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cogsdoc

12-28-2008, 06:39 AM

The only solace I have is that Brock Lesnar is now officially the UFC champion for life.

Don't understand this statement. Now he has to fight a guy for the title that has already beat him.

I really like Rampage, I was glad to see him win. But I too was saddened to see Forrest lose, but doubt about it Evans is legit. I did think it was classless for him to do that kiss and grab his jock thing. I will be rooting for the day he gets knocked out.

cougarjake13

12-28-2008, 07:01 AM

Don't understand this statement. Now he has to fight a guy for the title that has already beat him.

I really like Rampage, I was glad to see him win. But I too was saddened to see Forrest lose, but doubt about it Evans is legit. I did think it was classless for him to do that kiss and grab his jock thing. I will be rooting for the day he gets knocked out.

evans reminds me a lot of roy jones jr with that shit

cant believe mir beat noguiera but he pretty much dominated that fight

and jackson looked great, lucky for him dana bailed him out

as for lesnar losing to mir already, 2 things

1 lesnar was dominating until he got caught in a submission
2 lesnar has more exp now and i dont think he'll get caught like that again

cogsdoc

12-28-2008, 09:46 AM

I know that I will be rooting for Mir to beat him again. Not that I like Mir, I think he is a tool, but Lesnar is a complete horse's ass. If you haven't seen his E60 interview on ESPN, please do.

cougarjake13

12-28-2008, 02:48 PM

I know that I will be rooting for Mir to beat him again. Not that I like Mir, I think he is a tool, but Lesnar is a complete horse's ass. If you haven't seen his E60 interview on ESPN, please do.

havent seen it yet but i will check it out

im still rooting for lesnar though

Dirtbag

12-28-2008, 09:41 PM

Don't understand this statement. Now he has to fight a guy for the title that has already beat him.If you think Mir has the skills to beat Lesnar its one thing, but saying Mir will beat Lesnar because he already beat him once is somewhere between saying Tsuyoshi Kohsaka should have beaten Fedor and Hughes should have beaten GSP in their rematches because of how the first fights ended.

cogsdoc

12-29-2008, 05:40 PM

If you think Mir has the skills to beat Lesnar its one thing, but saying Mir will beat Lesnar because he already beat him once is somewhere between saying Tsuyoshi Kohsaka should have beaten Fedor and Hughes should have beaten GSP in their rematches because of how the first fights ended.

I was just reacting to the statement that he is the guaranteed champion. I don't know if Mir can overcome Lesnar's power. But I do know that he is much more skilled in every aspect of fighting outside of wresting (which I believe is the most important aspect of MMA) So it should be interesting.

Dirtbag

01-18-2009, 04:12 PM

I made the right decision last night by not calling in sick to work and actually paying for UFC 93. Lytle/Davis and Horn/Palhares were both good, but hardly worth $45. Shogun/Coleman was an atrocity, and Franklin/Henderson was a fairly typical Dan Henderson fight. I'm kinda glad Rich lost so he doesn't have to be on the dopey show again, but either way would end up with Bisping getting his ass kicked which is good.

Next week should be good. Fedor/Arlovski really could go either way but I'm picking Fedor. WEC 38 is also next week. I'm disappointed that Edgar Garcia vs. Hiromitsu Miura is relegated to the prelims. I used to train with Edgar and he's a savage. He almost tore my arm off at a submission wrestling tournament and I hope he does well. If he makes it to the UFC that'll be three guys from this awful town in the big time.

Crippler

01-18-2009, 08:39 PM

I'm kinda glad Rich lost so he doesn't have to be on the dopey show again, but either way would end up with Bisping getting his ass kicked which is good.

Couldn't agree more. I still think Bisbing should have lost the decision in the Matt Hamill fight & I've never been truly impressed by him. He was good enough to win his season of TUF, but they've made him out to be a beast & I haven't seen it. I'n looking forward to the ass whoopin' he's got coming to him.

Dirtbag

01-24-2009, 07:59 PM

Andrei Arlovski is a fucking idiot.

Crippler

01-25-2009, 06:00 PM

Andrei Arlovski is a fucking idiot.

It's funny, everything I read from Arlovski's post-fight interviews today said, "straight punches down the middle, that was the plan..." and that's what he was doing & it was working. He was winning the round. What would make you go for a flying knee with that much space between the two of you for him to see it coming & react?

I'm not complaining, I was rooting for Fedor even though I enjoy watching Arlovski. I just wanted to see a really good fight & even though I didn't want it to go to the judges, I wanted to see it get past the 1st round.

Looking forward to Fedor/Barnett next.

Dirtbag

01-25-2009, 09:28 PM

I really can't hate on AA too much though. How great would it have been if Fedor's first legitimate loss was from a highlight reel face-smashing flying knee? I pretty much always root for the underdog, but I'd have been annoyed if Arlovski Machida'd his way into a W there.

Win or lose, Fedor has to sign with the UFC after Barnett because there's nobody else to fight. Nelson and Rothwell (Both guys Arlovski just wrecked) are decent fighters, but they wouldn't last long against most of the UFC HWs.

hammersavage

01-25-2009, 09:29 PM

The knockout a few fights earlier in the card was one of the worst I've ever seen. I thought the guy could legitimately die in the ring.

Dirtbag

01-25-2009, 09:38 PM

The knockout a few fights earlier in the card was one of the worst I've ever seen. I thought the guy could legitimately die in the ring.That was really bad, especially given how tough Matt Lindland is. Not the worst I've ever seen though.

Rashad Evans vs. Sean Salmon
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dirtbag666/RashadKTFOSalmon.gif

Salmon was out cold for over 10 minutes.

Epschtein

01-25-2009, 09:55 PM

that affliction card was FANTASTIC , just got a chance to see it now .

fedor is a sick man , andre had me worried for a bit there , his striking looked great , i do like andre too but i didnt want him to win because then dana would run his mouth about how he knew fedor was never really that great etc...

babalu ! he was amazing , that only fight that wasnt that great was buentello's , it wasnt bad because it was an excellent technical win and great gameplan , it just didnt have any highlight reel moments ... paul's jab was out of hand , he was just landing it at will ...

awesome card !

Epschtein

01-25-2009, 10:11 PM

LMAO , this video is great ...

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/affliction/video/x852e8_fedor-the-ufc-champ-killer_sport

edit - oh and wtf are they doing with scott ferrall ? i cant stand to listen to that guy for more than 5 seconds , who decided he has a good voice for radio/broadcasting ?

Epschtein

01-30-2009, 02:19 PM

i thought the weigh-ins were supposed to be on direct tv 101 at 6pm est tonight ?

maybe i got it wrong , anyway they arent on right now , gonna go check on it ...

*edit* well direct tv doesnt have it on yet , but its already streaming at ufc.tv ...

Epschtein

01-30-2009, 02:22 PM

ok i guess it starts at 6:30 , looks like it will be streaming thru ufc.tv too maybe ...

im just watching BJ talking about the UFC Primetime show and how they portrayed him , it is kind of fucked up how dana keeps questioning his conditioning and how seriously BJ is taking the fight , it might be honest but it doesnt seem like the best way to promote the fight hehe ...

Epschtein

01-30-2009, 03:11 PM

lol @ akihiro gono with the fro , love to see him in the ufc !

its on direct tv 101 now without the commentators that are on the stream ...

arianny's rack is so nice , what a cutie she is ...

*edit* wow they were really in favor of guida there , nate even got booed , he will probably submit clay tho if i had to bet on it .

that is the most interesting fight so far on the live broadcast imo .

Epschtein

01-31-2009, 06:10 PM

its on like donkey kong !

guida vs diaz coming up , this could be fight of the night ...

Epschtein

01-31-2009, 06:18 PM

wow i guess im buying into the hype hehe , im so amped up after the guida/diaz walk-ins i cant imagine how fucking out of hand im going to be when bj and georges are about to go ...

i really hope this fight is a classic ...

UFC 94 SPOILERS TO COME

UFC 94 SPOILERS TO COME

...

Epschtein

01-31-2009, 06:24 PM

wow ! what a round , i think you have to give it to guida , he looks great ...

2nd round , great fight , gotta give that one to guida too for takedowns and control , totally smothering diaz , hasnt taken too much damage yet from nate's hands either , awesome ...

edit - gotta be guida , you could make a case for 30-27 i think ... could have been a little more action but a great technical fight ...

cogsdoc

01-31-2009, 06:44 PM

so pissed right now, I accidentally ordered this thing in non-HD, and as far as I can tell there is no way to correct it. Stupid Verizon Fios with no 24 hour customer service. grrrr

cogsdoc

01-31-2009, 07:57 PM

super impressed w/ Machida

cogsdoc

01-31-2009, 08:43 PM

dominant

Dirtbag

01-31-2009, 08:52 PM

Machida better get his damn title shot and Kenny Florian is going to beat BJ Penn.

cogsdoc

01-31-2009, 08:58 PM

Machida better get his damn title shot and Kenny Florian is going to beat BJ Penn.

true and true

Crippler

02-01-2009, 01:59 AM

I still don't like Machida's style, it always feels like he's running away the whole fight...but you can't argue with the results. Damn that was a nasty punch that dropped Silva.

Looking forward to the BJ/Florian fight, but unless this loss fucks with BJ's head I don't know how you beat BJ at 155. Not that I wouldn't love to see Kenny do it.

The evolution of GSP is just remarkable. The way he fought last night it's hard to believe he was even capable of losing as recently as the 1st Serra fight. Now he just looks unstoppable & in position to go on a Matt Hughes-esque run of dominance.

Slumbag

02-09-2009, 08:59 PM

If you remember the War Machine from Ultimate Fighter, he got arrested for fighting in a gay night club.
Former "Ultimate Fighter" badass Jon Koppenhaver, who goes by the aforementioned MMA nickname, was picked up by Las Vegas PD for misdemeanor battery Saturday morning after allegedly getting into a tussle at Krave Nightclub -- a place described by one of their reps as "gay ... but very straight-friendly."

Cops tell TMZ security at Krave was escorting War Machine out of the club after a little brouhaha -- when he allegedly turned on security and starting punching them. Security made a citizens arrest until Las Vegas PD could show up.

These fighters have some skeltons in their closet or something. Holy shit.

Dirtbag

02-10-2009, 12:34 AM

These fighters have some skeltons in their closet or something. Holy shit.Don't judge anyone's behavior based on fucking War Machine. He's one of the few guys I know of who manages to be both a legitimate psychopath yet a complete attention whore at the same time.

cogsdoc

02-10-2009, 05:06 PM

Don't judge anyone's behavior based on fucking War Machine. He's one of the few guys I know of who manages to be both a legitimate psychopath yet a complete attention whore at the same time.

funny I have never considered these things to be mutually exclusive

Lividspiral

02-11-2009, 10:53 AM

im just a big fan of arlovski so i'm looking forward to anytime i get to see him. first ufc payperview i saw was the main event match of tito ortiz vs. ken shamrock. ortiz embarassed shamrock and i was hooked from there on out. never got into boxing as it was just really lame and lots of hugging and grabbing and no action. UFC really does hit the entertainment mark perfectly.

cougarjake13

03-06-2009, 08:03 PM

anyone buying this sats pv ???

jackson vs jardine :drunk:

Dirtbag

03-06-2009, 09:30 PM

Crippler

03-06-2009, 10:33 PM

I'm more interested in Gonzaga/Carwin than Rampage/Jardine. Jardine's either going to win a relatively boring leg-kick ridden decision or he's going to get KTFO'd exactly like the Wand fight.

I bought my tickets for UFC 98 on Thursday too. I really am turning into a Lesnar groupie. :clap:

Then I hope for your sake that the Mir injury (which I've been reading about since this morning) is just a load a crap (which has been subsequently rumored for half the day). Then again, I suppose they would substitute a sacrificail lamb for Lesnar to pound out & still keep him at the top of the card, so you would still get to see your boy.

Dirtbag

03-06-2009, 11:18 PM

Yeah, I read that when I got home from work and lost my shit. Apparently it was very minor surgery and Mir should be OK though.

Crippler

03-07-2009, 10:33 AM

Ah crap, looks like the Mir injury wasn't bullshit: New UFC 98 Main Event to be announced tonight during UFC 96 (http://mmafighting.com/news/2009/03/07/new-ufc-98-main-event-be-announced-tonight)...hopefully it's something more than just moving Serra vs. Hughes up the card, but either way it's not likely to involved Lesnar anymore.

cougarjake13

03-07-2009, 01:56 PM

that sucks

on the other hand if they set it up for ufc 100

Dirtbag

03-08-2009, 08:19 AM

Oof. They did bump up either Rampage/Evans or Machida/Evans if Rampage can't do it in so little time to UFC 98 but I don't think that's worth paying the $400 a seat. Especially if 100 is Lesnar/Mir AND GSP/Alves I would much rather go to that.

How about Matt Hammill last night? I love watching these monstrous wrestlers (Gonzaga/Evans/Hammill) pull out these hideous looking head kicks and knocking people the fuck out.

cogsdoc

03-08-2009, 05:30 PM

Can someone please help me understand what the ref was doing in the Matt Brown/Pete Sell fight. He botched that horribly and could have gotten Sell seriously injured.

Dave's Cackle

03-08-2009, 05:34 PM

From F4WOnline (http://www.f4wonline.com/):

We have tons of news coming out of UFC on the new edition of Wrestling Observer Radio posted last night. An important note is that despite the face-to-face with Rashad Evans and Quinton Jackson last night, that fight is not a guarantee for May. Jackson wasn't told until the very last minute that they wanted to move that fight forward after Mir dropped out of the show (as in, during the meeting where Dana told him he got the best fight bonus), and Jackson, as he noted during the promo, was severely overtrained going into last night and has little desire to go right back into a training camp for May. If he took two weeks off to recover that would leave him with an eight-week camp, which may be pushing it. He will be making a decision later this week, and if he doesn't do the fight it will be Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad.

Crippler

03-11-2009, 03:18 PM

Tapout Owner Killed in High Speed Car Crash (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/tapout-owner-dead-in-car-crash-16532)

You ever see a Ferrari come apart like dat?!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/03/Ferrar_Crash-topshot.jpg

http://www.dailypilot.com/content/articles/2009/03/11/topstory/dpt-crash011209.jpg

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2009/03/medium_3346640303_325a7f47cd_o.jpg

What a shame. Even though I hated his cackle whenever he was interviewed (Inside MMA, etc) he always seemed like a genuinely nice, happy, easy-going guy. Worse, all the evidence seems to point to him being an ass and racing his Ferrari with another guy in a Porsche that lead to this horrific accident. Sad stuff.

Dirtbag

04-18-2009, 11:50 PM

As boring as that fight was, it made me love Anderson even more. After realizing that Leites wanted nothing to do with him and didn't deserve to be in the cage with him, he both started dancing and trying to destroy his knee. Hopefully Marquardt or Maia will actually give him a fight next time.

cougarjake13

04-19-2009, 11:17 AM

is lidell officially done now ??

Crippler

04-19-2009, 02:02 PM

is lidell officially done now ??

He avoided saying it in the cage last night, said he had to take some time & think it through, etc...but Dana sure made it sound that way every time he opened his mouth leading up to this event. Still, if Chuck decides he wants to fight again, I can't see Dana letting him take his star power (whatever little he has left) to another promotion.

Unless you meant in terms of contending for a title, in which case the answer is a resounding YES.

cougarjake13

04-19-2009, 02:05 PM

He avoided saying it in the cage last night, said he had to take some time & think it through, etc...but Dana sure made it sound that way every time he opened his mouth leading up to this event. Still, if Chuck decides he wants to fight again, I can't see Dana letting him take his star power (whatever little he has left) to another promotion.

Unless you meant in terms of contending for a title, in which case the answer is a resounding YES.

yeh i knew he wasnt in any title contention i meant done fighting

cogsdoc

04-19-2009, 07:11 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=Ah3lBMRrAV26JyBYV7FcHno5nYcB?slug=dm-chuck041909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

FezsAssistant

04-21-2009, 01:05 PM

http://mmajunkie.com/news/14645/spike-tv-airs-joe-rogan-comedy-special-after-june-20-tuf9-finale.mma

Joe Rogan comedy special after TUF 9 on June 20 Spike TV Uncensored

Dirtbag

04-24-2009, 06:09 AM

PhishHead

04-24-2009, 06:55 AM

Fedor vs Aoki (http://mmajunkie.com/news/14666/heavyweight-fedor-emelianenko-and-lightweight-shinya-aoki-meet-april-29.mma)? I don't care what kind of retarded rules they come up with, this is a tragedy waiting to happen.

but its not an MMA match, it is straight grappling. There has always been open weight grappling matches..look at Couture v Jacare for that one and Couture actually tied Jacare 0-0.

It is not unusual at all to have open weight grappling matches hence the mundials and ADCC

Dirtbag

04-28-2009, 11:56 AM

but its not an MMA match, it is straight grappling. There has always been open weight grappling matches..look at Couture v Jacare for that one and Couture actually tied Jacare 0-0.

It is not unusual at all to have open weight grappling matches hence the mundials and ADCC

Jacare is a middleweight and Randy is a LHW. A pretty far cry from a lightweight and a heavyweight, even if Fedor isn't exactly Sylvia or Lesnar. I'm not worried about Aoki's physical well-being in... whatever this is, but the size advantage is a little much, even for someone as amazing as Aoki.

Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. I haven't been this pumped for a fight since Lesnar/Couture.

PhishHead

04-28-2009, 12:15 PM

Jacare is a middleweight and Randy is a LHW. A pretty far cry from a lightweight and a heavyweight, even if Fedor isn't exactly Sylvia or Lesnar. I'm not worried about Aoki's physical well-being in... whatever this is, but the size advantage is a little much, even for someone as amazing as Aoki.

Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. I haven't been this pumped for a fight since Lesnar/Couture.

Yea but then you would not be a fan of the Mundials or ADCC where it is straight grappling/BJJ in openweight class where guys from over 99kg down to under 66kg compete against each other.

in 2007 Marcelo and Galvano came in 2nd and 3rd respectively and they both are in the under 77kg class which is 169lb and under. and they competed with guys who are between under 66kg and over 99kg

BJJ was created to show that size does not matter. That is exactly what the Gracie's wanted to promote that no matter the size and strength difference the person with the best skill set should win. This is why they have the Absolute class at the mundials and adcc to see who has the best skill. So to say that this is a crazy matchup it is not that insane considering that happens at those competitions every year. Now if it comes out that it is an MMA match, then yes that is insane but again pride always did their OWGP's and the LW's tried to compete but couldnt because it is a little different than straight grappling.

and technically Randy is a HW.

Dirtbag

04-28-2009, 05:43 PM

I haven't seen any of that stuff to be honest. But from what I hear guys like Nate Marquardt and Jeff Monson do very well in them and they aren't exactly the most exciting fighters. I assume it'd be like boxing is for me. Whenever I happen to catch boxing on TV I'm yelling at guys to either kick or take down the other guy, and I assume I'd just be sitting there yelling for knees and elbows in BJJ competitions.

FezsAssistant

04-28-2009, 05:45 PM

Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin shall be a doosy in Philly on Aug 8th.
BJ Penn vs Florian ain't bad either.

Ritalin

04-28-2009, 06:20 PM

Silva will wipe Griffin. Forrest is too slow.

Dirtbag

04-28-2009, 10:27 PM

PhishHead

04-29-2009, 09:00 AM

Forrest is a monster. He's not gonna get bullied in the clinch like Franklin did. He also has a vastly underrated ground game, and if Anderson can be said to have a weakness, its submissions (see the Takase and Chonan fights). There's a chance he could get his head knocked off, but I just don't see it happening. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Forrest by UD.

Forrest is one of the, if not the biggest LHW, he is HUGE. Silva won't be able to bully him, but I think it will be a great fight. Forrest by UD is a great pick. I can't wait to see the line on the fight, if Silva is a huge favorite I will put some money on Forrest, he always surprises me.

btw Fedor beat Aoki by ankle lock, or thats the best I can get from the translation on the kampiro website.

King Imp

05-24-2009, 02:02 PM

The result of last night's title fight as performed by the movie Goodfellas. :laugh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tmimp67/machidavsevansgoodfellas.gif

Crippler

05-24-2009, 02:10 PM

That's damn funny.

CuntagiousChris

05-24-2009, 02:33 PM

The result of last night's title fight as performed by the movie Goodfellas. :laugh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tmimp67/machidavsevansgoodfellas.gif

that is awesome i wish i was talented
:thumbup:

cougarjake13

05-24-2009, 03:27 PM

thats fucking great

NateCantDance

05-27-2009, 05:44 AM

I'm really excited about Machida holding the LHW belt. Hopefully his success with striking in a style other than Muay Thai or Boxing will encourage other fighters to adapt. I'm bored with every fighter throwing the standard jab, jab, overhand right combination over, and over, and over with the occasional roundhouse head kick mixed in .

NateCantDance

05-28-2009, 01:00 PM

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cffrs2.jpg

Crispy123

05-28-2009, 01:44 PM

newport king

05-30-2009, 10:32 PM

brown vs. faber 2. thoughts? comments?

Dirtbag

06-02-2009, 12:17 AM

Holy shit. (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15060/kimbo-slice-scores-the-ultimate-fighter-10-slot.mma) Kimbo's putting his money where his mouth is. I will definitely be checking this season out.

King Imp

06-02-2009, 08:36 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cffrs2.jpg

Holy shit, I can't stop laughing from that. :thumbup:

brown vs. faber 2. thoughts? comments?

Really, REALLY looking forward to this one. I just hope it isn't quick like last time. I see Faber pulling out a decision win.

Holy shit. (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15060/kimbo-slice-scores-the-ultimate-fighter-10-slot.mma) Kimbo's putting his money where his mouth is. I will definitely be checking this season out.

I know a lot of people are saying that he will get his ass kicked, but I honestly don't see it. Sure, he would get manhandled by the veterans of the UFC, but on this show with some of the scrubs they have, I see Kimbo having no problem beating these fighters. To protect his fragile ego though, I wouldn't put it past Dana White to bring in a ringer to try and take Slice out as quickly as they can just so White can say "told ya so".

hammersavage

06-07-2009, 12:17 PM

Holy shit. (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15060/kimbo-slice-scores-the-ultimate-fighter-10-slot.mma) Kimbo's putting his money where his mouth is. I will definitely be checking this season out.

I agree. Kimbo being in the cast will definitely make this season worth watching. Smart move on both sides. Also some ex-NFL players.

While the controversial Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson has stolen the spotlight by joining the show's cast, "The Ultimate Fighter 10" will be unique for another reason: the number of additional cast members who once competed in the National Football League.

Sources close to the cast members have exclusively told MMAjunkie.com at least four former NFL players have been selected to compete on "The Ultimate Fighter 10," a heavyweights-only season of the UFC's reality series that debuts Sept. 16 on Spike TV.

The list includes Marcus Jones, Matt Mitrione, Brendan Schaub and Wes Shivers.

Barring injury or any last-minute replacements, all are expected to join Ferguson, a former bare-knuckle brawler and YouTube legend who became the biggest star of the now-defunct EliteXC promotion, in the UFC's 16-man tournament.

styckx

06-07-2009, 12:27 PM

Really looking forward to tonights event. The WEC has grown on me a lot.

Dirtbag

06-07-2009, 12:48 PM

So is Arlovski finished? He may be the quickest and most athletic HW in the world, but if you breathe on the guy wrong he goes to sleep. I felt really bad for him last night.

TripleSkeet

06-07-2009, 12:54 PM

To protect his fragile ego though, I wouldn't put it past Dana White to bring in a ringer to try and take Slice out as quickly as they can just so White can say "told ya so".

I doubt it. Thats not the moneymaking move. The moneymaking move is to put him with bums for awhile, try to build him up, and get him into a match with Lesnar. That PPV would be HUGE.

Im betting that he ends up in the UFC whether he wins TUF or not.

FezsAssistant

06-07-2009, 12:56 PM

I'll be watching the WEC tonight. I have no idea who will win between Brown and Faber. Both are badasses.
I can't wait for Miguel Torres to fight again (August, I think).

cougarjake13

06-07-2009, 04:34 PM

I agree. Kimbo being in the cast will definitely make this season worth watching. Smart move on both sides. Also some ex-NFL players.

of that list the only former nfl-er i know is marcus jones

def will be watching wec tonight

styckx

06-07-2009, 04:49 PM

Almost time!! Can't wait for this

cougarjake13

06-07-2009, 04:51 PM

Almost time!! Can't wait for this

love your faith no more siggys

styckx

06-07-2009, 04:53 PM

love your faith no more siggys

:) Thanks

styckx

06-07-2009, 05:14 PM

Well, that first match was boring

styckx

06-07-2009, 07:29 PM

Great fight. I wouldn't mind a 3rd rematch. Broken hands, 5 rounds.. Awesome fight

King Imp

06-07-2009, 09:50 PM

Jens Pulver really needs to retire now. He was great, but the key word is WAS. It's obvious he's past his prime and that his fighting style can't compete with today's MMA.

Very disappointing championship match. I mean it was a decent fight, but it sucks that we didn't get to see what would have happened if not for that injury.

Hats off to Mike Brown as he is a hell of a fighter, but I have to believe that Faber would have definitely won if he stayed healthy.

Let's hope for a 3rd go round, that is if Brown can get past Jose Aldo (what a fucking knee that was).

Crippler

06-08-2009, 03:59 AM

That was a hell of a fight considering one fighter was without his hands for 3+ rounds. I would definitely like to see them fight again. Wonder how long Faber will need to recover, that right hands was a mess.

styckx

06-08-2009, 06:36 AM

It's a shame he mangled his hand. Do they wrap hands in WEC? So odd he broken his hand, if they do tape hands in WEC I would think it was a shitty tape job.

PhishHead

06-08-2009, 06:54 AM

It's a shame he mangled his hand. Do they wrap hands in WEC? So odd he broken his hand, if they do tape hands in WEC I would think it was a shitty tape job.

Are you serious?? Fighters break their hands all the time or at least injure them in every fight. It is a 4 ounce glove it is not stopping anything. Tape only helps so much. I use to injure my hands everyday when i sparred. It is completely different from boxing where you have a nice 8-12oz glove. Especially when you hit a fighter at the top of the skull, which is the hardest part of the body.

and yes they tape hands in every sport where punches are thrown, WEC Bellator, UFC, Affliction, Strikeforce, etc...

here is the link to his broken hand x-rays that he posted on his twitter.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8932&zoneid=13

Overall I was sad because I wanted Faber to win, but I thought for having one hand(which was also injured) he did a great job. It will be brown v aldo, loser faces faber, winner faces fabiano and then the two winners of those fights will face each other. Or faber moves down to 135 to face Torres for a big payday.

I was sad to see pulver go out like that but I hope he does retire because it is sad to see a once great fighter get humiliated.

Cerrone will get his rematch with Varner and I hope this time he destroys him, varner is such an ass and that knee barely grazed him.

styckx

06-08-2009, 07:02 AM

here is the link to his broken hand x-rays that he posted on his twitter.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8932&zoneid=13

God damn that's a nasty ass break. I know they injure their hands all the time, I just can't remember the last fight I watched where it rendered a hand entirely useless like that.

I agree though, with a broken hand and the other injured he held in there longer then I'd expect anyone to. Balls and a pain thresh hold I can't even imagine having.

King Imp

06-15-2009, 08:32 AM

So is Arlovski finished? He may be the quickest and most athletic HW in the world, but if you breathe on the guy wrong he goes to sleep. I felt really bad for him last night.

You think that's bad? At least he lost to an MMA guy.

Try being a former HW champ and getting knocked out in 9 seconds by someone who is 48 yrs. old. :lol:

Ray Mercer KO's Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds!

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I love this because I never liked Sylvia and always thought he was very overrated.

NateCantDance

06-15-2009, 08:40 AM

Wow, he went down like a ton of shit. :thumbup:

Dirtbag

06-15-2009, 09:39 AM

I'm more disappointed in Tim weighing in at 310 than the quick KO. And getting knocked out by a "MMA guy" is better than by an Olympic gold medalist? Even Kimbo wasn't stupid enough to fuck with the hands of a former world champion boxer and submitted him, even if he is pushing 50.

King Imp

06-15-2009, 09:59 AM

Oh, I'm not saying that Mercer doesn't have credentials. He most certainly does.

What I'm saying is you keep hearing how a boxer can't hang with an MMA guy because of the extra tools. Add in the fact that Mercer is close to 50 and probably not the most skilled and Sylvia was considered one of the best in the weight class, it's pretty sad (on Sylvia's part) that he was beaten so easily.

Dirtbag

06-15-2009, 10:29 AM

I dunno. I've always thought there was something more embarrassing about getting the living shit kicked out of you for 15 minutes (i.e. Velasquez/Kongo) than eating a huge shot early in a fight, especially against somebody who has huge knockout power.

Anyway, I blame Fedor for this. After what's happened to Andrei and Tim I'm now terrified for Josh Barnett.

EddieMoscone

06-15-2009, 11:01 AM

You think that's bad? At least he lost to an MMA guy.

Try being a former HW champ and getting knocked out in 9 seconds by someone who is 48 yrs. old. :lol:

Ray Mercer KO's Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds!

I love this because I never liked Sylvia and always thought he was very overrated.

This was not an MMA match. Originally this was supposed to be a boxing match in a cage. Regulatory mumbo jumbo put that to an end, since boxing matches in the US need to be held in a ring. So....Sylvia and Mercer had a "gentleman's agreement" to do a striking only match in a cage. Sylvia did not have the option of taking him to the ground.

King Imp

06-15-2009, 01:23 PM

Ah, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info.

I still stand by my statement though that Sylvia is incredibly overrated.

Dirtbag

06-15-2009, 02:42 PM

I have to agree. I was one of Tim's biggest supporters during his title run, but I guess it simply was true that the UFC's HW division was just shit at the time. Outside of Tim and Andrei, there was nothing. When Jeff Monson and Gabriel Gonzaga are the best you have your title isn't very impressive.

King Imp

06-15-2009, 09:03 PM

I loved it when Couture came back and exposed Sylvia for the fraud that he is.

NateCantDance

06-22-2009, 05:30 AM

Did anyone see the Sanchez/Guida fight this weekend? You gotta love Guida, every single fight that he's in is an all out brawl.

Flea_Man

06-22-2009, 06:56 AM

Did anyone see the Sanchez/Guida fight this weekend? You gotta love Guida, every single fight that he's in is an all out brawl.

Guida is a mad man. That face kick he took and still continued proved what a badass he is. Same with Diego. TUF finale on Saturday was one of the best night of fights I've seen in a while. Check it out.

July 11 at UFC 100, the era of Lesnar continues :)

hammersavage

06-22-2009, 12:42 PM

Did anyone see the Sanchez/Guida fight this weekend? You gotta love Guida, every single fight that he's in is an all out brawl.

Guida is apparently one of the toughest bastards that has ever walked the planet. If you told me 10 seconds into that fight that it would have gone this distance, I wouldn't have believed you. It was a miracle he survived the first 2 minutes, let alone went the whole fight and looked decent afterwords.

But the ref who had it 29-28 in his favor is a moron. Even when Sanchez was on his back, he was in control with the elbows. It should have been 29-27 Sanchez on every card.

Dirtbag

06-22-2009, 12:54 PM

There's tons of posts all over the MMA blogs about how the 10 point must system has to go, and after this week I'm in 100% agreement. It probably cost Wanderlei Silva a win and made Clay Guida look like he was even in that fight. They don't even use that outdated mess in Olympic boxing anymore and it was never right for MMA. Even the various suggestions about making more liberal use of 10-10 and 10-8 rounds would be a vast improvement but the whole scoring system needs a major overhaul.

NateCantDance

06-25-2009, 08:04 AM

But the ref who had it 29-28 in his favor is a moron. Even when Sanchez was on his back, he was in control with the elbows. It should have been 29-27 Sanchez on every card.

I don't know, I had the fight 10-8, 9-10, and a toss up in the last round. In round 3, Dirty was retreating the entire time and eventually got taken down. I could see Guida getting that round and pulling a draw.

But for sure, the 10 point must system is not adequate for MMA. Guida got absolutely obliterated in the fight, but in my above paragraph I've got it as an even fight on the cards.

PhishHead

06-25-2009, 09:03 AM

use the pride system to scoring fights it works out much better. Even Dana said he is a bigger fan of prides system than the current one.

RaysFever

07-02-2009, 06:01 PM

Did anyone see the Sanchez/Guida fight this weekend? You gotta love Guida, every single fight that he's in is an all out brawl.

Guida is unbelievable. I was at the fight last year against Huerta, and that was a brawl, too. He always gives the fans a great show.

Dirtbag

07-02-2009, 07:47 PM

Guida is unbelievable. I was at the fight last year against Huerta, and that was a brawl, too. He always gives the fans a great show.

Nate Diaz disagrees.

Flea_Man

07-02-2009, 08:22 PM

So what's everyone's picks for UFC 100?

I think Bisping vs. Henderson will be the surprise of the night. Henderson is going to destroy him.

Alves can definitely beat GSP. He's powerful, aggressive, and fast, especially for how big he is. But GSP is just at the top of everything so I'm going GSP by split decision.

I'm really really really hoping Lesnar doesn't make a mistake again and just pounds the shit out of Mir.

NateCantDance

07-02-2009, 10:16 PM

Nate Diaz disagrees.

Huh?

Dirtbag

07-03-2009, 12:02 AM

Guida laid on Diaz for 15 minutes, and it wasn't even the same type of L'n'P that the Stevenson fight was. Its also the only thing he did when he was "in control" of Sanchez. I'm not saying he doesn't have flashes of brilliance, as the Huerta fight can attest, but he's boring as often as he is exciting.

sr71blackbird

07-07-2009, 06:12 PM

"Rampage" Jackson awkwardly dry humps hot female reporter:

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brettmojo

07-10-2009, 11:42 AM

cogsdoc

07-10-2009, 04:53 PM

I hope he gets his leg broken this time...dumb hick

cougarjake13

07-10-2009, 04:57 PM

looks wwe-ish

Dirtbag

07-10-2009, 07:55 PM

Just a demonstration of what's gonna happen to Mir's face.

walking joint

07-11-2009, 07:25 AM

can't wait for the PPV tonight...hoping Lesnar kicks his ass this time.

Bob Impact

07-11-2009, 08:40 PM

Wow... Mir got owned.

joeyballsack

07-11-2009, 08:44 PM

Henderson got the knockout of the night though.

I was so happy to see Bisping on his ass.

TripleSkeet

07-11-2009, 10:09 PM

Henderson hit Bisping with a punch that wouldve knocked out a rhino. And then followed it up with the most telegraphed drop punch in the face Ive ever seen.

Lesnar turned Mirs face in Humpty Dumpty. The UFC fans should give this guy some fucking respect. Hes murdered everyone thats been in the ring with him. I know it kills them to see a former WWE guy basically destroying every UFC heavyweight in his path but tough shit. Find someone to beat him or shut the fuck up.

And now Lashleys on his way in too. I dont know why it kills these people to admit that some of these "fake" wrestlers, are tough motherfuckers. Yea their fights may be fake, but they perform 250-300 days a year. Not 4.

NateCantDance

07-12-2009, 04:23 AM

Lesnar turned Mirs face in Humpty Dumpty. The UFC fans should give this guy some fucking respect. Hes murdered everyone thats been in the ring with him. I know it kills them to see a former WWE guy basically destroying every UFC heavyweight in his path but tough shit. Find someone to beat him or shut the fuck up.

It's got nothing to do with him being a WWE guy. It's got more to do with him being a classless fucking retard. Giving fans the finger. Talking shit to an opponent after beating his ass. Spitting at the camera and talking like a caveman in post fight interviews. Brock's going to be the champion for a LONG time, there's nobody that's going to stop him except for maybe Fedor, so what does he stand to gain by being hated? This isn't wrestling, he doesn't need a character to keep fans interested. All he needs is a belt. STFU and let your fists talk.

styckx

07-12-2009, 04:37 AM

Henderson hit Bisping with a punch that wouldve knocked out a rhino. And then followed it up with the most telegraphed drop punch in the face Ive ever seen.

Best knock out I've seen in quite sometime. Just brutal.

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Flea_Man

07-12-2009, 06:41 AM

This isn't wrestling, he doesn't need a character to keep fans interested. All he needs is a belt. STFU and let your fists talk.

Yes they do. UFC is a business. You have to hype fights, create drama/tension to get the casual fan. The diehards will order every month, but Dana White is looking for the casual fan who is interested because thats where the money is. Lesnar brings in the buyrates and his smack talk sells it. That's why guys like Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, etc. are the most popular UFC guys. Personality = buyrates.

Why weren't you pissed when Mir was insulting Lesnar at every opportunity?

Lesnar is a force to be reckoned with. Makes me really happy. And you bet Dana is doing cartwheels with all the talk this is getting.

And Bisping getting his fucking mouth handed to him RULED. That last superman forearm was the icing on the America cake.

Flea_Man

07-12-2009, 07:02 AM

btw this was from the other day. Posted this on my Facebook. God does this make me so happy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKx6_K5MgxE

west milly Tom

07-12-2009, 07:46 AM

That right hand was ridiculous. He was out long before he hit the mat. That's the kind of ko that makes your wife beg you not to fight ever again.

NateCantDance

07-12-2009, 08:37 AM

.

Why weren't you pissed when Mir was insulting Lesnar at every opportunity?

Everybody talks shit before the fight, that's how they sell tickets. You know that. You don't notice that every fighter on every card happens to have a long standing personal grudge with their current opponent? :laugh: 99% of the time it's all phony.

I guess I see the need to manufacture tension and hatred before the fight to sell tickets, but I don't understand the need to act like a cunt after you've cashed your paycheck. It doesn't make me want to pay for Brock's next pay per view.

Dirtbag

07-12-2009, 09:55 AM

Its not every fight. Anderson Silva and Rich Franklin have been in love with each other since the first fight. There was none between Mir and Nogueira or Forrest and Rashad. I think that when there is animosity it is real, its just not as bad as they make it look.

I totally understand how Brock hated the WWE lifestyle, but I think there was a big part of it that he loves. He's not being phony when he says he'd rather just live up in the Minnesota woods where he can be left alone to train and hunt, but I think every once in awhile he does need that outlet to be an asshole. And now that he can't come on TV every Monday night and be one, he gets to be a huge one every few months. And even then, he was pretty respectful to Randy, even more after the fight than before it. Mir had everything he got coming to him before, during, and after his beatdown.

Bob Impact

07-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Everybody talks shit before the fight, that's how they sell tickets. You know that. You don't notice that every fighter on every card happens to have a long standing personal grudge with their current opponent? :laugh: 99% of the time it's all phony.

I guess I see the need to manufacture tension and hatred before the fight to sell tickets, but I don't understand the need to act like a cunt after you've cashed your paycheck. It doesn't make me want to pay for Brock's next pay per view.

See im the exact opposite, I liked Lesnar going out there, doing EXACTLY what Mir claimed he knew Lesnar was going to do, and fuckin owning Mir by doing it. Probably doesn't hurt that I can't stand Mir.

DarkHippie

07-12-2009, 01:28 PM

I heard that Dana White really chewed the fuck out of lesnar afterwards for the way he was acting. Lesnar was completely classless. If he keeps it up I would not be surprised if they strip the belt from him or at least fine him some big bucks

Bob Impact

07-12-2009, 02:27 PM

DarkHippie

07-12-2009, 02:35 PM

I would doubt that, the man brings buy rates.

a fine would be appropriate though

cougarjake13

07-12-2009, 02:38 PM

Bob Impact

07-12-2009, 02:40 PM

a fine would be appropriate though

I could see a fine, just rewatched the interview afterwards and going after a sponsor is never really appropriate as the champ.

cougarjake13

07-12-2009, 02:49 PM

I could see a fine, just rewatched the interview afterwards and going after a sponsor is never really appropriate as the champ.

yeh thats the only dumb part i dislike of what he did, thats part of who allows him to make the money hes making and will make

Bob Impact

07-12-2009, 03:08 PM

But seriously, holy shit did he own Mir.
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TripleSkeet

07-13-2009, 09:19 PM

Anyone that thinks he really got chewed out by White is just fooling yourself. When they were in the ring together Dana had a fucking smile from ear to ear. Brock HAD to say that in order to save face with Bud Light for the UFC, Dana White couldnt care less. Looks like he learned something from Vince McMahon. If your gonna do something, claim ignorance, offer an apology and promise punishment will be handed out.

Hes got the monster heel he needed in the UFC. Whoever said this makes you not want to buy Lesnars next ppv, you are in the minority. Because now his next fight people are either going to buy to see him destroy his opponent, or buy it to see him get beat. UFC hasnt had a guy that could draw the haters into buying a fight like this since Tito Ortiz.

And if you think all these boos he gets arent because hes a WWE guy youre fucking nuts. Watch every one of his fights. He was booed his very first fight and he lost and handled it with class. They dont care. Alot of these diehard UFC guys hate pro wrestling and love calling it fake. I have a friend who is one of them and I have been breaking his balls mercilessly ever since Brock tore Couture apart. It literally eats at him that Lesnar is the champ.

Dirtbag

07-13-2009, 09:47 PM

He definitely said something to him. Dana basically said on O&A today he didn't care about the other stuff, just stay the fuck away from his sponsors.

TripleSkeet

07-13-2009, 10:52 PM

He definitely said something to him. Dana basically said on O&A today he didn't care about the other stuff, just stay the fuck away from his sponsors.

UFC has 8 of the ten highest selling PPVs of the year. They can get sponsors a dime a dozen. Like I said, he had to SAY that he said something but I severely doubt it was anything like they were trying to make it out to be.

NateCantDance

07-14-2009, 05:12 AM

I'd always read that the UFC has had problems getting large mainstream sponsors. Shitty little sponsors like Xience aren't gonna pay the bills.

Dirtbag

07-14-2009, 07:03 AM

Bud Light is probably the biggest sponsor in the sports world. They don't need their heavyweight champion and biggest star trashing them. Its not like if he was trashing Mickey's.

Bob Impact

07-14-2009, 12:32 PM

Bud Light is probably the biggest sponsor in the sports world. They don't need their heavyweight champion and biggest star trashing them. Its not like if he was trashing Mickey's.

This.

Dirtbag

07-21-2009, 07:54 AM

I still haven't found it on a particularly reliable source, but it seems Kimo Leopoldo is dead. (http://www.inquisitr.com/29889/ufc-veteran-kimo-leopoldo-dead-aged-41/) Just like if someone asked me "who is the MMA fighter most likely to wander into the desert alone and die" I'd say Evan Tanner, I'd say Kimo was the most likely to die a steroid-induced pro wrestling-esque death.

NateCantDance

08-03-2009, 12:40 PM

Fedor resists Dana's advances yet again.

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King Imp

08-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Fedor resists Dana's advances yet again.

http://i28.tinypic.com/t6xru9.gif

Holy shit, that is funny! :lol:

Ritalin

08-04-2009, 06:08 AM

Dirtbag

08-04-2009, 09:55 AM

I'm with Fedor on this one. He won't be any more marketable than he is now and he might as well try to leverage that against the UFC in order to co-promote.

The UFC heavyweight champ will never be the legit number 1 in the world until he either beats Fedor or Fedor retires.
It's not Brock's fault Fedor's management is a bunch of crazy assholes. You don't see anyone clamoring for him to fuck Dana over and run to Strikeforce for significantly reduced pay.

Ritalin

08-04-2009, 10:08 AM

It's not Brock's fault Fedor's management is a bunch of crazy assholes. You don't see anyone clamoring for him to fuck Dana over and run to Strikeforce for significantly reduced pay.

I'm not blaming Brock. It's not his fault. But the fact still remains that Fedor is the number one heavyweight in the world until he retires or someone beats him.

I can understand why Dana wants to keep his thumb over the fighters and keep UFC the top promoter in the sport. But I can also understand why Fedor should want as big a piece of the pie of any card he fights on as he can get. It's exactly like Oscar de la Hoya and Golden Boy. These fighters take the physical risk, why shouldn't they be allowed to bank on themselves? It's true that the fights - and the fighters - today have as much value as they do because of the success of the UFC. But that's yesterday's news. This fight is over where the sport goes from here.

Fallon

08-04-2009, 11:46 AM

Dirtbag

08-04-2009, 12:57 PM

I'm not blaming Brock. It's not his fault. But the fact still remains that Fedor is the number one heavyweight in the world until he retires or someone beats him.If Brock keeps tearing through everyone the top MMA promotion in the world puts in front of him and if Fedor keeps fighting nobodies outside of it, Brock will be #1. Fedor doesn't have to lose. Alistair Overeem is the only thing resembling top competition at heavyweight right now outside of the UFC. And I assume he's still got nothing on the ground.

TripleSkeet

08-04-2009, 02:53 PM

I'm not blaming Brock. It's not his fault. But the fact still remains that Fedor is the number one heavyweight in the world until he retires or someone beats him.

If he keeps fighting bums for no name promotions instead of joining the elite guys that staus is eventually going to fade. Besides if youre the greatest fighter nobodies ever heard of, does it even fucking matter? Because even though hes a big name to the MMA diehards, most of the population wouldnt know who he was if he walked right into them.

We get it, youre your own man, stop being a fucking douchebag and come fight where the best fighters are. He just looks fucking ridiculous anymore.

PhishHead

08-05-2009, 04:22 AM

I'm not blaming Brock. It's not his fault. But the fact still remains that Fedor is the number one heavyweight in the world until he retires or someone beats him.

I can understand why Dana wants to keep his thumb over the fighters and keep UFC the top promoter in the sport. But I can also understand why Fedor should want as big a piece of the pie of any card he fights on as he can get. It's exactly like Oscar de la Hoya and Golden Boy. These fighters take the physical risk, why shouldn't they be allowed to bank on themselves? It's true that the fights - and the fighters - today have as much value as they do because of the success of the UFC. But that's yesterday's news. This fight is over where the sport goes from here.

If Brock keeps tearing through everyone the top MMA promotion in the world puts in front of him and if Fedor keeps fighting nobodies outside of it, Brock will be #1. Fedor doesn't have to lose. Alistair Overeem is the only thing resembling top competition at heavyweight right now outside of the UFC. And I assume he's still got nothing on the ground.

Alistair top competition??? You do realize this is the same man that has a glass chin and was knocked out by Rua (a LHW) twice in pride and belfort? Alistair is probably the most overrated HW out there.

It isnt necessarily Fedor's fault, M-1 wants to co-promote everything with the UFC, why would the UFC agree to that? I love Fedor but seriously what has he done as of late? Just man up fight in the ufc and finish your career.

NateCantDance

08-05-2009, 09:18 AM

Flea_Man

08-08-2009, 11:16 PM

so anyone else feel really bad for Forrest after that fight? ooooooffffffffffffffffffff

weekapaugjz

08-08-2009, 11:23 PM

so anyone else feel really bad for Forrest after that fight? ooooooffffffffffffffffffff

what happened?

Dirtbag

08-09-2009, 12:01 AM

what happened?He got raped. There's no other word to describe what happened.

razorboy

08-09-2009, 12:03 AM

He got raped. There's no other word to describe what happened.

And people wonder why I avoid this "sport" like the plague.

Russel P

08-09-2009, 05:31 AM

And if you think all these boos he gets arent because hes a WWE guy youre fucking nuts. Watch every one of his fights. He was booed his very first fight and he lost and handled it with class. They dont care. Alot of these diehard UFC guys hate pro wrestling and love calling it fake. I have a friend who is one of them and I have been breaking his balls mercilessly ever since Brock tore Couture apart. It literally eats at him that Lesnar is the champ.

That would pretty much describe me. I'll admit it, I HATE seeing that 'roided up cartoon of a man win fights. I've rooted against him every time he's stepped in the octagon. I can't stand Lesnar. I don't believe he's ever cut down to 265, there's no doubt in my mind that body was created by juicing, his "personality" is that of an ogre, and I haven't seen much in the way of a skill set -it's all brawn and little technique. Not that he's needed a ton of technique so far. At least guys like Tank Abbot were colorful ogres. But I don't *hate* wrestling, it's up there with The Hills to me. I don't understand its appeal.

King Imp

08-09-2009, 09:24 AM

Well, that makes it 0-2 for Kenflo in title fights (which I love since I never liked him much).

Highly unlikely he'll ever get another title shot. So you think he may look to move to the Lightweight division of the WEC or will he foolishly try to move up to Welterweight in the UFC? There is really nothing left for him in the LW now so why fight there if you aren't going to get a title shot?

joeyballsack

08-09-2009, 10:28 AM

Griffin got the shit kicked out of him last night, he was completely outclassed by Silva.

Bob Impact

08-09-2009, 10:31 AM

Griffin got the shit kicked out of him last night, he was completely outclassed by Silva.

Funniest knockout in recorded human history.

Ritalin

08-09-2009, 10:39 AM

Silva will wipe Griffin. Forrest is too slow.

Forrest is a monster. He's not gonna get bullied in the clinch like Franklin did. He also has a vastly underrated ground game, and if Anderson can be said to have a weakness, its submissions (see the Takase and Chonan fights). There's a chance he could get his head knocked off, but I just don't see it happening. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Forrest by UD.

Forrest is one of the, if not the biggest LHW, he is HUGE. Silva won't be able to bully him, but I think it will be a great fight. Forrest by UD is a great pick. I can't wait to see the line on the fight, if Silva is a huge favorite I will put some money on Forrest, he always surprises me.

Cough cough.

Flea_Man

08-09-2009, 10:39 AM

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Bob Impact

08-09-2009, 10:44 AM

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Dirtbag

08-09-2009, 11:09 AM

Cough cough.
Hey, I said he wouldn't get bullied in the clinch and he didn't. He got picked apart from the outside and made to look like a total fool. Not the same thing.
Well, that makes it 0-2 for Kenflo in title fights (which I love since I never liked him much).

Highly unlikely he'll ever get another title shot. So you think he may look to move to the Lightweight division of the WEC or will he foolishly try to move up to Welterweight in the UFC? There is really nothing left for him in the LW now so why fight there if you aren't going to get a title shot?Kenny was completely ineffective against BJ Penn. You really think he's stupid enough to fuck with GSP? If he can make the cut he would really be a force at 145, but I don't know if he'd want to move out of the limelight of the UFC. Even after last night he's still the second best in the division.

Fallon

08-09-2009, 05:08 PM

That was a pretty boring pay-per-view. None of the fights were that interesting.

cogsdoc

08-09-2009, 05:24 PM

Anyone else thinking the best of Forrest might be behind him? Maybe all of the beatings he has taken have taken a toll on him. I know Silva isn't exactly a fair test, but sadly Forrest has become an easy knockout since Jardine. Very upsetting to see.

TripleSkeet

08-09-2009, 08:15 PM

Silva made it look like that was Forrests first fight out there.

But I must say this, I got a call to come hang out at Z bar after watching the fight so I go down there and my buddy who bartends there gives me this bracelet to drink upstairs, I go up and sit down at the bar and order a drink and turn to my left and Forrest was sitting right next to me.

He was really cool with all the fans there taking pictures and doing shots with everyone. As was Antonio Silva, Jamie Varner and Josh Neer. As well as the entire Philadelphia Flyers team.

Jamie Varner may be the coolest fighter on the planet. Not only was he hanging with us doing shots and taking pictures, but he was encouraging it. He let my friend get a picture choking him out. Ive never seen a fighter let a fan do that before. All in all an awesome night that had me out til 4am the night before my sons christening.

hanso

08-09-2009, 09:45 PM

Mixed Midget Amputee fighting ftw!

Dirtbag

08-09-2009, 10:18 PM

Silva made it look like that was Forrests first fight out there.It was exactly what I picture when some jackass who thinks he's tough says he could hang in the UFC. I think the major damage was done on the first punch Silva landed, but Forrest still looked like a complete amateur.

Jamie Varner may be the coolest fighter on the planet. Not only was he hanging with us doing shots and taking pictures, but he was encouraging it. He let my friend get a picture choking him out. Ive never seen a fighter let a fan do that before. All in all an awesome night that had me out til 4am the night before my sons christening.That's pretty surprising. I've heard almost nothing but bad things about Jamie Varner. My brother met him at a local show here and said he was a total dick. Maybe he was just having a bad night.

King Imp

08-09-2009, 11:00 PM

Kenny was completely ineffective against BJ Penn. You really think he's stupid enough to fuck with GSP?

No. That's why I said "foolishly move up."

Oh, by the way, Holy Shit Brian Bowles! :ohmy:
I figured he might have a puncher's chance, but I honestly never saw that coming.

Dirtbag

08-09-2009, 11:12 PM

That was the death knell for WEC ever being on pay per view. All they had to sell was first Urijah Faber, then Miguel Torrez and they've both been beaten definitively. Both those guys were also talked about as top five pound-for-pound. I wonder if they just weren't up to the hype or if it means that anything really can happen in MMA and Penn, St. Pierre, Silva, Machida, Lesnar, and Fedor aren't as untouchable as people think.

TripleSkeet

08-10-2009, 03:14 PM

That's pretty surprising. I've heard almost nothing but bad things about Jamie Varner. My brother met him at a local show here and said he was a total dick. Maybe he was just having a bad night.

Its possible I guess. What I noticed among the fighters were that the guys that came to tell them "Man Ive seen every fight! Youve got such a great ground game. Can I tongue your balls...etc. etc." pretty much got ignored or just mocked. (Griffin asked one guy if he was gay)

But the people that just wanted to drink and have a good time they were very cool with. Here are some of the pictures...

Doing shots...
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3964/jamievarner.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/jamievarner.jpg/)

Choke out..
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/676/patchokeoutvarner.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/patchokeoutvarner.jpg/)

Ritalin

08-11-2009, 06:49 AM

Those pics are pretty damn funny.

TripleSkeet

08-11-2009, 07:51 PM

Awesome article in the Philly Daily News today...

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20090811_Bernard_Fernandez__Boxing_should_bow_to_U FC_s_Dana_White.html

King Imp

08-14-2009, 08:46 PM

So, who do you guys have in tomorrow night's big women's fight? Carano or Cyborg?

Even though I love Carano and want her to destroy Cyborg and shut up all her critics, I can't see her possibly beating that steroid freak. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I just can't see it happening.

Slumbag

08-14-2009, 08:51 PM

{Sigh}
http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/strikeforce-carano-cyborg/gina-carano.JPG

King Imp

08-14-2009, 10:03 PM

{Sigh}
http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/strikeforce-carano-cyborg/gina-carano.JPG

Oh, that poor poor (and incredibly hot) woman. :wub:

Slumbag

08-14-2009, 10:04 PM

Oh, that poor poor (and incredibly hot) woman. :wub:

She's so pretty, it's almost criminal she's gonna be in the ring with this monster.
http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/strikeforce-carano-cyborg/cristiane-cyborg-santos.JPG

King Imp

08-14-2009, 10:07 PM

She's so pretty, it's almost criminal she's gonna be in the ring with this monster.
http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/strikeforce-carano-cyborg/cristiane-cyborg-santos.JPG

So glad to see they have a strict drug testing program in that organization. :dry:

Slumbag

08-14-2009, 10:14 PM

So glad to see they have a strict drug testing program in that organization. :dry:

Dude, I don't even think they checked for a cock and balls.

King Imp

08-14-2009, 10:20 PM

Dude, I don't even think they checked for a cock and balls.

I'm sitting here laughing my ass off over that. :lol:

Ritalin

08-15-2009, 04:15 AM

Yeah, that chick needs to turn her head and cough.

KingModem

08-15-2009, 08:17 PM

I accidentally watched this fight. How does Carano win any fights if she cant put up a good defense in the first round?

King Imp

08-15-2009, 10:20 PM

I accidentally watched this fight. How does Carano win any fights if she cant put up a good defense in the first round?

Because she's probably never fought a man before. Seriously, it's almost unfair as Cyborg is clearly roided up. No woman is gonna be able to withstand that unatural power.

Dirtbag

08-15-2009, 10:29 PM

Mousasi is a bad, bad dude. I doubt he's got what it takes to dethrone Anderson but he's got a better shot than anyone in the UFC except maybe Marquardt or Henderson.

newport king

08-30-2009, 06:35 AM

coture/nogueira? anyone watch?

cogsdoc

08-30-2009, 08:22 AM

newport king

08-30-2009, 12:06 PM

my problem with the ufc is that every event is on ppv...i realize they do that 1 thats free, but who has the money to order this weekly? it would have been great a few years ago when i got free ppv.

cogsdoc

08-30-2009, 12:43 PM

my problem with the ufc is that every event is on ppv...i realize they do that 1 thats free, but who has the money to order this weekly? it would have been great a few years ago when i got free ppv.

Don't know if it's the same around you, but I know of at least 5 bars nearby to me that show every event. It would definitely help you save some money

cougarjake13

08-30-2009, 01:25 PM

my problem with the ufc is that every event is on ppv...i realize they do that 1 thats free, but who has the money to order this weekly? it would have been great a few years ago when i got free ppv.

its one a month not weekly unless im missing something

and within a few weeks or months they show the ppv free on spike

plus like mentioned above theres plenty of bars that show it with no cover

Dirtbag

08-30-2009, 01:32 PM

I watched, it was a decent event. I was never that impressed with the card, but it was as good as could have been expected of a card that featured a non title fight that would have been much more interesting 5 years ago.Every title fight in every division for the foreseeable future is going to be a one sided ass kicking. Couture/Nogueira may have been fight of the year (and almost definitely UFC fight of the year) and Franklin/Belfort has a lot of potential. Watching Anderson or Brock mutilate people is great, but they don't make for the best fights.

Don't know if it's the same around you, but I know of at least 5 bars nearby to me that show every event. It would definitely help you save some money.All the bars around me are packed with cheap assholes during fights. If someone like me can find two or three people to kick in $10 bucks for each PPV you should be fine.

cogsdoc

08-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Couture/Nogueira may have been fight of the year (and almost definitely UFC fight of the year)

I don't know, maybe it's becase I really wanted Couture to win, but the fight wasn't that thrilling. It was hugely impressive to watch Randy keep recovering and coming back strong, but I never felt like he was going to win

Dirtbag

08-30-2009, 03:58 PM

I expected the whole fight to look like most of round 3. Randy on top, not really doing much but exerting control. The stand up from both guys was great and Nog's submission attempts and sweeps were amazing.

newport king

09-05-2009, 02:32 PM

it probably is monthly like u said, but theres been alot recently, which probably made it feel weekly....as far as the bar situation goes, i hate hanging out with guys that wear tight fitting affliction/ed hardy shirts and think they can kick some ass at a local bar. and unfortunately i usually catch the ufc on spike by accident. if its not in high def i dont watch it, couldnt even tell u what channel spike is....fucking comcast.

cogsdoc

09-05-2009, 04:26 PM

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/05/quinton-rampage-jackson-out-of-ufc-107-fight-against-rashad-evans/

cougarjake13

09-06-2009, 02:06 PM

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/05/quinton-rampage-jackson-out-of-ufc-107-fight-against-rashad-evans/

wow

didnt know he could act

Dirtbag

09-06-2009, 03:17 PM

wow

didnt know he could act

Could he possibly be worse than Mr. T?

Ritalin

09-06-2009, 05:01 PM

I pity the fool says things like Dirtbag just did.

Dirtbag

09-13-2009, 03:12 AM

Wow, Randy Couture vs Brandon Vera rumored for UFC 105. They finally found Randy a fight he's not supposed to lose.

King Imp

09-24-2009, 11:16 AM

Willmore

09-24-2009, 02:39 PM

Ritalin

09-24-2009, 06:38 PM

Is it just me, or does this season have the worst "coaches." Jackson is a mentally unstable idiot and Rashad is a glorified club fighter who got lucky (barely drew against Tito, got an aging Liddell and overrated Forrest) and is now considered a draw, despite a beating from Machida?

I think you swing and miss twice here. Jackson is crazy like a fox and somehow went from cage fighter in Japan to playing Mr. T in an A Team remake, which is a pretty big leap on the face of it. I never get mentally unstable from him. If anything, he's got that whole act under control. He knows exactly what he's doing.

Rashaad was a Big Ten All American wrestler and has very fast hands. Good good standup. I think a lot of people are going to lose to Machida. I don't want to gush about him, but I think Rashaad is a lot more than a club fighter.

TripleSkeet

09-24-2009, 07:28 PM

Simply because Dana White is an egomaniac baby, I'm predicting that Kimbo loses next week on TUF.

I say that because they made sure to show that he would be fighting next week and because Dana always has to be right, he probably made it so people knew to tune in so he could basically say "Told ya so." Oh wait, this is Dana White talking. It would be more like "I fucking told ya fucking so motherfucker!"

Even though I never was a fan of Kimbo, I do want him to win just so he can shut Dana up and because this "Big Country" hick thinks he's hot shit simply because he held a title in a rink dink organization.

If Kimbo loses this fight Dana White is the dumbest businessman of all time. I never bought into the Kimbo hype, but the guy seems legitimately humble and trying to learn. Its not his fault he caught fire and was able to make a shitload of money through hype. What dumb motherfucker wouldnt do the same???

Now White has this cash cow sitting in his lap and if instead of working it for maximum entertainment and cash value he lets him get destroyed simply to say "I told you so", that would just be the dumbest business move ever. Id love to see the ratings for next weeks show and, if he gets beat and leaves, the ratings for the next episode.

For the record, I hope Kimbo murders that fat fuck. For an MMA artist, I look in better shape then that manatee.

Willmore

09-24-2009, 09:00 PM

I think you swing and miss twice here. Jackson is crazy like a fox and somehow went from cage fighter in Japan to playing Mr. T in an A Team remake, which is a pretty big leap on the face of it. I never get mentally unstable from him. If anything, he's got that whole act under control. He knows exactly what he's doing.

Rashaad was a Big Ten All American wrestler and has very fast hands. Good good standup. I think a lot of people are going to lose to Machida. I don't want to gush about him, but I think Rashaad is a lot more than a club fighter.

And this (http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/25/rampage-charged-in-insane-chase/) whole thing was just a little misunderstanding?

big Ten All American isn't exactly the end-all of arguments. That's an accomplishment that is good to have on the resume when you're starting out, but by this point, Rashad should have MMA accolades, not memories of his college glory days. Did he have 2 conescutive good fights? Yes. Liddell and Griffin lost to him fair and square. But the fight against Machida, the fight against Bisping and Ortiz, those are 3 fights that are far more indicative, in my opinion, of his true talent. Ok, he's not a club fighter, but, at best, he's a gatekeeper of the division, that perennial contender who is probably never going to hold a belt long term.

Now, if Mousasi were in the UFC, the Machida-Mousasi fight even Mousasi-Silva would be really interesting.

Dirtbag

09-25-2009, 12:40 AM

Ritalin

09-25-2009, 05:32 AM

And this (http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/25/rampage-charged-in-insane-chase/) whole thing was just a little misunderstanding?

big Ten All American isn't exactly the end-all of arguments. That's an accomplishment that is good to have on the resume when you're starting out, but by this point, Rashad should have MMA accolades, not memories of his college glory days. Did he have 2 conescutive good fights? Yes. Liddell and Griffin lost to him fair and square. But the fight against Machida, the fight against Bisping and Ortiz, those are 3 fights that are far more indicative, in my opinion, of his true talent. Ok, he's not a club fighter, but, at best, he's a gatekeeper of the division, that perennial contender who is probably never going to hold a belt long term.

Now, if Mousasi were in the UFC, the Machida-Mousasi fight even Mousasi-Silva would be really interesting.

Ok, I'll meet you in the middle here. I don't think Rashaad is the class of the division by any means. I think he has the tools, but I don't think he fights very smart. He'll get another shot.

TripleSkeet

09-25-2009, 07:51 AM

I haven't seen the show yet. Who exactly decided that it would be Nelson (regardless of his awful gut, probably the best guy on the show) against Kimbo? I don't remember Dana ever picking fights before. And I'm surprised that they manged to keep this a secret so well. Didn't the results of last season get leaked before it even started airing?

Kimbo is on Rampages team, Nelson is on Evans team. Rampage picked the first two fights, lots both. Evans picked this fight. Dana doesnt pick the fights (at least not on camera) but this is a reality show...which means its about as "real" as Gilligans Island. (As far as not having a structure goes)

There have been all kinds of rumors on the web about this. One rumor said Nelson knocks Kimbo out bad in the first round, another said Kimbo wins a close decision.

But this is the best rumor I saw...(you can google the ultimate fighter 10 spoilers) and youll see it on a few sites if you dont believe me)

Supposedly Kimbo is walking by the pool where Wes Sims is sunbathing in a Superman speedo, and busts his balls about it. Sims gets in Kimbos face, Kimbo swings and misses, Sims gives him a high kick that knocks him out cold and into the pool, then sits down. The other fighters jump into the pool to save Kimbo from drowning and Rampage has to give him mouth to mouth to revive him.

That may be the funniest bullshit Ive ever heard in my life.

Dirtbag

09-25-2009, 12:01 PM

Its entirely believable up to Sims throwing a high kick.

Ritalin

10-24-2009, 05:22 PM

Anyone watching tonight? Live prelims on spike right now.

I think I'm going to buy this card. Some nice fights

Tenbatsuzen

10-24-2009, 07:17 PM

Anyone watching tonight? Live prelims on spike right now.

I think I'm going to buy this card. Some nice fights

I'm watching now.

Ritalin

10-24-2009, 08:02 PM

I hate the wrestlers. So damn boring.

GregoryJoseph

10-24-2009, 08:42 PM

I hate the wrestlers. So damn boring.

I agree.

And they all throw punches like barroom brawlers, not trained fighters.

Ritalin

10-24-2009, 08:44 PM

Fucking Machita. He's a snooze, too. I thought shogun won that fight.

cogsdoc

10-25-2009, 06:38 AM

The worst decision I have seen since Bisping / Hammel

Crispy123

10-25-2009, 11:25 AM

I watched 104 last night. The Main card wsa anti-climactic. Seems like Shogun was more aggresive and landed a few more hits to me. The Cain fight ended weird as well. I'm glad i didnt pay for this.

Fallon

10-25-2009, 06:09 PM

That was the most boring event I've seen in a long time. None of the fights were entertaining to watch, just slow. They need to start stacking the cards instead of the main event and then just a bunch of guys to fill the card.

Dirtbag

10-26-2009, 12:09 AM

I didn't have a big problem with the Velasquez fight. Yes, in a vacuum that was a bad stoppage. But Mazzagatti did Rothwell a favor by not stopping the fight in the first round so he was already on borrowed time and barring a miracle haymaker he wasn't going to win that fight.

Either way, just further proof they will be scraping Cain off the mat in pieces if he ever gets in there with Lesnar.

Ritalin

10-26-2009, 05:24 AM

Fallon

10-26-2009, 09:24 AM

Lesnar?

I think Couture beats him. I think Gonzaga beats him. I think Frank Mir could beat him - not a lock.

Cain is just another overhyped wrestler.

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Ritalin

10-26-2009, 11:33 AM

No, Fallon, I'm saying Randy, Gonzaga and maybe Mir beat Velasquez, not Lesnar. I didn't write that clearly.

I don't know who beats Lesnar. I wish Strikeforce/Zuffa would just copromote a Lesnar-Fedor fight. It'll never happen, but that's the fight I want to see.

Willmore

10-26-2009, 06:58 PM

104 was boring as hell. Can't wait for Fedor vs Rogers. Live on CBS. No more 50$ snooze fest cards (not that I pay for them, but still).

Fallon

10-26-2009, 07:23 PM

Lesnar vs. Carwin rescheduled to UFC 108.

Looks like Brock may have the swine flu.

Dirtbag

10-27-2009, 12:31 AM

Very, very suspicious timing just like Mir's knee injury before 98. Now we have 2 very mediocre main events (Ortiz/Griffin and Penn/Sanchez, and honestly I'd still consider 107 pretty lame even if Rampage/Evans was going down) and an unbelievable (Lesnar/Carwin and Silva/Belfort) 108. If Dana really cared about the fans he'd just cancel 106 (one of the 500,000 cards in Vegas) and combine the good fights with 107 in Memphis. I don't think I'll be paying for either 106 or 107 now both on principle and on quality.

Ritalin

11-07-2009, 07:13 PM

Bullshit stoppage. Fedor may have finished it, but he hadn't yet.

Fallon

11-07-2009, 07:32 PM

Bullshit stoppage. Fedor may have finished it, but he hadn't yet.

I have to agree, they have to let these things go a little longer. Even five more seconds.

Crispy123

11-07-2009, 07:37 PM

Bullshit stoppage. Fedor may have finished it, but he hadn't yet.

Yeah Rogers was lookin good til Fedor rocked him.

The Mayhem/Jake Shields fight was a litlle disapointing. I don't disagree with the decision but Mayhem should have struck more and if he had put on the rear naked 5 seconds earlier it would have been over in the 3rd round.

smiler grogan

11-07-2009, 07:52 PM

newport king

11-07-2009, 08:16 PM

he had him....and a half second later... WHAMMO!!! i agree with the fight being stopped a little quick. however if u noticed he could have hit fedor in the first round till he was dead, mccarthy wasn't stopping shit. too much money invested in that guy. he'll be given EVERY chance to get out of it.

Dirtbag

11-07-2009, 08:26 PM

Shields is a bore. A second-class GSP at best. He'd get mauled by the AKA guys who wouldn't be taken down at will and LnP'd.

newport king

11-07-2009, 08:54 PM

the shields fight put me to sleep. thank god i dvr'd this and fast forwarded thru...other than that, every fight on this card was good.

Ritalin

11-08-2009, 04:20 AM

Shields is Matt Hughes all over again. Boring.

Dirtbag

11-08-2009, 05:20 AM

Shields is Matt Hughes all over again. Boring.

Hughes is 43-7 with 15 (T)KOs and 18 subs. Just because his last few fights were beatings from GSP and less-than-stellar decisions over Lytle and Serra don't negate the fact that prime Hughes was a killing machine. I would compare Shields to what GSP has become recently, but GSP is just more comfortable not going for the finish. Shields doesn't have the ability.

cougarjake13

11-10-2009, 03:07 AM

This was my first time seeing Fedor live. I am amazed by his speed and power not to mention his ability on the ground. He looks like any Eastern European living in Greenpoint Brooklyn, until he moves that is.
I can understand the argument that it was stopped a lil' early but Rogers was hit on the button and rolled over immediately without trying to fight back, so a bit early yeah but I think Rogers was spared some hammer fists before the inevitable stoppage.

he had him....and a half second later... WHAMMO!!! i agree with the fight being stopped a little quick. however if u noticed he could have hit fedor in the first round till he was dead, mccarthy wasn't stopping shit. too much money invested in that guy. he'll be given EVERY chance to get out of it.

it looked a lil early to me , kinda like oh shit heres our chance to end it now in fedors favor before he gets knocked the fuck out out

Ritalin

11-10-2009, 04:17 AM

Hughes is 43-7 with 15 (T)KOs and 18 subs. Just because his last few fights were beatings from GSP and less-than-stellar decisions over Lytle and Serra don't negate the fact that prime Hughes was a killing machine. I would compare Shields to what GSP has become recently, but GSP is just more comfortable not going for the finish. Shields doesn't have the ability.

Hughes was a decent MMA fighter, and I don't care about his record. He used his outstanding wrestling ability to take down and lay on top of his opponent. I've seen fights where they stood up the fighters because nothing was happening on the ground, and they NEVER did that with Hughes. They'd just let him lay around for half the fight.

Dull. Tough, fair, athletic, but dull.

Willmore

11-10-2009, 06:49 AM

it looked a lil early to me , kinda like oh shit heres our chance to end it now in fedors favor before he gets knocked the fuck out out

You could see Rogers was done. He rolled over, gave up his back and started covering his head. With Fedor's ground game it would have been over in 2 seconds. It might have been an early stoppage, but it was early by 2 seconds.

Look at the Tim Sylvia fight, it was the same thing, only Rogers was rocked harder.

TripleSkeet

11-15-2009, 12:00 PM

This sucks...
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/11/14/ufc-heavyweight-champ-brock-lesnar-facing-serious-health-crisis/

Brock Lesnar's health is said to be in very bad shape and it will be a while before he can fight again. Lesnar went to Canada last week to try and rest after being ill for some time. He collapsed while in Canada and was rushed to the hospital. He is suffering from mono and another illness that he has requested confid...entiality with UFC as to what it is.
Dana White said on Saturday that he promised Lesnar he would keep the disease private and said he doesn't have cancer or AIDS. The disease he has is said to be extremely serious and there are at least two things wrong and there may be more
Dana is going to Minnesota to try and get Lesnar into the Mayo Clinic or another medical facility for treatment.

Willmore

11-18-2009, 07:21 AM

This sucks...
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/11/14/ufc-heavyweight-champ-brock-lesnar-facing-serious-health-crisis/

Where's Dr. House when you need him?

TripleSkeet

11-18-2009, 08:19 AM

Wow.

According to WCCO.com, UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar is battling a disease called diverticulitis.

The disease is known to form small pouches in the digestive system.

Brock Lensar's chiropractor Larry Novotny has told the Associated Press the UFC Heavyweight Champion has been released from the hospital and is at home in Alexandria, Minn.

Novotny added Lesnar will not be making a decision on his fighting career until his health situation has improved.

Dixie Carter wrote on her twitter page yesterday that Lesnar had undergone minor surgery, so it is a good sign he has been released so quickly after that.

Willmore

11-18-2009, 08:25 AM

Wow.

https://health.google.com/health/ref/Diverticulitis

Doesn't sound too bad. But from what's been said, he's got more than one thing wrong with him. So maybe there's something more to it.

TripleSkeet

11-18-2009, 08:30 AM

https://health.google.com/health/ref/Diverticulitis

Doesn't sound too bad. But from what's been said, he's got more than one thing wrong with him. So maybe there's something more to it.

Health wise he should be ok. But theres a good chance he may never fight again. Which fucking blows.

newport king

11-22-2009, 05:02 AM

didnt watch the ortiz griffin fight, got tired and went to sleep. from what i heard ortiz got ripped off.

Ritalin

11-22-2009, 05:22 AM

I read that Griffin clearly won the fight. I went to sleep after Koshchek won. A good card up to that point, lots of good fights.

TripleSkeet

11-22-2009, 06:35 AM

I watched the fight, heres how I saw it. Ortiz whipped Griffins ass in Round 1. 2nd Round shouldve been a draw. Griffin won the last one in what was basically just punches and kicks.

Griffin didnt clearly win anything. Even the decision was split. But see I just judge by who I saw win the fight. Their scoring system is weird. They get points for every weak ass leg kick they can get to hit the other guys thigh. To me, you can do that 100 times, but the fact that you got put on your back and had your head split open bleeding everywhere, means you lost the fight.

joeyballsack

11-22-2009, 06:50 AM

I thought Ortiz won the fight also. I really have to question the judge that gave all three rounds to Griffen.

cogsdoc

11-22-2009, 07:22 AM

I watched thought Ortiz won round 1. 2nd round was the closest, but I thought Griffen had the edge. 3rd round was all Griffen. Like was said earlier nothing brutal in the third round, but Griffen was busy the whole time and Ortiz barely through a strike in the round. Plus his 2 take down attempts were stuffed. After the fight you heard Ortiz tell Griffen that he had nothing left in that third round.

Then in true Ortiz fashion in the post fight interview he reveals an injury to explain the loss (bulging disc) and when the crowd started booing he challenged them all to fight with a "cracked skull" because he had that too. All night long Ortiz was trying hard to be a good guy, but he can't help but come off as a tool.

To sum up, I agreed with the decision, but thought it should have been closer on the cards.

Good night of fights overall.

Dirtbag

11-22-2009, 12:08 PM

You guys should work for the NSAC. One takedown and some minor GnP = winning a round?

Chigworthy

11-22-2009, 04:42 PM

Leg kicks have won many fights.

TripleSkeet

11-22-2009, 07:50 PM

You guys should work for the NSAC. One takedown and some minor GnP = winning a round?

Splitting a guys face open wins over a few leg kicks in my book 10 times out of 10. Sorry.

I did say Griffin won the 3rd round though. I just thought the fight was a draw. It was the money move though. Tito won the first fight by decision which was close, Griffin won this one. Sets up another big money fight. Anything close was going to go to Griffin from the start.

Willmore

11-22-2009, 10:06 PM

I thought the scoring was fair enough. Ortiz did get the takedowns but he hardly ever did anything on the ground. Griffin on the other hand did a good job of boxing Ortiz standing up, he had some great kicks going. Certainly Griffin didn't make it easy for the judges, and he could have been more aggressive. Still, Ortiz hardly ever landed anything of import during the entire fight. Takedowns do not a winner make. Griffin was the deserved winner. Ortiz is over the hill. His generation of fighters are rapidly being pushed out by guys who are more athletic, are more gifted in more disciplines and are just plain better due to the popularization of the sport.

Dirtbag

11-23-2009, 12:18 AM

Splitting a guys face open wins over a few leg kicks in my book 10 times out of 10. Sorry.

Cutting Forrest is half a baby step above cutting Fedor. He also got up, if not swept Tito, each and every time. I won't even argue that Tito won round 2 too hard, but Forrest won round one and IMO won round 3 10-8. Tito attempted a takedown and a half and got neither of them and threw maybe two punches, neither of which connected. Tito in round 3 was probably the worst thing I've seen in the Octagon since Thales Leites not wanting to fight Anderson.

Chigworthy

11-23-2009, 05:25 AM

Splitting a guys face open wins over a few leg kicks in my book 10 times out of 10. Sorry.

Griffin cuts if you look at him.

Willmore

11-23-2009, 06:41 AM

Griffin cuts if you look at him.

So do Twi-Hards.

cougarjake13

11-23-2009, 05:04 PM