2009 New York Yankees Season Discussion

[TheGameHHH]

The Magic is done in the old place, NEW MAGIC IN THE NEW ONE!

PERFECT TIMING On the house that Arod built.


Unclutchly!

dollars to doughnuts in the bottom of the 9th of a tie game next season an upper level of seats just collapses.

[Kevin]

dollars to doughnuts in the bottom of the 9th of a tie game next season an upper level of seats just collapses.

Or just after the tear down the old Yankee stadium.

[TheMojoPin]

Odds that the Yankees lose both the final game in the old stadium and the first game in the new stadium?

[brettmojo]

[boston fan]HAHA! YA' SEE! TOTALLY SINCE THAT FACKAAN DUUUUDDDEE BURIED THAT JERSAY AT THE NEW STAADIUM MAAANN!!! GGAAAAHH SAAAWWWXXXX!!![/boston fan]

[Kevin]

Two Mojo's in one site? Can it handle it?

[TheMojoPin]

He's Brett.

I'm Mojo.

[Tenbatsuzen]

dollars to doughnuts in the bottom of the 9th of a tie game next season an upper level of seats just collapses.

With them rushing to finish the job on Rutgers' stadium, it'll probably happen there first.

[ChrisTheCop]

[boston fan]HAHA! YA' SEE! TOTALLY SINCE THAT FACKAAN DUUUUDDDEE BURIED THAT JERSAY AT THE NEW STAADIUM MAAANN!!! GGAAAAHH SAAAWWWXXXX!!![/boston fan]

That looked like Dave's impressions sound.




Hey, I'm only in here cuz I heard someone was selling donuts for a dollar.

[TheGameHHH]

That looked like Dave's impressions sound.




Hey, I'm only in here cuz I heard someone was selling donuts for a dollar.

shop's closed tonight, doughnuts are $2 tomorrow (sorry, inflation). you missed it man.

[ChrisTheCop]

Dr Z was right about this place.:sad:

[Knowledged_one]

He's Brett.

I'm Mojo.

No he's BDC v2.0

[A.J.]

Hey, I'm only in here cuz I heard someone was selling donuts for a dollar.

http://files.blog-city.com/files/aa/31561/p/f/wiggum.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

http://files.blog-city.com/files/aa/31561/p/f/wiggum.jpg

Wiggum: Put out an APB on a Uosdwis R. Dewoh. Uh, better start with Greektown.
Friday: That's "Homer J. Simpson", Chief. You're reading it upside down.
Wiggum: Uh, cancel that APB. But, uh, bring back some of them, uh, gyros.
Friday: Uh, Chief? You're talking into your wallet.

[Kevin]

He's Brett.

I'm Mojo.

Two Bretts in one message board?

Can it handle it?

[Kevin]

No he's BDC v2.0

Who is his holy grail of blogs?

[Knowledged_one]

Who is his holy grail of blogs?

Aeter Pbraham

[TheGameHHH]

Two Bretts in one message board?

Can it handle it?

its the greatest name ever, few can revel in its awesomeness

[Knowledged_one]

uh oh, the orange and black machine is about to roll over some pinstripes

pavano is going down

down down down

[Kevin]

uh oh, the orange and black machine is about to roll over some pinstripes

pavano is going down

down down down


the winter is going to be terrible for you beacuse your team will be the team that jump started the Yankees towards a historic CHAMPIONSHIP RUN!!!

[brettmojo]

No he's BDC v2.0
...

[JPMNICK]

they need to sweep this series in the worst way, and then at least 2-3 vs boston to have any hope. 6 weeks left in the season, this is a massive hole they are in.

[Kevin]

...

BDC V 1.0 Is a legend that will forever live in our hearts and minds.

[Kevin]

BrettMojo..

I am confused.. Are you a Yankee fan or Yankee hater..

[brettmojo]

BrettMojo..

I am confused.. Are you a Yankee fan or Yankee hater..
I am a fan... But I'm hating them right now.

[TheGameHHH]

BrettMojo..

I am confused.. Are you a Yankee fan or Yankee hater..

He keeps confusing me cause i think its some sort of wild half-breed of me and Mojo that im not aware of. like he half posses my brain and the other half is filled with great A-Rod stats.

[TheGameHHH]

I am a fan... But I'm hating them right now.

thats all of us right about now, so welcome aboard. can we call you "New BDC" anyway? just for fun?

[JPMNICK]

thats all of us right about now, so welcome aboard. can we call you "New BDC" anyway? just for fun?

you going to chase him away to?

[TheGameHHH]

you going to chase him away to?

i did none of that, seriously. i debated with him from time to time but it was always strictly baseball talk. we actually agreed on a few things. blame the chasing away on the likes of spoon and snoogans.

[Kevin]

man has Arod and Giambi MURDERED the Yanks this year. I am so glad Giambi is gone after this year. Girardi is no better than Torre. Everybody knows someone needs to hit between these two bums.

[Doctor Z]

Why the fuck is Mussina terrified of the Orioles? I think it's a guilt complex.

Enjoy another 19-win season Moose.

[TheGameHHH]

man has Arod and Giambi MURDERED the Yanks this year. I am so glad Giambi is gone after this year. Girardi is no better than Torre. Everybody knows someone needs to hit between these two bums.

im kinda happy you finally admitted that. earlier today my roommate and i were discussing if we think he's better. right now, aside from better bullpen management, we can't think of anything he's done thats better than Joe. Why constantly run Abreu with A-Rod up? Why bunt Jeter in the second inning all the time? Why not have a consistent line-up?

[Kevin]

im kinda happy you finally admitted that. earlier today my roommate and i were discussing if we think he's better. right now, aside from better bullpen management, we can't think of anything he's done thats better than Joe. Why constantly run Abreu with A-Rod up? Why bunt Jeter in the second inning all the time? Why not have a consistent line-up?


And i dont care about damons hitting. His D is costing us games.

[TheGameHHH]

And i dont care about damons hitting. His D is costing us games.

agreed, but thats a product of Melky sucking balls and Matsui coming back as well. so its not like you can play gardner in center everyday and lose damon or matsuis bat.

[Kevin]

At least sit him for d late in the game. Because he cant get any ball not hit right at him.

[Doctor Z]

I think I actually heard Giambi screaming "I HATE WINNING!" as he swung at that pitch and popped it up.

[TheGameHHH]

At least sit him for d late in the game. Because he cant get any ball not hit right at him.

late in the game makes perfect sense and i agree. u just cant have him sit daily.

i cant believe they actually tied this

EDIT: Took the lead, way to be X

[Kevin]

I think I actually heard Giambi screaming "I HATE WINNING!" as he swung at that pitch and popped it up.

Girardi really needs to move him down in the order.


A: WTF was Jose swinging at.
B: That call previous to that pitch that Buckner called a strike was one of the worst ball strike calls i have ever seen.

[Kevin]

late in the game makes perfect sense and i agree. u just cant have him sit daily.

i cant believe they actually tied this

EDIT: Took the lead, way to be X

Like now. defense right now is much more important than Offense, with a lead. Put in Gardner for Damon.

[Doctor Z]

Looks like they're gonna let Damon lead off here, and they'll probably bring Gardner in for the 9th.

And yeah, that 3-2 pitch to Molina was ball 4. Not even close. Terrible call.

[brettmojo]

A: WTF was Jose swinging at.

I'd imagine when he swings he always sees a cheeseburger.

He keeps confusing me cause i think its some sort of wild half-breed of me and Mojo that im not aware of. like he half posses my brain and the other half is filled with great A-Rod stats.

I've defending Arod since he joined the team against the people saying he's a cancer and whatever... When he bailed on the homerun derby this year that was the final straw for me. Indefensible.

thats all of us right about now, so welcome aboard. can we call you "New BDC" anyway? just for fun?
I have no reference for it so meh...

[Doctor Z]

Can we just have Abreu hit every spot in the order? Is that allowed?

[Kevin]

Can we just have Abreu hit every spot in the order? Is that allowed?

Him and Nady.

[TheGameHHH]

I have no reference for it so meh...

whatever you say New BDC

[Doctor Z]

SEE?! THAT'S the risk you run when you take Giambi's bat out of the lineup for defense!

[brettmojo]

Cody who?

[Kevin]

Nice work by Ransom and Xavier 'i am much better than Jason Bay' Nady.

And you KNOW Giambi was popping up there.

[Doctor Z]

.RANSOM?! HE RAN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BASES!

...

RECTOR?! DAMN NEAR KILLED 'ER!

:flush:

[brettmojo]

And you KNOW Giambi was striking out there.
Fixed for accuracy.

[Kevin]

.RANSOM?! HE RAN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BASES!

...

RECTOR?! DAMN NEAR KILLED 'ER!

:flush:

Get out.





























Just go.

[Kevin]

Fixed for accuracy.

Mostly likely, yea.

[BoondockSaint]

Moooooooooooooseeeeeeeeeeez

Pavaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnooooooooooooo ooooo

[RingWraith]

Right now, Nady should be batting behind A-rod. I don't care about righty, righty crap. Or at least put Matsui behind A-rod in the order. Giambi is just terrible.

Anyhoo, no matter what happens with this team, I really looking forward to next season in the new ballpark.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I have to admit, I don't miss BDC's bondage pic of Chasey Lain, even though I designed it. It was kind of creepy in the long run.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And Brett - BDC is "Bulldogcakes", a former poster here. He was known for posting clips from blog sites and saying "I agree" with nothing to back it up. Also known for his love of bulldogs and pastries.

He left because he took the board TOO SERIOUSLY when Spoon and Snoogans and a few others ganged up on him.

The lesson: don't take the board too seriously.

[brettmojo]

And Brett - BDC is "Bulldogcakes", a former poster here. He was known for posting clips from blog sites and saying "I agree" with nothing to back it up. Also known for his love of bulldogs and pastries.

He left because he took the board TOO SERIOUSLY when Spoon and Snoogans and a few others ganged up on him.

The lesson: don't take the board too seriously.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/FBA/l_13c1c578e9b088b24e81bd601f1f2d2b.gif

[HBox]

I'll be less pissed if Pavano gets injured tomorrow than if he pitches well.

[TheGameHHH]

And Brett - BDC is "Bulldogcakes", a former poster here. He was known for posting clips from blog sites and saying "I agree" with nothing to back it up. Also known for his love of bulldogs and pastries.

He left because he took the board TOO SERIOUSLY when Spoon and Snoogans and a few others ganged up on him.

The lesson: don't take the board too seriously.

I know, no need to tell me. remember i was here for all of it

[TheGameHHH]

I'll be less pissed if Pavano gets injured tomorrow than if he pitches well.

im indifferent to tomorrow......first, ill be at a concert in Pompano Beach so ill miss the game anyway, and second at this point the worst thing that can happen is he wins. so whatever.

[Kevin]

Poll Results

Thank you for voting.

What does Carl Pavano pitching for the Yanks on Saturday signify?
The apocalypse 8%
The sad state of affairs in the Bronx 18%
Desperation, pure and simple 20%
All of the above 54%

[Knowledged_one]

damn you clutch rod

[Knowledged_one]

whatever you say New BDC

I hav gotten the trademark on BDC v2.0 just for future reference

and i am a bit disapointed i wasnt included in the group who chased BDC v1.0 away from here
it kinda makes my efforts in that all for naught

[A.J.]

uh oh, the orange and black machine is about to roll over some pinstripes

pavano is going down

down down down

Stellar job by the O's bullpen.

Cano crushed one that hit the top of Boog's!

[TheGameHHH]

I hav gotten the trademark on BDC v2.0 just for future reference

and i am a bit disapointed i wasnt included in the group who chased BDC v1.0 away from here
it kinda makes my efforts in that all for naught

i completely forgot about your effort in making BDC leave, thats my fault. please accept my apology.

[Doctor Z]

http://www.gotmelk.com/uploads/pavanoknight.jpg

AT LONG LAST, OUR HERO HAS ARRIVED!!! AND HE'S HERE TO RESTORE ORDER AND SAVE THE YANKEES' SEASON!

[HBox]

Well I'm ready for another 4 and 40 deal. Who's with me?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well I'm ready for another 4 and 40 deal. Who's with me?

It'll be like Ponson's deal. For every four innings pitched, he'll get a 40.

[Kevin]

Well I'm ready for another 4 and 40 deal. Who's with me?

I AM!

[TheGameHHH]

wow, he won......he's won his last two starts, theyre 501 days apart

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know, no need to tell me. remember i was here for all of it

NOT YOUUUUUUUUUUUU.

Re-read the conversation and see who I was talking to.

[TheGameHHH]

NOT YOUUUUUUUUUUUU.

Re-read the conversation and see who I was talking to.

i know, thats me making a joke

[Tenbatsuzen]

i know, thats me making a joke

Were you?

[TheGameHHH]

can rasner hold a two run lead?

[Kevin]

80 pitches in 3innings? Really?

[lleeder]

For a second there I thought he might charge the mound.

[lleeder]

Nady is so the man.

[TheGameHHH]

Nady is so the man.

yes, he is


X

[Kevin]

what a great pick up Nady was.

[Kevin]

Nady sucks

[Kevin]

seriously how do we not have anyone better than Rasner to pitch?

[Doctor Z]

I'm not even Jewish and Kevin Millar's mustache offends me.

[Kevin]

Even Suzan Waldman has better hands than Jeter. And a better arm than Damon.

[zildjian361]

oh my god this is better than Roger Clemens in GS box ouch:annoyed:

[Kevin]

Nice fucking job Girardi. Take out Robertson who was pitching pretty good for mediocre Edwar.

[lleeder]

seriously how do we not have anyone better than Rasner to pitch?

Thats how 7-7

[TheGameHHH]

u gotta love when your team gives up a 7-2 lead against a last place club

[TheMojoPin]

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/469735.jpg

[TheGameHHH]

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/gameday/mugshots/mlb/469735.jpg

i have these stats that say Edwar is usually incredibly clutch going into situations where he has a two run lead in the 3rd inning or later. so i continue to love him anyway

[TheMojoPin]

That's just a goofy pic.

[TheGameHHH]

it is goofy, and it somehow makes him look less retarded then he normally does

[Kevin]

Even Mariano's young sun punks him. When they asked Giradi about it, he said well, Mo Jr has to pick on someone his own size.

[lleeder]

Even Mariano's young sun punks him. When they asked Giradi about it, he said well, Mo Jr has to pick on someone his own size.

His sun is quite bright.

[Kevin]

His sun is quite bright.


So bright, he's gotta wear shades. KevinMobile. Not good.

[TheGameHHH]

this is where Marte needs to be taken out. he got the lefty, now find somebody else to do the rest of the work

[Kevin]

Nice Work by Marte.

[TheGameHHH]

Nice Work by Marte.

still a miss-use of him. im not sure what part of situational lefty girardi doesnt understand

[Kevin]

still a miss-use of him. im not sure what part of situational lefty girardi doesnt understand


Who else does he have? Bruney cant pitch Veres did. You are not bringing Mo in. You want to give the ball to Britten?

[Kevin]

uh oh, the orange and black machine is about to roll over some pinstripes

pavano is going down

down down down

Sooooooooo...

How did that turn out..

Those Cano Doubles and Hrs he hit this series were very Mediocre...

[Knowledged_one]

Sooooooooo...

How did that turn out..

Those Cano Doubles and Hrs he hit this series were very Mediocre...

Orioles suck

Yankees rule

Cano still mediocre

KO sucks

Kevin, Game, and Doctor Z rule

[Gabe Rahamlincoln]

Hey don't forget about my brother and I!

[Babe Rahamlincoln]

Yeah! What about us?!

[JPMNICK]

Hey don't forget about my brother and I!

Yeah! What about us?!

we already have odd twin brothers who post here, but one is a Mets fan

[Babe Rahamlincoln]

Who said we were twins?

[TheGameHHH]

Orioles suck

Yankees rule

Cano still mediocre

KO sucks

Kevin, Game, and Doctor Z rule

fuckin a right i rule

[ChrisTheCop]

This'll be the last time playing in Ruth's house. Kinda sad.

UNLESS-- As long as we can turn it on after this series, we let the yanks sweep us this time.
That would increase chances for our annual October meetings, which, lets face it, we all look forward to.

Even though we see eachother again at the very end of September, which is kinda like October...

I dunno. The most interesting game looks to be Wake vs. pettit. Especially if Wake has his stuff. Sox do well against pettit. But the reason itll be cool is because, these 2 pitchers have seen the rivalry over the years at yankee stadium. And it may be the last time they face eachother there. Look at me--I'm caught up in the nostalgia.

Good luck guys--enjoy!

[TheGameHHH]

MLB Extra Innings can be quite frustrating sometimes. They go with the home broadcast 98% of the time. Especially since this is the last time the Sox come to the Bronx you would think they'd give me the YES Network. Oh no, instead i'm stuck with NESN and I have to listen to annoying Bahston accents all night. They'll be talking about how wicked fah Wake's knuckleball is moving and how much they miss Nomah and Millah. seriously, kill me.

[Kevin]

MLB Extra Innings can be quite frustrating sometimes. They go with the home broadcast 98% of the time. Especially since this is the last time the Sox come to the Bronx you would think they'd give me the YES Network. Oh no, instead i'm stuck with NESN and I have to listen to annoying Bahston accents all night. They'll be talking about how wicked fah Wake's knuckleball is moving and how much they miss Nomah and Millah. seriously, kill me.

I'd rather listen to Jerry Remy than Michael Kay anyday of the week.

[zildjian361]

this series is it ladies and gentlemen flarety is a dope we need to sweep:innocent::drunk::smoke:

[TheGameHHH]

Can somebody help me figure out how A-Rod is batting .312? If you told me he was batting .176 I'd absolutely believe you.

[Kevin]

I would like to say that this umpire is a faggot. He was calling balls on Andy on pitches that were much better than what he was calling strikes on Wakefield.

[Kevin]

That was like a 40 hopper, how the hell did it go through?

[Kevin]

Pettite has come up really small in alot of big games this year.

[TheGameHHH]

my heart aches because of this team......i just want the season to end already

[Kevin]

Why does Giambi even fucking play.

[cougarjake13]

Why does Giambi even fucking play.

17-21 mil whatever the hell hes gettin paid

[Kevin]

Clutch, huh Mojo and Hbox...


VERY CLUTCH!!

[joeyballsack]

I get the whole not clutch thing, but it still amazes me that Yankee fans boo Arod.

You think that may help to contribute to his struggles ?

[Kevin]

I get the whole not clutch thing, but it still amazes me that Yankee fans boo Arod.

You think that may help to contribute to his struggles ?

We dont boo him until he really starts to suck ass.

[brettmojo]

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/150785/2/istockphoto_150785_down_the_drain.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Clutch, huh Mojo and Hbox...


VERY CLUTCH!!

2008 thus far. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=rodrial01&year=2008#situa-clutc)

And if you counter by pointing out averages and ignoring that in every scenario he's getting on base at at least a .386 clip and slugging at least .415 (which then jumps to at least .492 in every other scenario), I'm gonna ninja kick you in the forehead.

YOU'RE STUPID "WHAT I SEE IS MORE ACCURATE" LOGIC FAILS. COMPLETELY.

[TheMojoPin]

We dont boo him until he really starts to suck ass.

Which he's not even remotely close to doing. How's he been performing this year? Oh, right...YET AGAIN AS ONE OF THE BEST HITTERS IN ALL OF BASEBALL. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=rodrial01&year=2008#total-total)

[Doctor Z]

Really glad Pettitte had to pitch with a 4-inch strike zone. And of course, A-Rod is the definition of clutch.

Sad thing is, I literally looked over to my friend and said "6-4-3 or 5-4-3?" 2 seconds later, 6-4-3... A-Rod is the most predictably unclutch player in the history of sports.

And you know what Yankee fans love to see after a guy fucks up like that? A smirk. Really nice to see a snide little smirk on A-Rod's face after he brutally murdered that rally. Just what Yankee fans wanna see. Don't get angry at yourself. Don't throw your helmet or punch a cooler... Just smirk. Great.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

hey Company, its me Misery

[JPMNICK]

hey Company, its me Misery

that was fucking line of the day for me. hysterical.

[RingWraith]

Well so far, A-Rod is only awesome every two years. Since he started with the Yankees, he's been an MVP in '05, '07. But in the even years '04, '06, '08 (so far), not that great in regular seasons.
Playoffs of course is a whole different story.
I guess A-Rod will be awesome again next year in '09.

[brettmojo]

In Yankee wins, he hits .358. In losses, many of which he could have impacted, just .251.
Runners in scoring position? Just .250.
Two runners on? A paltry .175.
Bases loaded? Try .111.
Runner on third base, less than two out? Just .250.
Late & Close (7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck)? An OK .288, but with only 7 RBI in 59 at-bats.Here are a couple of numbers that show you how well A-Fraud has done in non-pressure situations. They shouldn’t surprise anyone who has paid attention.
Bases empty? A .348 average.
And, here is a really telling one. With the margin of a game at 4 runs or greater, A-Fraud’s batting average is a staggering .411. There is your ‘piling on meaningless numbers’ evidence right there.

A... Fraud? EL-OH-EL.

[JPMNICK]

In Yankee wins, he hits .358. In losses, many of which he could have impacted, just .251.
Runners in scoring position? Just .250.
Two runners on? A paltry .175.
Bases loaded? Try .111.
Runner on third base, less than two out? Just .250.
Late & Close (7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck)? An OK .288, but with only 7 RBI in 59 at-bats.Here are a couple of numbers that show you how well A-Fraud has done in non-pressure situations. They shouldn’t surprise anyone who has paid attention.
Bases empty? A .348 average.
And, here is a really telling one. With the margin of a game at 4 runs or greater, A-Fraud’s batting average is a staggering .411. There is your ‘piling on meaningless numbers’ evidence right there.

A... Fraud? EL-OH-EL.

i am not a huge fan of his, but there is much different pitching in the game in the above scenario then some of the other ones. his average is higher also because he is facing shittier pitchers

[JimBeam]

The stat I thought was interesting was that he has only driven in 2 runs all year in the 8th and 9th innings.

Mojo I understand your point that he's actually having a good year, and he is, but his OBP doesn't really matter as the cleanup hitter.

It's his job in the #4 spot to drive in runs and not to just get on base.

He's essentially leaving it up to the next guy.

[JPMNICK]

The stat I thought was interesting was that he has only driven in 2 runs all year in the 8th and 9th innings.

Mojo I understand your point that he's actually having a good year, and he is, but his OBP doesn't really matter as the cleanup hitter.

It's his job in the #4 spot to drive in runs and not to just get on base.

He's essentially leaving it up to the next guy.

and giambi is 10x worse then him. they need to move giambi to 3 or 6, and move abreau behind arod

[TheMojoPin]

O
P
S

Jesus Christ.

His slugging in every clutch scenario except 2 outs with RISP is either right under .500 (.492) or over in every other category, combined with OPS at least .365 and up.

[JimBeam]

That play at 1st w/ Giambi yesterday was baffling.

One one hand you think he thinks the out was called at 1st base, which would've ended the inning, but he turns to look towards the plate as if to throw.

Then he turns around and acts like he thought the out was called.

But why turn to the plate if you think it's the 3rd out ?

Wouldn't he have just walked towards the dugout ?

[Doctor Z]

O
P
S

Jesus Christ.

His slugging in every clutch scenario except 2 outs with RISP is either right under .500 (.492) or over in every other category, combined with OPS at least .365 and up.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/hondaboi925/DevilsAdvocate.jpg

[Knowledged_one]

do you know that i would lop off Melvin Moras head to have ARod on the Orioles

[brettmojo]

O
P
S

Jesus Christ.

His slugging in every clutch scenario except 2 outs with RISP is either right under .500 (.492) or over in every other category, combined with OPS at least .365 and up.
I was where you are once...









I'll see you here.

[TheGameHHH]

let's toss out an example and we'll use extremes to try and see where everyone stands on this. let's say we have player X and player X is hitting .550 on the season (which is outstanding, the greatest average off all time thus far) but in "clutch" situations such as RISP and "close and late" he is literally batting .112. Is he a "good" player?

wow i used a lot of quote there

[Knowledged_one]

I was where you are once...









I'll see you here.

ahhh bdc v2.0 its good to see you are a new and improved version of the inferior model

[Knowledged_one]

and i want to know for those that despise clutch-rod who do you think is a clutch player and what are his stats. Or more important what are Clutch-Rods stats against the only other prime 3B FA of this past year Mike Lowell.

Hate if you want but do you yankee fans really want to return to the days of Scott Brosius at 3rd?

[TheGameHHH]

and i want to know for those that despise clutch-rod who do you think is a clutch player and what are his stats. Or more important what are Clutch-Rods stats against the only other prime 3B FA of this past year Mike Lowell.

Hate if you want but do you yankee fans really want to return to the days of Scott Brosius at 3rd?

if it meant a team like 1998 and a championship then we'd all take that in a heartbeat.

[Knowledged_one]

if it meant a team like 1998 and a championship then we'd all take that in a heartbeat.

no it means having scott brosius as the starting 3B

[TheGameHHH]

no it means having scott brosius as the starting 3B

like he was in 1998, 1999, 2000 & 2001? all years they went to the world series, winning 3 of 4

[TheMojoPin]

like he was in 1998, 1999, 2000 & 2001? all years they went to the world series, winning 3 of 4

Because of Scott Brosius?

[Knowledged_one]

Because of Scott Brosius?

well he did lead the AL in HBP with 10 in 98

[TheMojoPin]

let's toss out an example and we'll use extremes to try and see where everyone stands on this. let's say we have player X and player X is hitting .550 on the season (which is outstanding, the greatest average off all time thus far) but in "clutch" situations such as RISP and "close and late" he is literally batting .112. Is he a "good" player?

wow i used a lot of quote there

That's a ridiculous question. Of course he's a good player. He's one of the best ever. One precise scenario doesn't somehow negate everything else. I'm also curious the exact specifics of what you're talking about. His numbers stink this year with the bases loaded. They're also not good with a man on second. Everything else is either average or, more often, very good to great. His overall numbers with RISP are definitely way down this year, but they're hardly catastrophic:

.246 .400 .413 .813

Here are the scenario breakdowns as of today. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=rodrial01&year=2008#situa-bases)

His RISP numbers are more indicative of a hitter followed by relatively shitty or #5 hitters. Pitchers give him garbage with RISP since odds are Giambi is just gonna shit the bed after him.

[Freitag]

I'd rather have a team of character guys than a team of headcases.

You may laugh, but I can totally see Nady being the Tino/O'Neill cornerstone for something really cool next year, once a lot of the dead weight is cut.

[badorties]

I'd rather have a team of character guys than a team of headcases.

You may laugh, but I can totally see Nady being the Tino/O'Neill cornerstone for something really cool next year, once a lot of the dead weight is cut.

not the craziest thing i've seen, but how much of the dead weight can they purge ...?

[Knowledged_one]

not the craziest thing i've seen, but how much of the dead weight can they purge ...?

Pettite
Pudge
Abreu
Giambi
Mussina

off the top of my head

[Tenbatsuzen]

Pettite
Pudge
Abreu
Giambi
Mussina

off the top of my head

I don't think Mussina exactly counts as "dead weight". He'll probably sign a Glavine-style one-year deal with the Yankees next year and they'll take it year to year.

Giambi is done.

If Pavano proves he wants to pitch, and does well the rest of the year, I wouldn't be shocked if he came back at a very reduced rate for the Yankees. I'd be surprised, but not shocked. Dude's only 32.

Pudge was a rental. He's not coming back.

Pettite will probably retire.

Abreu is probably gone too, and they might try a Matsui/Nady/Damon outfield, or maybe Austin Jackson is ready to go.

[Knowledged_one]

I don't think Mussina exactly counts as "dead weight". He'll probably sign a Glavine-style one-year deal with the Yankees next year and they'll take it year to year.

Giambi is done.

If Pavano proves he wants to pitch, and does well the rest of the year, I wouldn't be shocked if he came back at a very reduced rate for the Yankees. I'd be surprised, but not shocked. Dude's only 32.

Pudge was a rental. He's not coming back.

Pettite will probably retire.

Abreu is probably gone too, and they might try a Matsui/Nady/Damon outfield, or maybe Austin Jackson is ready to go.

i knew when i posted it that Mussina would be wrong, let me rephrase off the top of my head those are the Yankee FA's that i know of

[Kevin]

His RISP numbers are more indicative of a hitter followed by relatively shitty or #5 hitters. Pitchers give him garbage with RISP since odds are Giambi is just gonna shit the bed after him.

I see your point there, but the problem is.

A. ALWAYS takes 1st pitch no matter where it is.

B. Gets in a hole 0-2 1-2 then has to protect and chases bad pitches.


Look no matter how many times he makes out in the clutch, i always in the back of my mind think, maybe this time he will do somthing. He is a great player but he just does not do it in big spots. And this year is by far the worst i have ever seen.

But your point of Giambi sucking ass really hurting him, is very valid.

[Knowledged_one]

http://www.lohud.com/blogs/profiles/pabraham.jpg

I am Darth Abraham, look into my eyes. BDC v1.0 has been indoctrinated into my cult soon BDC v2.0 shall join him

You must believe A-Rod is clutch, Mussina will win 20 games and Joe Torre is the antichrist

[TheGameHHH]

That's a ridiculous question. Of course he's a good player. He's one of the best ever. One precise scenario doesn't somehow negate everything else. I'm also curious the exact specifics of what you're talking about. His numbers stink this year with the bases loaded. They're also not good with a man on second. Everything else is either average or, more often, very good to great. His overall numbers with RISP are definitely way down this year, but they're hardly catastrophic:

.246 .400 .413 .813

Here are the scenario breakdowns as of today. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=rodrial01&year=2008#situa-bases)

His RISP numbers are more indicative of a hitter followed by relatively shitty or #5 hitters. Pitchers give him garbage with RISP since odds are Giambi is just gonna shit the bed after him.

im not arguing with you, im trying to open up discussions for debate. shit like this is what a lot of yankees fans see. when they're up 13-2 and a-rod comes up with the bases loaded, he mashes. when they're down 2-1 with the bases loaded, he grounds into an inning ending double play. so the question was more how do u register what "good" is. Is good being able to deliver more often then not when you're up 7-0? or do you suck because you can't come through close and late?

[TheGameHHH]

Because of Scott Brosius?

no, but i dont think they won in spite of him either

[zildjian361]

we will never see another team like the 98 Yanks. 114 wins inthe regular season.were 70-61 so if we go 30and 1 we could still win 100:lol::wink:

[Kevin]

Arod has 3RBIs after the 7th inn this year. 3 MOTHERFUCKING RBIs. I don't give a shit about his OPS CVS OR GPS. 3 RBIs.

[Kevin]

Yay to the great Brian Cashman. In a must have late aug game vs the Redsox, he has the great Sidney Ponson on the mound.

[Kevin]

That strike call deserves a suspension

[Dan 'Hampton]

Told you he was clutch!

[Kevin]

Why the fuck is Giamb still anywhere near the 5th hole?

[TheGameHHH]

Sidney Ponson is a douchebag

[Kevin]

Sidney Ponson is a douchebag


That ump is more of a douchebag. Last night and tonight.

[joeyballsack]

That ump is more of a douchebag. Last night and tonight.



Are they switching umps when Boston pitches ?

[cougarjake13]

Why the fuck is Giamb still anywhere near the 5th hole?

he thinks he's a goalie

[Kevin]

Are they switching umps when Boston pitches ?


Byrd has gotten calls on worse pitches. Same last night with wake and andy. Last nights ump was Jim Wakefield Tonight Saul Byrd.

[joeyballsack]

Byrd has gotten calls on worse pitches. Same last night with wake and andy. Last nights ump was Jim Wakefield Tonight Saul Byrd.


Well that is clear evidence of some kind of conspiracy and Congress should investigate.

[cougarjake13]

wow

[lleeder]

Can they just put the whole team on waivers and start rebuilding for next year? I-rod, A-rod, Big G I can't stand any of them anymore.

[lleeder]

Please just give up the grand slam already!!!!!

[brettmojo]

Please just give up the grand slam already!!!!!
MESSAGE BOARD PSYCHIC! MESSAGE BOARD PSYCHIC!

[lleeder]

Yes!!!!! Make it hurt. This team deserves to look like fools. :surrender:

[cougarjake13]

wow


so far year one girardi prediction is looking good

[Kevin]

Well that is clear evidence of some kind of conspiracy and Congress should investigate.

Hank is on it.

These team deserves to go down like the dogs they have been all year..


If this team really tanks, Girardi get fired?

[brettmojo]

So... If Torre lost the team the past few years as some people say, apparently Girardi can't find them either.

[cougarjake13]

Hank is on it.

These team deserves to go down like the dogs they have been all year..


If this team really tanks, Girardi get fired?


2 questions


whats your definition of tanked ??


who are you gonna get to replace him ??


i think he gets at least a 2nd yr b/c it wasnt girardis fault that they didnt go out and get some starters,
it wasnt his fault that kennedy and hughes didnt produce as expected
it wasnt his fault that wang,joba, and posada got hurt

[brettmojo]

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/col-trautman.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Jets thread. And BrettNotGame - Nice.

[Kevin]

2 questions


whats your definition of tanked ??


who are you gonna get to replace him ??


i think he gets at least a 2nd yr b/c it wasnt girardis fault that they didnt go out and get some starters,
it wasnt his fault that kennedy and hughes didnt produce as expected
it wasnt his fault that wang,joba, and posada got hurt

Finish last

I don't know.. Mattingly? Lol..

And pitching has not been the problem for the most part this year.

Its been the offense and their lack of what seems to be motivation, effort and discipline.

He is has also made some head scratchers of moves..

I'm sure he won't get fired, but he has not a good job.

[lleeder]

I'm sure he won't get fired, but he has not a good job.

OK Warrior.

[cougarjake13]

well they are only 8 games ahead of last place baltimore so its within reach


but i dont see them finishing last


would be funny if girardi goes and mattingly comes in

[Kevin]

OK Warrior.

http://www.mathewbrowne.com/images/warrior.jpg

[brettmojo]

http://www.enterprisemission.com/End.jpg

[Doctor Z]

Rumors are swirling around that the Yankees will actually play out the remainder of their schedule, as a courtesy to ticket-holders who may have purchased tickets in advance. Details are not yet official.

[TheGameHHH]

Girardi's job is safe for now but if this happens again next year i could see him losing his job after season 2.

[TheMojoPin]

Arod has 3RBIs after the 7th inn this year. 3 MOTHERFUCKING RBIs. I don't give a shit about his OPS CVS OR GPS. 3 RBIs.

So how much are guys getting on base in front of him after the 7th inning?

[Freitag]

Are you guys actually discussing Joe's job safety? Are you guys NUTS?

Do you think when this season started, that ANYONE envisioned IPK and Hughes crapping the bed like they did, and Wang and Joba going down?

That's why I said previously that "angry Jim Norton" = stupidity. He RAILED on the Yankees that "they'll never win because they don't have pitching", meanwhile, if Wang and Joba were healthy, they would have a pretty damn good four man roation with Moose, Wang, Joba, and Andy. If Hughes was half the pitcher he showed potential of last year, that's your #5.

Let's review:

Lose team leader and strong bat for 3/4 of the season. (Jorge)

Lose another strong bat for 1/2 the season (Matsui)

Trade deadline deal that backfires for both teams involved (Pudge for Farnsworth)

The rookies and young players we had high hopes for did not materialize at all (IPK, Hughes, Shelley, Melky)

The Rays came out of nowhere

A-Rod becomes a distraction to the team AGAIN.

Two of the Yankees' best pitchers go down, one done for the season.

Seriously. If they go 500 for the year, they'll finish with 85 wins. If Joba gives you five more wins and Wang gives you five more wins, WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL.

[Doctor Z]

Psyched for 2018.

[A.J.]

Are you guys actually discussing Joe's job safety? Are you guys NUTS?

If anyone is getting fired, it's Cashman. Unless he can get Sabathia in the offseason.

[Knowledged_one]

Are you guys actually discussing Joe's job safety? Are you guys NUTS?

Do you think when this season started, that ANYONE envisioned IPK and Hughes crapping the bed like they did, and Wang and Joba going down?

That's why I said previously that "angry Jim Norton" = stupidity. He RAILED on the Yankees that "they'll never win because they don't have pitching", meanwhile, if Wang and Joba were healthy, they would have a pretty damn good four man roation with Moose, Wang, Joba, and Andy. If Hughes was half the pitcher he showed potential of last year, that's your #5.

Let's review:

Lose team leader and strong bat for 3/4 of the season. (Jorge)

Lose another strong bat for 1/2 the season (Matsui)

Trade deadline deal that backfires for both teams involved (Pudge for Farnsworth)

The rookies and young players we had high hopes for did not materialize at all (IPK, Hughes, Shelley, Melky)

The Rays came out of nowhere

A-Rod becomes a distraction to the team AGAIN.

Two of the Yankees' best pitchers go down, one done for the season.

Seriously. If they go 500 for the year, they'll finish with 85 wins. If Joba gives you five more wins and Wang gives you five more wins, WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL.

Ok first:

1. Posada losing a catcher is a big deal as far as calling games goes but in 51 games he had 3 HR, was hitting .268, 22 RBI and his OBP was .364 - Yankee fans were expecting a lot because of his fluke year last year and there was no way he could repeat taht performance.

2. Matsui was hardly having a great year, yes he was hitting .311, but only 9 HR and 36 RBI's in 77 games is hardly anything to write home about especially for a LF and he was mainly DH'ing this year to begin with. Those are horrible power numbers for a DH

3. Pudge for Farnsworth was hardly a failure on both parts the yankees knew they couldnt contend with the Catchers that they had so they got a guy who they thought could step in and the Nady and Marte deal is nowhere near a failure

4. Who was it that exactly had hight hopes for Shelley Duncan? And Cano has been average for a guy that got a big deal, true the pitchers didnt work out very well but those are the growing pains of young pitchers, but Joba pitched well and he is young. And who expected big things from Melky Cabrera again an average player that the yankees overvalued and never put up great numbers especially considering the position he plays he doesnt steal bases and OBP is not great nor is his walk/SO ratio that great

5. The Rays came out of nowhere to people who dont know the sport or who are so Yankee/Red Six centric they think the league revolves around their teams. The Rays have been stocking talent for a long time and there were a lot of people who picked them for third in the division that is hardly coming from nowhere.

6. How has A-Rod been a bigger distraction this year then last when all the talk was about his contract status, or his wife's clothing at the stadium. Hank Steinbrenner >> A. Rod as far as distractions go this year

7. Yeah they lost their pitcher because he is to retarded to know how to run the bases thats not a problem that was because of overworking or anything its because he was retarded. And i have said before about Chamberlain the Yankees IMO did not do enough to stretch him out to be a starter. And Mussina has been a much better pitcher this year then Chamberlain was even Wang for that matter.

8. And you cant just say with those guys healthy they are worth five more wins each, thats assuming that the guys who took their place did not win any games, Rasner, Ponson and even Pavano have won games for the yankees this year that replaced some of those wins.

The bottom line is the Yankees are an aging team, that signed bad deals with Giambi, Damon, and Posada and now cant get out from under them. Their farm talent is no where near other teams. And Jeter should be playing third not SS, Rodriguez is the much better fielder of the two but it would be blashpemy to suggest moving Jeter even though his range has deteriorated over the years

Everyone said the slow start is a Yankee thing and finally came back to bite them in the ass, and at the start of the year when they played so poorly they didnt have the injury problems so whats the excuse for that?

[joeyballsack]

I am going to watch a Scranton Wilkes Barre double header this weekend against Syracuse. Does anyone know where I could find out the probable starters for those games ? I went to their web site but didnt see that info anywhere on there.

Is there a forum someone could direct me to that centers around the Yankees farm clubs that may have that info ? I am thinking Hughes or Kennedy may be starting one of the games, but it might also be Kei Igawa.

Also, has anyone heard anything about Joba maybe making a rehab start ? If so, that will make those 9 dollar tickets pretty nice.

[Freitag]

Ok first:

1. Posada losing a catcher is a big deal as far as calling games goes but in 51 games he had 3 HR, was hitting .268, 22 RBI and his OBP was .364 - Yankee fans were expecting a lot because of his fluke year last year and there was no way he could repeat taht performance.



The stats you are quoting include Posada coming back from the injury that he was never healed from. The reason Posada is done for the year is because of the initial injury that put him on the DL in the first place. Don't use the absolute "there is no way" that he could do anything - people thought Mussina was done done done, look what happened there.



2. Matsui was hardly having a great year, yes he was hitting .311, but only 9 HR and 36 RBI's in 77 games is hardly anything to write home about especially for a LF and he was mainly DH'ing this year to begin with. Those are horrible power numbers for a DH



Matsui was playing hurt earlier this year, and Matsui is playing hurt now. You can't always torque a home run ball when you can't put a lot of weight on your knee. The reason why he's DHing is because he can't run around in left field on one leg


3. Pudge for Farnsworth was hardly a failure on both parts the yankees knew they couldnt contend with the Catchers that they had so they got a guy who they thought could step in and the Nady and Marte deal is nowhere near a failure


Pudge ain't hitting. It's the only reason they got him, because Molina is fine on defense. And one of the better pitchers on the staff doesn't want to work with him. The decline of the Yankees bullpen can be traced back to when Farnsworth left.

I wasn't talking about the Nady/Marte deal. On all accounts, that was a pretty good deal. But the Pudge deal hasn't worked AT ALL.


4. Who was it that exactly had hight hopes for Shelley Duncan? And Cano has been average for a guy that got a big deal, true the pitchers didnt work out very well but those are the growing pains of young pitchers, but Joba pitched well and he is young. And who expected big things from Melky Cabrera again an average player that the yankees overvalued and never put up great numbers especially considering the position he plays he doesnt steal bases and OBP is not great nor is his walk/SO ratio that great


Are you totally misreading my posts? Joba has exceeded expectations and he wasn't mentioned in the "high hopes". Neither was Cano. Cano is stabilizing although he was terrible earlier this year. Melky was expected to be maybe a 280-290 hitter with some pop - perhaps even better, considering that he wasn't traded for Johan. So there WERE expectations for Melky that were not met. Shelley Duncan was seen as the cheaper heir apparent to Giambi earlier this year. So much for that.



5. The Rays came out of nowhere to people who dont know the sport or who are so Yankee/Red Six centric they think the league revolves around their teams. The Rays have been stocking talent for a long time and there were a lot of people who picked them for third in the division that is hardly coming from nowhere.


People thought the rays were going to be good. People didn't think they were going to be THIS GOOD. If you want, I can pull some posts on this very site where I said in the beggining of this season and last year that they Rays could pull it together.


6. How has A-Rod been a bigger distraction this year then last when all the talk was about his contract status, or his wife's clothing at the stadium. Hank Steinbrenner >> A. Rod as far as distractions go this year


His wife's shirt was a one-day thing. The Madonna thing went for 2-3 weeks. No good. Especially with his poor play as of late. It's died down, but it wasn't a good situation.


7. Yeah they lost their pitcher because he is to retarded to know how to run the bases thats not a problem that was because of overworking or anything its because he was retarded. And i have said before about Chamberlain the Yankees IMO did not do enough to stretch him out to be a starter. And Mussina has been a much better pitcher this year then Chamberlain was even Wang for that matter.


It was a freak injury. That stuff happens all the time. But it hurts when it's the "ace" of your staff. Speaking of retarded, please write better, I can hardly make out what the above sentence says.


8. And you cant just say with those guys healthy they are worth five more wins each, thats assuming that the guys who took their place did not win any games, Rasner, Ponson and even Pavano have won games for the yankees this year that replaced some of those wins.



Those wins that Rasner, Ponson, and Pavano got are basically "fifth starter" wins. Even if IPK and Hughes didn't win at all for the team this year, having Wang and or Chamberlain on this team puts them in a much, much better position than Moose, Pettite, and prayer. I mean, Dan Giese? Rasner? Seriously? When 60% of your rotation is a bunch of green kids, journeymen and guys coming back from Tommy John, THAT'S A PROBLEM.


The bottom line is the Yankees are an aging team, that signed bad deals with Giambi, Damon, and Posada and now cant get out from under them. Their farm talent is no where near other teams. And Jeter should be playing third not SS, Rodriguez is the much better fielder of the two but it would be blashpemy to suggest moving Jeter even though his range has deteriorated over the years


Jeter and A-Rod's positions have nothing to do with the Yankees' current standings, and it's a typical crutch that most people yelling about the Yankees will use. At most, a situation that would have been better with A-Rod at Short and Jeter at 3rd may have affected the outcome of less than five games. I can't remember the last time I saw a play and said "Wow, that would have been an out if A-Rod was there."

As for the farm system, what the hell are you talking about?


Everyone said the slow start is a Yankee thing and finally came back to bite them in the ass, and at the start of the year when they played so poorly they didnt have the injury problems so whats the excuse for that?

Fans like to use the slow starts Yankees have from previous years as a benchmark. They've started slow in other years and made the playoffs.

The difference, quite honestly, was the Rays. The Yankees only really had to worry about the Bosox in their division. Now with the Rays added into the mix, it makes the division more interesting and competitive. The Yankees rested on the laurels, and when the rays came out of the box fighting, the situation changed.

[Kevin]

So how much are guys getting on base in front of him after the 7th inning?

More times than you think.

Yankees have constintaly had RISP the whole game towards from 1st to 9. And they have not gotten the job done. mosty due to their 4th and 5th hitters.

[TheGameHHH]

does it make me a bad fan if im actually rooting for Lester and Bay more then the Yankees now cause i wanna finish first in my fantasy league and get a first round bye when playoffs start next week?

[Knowledged_one]

You quote injuries as the big reason the Yankees have failed, the Rays have endured injuries to Longoria and Crawford with little drop off

the Red Sox have had a big injury to Ortiz that they got through as well as missed starts by Dice-K and Beckett, and not to mention Buckholz has been a disapointment as well for them, but they have recovered just as well.

So if the Yankees farm system is that great where are the people to step in for them when their regulars got hurt?

I will give you Wang as maybe being worth more wins, but Chamberlain has missed only 5 starts or so, so your assumption is that he would have won each one since then?

And if those guys were so hurt, then that is a poor job by the manager to not take them out that is his responsibility. And its on the players as well, to continue to play hurt when they are clearly harming the team is simply selfish on their part.

[Knowledged_one]

does it make me a bad fan if im actually rooting for Lester and Bay more then the Yankees now cause i wanna finish first in my fantasy league and get a first round bye when playoffs start next week?

if it makes you feel better there was a time when i had Pettite on my team this year when he was hot and i actually was cheering for him against the Orioles.

When money is on the line, allegiance goes out the window

[Freitag]

You quote injuries as the big reason the Yankees have failed, the Rays have endured injuries to Longoria and Crawford with little drop off

the Red Sox have had a big injury to Ortiz that they got through as well as missed starts by Dice-K and Beckett, and not to mention Buckholz has been a disapointment as well for them, but they have recovered just as well.

So if the Yankees farm system is that great where are the people to step in for them when their regulars got hurt?



It's a lot easier to replace position players than it is pitchers. Especially when said pitchers are your #1 guy and the other would be a #2 on many teams in the majors.


Look at the Mets w/o Wagner. They are in a very precarious position right now.


If Wang left after 15 games. If he had 30 starts this year, and just had the same performance he had this year, that's 8 more wins.



I will give you Wang as maybe being worth more wins, but Chamberlain has missed only 5 starts or so, so your assumption is that he would have won each one since then?



Wang is worth more wins. And if the Yankees continue to tank, they'll shut down Chamberlain for the year.

So it's not complete insane to assume that if the Yankees had Wang, Joba, Andy, and Moose, they'd be on pace for 95 wins instead of 85. The fifth starter could have been Ponson, with Rasner in the pen.

[Kevin]

Arod. Clutch as Mojo says.

[Doctor Z]

Alright, 1st & 2nd, nobody out... Let's get a couple runs in here and maybe get Moose a win!

Oh... oh that's... that's just...

...why

[Doctor Z]

http://www.bangkokhealth.com/cimages/vomiting02.jpg

[Kevin]

Alright, 1st & 2nd, nobody out... Let's get a couple runs in here and maybe get Moose a win!

Oh... oh that's... that's just...

...why



I am listening to the Radio and Suzan and Sterling were right on. They said if you were in Europe the whole year and just came back today and are wondering why the yankees are where they are, that last inning was the reason why.

[spadanko]

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-6iP3T0P28&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-6iP3T0P28&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Doctor Z]

THANK GOD we have Jason Giambi up to pinch hit here. His clutchness is probably the greatest in baseball history.

(Reality: I liked Molina's chances a lot better.)

[Doctor Z]

.JASON GIAMBI!!! THE CLUTCHEST YANKEE EVER!!!

[TheGameHHH]

giambi just fucked me out of a lester win, if they lose this game i might jump off a bridge

[Doctor Z]

Meet you there... Whatta ya thinkin', GW?

[TheGameHHH]

Meet you there... Whatta ya thinkin', GW?

brooklyn, i just like it better

[badorties]

brooklyn, i just like it better

more romantic ... who wouyld want to wash up in washington heights

[Doctor Z]

Well, I was just thinking y'know... for convenience sake.

It's closer.

[TheGameHHH]

more romantic ... who wouyld want to wash up in washington heights

absolutely, i was even thinking me and Z could hold hands while we jumped

[Doctor Z]

Whaddo I look like, some kind of a GAY?

(Brooklyn Bridge in 20)

[Doctor Z]

You know what this game needs? A little bit of gooood old fashioned non-save Mariano.

[Doctor Z]

PS - I'm GUARANTEEING A LOSS right now.
3-2 Sox, Final.

Anyone wanna throw some money down?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

maybe the MLB can have 2 K-Rods

[TheGameHHH]

at least Nady gives a shit

[Doctor Z]

I'm leaving work now to head to the bridge. You better not be late.

[TheGameHHH]

I'm leaving work now to head to the bridge. You better not be late.

wait, i need a few hours, booking a flight and all takes time. but they might not even lose

[Doctor Z]

Oh I'm jumping, win or lose.

Whatta you think, double play here?

[Kevin]

Paps is no Mariano.

[Doctor Z]

WEE!!! ONLY 6 GAMES OUT INSTEAD OF 8!

See you at the bridge.

[TheGameHHH]

wow they won

[Kevin]

At least we didnt get swept in the final Yankee stadium Series, by these fags

[PD]

At least we didnt get swept in the final Yankee stadium Series, by these fags

the giambino bailed you out.

[Doctor Z]

I love how the network refuses to formally acknowledge that the season is over (obviously company policy, understandably so)... But then they clearly suggest it when they say repeatedly "This is the last Yankees/Red Sox game at The Stadium."

[JerseyRich]

Well I'm glad it was Pappelboner that gave up the final hit...

That takes the sting out of the series loss.

[brettmojo]

<object width="425" height="344">

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/q-6iP3T0P28&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>
These videos are always the greatest ones.

They won today? Oh. Good for them.

[brettmojo]

Well I'm glad it was Pappelboner that gave up the final hit...

That takes the sting out of the series loss.
I've never seriously wished bodily harm on another player, other than Bonds, like I do Paddleass. That gay fucking cock sucker face he puts on before he throws the pitch makes me want to smash his skull in with a jagged cinder block.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I've never seriously wished bodily harm on another player, other than Bonds, like I do Paddleass. That gay fucking cock sucker face he puts on before he throws the pitch makes me want to smash his skull in with a jagged cinder block.

Yeah like a skinny joba.

[JerseyRich]

Yeah like a skinny joba.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/revmyspace2/graphics/Misc/Funny/0_funny_oh_no_you_didnt.gif

[Dan 'Hampton]

Yeah I did.

[brettmojo]

Yeah like a skinny joba.
http://images.ballhype.com/uploads/photos_large/2008/03/07/papelbon.jpghttp://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/10/26/alg_sox-papelbon.jpg
http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//BDD_JP_danceshirt_3.1.08.jpg

Fuh. Lay. Mean.

[Doctor Z]

How can you forget this class act -

http://files.blog-city.com/files/J05/139396/p/f/papdance.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/28/sports/28papelbon.2.190.jpg

[JimmieHats]

I've never seriously wished bodily harm on another player, other than Bonds, like I do Paddleass. That gay fucking cock sucker face he puts on before he throws the pitch makes me want to smash his skull in with a jagged cinder block.

Tell us how you really feel, brett.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hey! Look! It's Carl Pavano! And he's.. pitching!

[Doctor Z]

Yeah, where's this guy been for the last 4 years?

[Doctor Z]

As amazing as it sounded at the time, Pudge for Farnsworth has not panned out AT ALL...

The dude's hitting below the mendoza line and has ONE... count it, ONE RBI as a Yankee. He looks absolutely horrendous at the plate. And behind the plate, Molina calls a better game and has a better arm. Farnsworth may actually have had more value than we've gotten out of Pudge.

[Doctor Z]

Why the hell isn't Girardi using Joba here?

Oh, right...

[TheGameHHH]

pavano pretty much spun a gem tonight, i like how he's auditioning for a new job and finally actually performing

[HBox]

pavano pretty much spun a gem tonight, i like how he's auditioning for a new job and finally actually performing

Hell, I'm up for a 5 and 50 deal now.

[Doctor Z]

Srsly though... They did mention a 1-year club option, though it's a huge amount. What if he does nothing but pitch well for the rest of the season? ...It's a scary thought, but if the guy performs, how do you let him go?

[Kevin]

Hell, I'm up for a 5 and 50 deal now.

DEAL! SEAL IT NOW BEFORE IT GOES ANY HIGHER!!!

[JerseySean]

DEAL! SEAL IT NOW BEFORE IT GOES ANY HIGHER!!!

This guy is gonna get 5-6 milliion to piutch next year if he can hold on another month. Amazing

[Tenbatsuzen]

Srsly though... They did mention a 1-year club option, though it's a huge amount. What if he does nothing but pitch well for the rest of the season? ...It's a scary thought, but if the guy performs, how do you let him go?

If Pettite retires, it's something they have to seriously give thought to.

If Pavano stays strong for the rest of the year, I don't have any issue with him getting a one year deal.

[Doctor Z]

Just when Mo was thinking he might have a day off...

[TheGameHHH]

If Pettite retires, it's something they have to seriously give thought to.

If Pavano stays strong for the rest of the year, I don't have any issue with him getting a one year deal.

you went nuts when we were all talking about the fate of girardis job yet you think they might bring back a man who literally robbed the franchise of 40 million dollars and has shown from day 1 he doesnt want to be a yankee? ok

[Tenbatsuzen]

you went nuts when we were all talking about the fate of girardis job yet you think they might bring back a man who literally robbed the franchise of 40 million dollars and has shown from day 1 he doesnt want to be a yankee? ok

Got any other options for pitching next year if Pettite retires? Burnett?

[TheGameHHH]

Got any other options for pitching next year if Pettite retires? Burnett?

Burnett....Sheets?

The rotation should go (if Pettitte retires) Sabathia, Wang, Joba, Moose, Hughes

[Doctor Z]

Wait, lemme get this straight here... Are we about to give up the lead and lose a game that we led 6-2? Oh ok, thought so. Just making sure.

[Kevin]

Cano cant be here next year. i am tierd of his awful not give a shit play. i dont care what his ability is, get him out.

[Doctor Z]

5-4-3 or 6-4-3?

[Doctor Z]

And A-ROD SHOCKS THE WORLD! 5-3 DOUBLE PLAY! CUT THE 4 RIGHT OUT!


We led this game 6-2. That's all I can say.

[Kevin]

And A-ROD SHOCKS THE WORLD! 5-3 DOUBLE PLAY! CUT THE 4 RIGHT OUT!


We led this game 6-2. That's all I can say.



Blasphamer, AROD is Clutch, LOOK AT THE STATS. DONT WATCH ANY GAMES. LOOK AT THE STATS.

[lleeder]

I'm so angry right now words can't begin to express it. I like how they say sunday's pitching match up is a good one. Pettite will get rocked. I can't believe I had visions of a sweep in my head after the 6th. Please let this team just lose 10 straight and finish off this waste of a season.

[TheGameHHH]

I'm so angry right now words can't begin to express it. I like how they say sunday's pitching match up is a good one. Pettite will get rocked. I can't believe I had visions of a sweep in my head after the 6th. Please let this team just lose 10 straight and finish off this waste of a season.

you need to do what i did, come to peace with them not playing in october. everything becomes a little easier when you realize you dont have to get excited cause the games dont matter. just start looking for bright spots and hopefuls for next season, like a full year of Nady for instance. thats something to get excited about.