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Gritty
03-12-2008, 06:33 PM
I think this is new:

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1583143&vid=215625

fezident
03-12-2008, 07:22 PM
DAMN IT.
GOD F'ING DAMN IT.

I wanna know WHO the F is signing off on these special FX!! I'm getting reeeeally tired of seeing NOTHING but shitty CGI in every movie. These FX are so bad that I'm having a hard time even believing that they're "finished". This look like crappy videogame animation from 10 years ago. Horrible.

Unacceptable.
Totally unacceptable.

Fuck hollywood.

hammersavage
03-12-2008, 07:33 PM
nice! they also show lost boys 2 trailer!

Cry little sister
"Thou shall not fall"
Come, Come to your brother
"Thou shall not fly"
Unchain me sister
"Thou shall not steal"
Love is with your brother
"Thou shall not kill"

TheMojoPin
03-12-2008, 07:42 PM
Well, guess everyone is getting the big dumb movie they wanted the first one to be. You know it's a bad sign when a movie is this close to coming out and it has next to no hype and the trailer is obviously showing almost nothing but the big climax.

Franklyn
03-12-2008, 07:50 PM
Always worried about too much CGI. In comparison to the other movie i think this will be a better film. Ed Norton doesn't really disappoint me ever. That gives me the hope that Liv tyler took from me. I think Ed Norton and Jenifer Conilly from the first movie would have been great.

Gmann
03-12-2008, 10:58 PM
nice! they also show lost boys 2 trailer!

Cry little sister
"Thou shall not fall"
Come, Come to your brother
"Thou shall not fly"
Unchain me sister
"Thou shall not steal"
Love is with your brother
"Thou shall not kill"


WHY CANT THEY LEAVE GREAT MOVIES ALONE??!!!???

Isn't this about 10yrs too fucking late for a sequel ??

jonyrotn
03-12-2008, 11:27 PM
nice! they also show lost boys 2 trailer!

Cry little sister
"Thou shall not fall"
Come, Come to your brother
"Thou shall not fly"
Unchain me sister
"Thou shall not steal"
Love is with your brother
"Thou shall not kill"
:wacko: People are strange..:wacko: When you're a stranger..

jonyrotn
03-12-2008, 11:33 PM
DAMN IT.
GOD F'ING DAMN IT.

I wanna know WHO the F is signing off on these special FX!! I'm getting reeeeally tired of seeing NOTHING but shitty CGI in every movie. These FX are so bad that I'm having a hard time even believing that they're "finished". This look like crappy videogame animation from 10 years ago. Horrible.

Unacceptable.
Totally unacceptable.

Fuck hollywood.

I'm sorry, but I think your level of anger is inappropriate..You could probably knock it down a rung..Be more :smile:

Slumbag
03-13-2008, 02:26 AM
There is a lot of hype around this movie, and a lot of hate being put toward the first movie. I did not enjoy the previous Hulk film. People all around are saying how much better this one's going to be. This one has Ed Norton, Liv Tyler (meh) and Tim Roth, but the last one had Eric Bana, Jennifer Connolly and Nick Nolte (ALL amazing actors, as well). The director (Louis Letterrier, Unleashed ) has a different vision, but the previous director was Ang Lee, who is also fucking amazing. They say the CGI ruined the last one, but I think it looks exactly the same in this one. I don't know why there are such high hopes for this version, when the last one had everything going the same for it and was terrible.

fezident
03-13-2008, 03:13 AM
Always worried about too much CGI. .
It's not the amount.
It's the quality. Or lack thereof.

Does ANYONE think these effects look real? It doesn't even look "cool". It just looks like shit. I can't believe that a studio actually paid millions of dollars to create something that looks THIS horrible.

JustJon
03-13-2008, 09:33 AM
give me a call when it's someplace other than mtv.com. their shitty website doesn't work with any browser/os combination I use.

Death Metal Moe
03-13-2008, 09:54 AM
Wasn't there just one of these shitty CGI bombs a few years ago?

So not only has Hollywood become so motherfucking lazy that all they do is remakes and adaptations of books/comics/TV/Video games/etc, now they are just doing the same adaptations over again for "round 2."

I will never see another movie at this rate. Fuck you.

Team_Ramrod
03-13-2008, 10:18 AM
I can't see it due to location 'restriction'

Those cocks.

TheMojoPin
03-13-2008, 10:45 AM
Wasn't there just one of these shitty CGI bombs a few years ago?

So not only has Hollywood become so motherfucking lazy that all they do is remakes and adaptations of books/comics/TV/Video games/etc, now they are just doing the same adaptations over again for "round 2."

I will never see another movie at this rate. Fuck you.

Ridiculous. There are so many "non-Hollywood" movies out there, far more than ones that are sequels or or remakes or adaptations of things like comic books.

IamFogHat
03-13-2008, 11:41 AM
For those who couldn't view it, here's a link that will work.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=1317

Everyone has already made my point for me about the CGI bullshit so, whatever. Did they think we would be impressed if they just made their cgi hulk a slightly less brightly colored green? What the fuck hollywood?

MadMatt
03-13-2008, 12:07 PM
My biggest complaint is that the Abomination looks NOTHING like he does in the comic. This version looks like he could be a reject from Hellraiser: The Animated Series.

And in the synopsis I read, they are touting the Abomination as MORE POWERFUL than the Huilk because he was dosed with a greater level of Gamma crap. WTF?!?!?!?!?! I will admit that he was usually a 'tough customer,' but when was the Abomination EVER more powerful than the Hulk (barring Joe Fixit/Gray Hulk)?

I don't mind the Hulk CGI - at least it looks a little more believable than the first movie. The story had better completely rule if they don't want this flick to flop...

weekapaugjz
03-13-2008, 12:28 PM
For those who couldn't view it, here's a link that will work.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=1317

Everyone has already made my point for me about the CGI bullshit so, whatever. Did they think we would be impressed if they just made their cgi hulk a slightly less brightly colored green? What the fuck hollywood?

completely off topic, but i love your pride of baghdad sig.

badorties
03-13-2008, 01:20 PM
Ridiculous. There are so many "non-Hollywood" movies out there, far more than ones that are sequels or or remakes or adaptations of things like comic books.

tim roth has a great looking film out tomorrow, funny games (http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/funnygames/trailer1/)

Death Metal Moe
03-13-2008, 01:38 PM
Ridiculous. There are so many "non-Hollywood" movies out there, far more than ones that are sequels or or remakes or adaptations of things like comic books.

Not ridiculous in the least. Go outside major cities. All they get are the big blockbuster movies and crappy family garbage at the local mall theater with 4 or 5 screens. They don't get the smaller films which may or may not be better. Just because it's "independent" doesn't mean it's worth a shit.

America is force fed a steady stream of bullshit and a lot of us got up from the table.

ADF
03-13-2008, 01:49 PM
My biggest complaint is that the Abomination looks NOTHING like he does in the comic. This version looks like he could be a reject from Hellraiser: The Animated Series.

And in the synopsis I read, they are touting the Abomination as MORE POWERFUL than the Huilk because he was dosed with a greater level of Gamma crap. WTF?!?!?!?!?! I will admit that he was usually a 'tough customer,' but when was the Abomination EVER more powerful than the Hulk (barring Joe Fixit/Gray Hulk)?

I don't mind the Hulk CGI - at least it looks a little more believable than the first movie. The story had better completely rule if they don't want this flick to flop...

If I remember my comic book lore correctly, Abomination is technically stronger than the Hulk initially. But, as we all know, the Hulk becomes stronger the angrier he gets and it is at that point that he becomes stronger than Abomination.

I thought the Abomination seemed like a reasonable movie translation of the comic book version. Still, I don't have any plans to see it, despite the presence of Mr. Norton. Looks like a "wait for HBO" type of film.

AnnoyedGrunt
03-13-2008, 01:54 PM
Hey, looks like the big CGI showdown takes place on Younge St. in Toronto.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dafurball/511403856/

TheMojoPin
03-13-2008, 02:25 PM
Not ridiculous in the least. Go outside major cities. All they get are the big blockbuster movies and crappy family garbage at the local mall theater with 4 or 5 screens. They don't get the smaller films which may or may not be better. Just because it's "independent" doesn't mean it's worth a shit.

America is force fed a steady stream of bullshit and a lot of us got up from the table.

Yes, but we live in the age of things like Netflix, which makes it easier to see "non-Hollywood" movies than ever before, even if you inexplicably live in the middle of nowhere where there's no access to decent theaters wihin a reasonable distance. The options to see a tremendous range of films have never been greater.

An I never said the films had to be "smaller" or "independent." Tons of movies come out each year through major studios or distributors or with big budgets that are both good and original. Tossing out blanket dismissals of all films is like saying that no truly different books come out each year because it seems like everyone is reading Harry Potter sequels and their ilk. If you don't wat to watch movies, that's ultimately on you and hot "Hollywood." There's never been a time when the major theaters were dominaed b mostly unique and amazing films...same with books, TV, radio, music and any other pop culture outlet you can think of. If you want more tha the big stuff, you have to just barely scratch below the surface. That's how it is, and that's how it'll always be. Acting like "Hollywood" has suddenly somehow gotten worse or is keeping you from seeing good films simply isn't realistic at all.

MadMatt
03-13-2008, 02:25 PM
If I remember my comic book lore correctly, Abomination is technically stronger than the Hulk initially. But, as we all know, the Hulk becomes stronger the angrier he gets and it is at that point that he becomes stronger than Abomination.

I thought the Abomination seemed like a reasonable movie translation of the comic book version. Still, I don't have any plans to see it, despite the presence of Mr. Norton. Looks like a "wait for HBO" type of film.

You have a point, but the Hulk doesn't really have a "base line." As he gets angrier he gets stronger, so if the Abomination ticks him off the Hulk just gets strong enough to beat him to a pulp.

Where the fight starts doesn't really matter because it will almost invariably end the same way - the limits to the Hulk's strength and resilience are (conceivably) unknown/unknowable.

Death Metal Moe
03-13-2008, 02:51 PM
Yes, but we live in the age of things like Netflix, which makes it easier to see "non-Hollywood" movies than ever before, even if you inexplicably live in the middle of nowhere where there's no access to decent theaters wihin a reasonable distance. The options to see a tremendous range of films have never been greater.

An I never said the films had to be "smaller" or "independent." Tons of movies come out each year through major studios or distributors or with big budgets that are both good and original. Tossing out blanket dismissals of all films is like saying that no truly different books come out each year because it seems like everyone is reading Harry Potter sequels and their ilk. If you don't wat to watch movies, that's ultimately on you and hot "Hollywood." There's never been a time when the major theaters were dominaed b mostly unique and amazing films...same with books, TV, radio, music and any other pop culture outlet you can think of. If you want more tha the big stuff, you have to just barely scratch below the surface. That's how it is, and that's how it'll always be. Acting like "Hollywood" has suddenly somehow gotten worse or is keeping you from seeing good films simply isn't realistic at all.


It has got MUCH worse within the past few years. I have never seen so many fucking remakes and adaptations. It was not like this until somewhat recently.

TheMojoPin
03-13-2008, 03:22 PM
It has got MUCH worse within the past few years. I have never seen so many fucking remakes and adaptations. It was not like this until somewhat recently.

I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case. Adaptations and remakes have been "huge" for more than half a century now. So many films that people consider classic now were actually just remakes or even arguably sequels or just part of a series, either literary or cinematic.

TooLowBrow
03-13-2008, 03:28 PM
I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case. Adaptations and remakes have been "huge" for more than half a century now. So many films that people consider classic now were actually just remakes or even arguably sequels or just part of a series, either literary or cinematic.

not the godfather 2 tho, that was an original

fezident
03-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Hey, looks like the big CGI showdown takes place on Younge St. in Toronto.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dafurball/511403856/


Ahh, yes.. Yonge & Bloor. My old stompin' grounds. 416 in the hizzy.

And now back to your regularly scheduled american program........

Death Metal Moe
03-13-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm sorry, but that's simply not the case. Adaptations and remakes have been "huge" for more than half a century now. So many films that people consider classic now were actually just remakes or even arguably sequels or just part of a series, either literary or cinematic.

Well, that's your opinion. Enjoy what films you can find that are worth anything. I will continue to opt out of sub-par entertainment.

Sheeplovr
03-14-2008, 06:51 AM
DAMN IT.
GOD F'ING DAMN IT.

I wanna know WHO the F is signing off on these special FX!! I'm getting reeeeally tired of seeing NOTHING but shitty CGI in every movie. These FX are so bad that I'm having a hard time even believing that they're "finished". This look like crappy videogame animation from 10 years ago. Horrible.

Unacceptable.
Totally unacceptable.

Fuck hollywood.

what is wrong with you
make your own special effects aparntly you know how to do it better
that looked standard

fezident
03-14-2008, 06:55 AM
That argument is not valid. And a copout.
"I" don't have anything to do with it. I'm not in that line of work. However... I do have standards.

By your logic, if you go out to eat at an expensive place... and the food is sub-par... YOU should go home and cook your own meal because, apparantly, you can do it better.

No.

Midkiff
03-14-2008, 07:20 AM
Oh, what a bunch of Debbie Downers you people are. The first movie was great, and so is this one. Stop being poopy-pants.

Wallower
03-14-2008, 07:32 AM
I won't be watching this one. I liked the first one and I won't pay to watch this "rebuttal".


If this one is bad just wait three more years for the next reboot.

topless_mike
03-14-2008, 07:32 AM
Oh, what a bunch of Debbie Downers you people are. The first movie was great, and so is this one. Stop being poopy-pants.

x 2

I thought the first Hulk was going to be garbage. It wasnt. It wasnt the Bee's Knees, but it was exactly what i wanted it to be: entertainting. Im hoping this is as entertainting as well.
Just something to amuse me for 90 minutes.

High expectations allow for more disapointment. That and it shows there you put way too much time into movies.

ToLEEdo
03-14-2008, 12:42 PM
I think it will be pretty good. I think it will be entertaining and at least well acted. Plus the FX look really good. They look way better and more realistic than the first movie.

What exactly do you expect a gamma radiated giant to look like??
Do you think they didn't use the best FX they could?
Should we not make movies about topics until we can make things look 100% like real life?

Between this, Iron Man and The Dark Knight we have some awesome super hero movies coming out. Why always bitching?

chubbyknuckles
03-14-2008, 12:47 PM
Oh, what a bunch of Debbie Downers you people are. The first movie was great, and so is this one. Stop being poopy-pants.

the first hulk was great!?

TheMojoPin
03-14-2008, 01:00 PM
the first hulk was great!?

One of the best comic book flicks so far.

Personally, I don't get hung up on special effects in cases like this since I've yet to see a CGI character that doesn't look completely fake, and yes, that includes LOTR. That said, the only thing that the God-awful League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got right was the effects for Mr. Hyde, and I wished they used something similar for the Hulk. And hey, shocker, what helped those effects out? THEY WEREN'T ALL CGI.

MadMatt
03-14-2008, 01:53 PM
One of the best comic book flicks so far.

You are insane.

The first movie was "good," but nowhere near being one of the best comic book flicks so far. As I said before, I didn't/don't mind the way the Hulk looks (actually, I kind of dig it). However, the storyline of the first movie blew goats.

You want to talk about a departure from the comic? Take a look at the first Hulk. WTF?!?!?!

I get that they might have needed to change the origin story a little to meet modern circumstances, but what they did was ridiculous. However, pull the entire "Father" storyline out of the movie and it would have been a far superior movie.

TheMojoPin
03-14-2008, 02:05 PM
You are insane.

The first movie was "good," but nowhere near being one of the best comic book flicks so far. As I said before, I didn't/don't mind the way the Hulk looks (actually, I kind of dig it). However, the storyline of the first movie blew goats.

You want to talk about a departure from the comic? Take a look at the first Hulk. WTF?!?!?!

I get that they might have needed to change the origin story a little to meet modern circumstances, but what they did was ridiculous. However, pull the entire "Father" storyline out of the movie and it would have been a far superior movie.

Pull it out entirely? Then you're subtracting a key part of his mythos that has been established over the last 20 years and is one of the few bits of genuine character development Banner has ever received. Yes, they expanded it by haing his father still be alive and basically become the Absorbing Man, but I had zero problem with that. Better something with more of an emotional impact than just some random thug who stumbles on some powers. I love the cast, love the direction, LOVE the splitscreen shots.

I don't get hung up on changes that don't change the basic core of the character. With the father stuff, this is still obviously the Hulk here...it's not like the completely redid the whole thing a la Wanted. I think movies can make comics better sometimes (hello, organic webshooters!), and I thought it was a creative modification on the character and his world for the better...minus the Hulk-Dogs.

CofyCrakCocaine
03-14-2008, 02:14 PM
You are insane.

The first movie was "good," but nowhere near being one of the best comic book flicks so far. As I said before, I didn't/don't mind the way the Hulk looks (actually, I kind of dig it). However, the storyline of the first movie blew goats.

You want to talk about a departure from the comic? Take a look at the first Hulk. WTF?!?!?!

I get that they might have needed to change the origin story a little to meet modern circumstances, but what they did was ridiculous. However, pull the entire "Father" storyline out of the movie and it would have been a far superior movie.

Yeah I'd say it was one of the best comic book movies made. The camera work with the numerous camera angles at once to simulate the feel of a comic book mixed with some real character development versus the bland garbage we've seen in just about every other comic book movie character-wise helped create a movie that was, in spite of being part of the very limiting genre that is comic-based movies, unique and interesting. It was slow, but it was intelligent. You can't say that about 80% of the other comic book movies out there.

I think your main beef is that you are something of a purist and if something on screen departs from the canon of the comics themselves, you don't like it. Personally, I think that's contrarian to the whole comic book thing in the first place, since they are always re-writing the storylines in those series. So by changing things up and putting a new spin on an old story, Ang Lee's story was closer to comic book writing than any comic movie that does its best to make a bland retelling of the exact same thing from 1975.

I dunno how much better History of Violence would be if they completely retold the entire comic word for word. All I know is that the movie is still fucking awesome.

lleeder
03-14-2008, 02:16 PM
nice! they also show lost boys 2 trailer!

Cry little sister
"Thou shall not fall"
Come, Come to your brother
"Thou shall not fly"
Unchain me sister
"Thou shall not steal"
Love is with your brother
"Thou shall not kill"

You forgot one thing about the sequel from the article. this straight to video sequel

MadMatt
03-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Pull it out entirely? Then you're subtracting a key part of his mythos that has been established over the last 20 years and is one of the few bits of genuine character development Banner has ever received. Yes, they expanded it by haing his father still be alive and basically become the Absorbing Man, but I had zero problem with that. Better something with more of an emotional impact than just some random thug who stumbles on some powers. I love the cast, love the direction, LOVE the splitscreen shots.

I don't get hung up on changes that don't change the basic core of the character. With the father stuff, this is still obviously the Hulk here...it's not like the completely redid the whole thing a la Wanted. I think movies can make comics better sometimes (hello, organic webshooters!), and I thought it was a creative modification on the character and his world for the better...minus the Hulk-Dogs.

I'll give you that; keep Dad killing Mom and the trauma it caused - that makes sense and goes along with the Hulk mythos. Otherwise, get rid of Dad. It was unnecessary and counter to the character that people were expecting to see.

I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I look for more continuity with the comic and you don't. No biggy. :happy:

lleeder
03-14-2008, 02:20 PM
I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I look for more continuity with the comic and you don't. No biggy. :happy:

Are you saying you guys are gonna agree to disagree?

MadMatt
03-14-2008, 02:21 PM
Are you saying you guys are gonna agree to disagree?

Lingedy La-La.

CofyCrakCocaine
03-14-2008, 02:24 PM
I'll give you that; keep Dad killing Mom and the trauma it caused - that makes sense and goes along with the Hulk mythos. Otherwise, get rid of Dad. It was unnecessary and counter to the character that people were expecting to see.

I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I look for more continuity with the comic and you don't. No biggy. :happy:

Continuity in a medium that does not know the meaning of the word is not worth endeavoring towards. I was irked when continuity was not always there in movies that derived from source material that was absolutely rooted in a sense of continuity, such as the massive departures made in the third LOTR movie. But old comic books just have no honest sense of continuity in that regard- the way I see it, if the guys responsible for the story itself are constantly fiddling with the past stories and re-working them, then why should fans be so puritanical about it?

Just my way of thinking. I love you too honey bunny. :innocent:

MadMatt
03-14-2008, 02:32 PM
Yeah I'd say it was one of the best comic book movies made. The camera work with the numerous camera angles at once to simulate the feel of a comic book mixed with some real character development versus the bland garbage we've seen in just about every other comic book movie character-wise helped create a movie that was, in spite of being part of the very limiting genre that is comic-based movies, unique and interesting. It was slow, but it was intelligent. You can't say that about 80% of the other comic book movies out there.

I think your main beef is that you are something of a purist and if something on screen departs from the canon of the comics themselves, you don't like it. Personally, I think that's contrarian to the whole comic book thing in the first place, since they are always re-writing the storylines in those series. So by changing things up and putting a new spin on an old story, Ang Lee's story was closer to comic book writing than any comic movie that does its best to make a bland retelling of the exact same thing from 1975.

I dunno how much better History of Violence would be if they completely retold the entire comic word for word. All I know is that the movie is still fucking awesome.

I'm not a complete purist - I certainly realize the need to make things different. Whether you are updating the character for a modern audience or altering certain aspects because they won't translate well, I am good to go. A certain amount of dramatic license is necessary.

However, dramatic departures DO bug me. And I am not saying I "hated" the original Hulk movie. True, I did not like aspects but there were many great things about the movie.

That said, I generally hate when they do a major retcon to characters in the comic books. If it isn't done well, the character and readers have to live with it. Case in point, Spider-man: One More Day.

And mostly I want to see a comic storyline on screen, not literally a comic book. IMO the various splits and tricks Ang Lee used made the movie TOO comic-booky. I would rather have an action/adventure movie based on the comic book rather than trying to create a comic book on screen.

MadMatt
03-14-2008, 02:38 PM
Continuity in a medium that does not know the meaning of the word is not worth endeavoring towards. I was irked when continuity was not always there in movies that derived from source material that was absolutely rooted in a sense of continuity, such as the massive departures made in the third LOTR movie. But old comic books just have no honest sense of continuity in that regard- the way I see it, if the guys responsible for the story itself are constantly fiddling with the past stories and re-working them, then why should fans be so puritanical about it?

Just my way of thinking. I love you too honey bunny. :innocent:

No, I am actually with you on that. And I probably should just keep continuity out of the discussion.

See my other post - I essentially say the same thing. :smile:

However, Marvel has a tendency of radically changing characters when they are brought to the big screen. I can't think of a single Marvel movie that sticks to the comic mythos enough to be anywhere near canon. They are almost all re-imaginings of the character and 'historical' storyline.

I'm probably just too sensitive. You guys have brought up some points I definitely need to think about. In fact, I think I will watch the Hulk again this weekend.

BTW - can we agree on the main point of my original post? The Abomination looks absolutely ridiculous in the new trailer. He is NOTHING like the character from the book other than being large, strong, and ugly.

lleeder
03-14-2008, 02:40 PM
One thing I wish they could do in comic book movies is just pick up in the middle of things with out character development. I hate that we always have the same basic structure where we see every characters origin and they those characters are all involved together. I know for non comic reading audiences it has to be done but I'd like one film that focuses on one conflict for a long time between charcters we already know. It always seems like half the film is origin and then the rest is rushed.

Crispy123
03-14-2008, 02:49 PM
One thing I wish they could do in comic book movies is just pick up in the middle of things with out character development. I hate that we always have the same basic structure where we see every characters origin and they those characters are all involved together. I know for non comic reading audiences it has to be done but I'd like one film that focuses on one conflict for a long time between charcters we already know. It always seems like half the film is origin and then the rest is rushed.

I defintely agree. Hopefully that will help here with this new Hulk movie since they can move the plot along. I really dont have any problem with the CGI, it was how slow the build up was to actually getting to the "Hulk" that I didnt like about the first movie.

ToLEEdo
03-14-2008, 02:51 PM
One thing I wish they could do in comic book movies is just pick up in the middle of things with out character development. I hate that we always have the same basic structure where we see every characters origin and they those characters are all involved together. I know for non comic reading audiences it has to be done but I'd like one film that focuses on one conflict for a long time between charcters we already know. It always seems like half the film is origin and then the rest is rushed.

That was one of the problems with FF it was the origin story that isn't that interesting. Since most of them were written like 50 years ago they can come across as weak. But if they just started from the middle everyone would be lost. Thats why we get sequels.

lleeder
03-14-2008, 02:58 PM
That was one of the problems with FF it was the origin story that isn't that interesting. Since most of them were written like 50 years ago they can come across as weak. But if they just started from the middle everyone would be lost. Thats why we get sequels.

Yeah but even sequels have alot of recap and new character origins that just go on forever. I also don't like how fast things develop. It seems like the villian is formed, on the loose then defeated in about three days.

TooLowBrow
03-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah but even sequels have alot of recap and new character origins that just go on forever. I also don't like how fast things develop. It seems like the villian is formed, on the loose then defeated in about three days.

EVERY SINGLE batman movie shows his parents dying and him seeing a bat and realizing that bats are scary.

we know.

enough.

legroommusic
03-14-2008, 09:19 PM
I think the CGI is fine. I think that the technology is as far as it's going to be for now. I think that it's better than claymation or Lou Furigno with his green peppermint patty wig. This one actually looks like it might be a good story. It looks like it has a pretty good cast.

King Imp
03-15-2008, 07:27 AM
I'm surprised no one brought up the Edward Norton news of him pretty much being the reason the news of this movie being held up is on him.

Norton and Marvel are clashing over how to cut the pic. Insiders say Norton was "promised tremendous involvement and access" after Marvel invited him into the core team to rewrite Zak Penn's script. Says one insider, "There's a lot of posturing going on between Edward's camp and Marvel over how you edit the final version." Sources also tell me that, starting last night and continuing at least throughout today, the actor will be holed up with Marvel Studios chairman David Maisel, Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige, and director Louis Leterrier to try to "reach an amicable resolution" to this $150+ million film feud.

Franklyn
03-15-2008, 09:26 AM
It's not the amount.
It's the quality. Or lack thereof.

Does ANYONE think these effects look real? It doesn't even look "cool". It just looks like shit. I can't believe that a studio actually paid millions of dollars to create something that looks THIS horrible.

Very good point. I agree. Some of it might be fun but nothing looks believable if that's what you mean. I feel like a lot of movies just give into the comic book feel but forget the humans are real.

TooLowBrow
03-15-2008, 09:44 AM
I'm surprised no one brought up the Edward Norton news of him pretty much being the reason the news of this movie being held up is on him.

didnt he pull this editing crap with american history x?