Would You Kill?

[ATMfromChico]

Being the father of two beautiful girls, I find myself always feeling exceedingly protective of them. And late at night I worry about the predators and monsters in this world that would harm those I love if given the chance. So I found myself wondering what I would do to someone who managed harm one of my children.

So here are the rules. You have two or more children and a solid marriage (or relationship) with the mother or father. A predator takes one of your children and does unspeakable things to them before killing them. You identify your child at the morgue and see exactly what was done to your loved one before they were brutally murdered. The killer goes through a trial, but due to horrible evidence gathering there is a mis-trial. As the trial ends and the killer walks free he makes a point to laugh in your face and flip you off.

Now you have a choice.

The first choice is that you have the oportunity to find them, hold them captive and do anything you want to them for any length of time. For the sake of arguement you have a cabin hidden far away in the mountains that you can keep them captive and them do anything imaginable to them. But the consequences of this happening are this. No matter the severity of what you do to them they will die. If you bitch slap them for an hour or two, they will die from a heart attack. If you torture them and cut them into pieces, they will die. If you call them silly names and scare them, they will die. And you will be caught and go to prison for the remainder of your life. There will be no parole. No death penalty and no contact with anyone in your previous life. But you can exact your revenge in any way you see fit.

The second choice is that you can do nothing. The killer will walk free for the remainder of his life. Twenty, thirty, maybe forty years more of possible killings and bringing harm to the innocent. Nothing, other than the death of old age will bring a final end to this monster.

So what do you do? Kill the monster but lose the rest of your family? The surviving child, or children will never know their mother or father from then on. You will lose your freedom and your wife/husband, or partner. The killer will be dead, but you lose the rest of your life in the process.

Or you let the killer walk, have his own life with the chance he will bring more harm to innocents, but you will still have your family, your life, and your love.

What would you do.

And yes, if you have someone else bring harm to the killer it still lands you in prison for the rest of your life as indicated above. There are no loopholes.

[Fallon]

He'd be dead within a week and would never be found.

[ATMfromChico]

He'd be dead within a week and would never be found.

Remember, your other living child would no longer have a father. You would be in prison for the rest of your life and not be allowed to be in their life.

[TheMojoPin]

And late at night I worry about the predators and monsters in this world that would harm those I love if given the chance.

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[King Hippos Bandaid]

Id try to commit a crime without getting caught

If i got caught then I would claim self defense and try to have the jury acquit me based on what the animal did

[Fallon]

Remember, your other living child would no longer have a father. You would be in prison for the rest of your life and not be allowed to be in their life.

F that. No body, no evidence.

[ATMfromChico]

Id try to commit a crime without getting caught

If i got caught then I would claim self defense and try to have the jury acquit me based on what the animal did

That's the thing. There are no loopholes in his scenario. Any harm you bring to the predator sends you to prison for life. There are no other options.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

That's the thing. There are no loopholes in his scenario. Any harm you bring to the predator sends you to prison for life. There are no other options.

but this is America, they feel sorry for fathers of killed and sexually abused kids

no life in prison would ensue

[ATMfromChico]

but this is America, they feel sorry for fathers of killed and sexually abused kids

no life in prison would ensue

I understand that, but this is an ethics question. This is a case of exchange. Are you willing to sacrifice being a parent and spouse to your remaining child/children and wife/husband in order to have revenge as well as stopping the killer that did this?

[ChrisTheCop]

Given your choices, with no loopholes...

I'd have to let him go, and protect the rest of my family.

For me, its a no brainer. If there was a possibility of not losing my entire family, then I would opt for killing him or having him killed, even though there was a CHANCE of being caught. But your scenario provides only that I WILL be caught, and convicted, and lose my family. Cant do it.

[Bunny™]

I wasn't even past the first paragraph when I had my answer.
My family could get by without me no problem. I may be spending the rest of my life at Rikers, but at least they'll be able to sleep at night without fear.
Letting the fucker walk free with no justice? Fuck that. I'll be Mickey Martyr and spend my last remaining days as a free man disassembling the piece of shit extremity by extremity....starting with the small ones....but not too much at once. Don't want him to slip into shock and miss all the fun.

It's the only way I'd be able to sleep at night.

[bigredd]

In a totally different scenario I'd kill. My grandfather was murdered in his own home and I'd kill the person that was responsible without thinking twice. I was six when it happened and I'll never forget the pain it caused my mom, uncle and grandmother.

[Hottub]

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I'd call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggas, who'll go to work on the homes. With a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You'll hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? But I wouldn't be through with them by a damn sight. I'd get medieval on their asses.


Plus I have experience with dealing with clean up and removal. References available on request.

[Bossanova]

I would him and give him the $100,000 I promised him

[bigredd]

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I'd call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggas, who'll go to work on the homes. With a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You'll hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? But I wouldn't be through with them by a damn sight. I'd get medieval on their asses.


Plus I have experience with dealing with clean up and removal. References available on request.

Nice work! I managed to catch the beginning of that the other night and drag it onto our new DVR. We had to upgrade to get more HD blah blah blah...the point being I now have it on demand. YES!

[spoon]

It's a tough call I hope never need to find out the answer. First off, I would feel even more compelled to take this asshole out bc he's a risk to everyone and you'd know it. I'd feel that I wasn't even just doing it for myself and family, but those victims that may be to come and theirs. Also, as much as ud like to make this a done and done scenario, it simply never is in the US. If you didn't hold the guy, didn't go overboard with crazy killing techniques and torture you would have a much better shot at getting a decent sentence by jury. For me it couldn't be a hold up and torture, simply bc it's not the point, I would end this dirtbag with a bullet to the head and try to enact the Fallon principle as well. I'm not one to kill for most reasons, but this and the future ills he may cause give it some meaning and need.

[earthbrown]

there is NO doubt in my mind, that I would murder anyone who harmed my family. I would obviously have a fear of jail, I think, might not if it happened....I have always thought that I would wait and do it when it was least expected, asI would want personal time with the offender.


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[DESMO22]

That scenario that you gave is just to head fuck all of us. You damm well know that he`s a dead fuck! If you want someone to die or never to be found again; it is as good as done. To make a scenario like that just raises everybody`s blood pressure ;and I personally think your a sick fuck for even writing it. Just my opinion of course.

[ChrisTheCop]

That scenario that you gave is just to head fuck all of us. You damm well know that he`s a dead fuck! If you want someone to die or never to be found again; it is as good as done. To make a scenario like that just raises everybody`s blood pressure ;and I personally think your a sick fuck for even writing it. Just my opinion of course.

Welcome to the board, slugger!:huh:

[cougarjake13]

That's the thing. There are no loopholes in his scenario. Any harm you bring to the predator sends you to prison for life. There are no other options.

but if he got off on bullshit and technicalities why wouldnt we ???


and once they hear about what the guy did to our kid no juror in that box wouldnt sympathize with us and then convict us

[ATMfromChico]

but if he got off on bullshit and technicalities why wouldnt we ???


and once they hear about what the guy did to our kid no juror in that box wouldnt sympathize with us and then convict us

I know the scenario in this sucks, it is supposed to. It is an ethics question of what do you value higher. Revenge for what was done to your child, mixed to the chance to stop the killer from doing this to other children or your remaining child/children and their oportunity to have a father in their lives after their sibling had already been taken from them. There is no happy answer in this. Sure, if the question was about what we would do do the predator if we didn't get caught, we could have a lot of fun coming up with very original ways of torture and killing him. But this is not that. This is about making a choice.

[ralphbxny]

Jails not so bad if your protecting your family and the family jewels!

[Furtherman]

Playing strictly by the rules that you gave (and that most people can't seem to understand), the logical choice is to let him go.

Your family needs you and you need your family. To break that apart would be double the tragedy.

[Jujubees2]

I agree with Furtherman. Killing the person would not bring your child back and cause your family to lose yet another member.

I would spend my time trying to correct the system that allowed the killer to go free.

[tonedef04]

watch Death Sentence and you've got my answer

[Ritalin]

I don't understand people who waste their time hypothetically wondering who they would kill.

What's your point?

[boston beatdown]

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Bonasera... Bonasera... What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully? Had you come to me in friendship, then this scum that ruined your daughter would be suffering this very day. And that by chance if an honest man such as yourself should make enemies, then they would become my enemies. And then they would fear you.