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Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:25 PM
I honestly don't give a shit who went to Bobby Merceur's funeral. Was it classy and respectful that Jeter and Pettitte showed up? Absolutely, and I really wouldn't expect anything less from them. But if I'm Xavier Nady here's what I'm thinking, 'Hmmmmmm, some guy i don't know that once played for this organization died. Do I get up and take a flight at 4am to go to a funeral for some guy I don't know? Or do I stay back and rest up for a big game and try and help this team make a playoff push?' If I'm Nady, I'm choosing the later option. I'm sorry, but what Jeter and Pettitte did was above and beyond, not the standard.

Not really talking about Nady or even the young guys, but guys like Arod who have been here for a while, and Mussina and Rivera, who knew him personally from him doing the games and being in the clubhouse, should have gone.

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 04:27 PM
well that works for nady who just got to the yanks


but what about posada, mo, and other long time yankees and career yankees ??

Posada is recovering from surgery and isn't traveling.

Joba was in Tampa.

Melky, Mo, and Cano hardly speak English.

A-Rod's a fucking nut.

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 04:28 PM
Not really talking about Nady or even the young guys, but guys like Arod who have been here for a while, and Mussina and Rivera, who knew him personally from him doing the games and being in the clubhouse, should have gone.

Wasn't Mussina pitching the game of Murcer's funeral?

spadanko
08-11-2008, 04:28 PM
I was listening to Michael Kay today because the Met game was on, and i was in my car, so i flipped from the Met game to him..

perfect example of the crappy state of this team.. Yankees sent a jet to Texas to pick up Yankees who wanted to go to the Bobby Mercer funeral..


2 fucking Yankees went.. Jeter and Pettite. Besides the coaches. That right there show that most of this team just does not give a shit about team a baseball. Its a Me Me oriented team, and it shows in big spots and with their sloppy play..

I had heard something about this the other day. IN the words of chris russo "bad job"

The vets should have gone. A-rod, Mo, Jorgie, Abreu, Moose, Cano.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Wasn't Mussina pitching the game of Murcer's funeral?

Don't think so, but maybe..

Edit: You are right.. That excuses him.

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 04:32 PM
Wasn't Mussina pitching the game of Murcer's funeral?

Yea, I believe he was though im not 100% certain.

So again, who cares who went to Bobby's funeral? The Yanks sent enough representatives. Something tells me if Bobby was given a choice between having players at his funeral or in Texas preparing for a game and a playoff push, he'd much rather have those guys at the ball park getting ready to play a game. Posada's not with the team so whatever. As for A-Rod, in my mind he's just like Nady. I'd rather have him prepping for a game.

So really kev your main gripe is with Mo. I guess if you wanna take it up with him you can but I highly doubt that Mo not attending this funeral makes the whole team have a me first attitude and/or care less about winning.

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 04:35 PM
fucking melky.


shoulda gone to the funeral.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:35 PM
Is it bad that i was expecting them not to score there?

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Yea, I believe he was though im not 100% certain.

So again, who cares who went to Bobby's funeral? The Yanks sent enough representatives. Something tells me if Bobby was given a choice between having players at his funeral or in Texas preparing for a game and a playoff push, he'd much rather have those guys at the ball park getting ready to play a game. Posada's not with the team so whatever. As for A-Rod, in my mind he's just like Nady. I'd rather have him prepping for a game.

So really kev your main gripe is with Mo. I guess if you wanna take it up with him you can but I highly doubt that Mo not attending this funeral makes the whole team have a me first attitude and/or care less about winning.

Come on game. More than 2 fucking Yankees should have been there. And this team absolutely has become a Me 1st team.

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 04:39 PM
Come on game. More than 2 fucking Yankees should have been there. And this team absolutely has become a Me 1st team.

No, they shouldn't have. Going to a funeral is absolutely a choice, not a requirement. It was a game day, I don't see the problem with it. Maybe I could see your side if this was an off day or in the off season. But game day, in season. It's your choice and I couldn't care less what you do.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:39 PM
COME ON SIDNEY, Each out is one step closer to that BLT Fries, and 30 grams of coke (did we settle on the coke?)

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 04:41 PM
COME ON SIDNEY, Each out is one step closer to that BLT Fries, and 30 grams of coke (did we settle on the coke?)

no we didn't, you said 30 pack then i countered with 30 grams. i really think we need to stay with the grams.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:42 PM
no we didn't, you said 30 pack then i countered with 30 grams. i really think we need to stay with the grams.

20 grams and a 12 pack.. deal?

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 04:43 PM
20 grams and a 12 pack.. deal?

done..........and as i type this he lets up a 2 run bomb

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:44 PM
done..........and as i type this he lets up a 2 run bomb

We may need to go back to 30 grams plus the 12 pack.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 04:58 PM
The only Edge Jeter has this year, is to bounce into rally killing double plays.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 05:56 PM
This team Eats a dick.

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 05:57 PM
This team Eats a dick.

like i said in spring training


this team will not make the playoffs as long as girardi is managing

so far year one is looking good

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 05:58 PM
This team Eats a dick.

yes, yes they do

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 05:59 PM
This team Eats a dick.

yes, yes they do

but what kind ???

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 06:31 PM
but what kind ???

who cares what kind of dick they suck? man, you are SO gay

figures comming from a Mets fan

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 06:32 PM
who cares what kind of dick they suck? man, you are SO gay

figures comming from a Mets fan



inquiring minds wanna know

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 06:38 PM
inquiring minds wanna know......so we can batch to them later

fixed that for you

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 06:43 PM
fixed that for you

oooohhh thanks

i knew i could count on you

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 06:44 PM
this'll prob get turned into a mod quote but i'd let david wright fuck me in the ass for a world series victory

Kevin
08-11-2008, 06:49 PM
this'll prob get turned into a mod quote but i'd let david wright fuck me in the ass for a world series victory

Does it really take a word series victory?

cougarjake13
08-11-2008, 06:52 PM
Does it really take a word series victory?

prob not

a post season berth then ??

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 07:58 PM
prob not

a post season berth then ??

explains last year's collapse

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 08:01 PM
the problem with this team is the following...

1) Injuries.
2) A young manager who is still learning.
3) Young talent who didn't pan out and/or got injured.
A distant fourth - 4) Hank.

My whole theory back when the Johan discussion was going on is that they wanted too much from the Yankees. In hindsight, maybe not. Who knows.

Fact of the matter is, I can accept this team not making the playoffs strictly because of how bad the injuries have been and it's affected team morale.

For all know, fuckin' Pavano is gonna come back like Rowengartner and lead us to the promised land.

TheGameHHH
08-11-2008, 08:16 PM
the problem with this team is the following...

1) Injuries.
2) A young manager who is still learning.
3) Young talent who didn't pan out and/or got injured.
A distant fourth - 4) Hank.

My whole theory back when the Johan discussion was going on is that they wanted too much from the Yankees. In hindsight, maybe not. Who knows.

Fact of the matter is, I can accept this team not making the playoffs strictly because of how bad the injuries have been and it's affected team morale.

For all know, fuckin' Pavano is gonna come back like Rowengartner and lead us to the promised land.

i've said it like 4 times already in this thread, mostly in April and May, but this could have been a year where they take a small step backward in order to take two steps forward. it looks that way for now and truth be told im not angry with the future we have.

Tenbatsuzen
08-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Even if IPK is as big of an asshole as people is making him out to be, if Phil comes back, that gives us a young rotation of Joba, Phil, and CMW. Moose looks like he's got one more year left. Andy's probably done.

I can hold out for next year to re-shuffle the team and see what happens.

Kevin
08-11-2008, 08:38 PM
I blame the departure of BDC on this.. Maybe he just willed the Yankees to play well down the stretch with his posts.

Knowledged_one
08-12-2008, 04:08 AM
Come on game. More than 2 fucking Yankees should have been there. And this team absolutely has become a Me 1st team.

Dont you mean "we" firsts?

And i had Perkins pitching for me last night in my fantasy league

Kevin
08-12-2008, 08:41 AM
Dont you mean "we" firsts?

And i had Perkins pitching for me last night in my fantasy league

If it was We first, that woulda been great.


And why wouldn't you think Perkins pitches well, unknown pitcher Vs the Yankees?? Recipe for success.

Knowledged_one
08-12-2008, 08:54 AM
If it was We first, that woulda been great.


And why wouldn't you think Perkins pitches well, unknown pitcher Vs the Yankees?? Recipe for success.

I meant it along the lines of the "we" sayers, as in are you all the fans "me" firsters also

Just being my persnickity "we" in reference to the team self

TheGameHHH
08-12-2008, 04:23 PM
good thing Damon got the night off last night, the last thing they need is leadoff home runs.

Kevin
08-12-2008, 05:55 PM
That was very ClutchRodian!

hammersavage
08-12-2008, 07:24 PM
Hey, you stole our bullpen!!! -mets

Kevin
08-12-2008, 08:25 PM
If its one thing that i always say..

That Arod is always so clutch.. How does he do it!

RingWraith
08-12-2008, 08:39 PM
If its one thing that i always say..

That Arod is always so clutch.. How does he do it!


Like I always say: Everyone's due!

Doctor Z
08-13-2008, 06:34 AM
http://www.gotmelk.com/uploads/MooseRobbed.jpg

Kevin
08-13-2008, 08:49 AM
http://www.gotmelk.com/uploads/MooseRobbed.jpg

Eh, i would liked for him to get the win, but as long as the team, WE got the win, that is all WE care about. By WE i mean the team.

Doctor Z
08-13-2008, 09:01 AM
The team doesn't count anymore. If anything positive happens this season, it would've been nice to at least see Moose get his 20 wins. Not gonna happen now though. He's been screwed out of wins too many time this year. Probably end with another 19.

Knowledged_one
08-13-2008, 11:16 AM
The team doesn't count anymore. If anything positive happens this season, it would've been nice to at least see Moose get his 20 wins. Not gonna happen now though. He's been screwed out of wins too many time this year. Probably end with another 19.

I agree with you. It used to happen all the time with the Orioles as well

Mussina may end up being the best pitcher to not make it into the HOF

Kevin
08-13-2008, 11:21 AM
Looks like they are back to eating dick again. And that was a strike.

Kevin
08-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Arod. Back to normal.

TheGameHHH
08-13-2008, 12:10 PM
on the bright side, we'll probably see Hughes a little earlier than expected.

this team just doesn't seem to care. im sure they do but their play certainly doesn't reflect it. Abraham had a funny line in his blog today he said, "thats odd, usually Melky and Cano play poorly individually, but they teamed up there on that pop fly." at least i can laugh at these guys.

maybe we're gearing up for another 1980's-early 90's run.

Kevin
08-13-2008, 12:13 PM
Did that team not give a shit and watch no film so every pitcher that they havent seen much of, dominates them?

Knowledged_one
08-13-2008, 12:34 PM
on the bright side, we'll probably see Hughes a little earlier than expected.

this team just doesn't seem to care. im sure they do but their play certainly doesn't reflect it. Abraham had a funny line in his blog today he said, "thats odd, usually Melky and Cano play poorly individually, but they teamed up there on that pop fly." at least i can laugh at these guys.

maybe we're gearing up for another 1980's-early 90's run.

Holy shit, game must be trying to channel some BDC as he just quoted the Great Peter Abraham and his one millllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllion blog hits per day

Anything for a win huh fellas

Kevin
08-13-2008, 12:43 PM
Miss BDC

Knowledged_one
08-13-2008, 12:45 PM
Miss BDC

This thread would be close to 200 pages if he was still here

Kevin
08-13-2008, 12:55 PM
This thread would be close to 200 pages if he was still here


This thread died when he left.

Doctor Z
08-13-2008, 12:59 PM
Well, the good news is, we went 3-7 on that road trip.

ChrisTheCop
08-13-2008, 01:06 PM
Leave it to Dr Z to bring the good news.

TheGameHHH
08-13-2008, 01:59 PM
Holy shit, game must be trying to channel some BDC as he just quoted the Great Peter Abraham and his one millllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllion blog hits per day

Anything for a win huh fellas

or maybe I am BDC and was him all along.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? makes you think. i bet i just blew your mind

Tenbatsuzen
08-13-2008, 02:32 PM
or maybe I am BDC and was him all along.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? makes you think. i bet i just blew your mind

No.

Not really.

cougarjake13
08-13-2008, 03:08 PM
Holy shit, game must be trying to channel some BDC as he just quoted the Great Peter Abraham and his one millllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllion blog hits per day

Anything for a win huh fellas

or maybe I am BDC and was him all along.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? makes you think. i bet i just blew your mind


well that would have been one long drawn out and dedicated board character

cougarjake13
08-13-2008, 03:09 PM
or maybe I am BDC and was him all along.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? makes you think. i bet i just blew your mind



and here i thought you were spoon

TheGameHHH
08-13-2008, 03:57 PM
well that would have been one long drawn out and dedicated board character

if you're gonna do something you gotta do it 100%

and there's no way i'd ever be a lousy, whiny, short-sighted board character like spoon. give me some credit.

cougarjake13
08-13-2008, 03:59 PM
if you're gonna do something you gotta do it 100%

and there's no way i'd ever be a lousy, whiny, short-sighted board character like spoon. give me some credit.

well he'd been the half assed board character

Gabe Rahamlincoln
08-13-2008, 05:11 PM
I, for one, am psyched.

cougarjake13
08-14-2008, 05:40 PM
I, for one, am psyched.



hmmm

i thought it was

babe raham lincoln


oh well

TheGameHHH
08-14-2008, 05:47 PM
hmmm

i thought it was

babe raham lincoln


oh well

no, its babe rahamlincoln's gay brother, gabe rahamlincoln

well played sir

spadanko
08-14-2008, 06:09 PM
Cole going to college

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/first-round-pick-gerrit-cole-opts-for-college-over-yankees/

Kevin
08-14-2008, 06:11 PM
Cole going to college

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/first-round-pick-gerrit-cole-opts-for-college-over-yankees/

Yea, saw that. Why not? This has been a year of shitty Yankee news. SO I am not surprised.

Kevin
08-14-2008, 06:12 PM
I think the way the Yankees have totally mis handled their young pitchers this year, may have scared them off.

Babe Rahamlincoln
08-14-2008, 06:14 PM
no, its babe rahamlincoln's gay brother, gabe rahamlincoln

well played sir

You rang?

spadanko
08-15-2008, 11:04 AM
The New York Post reports that the Yankees will demote Melky Cabrera to Triple-A and waive Richie Sexson prior to Friday's game.

According to the newspaper, Brett Gardner and Cody Ransom will be called up from Triple-A to fill their spots on the roster. Cabrera is hitting just .242/.296/.337 in 117 games and Sexson has hit .221/.321/.381 in 96 games overall, including .250/.371/.393 with the Yankees. Gardner has hit .296/.414/.422 with 37 steals in 94 games at Triple-A and could see significant action in center field depending on how the Yankees choose to deploy Johnny Damon, making him a worthwhile pickup in AL-only leagues. Aug. 15 - 2:55 pm et

damn Melky

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 11:08 AM
I think the way the Yankees have totally mis handled their young pitchers this year, may have scared them off.

elaborate on this one, how did they mis-handle Joba, Hughes and kennedy?

Knowledged_one
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
elaborate on this one, how did they mis-handle Joba, Hughes and kennedy?

well i will give you hughes and kennedy as not being mishandled (well maybe Kennedy should have been kept in the minors longer) but i dont think that they stretched Joba out long enough to be a starter, and i read a report where he may go back to the pen

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 11:13 AM
damn Melky

good, he shouldnt get any special treatment. he's been dreadful for most of the year. if youre not helping the team get your ass out of there.

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 11:19 AM
well i will give you hughes and kennedy as not being mishandled (well maybe Kennedy should have been kept in the minors longer) but i dont think that they stretched Joba out long enough to be a starter, and i read a report where he may go back to the pen

when your pitching is struggling and you have someone who's been dominant at the Triple A level, you have to bring him up and give him a shot. kennedy has had several chances to prove himself at the big league level this season and he hasn't done it. he's had no problem succeeding in Triple A. It does neither party any good to have him stay in AAA.

Joba went through a month and a half process of being stretched out, how long do u think it should have taken? and where was this silly report. the guy is a number 1 pitcher in the making. who would be dumb enough to claim he's going back to the pen? thats like saying i heard if the Yanks sign Sabathia in the off season he's probably going to be a set-up guy.

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 11:37 AM
This really emphasizes just how terrible a move it was to not trade for Santana in the off-season. 2 of the 3 guys the Twins wanted have now been relegated to AAA, and the only guy with some value is unproven and injury-prone. The 3 of them used to be worth Santana... Now Melky and Kennedy have absolutely no value on the market at all. No matter how you cut it (and I admit, I was in favor of the decision at the time), not trading Hughes, Kennedy, and Melky for Santana was a dreadful decision.

Knowledged_one
08-15-2008, 11:38 AM
when your pitching is struggling and you have someone who's been dominant at the Triple A level, you have to bring him up and give him a shot. kennedy has had several chances to prove himself at the big league level this season and he hasn't done it. he's had no problem succeeding in Triple A. It does neither party any good to have him stay in AAA.

Joba went through a month and a half process of being stretched out, how long do u think it should have taken? and where was this silly report. the guy is a number 1 pitcher in the making. who would be dumb enough to claim he's going back to the pen? thats like saying i heard if the Yanks sign Sabathia in the off season he's probably going to be a set-up guy.

Yankees may return Joba to bullpen
Posted: Friday August 15, 2008 05:14AM ET
Joba Chamberlain begins a throwing program today under the supervision of the Yankees' training and coaching staffs at Yankee Stadium. The two biggest questions surrounding the pitching face of the troubled franchise are: 1) Will the Yankees' place in the standings determine if Chamberlain returns? and 2) If he does come back, will he go back into the bullpen? The Yankees have discussed returning Chamberlain to the bullpen to reduce the stress on the right shoulder that was invaded by rotator cuff tendinitis and landed him on the disabled list Aug. 5.
New York Post

and you think its silly that a pitcher who had rotator cuff problems would return to the pen to reduce the stress on his rotator cuff? If he is a number 1 as you think then why rush him after an injury and possibly lose him for a huge chunk of time

and about kennedy all i was saying is that some players just need more seasoning in the minors till they progress and success in the minors at triple A is tough to translate in the NY as many players have problems pitching there. and the benefits are great when considering service time and years before free agency for one

and they hardly stretche him out for a month and a half he went from 2.1 innings pitched to 4.1 innings pitched to 6 innins pitched that over his first 3 starts and if you want to include his extra innings pitched from the pen till the start where he pitched 6 innings it was 22 days

Look i give you more credit and would expect more out of you then BDC but that is what your post amounted to. Do the research before you just throw out some kind of timeframe as it is something that can easily be checked

Knowledged_one
08-15-2008, 11:49 AM
This really emphasizes just how terrible a move it was to not trade for Santana in the off-season. 2 of the 3 guys the Twins wanted have now been relegated to AAA, and the only guy with some value is unproven and injury-prone. The 3 of them used to be worth Santana... Now Melky and Kennedy have absolutely no value on the market at all. No matter how you cut it (and I admit, I was in favor of the decision at the time), not trading Hughes, Kennedy, and Melky for Santana was a dreadful decision.

Ahh then here is the question if the Yankees sign Sabathia to the same amount the Mets gave Santana would the Yankees come out as winners in the whole situation?

Kevin
08-15-2008, 12:04 PM
elaborate on this one, how did they mis-handle Joba, Hughes and kennedy?

Its mostly this bring Kennedy up bring Kennedy down. Then not having a set plan for Joba when the season started.

As much as people say how bad Kennedy pitched Vs the Angels, i kinda agreed with his comments that he really did not pitch to badly.

Alot of the hits he got was bloopers that were placed differntly or that Damon coulld not get to.

The Kid pitched against what is right now the best team in baseball, in the Angels. Give him more than 1 start vs the Angels. Don''t send him down right after. I think they really have botched Kennedy.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 12:07 PM
This really emphasizes just how terrible a move it was to not trade for Santana in the off-season. 2 of the 3 guys the Twins wanted have now been relegated to AAA, and the only guy with some value is unproven and injury-prone. The 3 of them used to be worth Santana... Now Melky and Kennedy have absolutely no value on the market at all. No matter how you cut it (and I admit, I was in favor of the decision at the time), not trading Hughes, Kennedy, and Melky for Santana was a dreadful decision.

Right now it does so, but you have to give more time then less than a full year. And its not like Santana has been lights out either. His era is good, but that is the NL.

You have to give Kennedy and Hughes at least another year or two, to deem them busts. They are 21 and 23 years old.

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 12:12 PM
I still think Hughes can be a solid pitcher (not necessarily an ace), but I'm sorry... I've seen absolutely NOTHING promising from Kennedy that would lead me to believe he'll ever be worth shit in the majors.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 12:17 PM
I still think Hughes can be a solid pitcher (not necessarily an ace), but I'm sorry... I've seen absolutely NOTHING promising from Kennedy that would lead me to believe he'll ever be worth shit in the majors.

Well last year when he came in just a youngster and was allowed to breath and not have so much pressure in him, he looked pretty good.

Yanks put WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much pressure on these kids. Especially after they were not dealt for Santana.

They should have smoothed these kids in as 4th 5th starter for a year or two, and have a solid 1 2 3 with a top no doubt #1 ace.

They had Wang, who is a #2 in my opinion. Andy who who knows what you can get from him, and was expecting NOTHING out of Moose.

You can't put the pressure of an entire franchise like the Yankees, on 2 kids.

Especially with an over 200mil payroll.

This was handled as horribly as it could have been handled.

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 12:21 PM
Yankees may return Joba to bullpen
Posted: Friday August 15, 2008 05:14AM ET
Joba Chamberlain begins a throwing program today under the supervision of the Yankees' training and coaching staffs at Yankee Stadium. The two biggest questions surrounding the pitching face of the troubled franchise are: 1) Will the Yankees' place in the standings determine if Chamberlain returns? and 2) If he does come back, will he go back into the bullpen? The Yankees have discussed returning Chamberlain to the bullpen to reduce the stress on the right shoulder that was invaded by rotator cuff tendinitis and landed him on the disabled list Aug. 5.
New York Post

and you think its silly that a pitcher who had rotator cuff problems would return to the pen to reduce the stress on his rotator cuff? If he is a number 1 as you think then why rush him after an injury and possibly lose him for a huge chunk of time

and about kennedy all i was saying is that some players just need more seasoning in the minors till they progress and success in the minors at triple A is tough to translate in the NY as many players have problems pitching there. and the benefits are great when considering service time and years before free agency for one

and they hardly stretche him out for a month and a half he went from 2.1 innings pitched to 4.1 innings pitched to 6 innins pitched that over his first 3 starts and if you want to include his extra innings pitched from the pen till the start where he pitched 6 innings it was 22 days

Look i give you more credit and would expect more out of you then BDC but that is what your post amounted to. Do the research before you just throw out some kind of timeframe as it is something that can easily be checked

when u said back to the bullpen i thought you meant starting next year on his return, not to end this year. so u really didnt clarify and i didnt fully understand what u meant.

now from the time he began his stretch out, the night of May 20th, to the first time he went 7 full innings, July 25th, is roughly over two months. it kind of all depends on where you stand. 5 innings is a start, but the first time he threw 5 innings would you say he was fully stretched out? i wouldnt. i think the 7 inning game against the Red Sox was the first true time his arm was stretched out and used in a full starters role. that was just over two months.

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 12:23 PM
Well last year when he came in just a youngster and was allowed to breath and not have so much pressure in him, he looked pretty good.

Yanks put WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much pressure on these kids. Especially after they were not dealt for Santana.

They should have smoothed these kids in as 4th 5th starter for a year or two, and have a solid 1 2 3 with a top no doubt #1 ace.

They had Wang, who is a #2 in my opinion. Andy who who knows what you can get from him, and was expecting NOTHING out of Moose.

You can't put the pressure of an entire franchise like the Yankees, on 2 kids.

Especially with an over 200mil payroll.

This was handled as horribly as it could have been handled.

truthfully, i blame the media way more then i blame the Yankees (i.e. Girardi and Cashman). I never once really saw them pressure Joba, Hughes or kennedy in any way. I did however see the media put constant pressure on them

Kevin
08-15-2008, 05:20 PM
This team continues to suck in clutch spots, and Girardi continues to make some head scratching moves..

Why in the blue hell was Gardner now bunting there?

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 05:23 PM
elaborate on this one, how did they mis-handle Joba, Hughes and kennedy?

they turned them into the yankees 2000's version of generation K

Kevin
08-15-2008, 05:24 PM
they turned them into the yankees 2000's version of generation K

Its way too early to deem them those busts.

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 05:28 PM
Joba went through a month and a half process of being stretched out, how long do u think it should have taken? and where was this silly report. the guy is a number 1 pitcher in the making. who would be dumb enough to claim he's going back to the pen? thats like saying i heard if the Yanks sign Sabathia in the off season he's probably going to be a set-up guy.



are you nuts, has the heat over there gotten to you ??

thats no where near the same

sabathia has 7 1/2 yrs of proven success as a ML starter

what has joba done other than show he's been a good to great bullpen arm in the majors ??

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 05:29 PM
Its way too early to deem them those busts.

true and joba is filling the izzy role nicely, esp if they move him back to the pen


hughes and kennedy are def looking like wilson and pulsipher

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 05:34 PM
are you nuts, has the heat over there gotten to you ??

thats no where near the same

sabathia has 7 1/2 yrs of proven success as a ML starter

what has joba done other than show he's been a good to great bullpen arm in the majors ??

tell me you aren't serious........first, i know what sabathia has done the comment was made in jest.

second, i know you spend more time watching Yankees baseball then u do your team so ill ask you. obviously his sample size is small but ANYBODY in their right mind can tell you Joba has the stuff to be a quality top end starter if not more. you dont think he's shown he has the ability to be a good to great ML starter? I know the Yankees themselves believe that, the media that covers them believes that, their fans believe that. Not only that, getting MLB Extra Innings i am privy to many other announcers and sports broadcasters across the league and almost every single one of them has said Joba has shown he has that ability. Now is that the be all end all of it? Absolutely not, but the kid's got the stuff drop the hate.

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 05:39 PM
Ahh then here is the question if the Yankees sign Sabathia to the same amount the Mets gave Santana would the Yankees come out as winners in the whole situation?




it depends on what futures melky , kennedy , hughes who ever was part of that trade have
and who has the better career from here on out betw santana and sabathia

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 05:48 PM
tell me you aren't serious........first, i know what sabathia has done the comment was made in jest.

second, i know you spend more time watching Yankees baseball then u do your team so ill ask you. obviously his sample size is small but ANYBODY in their right mind can tell you Joba has the stuff to be a quality top end starter if not more. you dont think he's shown he has the ability to be a good to great ML starter? I know the Yankees themselves believe that, the media that covers them believes that, their fans believe that. Not only that, getting MLB Extra Innings i am privy to many other announcers and sports broadcasters across the league and almost every single one of them has said Joba has shown he has that ability. Now is that the be all end all of it? Absolutely not, but the kid's got the stuff drop the hate.


lots of pitchers appear to have the stuff and them dont materialize into that, theres no hate involved
just not enough info to say anything one way or the other
he will be good to great but you just dont know yet

and i know you were prob kidding about sabathia but you threw up the comparison

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 06:00 PM
lots of pitchers appear to have the stuff and them dont materialize into that, theres no hate involved
just not enough info to say anything one way or the other
he will be good to great but you just dont know yet

and i know you were prob kidding about sabathia but you threw up the comparison

yea, i agree with you plenty of players have shown they have it but they don't materialize. but when i said what i said i was actually arguing a point that didn't even exist. i originally thought the plan was for him to go back to the pen next season, which i thought was literally insane given what he's shown. turns out that wasn't the case so the point was moot from the start.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 06:10 PM
This team is fucking disgraceful.

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 06:27 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/horseshack/.Pictures/YogiOffense.jpg

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 06:40 PM
yea, i agree with you plenty of players have shown they have it but they don't materialize. but when i said what i said i was actually arguing a point that didn't even exist. i originally thought the plan was for him to go back to the pen next season, which i thought was literally insane given what he's shown. turns out that wasn't the case so the point was moot from the start.



yeh but it was fun wasnt it

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 06:41 PM
yeh but it was fun wasnt it

i had the time of my life while it lasted

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 06:48 PM
i had the time of my life while it lasted

we'll have to do it again sometime

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 07:02 PM
huge spot for arod here

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 07:04 PM
holy shit, he came through

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 07:07 PM
holy shit, he came through

of course he did they're 9 games out

Kevin
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
of course he did they're 9 games out

You of all people should realize, no lead is safe.

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
You of all people should realize, no lead is safe.

yeh but 9 is 2 more than 7

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 07:11 PM
of course he did they're 9 games out

words hurt, i hope you realize that

Kevin
08-15-2008, 07:12 PM
yeh but 9 is 2 more than 7

Yea, with a full month and a half to go, instead of 8 days.

cougarjake13
08-15-2008, 07:13 PM
words hurt, i hope you realize that

truth hurts sometimes

not as much as 7 game blown leads but still

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 07:26 PM
This game is on a collision course for another non-save Mariano Rivera loss.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 07:28 PM
This game is on a collision course for another non-save Mariano Rivera loss.

DR Z, Bringing the positivity.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 07:37 PM
Well now..

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 07:42 PM
http://data.boomerang.nl/f/fake/audio/sickmicks/image/puking-0024bg.jpg

ChrisTheCop
08-15-2008, 07:44 PM
http://mybrewers.mlblogs.com/my_brewers/images/rmonkey1.jpg

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 07:49 PM
oh fuck you justin christan

ChrisTheCop
08-15-2008, 07:51 PM
http://mybrewers.mlblogs.com/my_brewers/images/rmonkey1.jpg

ChrisTheCop
08-15-2008, 07:58 PM
I havent seen Abe Lincoln this nervous since Mary Todd found a blonde hair in their bed.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:00 PM
Fucking Douchebag Giambi is like 200 with RISP.

And Fuck you Christian.

Doctor Z
08-15-2008, 08:02 PM
http://lightsout.onestop.net/noose.jpg

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:03 PM
I am going to Join Z and pronounce this team DONE.

TheGameHHH
08-15-2008, 08:17 PM
I am going to Join Z and pronounce this team DONE.

I'm joining you guys, its going to be difficult for me to watch games in September and trying to find positives for next year. though tonight i realized im very excited to have a full year of xavier nady next season, he hits the ball hard every time he's up.

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:20 PM
I'm joining you guys, its going to be difficult for me to watch games in September and trying to find positives for next year. though tonight i realized im very excited to have a full year of xavier nady next season, he hits the ball hard every time he's up.

Yea, he is def a 96-01 type of Yankee. Not a superstar but a good ball player. who does things right.

Snoogans
08-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Personally, I don't see what you guys are complaining about. If you ask me, this is the best Yankee team I've seen since 85

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Personally, I don't see what you guys are complaining about. If you ask me, this is the best Yankee team I've seen since 85

I would like to clarify that he originally said 95.

So that means the Yanks will make a big run for the WC then lose in the 1st round, but win 4 titles in 5 years. SWEET!

Snoogans
08-15-2008, 08:31 PM
I would like to clarify that he originally said 95.

So that means the Yanks will make a big run for the WC then lose in the 1st round, but win 4 titles in 5 years. SWEET!

it was a typo. I just hit the wrong key, relax there chief

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:33 PM
it was a typo. I just hit the wrong key, relax there chief

Liar.

Snoogans
08-15-2008, 08:33 PM
Liar.

Go protest with your fellow Serbs

Kevin
08-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Go protest with your fellow Serbs

Thems fighting words, you Brit.

Knowledged_one
08-16-2008, 05:48 AM
did the yankees get their first round pick signed? I know the Orioles got Matusz done with about nine hours to go

And i think 5 othe first round picks unsigned were represented by Scott Boras and i think the Yankees first round pick was a Boras guy. That guy is going to ruin baseball

Doctor Z
08-16-2008, 07:29 AM
Heading over to The Stadium for what might be my last time there, ever...

Quite sad, quite disturbing. Could care less about the outcome of the game, but I'm going to pay my final respects to the greatest ballpark to ever be shamelessly torn down.

TheGameHHH
08-16-2008, 09:51 AM
did the yankees get their first round pick signed? I know the Orioles got Matusz done with about nine hours to go

And i think 5 othe first round picks unsigned were represented by Scott Boras and i think the Yankees first round pick was a Boras guy. That guy is going to ruin baseball

no they didn't, the kid decided to lie to the Yanks about his interest and attend UCLA instead. Oddly enough this wasn't Boras' fault at all, the kid and his family blatantly lied.

TheGameHHH
08-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Heading over to The Stadium for what might be my last time there, ever...

Quite sad, quite disturbing. Could care less about the outcome of the game, but I'm going to pay my final respects to the greatest ballpark to ever be shamelessly torn down.

enjoy it man, i paid my final respects in June when i went home to Jersey and caught a game.

Dan 'Hampton
08-16-2008, 10:00 AM
Or he'd like to go to UCLA. Better than Scranton for sure.

Kevin
08-16-2008, 10:26 AM
You would think that this manager would break up the 2 least clutch tandum this year in baseball.

Arod and Giambi both hit in the low 200's with RISP.

TheGameHHH
08-16-2008, 10:31 AM
You would think that this manager would break up the 2 least clutch tandum this year in baseball.

Arod and Giambi both hit in the low 200's with RISP.

fortunately im blacked out today thanks to Fox, im spending the day outside. screw this noise

Kevin
08-16-2008, 10:33 AM
fortunately im blacked out today thanks to Fox, im spending the day outside. screw this noise

Bases loaded no outs, Arod K's looking and Giambi dp..

ChrisTheCop
08-16-2008, 02:57 PM
Heading over to The Stadium for what might be my last time there, ever...

Quite sad, quite disturbing. Could care less about the outcome of the game, but I'm going to pay my final respects to the greatest ballpark to ever be shamelessly torn down.

Picked a great day for it. Beautiful weather, and a nail biter with extra innings to make your last looks longer. And they won! Congrats.

I was thinking of Dr Z the whole time, screaming from his seats like Randy Quaid how much the yankees blow and that they dont deserve this stadium, only after 13 innings, walking out and sayin, "Did I tell ya?! Theyre goin all the way!!!!"

Doctor Z
08-16-2008, 04:08 PM
I realized as I was leaving that Brett Gardner might have the last ever walk-off hit in Yankee Stadium.

lleeder
08-17-2008, 09:36 AM
That was some shot.

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Kevin
08-17-2008, 09:37 AM
Anybody else see Nady as Paul O'Neill with a some more power?

TheGameHHH
08-17-2008, 09:44 AM
Anybody else see Nady as Paul O'Neill with a some more power?

not really, i have yet to see Nady toss a water cooler after he strikes out

lleeder
08-17-2008, 09:48 AM
Moose doesn't have it today. I think it might take more than 6 runs to win this one.

zildjian361
08-17-2008, 09:54 AM
Arod Xman this is gonna be a long one:happy:

Kevin
08-17-2008, 09:54 AM
not really, i have yet to see Nady toss a water cooler after he strikes out

Yea, he is much more low key.. But you know what i mean, play wise.. Pro hitter, good fielder, good arm.


As i type this, good job by Moose getting out of the jam with no runs.

lleeder
08-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Yea, he is much more low key.. But you know what i mean, play wise.. Pro hitter, good fielder, good arm.


As i type this, good job by Moose getting out of the jam with no runs.

Hopefully he can settle down now and cruise the rest of the game.

Kevin
08-17-2008, 10:10 AM
Can we please save some runs for Toronto?

Thank You.

TheGameHHH
08-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Can we please save some runs for Toronto?

Thank You.

u know what type of team this is, dont ask for things that wont happen. they wont score 11 total runs up in toronto.

Kevin
08-17-2008, 01:55 PM
Anyone catch stupid Sterling call the Cody Ransum Hr as Nady?

He went into his X marks the spot gimmick and everything. Then like 20 seconds after he goes, oh wait, that was Cody Ransum who hit that Hr..


Nady and Ransum, TWINS!

TheGameHHH
08-17-2008, 03:27 PM
Anyone catch stupid Sterling call the Cody Ransum Hr as Nady?

He went into his X marks the spot gimmick and everything. Then like 20 seconds after he goes, oh wait, that was Cody Ransum who hit that Hr..


Nady and Ransum, TWINS!

I've heard him do that twice this season with different players. Once he literally went crazy with his "A-Bomb, from A-Rod" chant when it was actually Abreu.

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 03:37 PM
so..........we still watching this team?

JPMNICK
08-19-2008, 03:57 PM
so..........we still watching this team?

i am about to tune in. this is the series they turn it around. they take 3/3 here and start the upward trend.

Kevin
08-19-2008, 04:15 PM
When will fucking Girardi realize that its fucking time to break up the least clutch Duo in baseball history. Giambi and Arod have just murderd this team. Esp Giambi. He NEVER gets a RISP hit. He is at like 190. Its 5th grade logic. BREAK THEM UP.

brettmojo
08-19-2008, 04:18 PM
so..........we still watching this team?

Till' kickoff occurs... :clap:

Doctor Z
08-19-2008, 04:28 PM
Another more-than-you-could-ever-hope-for pitching performance from a fill-in pitcher, and of course, we're gonna lose 2-1.

brettmojo
08-19-2008, 04:32 PM
Another more-than-you-could-ever-hope-for pitching performance from a fill-in pitcher, and of course, we're gonna lose 2-1.

I don't know. Rasner has flashes of greatness. He might pull one out tonight. Either way...

Sun, Sep 7 Dallas Cowboys @ Cleveland Browns (FOX) 3:15 PM :thumbup:

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 05:04 PM
i hate games like this, there goes the game tying home run

Doctor Z
08-19-2008, 05:04 PM
.MAN, OUR PITCHING TOTALLY SUCKS THIS YEAR!

Kevin
08-19-2008, 05:05 PM
i hate games like this, there goes the game tying home run

When your 4th and 5th hitters hve Aids, thats what you get.

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 05:06 PM
When your 4th and 5th hitters hve Aids, thats what you get.

theyre so clutch and you dont even know it

Kevin
08-19-2008, 05:09 PM
theyre so clutch and you dont even know it

Those 5ks combind were really clutch, when K's ae concerned.

Doctor Z
08-19-2008, 05:12 PM
Face it... A-Rod/Giambi is a deadlier 1-2 punch than Ortiz/Manny and Ruth/Gehrig COMBINED.

It's our pitching that sucks.

Look at Rasner... all not pitching a perfect game 'n shit.

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Those 5ks combind were really clutch, when K's ae concerned.

but i have stats, i dont care how many games you watch

Kevin
08-19-2008, 05:16 PM
but i have stats, i dont care how many games you watch

Arod hit 320 in Texas with risp pos when the team was out of it by June. THAT IS FUCKING CLUTCH!

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 05:27 PM
fuck you johnny damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brettmojo
08-19-2008, 05:29 PM
fuck you johnny damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

x2... Where have you gone Brett Gardner.

Kevin
08-19-2008, 05:34 PM
fuck you johnny damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aND FUCK YOU AROD YOU UNCLUTCH FAGGOT.

brettmojo
08-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Wow.

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Another more-than-you-could-ever-hope-for pitching performance from a fill-in pitcher, and of course, we're gonna lose 2-1.

apparently the second coming of Christ is alive and on our board. i had no idea you possessed these powers Z.

at least i got a save from Ryan tonight in fantasy

lleeder
08-19-2008, 05:43 PM
Can someone make me a Yankee coffin sig?

brettmojo
08-19-2008, 05:45 PM
Can someone make me a Yankee coffin sig?

I posted this on FBA a week ago.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8195/jjjhn1.jpg

Someone needs to throw a Yankee cap on it.

badorties
08-19-2008, 05:48 PM
fuck you johnny damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't know which was worse the failed catch or half-assed third stike a few innings before ... what a horrible signing

Doctor Z
08-19-2008, 05:48 PM
apparently the second coming of Christ is alive and on our board. i had no idea you possessed these powers Z.

at least i got a save from Ryan tonight in fantasy

Psychic powers? ...or just deductive reasoning?

This team is predictably pathetic.

cougarjake13
08-19-2008, 06:41 PM
i don't know which was worse the failed catch or half-assed third stike a few innings before ... what a horrible signing




much like most of the other moves they've made since the dynasty ended

Kevin
08-19-2008, 06:43 PM
much like most of the other moves they've made since the dynasty ended

It all started with Giambi.

cougarjake13
08-19-2008, 06:51 PM
It all started with Giambi.

yeh i was gonna start naming some of them but i wasnt sure what yankees fans would or would not have considered a failure


giambi -- mostly hasnt lived up to that contract
pavano- no explanation needed




whats your thoughts on these guys as a yankees ?? im sure there are others but im going with high profile guys with huge contracts


mussina
arod
sheffield
kevin brown
randy johnson



a few that have worked are wang, matsui, leiber

Kevin
08-19-2008, 06:56 PM
yeh i was gonna start naming some of them but i wasnt sure what yankees fans would or would not have considered a failure


giambi -- mostly hasnt lived up to that contract
pavano- no explanation needed




whats your thoughts on these guys as a yankees ?? im sure there are others but im going with high profile guys with huge contracts


mussina Good for the most part
arod bah
sheffield OK but very unclutch in the playoffs
kevin brown- Faggot
randy johnson- Disappointing



a few that have worked are wang, matsui, leiber

That is what i think

cougarjake13
08-19-2008, 06:59 PM
That is what i think



kinda how i thought most yankee fans would feel

TheGameHHH
08-19-2008, 07:44 PM
yeh i was gonna start naming some of them but i wasnt sure what yankees fans would or would not have considered a failure


giambi -- mostly hasnt lived up to that contract
pavano- no explanation needed




whats your thoughts on these guys as a yankees ?? im sure there are others but im going with high profile guys with huge contracts


mussina
arod
sheffield
kevin brown
randy johnson



a few that have worked are wang, matsui, leiber

Moose has been decent for the most part though i do feel his aura has abated their championship winning ways.

A-rod, i'd sign him a million times over and i still dont care what anybody says. my opinion will never change on this even if he strikes out in the bottom of the ninth when theyre down by one run with the bases loaded in game 7 of the world series.

Sheff.....though an asshole that guy showed up to the park everyday to play, thats all i ask for in a ball player. he was relatively quite most of his time in the Bronx, he only really spouted off after he left.

kevin brown can eat a fat bag of dicks and i hated his signing since day 1. i hated his contract with the dodgers, years before he even became a twinkle in the Bronx eye.

Randy johnson......i was def. pumped when they first got him because of how bad he had beaten them in the past. when i saw him throw his first game against boston i was even more excited, then it all went downhill. fuck him.

ralphbxny
08-19-2008, 07:53 PM
Ok...even now I have to give in and say its over. Pending a fuckin miracle...and I dont see one on the horizon! Put all these creeps through waivers and lets get some kids back!

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 04:23 AM
It all started with Giambi.

I would say Jeffrey Maier it just took a few years to catch up
or i blame Mussina
or the real blame goes to Cito Gaston for not pitching Mussina at the all star game in baltimore

Blame Cito Gaston

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 04:24 AM
aND FUCK YOU AROD YOU UNCLUTCH FAGGOT.

Dont make me summon the Dark Sith Lord Darth Abraham

Babe Rahamlincoln
08-20-2008, 06:11 AM
6.5 games is NOTHING! The Yanks have them Sox RIGHT where they want 'em!

badorties
08-20-2008, 06:34 AM
That is what i think

kinda how i thought most yankee fans would feel

i think mussina has been really good (almost great) ... everyone else not so much

Kevin
08-20-2008, 08:19 AM
I would say Jeffrey Maier it just took a few years to catch up
or i blame Mussina
or the real blame goes to Cito Gaston for not pitching Mussina at the all star game in baltimore

Blame Cito Gaston

I blame Cal Ripken Jr for the O's demise. He came in and won that one year, and had a good run, but ever since he had the audacity to break a hollowed Yankee record, it has been down hill from there.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 09:12 AM
I blame Cal Ripken Jr for the O's demise. He came in and won that one year, and had a good run, but ever since he had the audacity to break a hollowed Yankee record, it has been down hill from there.

Why must you hurt me so.

You know i was thinking the other day, just think what could have happened had the Yankees signed Brady Anderson instead of Bernie Williams when they were both free agents that year

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:15 AM
Why must you hurt me so.

You know i was thinking the other day, just think what could have happened had the Yankees signed Brady Anderson instead of Bernie Williams when they were both free agents that year

I think they were going to do an Albert Belle Steve Finly type of thing.

But Bernie called last minute and the rest is history.

TheMojoPin
08-20-2008, 09:22 AM
Man, this thread reeks like a suicide cult.

I know the Yanks have had an impressive run, but most of you are old enough to remember the shitty days of the 80's and early 90's, yes?

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:27 AM
Man, this thread reeks like a suicide cult.

I know the Yanks have had an impressive run, but most of you are old enough to remember the shitty days of the 80's and early 90's, yes?

Its not the the losing that bothers me, its the way they lose.

A.J.
08-20-2008, 09:32 AM
Man, this thread reeks like a suicide cult.

I know the Yanks have had an impressive run, but most of you are old enough to remember the shitty days of the 80's and early 90's, yes?

When you win you forget. Kind of like the new, jackass bandwagon Red Sox fans.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 09:35 AM
Its not the the losing that bothers me, its the way they lose.

Live the life of an Orioles fan and then come talk to me, i think its close to 11 straight losing years

JPMNICK
08-20-2008, 09:35 AM
Man, this thread reeks like a suicide cult.

I know the Yanks have had an impressive run, but most of you are old enough to remember the shitty days of the 80's and early 90's, yes?

i def remember, and hope it never comes to that again

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:42 AM
Live the life of an Orioles fan and then come talk to me, i think its close to 11 straight losing years

Not to sound pompous or privileged or anything. But its been so long that you are probably kinda numb to it. Not saying that you do not hate it and don't want to win. Its just that its been so long for us that you kinda forget how its like. And some of us are in our early to late 20's so we really never really knew how it was like. I started really paying attention to baseball during the 91 season. 2 crappy seasons as a Yankee fan, then it all started changing in 93.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 09:50 AM
Not to sound pompous or privileged or anything. But its been so long that you are probably kinda numb to it. Not saying that you do not hate it and don't want to win. Its just that its been so long for us that you kinda forget how its like. And some of us are in our early to late 20's so we really never really knew how it was like. I started really paying attention to baseball during the 91 season. 2 crappy seasons as a Yankee fan, then it all started changing in 93.

Its kinda funny you say that my older brother says the same about me with the redskins because i was 7 when they won their first title and enjoyed a long string of success with them while he grew up with bad skins teams. So i do see your point. What makes me angry and i have said it before that when free agents have the choice unless the Orioles overpay by an extreme amount they will choose either the Yankees or Red Sox or choose a team in a different division because the chances of making the playoffs are so much higher. I wish that the Orioles when they were in first (2 years ago maybe 3 years) that they had made the trade for Beckett and Lowell instead of just letting it go. But on the other hand they could have signed Pavano

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:59 AM
Its kinda funny you say that my older brother says the same about me with the redskins because i was 7 when they won their first title and enjoyed a long string of success with them while he grew up with bad skins teams. So i do see your point. What makes me angry and i have said it before that when free agents have the choice unless the Orioles overpay by an extreme amount they will choose either the Yankees or Red Sox or choose a team in a different division because the chances of making the playoffs are so much higher. I wish that the Orioles when they were in first (2 years ago maybe 3 years) that they had made the trade for Beckett and Lowell instead of just letting it go. But on the other hand they could have signed Pavano

Well it really only takes that one FA or player to come in and change that. For the Yankees it was Wade Boggs and Paul O'Neill. They came in and changed how things were done, by playing the game how it should be played. You could not even get a FA to even visit the Yankees before 93. They didn't want to pay in the Bronx, the team was bad, George, whatever. But it all changed when Boggs and O'Neill got here.

I think with the Sox it was Schilling. Some would say Manny or Ortiz, but i say Schilling. He was the one guy that turned them around as a franchise.

Babe Rahamlincoln
08-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Quit quitting on this team! My brother Gabe once said: "It ain't over till it's done." Then my other brother freed the slaves.

Have a few hotdogs and relax.

Kevin
08-20-2008, 10:08 AM
Miss Gabe.

TheGameHHH
08-20-2008, 10:16 AM
Its not the the losing that bothers me, its the way they lose.

i honestly couldnt have put it better if i wanted to. losing happens in sports, its bound to and it has to. but the way they lose ball games is an absolute killer, its completely unlike anything i have ever seen from them and that includes the late 80s and early 90s teams.

spadanko
08-20-2008, 10:20 AM
According to the New York Journal News, after working with catcher Ivan Rodriguez for one start last week Andy Pettitte "asked not to again."

No one has ever questioned Rodriguez's arm, but this isn't the first time that his pitch-calling has been criticized. The future Hall of Famer is hitting 8-for-35 (.229) since joining the Yankees.

TheGameHHH
08-20-2008, 10:22 AM
According to the New York Journal News, after working with catcher Ivan Rodriguez for one start last week Andy Pettitte "asked not to again."

No one has ever questioned Rodriguez's arm, but this isn't the first time that his pitch-calling has been criticized. The future Hall of Famer is hitting 8-for-35 (.229) since joining the Yankees.

they were absolutely awful together and i dont blame Pettitte one bit. if you watched that game you could tell there was no trust or chemistry.

Freitag
08-20-2008, 10:36 AM
Do you know what I feel like this is right now?

It's the main event of Wrestlemania. The submission move has been applied. We're reaching for the ropes, reaaaaaching...

And it's in that moment where the arm can either reach the ropes or tap out.

I'm usually very positive, but I don't feel good at all right now for this year.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 10:37 AM
they were absolutely awful together and i dont blame Pettitte one bit. if you watched that game you could tell there was no trust or chemistry.

miss kyle farnsworth

Freitag
08-20-2008, 10:46 AM
miss kyle farnsworth

It's funny you should say that. The NY Press was really hyping up how good the Yankees bullpen was and how Farnsworth had turned it around right before he was traded. When the Yankees traded Farnsworth, that's when everything started to fall apart.

TheGameHHH
08-20-2008, 11:16 AM
It's funny you should say that. The NY Press was really hyping up how good the Yankees bullpen was and how Farnsworth had turned it around right before he was traded. When the Yankees traded Farnsworth, that's when everything started to fall apart.

i like them trading farnsworth, i hate him. but girardi is misusing marte. he's a situational lefty, meaning he should usually face one batter. girardi has been running him out there for an inning plus when he's not meant to do that, then he lets up runs and screws the team. besides, farnsworth has been awful for detroit.

Gabe Rahamlincoln
08-20-2008, 11:45 AM
Kyle Farnsworth was clearly the glue that binded the Yankee clubhouse. Once he SUCCEEDED from the team, there was zero chemistry!

Freitag
08-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Where's your brother Fabian, Gabriel?

Gabe Rahamlincoln
08-20-2008, 11:50 AM
He died on Bunker Hill.

brettmojo
08-20-2008, 11:51 AM
Kyle Farnsworth was clearly the glue that binded the Yankee clubhouse. Once he SUCCEEDED from the team, there was zero chemistry!
There's been zero chemistry in that club house since they started dumping guys in there like Giambi, Brown, Sheffield, Johnson, Pudge, etc.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 12:03 PM
Pudge has had 35 AB's with the Yankees how do you figure he has been such an influence on the clubhouse chemistry

Gabe Rahamlincoln
08-20-2008, 12:04 PM
It almost seems like there's a CIVIL WAR going on within the Yankee clubhouse.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 12:07 PM
It almost seems like there's a CIVIL WAR going on within the Yankee clubhouse.

you need to emancipate that clubhouse my friend

brettmojo
08-20-2008, 12:11 PM
Pudge has had 35 AB's with the Yankees how do you figure he has been such an influence on the clubhouse chemistry
He's another hired gun. A guy that won't be around after this season. So is a guy like that gonna' add leadership or anything at all positive to the clubhouse atmosphere or is he just gonna' ride the string out until the end of the season?

I know he certainly hasn't been an influence on run production with only one RBI over that stretch.

Knowledged_one
08-20-2008, 12:13 PM
He's another hired gun. A guy that won't be around after this season. So is a guy like that gonna' add leadership or anything at all positive to the clubhouse atmosphere or is he just gonna' ride the string out until the end of the season?

I know he certainly hasn't been an influence on run production with only one RBI over that stretch.

BDC is that you?

Doctor Z
08-20-2008, 12:39 PM
no-name lefty = automatic loss

brettmojo
08-20-2008, 12:43 PM
no-name lefty = automatic loss
Yeah. It never fails. They struggle against pitchers they've never faced before. Where the fucking hell is there scouting?

TheGameHHH
08-20-2008, 05:31 PM
the yankees just won a game and scored 5 runs, thats odd.

lleeder
08-20-2008, 05:58 PM
no-name lefty = automatic loss

Your powers are fading.

brettmojo
08-20-2008, 07:17 PM
the yankees just won a game and scored 5 runs, thats odd.
Could be cause for excitement! Let's ask my dog...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/Joba/DSC02615.jpg

Joba. Are you excited? Think the Yanks might make the playoffs after all?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/Joba/DSC02619.jpg

Hmmm... I don't think he's enthused.

ralphbxny
08-20-2008, 09:19 PM
Just waned to post a couple pics I got of the stadium recently.

1. At Homerun Derby

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/thDSCF0206.jpg


2.From Plane on Mon

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/DSCF0069.jpg

3.From Plane Mon

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/DSCF0070.jpg

Tenbatsuzen
08-20-2008, 09:21 PM
That's a great shot, Ralph. I didn't realize how much larger the new place was going to be compared to the old place.

ChrisTheCop
08-20-2008, 09:39 PM
That's a great shot, Ralph. I didn't realize how much larger the new place was going to be compared to the old place.

where's the green monstah?

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:40 PM
where's the green monstah?

You should ask Bucholz, he knows it by heart from all the balls hit there off him.

ChrisTheCop
08-20-2008, 09:41 PM
You should ask Bucholz, he knows it by heart from all the balls hit there off him.

I didnt ask where arod's chin was.


(ps, they were in camden yahd mr jokey jokemaker)

Kevin
08-20-2008, 09:59 PM
I didnt ask where arod's chin was.


(ps, they were in camden yahd mr jokey jokemaker)

Edit

What Game is about to say next post, in a few minutes.

TheGameHHH
08-20-2008, 10:10 PM
I didnt ask where arod's chin was.


(ps, they were in camden yahd mr jokey jokemaker)

the point was clay sucks wherever he pitches............FACE

Dan 'Hampton
08-21-2008, 02:26 AM
He's no Ian Kennedy.

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 04:27 AM
Could be cause for excitement! Let's ask my dog...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/Joba/DSC02615.jpg

Joba. Are you excited? Think the Yanks might make the playoffs after all?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/Joba/DSC02619.jpg

Hmmm... I don't think he's enthused.

I told you BDC 2.0

Kevin
08-21-2008, 07:27 AM
I told you BDC 2.0

Miss BDC 1.0

Doctor Z
08-21-2008, 08:26 AM
Your powers are fading.

Clouded the future was.

TheGameHHH
08-21-2008, 10:49 AM
And so it appears the great Carl Pavano will start this Saturday. wow

Kevin
08-21-2008, 10:52 AM
And so it appears the great Carl Pavano will start this Saturday. wow

Who?

brettmojo
08-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Just waned to post a couple pics I got of the stadium recently.

1. At Homerun Derby

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/thDSCF0206.jpg


2.From Plane on Mon

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/DSCF0069.jpg

3.From Plane Mon

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/ralphbxny/DSCF0070.jpg

Wow that's nice. I gotta' try to make it to a game before it's over this year.

Miss BDC 1.0

???

And so it appears the great Carl Pavano will start this Saturday. wow
Wow x2.

Kevin
08-21-2008, 10:55 AM
???.

That one right there can not be explained.

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 12:27 PM
I know some here were talking about pudge being a type A free agent

but as Lee Corso says "Not so fast my friend" Pudge is naught but a Type B free agent

foodcourtdruide
08-21-2008, 12:43 PM
I know some here were talking about pudge being a type A free agent

but as Lee Corso says "Not so fast my friend" Pudge is naught but a Type B free agent

Would Farnsworth have been a Type A or B?

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 12:50 PM
From what i have done in a quick search there is no compensation for Farnsworth

Kevin
08-21-2008, 12:53 PM
How do you know he is a type b? His avg is pretty good.

TheMojoPin
08-21-2008, 12:57 PM
How do you know he is a type b? His avg is pretty good.

Please be kidding (about this making him class A)

Kevin
08-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Please be kidding (about this making him class A)

HE IS A YANKEE DAMMIT!!

They are ALL CLASS A FA!!

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 01:02 PM
How do you know he is a type b? His avg is pretty good.

god doing all this research on the yankees for yankee fans makes me feel a little bit BDCish

but you guys are good guys so here we go

From what i have read: Elias keeps the data underwraps but it deals with PA, AVG, OBP, HR, and RBI

and supposedly Pudges decline this year has caused him to slip down into a Type B free agent. Now if he catches fire over the last part of the season then he could move back up to Type A. Also the Yankees have to offer him arbitration and he has to turn it down i believe to be eligible for any kind of pick. So its really convoluted and i am betting the Yankees wont mind having him back to back up Posada

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 01:03 PM
HE IS A YANKEE DAMMIT!!

They are ALL CLASS A FA!!

now that they have a rod and i rod are they called the vowel rods collectively?

Kevin
08-21-2008, 01:03 PM
god doing all this research on the yankees for yankee fans makes me feel a little bit BDCish

but you guys are good guys so here we go

From what i have read: Elias keeps the data underwraps but it deals with PA, AVG, OBP, HR, and RBI

and supposedly Pudges decline this year has caused him to slip down into a Type B free agent. Now if he catches fire over the last part of the season then he could move back up to Type A. Also the Yankees have to offer him arbitration and he has to turn it down i believe to be eligible for any kind of pick. So its really convoluted and i am betting the Yankees wont mind having him back to back up Posada

Yankee= TYPE A.

Fuck research!

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 01:04 PM
Yankee= TYPE A.

Fuck research!

after all that work cant i at least get two snaps and a twist

Kevin
08-21-2008, 01:06 PM
after all that work cant i at least get two snaps and a twist

AFTER YOU SAY IT!

TYPE A!

Knowledged_one
08-21-2008, 01:12 PM
AFTER YOU SAY IT!

TYPE A!

Type A

Kevin
08-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Type A

http://www.victoryseeds.com/candystore/images/snaps_open.jpg

http://www.victoryseeds.com/candystore/images/snaps_open.jpg


http://www.simonjobling.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/with_a_twist_cover_300.jpg

TheGameHHH
08-21-2008, 04:07 PM
theres the sidney ponson i know.......why do i still watch this team?

Doctor Z
08-21-2008, 04:34 PM
Well, we took the first 2 games, so at least we come away with a series win so it's not the end of the w-- ohhhhh.... wait.

Kevin
08-21-2008, 04:42 PM
theres the sidney ponson i know.......why do i still watch this team?

NO BLT FRIES 20 grams of coke and a 12 pack for him tonight!

Kevin
08-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Haliday sucks and we have shown to be a great clucth gritty full of heart team, all year, so we will come back.

Babe Rahamlincoln
08-21-2008, 04:48 PM
Everyone stay calm. This is a strategic 10-run deficit. We've got this one in the bag!

TheGameHHH
08-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Everyone stay calm. This is a strategic 10-run deficit. We've got this one in the bag!

i like your gay brother better

badorties
08-21-2008, 04:52 PM
theres the sidney ponson i know.......why do i still watch this team?

i punched out ... good news is that i'll be at the last game on the 21st of september, and not worry scoring any pesky playoff tix

zildjian361
08-21-2008, 04:57 PM
:help::furious::drunk::wink:it's not over till its OVER:innocent::thumbup:

TheGameHHH
08-21-2008, 05:00 PM
i punched out ... good news is that i'll be at the last game on the 21st of september, and not worry scoring any pesky playoff tix

im envious that youll be there for the last game but theres no good news in not being able to get playoff tix

TheMojoPin
08-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Quite the illustrious sendoff for the ol' yard.

Kevin
08-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Quite the illustrious sendoff for the ol' yard.

The Magic is done in the old place, NEW MAGIC IN THE NEW ONE!

PERFECT TIMING On the house that Arod built.




































Unclutchly!