, EL DUQUE got a nod during that.

[Don Stugots]

What's even more shocking that Doc was acknowledged over Clemens, and Doc's had 20x more problems then Clemens in the eyes of the law.

Hell, EL DUQUE got a nod during that.

why wouldn't he? What did El Duque ever do that was so wrong?

[TheGameHHH]

Ignoring history is silly. The didn't have to glorify Clemens in any way but he deserves recognition just like anybody else, it's that simple.

[Freitag]

why wouldn't he? What did El Duque ever do that was so wrong?

Who are you to doubt El Duque?

[TheMojoPin]

It's stupid to ignore the steroid era players. The Cubs are doing the same thin basically pretending like Sammy didn't exist...nevermind he was the person that made the Cubs into the sellout team they are now. They put together a video to the new Eddie Vedder song about the team, and when they show clips flashing back to great players from the different eras, they picked Mark Grace over Sammy, and didn't include any Sosa clips at all.

[Don Stugots]

Who are you to doubt El Duque?

i'm not. your post made it seem like he did something wrong.

[brettmojo]

It's stupid to ignore the steroid era players. The Cubs are doing the same thin basically pretending like Sammy didn't exist...nevermind he was the person that made the Cubs into the sellout team they are now. They put together a video to the new Eddie Vedder song about the team, and when they show clips flashing back to great players from the different eras, they picked Mark Grace over Sammy, and didn't include any Sosa clips at all.
I don't it's so much the steroids as it is the pending litigation and the way he tried to lie about it.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't it's so much the steroids as it is the pending litigation and the way he tried to lie about it.

Fuck it. He was still an essential part of the Yankees winning a couple WS.

[cougarjake13]

so what ever happened with clemens and mcnamee ??

[TheGameHHH]

well folks, it's all over. Moose is at 19 though, going for 20 on the last day. Will he choke????

[JPMNICK]

well folks, it's all over. Moose is at 19 though, going for 20 on the last day. Will he choke????

i really hope he gets it. he is the Yankee MVP this season I think

[Doctor Z]

He's been robbed of so many wins this year... He should have 24 right now. I would love to see him at least get #20. Fingers crossed.

[brettmojo]

I hope the team doesn't blow it for him.

[brettmojo]

END OF A DYNASTY???

What the fuck is ESPN talking about? Tonight is the end of the dynasty? The Dynasty ended in 2002 when the Angels bounced us the fuck out of the playoffs early. I fucking can't stand ESPN.

[TheGameHHH]

END OF A DYNASTY???

What the fuck is ESPN talking about? Tonight is the end of the dynasty? The Dynasty ended in 2002 when the Angels bounced us the fuck out of the playoffs early. I fucking can't stand ESPN.

the dynasty ended in 2001 when LuGo broke Mo in game 7.

[HBox]

the dynasty ended in 2001 when LuGo broke Mo in game 7.

Dynasty was over in 1989 after ABC messed with its timeslot one too many times and had to cancel it.

[A.J.]

Dynasty was over in 1989 after ABC messed with its timeslot one too many times and had to cancel it.

Thank you. Someone had to say that.

[Knowledged_one]

Further proof Hank Steinbrenner sucks

And yes the Yankees swept the Orioles to close the stadium, i predicted sweep just by the wrong team

Many people have been impressed with the Dodgers' recent turnaround, one which will likely land Joe Torre's club in the postseason next week. Just don't count Hank Steinbrenner among them. Steinbrenner, the Yankees' co-chairman, ripped Major League Baseball's divisional system in a column in this week's Sporting News, saying that the format allows teams to make the postseason even if their records don't warrant such an honor. "The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not. "This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

[TheGameHHH]

Further proof Hank Steinbrenner sucks

And yes the Yankees swept the Orioles to close the stadium, i predicted sweep just by the wrong team

Many people have been impressed with the Dodgers' recent turnaround, one which will likely land Joe Torre's club in the postseason next week. Just don't count Hank Steinbrenner among them. Steinbrenner, the Yankees' co-chairman, ripped Major League Baseball's divisional system in a column in this week's Sporting News, saying that the format allows teams to make the postseason even if their records don't warrant such an honor. "The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not. "This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

i actually wish i had the power to fire Hank Steinbrenner

[TheMojoPin]

General question to kill time:

Jorge Posada & Bernie Williams don't belong in the HOF. Agree or disagree?

[TheGameHHH]

General question to kill time:

Jorge Posada & Bernie Williams don't belong in the HOF. Agree or disagree?

100% agree, the Yankees should retire their numbers though

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, I think that it's obvious why Big Stein was really going to hand the team over to his son-in-law before he got caught fucking around on his daughter. If you're a Yankees fan, you should probably hope that Hal's the one who really exercises the power, and just lets Hank have an office and say dumb shit occasionally. Or you should probably hope that Big Stein's stuck a poison pill clause in his will like Jack Kent Cooke did with the Redskins that forces the family to sell the team on his death.

Of course, that did lead to Lil' Danny Snyder buying the Redskins, so maybe not that one so much.

[zildjian361]

100% agree, the Yankees should retire their numbers though

Bernie will be in the Hall of Fame and #51 should be retired.:thumbup::king:

[TheGameHHH]

the line-up tonight is almost comical. this should be, hands down, the most boring game of the year.

[cougarjake13]

Further proof Hank Steinbrenner sucks

And yes the Yankees swept the Orioles to close the stadium, i predicted sweep just by the wrong team

Many people have been impressed with the Dodgers' recent turnaround, one which will likely land Joe Torre's club in the postseason next week. Just don't count Hank Steinbrenner among them. Steinbrenner, the Yankees' co-chairman, ripped Major League Baseball's divisional system in a column in this week's Sporting News, saying that the format allows teams to make the postseason even if their records don't warrant such an honor. "The biggest problem is the divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now," Steinbrenner wrote. "Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not. "This is by no means a knock on Torre - let me make that clear-but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."



while i understand hanks position this is the system we have and it isnt going to change

sometimes teams with good records dont make the playoffs and some shitty teams win a division by default

[Tenbatsuzen]

General question to kill time:

Jorge Posada & Bernie Williams don't belong in the HOF. Agree or disagree?

Bernie Williams shouldn't even be sniffing at Cooperstown. Definitely retire the number though.

Posada's a different story. He'd be closer, but not getting in. Doesn't have the power numbers. There aren't a ton of catchers in the HOF, and the next one getting in is Piazza and that'll be it for a while.

[Tenbatsuzen]

the dynasty ended in 2001 when LuGo broke Mo in game 7.

I mean, one of ESPN's OWN FUCKING EMPLOYEES WROTE A BOOK CALLED "THE END OF THE DYNASTY". Jesus Christ.

[cougarjake13]

Bernie Williams shouldn't even be sniffing at Cooperstown. Definitely retire the number though.

Posada's a different story. He'd be closer, but not getting in. Doesn't have the power numbers. There aren't a ton of catchers in the HOF, and the next one getting in is Piazza and that'll be it for a while.

if posada plays 4 more years at posada like numbers will that be enough to get him in ??


currently he's at


1379 hits
221 hrs
883 rbi's
.277 avg

5 all stars


and 4 rings

[Tenbatsuzen]

if posada plays 4 more years at posada like numbers will that be enough to get him in ??


currently he's at


1379 hits
221 hrs
883 rbi's
.277 avg

5 all stars


and 4 rings

He'd need at least 300 home runs and a 280 average. he doesn't have four years of that kind of production left in him.

[cougarjake13]

He'd need at least 300 home runs and a 280 average. he doesn't have four years of that kind of production left in him.

well hes close at the avg



you dont think he can hit 20 homers each yr for the next 4 ??


his career avg is 24 a yr and he's hit at least 20 every year since 2000, cept for 19 in 2005

[Tenbatsuzen]

Gary Carter is the last modern catcher in, and he was .262, 324, 1225.

Piazza's a fucking lock at .308, 427, 1335.

Posada is a very GOOD player. But he's not a Hall of Famer.

[Tenbatsuzen]

well hes close at the avg



you dont think he can hit 20 homers each yr for the next 4 ??


his career avg is 24 a yr and he's hit at least 20 every year since 2000, cept for 19 in 2005

He's 37 years old and coming off major shoulder surgery for a team that may be rebuilding. So no, I don't think he's got 80 HRs left in him.

If he stops catching, maybe, but he's made it clear he wants to catch.

[Doctor Z]

A GRANNY FOR BOBBY! IS GOOD!!!
He's got 4 games to pick up 1 more RBI.

We've now won 10 of our last 11... Good time to go on a tear. :wallbash:

[A.J.]

I have been wanting to know the answer to this for some time and kept forgetting to ask: what is that big white building beyond the right field fence (above the Hess and Bud Light signs)? It's been there forever but I don't know what it is.

http://mikeytherhino.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/yankee-stadium.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

He's 37 years old and coming off major shoulder surgery for a team that may be rebuilding. So no, I don't think he's got 80 HRs left in him.

If he stops catching, maybe, but he's made it clear he wants to catch.

quoted for the truth

[Knowledged_one]

Well, I think that it's obvious why Big Stein was really going to hand the team over to his son-in-law before he got caught fucking around on his daughter. If you're a Yankees fan, you should probably hope that Hal's the one who really exercises the power, and just lets Hank have an office and say dumb shit occasionally. Or you should probably hope that Big Stein's stuck a poison pill clause in his will like Jack Kent Cooke did with the Redskins that forces the family to sell the team on his death.

Of course, that did lead to Lil' Danny Snyder buying the Redskins, so maybe not that one so much.

Trust me the majority of redskins fans are glad that Dan Snyder owns the team

[RingWraith]

I have been wanting to know the answer to this for some time and kept forgetting to ask: what is that big white building beyond the right field fence (above the Hess and Bud Light signs)? It's been there forever but I don't know what it is.

http://mikeytherhino.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/yankee-stadium.jpg

The Courthouse. Unfortunately I have jury duty there next week.

[A.J.]

The Courthouse. Unfortunately I have jury duty there next week.

Ahhh. Thanks!

[TheGameHHH]

historic night tonight, the last time Carl Pavano pitches for the Yankees.

[cougarjake13]

historic night tonight, the last time Carl Pavano pitches for the Yankees.



are you sure ??

[HBox]

historic night tonight, the last time Carl Pavano pitches for the Yankees.

I bet more people are watching than did the last game at Yankee Stadium.

[JPMNICK]

historic night tonight, the last time Carl Pavano pitches for the Yankees.

i will not be shocked if he is back next season for 2-3 million 1 year deal

[TheGameHHH]

are you sure ??

with names like Sabathia, Sheets and Burnett out there in the offseason, im 100% certain.

unless Hippos claims its a lock, then im switching

[TheGameHHH]

i will not be shocked if he is back next season for 2-3 million 1 year deal

im confused here, you're like the 3rd person on this board alone that thinks there's even a chance he'll pitch in the bronx next season. for 4 YEARS and 40 million dollars he's made 26 starts. he's a career .500 pitcher. everybody on the team hates him and he's been beyond injury-prone since he set foot in the bronx. it's clear he doesn't want to pitch for them and almost as clear that they don't want him. why would they even THINK about offering him a deal?

[JPMNICK]

im confused here, you're like the 3rd person on this board alone that thinks there's even a chance he'll pitch in the bronx next season. for 4 YEARS and 40 million dollars he's made 26 starts. he's a career .500 pitcher. everybody on the team hates him and he's been beyond injury-prone since he set foot in the bronx. it's clear he doesn't want to pitch for them and almost as clear that they don't want him. why would they even THINK about offering him a deal?

I think maybe just to have another veteran on the staff. I am not saying I def. think it will happen, I am just saying that it would not be crazy to see it happen. Especially if they do not sign the big pitching names they need to.

[cougarjake13]

with names like Sabathia, Sheets and Burnett out there in the offseason, im 100% certain.

unless Hippos claims its a lock, then im switching



but i doubt they sign all 3

[cougarjake13]

i will not be shocked if he is back next season for 2-3 million 1 year deal

im confused here, you're like the 3rd person on this board alone that thinks there's even a chance he'll pitch in the bronx next season. for 4 YEARS and 40 million dollars he's made 26 starts. he's a career .500 pitcher. everybody on the team hates him and he's been beyond injury-prone since he set foot in the bronx. it's clear he doesn't want to pitch for them and almost as clear that they don't want him. why would they even THINK about offering him a deal?



just cause they offer doesnt mean he'll accept

it'll prob be a low risk 1 yr deal maybe intentionally low so that he wont accept but maybe no one else out there offers any better


so next years rotation will be

wang

pettite and moose would need to re-up, maybe pettite retires

young kids again

[TheGameHHH]

just cause they offer doesnt mean he'll accept

it'll prob be a low risk 1 yr deal maybe intentionally low so that he wont accept but maybe no one else out there offers any better


so next years rotation will be

wang

pettite and moose would need to re-up, maybe pettite retires

young kids again

they dont have to offer him anything......

Sabathia, Wang, Moose, Aceves, Hughes/Joba when they finally do the smart thing.

[RingWraith]

A GRANNY FOR BOBBY! IS GOOD!!!
He's got 4 games to pick up 1 more RBI.

We've now won 10 of our last 11... Good time to go on a tear. :wallbash:


That is annoying to see the Yanks all of a sudden start winning games again. Too little too late.
I was banging my head in the wall too. :wallbash:

[JPMNICK]

even if they did not make the playoffs, but played spoiler to boston this last series it would be at least made the shitty season kind of worth it. but them not making plus boston being in just kills me

[brettmojo]

I think maybe just to have another veteran on the staff. I am not saying I def. think it will happen, I am just saying that it would not be crazy to see it happen. Especially if they do not sign the big pitching names they need to.
Yes. Yes... It would be crazy.

[spoon]

A GRANNY FOR BOBBY! IS GOOD!!!
He's got 4 games to pick up 1 more RBI.

We've now won 10 of our last 11... Good time to go on a tear. :wallbash:

So your whole team now has Arod syndrome!? Nice!

[Knowledged_one]

im confused here, you're like the 3rd person on this board alone that thinks there's even a chance he'll pitch in the bronx next season. for 4 YEARS and 40 million dollars he's made 26 starts. he's a career .500 pitcher. everybody on the team hates him and he's been beyond injury-prone since he set foot in the bronx. it's clear he doesn't want to pitch for them and almost as clear that they don't want him. why would they even THINK about offering him a deal?

Game you are forgetting BDC Yankees postulate #234.8

Any player signed to a one year contract is a bargain and you just have to sign him

see: Hawkins, LaTroy

[Knowledged_one]

an interesting read in regards to the yankees recent draft history from Buster Olney

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=olney_buster&id=3589629&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2

[Doctor Z]

Enjoy your wild card, cocksuckers.

[Doctor Z]

Another year of .300, 20 HR, 100 RBIs from Bobby "Is Good" Abreu... I don't see how they let this guy go.

[Doctor Z]

19-8 in Fenway. I remember the last time we did that...

Maybe this was a re-reversing of the curse.

[JimmieHats]

Enjoy your wild card, cocksuckers.

Thanks, we will. :bye:

[TheGameHHH]

Another year of .300, 20 HR, 100 RBIs from Bobby "Is Good" Abreu... I don't see how they let this guy go.

ive said for a while now that he shoud be re-signed. u cant let that kind of production go. if cahsman stays, abreu stays.

[A.J.]

19-8 in Fenway. I remember the last time we did that...

Maybe this was a re-reversing of the curse.

Yeah, I noticed that too (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1883199&postcount=1435).

[Doctor Z]

And now the Yankee offense is doing to Mussina what they've done all year... Stranding lead-off doubles while he puts up zero's.
He'll leave the game down 1-0.

[cougarjake13]

And now the Yankee offense is doing to Mussina what they've done all year... Stranding lead-off doubles while he puts up zero's.
He'll leave the game down 1-0.

so no chance at 20

[ChrisTheCop]

so no chance at 20

it's a 0-0 game. theyre trying to make it to 5 b4 the rain comes back. Basically first team to score will win the game.
So still a chance for 20....or 19, depending on your viewpoint.

[cougarjake13]

it's a 0-0 game. theyre trying to make it to 5 b4 the rain comes back. Basically first team to score will win the game.
So still a chance for 20....or 19, depending on your viewpoint.

well hes already at 19 right ??


oh i see u mean for him to stay at 19

[ChrisTheCop]

well hes already at 19 right ??


oh i see u mean for him to stay at 19

Actually, I was talking bout DiceK.

[cougarjake13]

Actually, I was talking bout DiceK.

didnt know dice k was pitching


so what is he 18-2 ??

[ChrisTheCop]

didnt know dice k was pitching


so what is he 18-2 ??

yep.

[cougarjake13]

yep.

cool

[FezsAssistant]

Have they mentioned why Moose is facing Dice-K instead of Wakefield?
Is there a greater chance of rain later in the day in Boston?

[Doctor Z]

http://www.leisuregames.com/acatalog/vs_ccg_x-men_logo.jpg

[Doctor Z]

Abreu gets his 100th run scored, and Moose gets a lead.

It's all about individual accolades now, baby!

[ChrisTheCop]

Actually, it's all about mlb obligations and getting these games in.

[Doctor Z]

wtf...
73 pitches through 6 scoreless...
in what could be the last game of his career...
Why are we handing a 3-run lead over to the bullpen?

Watch them give up 3 runs and he gets a no-decision.

[ChrisTheCop]

Whats with that yankees fan club card? I thought Hank was against that kind of thing. Is it new? Hank said the Red Sox Nation card was silly, but now I see the yanks have one...?

[cougarjake13]

wtf...
73 pitches through 6 scoreless...
in what could be the last game of his career...
Why are we handing a 3-run lead over to the bullpen?

Watch them give up 3 runs and he gets a no-decision.



you called it exactly

[Doctor Z]

Hopefully I'm wrong. Phil Coke certainly helped that cause.

[Doctor Z]

Wait, what the-- aren't you a Mets fan? What are you DOING? How are you not GLUED to your television right now?

[Kevin]

Wait, what the-- aren't you a Mets fan? What are you DOING? How are you not GLUED to your television right now?

They are too busy driving to bridges.

[cougarjake13]

Wait, what the-- aren't you a Mets fan? What are you DOING? How are you not GLUED to your television right now?

i am

im multi tasking

[Doctor Z]

You don't multi-task in a situation like this. Inexcusable.

[Doctor Z]

Girardi is on the cusp of owing Mike Mussina a deep and sincere apology.

There's no excuse to take a guy out after 6 with 73 pitches in his last game of the year... What was he saving him for? October? Moose could've finished the fucking game with a pitch count like that.

[Don Stugots]

Girardi is on the cusp of owing Mike Mussina a deep and sincere apology.

There's no excuse to take a guy out after 6 with 73 pitches in his last game of the year... What was he saving him for? October? Moose could've finished the fucking game with a pitch count like that.

what a dick move. yeah, lets take him out because the season is on the line or lets rest him up since game one of the playoffs is in a few days. nice going Joe.

[Doctor Z]

He looks a little young in this picture, but YES has managed to get a live shot of Mussina in the clubhouse.

http://www.jonasclark.com/student_praying.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Girardi is on the cusp of owing Mike Mussina a deep and sincere apology.

There's no excuse to take a guy out after 6 with 73 pitches in his last game of the year... What was he saving him for? October? Moose could've finished the fucking game with a pitch count like that.

I had a thought.

The reason why Girardi put Moose in the Early game instead of the prime time game is that if the bed got shit in the first game, Moose could STILL pitch in the 2nd game for the win.

Maybe. I dunno.

[Don Stugots]

sorry Matty, that is too WWE for me.

[Tenbatsuzen]

sorry Matty, that is too WWE for me.

It is a little WWE, but it was just a thought.

[Doctor Z]

Big insurance runs there. He's 3 outs away.

[ChrisTheCop]

Big insurance runs there. He's 3 outs away.

Pick a side, Doc.

[cougarjake13]

I had a thought.

The reason why Girardi put Moose in the Early game instead of the prime time game is that if the bed got shit in the first game, Moose could STILL pitch in the 2nd game for the win.

Maybe. I dunno.

sorry Matty, that is too WWE for me.



a tad wwe-ish yes


but plausible hell yeh


f you were the mgr wouldnt you try to do it ??

[Don Stugots]

a tad wwe-ish yes


but plausible hell yeh


f you were the mgr wouldnt you try to do it ??

i might do it if it were a home game.

[cougarjake13]

i might do it if it were a home game.

if he was younger maybe just wait til next year


but his career is almost over and may never ever got a shot again

[drjoek]

Congrats Moose

[ChrisTheCop]

Mussina today, Santana yesterday. Bitter sweet days. Bitter sweet days.

Congrats to them both.

[drjoek]

Pap wasn't sharp that can't be good for postseason

[Doctor Z]

20! FINALLY!

Nice to see. Congrats to the Moose.

[cougarjake13]

congrats moose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChrisTheCop]

Pap wasn't sharp that can't be good for postseason

Mariano aint the only one who sucks in non-saves.
Psychologically, I believe, he thinks he exists to save games.
When he's in for any other reason, it doesnt work.

His performance here didnt concern me in the least.

[TheGameHHH]

way to be Moose!!

let me take this time to apologize for doubting you before this year began.

[Doctor Z]

These fans in Fenway really are the mineral ore of suburban white trash.

[brettmojo]

ROOOBBBBBIIIEEE CANNNOOOOO, WHATDAYYA' KNOOOWWW!!!!

Tie game. :D

[Fallon]

These fans in Fenway really are the mineral ore of suburban white trash.

What happened?

[Doctor Z]

Nothing new.

[brettmojo]

What happened?
They showed up.

[drjoek]

Is this the perfect way to end this season extra innings in a game that means absolutly nothing.

[JPMNICK]

i am really happy for Mussina in another wise shitty season. Nice to see him finally get 20, although I am sure he would trade it in a second for a ring

[Doctor Z]

Welp.... THAT'S that.

[cougarjake13]

congrats moose

[JerseyRich]

Is it too late to buy a Cubs cap?

[brettmojo]

Is it too late to buy a Cubs cap?
I already got a Dodger one.

[JerseyRich]

I already got a Dodger one.

Fag.

[brettmojo]

Fag.
Party of Bush supporter.

[JerseyRich]

Party of Bush supporter.

Your words cut me deep.

Take your Dodger cap and poop in it.

[JPMNICK]

Cashman gets 3 more years

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080930/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_yankees_cashman_stays_1

[Kevin]

Cashman gets 3 more years

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080930/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_yankees_cashman_stays_1

I am very meh on Cashman. But this seems like Hank is going to be more in the back burner and Hal is going to be the main guy here. And that is more important for me.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Me and Al Davis see that happening.

[TheGameHHH]

i couldn't be happier about Cashman re-signing, it's the correct move on several fronts. he gets at least 2 full years of support from me. you can't build a champion overnight.

[Doctor Z]

Three more years of horrendous pitching-related decisions.

[Doctor Z]

Just a brief track-record of pitcher's acquired on Cashman's watch:

* Jeff Weaver
* Randy Johnson
* Jaret Wright
* Javier Vasquez
* Kevin Brown
* Carl Pavano
* Octavio Dotel
* Kei Igawa
* Kyle Farnsworth
* LaTroy Hawkins

Pitcher's we passed on/let go of:
* Ted Lilly
* John Lieber
* Daisuke Matsuzaka
* JOHAN SANTANA :wallbash:

Please refresh my memory if I'm leaving anyone out.

[cougarjake13]

Just a brief track-record of pitcher's acquired on Cashman's watch:

* Jeff Weaver
* Randy Johnson
* Jaret Wright
* Javier Vasquez
* Kevin Brown
* Carl Pavano
* Octavio Dotel
* Kei Igawa
* Kyle Farnsworth
* LaTroy Hawkins

Pitcher's we passed on/let go of:
* Ted Lilly
* John Lieber
* Daisuke Matsuzaka
* JOHAN SANTANA :wallbash:

Please refresh my memory if I'm leaving anyone out.


not to nit pick but i dont think yo ucan count dice k in that equation


no one in hell thought the sawx would bid 51 million
plus it wasnt a situation that cash declined to make a free agent offer or part with players in a trade

[TheGameHHH]

Just a brief track-record of pitcher's acquired on Cashman's watch:

* Jeff Weaver
* Randy Johnson
* Jaret Wright
* Javier Vasquez
* Kevin Brown
* Carl Pavano
* Octavio Dotel
* Kei Igawa
* Kyle Farnsworth
* LaTroy Hawkins

Pitcher's we passed on/let go of:
* Ted Lilly
* John Lieber
* Daisuke Matsuzaka
* JOHAN SANTANA :wallbash:

Please refresh my memory if I'm leaving anyone out.

why are u blaming all of that on Cash? i know for a fact he didnt want the Big U-Not. That was George's demand. and if u want a GM to be 100% correct on every decision he makes all i can say is good luck finding that guy.

[Kevin]

not to nit pick but i dont think yo ucan count dice k in that equation


no one in hell thought the sawx would bid 51 million
plus it wasnt a situation that cash declined to make a free agent offer or part with players in a trade

Yea, Dice K can't be counted. He made a pretty good bid for him.

The rest..

Yea....

[brettmojo]

Yeah the bullpen decisions he's made are the worst of all. So much more worse than the starters.

[K.C.]

Don't forget the Cory Lidle debacle.

Cashman should have known he'd fly a helicopter into the side of a building.

[HBox]

Don't forget the Cory Lidle debacle.

Cashman should have known he'd fly a helicopter into the side of a building.

It was a Cirrus small plane you fool! Helicopter faggots aren't allowed to don pinstripes.

[brettmojo]

Well, fuck getting Sheets. He's injured. He won't even play in the playoffs. Scratch that off the wishlist.

[Doctor Z]

POSS-IBILI-TIES!!!
http://blogs.southflorida.com/citylink_joaniecox/taylor_hicks2.jpg

[cougarjake13]

is it almost a guarantee that sabathia becomes a yankee ???

[FunkyDrummer]

LINK (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081014&content_id=3619800&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy&partnerId=rss_nyy)

10/14/08 1:05 PM ET
Meacham won't be back in 2009
Former Yankee was third-base coach; Monteleone dismissed

By Bryan Hoch / MLB.com
The Yankees will not renew the contract of third-base coach Bobby Meacham, the club announced on Tuesday.

General manager Brian Cashman announced the decision through director of media relations Jason Zillo. The organization has not named an immediate replacement. The Yankees are holding pro scouting meetings in New York, which opened on Sunday and will continue into the middle of the week.

Meacham was one of two original selections that manager Joe Girardi made for his coaching staff upon being named the Yankees' manager last November. Meacham replaced Larry Bowa, who followed former manager Joe Torre to the Dodgers.

A former Major League infielder who played six seasons with the Yankees from 1983-88, Meacham was also Girardi's third-base coach with the Marlins in 2006. Bullpen coach Mike Harkey was also tabbed by Girardi for the staff and is expected to remain for the 2009 season.

In addition, special pitching instructor Rich Monteleone was dismissed by the club. A former first-round pick of the Tigers who pitched 10 seasons in the big leagues with the Mariners, Angels, Yankees and Giants, Monteleone had been a Yankees instructor for the past four seasons after serving as a bullpen coach from 2002-04.

Hitting coach Kevin Long is the only current coach with a contract for next season, as he enters the second year of a three-year deal worth approximately $1 million. Bench coach Rob Thomson, first-base coach Tony Pena and pitching coach Dave Eiland are all expected to return.

Bryan Hoch is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

[TheGameHHH]

miss "Send 'em home" Sojo

[HBox]

What a fitting way to start the offseason. (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27257894/)

New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain was arrested for allegedly driving under the influence, speeding and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle.

Nebraska State Patrol spokeswoman Deborah Collins said Chamberlain was stopped for speeding on U.S. 77 near his hometown of Lincoln at about 1 a.m. Saturday.

[brettmojo]

What a fitting way to start the offseason. (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27257894/)
Great. Just fucking great.

[TheGameHHH]

oh Joba, you so silly

[lleeder]

I blame Ryan Ward.

[TheMojoPin]

Come on...what else is he gonna do in Nebraska?

[lleeder]

Come on...what else is he gonna do in Nebraska?

Wheelchair race his dad.

[TheMojoPin]

Go on a murder spree with his underaged girlfriend.

[TheGameHHH]

Wheelchair race his dad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........wow

[furie]

Giambi's out? is this true?

[Jujubees2]

Giambi's out? is this true?

It's true.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3682950

[Sinestro]

Sale at Modell's!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

article says he may go back to oakland

i can see that only if he takes a frank thomas special

[TheGameHHH]

article says he may go back to oakland

i can see that only if he takes a frank thomas special

im pretty sure he's going back there, it makes sense since his strength and conditioning coach just got hired back there.

[Doctor Z]

Congrats Moose. 7th Gold Glove. (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081106&content_id=3667588&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

20 wins and a Gold Glove. Perfect time to say goodbye.

[TheGameHHH]

Congrats Moose. 7th Gold Glove. (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081106&content_id=3667588&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

20 wins and a Gold Glove. Perfect time to say goodbye.

yea but thats a bullshit gold glove. his stats were no different this year then last, all of a sudden winning 20 games makes him a better fielder? cmon.

all im sayin is give it to somebody more deserving

[cougarjake13]

Congrats Moose. 7th Gold Glove. (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081106&content_id=3667588&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

20 wins and a Gold Glove. Perfect time to say goodbye.



ahh so he did get 20

[Doctor Z]

Listening to Girardi on the FAN... Some coaching staff changes:

* Bobby Meacham is out.
* Rob Thomson moving from bench coach to 3rd base.
* Tony Pena moving from 1st base to bench coach.
* Mick Kelleher (last year's defensive coordinator) will be taking over 1st base.

[Doctor Z]

Poor Willie Randolph... new bench coach of the Milwaukee Brewers.

yeouch...

[TheGameHHH]

I'm heatbroken.....the Yankees fired their batting practice pitcher.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm heatbroken......


Call PSE&G homo.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Poor Willie Randolph... new bench coach of the Milwaukee Brewers.

yeouch...

Why would he take that job? Did his Mets contract say that he would still get paid if he took another job but WASN'T a manager?

[epo]

Why would he take that job? Did his Mets contract say that he would still get paid if he took another job but WASN'T a manager?

Why wouldn't he take that job? It could be the best way to rehabilitate his image and get himself another managerial job.

[TheGameHHH]

Call PSE&G homo.

FPL son, i dont fuck with PSE&G

[cougarjake13]

Why wouldn't he take that job? It could be the best way to rehabilitate his image and get himself another managerial job.

exactly


he wasnt gonna get another mgr gig by sitting on his ass watching the games on his couch at home

[Tenbatsuzen]

exactly


he wasnt gonna get another mgr gig by sitting on his ass watching the games on his couch at home

http://www.yankeesdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/joegirardi.jpg

"What?"


Maybe the clause in Willie's contract is that he doesn't get paid if he takes another MANAGERIAL job, but still gets paid if he takes another coaching position.

[epo]

http://www.yankeesdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/joegirardi.jpg

"What?"


Maybe the clause in Willie's contract is that he doesn't get paid if he takes another MANAGERIAL job, but still gets paid if he takes another coaching position.

You can't seriously be comparing the situations of Girardi & Randolph.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You can't seriously be comparing the situations of Girardi & Randolph.

Girardi and Randolph were both fired under questionable circumstances.

Girardi took the following season off and worked basically as a YES talking head. He indicated the only two managing jobs he was interested in were the cubs or the Yankees.

I was only explaining that taking a season off - especially if you're getting paid for it - isn't necessarily an unheard of thing.

Willie had a job waiting for him in the Yankees organization if he wanted it. My only question is, does taking the Milwaukee bench job end his current Mets payout.

[epo]

Girardi and Randolph were both fired under questionable circumstances.

Girardi took the following season off and worked basically as a YES talking head. He indicated the only two managing jobs he was interested in were the cubs or the Yankees.

I was only explaining that taking a season off - especially if you're getting paid for it - isn't necessarily an unheard of thing.

Willie had a job waiting for him in the Yankees organization if he wanted it. My only question is, does taking the Milwaukee bench job end his current Mets payout.

I'm with you that alot of people take time off after losing a job. I just didn't see any realistic Joe/Willie comparison due to the situations.

Joe had the faith of "baseball minds", while Willie may have lost it. If that's the case then Joe is afforded the ability to do TV...whereas Willie will need to rebuild his reputation a bit. And from Willie's quotes about the bench coach job, I think he knows that (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/34147994.html):

“If I get a job that puts me in the manager’s seat at any time during my tenure with the team, I could get out of (the Brewers’ job),” said Randolph. “Eventually, I do want to get back to managing. But my main focus now is to be the best bench coach I can be and help this organization.

“I really didn’t want to wait around. I thought it was best to make this move. A lot of things fit for me (with Milwaukee) right now. I feel working with this staff, I could make an impact.”

Its obvious that Willie wants back into the manager's chair and this is his best path. As for the money, I really don't care and don't understand the fascination of others about it either.

[Doctor Z]

Wow... Demaso Marte was apparently SO FUCKING AMAZING last year that he was worth signing to a 3-year contract. Fucking terrific. THANK GOD FOR BRIAN CASHMAN.

[TheGameHHH]

Wow... Demaso Marte was apparently SO FUCKING AMAZING last year that he was worth signing to a 3-year contract. Fucking terrific. THANK GOD FOR BRIAN CASHMAN.

find another decent lefty releiver on the market, i dare you.

[NYHCmikeX]

find another decent lefty releiver on the market, i dare you.

Fuentes.

But your point is made, and accurate, cause the Yanks had no chance of getting him. Maybe Marte being here all year will help him.

[NYHCmikeX]

Yankees acquire Nick Swisher (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3700869)

We also got Kanekoa Texeira (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Kanekoa%20Texeira&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=444427)

[HBox]

Yankees acquire Nick Swisher (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3700869)

We also got Kanekoa Texeira (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Kanekoa%20Texeira&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=444427)

They re-signed Cashman for this shit?!

[FezsAssistant]

I never liked Betemit.

[TheGameHHH]

They re-signed Cashman for this shit?!

Right now I think he's one for two. I like the Marte signing and HATE the Swisher trade. He just doesn't bring anything offensively to the table besides HRs and they have enough power on the team for that. I don't know, maybe he'll raise his average this season and I'll start to like him but truthfully this move is kind of dull to me.

[FezsAssistant]

Fuentes.

But your point is made, and accurate, cause the Yanks had no chance of getting him. Maybe Marte being here all year will help him.

Marte's ok, but I would rather have the 1 or 2 draft picks as the result of his leaving.
The Yankees did pretty well with trying young guys in the bullpen last year (something Torre refused to do).

[TheGameHHH]

Marte's ok, but I would rather have the 1 or 2 draft picks as the result of his leaving.
The Yankees did pretty well with trying young guys in the bullpen last year (something Torre refused to do).

Again its not about bullpen guys, its about LEFTY bullpen guys. The only other one they had was Phil Coke (aka Superman) who was outstanding but his use needs to be put in perspective. He was thrown into a lot of garbage games in September when the Yanks were fading and many of the games didn't mean anything. We have yet to see how he holds up over a 162 game season. Also, there are possible plans for Coke to be used as a starter down line so if he is then there's literally no lefty in the pen outside of Marte.

[cougarjake13]

swisher is a switch hitter so that short porch in right could do him wonders

[The Silencer]

Swisher is better than Wilson Betemit...Any news on Peavy?

[cougarjake13]

Swisher is better than Wilson Betemit...Any news on Peavy?



looks like the cubs are in the mix

[Big_Joe]

I feel like swisher is an upgrade over Giambi but I don't really like this deal. I guess now yankees will have to pick up a utility infielder. Swisher has great upside but I just don't like him. Hopefully he'll change my mind this season.

[TheMojoPin]

Yankees acquire Nick Swisher (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3700869)

We also got Kanekoa Texeira (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Kanekoa%20Texeira&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=444427)

Maybe Cashman was confused by their last names and thought he was stealing much better players.

[TheMojoPin]

looks like the cubs are in the mix

It's basically the Braves' deal if Peavy accepts a trade to them, though the Cubs are the runner up by apparently being the team that Peavy prefers.

[TheGameHHH]

oh baby, 6 years and over 140 million to Sabathia.........he's gotta accept this right?

[TheMojoPin]

oh baby, 6 years and over 140 million to Sabathia.........he's gotta accept this right?

The Yanks aren't fucking around. I can't imagine anyone will beat that money-wise. Unless he's determined to go out west, stay in the NL, or REALLY liked his time with the Brewers, what are the odds he's not a Yankee?

I was thinking this was too big, even for the Yanks and their giant bank, but then I did some checking...

Off the books:
1) Giambi $22 million
2) Abreu $16 million
3) Mussina $11 million
4) Pavano $11 million
5) Farnsy $5.5million
6) Pettitte $16 million
= $81.5 million

They gots lotsa cash to spend even without expanding the payroll.

[TheGameHHH]

The Yanks aren't fucking around. I can't imagine anyone will beat that money-wise. Unless he's determined to go out west, stay in the NL, or REALLY liked his time with the Brewers, what are the odds he's not a Yankee?

I was thinking this was too big, even for the Yanks and their giant bank, but then I did some checking...

Off the books:
1) Giambi $22 million
2) Abreu $16 million
3) Mussina $11 million
4) Pavano $11 million
5) Farnsy $5.5million
6) Pettitte $16 million
= $81.5 million

They gots lotsa cash to spend even without expanding the payroll.

which is why the spending doesnt look like its going to stop with Sabathia. They are apparently getting ready to also make offers to Burnett and Lowe.

[TheMojoPin]

which is why the spending doesnt look like its going to stop with Sabathia. They are apparently getting ready to also make offers to Burnett and Lowe.

Might as well. They still have almost $60 million to spend in money from expiring contracts even if Sabathia signs. That's 3-4 more superstars right there.

[Knowledged_one]

I miss bdc

[HBox]

I hope this interest in AJ Burnett isn't true. The last time they signed a decent pitcher who only had one full healthy season it was Carl Pavano.

Maybe I should look on the bright side. It couldn't possibly be work out worse than that did, right?

[cougarjake13]

I hope this interest in AJ Burnett isn't true. The last time they signed a decent pitcher who only had one full healthy season it was Carl Pavano.

Maybe I should look on the bright side. It couldn't possibly be work out worse than that did, right?



and burnett is also a former marlin, for whatever thats worth, which is nothing

[Doctor Z]

find another decent lefty releiver on the market, i dare you.

Phil Coke.

Bottom line is, Marte's decent. But a 3 year commitment? This could be another Farnsworth deal that we'll be counting down the days to the end of.

[TheGameHHH]

Phil Coke.

Bottom line is, Marte's decent. But a 3 year commitment? This could be another Farnsworth deal that we'll be counting down the days to the end of.

Read my post above, theres a lot of interest within the organization to possibly make Coke a starter. If that happens, once again it leaves you with no lefty bullpen man.

plus as i said above we know next to nothing about Coke. I loved what he did last year but lets be honest, it was garbage duty. I need to see him do what he did last season over 162 games in order to have full faith in him.

[brettmojo]

Please... No A.J. Burnett. He only pitches well AGAINST the Yankees.

I'm not that hot on Sabathia either. Them feeling like they have to make that move is just really over reactionary. I hope he sticks to wanting to play on the West Coast but I seriously doubt he'd turn down a blank paycheck. Don't get me wrong though I wouldn't mind getting him but for the organization to just bend over and drop trow for the fucking guy is embarrasing.

I don't know why they are having sudden amnesia about how decimated by injury the team was which is what really contributed to their awful season. That stacked on top of a bunch of abysmal years by half the roster. Jeter had an awful 1st half... But no, just fucking throw money at it. Just ignore the real problems with the personnel you already have. There isn't much they can do about Arod but they really need to have a sit down with Cano this off season or when spring training comes around and have a talk with him about whether or not he wants to be a Yankee or not. His attitude is was an issue last year and he needs to decide now if he's gonna' be a part of this team's future. Same thing needs to be done with Kennedy, that is if they don't trade either one of both of them.

Pettitte fell apart the 2nd half, don't care if the returns. Mussina I'd welcome back. I think he has the chance to be one of those guys who can pitch right into his mid 40's with effectiveness. He earned another year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they landed Manny. But after what he said about Boston I don't know if he'd want to do that all over again in NY.

I'd like to see Krod, Manny, Sabathia. Maybe a Teixera... I'd prefer Burrell. I doubt Krod would come to NY unless he was closing immediately though, even if he was promised the job after this upcoming season.

[cougarjake13]

I'd like to see Krod, Manny, Sabathia. Maybe a Teixera... I'd prefer Burrell. I doubt Krod would come to NY unless he was closing immediately though, even if he was promised the job after this upcoming season.



wait til spoon reads this

[Doctor Z]

.MOOSE RETIRES 30 WINS SHORT OF THE HALL OF FAME! SON OF A BITCH!

[brettmojo]

.MOOSE RETIRES 30 WINS SHORT OF THE HALL OF FAME! SON OF A BITCH!
Dummy. He definitely had a couple of 15 win seasons left.

[Doctor Z]

George is OFFICIALLY done as Boss. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spboss1121,0,3443776.story)

And he has placed Hal, NOT HANK (Thank Jesus), at the head of the organization.

[K.C.]

George is OFFICIALLY done as Boss. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spboss1121,0,3443776.story)

And he has placed Hal, NOT HANK (Thank Jesus), at the head of the organization.

Hank is going to give a 30 part interview to the Post, explaining why he's more qualified than his brother, and that this is an outrage.

[lleeder]

George is OFFICIALLY done as Boss. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spboss1121,0,3443776.story)
I wish Springsteen would have a similar press release.

[Doctor Z]

I wish Springsteen would have a similar press release.

Don't we all...

Dont. We. All.

[cougarjake13]

.MOOSE RETIRES 30 WINS SHORT OF THE HALL OF FAME! SON OF A BITCH!

Dummy. He definitely had a couple of 15 win seasons left.

giambi gone
mussina gone


the 2001 curse is over

[cougarjake13]

watching pti the other day they briefly mentioned that bernie williams isnt fully retired

[NYHCmikeX]

watching pti the other day they briefly mentioned that bernie williams isnt fully retired

Here's the article that started this stir. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spbernie195933362nov19,0,1716737.story?track=rss)

He has a movie coming out soon, so I think they just want his name back out there.

[cougarjake13]

Here's the article that started this stir. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spbernie195933362nov19,0,1716737.story?track=rss)

He has a movie coming out soon, so I think they just want his name back out there.

ahh gay

[RingWraith]

George is OFFICIALLY done as Boss. (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spboss1121,0,3443776.story)

And he has placed Hal, NOT HANK (Thank Jesus), at the head of the organization.

So I guess Hal is the "Michael Corleone" of the Yankees and Hank is now "Fredo" and will complain that he was "stepped over!"

[brettmojo]

WINTER BALL UPDATE

Dominican Winter League

LHP Wilkins Arias: Arias has relieved in 13 games for Las Aguilas Cibeanas and is 0-1 with a 15.95 ERA. He has allowed 13 earned runs and 12 hits in 7 1/3 innings, walking seven and striking out 10.

OF Melky Cabrera: Cabrera has 13 hits in his first 38 at-bats (.342) for Las Aguilas Cibeanas, having played 10 games. The 23-year-old outfielder -- New York's Opening Day center fielder in 2008 -- has two doubles, six runs scored and five RBIs, plus a stolen base.

RHP Oneli Perez: A June waiver-claim acquisition from the Indians, Perez ranks third in the DWL with six saves and has a 4.05 ERA in 14 games for Tigres del Licey. He has allowed six earned runs and 15 hits in 13 1/3 innings, walking seven and striking out 14.

RHP Amaury Sanit: Sanit has a 5.19 ERA in seven relief appearances for Tigres del Licey, allowing five runs on eight hits in 7 2/3 innings. He has walked three and struck out seven.

Puerto Rican Winter League

RHP Ian Kennedy: Playing for Los Indios de Mayaguez, New York's No. 1 Draft selection in 2006 started and recorded a win in his last start on Sunday at Los Lobos de Arecibo, throwing a complete-game shutout, striking out seven and scattering three hits and a walk. It marked Kennedy's first professional complete game (he threw eight innings with the Tampa Yankees on May 2, 2007). He has not allowed a run in three of his five starts this winter, faring 2-1 with a 1.57 ERA.

RHP Jonathan Albaladejo: Returning from a right elbow injury, Albaladejo has not allowed a run in 7 2/3 innings with Los Indios de Mayaguez, recording five saves in five chances. He has given up four hits and a walk, with four strikeouts and a wild pitch.

Venezuelan Winter League

C Francisco Cervelli: New York's most big league-ready catching prospect, Cervelli is hitting .257 (9-for-35) with a home run in 16 games for Cardenales de Lara. Cervelli played 21 games at Double-A Trenton before making it into three games with the Yankees in September.

IF Reegie Corona: Playing for Navegantes del Magallanes, Corona is batting .268 (15-for-56) with 10 runs scored, five doubles, one homer and nine RBIs in 26 games. He played 129 games at Trenton, hitting .274 with three homers and 39 RBIs.

IF Edwar Gonzalez: Through 15 games for Cardenales de Lara, Gonzalez is batting .324 (11-for-34) with four runs scored, one triple, one home run and five RBIs.

IF Carlos Mendoza: Mendoza has four hits in 11 at-bats (.364) for Cardenales de Lara, having appeared in 16 games and logging an RBI and walk, striking out four times.

LHP Edgar Soto: Pitching for Aguilas del Zulia, Soto allowed five runs in one inning of work, a 45.00 ERA.



Mexican Pacific League

OF Justin Christian: After making his big league debut in 2008 with New York, Christian is hitting .294 (42-for-143) through 35 games for Caneros de Los Mochis. Christian has three homers and 17 RBIs, walking 13 times and striking out 21. He is tied for first in the MPL with 12 stolen bases.

INF Walter Ibarra: Through 29 games, Ibarra is batting .203 (14-for-69) with two RBIs and three runs scored for Naranjeros de Hermosillo.

INF Ramiro Pena: Pena is batting .250 (13-for-52) with four runs scored, two doubles, one homer and six RBIs in 16 games for Tomateros de Culiacan.

[TheGameHHH]

so.....who else wants to join me in welcoming Carsten Charles Sabathia to the boogie down Bronx?

[NYHCmikeX]

Welcome to the Bronx, CC. Where your sideways hat will fit the fashion, as long as he doesnt leave the reflective sticker on it. I hate that.

[Snoogans]

he is so excited to be here he demanded an opt out clause and 60 mill more then any other team

[NYHCmikeX]

I think the opt out is good for us. I dont really give a shit whether he wants to be here, he is gonna be in the pinstripes and when they put the ball in his hand you know he is gonna give it everything he's got. The guy is a gamer. Plus, if he succeeds here, you know he'll be loved and end up staying. If he chokes, he'll get booed and opt out, in which case, fuck him, who wants a choker? NY state taxes are also by FAR the highest in the country (I'm told) and for CC to live comfortably in Manhatten would cost more than to live comfortably in Cali (not 160 million, but you get what i mean). Plus, there's no salary cap and its not my money, so what the fuck do I care how much he gets paid. We could sign Manny,Tex and either Lowe/Sheets or Pettite and still be under last season's payroll.

[cougarjake13]

yanks reach preliminary agreement with aj burnett


Yanks,-Burnett-reach-5-year,-$82.5M-deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8932446/Sources:-Yanks,-Burnett-reach-5-year,-$82.5M-deal)

[HBox]

boooooooooooooooo

[brettmojo]

boooooooooooooooo
x2.

[PD]

yanks reach preliminary agreement with aj burnett


Yanks,-Burnett-reach-5-year,-$82.5M-deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8932446/Sources:-Yanks,-Burnett-reach-5-year,-$82.5M-deal)

did Hank learn nothing from Carl Pavano??

(I think Burnett has talent, but Toronto has said they would never guarantee him 5 yrs)

side note: I'm listening now to XM MLB, and its nice to hear Jody MacDonald on with Rob Dibble

[Kevin]

x2.

X1000000000

[foodcourtdruide]

I was hoping the Braves would get him. I really don't undertand why you'd give so much money to Burnett.

[PD]

I do think that IF HEALTHY
CC/Wang/Burnett/Joba is a force.

I just think that 5 years for Burnett is awful.

[foodcourtdruide]

I do think that IF HEALTHY
CC/Wang/Burnett/Joba is a force.

I just think that 5 years for Burnett is awful.

I think CC/Wang will be awesome. Burnett is a solid #3 and Joba is going to be a question mark.

[cougarjake13]

has joba even shown he's anything other than a great 8th inning guy ??

[Dan 'Hampton]

has joba even shown he's anything other than a great 8th inning guy ??

True but now he's only the second fattest pitcher on the staff.

[Kevin]

True but now he's only the second fattest pitcher on the staff.

Beckett is not so svelte for you fella's either