View Full Version : Are you afraid of organic?
DiabloSammich
02-10-2008, 07:31 AM
Yesterday I was in the store buying chicken broth. On the shelf was a variety of chicken broth. College Inn, I believe, in the cardboard container. Next to it was the very same chicken broth, only organic. Same producer, same size, same sodium content, same exact thing, only organic. And here's the kicker...
It was the same price.
At this point I wondered, Why would anyone buy the non-organic product? Is there some sort of stigma against organic products that I don't know about? Would you have bought the "regular" chicken broth?
I can accept the argument where people don't want to pay more for the same product because they don't perceive a difference. But the same price?
underdog
02-10-2008, 07:44 AM
I don't think organic stuff keeps as long as non-organic stuff.
And yes, there's a huge stigma attached to organic. There's a good 30 - 40% of the population that probably thinks its for "fags".
I love organic and naturally grown food products. They taste better.
DiabloSammich
02-10-2008, 07:49 AM
I don't think organic stuff keeps as long as non-organic stuff.
And yes, there's a huge stigma attached to organic. There's a good 30 - 40% of the population that probably thinks its for "fags".
I love organic and naturally grown food products. They taste better.
I disagree. We buy organic bananas, and they turn brown later than non-organics all the time. We also buy organic milk, and the expiration date is usually double that of the regular.
Do any of you seriously think that organic is for "fags"? I won't take offense, I'm just curious.
Ritalin
02-10-2008, 07:56 AM
organic food is for fags literally made me laugh out loud.
BoondockSaint
02-10-2008, 07:59 AM
I've don't think it associated with fags. I think it's more associated with hippies. I try to buy organic whenever I can.
MadMatt
02-10-2008, 08:02 AM
I am afraid buying organic products will throw off the delicately balanced levels of artificial colors, flavors, and preservatives already in my system.
Who wants that?
I'm drinking a glass of organic milk right now. It's fucking delicious.
Neckbeard
02-10-2008, 08:04 AM
It's because organs are for losers. I want food that's gonna keep turning me into a robot.
Team_Ramrod
02-10-2008, 08:09 AM
I would probably buy organic food if the price was more comparable to non-organics.
The fact that you found some that was the same price is odd, but if you can find it cheap then buy it.
fag
Doctor Z
02-10-2008, 08:11 AM
I remember trying organic broccoli once, just to see if there was a difference, and I ended up getting sick from it. From that point on, it was only good ole' pesticide-soaked, steroid-grown broccoli for me.
led37zep
02-10-2008, 08:13 AM
I'm drinking a glass of organic cum right now. It's fucking delicious.
This has nothing to do with the conversation Epo, furthermore, I don't think its something to brag about.
I try and buy Organic whenever its available. When I really think about it, its crazy that fruit and vegetables have to be labeled "Organic" in the first place. Shines a bright light on how many chemicals are in our food.
underdog
02-10-2008, 08:25 AM
I disagree. We buy organic bananas, and they turn brown later than non-organics all the time. We also buy organic milk, and the expiration date is usually double that of the regular.
Really? The organic stuff I buy usually goes bad quicker, as it's usually lacking in the preservative department.
I've don't think it associated with fags. I think it's more associated with hippies.
I think those two would be the same to the people scared of organic.
sailor
02-10-2008, 08:27 AM
i see no benefit to organic food. i've tried it and they taste the same and i don't believe there's any health benefit (yes, i know it's a selling point of the organic). if was cheaper i'd probably buy it.
A simple test is to take a burger made from organic/non-processed beef (like a Five Guys) and compare it to the sludge served at McDonalds or Burger King.
i see no benefit to organic food. i've tried it and they taste the same and i don't believe there's any health benefit.
Take yourself completely out of non-organic for awhile - you will notice it in a big way when you go back - both in taste and the way your body reacts.
DiabloSammich
02-10-2008, 09:16 AM
i see no benefit to organic food. i've tried it and they taste the same and i don't believe there's any health benefit (yes, i know it's a selling point of the organic). if was cheaper i'd probably buy it.
Ok, how about the same price, as in above example?
FUNKMAN
02-10-2008, 09:18 AM
i recently started buying organic greens for salads, mixed greens, spinach... good stuff!
sailor
02-10-2008, 09:38 AM
Ok, how about the same price, as in above example?
i was wondering that. probably. most of the time i've looked at organic stuff it's had a crazy mark-up. i think in this case the store screwed up and slapped the same price on both without realizing they were different.
lleeder
02-10-2008, 09:40 AM
Yesterday I was in the store buying chicken broth. On the shelf was a variety of chicken broth. College Inn, I believe, in the cardboard container. Next to it was the very same chicken broth, only organic. Same producer, same size, same sodium content, same exact thing, only organic. And here's the kicker...
It was the same price.
At this point I wondered, Why would anyone buy the non-organic product? Is there some sort of stigma against organic products that I don't know about? Would you have bought the "regular" chicken broth?
I can accept the argument where people don't want to pay more for the same product because they don't perceive a difference. But the same price?
I don't think organic stuff keeps as long as non-organic stuff.
And yes, there's a huge stigma attached to organic. There's a good 30 - 40% of the population that probably thinks its for "fags".
I love organic and naturally grown food products. They taste better.
I think all broth is for fags. Liiiiiinger lllllloooonnnnggggerrrrrrr!!!!!
Snoogans
02-10-2008, 09:57 AM
This thread is full of fag hippies
DiabloSammich
02-10-2008, 09:58 AM
This thread is full of fag hippies
We know, you're afraid of the long-hairs.
Hick.
King Hippos Bandaid
02-10-2008, 10:06 AM
im cool with organic foods
http://www.applegatefarms.com/images/product/og_sunday_bacon.jpg
Fezticle98
02-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Has anyone registered godhatesorganics.com?
O&A FAG SIN
EddieMoscone
02-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Are you afraid of organic?
The only thing I'm afraid of is paying $300 at Whole Foods in Manhasset and only coming home with 2 lbs of cheese, some chicken breast and chocolate torilla chips...
Thebazile78
02-10-2008, 02:43 PM
I think there are some things that it really makes sense to buy organic and other things that it's just a status symbol.
There are some mainstream grocery stores that offer their own organic brand - Stop and Shop, for one, has reasonably priced organic products that are of comparable quality as the standard high-end brands.
ShopRite has started offering more store-brand organics lately, especially as people start to get more obsessed with what they perceive as a benefit to buying organic.
If you're buying stuff like chicken broth or milk in a carton, chances are good that it's an "ultra-high pasturized" (UHP) product, which has a very long shelf-life. I happen to use free-range chicken broth (sometimes low sodium, sometimes not) in a carton in a lot of cooking because I think it tastes better and has a richer mouth feel than something from a can.
As for organic milk, well, it doesn't upset my stomach at all, while regular milk will make me sick no matter what.
The next step from "organic" is going to be "locally grown" and "sustainable" for things like fruit and vegetables, meat and eggs, and milk.
It's more difficult to find products like this when you're in a place where the winters are harsh and lots of the farmland is inconvenient to your suburb. I mean, I could do the locavore thing with fewer problems during the summer...but would have to learn to can and preserve stuff if I wanted to have things other than squash and potatoes in the winter! That takes a lot more space, time and equipment than I currently have in my kitchen and my life.
sr71blackbird
02-10-2008, 03:42 PM
My father refuses to eat anything Organic because he believes it was fertilized with "shit"
FUNKMAN
02-10-2008, 04:01 PM
organic is good, orgasmic is better...
sailor
02-10-2008, 04:14 PM
for the most part, free range chicken isn't all that free and they still spend the vast majority of their life in a coop.
Thebazile78
02-11-2008, 05:46 AM
for the most part, free range chicken isn't all that free and they still spend the vast majority of their life in a coop.
I just learned that the other week. Which bothers me because chickens are pretty freaking filthy animals, so thinking about their living on top of each other really skeeves me out.
Add to that the fact that I cannot stand the taste of chicken and we have a justifiable reason for me to give up eating chicken. (Ew.)
DiabloSammich
02-11-2008, 06:48 AM
I just learned that the other week. Which bothers me because chickens are pretty freaking filthy animals, so thinking about their living on top of each other really skeeves me out.
Add to that the fact that I cannot stand the taste of chicken and we have a justifiable reason for me to give up eating chicken. (Ew.)
I must say, Bazile, you're the first person I have ever heard say that they can't stand the taste of chicken.
And chicken, for the most part, if you don't actually get yourself from a farm, it's a pretty sure bet it was raised and slaughtered in horrible conditions, no matter what label they slap on it. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it's tasty. Mmmmm.....chicken.
PhishHead
02-11-2008, 06:53 AM
I must say, Bazile, you're the first person I have ever heard say that they can't stand the taste of chicken.
And chicken, for the most part, if you don't actually get yourself from a farm, it's a pretty sure bet it was raised and slaughtered in horrible conditions, no matter what label they slap on it. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it's tasty. Mmmmm.....chicken.
Is chicken to you like bacon is to KHB?
DiabloSammich
02-11-2008, 06:54 AM
Is chicken to you like bacon is to KHB?
Nothing is to anybody like bacon is to that man.
Chip196
02-11-2008, 07:08 AM
I must say, Bazile, you're the first person I have ever heard say that they can't stand the taste of chicken.
And chicken, for the most part, if you don't actually get yourself from a farm, it's a pretty sure bet it was raised and slaughtered in horrible conditions, no matter what label they slap on it. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it's tasty. Mmmmm.....chicken.
The only label that i look for on Chicken is Pasture Chicken ... this means they're out in a pature, eating all the things they're supposed to. The taste is sompletely different and the eggs are wonderful.
RhinoinMN
02-11-2008, 07:12 AM
I'm drinking a glass of organic milk right now. It's fucking delicious.
If only I could get it from the backyard too.
DiabloSammich
02-11-2008, 07:20 AM
The only label that i look for on Chicken is Pasture Chicken ... this means they're out in a pature, eating all the things they're supposed to. The taste is sompletely different and the eggs are wonderful.
I have never even heard of that label. I'll have to check it out.
I'm lucky enough to live within a short drive of some pretty rural farm country, so we can usually get good farm products staight from the grower.
Bazile also hit on a good point about eating local food. There's a couple who actually went on a diet consisting of food that was grown or raised within a 100 mile radius of their house. Here's a link.
http://100milediet.org/category/about/
led37zep
02-11-2008, 08:39 AM
Bazile also hit on a good point about eating local food. There's a couple who actually went on a diet consisting of food that was grown or raised within a 100 mile radius of their house. Here's a link.
http://100milediet.org/category/about/
Its a great idea if you're really concerned about cutting down on your carbon footprint. Eating llocal food is great if its available. Some stores are even starting to have a "local" section in their produce dept.
Thebazile78
02-11-2008, 08:47 AM
I must say, Bazile, you're the first person I have ever heard say that they can't stand the taste of chicken.
Since it's a cheap, readily available source of protein, we had chicken often when I was growing up.
I didn't particularly care for it then and I like it even less now. And, since I'm now in charge of buying a lot of the food I eat, I don't buy chicken if I can help it. I've been experimenting with ways to prepare it that mask the taste enough for me to tolerate it, but this is mostly a concession to my hubby .... who will eat grilled chicken day-in-day-out with no ill effects. If I did that, I would either starve or go insane.
Tangentially, while my mom was expecting, one of the things that would trigger her morning sickness was the smell of cooking chicken. After learning that for a high school health class project, I've always felt that my dislike of chicken was, at least partially, justifiable.
Fezticle98
02-11-2008, 05:43 PM
I often have some Morningstar Farms veggie sausage along with my breakfast at work. I don't think it's organic, but people at work started asking me if I was a vegetarian. Then one day for lunch I had some Amy's Vegetarian Lasagna, which prompted more questions. For some reason, I felt the need to "defend" myself against accusations of vegetarianism.
"Oh no, I'm not a vegetarian. I probably eat too much meat."
ToddEVF
02-11-2008, 06:39 PM
I would probably buy organic food if the price was more comparable to non-organics.
thats my problem, as for some reason a lot of the crap they put in the good ole version have caused suffering to me. However give me a glass of organic milk and i'm fine.
Thebazile78
02-12-2008, 04:32 AM
I often have some Morningstar Farms veggie sausage along with my breakfast at work. I don't think it's organic, but people at work started asking me if I was a vegetarian. Then one day for lunch I had some Amy's Vegetarian Lasagna, which prompted more questions. For some reason, I felt the need to "defend" myself against accusations of vegetarianism.
"Oh no, I'm not a vegetarian. I probably eat too much meat."
Morningstar Farms' stuff is vegetarian. They have some things that are organic, but unless it's labelled "organic," it probably isn't.
I like their spicy black bean burgers and their Buffalo-style chick'n tenders.
I love Amy's Organic foods, but they can be expensive! The brand has both vegetarian/vegan products and organic products (for the most part the biggest difference is that the organic products use real cheese while the vegetarian/vegan products use soy cheese, which is hit-or-miss) ... it's not important to me that they're organic or vegan; I just like the taste.
You shouldn't feel a need to "defend" yourself from "accusations of vegetarianism" ... I think vegetarians get a bad rap. It's those vegans that you have to worry about!
The most clever retort I ever heard when someone asked if another person was a vegetarian was to answer "no, I'm a 'flexatarian'" ... I'd say that describes me, too. (I'll eat meat if I can get it, but I don't exactly go out of my way to get it! Unless it's steak. Then all bets are off.)
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