Ryan Adams Appreciation Thread

[Stankfoot]

Haven't listed to him much but currently obsessed with this version of "Magnolia Mountain":

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I wanna go to Magnolia Mountain
And lay my weary head down
Down on the rocks
Of the mountain my savior made
Steady my soul and ease my worry
Hold me when I rattle like a hummingbird hummin'
Tie me to the rocks of the mountain my savior made

Lie to me
Sing me a song
Sing me a song until the morning comes
If the morning come, will you lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
Til' I'm heavy like the rocks in the riverbed
That my savior made

I wanna be the bluebird singing
Singing to the roses in her yard
Roses in her yard her father grew for her
It's been raining like Tennessee honey
So long I got too heavy to fly
Ain't no bluebird ever gets too heavy to sing

Lie to me
Sing me a song
Sing me a song until the morning comes
And if the morning don't come, will you lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
Ti'l I'm heavy like the rocks in the riverbed
That my savior made
. . . please

We burn the cotton fields down in the valley
And ended up with nothing but scars
Scars became the lessons that we gave to our children after the war
There ain't nothing but the [truth/tunes] of Magnolia Mountain
Where nobody ever dies
Steady your soul and ease your worry
They got room

Lie to me like I lie to you
Hold me down until the morning comes
And if the morning don't come
Will you lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
Ti'l I'm heavy like the rocks in the riverbed
That my savior made
. . . please

[cupcakelove]

Does this mountain have cigarette trees?

[TheMojoPin]

Ryan Adams is the bee's knees.

[JerseyRich]

Would you be jealous of me if I told you that I was at a show just like that one at the Hiro Ballroom in NYC a couple weeks after.

Actually it was the record release show for Easy Tiger.

So many sick shows from that tour.

[Grendel_Kahn]

If you're looking for some good songs try the video for New York New York which was shot on Sept 10 2001. It is very moving. Also try Burning Photographs, So Alive, and Firecracker.

I really like him, but his output is just too much. There is no filter with him. 9 official cds in 7 years. There are countless bootlegs, and outtakes that he releases himself. All in all though a really good performer and a great songwriter.

[JerseyRich]

I really like him, but his output is just too much.

Why would you say you really like someone then tell us what you dislike about them?

I find this argument that he puts out too much work to be complete BS. If you are a record label, I can understand why you would hate it, but as a fan, it's all you could ask for!

He is prolific with his writing and he wants to share it with us. What is wrong with that? As a fan and a fellow musician, I couldn't be more appreciative to Ryan for sharing his musical thoughts with us.

And his shows are unbelievable. (If you are lucky enough to catch him in a good mood)

I've seen him play each time was different and each time I have such amazing memories.

Much is the same with each of his albums.

Long live Ryan Adams and the Cardinals.

[epo]

Why would you say you really like someone then tell us what you dislike about them?

I find this argument that he puts out too much work to be complete BS. If you are a record label, I can understand why you would hate it, but as a fan, it's all you could ask for!

He is prolific with his writing and he wants to share it with us. What is wrong with that? As a fan and a fellow musician, I couldn't be more appreciative to Ryan for sharing his musical thoughts with us.

And his shows are unbelievable. (If you are lucky enough to catch him in a good mood)

I've seen him play each time was different and each time I have such amazing memories.

Much is the same with each of his albums.

Long live Ryan Adams and the Cardinals.


While I can appreciate getting more from a very good artist, his output would be more welcomed...if it was of a higher quality.

There is nothing more aggrevating than listening to Jacksonville City Nights. Hell, if you combined Jacksonville, 29 & both Cold Roses albums....you might have one really good albums. As they stand now, I've got 4 mediocre-to-shitty CDs in my collection.

[TheMojoPin]

While I can appreciate getting more from a very good artist, his output would be more welcomed...if it was of a higher quality.

There is nothing more aggrevating than listening to Jacksonville City Nights. Hell, if you combined Jacksonville, 29 & both Cold Roses albums....you might have one really good albums. As they stand now, I've got 4 mediocre-to-shitty CDs in my collection.

Oh, hells no. JCN is awesome...I think all of the stuff he's done with the Cardinals has been fantastic. Hooking up with them as his band is the smartest thing he's done...his days with Whiskeytown show he's strongest with some kind of stability in his backing band (even if only the drummer and fiddle player/backing singer were with him the whole time with Whiskeytown).

How come you don't like JCN? I always like it when he keeps the twang around, and that's easily the country-iest of his albums.

I found 29 to be the worst by far of those albums. There's officially one song I like on it. Hell, I have no idea why I still own the damn thing. But the other two that year I love.

He announced that a box set was coming out some time this year with official releases of all of his "lost" abums like 48 Hours and The Suicide Handbook. Can't wait.

[JerseyRich]

While I can appreciate getting more from a very good artist, his output would be more welcomed...if it was of a higher quality.

There is nothing more aggrevating than listening to Jacksonville City Nights. Hell, if you combined Jacksonville, 29 & both Cold Roses albums....you might have one really good albums. As they stand now, I've got 4 mediocre-to-shitty CDs in my collection.

I can kind of appreciate that. He does tend to only do a couple of takes and say "That's it!" on his records...

But once they have really worked out the songs live, it brings them to life. I suggest seeing a show to see what the songs become and what they should truly sound like.

[JerseyRich]

He announced that a box set was coming out some time this year with official releases of all of his "lost" abums like 48 Hours and The Suicide Handbook. Can't wait.

I will believe that one when it's in my hot hands.

Ryan Adams Archive (http://www.ryanadamsarchive.com/index.php) for all your Ryan and the Cards latest news.

He posts on the board as WOLFHUNTER

[epo]

I can kind of appreciate that. He does tend to only do a couple of takes and say "That's it!" on his records...

But once they have really worked out the songs live, it brings them to life. I suggest seeing a show to see what the songs become and what they should truly sound like.

I saw him in September with the Cardinals. Honestly, the crowd was bored to tears.

[Jughead]

My boys are so in to him... I guess i should at least check his music out..This is only one of the problems of waiting so long to have children..But there are way more positives.....My oldest (21) worships him.....He follows him anywhere he plays here in the midwest ...I posted a picture of one of his greatest e-mail pictures he ever sent me in the gallery I think??...He was so excited he shuddered ... He went to the Chicago theater to see him last summer.(Nick) my son ran in to him in a cafe in Chicago..I will never forget his excitement when he called me.....Both of my sons have the rose bumper stickers...I need to be a better father and get more acquainted to him and his music.....Im going now to try and find the picture i posted But Im so lame at doing things like that......:sad: Ps can i send this thread to my son???Email....Old man jug

[JerseyRich]

My gift to you fellas.

Magnolia Mountain (http://richstillwell.com/audio/RyanAdams2007-09-14d1t02.mp3)
Ryan Adams and the Cardinals Charlottesville, VA 9-14-07
Full Electric Version

[Hottub]

Wow! Rich stepping it up big time.
Thank you.

[TheMojoPin]

I will believe that one when it's in my hot hands.

Ryan Adams Archive (http://www.ryanadamsarchive.com/index.php) for all your Ryan and the Cards latest news.

He posts on the board as WOLFHUNTER

Yeah, I know it's a stretch, but it was reported in a bunch of magazines, too, including EW. Here's hoping...

I really wish that the Whiskeytown reunion would happen that he and Caitlin always toss out there. Not get back together permanently...they talk about how every few years they'd like to just put out another album and then go back to their own things, then get do another album in a few years, and so on.

Man, I thought that Stranger's Almanac re-issue was coming out the last week of January. Tons of unreleased stuff gonna be on that.

As much as I love his solo stuff, he's never gonna top Whiskeytown for me. Driving down to see them in shit NC venues and throughout VA are some of my favorite memories with my VA friends.

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[TheMojoPin]

I saw him in September with the Cardinals. Honestly, the crowd was bored to tears.

He's definitely got the whole Replacements reputation going where his shows are either fantastic or some of the worst you'll ever see.

[JerseyRich]

My boys are so in to him... I guess i should at least check his music out..This is only one of the problems of waiting so long to have children..But there are way more positives.....My oldest (21) worships him.....He follows him anywhere he plays here in the midwest ...I posted a picture of one of his greatest e-mail pictures he ever sent me in the gallery I think??...He was so excited he shuddered ... He went to the Chicago theater to see him last summer.(Nick) my son ran in to him in a cafe in Chicago..I will never forget his excitement when he called me.....Both of my sons have the rose bumper stickers...I need to be a better father and get more acquainted to him and his music.....Im going now to try and find the picture i posted But Im so lame at doing things like that......:sad: Ps can i send this thread to my son???Email....Old man jug

http://www.ronfez.net/gallery//watermark.php?file=3161&size=1

Which one is your son?

[epo]

He's definitely got the whole Replacements reputation going where his shows are either fantastic or some of the worst you'll ever see.

And ironically enough, two of my favorite artists are Paul Westerberg & Ryan Adams. I love the talented trainwrecks!

[Jughead]

http://www.ronfez.net/gallery//watermark.php?file=3161&size=1

Which one is your son?

Thanks Rich!!! you rule white shirt..Clark Kent glasses....Thank you Budddyyyyyyyyyyy That was so cool..jug Ps i did figure out how to mail thread and i did.....

[Stankfoot]

My gift to you fellas.

Magnolia Mountain (http://richstillwell.com/audio/RyanAdams2007-09-14d1t02.mp3)
Ryan Adams and the Cardinals Charlottesville, VA 9-14-07
Full Electric Version

Nice version! I see they have 270 shows in the Internet Live Music Archive. Can you recommend a good electric show and a good acoustic show?

[Jughead]

I wonder if Mojo knows where this cafe is......And did Ryan go there because of the neon Rose in the window????

[TheMojoPin]

I wonder if Mojo knows where this cafe is......And did Ryan go there because of the neon Rose in the window????

If I had to guess, I think it's between Quincy and LaSalle in the Loop.

[marky2bucks]

I saw him in college in a bar the size of my living room.

I love everything off of heartbreaker. He does have no filter, though. He releases everything.

[Grendel_Kahn]

Why would you say you really like someone then tell us what you dislike about them?

I find this argument that he puts out too much work to be complete BS. If you are a record label, I can understand why you would hate it, but as a fan, it's all you could ask for!

He is prolific with his writing and he wants to share it with us. What is wrong with that? As a fan and a fellow musician, I couldn't be more appreciative to Ryan for sharing his musical thoughts with us.

And his shows are unbelievable. (If you are lucky enough to catch him in a good mood)

I've seen him play each time was different and each time I have such amazing memories.

Much is the same with each of his albums.

Long live Ryan Adams and the Cardinals.


And you would be wrong. Ryan Adams has a wealth of talent, and he knows it. But the problem with people like that is that they do not believe in an editor of some sort. Everything that comes forth from their head is genius. That's just not true. Even Dylan had some clunkers.
I always use SANDANISTA by The Clash. 3 albums wherein you had maybe 1 album side worth of decent material. More is better? Not always. More QUALITY? Absofuckinglutely.

[PapaBear]

If you're looking for some good songs try the video for New York New York which was shot on Sept 10 2001. It is very moving. Also try Burning Photographs, So Alive, and Firecracker.

I really like him, but his output is just too much. There is no filter with him. 9 official cds in 7 years. There are countless bootlegs, and outtakes that he releases himself. All in all though a really good performer and a great songwriter.
I'd never listened to him before this thread. I like it! And you're right about the New York New York video being moving. One correction, though. According to the video, it was shot on the 7th. Still...

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[Stankfoot]

Ryan does "Wharf Rat" with Phil Lesh


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I think any band can be improved with Pedal Steel !

[TheMojoPin]

[SIZE="2"][B]I think any band can be improved with Pedal Steel !

QFMFT.

It dirves me nuts when people automatically turn off at the sound of it and start raning like it's a Garth Brooks' song or some shit.

[JerseyRich]

QFMFT.

It dirves me nuts when people automatically turn off at the sound of it and start raning like it's a Garth Brooks' song or some shit.

Check out Jon Graboff's Website(Pedal Steel) (http://www.graboff.com/index.htm)

He is the shit.

Plus he plays a mean guitar on Rescue Blues when they do it live.

[JerseyRich]

http://www.graboff.com/images/IMG_4369.jpg

[JohnWC]

Nice version! I see they have 270 shows in the Internet Live Music Archive. Can you recommend a good electric show and a good acoustic show?

Hey... I was just gonna post a link to this acoustic show before I even saw your post. I really enjoyed it. You can download it or stream it. I'm a big fan.

Ryan Adams Live at Ulster Performing Arts Center on 2007-05-16 (May 16, 2007)
(http://www.archive.org/details/radams2007-05-16.sbd.flac)
Also this-
Ryan Adams Live at Stubb's on 2005-06-16 (Phil Lesh joins him for a couple songs on here) (http://www.archive.org/details/ryanadams2005-6-16.dsbd.flacf)

[TheMojoPin]

Slide guitar and pedal steel are dreamy.

[Hottub]

Miss Allman Brothers hating Mojo.

[Jughead]

Fire on the mountain lightning in the air.... Gold in them hills and its waiting for me there......Steel baby!!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Don't miss anti-country 'Tub.

[Stankfoot]

Slide guitar and pedal steel are dreamy.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/stankfoot/tonysinclair.jpg

.... always in moderation

[weekapaugjz]

The best show I have ever seen was ryan adams at the roseland ballroom a few years back. I was blown away. I also saw him in buffalo during the cold roses tour with the cardinals. He is easily in my top five favorite musicians of all time. And thank you stankfoot for putting magnolia mountain in my head. I'm gonna be singing it all afternoon. Now I'm gonna have to go dig out cold roses and give it a listen.

[Furtherman]

The best show I have ever seen was ryan adams at the roseland ballroom a few years back. .

I was at that show too. Fantastic. I've seen him a bunch of times and really enjoy his shows.

He is, however, in person, a whiny bitch.

[Stankfoot]

I
He is, however, in person, a whiny bitch.

RYAN ADAMS responds to critic:

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personally I love people who are this driven.....

[El Mudo]

Yeah, I know it's a stretch, but it was reported in a bunch of magazines, too, including EW. Here's hoping...

I really wish that the Whiskeytown reunion would happen that he and Caitlin always toss out there. Not get back together permanently...they talk about how every few years they'd like to just put out another album and then go back to their own things, then get do another album in a few years, and so on.


I find that the stuff Caitlin does with Thad Cockrell sounds pretty much like whiskeytown...Cockrell sounds almost exactly like adams at times


That being said, love Adams....great great stuff. Loved the duet with Norah Jones on JCN, "Dear John". I would love to see those two do a whole country album together of just twangy stuff...but light on the sad country songs

[TheMojoPin]

I find that the stuff Caitlin does with Thad Cockrell sounds pretty much like whiskeytown...Cockrell sounds almost exactly like adams at times


That being said, love Adams....great great stuff. Loved the duet with Norah Jones on JCN, "Dear John". I would love to see those two do a whole country album together of just twangy stuff...but light on the sad country songs

I really like that song, but apparently a ton of his fans hate it like as one of the worst things he's ever done. Not really sure why...

Adams seems like he'd be a complete chore to deal with as a person, much like Jeff Tweedy.

[PhishHead]

Adams seems like he'd be a complete chore to deal with as a person, much like Jeff Tweedy.

weren't we just talking about how they are probably both pricks?

[TheMojoPin]

weren't we just talking about how they are probably both pricks?

Damn right. Alt.country frontmen tend to be assholes.

[Stankfoot]

Now I'm hooked on "Everybody Knows" ...

Album Version (embedding prohibited)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVVB2Xq65xQ&feature=related


On Letterman:

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you an I together
but only one of us in love
and everybody knows.....

[hit11man]

i really like easy tiger, and like gold. whats the next i should look into? heartbreaker, or something else?

[JerseyRich]

i really like easy tiger, and like gold. whats the next i should look into? heartbreaker, or something else?

Heartbreaker...
Cold Roses...
Love is Hell...


Do em all.

[hit11man]

appreciate it

[TheMojoPin]

Personally, I'd reccomend the first two albums Rich mentioned, then go pick up the albums by his old band Whiskeytown, then come back to Jacksonville City Nights, Demolition and Gold and Love Is Hell. I'd like to pretend most of Rock 'n' Roll and 29 never happened.

[WhistlePig]

And he's got great taste, doesn't he Hottub?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/WhistlePig/15635778-15635781-slarge.jpg

[barjockey]

I beginning to really get into ryans work after seeing him with Phil last yr. I think it was on his b'day he came out and jammed wth P&F:clap:

[bossdjbware]

I made the trip up to NYC just to see Ryan & The Cardinals do an opening set for Willie Nelson a few years ago at the Beacon. Fantastic. I had hoped he would join Willie for a song or set but no luck. It was around the time they were working together on Willie's album that Ryan produced and The Cardinals backed. This was my only show.

Ryan is my musical hero(cue Mariah Carey). Just an incredible songwriter. His music as a whole blurs the line between genres.

Does anyone know of any existing Patty Duke Syndrome material? I'm curious as to what kind of sound it was.

and I love 29.

[TheMojoPin]

Fuckfuckfuckfuck.

I see this thread bumped and I'm hoping more news was released about the box set.

[bossdjbware]

Fuckfuckfuckfuck.

I see this thread bumped and I'm hoping more news was released about the box set.

Sorry budday.

According to <a href="http://rawkblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/news-ryan-adams-box-set-mostly-fantasy.html">this</a> it doesn't look good.

[JerseyRich]

If you're up for some crazy reading...

Check out his blog.

DRAdams Films Inc. (http://www.dradamsfilms.com/)

[TheMojoPin]

Sorry budday.

According to <a href="http://rawkblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/news-ryan-adams-box-set-mostly-fantasy.html">this</a> it doesn't look good.

Nuts.

It doesn't make much sense...I would assume most to all of the unreleased stuff would be on the same label. Adams tends to talk out of his ass, but news of the set showed up in a bunch of major publications. I would assume that mean it was much further along officially than just Ryan shooting his mouth off, so hopefully it'll eventually be worked out. I have most of the stuff would be on it, but it would be nice to get versions of those songs that are final mixed and mastered.

[epo]

If you're up for some crazy reading...

Check out his blog.

DRAdams Films Inc. (http://www.dradamsfilms.com/)

Seriously, I'm starting to think that despite Whiskeytown, Heartbreaker & Gold....that Ryan might be slightly retarded.

[JerseyRich]

Seriously, I'm starting to think that despite Whiskeytown, Heartbreaker & Gold....that Ryan might be slightly retarded.

He will read this and totally avoid Wisconsin for any future shows. You blew it!

[JerseyRich]

Ryan's Blog Speaks:


About me

my name is Foggy and i help Ryan talk about the hard stuff and also the funny stuff, and we don't do much in-between but it's always real.

This place is all about change.

A mirror.

To a life that is all about change.

Because change is life.

And life is hard but rewarding if you have the balls to roll with it and take the knocks.

There is light if you look for it.

And there is always hope.

And you will find a little of all that here.

And Pizza.

[bossdjbware]

Nuts.

It doesn't make much sense...I would assume most to all of the unreleased stuff would be on the same label. Adams tends to talk out of his ass, but news of the set showed up in a bunch of major publications. I would assume that mean it was much further along officially than just Ryan shooting his mouth off, so hopefully it'll eventually be worked out. I have most of the stuff would be on it, but it would be nice to get versions of those songs that are final mixed and mastered.

Since some of suicide handbook ended up on Gold it could be a label issue. Considering that was his first Lost Highway release and Heartbreaker was on Bloodshot. I assume he recorded most of it in between records. I could be wrong.

At least we'll get one song from this ESOPUS CD.

[TheMojoPin]

But how much was recorded for Bloodshot? It sounds like after Heartbreaker he moved to Lost Highway and everything since has been recorded for them. I assumed that was the deal with Suicide Handbook, that it was going to originally be his first Lost Highway record.

[bossdjbware]

But how much was recorded for Bloodshot? It sounds like after Heartbreaker he moved to Lost Highway and everything since has been recorded for them. I assumed that was the deal with Suicide Handbook, that it was going to originally be his first Lost Highway record.

That, I do not know. It was purely speculation. It could very well of been part of the Lost Highway deal.

[ImNotGvac]

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[TheMojoPin]

*Barf*

How the mighty have fallen.

[mikeyboy]

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I zoned out on what he was saying about halfway through what seemed to be a slam against his online critics and became fascinated with trying to read the expressions and fidgeting of Mary Louise Parker.

[ImNotGvac]

Mary Louise Parker:

"I never noticed how much hair I have on my arms."

"This bracelet is a little loose."

"Christ, could you have picked a longer poem?"