UFC/MMA Discussion

[cougarjake13]

yes

which one ?

[StanUpshaw]

http://www.espn.co.uk/espn/sport/story/110232.html

Nick Diaz is now fighting Penn instead of GSP. :lol:

I think this is better all-around. I am confident in GSP's ability to get a boring win over either Diaz or Condit, so that matchup is kind of a push for me. But Diaz in there against Penn? HOLY SHIT that sounds like a fun fight.

[StanUpshaw]

I've been reading a lot of talk that says Condit has a better chance with GSP, since Diaz has such shitty wrestling.

I went back and watched Condit's fights and this is what I found:

Kyle Jensen put Condit on his back in 11 sec
John Alessio put Condit on his back in 65 sec
Brock Larson put Condit on his back in 48 sec
Carlo Prater put Condit on his back in 30 sec
Hiromitsu Miura put Condit on his back in 102 sec
Martin Kampmann put Condit on his back in 47 sec
Jake Ellenberger put Condit on his back in 9 sec
Rory Macdonald put Condit on his back in 46 sec
Dan Hardy attempted no takedowns
Dong Hyun Kim put Condit on his back in 43 sec

SHIT THROUGH A GOOSE

[Dirtbag]

Condit's one of those guys who concedes takedowns because he can generally get right back up, not to mention his BJJ. I just don't know if its enough against GSP.

[StanUpshaw]

Welcome to the Cormier Era.

[Dirtbag]

Welcome to the <strike>Cormier</strike> 2nd Barnett Era.

Fixed that for ya.

[StanUpshaw]

I just dug up ROTR 9

Frank Trigg put Condit on his back in 3 sec
Jake Shields put Condit on his back in 8 sec


I find it inconceivable that he will be on his feet for even one minute cumulative over five rounds.

[StanUpshaw]

Update:

Satoru Kitaoka put Condit on his back in 17 sec
Tatsunori Tanaka put Condit on his back in 29 sec
Renato Verissimo attempted a takedown and Condit killed him in the face
Jarvis Brennaman took Condit down in 8 sec, but was never actually in control and got tapped quick

[sailor]

but at 27-5 i guess those facts don't tell the whole story.

[StanUpshaw]

It's all you need to know when his opponent is going to be GSP. And it's a counter to this absurd notion that Diaz had this wrestling Achilles' heel (probably true), while Condit has a skillset that would match up better against such an unbelievable wrestler.

[StanUpshaw]

Josh Neer: the white Diaz

[smiler grogan]

I thought Mac Danzig won that fight 29-28. Really fun fight.

[StanUpshaw]

Leonard Garcia is so horrible.

Watching him fight makes me sad.





Awww, who am I kidding? I love a good trashfight.

[StanUpshaw]

I will literally cry if Chael loses.

[StanUpshaw]

An absolute shit-kicking followed by the best promo in MMA history (even if he did jack The Rock's swagger). Chael is officially my favorite fighter of all time.

[StanUpshaw]

Fuck Gray Maynard, but fuck Frankie more. Loving this beating!

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/uV5R2.jpg (http://imgur.com/uV5R2)

[StanUpshaw]

Condit-GSP is off. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20111019,0,356208.story)

[Fallon]

Condit-GSP is off. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20111019,0,356208.story)

http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/troy-troll.gif

Crap!!

[Misteriosa]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/smilies/thkorbat_grey_melodramatic.gif

[StanUpshaw]

Did Danny Downes shit himself?

[StanUpshaw]

Please don't die Crocop. :down:

[newport king]

from the laptop screen, it looked like roy was in good shape... for roy.

up next mittrione vs kongo. i'm going with mittrione based off every time i thought he'd lose so far the guy has won.

[StanUpshaw]

It really is a battle of two guys I have absolutely no faith in. But yeah, I think you have to give Meat the benefit of the doubt.

[newport king]

is an 8-8 round possible?

[StanUpshaw]

On the other hand, he's keeping his head way up and his hands low. If he was threatening takedowns that would be one thing, but he's asking for trouble.

[newport king]

kongo fights so scared for a monster

[StanUpshaw]

I wonder who told Mitrione that it was a good idea to try to roll for an ankle lock whilst being laid on by a 260 lb. punchfighter?

[newport king]

that fight was terrible. i don't know that i'd give kongo a 10-8 for that 3rd rd. id say mittrione in a split.

[newport king]

30-27? honestly? how do these people become judges?

[StanUpshaw]

On the plus side, it's inconceivable that Penn-Diaz ends up being a bad fight.

[newport king]

has diaz or dana ever addressed the whole no showing for media during the GSP fight debacle?

[StanUpshaw]

has diaz or dana ever addressed the whole no showing for media during the GSP fight debacle?

I really don't know how all that shook out. I quit paying attention. I got SO disgusted by these moralizing douchebag writers and commentators during these recent "controversies."

[newport king]

i think BJ might get fucked up pretty good here.

[newport king]

this ref looks like hes dying to jump in and stop this fight. BJ better not eat too many punches in round 3.

[StanUpshaw]

I was hoping for more on the ground, but it was easily FotN.

[StanUpshaw]

Where u at georges?

Where u at mother fucker?

[newport king]

Diaz is a nasty mother fucker that can fight his ass off. Don't know how he'd do against a 5 round wrestlefuck from GSP but i'd love to see it.

[newport king]

i like the post fight interviews are pretty much talking shit on prospective opponents these days. Minimal ass kissing of the guy you just fought, and just calling out people.

[StanUpshaw]

Diaz is a nasty mother fucker that can fight his ass off. Don't know how he'd do against a 5 round wrestlefuck from GSP but i'd love to see it.

In his post-fight, Diaz thanked his boxing coach, his jiu jitsu coach, another jiu jitsu coach David Terrell, and his sambo coach. Conspicuously absent was mention of a wrestling coach. He has absolutely no chance of stopping a GSP takedown. I would be inclined to say the longer he waits to fight GSP the better, but that's not true, since he'll just run into a Fitch or Koscheck and get wrestlefucked by them instead.

[TripleSkeet]

In his post-fight, Diaz thanked his boxing coach, his jiu jitsu coach, another jiu jitsu coach David Terrell, and his sambo coach. Conspicuously absent was mention of a wrestling coach. He has absolutely no chance of stopping a GSP takedown. I would be inclined to say the longer he waits to fight GSP the better, but that's not true, since he'll just run into a Fitch or Koscheck and get wrestlefucked by them instead.

Yea well GSP's next opponent just stepped aside so hes fighting him next. GSP is gonna murder this guy.

[Dirtbag]

Condit is an idiot. I understand that he got the shot in the first place because Diaz is also an idiot, but you don't just step aside when given a title shot. Now, Condit is either going to end up like Rashad and never get his shot or he's going to get Fitch'd or Kos'd. I hope Dana handed Condit his win bonus and projected PPV cut last night when he made GSP/Diaz official.

[Gutter]

Condit is an idiot. I understand that he got the shot in the first place because Diaz is also an idiot, but you don't just step aside when given a title shot. Now, Condit is either going to end up like Rashad and never get his shot or he's going to get Fitch'd or Kos'd. I hope Dana handed Condit his win bonus and projected PPV cut last night when he made GSP/Diaz official.

apparently, reports of him stepping aside are incorrect and that GSP wanted to fight Diaz more because of the post fight comments that Diaz made.

[King Imp]

So, who you guys got in tomorrow's freebie?

I'm gonna go with Dos Santos over Velasquez and as much as this pains me to say, Henderson over Guida. Unless Guida can get Henderson to the ground and stifle him, Bendo will do to Guida what Diego Sanchez did.

[StanUpshaw]

So, who you guys got in tomorrow's freebie?

I'm gonna go with Dos Santos over Velasquez and as much as this pains me to say, Henderson over Guida. Unless Guida can get Henderson to the ground and stifle him, Bendo will do to Guida what Diego Sanchez did.

We haven't really seen enough from either of them to have a solid idea of whose weaknesses will be tested the most.

First off, I think you have to give an edge to JDS due to Cain's injury. Until we actually see him in there, that's still a huge question mark.

Junior has only faced one wrestler, and he fucked his shit up before Carwin was able to test his takedown defense too extensively.

Cain on the other hand got dropped repeatedly by Kongo, but that was almost three years ago. He ate a couple of shots from Lesnar, but both that fight and the Nog fight were pretty much one-sided. But still....wrestling. It's hard to bet against wrestling. I guess my pick is Cain.

[newport king]

i just looked on UFC's site after watching Helwani interview Dana, why wouldn't the put the whole card on FOX? Just 1 fight is dumb.

[newport king]

Check that, just looked at the full card...Guida should be on FOX. The rest, not so much.

[StanUpshaw]

i just looked on UFC's site after watching Helwani interview Dana, why wouldn't the put the whole card on FOX? Just 1 fight is dumb.

This is why. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeforce:_Nashville)

[newport king]

Big difference from Strikeforce then and UFC. The fighters would know, first one that steps out of line is gone.

[King Imp]

Really? One fucking fight is all we get to see? What the hell did FOX even pay for if not to get a full card?

And how are they going to time this perfectly? Fights don't exactly start and end at a certain time.

[StanUpshaw]

Really? One fucking fight is all we get to see? What the hell did FOX even pay for if not to get a full card?

You know how not to get a mass audience, who have never watched MMA before, hooked on your product? Show them three hours of atrociously boring matches. THAT is why the Strikeforce show was a disaster. [Not the brawl...are you kidding? People eat that shit up.]

And how are they going to time this perfectly? Fights don't exactly start and end at a certain time.

Of course fights start at certain times. People need to know exactly when they're going on to get their warmups done right. You think they're running the show for the live crowd? This has always been a TV product.

[King Imp]

Of course fights start at certain times. People need to know exactly when they're going on to get their warmups done right. You think they're running the show for the live crowd? This has always been a TV product.

It just seems strange that a main event would be going off at 9:00/9:30 pm. When does the actual card start, 6 pm?

Oh, and they could of at least given us the Guida-Henderson fight as well. That's probably going to be more action packed than the HW fight.

[StanUpshaw]

They're going to stream the entire undercard.

[StanUpshaw]

It'll be interesting what sort of reception this gets. I'm afraid a 60 second KO could yield a lot of "Is that it? A lot of hype for nothing" responses.

Bendo fight was good as always.

[Jayw]

Well that was incredibly lame. I thought it would be a nice precursor before the main event of pacman tonight to give ufc a decent shot.

Seems like mma on the big networks has been flop city when it comes to these 30 second KO's.

[Fallon]

That's why Fox should have aired the undercard. 45 minute buildup to a minute long fight is bad business.

[King Imp]

That's why Fox should have aired the undercard. 45 minute buildup to a minute long fight is bad business.

Don't let Dana White hear you say that. He'll call you an asshole and say you know nothing about the sport and to stop crying. Oh, and to watch on Facebook because I know when I have a 50" HD set, my first thought is I can't wait to watch online on my 20" monitor. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-on-Fox-postfight-White-tells-critics-to-sh;_ylt=AthaKePTn88gCOluZ3.B.3E9Eo14?urn=mma-wp9401) :annoyed:

[Gutter]

They really should've showed the Guida vs. Henderson fight. I was bummed that Cain lost, I thought the stoppage was a little quick as far as title fights go.....the subsequent shots appeared to be landing on Cains shoulder, and the two the Dos Santos actually connected with in the following melee looked like they woke Cain up a bit. Having the Guida fight on there though would have given some new fans a good idea of what to expect.

[newport king]

Don't let Dana White hear you say that. He'll call you an asshole and say you know nothing about the sport and to stop crying. Oh, and to watch on Facebook because I know when I have a 50" HD set, my first thought is I can't wait to watch online on my 20" monitor. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-on-Fox-postfight-White-tells-critics-to-sh;_ylt=AthaKePTn88gCOluZ3.B.3E9Eo14?urn=mma-wp9401) :annoyed:

Well to be fair, i watch most PPV's on my laptop screen. ZING!!

[Dirtbag]

I was bummed that Cain lost, I thought the stoppage was a little quick as far as title fights go.....the subsequent shots appeared to be landing on Cains shoulder, and the two the Dos Santos actually connected with in the following melee looked like they woke Cain up a bit.

Cain turned his back and stopped defending. Had Junior decided to start playing bongos on his back like T. Silva/Vera Big John would have been right to stop it. Brock got more time against both Carwin and Velasquez because he was defending himself, if poorly in the Cain fight.

[newport king]

i hope Cung Le kicks Silvas head into the 15th row. Enough already with this guy. I know what he WAS. But i can't remember a fight where he wasn't decimated in the UFC.

Saw the replay of the Faber KO, besides that don't think i missed much else. Also see Stan Upshaw hasn't posted. Everything ok?

[StanUpshaw]

I'M HERE!


Wandy murderizing yellow people! It's like I'm back in 2003!

[StanUpshaw]

I don't know what I'm going to do without fucking Mauro Renallo calling a Hendo fight.

H-BOMB!

H-BOMB!

H-BOMB!

H-BOMB!

H-BOMB!

[newport king]

I agree with Rogan that the stop was a little quick, but don't have much of a problem with it. he would've gotten hit 5 more times then it wouldve been stopped.

[StanUpshaw]

The fight was A LOT better than what I expected. Wandy's chin is gone, and I figured the first shin that breezed by his head would put him out. Really good fight.

[newport king]

If i learned anything tonight, it's that Brazilians like REALLY shitty techno.

[StanUpshaw]

Shogun looks like Fat Mac.

[newport king]

what a crazy 1st rd.

U-S-A

U-S-A

I want to go headbutt an eagle.

[StanUpshaw]

"Ice! Ice please!"

"Not in my pants."

[StanUpshaw]

Holy shit what a fight

[StanUpshaw]

Rolling into that crucifix gave me a flashback to those Gary Goodridge elbows which may have been the most brutal KO I've ever witnessed.

[newport king]

this should've been on FOX

[StanUpshaw]

Can Dan can even get off his stool? JESEUS CHRIST!

[StanUpshaw]

this should've been on FOX

It would have changed the world.

[newport king]

Fight of the Year.

[StanUpshaw]

How in gods name do you score this fight?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[StanUpshaw]

50-50 draw plz

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hendo wins. Rematch?

[spe5150]

Fight of the Year.

How in gods name do you score this fight?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Exactly...wow, what a fucking fight! That was special.

[styckx]

Fuck fight of the year.. Just best fight ever.. That was legendary and while Shogun lost, he deserves an award of some fucking sort.. How the fuck he ate all those hammers to his face and still almost coming back to win.. That guys jaw is just a brick of granite.

[newport king]

im actually watching or waiting to watch the post fight on ufc.com

[styckx]

Same here.. I haven't seen a fight like that in UFC in.. Well... Sometime back when they still called it cage fighting.. Just a brutal battle.. It really deserved a draw, and I hate draws, and Henderson did technically win.. But.. Man.. It sucks to have to say someone actually lost that battle.

[spe5150]

Double "Fight of the Night" bonuses awarded to Wand/Le & Shogun/Hendo...$70,000 each. Neither Henderson nor Rua at the post-fight presser, both went to the hospital.

[newport king]

When you think about the show these guys put on, it's pitiful what they get paid. 70,000.

[styckx]

When you think about the show these guys put on, it's pitiful what they get paid. 70,000.

Isn't that $70,000 just a bonus on to of what they got paid for the fight in general? If 70k is the bonus I'm sure the actual contract payout is much higher.

[StanUpshaw]

Isn't that $70,000 just a bonus on to of what they got paid for the fight in general? If 70k is the bonus I'm sure the actual contract payout is much higher.

They have their salaries and also PPV cuts.

[StanUpshaw]

The main card was fucking outstanding, and now I just watched the prelims, which had several quick KOs and subs. All told, this is one of the best shows I've ever seen.

The problem with the Hendo fight is that it lacks very much meaning. It wasn't for a belt, and it probably won't lead to a title shot right away, since Jones and Silva are already spoken for. For that reason, I still think you have to rank something like Silva-Sonnen higher.

[StanUpshaw]

The 145 final was great!

Hopefully Mayhem will break Bisping's arm too!

[spe5150]

The 145 final was great!
Hopefully Mayhem will break Bisping's arm too!

We can hope!

Two really good finals, an overall real solid card. UFC must be very pleased. As a fan I certainly am so far.

[StanUpshaw]

God dammit.

Not only does Bisping win, but then he acts all nice and magnanimous afterward? What a dickhole.

[King Imp]

Fucking Mayhem! :furious:

This for shit sure wasn't the same person that took it to Jake Shields for 5 rounds. How the fuck do you gas after only 1 round?

[Dirtbag]

God dammit.

Not only does Bisping win, but then he acts all nice and magnanimous afterward? What a dickhole.

The only thing he won was the opportunity to get Sonnen'd.

[StanUpshaw]

But if he gets Sonnen'd, that means he'll never get Silva'd. And I REALLY want to see Michael Bisping get Silva'd.

[Fallon]

Mayhem was awful!

He could barely make it out of the first round, wasn't he training for five? He was running on empty too soon.

[Dirtbag]

Condit/Diaz for the interim title. Oh hell yeah.

[Gutter]

Condit/Diaz for the interim title. Oh hell yeah.

That's a great fight, but I hope GSP can come back at the same level or close to it. I'd hate to see his career ended by a knee injury.

[sailor]

Announced about an hour ago Gsp tore his acl.

[Gutter]

Announced about an hour ago Gsp tore his acl.

what site where you on? I think mmaweekly.com had it this afternoon. That's usually my go to site along with mmajunkie.com (which, I saw the other day is getting a show on HDNet or Spike or something).

[sailor]

what site where you on? I think mmaweekly.com had it this afternoon. That's usually my go to site along with mmajunkie.com (which, I saw the other day is getting a show on HDNet or Spike or something).

Some news site thru google news. I saw your post, but nothing on the acl actually being torn, so I added.

Plus, I'm old and not really into mma.

[King Imp]

That sucks for GSP. That's gonna be a hard one to come back from.

So, how long before Diaz starts running his mouth about how GSP is just ducking him?

[spe5150]

UFC 140 coming up...who ya got?

[Snacks]

UFC 140 coming up...who ya got?

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[Dirtbag]

Holy shit. Jones is a fucking animal. Anyone really believe Rashad has anything for him?

[spe5150]

I can't see Evans getting anywhere near Jones to be able to use his wrestling. I'm not sure who at 205 would be able to get close to him.

Now that the GSP/Silva super fight is fucked, they should book Silva/Jones...but Dana always says a guy has to "clean out the division" in order to talk super fight. In the amount of time it would take Jones to do that when the champs in the UFC fight twice per year when they're healthy, Silva will probably retire.

[Dirtbag]

To hell with Silva/Jones. Bring on Jones/Dos Santos.

[StanUpshaw]

Standing Cody McKenzie guillotine of death. That was almost hard to watch.

And the last minute of the Mir-Nog fight was amazing.

[newport king]

Alot of people hate on Mir, the dude can fight.

[newport king]

And as far as cleaning out the division, who hasnt this kid EMBARASSED at 205?

[StanUpshaw]

Alot of people hate on Mir, the dude can fight.

No one can question his ground skills, but he looked like shit for 95% of that fight. He's good enough, but only because he's in a weight class where good enough is exceptional.

[Dirtbag]

No one can question his ground skills, but he looked like shit for 95% of that fight. He's good enough, but only because he's in a weight class where good enough is exceptional.

Mir has never won fights that way before in his career either. Quite possibly the most overrated guy in the sport.

[newport king]

Mir has never won fights that way before in his career either. Quite possibly the most overrated guy in the sport.

speaking of overrated; people forget he made brock tap in their first fight.

[cougarjake13]

Wasn't that more due to Brock's inexperience ?
As he was dominating the fight til he made that wrong move that he got caught by mir n then tapped?

[Dirtbag]

speaking of overrated; people forget he made brock tap in their first fight.

That's what I'm talking about. It was essentially Brock's first fight, literally his second, and he was kicking the shit out of Mir until he got cocky/stupid and got caught. That and beating up an old, sick, Nog (and almost losing to him the second time until Minotauro made the same mistake Brock did) are how he got ranked so high to begin with. He got CRUSHED by Brock the second time and got an even worse beating from Carwin. Victories over 2010 Crocop, Kongo (although that one was impressive), and Nelson aren't really anything to write home about even in a weak HW division.

[King Imp]

So, who do you guys have tonight?

Lesnar vs Overeem?
Cerrone vs Diaz?

I'm gonna go with Overeem and Cerrone. I don't think Lesnar has that great a chin and I think Reem will be too much for him once he tags him. As for the other, I hope Cowboy makes Diaz look like the punk bitch that he is.

[TripleSkeet]

So, who do you guys have tonight?

Lesnar vs Overeem?
Cerrone vs Diaz?

I'm gonna go with Overeem and Cerrone. I don't think Lesnar has that great a chin and I think Reem will be too much for him once he tags him. As for the other, I hope Cowboy makes Diaz look like the punk bitch that he is.

Everyone I kn0ow is taking Overeem, Im personally rooting for Brock. I love how the ex-WWE guy pisses off the UFC diehards so much when he wins.

[StanUpshaw]

Tonight??? Fuck.

I don't think you can really pick a winner for this fight, it's really more a case of whose enormous flaws will be exposed first.

If I had to bet, I'd guess it will be Brock's aversion to being punched in the face. And who really knows what kind of shape he's in after yet more surgery.

But it's still possible that he can clinch up with Overeem for a round or two and wear him out, eventually getting a takedown. Then it's his fight to lose.



I'm not sure who I like in the LW fight. I'm really looking forward to it, that's for sure. I think Cerrone is more likely to fight a smart fight; which means keeping it standing and win on points.

I also think Gamburyan vs. Nunes will be a good one.

[cougarjake13]

Everyone I kn0ow is taking Overeem, Im personally rooting for Brock. I love how the ex-WWE guy pisses off the UFC diehards so much when he wins.



X2

Fwiw Brock gets a lot of people who weren't otherwise interested in mma/UFC

[Fallon]

I was watching some Overeem stuff on HDnet this week. He's a beast, but I want Brock to win.

[newport king]

I think overeem may be too experienced, and for the first time hes fighting someone the same size. Then again, he could be like most PRIDE guys and come here and get knocked around

[Snacks]

Overeem, Overeem, Overeem
Overeem, Overeem, Overeem
Overeem, Overeem, Overeem
Overeem, Overeem, Overeem
Overeem, Overeem, Overeem

[styckx]

Annd Brock will be on RAW soon enough now.

[StanUpshaw]

JDS will pick him apart. He's just way too fast for that juiced up freak.

[Snacks]

JDS will pick him apart. He's just way too fast for that juiced up freak.

ok

[StanUpshaw]

ok

If you think otherwise, you've never seen either of them fight before tonight.

[Snacks]

If you think otherwise, you've never seen either of them fight before tonight.

ok

[newport king]

im convinced brock really cant fight. hell of a wrestler, but he cant throw or take a punch. at all. Diaz brothers however should fight once a card. Anyone that would rather give u the finger than shake your hand before a round is alright with me.

[Snacks]

im convinced brock really cant fight. hell of a wrestler, but he cant throw or take a punch. at all. Diaz brothers however should fight once a card. Anyone that would rather give u the finger than shake your hand before a round is alright with me.

Im actually talking about this right now. Brock imo goes down as a ufc overhyped kimbo who had no right to get title shots that he got. he is better then kimbo but he is 5-3 and beat 2 shit fighters and a 50 year old couture.

[StanUpshaw]

Beating two shit fighters is all it takes to be a contender at HW.

[newport king]

ive hated on him in the past year, but this division is so bad, you almost have to get fedor in there to mix things up.

[StanUpshaw]

ive hated on him in the past year, but this division is so bad, you almost have to get fedor in there to mix things up.

He'd still beat all but about six dudes.

[newport king]

He'd still beat all but about six dudes.

does UFC have more than 6 heavyweights?

[StanUpshaw]

Fedor vs. Stefan Streuve.

Book it.

[Dirtbag]

Im actually talking about this right now. Brock imo goes down as a ufc overhyped kimbo who had no right to get title shots that he got. he is better then kimbo but he is 5-3 and beat 2 shit fighters and a 50 year old couture.

I'm not even sure, other than Kim, who you're referring to as shit. I'm as hard as anyone on Frank Mir, but the guy's hardly shit. Especially in the heavyweight division. Herring, while not exactly in his prime when Brock got him, is legit as it gets and was at one time probably the #2 HW in the world behind Big Nog before the rise of Fedor. And Carwin, like almost every HW, has huge issues, but also isn't shit.

[StanUpshaw]

The simple fact is that when it comes to heavyweights, you can make a pretty compelling case (save JDS and Cormier) that every goddamn one of them is shit.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm still learning about MMA, but can anyone explain to me why Cerrone, who had to know he was behind, put Diaz down on the mat not once, not twice, but three times and didn't charge him at all, but just walked away?

Every time I see someone go down in UFC, the other fighter at least makes an attempt to charge and get a couple of shots in. I know the risk is there in getting caught, but I had never seen anything like this before.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, I love the fact that Brock Lesnar was defeated by a kick to the liver.

Rogan said it once and Goldberg was silent, and then Rogan kept harping that it was a liver kick that did Lesnar in.

[cougarjake13]

Unless Brock has saved a ton of money he'll prob have to go to the wwe

[King Imp]

I'm still learning about MMA, but can anyone explain to me why Cerrone, who had to know he was behind, put Diaz down on the mat not once, not twice, but three times and didn't charge him at all, but just walked away?

Every time I see someone go down in UFC, the other fighter at least makes an attempt to charge and get a couple of shots in. I know the risk is there in getting caught, but I had never seen anything like this before.

While Cerrone isn't a slouch on the ground, the Diaz brothers are known for being masters down there. Every time I saw a Nate Diaz fight and his opponent jumped into his guard, I would be screaming at them to get out because Diaz has this knack of submitting everyone who makes that mistake.


As for Overeem, while I like the guy and think he is a legitimate threat, I absolutely hate this one fight and then a title shot bullshit. Yes, he is the reigning Strikeforce champ and has held numerous titles, but for Christ's sake, make people earn their title shots. I personally can't stand Frank Mir, but he's been on a roll lately. Let Mir fight Reem for the #1 spot and then the winner gets JDS.

[StanUpshaw]

As for Overeem, while I like the guy and think he is a legitimate threat, I absolutely hate this one fight and then a title shot bullshit. Yes, he is the reigning Strikeforce champ and has held numerous titles, but for Christ's sake, make people earn their title shots. I personally can't stand Frank Mir, but he's been on a roll lately. Let Mir fight Reem for the #1 spot and then the winner gets JDS.

That's a good idea and all, except for the fact that the people involved like making money.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Unless Brock has saved a ton of money he'll prob have to go to the wwe

Don't be too sure. Brock doesn't strike me as the type who pisses his money away. He got 400K for this fight, and he lives in Minnesota.

He doesn't have alimony to pay, I think he and Rena only have one kid... In other words - he's not flair or Hogan.

Between the paydays he's gotten in the WWE and the paydays he's gotten in UFC, he should be pretty well set up.

[StanUpshaw]

Brock has plenty of money.

Brock will not hesitate to take a Wrestlemania booking (if he's able to get a release).

[cougarjake13]

Don't be too sure. Brock doesn't strike me as the type who pisses his money away. He got 400K for this fight, and he lives in Minnesota.

He doesn't have alimony to pay, I think he and Rena only have one kid... In other words - he's not flair or Hogan.

Between the paydays he's gotten in the WWE and the paydays he's gotten in UFC, he should be pretty well set up.

That's what I'm saying unless he didn't

He's prob still loaded from wwe and that's 8 yrs ago

[Tenbatsuzen]

Brock has plenty of money.

Brock will not hesitate to take a Wrestlemania booking (if he's able to get a release).

My only problem with Brock coming back is that at this point, he's damaged goods.

I'm not sure if you can push him like a monster heel that started his run. Everyone's seen him get the shit kicked out of him, legitimately AND literally.

[cougarjake13]

Yeh I agree and he didn't do well as a face either

[TripleSkeet]

My only problem with Brock coming back is that at this point, he's damaged goods.

I'm not sure if you can push him like a monster heel that started his run. Everyone's seen him get the shit kicked out of him, legitimately AND literally.

Bring him in with Heyman and he would be HUGE.

[StanUpshaw]

There's no problem with damaged goods. It doesn't take a genius to book a comeback story.

[Tenbatsuzen]

There's no problem with damaged goods. It doesn't take a genius to book a comeback story.

You forget: This is the WWE.

[King Imp]

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/7433989/cristiane-cyborg-santos-banned-1-year-positive-steroids-test

I am beyond shocked! :dry:

Seriously, how did it take this long before they caught on?

[cougarjake13]

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/7433989/cristiane-cyborg-santos-banned-1-year-positive-steroids-test

I am beyond shocked! :dry:

Seriously, how did it take this long before they caught on?


I'm sure they caught on long ago she was prob using someone else's blood or piss or something
Or was just smarter and made sure she was off cycle near test time

[Snacks]

I'm sure they caught on long ago she was prob using someone else's blood or piss or something
Or was just smarter and made sure she was off cycle near test time

shes has basically become a fucking man. how anyone has thought she was clean had to be crazy. i though she either juiced or had a sex change she is way too man-ly.

i wonder if Gina Carano will now come back and fight? I find it kind of sad that she lost 1 time and to cyborg and never fought again, like she was scared.

[cougarjake13]

Well I wuld be too if I was a chick fighting a man or at least a half man

[StanUpshaw]

They'll need to introduce a 155 lb class if we ever want to see Gina again.

[King Imp]

Speaking of Carano, that movie of her's Haywire looks pretty good for an action flick. Of course I'd rather see her on the pages of Playboy, but that's another story.

[styckx]

Best knock out I've seen in fucking ages.. Barbosa with a spinning heel kick connecting cleanly to Etims jaw.. Nestea plunge directly to the mat and was out...

http://i.imgur.com/fgGfh.jpg

[StanUpshaw]

My fuckin stream froze right before the kick. My computer has been trolling me all night.

[jennysmurf]

My fuckin stream froze right before the kick. My computer has been trolling me all night.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li2tf1doDM1qi1jfeo1_500.gif

[StanUpshaw]

I sure hope Paul Harris does something wacky again tonight...and I hope I get to see it.



Edit: I automatically root against anyone who walks out to Lose Yourself

[styckx]

Ok.. Rogan calling out the ref right to his face is just odd. It was a rough call to make.. douchetastic.

[styckx]

Here it is.. Pure awesomeness.

http://i.imgur.com/DNj7U.gif

[StanUpshaw]

It's funny. I watched some Eddie Bravo video earlier this week, and Rogan was on there espousing the virtue of the wheel kick. He seriously spent like five minutes throwing wheel kicks at a dummy.

[StanUpshaw]

I hope this fight isn't going to be as boring as I expect.

[styckx]

It's been a quick but good PPV.. Just quick skillful finishes.. No lay and prays and no dancing.. Good stuff

[styckx]

Fucking wow.. That was another awesome knock out.. Dana better give two KO's of the night.. You don't see shit like that very often.

[StanUpshaw]

Yay.

[Dirtbag]

Pat Barry rules.

[Tenbatsuzen]

what an awful match. Bring on Sonnen/Bisping and let Bisping kill his ass.

[cougarjake13]

Forgot it was on
Thanks

[Dirtbag]

30-27 is ridiculous, but Chael won that fight. And he didn't finish the Taz line.

[Fallon]

The three hour preliminary fights were way better than the two hours on fox.

[Gutter]

Ok, Rousimar Palhares is officially a horrendous piece of shit. What a fucking scumbag.


This is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC photo of what Palhares did to a training partner while sparring jujitsu. Keep that in mind. Training partner....and while sparring. not during a match, not in the octagon, not defending his own life.


Click the link which has a synopsis of what happened and the picture only appears when you click "Show" down towards the bottom of the article.

http://www.sportsinferno.com/threads/106012-Gruesome-MMA-Injury-(NSFW)

Fuck Palhares.

[StanUpshaw]

Ok, Rousimar Palhares is officially a horrendous piece of shit. What a fucking scumbag.


This is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC photo of what Palhares did to a training partner while sparring jujitsu. Keep that in mind. Training partner....and while sparring. not during a match, not in the octagon, not defending his own life.


Click the link which has a synopsis of what happened and the picture only appears when you click "Show" down towards the bottom of the article.

http://www.sportsinferno.com/threads/106012-Gruesome-MMA-Injury-(NSFW)

Fuck Palhares.

It's on the internet...it MUST be true!

[King Imp]

So, who do you have tomorrow? Condit or Diaz?

I really want Condit to knock Diaz' ass out, just to shut him up, but I just know that Diaz will win. Most likely a decision. Then we get treated to the asshole talking shit for months until GSP comes back. :annoyed:

On a side note, I was curious about something. Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is basically considered the best out there, and there are so many friggin' camps available that one wouldn't know where to start when it comes to training. Aside from the Gracies, who is considered the best BJJ coach in the U.S.?

[Gutter]

So, who do you have tomorrow? Condit or Diaz?

I really want Condit to knock Diaz' ass out, just to shut him up, but I just know that Diaz will win. Most likely a decision. Then we get treated to the asshole talking shit for months until GSP comes back. :annoyed:

On a side note, I was curious about something. Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is basically considered the best out there, and there are so many friggin' camps available that one wouldn't know where to start when it comes to training. Aside from the Gracies, who is considered the best BJJ coach in the U.S.?

I think I'd actually like to see Diaz win it and maintain it for a while. I do like GSP, but after so many years of his cookie cutter nice guy style, I think it would be cool to have the polar opposite hold the title. They hype for that match up upon GSP's return writes itself. And I like Diaz....I get where he comes from....he's about to fight a dude and he's supposed to be all nice for the cameras? For him it doesn't work and it's almost refreshing. Condits fights are exciting but I think in terms of after this fight, the weight class is more interesting if Diaz comes away as the interim title holder.

As far as BJJ coaches in the US, Eddie Bravo, Dave Camarillo, and Robert Drysdale are probably the top 3. Matt Serra runs two gyms somewhere on Long Island and is the first American to be awarded a black belt in BJJ by a Gracie. I think you could make a case for any of those dudes.

[King Imp]

The way I see it, GSP vs Diaz will happen regardless of if Nick wins tomorrow so besides my dislike of the Diaz brothers, I would rather see Condit win and then have GSP's first fight back be against him. This way it shakes off any rust GSP will have from being on the shelf for so long and it will get him comfortable with his fixed knee. When the GSP-Diaz fight eventually happens, I want GSP at his best and I'm afraid his first fight back won't be.

[newport king]

I literally can't understand anyone NOT liking the Diaz brothers. Especially Nick. Every time i've seen him or his brother fight, thats what it was. a fight. Condit is a good fighter as well and i'm looking forward to this fight.

Ive never seen this brazilian kid fight thats fighting tonight but i hear he's the truth.

[StanUpshaw]

Utter bullshit.

[Dirtbag]

If you think Diaz won that fight you're insane. If you mean that Condit decided to do his Frankie Edgar impression is bullshit I can't disagree.

[StanUpshaw]

You spelled Kalib Starnes wrong.

[newport king]

Theyve really gotta start putting these things on a little earlier. I was out like a light by the nelson werdum fight

[Chigworthy]

You spelled Kalib Starnes wrong.

The only way to beat that kind of style is the rock hammer.

[StanUpshaw]

http://i44.tinypic.com/35laezr.gif

[Flea_Man]

Can't wait for Sonnen/Silva II.

[styckx]

First prelim fight set an awesome tone.. Monstrous card tonight!

[StanUpshaw]

Countdown to profuse Jesus thanking.

[styckx]

He earned that, and Frankies "I thought I did enough to win" bullshit was douchey. That was a beautiful 5 round fight.. Suck it up, take the lose and congratulate your opponent and say `till next time' or something.

Great fight though.. That whole card from the prelims to the Main event was good.. Rampages out of shape ass was entertaining too. He was gassed after the first round.

[King Imp]

You know the UFC brass has to be salivating over the thought of a Henderson-Pettis rematch now. Hell, I'd be surprised if they haven't already decided that's the next matchup.

[StanUpshaw]

Tate-Rousey starts in a few (http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/111211/1/watch-strikeforce-:-miesha-tate-vs-ronda-rousey.html)

I'm going to try to fap, but I doubt I can get it done before Ronda gets the armbar.

[StanUpshaw]

That's my girl.

[newport king]

That was one of the best fights ive seen in awhile. Also the hottest.

[StanUpshaw]

You know the UFC brass has to be salivating over the thought of a Henderson-Pettis rematch now. Hell, I'd be surprised if they haven't already decided that's the next matchup.

Looks like it's ANOTHER rematch for Frankie Two Times. :facepalm:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/27746/ufc-boss-benson-henderson-vs-frankie-edgar-ii-in-the-works-for-summer.mma

[King Imp]

Looks like it's ANOTHER rematch for Frankie Two Times. :facepalm:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/27746/ufc-boss-benson-henderson-vs-frankie-edgar-ii-in-the-works-for-summer.mma

Considering he had to do it twice himself, I guess it's only fair. I just hope this doesn't become the norm for all title fights.

Even though I'm not a fan of Pettis, I gotta feel for the guy a bit. He was supposed to be first in line for a title shot when the UFC and WEC merged, but he keeps getting bumped back. Looks like it's gonna happen yet again.
"Meanwhile, May's UFC on FOX 3 main-event bout between Nate Diaz and Jim Miller has been declared a No. 1 contender fight, so the winner should be in line for the victor of Henderson vs. Edgar II."

[King Imp]

So, anyone else watching this live season of TUF?

When I first heard about it, it sounded intriguing, but I had no idea how it would work. After seeing it, I'm left thinking what's the big deal. The whole thing about the fight being live after watching taped footage from the week adds absolutely nothing to me. There is still a fight at the end, so what does the live aspect bring to the table?

My only hope is this means there won't be months between the end of the show and the finals fight. I always wanted to see the two in the finals go at it when they are on a roll, not months later.

[StanUpshaw]

So, anyone else watching this live season of TUF?

When I first heard about it, it sounded intriguing, but I had no idea how it would work. After seeing it, I'm left thinking what's the big deal. The whole thing about the fight being live after watching taped footage from the week adds absolutely nothing to me. There is still a fight at the end, so what does the live aspect bring to the table?

My only hope is this means there won't be months between the end of the show and the finals fight. I always wanted to see the two in the finals go at it when they are on a roll, not months later.

Not only will the finals happen in short order, but we'll also see a lot of the build-up to Faber-Cruz in real time. The Finals are June 1 and the coaches fight a month later.

[StanUpshaw]

It was only a matter of time...

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28109/alistair-overeem-fails-pre-fight-drug-test-likely-out-of-ufc-146-title-fight.mma

[StanUpshaw]

PSA: Jon Jones will be conducting another symphony of death coming up in a few minutes

[Snacks]

Yeah this was a total symphony, one that puts you to sleep.

Snooze feast!

[Sue_Bender]

Yeah this was a total symphony, one that puts you to sleep.

Snooze feast!



Sounds delicious!!

[StanUpshaw]

The first couple rounds were great. After that was a letdown.

[Snacks]

Sounds delicious!!

Haha didn't even realize I did feast instead of fest!

[StanUpshaw]

I didn't realize there was a show last night. I'm watching it now.

Holy shit Belcher/Paul Harris was great. I can't remember the last time I got so pumped up during a fight. Fights like this remind me why I love this sport.

[cougarjake13]

I didn't realize there was a show last night. I'm watching it now.

Holy shit Belcher/Paul Harris was great. I can't remember the last time I got so pumped up during a fight. Fights like this remind me why I love this sport.


Belcher Harris was great and so was the beat down lavar Johnson gave

I hate when guys like Diaz showboat like that but at least he backed it up

[sailor]

Belcher Harris was great and so was the beat down lavar Johnson gave

I hate when guys like Diaz showboat like that but at least he backed it up

That was the only fight I saw and he came across as a complete ass.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I enjoy douchebags in douchebag shirts/shorts beating each other up.

[cougarjake13]

I enjoy douchebags in douchebag shirts/shorts beating each other up.


Well the other guy wasn't being a douche
At least not last night anyway

[King Imp]

For as much as I despise both Diaz brothers (Nick moreso than Nate), that was impressive what he did. Kinda sucks that he now has to wait and possibly fight again before getting his shot at the title since he is on a roll right now.

[StanUpshaw]

For as much as I despise both Diaz brothers (Nick moreso than Nate), that was impressive what he did. Kinda sucks that he now has to wait and possibly fight again before getting his shot at the title since he is on a roll right now.

Frankie must have pictures of Lorenzo fucking toddlers or something. It's getting ridiculous.

[spe5150]

DAMNIT!! Cruz tears ACL, out of UFC 148 (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/dominick-cruz-torn-acl-ufc-148-bout-urijah-202517209.html)

[StanUpshaw]

The Cain fight was awesome. Less a fight and more an Aztec sacrifice, but very awesome.

JDS wasn't terribly exciting, but he is so good at what he does. I still think Overeem would have gassed after a round of chasing him all over the octagon.

Good show from top to bottom.

[styckx]

Mir looked like shit..

And this was unexpected..

http://i.imgur.com/VQSMq.gif

[Adolf]

i didnt watch before brock, and i havent watched since brock.. does that make me a gayassfaggot or what

[King Imp]

Arianny Celeste vs Brittney Palmer - Who ya got? :wub:

Both super hot, but I have to lean towards Arianny. Slightly better and more exotic looking and her tits are slightly bigger.

[Fallon]

Brittney all the way.

[StanUpshaw]

Creepy pinkie chick fan since Day 1.

[cougarjake13]

Useless without pics

[Dirtbag]

That was the worst decision I've seen in a long, long time. Piss and moan all you want about how Guida decided to fight tonigt, but Maynard did absolutely nothing in the first 3 rounds.

[StanUpshaw]

That was the worst decision I've seen in a long, long time. Piss and moan all you want about how Guida decided to fight tonigt, but Maynard did absolutely nothing in the first 3 rounds.

How does one judge a track meet?

[King Imp]

That was the worst decision I've seen in a long, long time. Piss and moan all you want about how Guida decided to fight tonigt, but Maynard did absolutely nothing in the first 3 rounds.

How does one judge a track meet?

While Guida is one of my favorite fighters, I wasn't happy with how much he moved out of distance when engaged. That said, he still won the first 3 rounds while Maynard won the last two. Explain when and where Maynard won any of the first 3 rounds. He basically landed nothing while Guida was in and out and landing shots.

[cougarjake13]

Franklin wins again

Totally forgot there was a ppv last night

[Dirtbag]

Franklin is, and his overall career probably will be, criminally underrated because of what Anderson did to him. Assuming Chael wins in 2 weeks I really believe Rich might have another championship run in him.

[StanUpshaw]

While Guida is one of my favorite fighters, I wasn't happy with how much he moved out of distance when engaged. That said, he still won the first 3 rounds while Maynard won the last two. Explain when and where Maynard won any of the first 3 rounds. He basically landed nothing while Guida was in and out and landing shots.

Like I said, how do you judge a fight when there was no fighting?

[King Imp]

So, who do you have in what may be one of the most anticipated rematches? Silva or Sonnen?

Part of me wants to say if Sonnen can execute the same gameplan as he did in the first (minus getting caught in the 5th round), then he could take this, but I have a hard time believing that Silva will allow him to manhandle him again.

I'll go with a Silva sub in the 3rd or 4th round, but he won't take the beating he did before pulling it off this time.

[spe5150]

I'm really torn, too. On one hand I want to say Sonnen can do that again & this time avoid getting tapped, but on the other hand I think Silva has truly had enough of his shit & may win via murder.

I'm just not sure how to take Anderson's break from the nice guy/silent guy bullshit to saying he's going to break every bone in Chael's body. Is Sonnen in his head, in a good way? Or is Sonnen's walk to the cage tomorrow night his own personal Green Mile? Don't know, but I'm amped as hell to find out.

Gun to my head, I gotta go Anderson by TKO.

I'm also more excited than I thought I would be for Forrest/Tito. Never sure what Forrest you're going to get, but he's usually at his best when he fights in Vegas so I'm hoping for a Griffin win but a good showing by Tito in his farewell.

[newport king]

i feel like Maia fights on every single UFC card.

[Sue_Bender]

What a shitty under-card thus far.

[newport king]

God Damnit

[newport king]

Wonder if sensai Segal taught him the technique to punch him while he's down

[King Imp]

I didn't see the whole fight yet, but I saw the ending.

Sonnen's spinning backfist was about as brilliant a decision to make as Andrei Arlovski's flying knee against Fedor Emelianenko. :rolleyes:

[MIKEYDAKEN]

Wonder if sensai Segal taught him the technique to punch him while he's down

no but he taught him to hold the opponents shorts to avoid being taken down.

[cougarjake13]

watching UFC 149 prelims


motherfucker just got knocked out 7 seconds into first round

[spe5150]

I was kinda looking forward to seeing Ryan Jimmo's debut. He has a 16 fight winning streak, was the MFC champ at 205, but other than Sokoudjou I really didn't know any of his opponents so I was hoping to see how well-rounded a fighter he really was.

Well, turns out he's got a helluva right hand. The rest I'll have to wait to see.

[styckx]

Dana White is a such a coward.

He said the entire PPV card sucked EXCEPT the main event which he had the balls to call a "Great technical fight".. The Faber fight was fucking awful. It's the main event and it was 5 rounds of dancing and faber eating leg kicks.. Both guys don't have a mark on them..

Worst UFC PPV in ages and Dana saying we're crazy for booing the main event is a dick move.

[newport king]

Literally fell asleep watching Faber underwhelm as usual

[styckx]

Literally fell asleep watching Faber underwhelm as usual

Faber has gone full blown Tito Ortiz.. He's just there to collect paychecks and block kicks.

[newport king]

Faber has gone full blown Tito Ortiz.. He's just there to collect paychecks and block kicks.

he was actually really good at one point...or maybe it was just hype. but ever since mike brown turned his lights off i don't think he wants to get hit.

[Dirtbag]

His fight against Bowles was great.

[King Imp]

I like Faber a lot, but I'm beginning to think this was nothing more than a "big fish in a small pond" type thing. He looked great and unstoppable in the WEC because, well, it was the WEC.

Now that he's moved to the big time, unfortunately for him and his fans, he's showing that while he may be good, he's not as great as he appeared to be.

[Dirtbag]

The WEC was where, for the most part, the best 145ers in the world fought though. I think it's more that the weight class as a whole was undeveloped, and now Faber is in his mid-30s. He also breaks his hands in round one of every fight. He crushed both Bowles and Mizugaki who are both legit guys. Aldo is a beast and Barao is said to be his second coming. It's impossible to look good against Cruz.

[newport king]

I like Faber a lot, but I'm beginning to think this was nothing more than a "big fish in a small pond" type thing. He looked great and unstoppable in the WEC because, well, it was the WEC.

Now that he's moved to the big time, unfortunately for him and his fans, he's showing that while he may be good, he's not as great as he appeared to be.

I think this applies to most guys who are considered great before they get to UFC. Faber, Wanderlei, Crocop, Fedor, a slew of japanese guys... None really live up to the hype. And yes i realize Fedor never fought UFC.

[King Imp]

So, I've noticed that Ronda Rousey is starting to get a lot of exposure in the UFC.

First she appeared on an episode of TUF, then she's been on the UFC website, and now she's being shown in the crowd at PPVs and even hanging with Dana White.

Anyone else think that Dana may be softening his stance on women's MMA and may allow it in soon? When Cyborg comes back, a Rousey-Cyborg matchup would be killer for them.

[cougarjake13]

So, I've noticed that Ronda Rousey is starting to get a lot of exposure in the UFC.

First she appeared on an episode of TUF, then she's been on the UFC website, and now she's being shown in the crowd at PPVs and even hanging with Dana White.

Anyone else think that Dana may be softening his stance on women's MMA and may allow it in soon? When Cyborg comes back, a Rousey-Cyborg matchup would be killer for them.




maybe he won't go full tilt with a women's division but maybe a fight or two on a card

[spe5150]

UFC 152 tonight from Toronto.

Bisping vs. Stann, Benavides vs. Mighty Mouse for the Flyweight title, & Bones vs. Belfort for the Light Heavyweight title at the top of the card.

Facebook prelims in a little over an hour...

[newport king]

I put 25 on Bonnar to stop Silva inside of 3rds. Could win 267. Itd be a miracle.

[spe5150]

The return of GSP & the unification of the Welterweight Title tonight at UFC 154.
Prelims on FX start in a few minutes.

[newport king]

I really hope condit wins. GSP is boring

[cougarjake13]

watching prelims now


Griggs is a bloody mess

[MHasegawa]

Gonna watch this tomorrow, don't have the $$ to order it.

[TripleSkeet]

Best GSP fight Ive ever seen.

[Dirtbag]

I hope Hendrix flattens him.

[cougarjake13]

anyone watching the belfort v bisping UFC on fx ?


I was curious hat band they played for the opening segment

[newport king]

Missed the open. Glad the first brazilian lost